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pati fed to shy every fight
Lol
they probably have more faith in the damage output of the double flex comp
Brig>
yeah but they got 2-0 on control
lost to brig zen
shu nano pati at the end was kinda troll to instead of keeping skewed alive
thats not skewed's fault
he was getting hammered on brig
nano overclock is not troll
i think its more than alphayi got too much space
he didnt
kevster needs to stop that man
he nano way way after overclock
Widow looks so pissed in that pose
agreed
didnt check alphayi once
kevster is playing trade backline with alphayi instead of fighting each other
alphayi just got free engages with bernar
kevster is rarely getting the backline tho
they always win that trade
cause no offense to reiner
Bernar played great
but bernar peel > reiner peel
Glad's backline was perma dead and pati as well
kevster doesnt know how to do math
They should’ve played brig zen
reiner the one getting diffed the most tho
how? he has that giant forhead to do it in
bruh are u okay
Like bap zen against full dove
Is so troll
this isnt the turn it up song i know
who was the motherfucker that said glads was the only team with proper engages?
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alphayi goated
spark just showed the gladiators a master class in fucking supports
reiner cant compete with bernar lmao
he was doing fine on reiner ball against bernar ball lmao if you wanna talk about not competing look at kevster and eccspecially pati lol
coluge did it better imo
so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that glads were doing a bit of trolling
where are his eyebrows
60%
it was like 2 fights
I still haven't seen glads int nano for no fucking reason
the hog was fine
it's two fights on koth lmfao
Against Spark ???
let them stall till 52% off 1 fight
the hog was whatever
they didnt int it at the end but it was a bad nano
midtown time
they were just getting hard diffed on engages
why would glads pick new york into spark
I'll go over the actual match later
kev just didnt stop alphayi ever
this is so troll
Idk
This map is cursed
they just traded backlines but spark wins that with mega control
+$500
wtf is glads doing???
I've seen teams get like 80% pt control just off being lucky so
not the case anymore but in the kc the rule was worse team wins midtown
52% if they also give up ult economy is pretty troll
It still has the most weirdness stuff happen
what is happening man
this is not looking good
i have not seen a single team not use that rotate
literally every time I watch this fucking map it's a fucking choke battle
and I don't understand how
3-2 for shy vs patiphan on sojourn
yeesh
WHAT
that hero is not real
clutch
wait shu didn't even nano?
simply the goat
what a fuckn gamer
lol?
Wow
ok avrl it's not milliseconds cmon
holy
milliseconds lmfao
finally
LOL
wasnt much he could do
pati fucking ROLLED that window
Alphayi is the fucking goat
glads 5 ults
Man imagine if superich wasn’t washed
if superich was in form
Spark would be the best team in the world easily
shy choked
pati sure needs to get his sorjourn play buffed up
shy inferior player sadly
London Spitfire org
the c8
coulda had a c8
kevster always has to say it
harmony orb tracer fights are so funny
3-3 in the sojourn mirror
you've seen nothing yet. go watch tracer fights when brig packs gave armor
yea if shy/alphayi aren't killing 3 a fight spark just loses
looks like glads finally woke up
Shy can’t beat the man who made him
also
finding maps of midtown is annoying as shit
but first match I find seoul bubbles choke to jump everyone on that rotate
whereas glads just walked
most of spark's success from the first map was from bernar
they have not been able to engage that much this defense round
4-3
lmao
Bernar is great
lmao
rip
that miss was pretty funny
I don't know if I agree with the nanos they're throwing onto pati
Yeah it is
I feel like it's much easier to shut down than a nano monkey or nano tracer
hadi just had shit supports
with a bad team
hadi was in contention for worst MT last season
he was close
he's lucky silver3 managed a contract
Changsik
MT with a bad team makes you look bad
All way worse
I said in contention
He wasn’t close to them
shredlock on 300 ping
Not definitive worst
daan
Except it wasn’t a contest
stand1
Daan too
when you think of good MTs you think of fate fearless super smurf etc
who all have had
amazing OTs and backlines
top level
Stand1 is da fucking goat
This leads into the Main Tank Paradox
can we not speak of that
Is there any actual good main tank or are they all propped up by their team no matter what
i want owl
the main tank paradox falls apart when you look at primal mechanics
soj moment
Only for few players
no fucking way they pull this back
skewed is the savior
you can distinctly see that certain main tanks are way better
holy fucking shit
at the juggling than others
fearless had this one juggle from earlier this season
that made me blush a little
the anubis one?
