esports-discussion

[mortal cipher]

Like every other has one or two players to carry where Shanghai is the entire roster

[earnest leaf]

I wanna see more from spark before I call them winners

[shut bobcat]

Have they been that good

[devout path]

Spark r the goats

It’s true

[earnest leaf]

they are an apac team and can randomly get 3-0ed by glads then dropped by some team in losers

[gloomy vector]

its not that i just think its more other team has been underwhelming

[fathom igloo]

lol tor lost to hou

[balmy wolf]

florida looked pretty good today

[devout path]

Spark have shy and alphayi

[mortal cipher]

By a map 5 tho

[devout path]

Alphayi is the roty

[willow tartan]

They may not be the winners but they won't be the losers. That'll be shock tomorrow.

[mortal cipher]

Probably

[devout path]

Shy is the goat

[fathom igloo]

true but still they lost to hou

[mortal cipher]

[mortal cipher]

Yeah but they looked good doing it

[devout path]

Midhai

[earnest leaf]

ngl I really have no clue who will win between shock and shd

[vagrant mason]

You’re not wrong Shanghai’s rosters been good since they had/got rid of geguri and got lip, void, and fleta.(not saying geguri was bad)

[devout path]

Midhai

[gloomy vector]

dragons should win it

[sullen berry]

I'm not watching. I really need to know - is this comebackable?

[balmy wolf]

Alright who on toronto fucked up

[earnest leaf]

I am not confident in either tbh

[devout path]

Who got swept by spark

[balmy wolf]

Why did houston win

This is unacceptable

[devout path]

Who got swept by spark

[sullen berry]

There's my answer

[devout path]

I’ll tell you

It was midhai dragons

[shut bobcat]

All of them

[sullen berry]

[shut bobcat]

Toronto is my favorite C tier team

[gloomy vector]

honestly lastro/zen

[sullen berry]

Toronto dropped some pasta, as per expectations

[willow tartan]

I have faith in the dragons to win because I favor fate/void over mikkey/coluge

[mortal cipher]

Yeah I mean they had Geguri in s3 but they just let go of extra players but they’ve been good since they started winning

[worthy lynx]

And merit

[mortal cipher]

Especially on ball

[balmy wolf]

Twilight is good but idk about everyone else...

[vagrant cargo]

lol justice didn't qualify

[devout path]

I personally don’t favor midhai dragons over anyone

[vagrant mason]

Addi addi addi you can’t be in denial I don’t like Shanghai ever since they beat Seoul last GF but they are simply better man

[vagrant cargo]

How can u say that after heesu n muzes performance this tourney lmfao

[gloomy vector]

yeah but zen was setting up so much damage

[trim shadow]

Pretty boy pelican

[devout path]

When did they beat Seoul

[vagrant cargo]

Also ch0r0ng has been a baller off zen too he's just sadly a shit zen

[willow tartan]

Yeah and you personally hate gay people or something like that

[mortal cipher]

It has to be a troll Nei one is this much in denial

[willow tartan]

Your opinion is not matter

[devout path]

I do

[trim shadow]

Its been 2 years since philly and dallas played right

[hot patio]

Bro how the fuck Florida beat London

[balmy wolf]

idk i dont pay attention much lol

[vagrant cargo]

I can tell

[vagrant mason]

Playoffs last GF

[twin bloom]

@vagrant cargo TD is just KR version of ATL if you think about it

[mortal cipher]

2020 and all of last year and early this year

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah

[gloomy vector]

London choked hard

[vagrant cargo]

At least muze and heesu farmed

[mortal cipher]

Yeah they did

[devout path]

Last GF was Seoul vs philly?

[balmy wolf]

pelican based

[vagrant cargo]

And Toronto showed that they deserved to he there

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

heesu best on td

[willow tartan]

Seoul wasn't even in the playoffs in 2021.

[vagrant cargo]

Mfs saying like Boston or justice deserved it over them

[devout path]

Why r u replying to me

[vagrant mason]

And before that I mean like everytime we’ve played didn’t mean to say GF LOL

[mortal cipher]

Because I can

[shut bobcat]

Who said Boston deserves to be in tourney

What did they even do

[fathom igloo]

Looking for who asked

[vagrant cargo]

A shitton of goons

[mortal cipher]

Did someone

[shut bobcat]

Boston did nothing to qualify sadly

[vagrant cargo]

🤓🤓🤓

[devout path]

What

[trim shadow]

Why does ovilee look like a nurse

[devout path]

Please make sense challenge (impossible)

[mortal cipher]

Did someone say that

[vagrant mason]

Everytime Seoul played Shanghai they lost

[vagrant cargo]

Pat ur talking quite a lot of shit for someone who had a mental breakdown and called ppl slurs just for disagreeing with u on justice cord xd

[devout path]

No they didn’t

[shut bobcat]

According to the sources yes

[devout path]

Shanghai lost to Seoul in playoffs literally last stage

[mortal cipher]

Wow

[fathom igloo]

That was literally like a year ago lol

[willow tartan]

And the qualifiers of this stage

[vagrant cargo]

It wasn't

[devout path]

Spark have swept both Shanghai and Seoul this stage

[mortal cipher]

One week

Yeah

But that one week

[vagrant cargo]

@twilit oriole show the receipts

[balmy wolf]

danteh will solo spark

midling team

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[vagrant cargo]

Danteh is a bum

Carried by doom buffs

Sad!

[shut bobcat]

Danteh should get past muze first

[willow tartan]

It's APAC. There will always be teams getting randomly swept

[fathom igloo]

Spark are just fusion but better

[willow tartan]

I do not put much weight to it

[devout path]

Keep coping

Midhai

[balmy wolf]

true

[shut bobcat]

Fusion😂

[devout path]

Third in apac

[mortal cipher]

When you are in that stacked of teams it’s bound to happen

[willow tartan]

Call it cope if you want I honestly don't care because the statistics back me up on this one.

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[willow tartan]

You can take a look at the track record of APAC teams since the splitting of the regions

[devout path]

It’s teams throwing except two players the region

[cunning patrol]

Godhai haven’t dropped a map this event. Wish I could say the same about spark…

[willow tartan]

And find that getting swept makes no difference to how they perform

in the tournament

[devout path]

Seoul dropped 3

[twin bloom]

Spark have alphayi irony

[vagrant mason]

In losers finals?

[devout path]

Seoul haven’t won a map this playoffs

[twin bloom]

Shd has fleta izayaki

Imo

[devout path]

Yes

[mortal cipher]

Well usually when too good teams play one gets swept

[cunning patrol]

Cope

[devout path]

0 map wins

[cunning patrol]

Good player, mediocre player

Imo

[twin bloom]

Irony is a big zen

Player

[trim shadow]

Typical fusion outfit

[twin bloom]

Completely gapped creative

Imo

[cunning patrol]

Spark got obliterated by Seoul for a living and they finally beat them

Happy for them!

[devout path]

Spark have shy

And alphayi

[fathom igloo]

This should be a quick game

[twin bloom]

I did not watch those matches

[devout path]

Simply the two goats of the game

[twin bloom]

So they don't count

[cunning patrol]

Irony

[mortal cipher]

For who tho

[cunning patrol]

Is a

[willow tartan]

Goats of the game who are worse than their shanghai counterparts

[cunning patrol]

B tier

Player

[vagrant mason]

Does that really count both teams knew whoever won would be immediately shot off by the next

[fathom igloo]

Dallas ez 3-0

[worn falcon]

philly shitting on dallas 🙏

[mortal cipher]

Hmm maybe

[cunning patrol]

Alphayi is better than fletameta

[devout path]

All of spark is forgettable except shy and alphayi

[willow tartan]

????

[cunning patrol]

Imo

[willow tartan]

guxue is not forgettable

neither is lige

[twin bloom]

Not goatnar

[willow tartan]

historic players

[fathom igloo]

Or pineapple

[twin bloom]

And irony

[cunning patrol]

Lige is so forgettable

[gloomy vector]

LUL reinforce just said to use lucio moria

[willow tartan]

architect

[cunning patrol]

Lmao

[willow tartan]

historic players

[fast tusk]

sometimes moira works

[twin bloom]

Guxue is one of the most overrated players of ow 1

Imo

[mortal cipher]

When

[gloomy vector]

lucio moria is dogshit

[devout path]

Guxue is forgettable so far this stage

[fast tusk]

i have no fucking idea XDDDDD

[willow tartan]

overrated means he's the opposite of forgettable

[fathom igloo]

in goats

[twin bloom]

Literally the same issue as gator but with winston instead of rein

Lol

[mortal cipher]

Exactly

[cunning patrol]

U only say this

[fathom igloo]

wait was moira in goats

[cunning patrol]

Cuz ppl said he was bigger than gator

[twin bloom]

But no one gave guxue shit for being a winston one play

[cunning patrol]

In ow1

[devout path]

????