too bad fuel is shit
this season
o
it was oasis
and somehow cannot combo with fearless monkey
idk if they've gotten better as of late
this season
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but wen they switched over to the zarya they were fucking dumb
bernar moment
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Bernar?
booped shu out of mines
if he booped skewed anywhere except into shu he gets that kill
wublade
and then the fuckign mines
Spark rolling
that slow is too big tho
yeah
3-1 in favor of spark?
winnable for spark
chokable for spark
Isn't alphayi a rookie as well?
how does shy die
ok nvm he's just at 40% again
mine backlines /nano overclock win point
you say that
but skewed is coming up on trance and reiner has ult
and kevster is a demon
nano sojourn too early, sad
idk why he wouldn't slow orb that
Anybody else kind of underwhelmed and sad about how Seoul is performing this season?
pati gaps his inferior counterpart
you get used to it after a while
nice
yea spark lives and dies by their dps carrying or not
skewed trances to keep himself alive and glads just trade it
Glads can actually engage with reiner and win off tank dives
fr
@devout path midphayi
flame knight that's what spark did map 1
(pati is in the lead in their duel)
Ig but their line up was so great and they getting fucked
they just took turns on who actually dives
betayi cannot do enough
Ans is in
3-1 in favor of spark I'm calling it
(an fdps player)
shock v glads map 5 last season
i said that
who throws harder
zzz
shy rolls ans any day
that was 1 map for spark
I for the life of me cannot understand why glads are coming out on oasis on bap/brig
tbf yes
shock fan here
shock is not sweeping shanghai
Koth is also a mickey mouse mode that lets worse teams win
the first sensible shock fan
where did glads headcoach come from? Oo
yeah that's why shock won 2020
Agree
Mickey mouse mode in the sense that individual pop off and skirmished are more prevalent and meaningful
this bap pick is genuinely boggling my mind
Do the Hangzou spark have a connection with trans rights? I've seen a lot of talk about it in the youtube chat
So teams with mid tanks and supports but top tier dps have a better chance vs stuff like escort
yes
what's the connection?
That's why shock was very good in 2020 on it, striker/ans diffed all the time there
trans flag colors
glads just trolled this map
🏳️⚧️
ah lmao just didn't think about it
besides the obvious
I only saw the pink lol
genuinely why would you be on bap over lucio or moira
ty
and that's not to mention not having a fucking zen or ana
moira fucking sucks
Damn
better than the bap for dives
So what I’m hearing is spark 3-2
at least your support is actually unkillable
Crazyyyyy
Mayhem only lost because they went moira on Lijiang
I'm not saying the moira is good but I'd rather see that then a bap on this map with this comp
worse than moira lucio
map 1
I think on 2nd point they did
skewed was on zen the whole time
Is space even in hawaii lmao
and shu doesn't play brig
i think he played 1 map
Dude has played 2 maps he’s probably retiring at this rate
which map was htis
Shock glads atl
of circuit
Spark winning
Push and koth
Atl are a little team
In this tournament
the window doesn't even give you that much either
Imo
Objectively false
Dorito
either there's plenty of cover or your back's to the wall and you can just get slow orbed
not complaining i like skewed but where funnyastro go?
genuinely why the fuck did they go bap here
Even with the
Bap is an awful character
Dynasty
Double fs is op
Dynasty are a big team when not splitting playtime imo
Idc who they bench just bench one of them
Stalker carried
Stop coping
He did
I do not think
that dynasties issues stem from splitting playtime
just going to be honest
some of the things I have seen from that team are fucking ugly
They had odd composition choices
LOL bye guxue
How
winton jump winton zap winton ult winton nap
interesting genji pick
I'm not quite sure why they're playing it over the tracer
genji is played alot point 1 dorado
he was right there, after map 2 was finished, talking to skewed
nanoblade soon
there's a lot of open space to cross to get on top of the backline
and you can't play the flanks as well
almost a wublade
WHO
irony had the read
Superrich tried his hardest lol
Wow
i mean why he never play anymore?