[cunning patrol]

Imo

[devout path]

????

?????

[twin bloom]

Yes

[devout path]

??????

????

[twin bloom]

That is a stupid statement

Imo

[cunning patrol]

@vagrant cargo @twilit oriole

[devout path]

That’s cuz it’s a meta char

[vagrant cargo]

I've seen it all

[twilit oriole]

😭

[twin bloom]

Rein was more meta in s4

Than monkay

Imo

[fathom igloo]

bro I literally started playing after the goats era

[fast tusk]

take hat

[vagrant cargo]

Patrickpat from SpongeBob mickeymouse clubhouse doesn't even know what goats is

[devout path]

U watch too much na

[earnest leaf]

I think moira was in very early iterations of goats

[twin bloom]

It wen't ball>rein>orisa>monkey

Imo

[balmy wolf]

houston better map 5 wr than shanghai 😱

[twin bloom]

In terms of MT

Pr

[earnest leaf]

and I think sometimes used if winston was in place of rein

[devout path]

Moira is goats

[gloomy vector]

for me its so hard to consistently watch apac

[mortal cipher]

I played before mid and after in between each other

[devout path]

Goats is literally

[cunning patrol]

Guxue is bigger

[devout path]

Rein dva zarya lucio brig moira

[cunning patrol]

Than gator

Imo

[vagrant cargo]

GOATs is a betacomp

[worthy lynx]

Moira was goats first

[vagrant cargo]

That was the first iteration

[devout path]

Goats was when ow was good

[earnest leaf]

Goats was the greatest meta to grace this game

[cunning patrol]

And NA made it

[balmy wolf]

good take

[willow tartan]

Shock fan talking

[balmy wolf]

so true

[gloomy vector]

Based

[vagrant cargo]

Only sweaty Plat nerds say that

[balmy wolf]

goats was best meta

[cunning patrol]

#NAisallah

[twin bloom]

Monkey one trick bias imo

[devout path]

By definition that’s what goats is

[fathom igloo]

I remembered it was d.va rein zar lucio I couldn't remeber if moira was there or not

[twin bloom]

But for Ow 2

[vagrant cargo]

That dont go outside

[twin bloom]

Probably

[cunning patrol]

Imo

He had

[balmy wolf]

goats was the golden age of overwatch

love it or hate it

[cunning patrol]

A better season 2

[fathom igloo]

nah

[earnest leaf]

Goats objectively gave high quality games when good teams played it in s2

[cunning patrol]

Than gator season 4

Imo

[twin bloom]

Maybe

[balmy wolf]

it's when the game hit its peak

[worthy lynx]

Goats was made ny team goats who ran moira as

[earnest leaf]

stage 1/2 finals, top tier

[worthy lynx]

First iteration goats

[devout path]

And terrible quality games too

[twin bloom]

But s2 had alot of bad players in the MT position

[worthy lynx]

It got changed later

[vagrant mason]

You’re not wrong

[worthy lynx]

By other teams

[twin bloom]

Compared to s4

[earnest leaf]

we ignore the 90% of teams that were miserable at goats

[willow tartan]

GOATs did not cause high quality games. There are just high quality games when 2 good teams fight

[vagrant cargo]

GOATs was the beginning of the end

[willow tartan]

Goats just happened

[vagrant cargo]

If we are being realistic

[willow tartan]

to be there

[lost thicket]

yes

[twin bloom]

Goats made everybody better

At the game

[devout path]

Goats was the beginning of people getting too good at the video game

[vagrant cargo]

Yes but also killed the hype

[lost thicket]

Goats made everyone at the game better

[twin bloom]

And the goats era was when ow was peaking

As an esport

[gloomy vector]

honestly bunker was always the worst i would take goats any day over bunker

[twin bloom]

The atlantic showdown

[willow tartan]

but that's not because of goats

[vagrant cargo]

Disagree respectfully

[twin bloom]

Was so hype

[lost thicket]

cause the overall technique n micro plays was so high

[willow tartan]

you dont credit it to goats

[twin bloom]

And that was goats

[lost thicket]

also had the best matches

[willow tartan]

without goats it would have happened anyways with a different composition

[twin bloom]

Na and EU were not dead

[worthy lynx]

Bunker sucks

[vagrant cargo]

Imo S3 was the best in terms of quality

[twin bloom]

Regions

[devout path]

That’s cuz goats was meta for so long

[lost thicket]

when the top teams played it

[earnest leaf]

The issue was there was pretty much two great goats teams, two decent ones, then everyone else sucked dick

[lost thicket]

and it was fun

you couldn't abuse it since it was very fucking smart

[devout path]

Not for most people

[lost thicket]

I mean you could abuse it

[balmy wolf]

goats was fun as hell

[devout path]

It was very interesting for people who actively cared

[fathom igloo]

when I first started playing rein zar was the meta in comp

[lost thicket]

if you were smart and fun as shit

[balmy wolf]

so fast paced

[devout path]

It’s always meta in gold

[balmy wolf]

and actually felt like team game

[lost thicket]

yet not a braindead deathball

[willow tartan]

my favourite GOATs game happened on July 15, 2019

[lost thicket]

it had the most team games

[twin bloom]

S3 had more shit mid teams but more top teams compared to s4

But s4 had less bad teams

Imo

[vagrant cargo]

Agreed

[worthy lynx]

Does anyone remember tracer brig being meta

[devout path]

S4 had like

[vagrant cargo]

But u had cool mid tier battles

[cunning patrol]

S3 had big metas

Imo

[vagrant cargo]

Like mayhem vs valiant

[willow tartan]

S3

[vagrant cargo]

Those games always hit

[devout path]

4 really bad teams

[twin bloom]

London and titans

[vagrant cargo]

Also the Tracer hitscan comps were fun as fuck

Or the genji games

[twin bloom]

Would be good

In s3

Maybe not good

But not the worst

[devout path]

London titans valiant charge

[twin bloom]

Like 15th

Or something

Same with charge

[mortal cipher]

When it broke

[devout path]

Not the worst

Absolutely not

Boston exists

[gloomy vector]

actually the worst comp to watch was the orisa/hog it was so boring imo

[devout path]

Houston

Exists

[twin bloom]

TD

The TD that lost scrims

Vs malibu

[devout path]

That’s a team?

[shut bobcat]

Who is the philly tank

[twin bloom]

Lol

[shut bobcat]

Did I miss something

[vagrant mason]

Maybe for you

[vagrant cargo]

TD is like unironicaly the worst team in OWL history

[willow tartan]

orisa hog was not that bad because it came with double sniper meaning we got to see highlights

[mortal cipher]

Beloresa

[vagrant cargo]

Like if we look at it all time

[fast tusk]

carpe isnt first

[inland quail]

aight p[hilly time

[twin bloom]

Boston has been worse

Imo

[vagrant cargo]

Mah

[devout path]

Toronto has never had a good season

[worthy lynx]

Philly match

[vagrant cargo]

S1 carries them

[inland quail]

philly wins this

trust

[devout path]

They’ve always been low mid to bottom tier

[twin bloom]

Boston has been ass for 3 seasons now

[inland quail]

have good willpower

[twin bloom]

Td has always been mid

[vagrant cargo]

So did defiant

[twin bloom]

Or slightly below mid

[mortal cipher]

Toronto have the good but not good

[devout path]

Boston had a good season

[vagrant cargo]

S3 defiant was ass

[gloomy vector]

i mean you can find gems in any meta/comp just personally it was the worst to watch for me

[worthy lynx]

Kickoff clash runner up match

[willow tartan]

anyways r u guys ready for zest and the gang to bully dallas fuel out of the tournament?