dude this game is fucking shit
reiner is literally showing his fucking thumb to try and dodge sleep and it doesn't matter
dno bruv .. same with space. he also plays very rarely nowadays
space makes since cuz of the yk
space plays if it's a sig map
thank god
This is the most heartbreaking full hold lmao
not a sig map atm
respectfully
Or not?
ans has made this a 4v5
has space played since the allegations
Or not?
yk?
oh shit
yea
I figured he was in permabench mode
those allegations have turned out to be of no susbtance
why r ppl still talking abt it
pretty sure the conclusion was that the girl lied about her age to space
a couple times
People like drama
its so stupid
I didn't hear about that
so
now that was nice, kevster
glads lose that?
what
I mean it’s scummy but since nothing happens it doesn’t matter unless things do come up
are they doing
ans more like ass
shy 4k
its not scummy to like drama
its pathetic
shy just diffing ans
lip > shy
I completely missed all the updates on the space situation so
Why is this boy named shy with how courageous he is
LaG stuck in infinite 4v5 cuz of ans
and I haven't seen him play since
shy is the number 2 hitscan in the world
how is ans still alive
I mean the thing itself is
yeah I really don't know
spark with the legendary throw
idk what ans should do here tbh
How did spark lose this
spark keep choking these last fights
no matter what he picks he just gets diffed by shy
ans go sojourn
yes i would say it is pretty scummy that someone would put false allegations to threaten someone's career
Ans probably has not play sojourn
they're in the most winnable positions
Lol
Like he has 0 time on her in scrims
just bait the dive by existing
ans sojourn just gets less value though
oof
kevin
Was it actually false
what situation? 😮
ok ans
the poster never brought it up ever again
i think glads just need to hope shy doesn't keep fucking as hard as he does
ooh
Then they found nothing ig or Nei proof
ans does something???
honestly glads should be happy with even making it this far
do spark throw another hold
glads fucked
glads overextended rip
hard staggered
lmao
Ooh
shy says no
there were allegations of sexual misconduct made against space, apparently there were updates that undermine them
he uhh got coach gunned
by shy who was on ashe
who had coach gun to knock him back
shy was on sojourn
seoul dynasty fan hugo?
ans is auto 4v5
ohboi
hes cute but bad
yea ans been pretty bad this season
i made excuses for him last year but he just aint what he was
I wouldn't say bad
nasty slow
For the most part when he came in he was doing fine
yea like he's not like guriyo bad
Nothing special but definitely not bad
tbh glads need a new hs
wouldn't go that far
how did guxue kill the backline
ans needs be replaced imo
glads are still the most consistent team so they definitely dont "need" to replace anyone at all
eh
man shock is gonna have to deal with this too
blade moment
Wublade x3
blade moment
I feel like this is one of the few points where genji is justified over tracer
ok
soj moment
Shy alphayi might be the best dps line in the league
what is the most you can pocket a blade?
Rn
yea i really think teams should not try to play hitscans that cant play sojourn, like it just doesn't work most of the time
I wonder if teams are running more doom because there's no bubble to farm soj rail off
like
shy just gets 34% railgun for free because reiner left a bubble on the map
you can farm railgun off of doom too tbh
not as easily as off bubble
since if you break los on doom they can't farm rail anymore
sheesh
but a bubble can still be farmed
guxue gaming
they just have to re-group, nano overclock and they win
they just have to group....
the shy show
ans not running the soj is also worrying me
holy fuck that was risky from skewed
esp since there's so many good slow fields you can hit on this point
i honestly was surprised shy missed that headshot lol
ans would get fucking railed on sojourn
gg rally up
thats how you know a hitscan is popping tf off, when you're surprised when they miss lol
because patiphan is a better sojourn than ans
glads win 3-2?