[twin bloom]

Their were like 5 teams worse than em

[vagrant cargo]

Who

[mortal cipher]

[lost thicket]

anyways

[vagrant cargo]

Boston

[inland quail]

fax

[vagrant cargo]

Titans

Dallas

[lost thicket]

why did london loose

[twin bloom]

Dallas was better

[lost thicket]

did they choke or did mayhem just

[vagrant cargo]

They got cocky

[lost thicket]

fuck

[devout path]

Chadi got mental diffed

[twin bloom]

Even without decay

[mortal cipher]

Ironically the teams both are called the cycle of misery

[worthy lynx]

Both

[vagrant cargo]

Ok but baazo

Now hear me out

[vagrant mason]

Orisa hog meta was one of the best season hands down you can’t say it wasnt

[vagrant cargo]

MuZe shock

[worthy lynx]

London choked

[twin bloom]

Ok

[lost thicket]

who fucked most on the mayhem

[worthy lynx]

Mayhem got better

[devout path]

??????

[willow tartan]

Most people crack under the unshuddering gaze of Someone

[devout path]

?????

[vagrant mason]

Don’t question it

[vagrant cargo]

And Gladiators trade kai for reiner and get someone from mayhem

[vagrant mason]

It really was

[vagrant cargo]

And Atlanta get hydron

[devout path]

I wish I could see someone and chadi kiss

[twin bloom]

I am fine

With it

[mortal cipher]

Ayo

[worthy lynx]

Xzi and someone

[lost thicket]

pretty ok

[balmy wolf]

chadi got so scared of someone he solo shattered every time he saw him

sad

[lost thicket]

nice

[vagrant cargo]

I feel like hydron fits atlanta

He's not being used well

Imho

[devout path]

Hydron fits na contenders

[balmy wolf]

I want xzi back on fuel so bad

[lost thicket]

the bicycle of misery

[vagrant cargo]

Fuel a fraud team

[twin bloom]

TD were better than boston titans houston and justice(pre mickey mouse meta)

That season

[earnest leaf]

more lucio moira

pain

[vagrant cargo]

Theu rlly picked up guriyo lmfao

[willow tartan]

yes but can dallas skill gap fusion (maybe)

[balmy wolf]

fuel dps wage thieves

[willow tartan]

depends on how hard their dps get diffed

[devout path]

No

[balmy wolf]

unfortunately

[devout path]

Mn3 and zest absolutely skill diff everyone except fearless hanbin fielder

[willow tartan]

yes but its a question of if they will skill diff

because there is no telling that they will absolutely annihilate them

and stop them from doing things

like the shanghai game

[gloomy vector]

the more i think of it the summer showdown genji meta wasnt the worst it was entertaining

[balmy wolf]

I feel like doha's reaper was better than edisons

tbh

[devout path]

It wasn’t

[balmy wolf]

from what I remember

[devout path]

Ur dumb if you think it is

[balmy wolf]

edison makes so many more dumbass mistakes

[devout path]

No

Doha just got bailed out by the goat

Hanbin

[gloomy vector]

well i never thought it was the worst i just get stale really easily from mirrors

[willow tartan]

fusion dps arent killing enough

please kill something

[devout path]

Philly lose gg

If they don’t get two picks each philly lose every fight

[vagrant mason]

I’m kinda confused

I’m so confused

[willow tartan]

please u cannot tell me that mn3 and zest are losing reaper genji

[balmy wolf]

aimgod could crush your skull with his bare hands

[willow tartan]

????

[devout path]

Aimgod sucks

[willow tartan]

zest throwing

[balmy wolf]

stfu twink

[earnest leaf]

yes zest, un wraith out of an ulting reaper

[devout path]

Did

[vagrant mason]

Philly has the comp to really diff this and they aren’t wth?

[gloomy vector]

like how was it 100-0

[devout path]

Who did you call a twink

[balmy wolf]

damn

[willow tartan]

fusion need to

kill the dps

[worthy lynx]

This is really bad

[balmy wolf]

this means fusion 3-0

[devout path]

LOL

[inland quail]

yea prob

[devout path]

I LOVE SEEING PEOPLE WHO DONT WATCH APAC

[balmy wolf]

who would

[cunning patrol]

Why are u shouting

[balmy wolf]

shits boring as hell 💀

[devout path]

It’s so funny seeing people see philly

[worthy lynx]

I dont watch apac that often its too late but

[worn falcon]

fixa moment

[devout path]

For the first time

[worthy lynx]

Still i thought

[willow tartan]

? how does watching apac have anything to do with anything

[worthy lynx]

Philly was better

[willow tartan]

its true

[vagrant mason]

Uh what?

[willow tartan]

fusion had the better comp

but still lostr

[devout path]

It’s philly

[willow tartan]

that wasnt their statement though

yooo killing people

lets goo

[gusty rampart]

No Chipsa, no win

[gloomy vector]

Chipsa?

[vagrant mason]

I watched Philly they’re comp and players were really good at separating and pouncing players and comms like they’re doing now

[gloomy vector]

what

[balmy wolf]

oh no it's dallas v shanghai all over again

[earnest leaf]

can't wait to watch fearless primal zen who has 3 brig packs and rally hp

[fast tusk]

fr

[vagrant mason]

But first map they weren’t doing that

[mortal cipher]

Wouldn’t be shocked if that happened

[willow tartan]

fusion win 3-0 their dps are killing people

[earnest leaf]

ok they learned winston is bad here

[willow tartan]

yes

[vagrant mason]

Fixa popping off

[gusty rampart]

I think every series today will be a 5 mapper

[vagrant mason]

Fuck I wish alarm was here

[devout path]

Philly

Sweep

Or get swept

There is no in between

[willow tartan]

jesus zest

[gusty rampart]

Zest a little goofy

[worthy lynx]

Lucio dupe pog

[vagrant mason]

Philly wins if they keep doing this

[balmy wolf]

edison

[cunning patrol]

Zest better than fixa at lucio

[balmy wolf]

why

[cunning patrol]

Sad!

[worthy lynx]

Blossom?????

[willow tartan]

It made sense for Dallas to play Moira Lucio against Shanghai... but why against Fusion? They are afraid of losing to Aimgod Fixa?

[worthy lynx]

Wtf????

[fast tusk]

nice blossm

[mortal cipher]

Apparently

[balmy wolf]

doha would never

[trim shadow]

The fuck are theese two rounds

[devout path]

They’re afraid of mn3 Ashe

[twin bloom]

Belosrea either the ball goat

[inland quail]

belosrea has improved

[mortal cipher]

100% -0 both times lol

[twin bloom]

Or fuel is terrible

[inland quail]

still not good

[balmy wolf]

mickey mouse teams

[inland quail]

but hes improved

[vagrant mason]

Chipa ash?

[trim shadow]

Has this ever happened?

[willow tartan]

yes

[vagrant mason]

Lul

[trim shadow]

100-0 back to back has happened?

[willow tartan]

ueyes

[earnest leaf]

oh boy genji time

[balmy wolf]

lmaooo

[devout path]

Yes??

[balmy wolf]

love my team

[mortal cipher]

Fusion decided to play

[lost thicket]

As a Floridan it was always hard for me to understand European culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their free healthcare which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I could have free healthcare. I always thought 'How is that possible'. However after this game I finally understand it. Europe is just so fucking free.

[devout path]

Why would it not have happened

[vagrant mason]

Sp9rkle genii nice

[devout path]

You do realize

How many

Control games

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[devout path]

Have been played over all of owl right

[trim shadow]

Today has been a gold mine of new things

[willow tartan]

The only person that is allowed to force Genji is WhoRU. What do these poeple not understand?

[vagrant mason]

Edison?

[mortal cipher]

Hm

[worthy lynx]

Questionable dupe

[vagrant mason]

I wanna see Edison abuse reaper

[worthy lynx]

Oh well it worked

[cunning patrol]

How are fuel this awful @twin bloom

[balmy wolf]

that wasn't even bad play

[trim shadow]

This is gonna be a long series

[worthy lynx]

Rip zest

[vagrant mason]

They needa dive fixa and pop reapers ult

[balmy wolf]

ok now thats

[vagrant mason]

Hm suprised they got that

WOW

[worthy lynx]

Good trade

[balmy wolf]

sp9 hits these

[willow tartan]

sparkle

nice

[worthy lynx]

sparkle

Man

[balmy wolf]

bozo

[vagrant mason]

lol

😭😭

[willow tartan]

fixa diff

[worthy lynx]

Rip twinkle man

[willow tartan]

wait why fusion no cameras

[mortal cipher]

Well

[balmy wolf]

no fucking wayyyy

[worthy lynx]