are both teams playing overseas ?? i mean, with ~90ms ping or are both in the U.S ?
ans sojourn is probably shit
they still have nano and are coming up on trance
copiumsing
nano skewed lmfao
overseas
i'd rather ans get the occasional kill on widow or ashe than get zero kills on sojourn
surely spark are not that troll
maybe glads aren't that used to 90ms .. heh
piledrive 💔
yea they should just keep patiphan in
Wow
it appears as though AVRL has forgotten that LIP exists
ans is auto 4v5
idk
you're suffering hard from recency bias
i think voidz is a shock fan
ans has also had some good games
I don't think that the glads staff had ans practice the soj at all
so when they needed ans to switch off the widow they didn't have a lot of options
Subbing in ans is impossible
EW
Idk why they did it
i would be top 500
honestly very true
i feel like
I mean
ans gets one of the biggest buffs from it
lip or shy in ow2 na ranked
most of ans' hype came from how he looked in ow1 ranked
????
shy imo
Ur dumb if you think that
im joking
you are telling me that ans has been practicing OW1 this entire time
it's more like if they want to practice kev/pati they can't scrim with ans
so ans gets fucked over with playtime
how tf yall think im not joking????
He plays hard hitscan
so ans doesn't have time to learn soj like he would if ranked was in ow2
yes
That’s it
hard hitscan only
Your are brain dead if you Believed him
Ans isn’t the sojourn player
Reiner
true
i think every hitscan player should learn sojourn, it's like a widow player not being able to play ashe or cass, if the comp isn't right then you'll just get fucked if not on sojourn
so if you want to run widow/tracer on some points and soj/tracer on others
who do you run
e.g. widow is fine on dorado A
Play pati
but on dorado C you really want the soj
Pati can play widow
there are not many maps that are perma widow maps
like
widow is one of those characters where you need a fallback for the other points
if you want to play at all
ans historically has never been a flex player
idk why you would expect him to play more than his role
there is no perma-widow role
He plays hard hitscan
he's a hitscan he should be able to play all the other hitscans
He does
sojourn is not histcan
He shouldn’t have been subbed in anyways
i think every hitscan should learn sojourn
does ans play cass
Sojourn is as hitscan as tracer is
Yes
ideally every player should learn every hero
but some players are less flexible than others
like ans
the railgun is literally just widow's sniper though???
has he played him in ow2 yet
just not scoped in
The left click isn’t
ans can play cass but he sucks rn
No cuz cass hasn’t been meta yet
aight
Ans plays hard hitscan and an ok sombra
ok? widow's primary fire is just weaker tracer bullets? is widow not hitscan since one part of her kit is not hard hitscan????
didn't think so
??
ow2 needs you to switch your dps for the point much more than ow1 does
souj primary is a projectile
yea no shit
the important part is the rail
^^^
which is hitscan
that's the thing that'll just win you fights for no reason
assuming he can actually learn how to place a slow
ok but dont u need to be good with projs to get charge
funnyastro😍
funnyastro no cam?
he forgot to fly?
Lucio
still in america?
but you do need to be good at hitscan style weapons to hit the rails
yea so u need to be good with both
alright
and the rail is a lot more important
current record for sojourn mirror is 4-5 shy-pati
nah, he's there
There’s fastro
damn glads are ass
lets keep it going
Spark won
Bro
yea wtf
zen lucio
He has
To get sone play time
No scrim time to do so

unbelievably based
And he cannot play ranked
Tru
What is he supposed to do lmfao
based
based
is bernar good
Yes
boostio
unfathomably based on personal belief
aight
skewed mental destroyed
im not saying it's ans fault, im just saying optimally ans should know how to play sojourn, but i get why it's not possible
goat player fastro takes the reins to carry
that's not the argument at all
I don’t like lucio
the zen/ana is very difficult to keep alive
unironically
lucio means faster rotates and tankier backline
Yeah?