Yikes

[mortal cipher]

Fusion

[twin bloom]

Sp9rkle is so fucking bad

Lmao

[fast tusk]

no fucking way

[balmy wolf]

lmao

he had one job

[vagrant mason]

LMAOO

[willow tartan]

APAC teams here to expose NA as I predicted

[worthy lynx]

He looks so upset

[vagrant mason]

You can tell he feels bad too awww

[trim shadow]

100-0
100-0
100-99

[mortal cipher]

Same

[worthy lynx]

Man

[vagrant mason]

Got damn. Lol

[twin bloom]

As long as ATL beat seoul

[worthy lynx]

Go agane sparkle man

[twin bloom]

It is a good day

[balmy wolf]

guriyo coming in

[willow tartan]

they wont

[balmy wolf]

gg

philly earned it ig

[willow tartan]

seoul have more fight in them than to lose to ratlanta

[vagrant mason]

Yo agustine what does your bio mean?

[balmy wolf]

i swear to fuck if they pick midtown

[worthy lynx]

?

[balmy wolf]

or new york map

whatever the fuck the name is

[vagrant mason]

Like dm for close friends or gf?

Wdym by that

[worthy lynx]

Both

Not talking to alot of other friends rn

[vagrant mason]

Oh

[worthy lynx]

Except like extremely close ones

Too much stress

[willow tartan]

so its not DM to buy a girlfriend?

my bad

[vagrant mason]

That’s what I thought lol

[worthy lynx]

Oh lol

Yeah no

[willow tartan]

no worries i will take my human trafficking middleman business elsewhere

[vagrant mason]

Lmao 😂

[mortal cipher]

Lmbao

[inland quail]

I told yall

philly claps

[vagrant mason]

Suprisingly tbh

[willow tartan]

philly does not clap

NA is just bad

[balmy wolf]

i will officially stop supporting fuel if they get swept by fraudsion

[mortal cipher]

Phillys determined to get second again

They got swept last time

[vagrant mason]

Yo this is my take ok

[willow tartan]

Okay. Still gonna bully you for it.

[fast tusk]

lmao someone typed mccree in the youtube chat and instantly got deleted XDDDDD

[willow tartan]

fury and guriyo hmm

[vagrant mason]

Old shock ow1 super,choi,ANS,Twilight,Smurf ect folds new shanghai,Dallas AND philly

[willow tartan]

well that's just wrong

[balmy wolf]

sike

do you know how much betters are now

bro english

[vagrant mason]

I’m confused lol

[inland quail]

so philly is better

[balmy wolf]

players are better now basically

[vagrant mason]

It’s true tho

[inland quail]

you need copium lmao

[balmy wolf]

also this is 5v5

[inland quail]

yall arent realising

philly is not as bad as you say

[balmy wolf]

not what old shock know how to play

[inland quail]

just inconsistent

[vagrant mason]

I’m talking abt 6v6

[earnest leaf]

the individual skill level of good players from s3 to now isn't much different

[willow tartan]

Its not. Shock almost lost to old shanghai in 2020 when they couldn't play the composition they actually played and had to sub out one of their best players. What makes you think that they will be better than new shanghai who is exactly like old shanghai except better ?

[earnest leaf]

Also 2020 shock vs shd imo is meta dependent

[balmy wolf]

fearless shanghai was my favorite

[earnest leaf]

Dive metas shd would probably be favored more often, but in rush/poke shock would be better

[worthy lynx]

Poor dallas

[vagrant mason]

Ok almost tho the only reason they subbed super is cause he was kinda selling And we kinda just played a diving comp besides that we matched Shanghai’s fearless with ANS and lip with Nero

[willow tartan]

...

[balmy wolf]

huh?

[balmy wolf]

LMAO

[mortal cipher]

[balmy wolf]

apac looney tunes region

[willow tartan]

are you like okay?

[fast tusk]

dope ass thumbnail

[keen abyss]

someone didnt watch 2021

[balmy wolf]

dallas could be so good it makes me sad

[worthy lynx]

Did dallas pick this map?

[vagrant mason]

Wdym?

[balmy wolf]

yes

[keen abyss]

?

[worthy lynx]

Oh.