shy die spark fans cry
alphayi is a cracked individual
it is not that simple
idk i trust glads decision making a lot so imma just trust the lucio
it's not like lucio/ana is troll
jeezus kevster
like
W kevster
the lucio does good things
it's not as much util as ana/zen but if your ana/zen is not able to stay alive in the first place then it's gonna be better
? alphayi
kevster just sooooo good
kevster and proper are probably the best two tracers in the league
they are
pati
agree
deserved to go off the map there
i saw a different universe where he got whip shot off the map
I haven't watched a lot of the apac tracers but like
proper and kevster are just stupidly consistent on tracer
i saw the belosrea universe
where sojourns get too close to the edge
against boop heroes
lip be doing some crazy shit on tracer
I feel like I'm watching 2018 literally your entire job is to just play tracer all day every day levels of tracer
although i like how zest on push pressures the point so much
forced trance and overclock not too bad
f
Lip never plays tracer
5-5 sojourn
Why do you call it trance
He has
whats wrong with saying trance
It’s objectively wrong
first thing that comes to my head and what I type
In every way
its not
reiner played that so well
It’s called transcendence
yes
unfortunately ow2 doom is ow2 doom
better than calling it iris
cut it off at the e
meh it sounds the same and you know what they're talking about which is what matters
trans is translocator
^
??
???
Literally
lol
the difference between me typing trance and trans is not a measurable amount of time
some people do call it trans
i have literally never heard in my entire existence anyone calling it sombra tp
It’s annoying
tf are yall on
ope
i think most people call it translocator but some people do say trans
Cuz it’s objectively wrong
yeah just like ur takes
tp is sym
^^
Who calls sombra tp trans
everyone
I am on a discord for a dead video game discussing a dead esport, not typing an essay for english class, idc
you can say field or lamp
Well that’s like
both work
Enforced by the league
???
is it
enforced by the league my ass
I think riot does that with val
there is nothing wrong with saying field
but lamp...
to refer to lamp
I don't know if owl cares enough
superich lmao
who the fuck is gonna start watching owl now that doesn't know the abilities already
idk the specifics but the league does somewhat restrict what the casters can say, but i cant vouch for anything specific
also this is gonna be another 2am fucking end
I mean ofc
sans' grandmother
petty pulse
I hope whoever wins next game is a 3-0
yeah casters cannot say slurs
it was 4am for me lmao
(dragons)
they aren't gonna start reading 50 shades of gray on broadcast
and i have a fucking awful headache
coup de grace
no that i know of
hmm
this is so sad why are spark throwing
ope
no bubble from bernar?
bruh it feels like kevster doesn't miss pulses
farming tokens
because glads allegedly cannot win map 5
yo stop using nano when people are 20% away from ult
I don't know if I agree with the glads ults here
glads throwing away ults rn
Whyd it take so long to kill reiner lmao
it feels like
RIP
they've given spark an in
instead of just closing out with nano once reiner gets back
i think glads should have just held ults and fought a better fight
shy has to hit a fat overclock
its fine. no way glads lose overtime push with 2 checkpoints
and then win another 2 fights
6-5 sojourn
now kevster has to hit a pulse
if pati or kev land their ults it's gg
or pati has to pop tf off
Who winning?
2-2
Doesnf matter how they close spark would have to play perfect to win
pati is awful
idk what these casters are on
ok unless pati throws
God kevster is so fucking good
one pick does not equal over
that could also happen
well i guess they were right lol
yea but they had overclock and shy has been pounding
glads fans better be worshipping kevster for that
kevster finally does something
Funnyastro not in hawaii? 
already do
he has been
obvious bait try harder lmao
He obliterated spark that map
It was insane
yea feeding alphayi pulse
who?
betayi
blind ahh mofo
spark wins
bro he's trolling you
unfortunately
kevster show for a map win
i know lol
based
its ok
oh ok it seems im getting trolled
bro we got roles for that it's so simple
the double troll
she
lul
my bad
my pronouns are in my profile
i dont check profiles anywhere
4th time changing name today?? lol
??
didn't even know profile captions were a thing on discord tbh
hugo is changing my name
they are not
he is
average spark fan kekw
Sure schizo
please let glads not fucking troll like they did the last koth map
yeah exactly
@hollow bough next name change i am banning u]
get fucked
gd