[willow tartan]

Nero did not play for the shock in 2020

[balmy wolf]

i just mean that its silly

[mortal cipher]

Charge

[vagrant mason]

I forgot his name but he also played hit scan

[keen abyss]

how is apac the looney toons region when london atlanta dallas washington and toronto exist

[balmy wolf]

i dont understand was guriyo good in contenders?

[willow tartan]

Striker

how do u forget

ur best player

[worthy lynx]

I guess

[vagrant mason]

There we go i know it’s just I haven’t heard his name in a while

[balmy wolf]

i just dont see why else they got him

[earnest leaf]

guriyo was good but his team was shit in contenders

[vagrant mason]

But yea STRIKER to deal with lip

[keen abyss]

imagine if dallas had gotten any of the current starter apac hitscan players

[willow tartan]

and super played cuz he was the best hog

not because of anything else

[balmy wolf]

or was his team just that bad that guriyo shined among them

[willow tartan]

or the non-starting hitscans...

[earnest leaf]

Imagine if dallas got striker

[balmy wolf]

lip is literally the best player in owl

[willow tartan]

they lose to mental

[balmy wolf]

nobody handles him

[earnest leaf]

but what if rush could keep striker in check

[worthy lynx]

SPARKLE??????

[earnest leaf]

so there would be no mental boomage

[fast tusk]

XDDDDDDD

[lofty shale]

sparkle what the actual fuck

[cunning patrol]

Sp9 is mad funny

[willow tartan]

#esports-discussion message

[lofty shale]

i mean i guess he was gonna die anyways

[balmy wolf]

13

not bad

[fast tusk]

omg

[lofty shale]

eh yea that sparkle throw wasn't as ugly as it initially seems

[balmy wolf]

good fucking hold considering

[lofty shale]

he was defi gonna die anyways

[worthy lynx]

Yeah the hold itself wasnt bad

5 minutes turned into 13 seconds

[keen abyss]

yeah they'd be better with practically any apac hitscan but

if they had one of the starters they'd actually be fucking monstrous

[balmy wolf]

lip robbed

[lofty shale]

i think sparkle made up for the soft throw lol

[balmy wolf]

sp9rk1e vs fusion

[worthy lynx]

Yeah

[willow tartan]

non-starting APAC hitscans: pineapple, (i dont know who starts on valiant), carpe, stalk3r

[fast tusk]

fr

wait whos pineapple again ?

[keen abyss]

y'all giving lip all this praise when he's gonna get gapped by patiphan tomorrow 😈

[willow tartan]

lip gaps ur mother asshole

[lofty shale]

oh shit glads vs shanghai tommorow?

[willow tartan]

no

[balmy wolf]

fraud player carried by aimbot ultimate

[worthy lynx]

I thought it was glads spark

[willow tartan]

tomorrow is shock dragons

[lofty shale]

oh then wtf is that dude talkin bout

[keen abyss]

oh day after

for some reason i thought shock dragons was today

when shanghai rolls shock it will be shock glads

[willow tartan]

if glads dont get shit on by shy

[balmy wolf]

ok real talk though

[lofty shale]

i hope shock don't play like shit again

[balmy wolf]

guriyo is doing more than mn3

[lofty shale]

seeing shock play like shit hurts because they should be a strong team

[balmy wolf]

let this man play ashe

[willow tartan]

they should not be a strong team

[earnest leaf]

they didn't play like shit vs london wym

[lofty shale]

like if they just get rolled by shanghai that'll be disappointing

[balmy wolf]

ofc as soon as i say that he kills every1

[keen abyss]

[willow tartan]

dont listen to the shock fan he is biased

listen to me, i am biased but at least i admit it

[lofty shale]

?

idk what that means

[earnest leaf]

london played really well vs shock and deserve more credit for it

[keen abyss]

all teams that have underperformed more than shock

in recent times

[willow tartan]

london played well and shock played poorly

both can exist

[mortal cipher]

Teams that should be good but fell

[mortal cipher]

That Charlie niner

[earnest leaf]

Only time shock really fucked up was losing point control 500 times first map

[worthy lynx]

Okay i need genuine opinions on spark vs glads

[keen abyss]

hard to say

[worthy lynx]

I am biased towards glads but not delusional i need actual opinions

[earnest leaf]

spark vs glads depends on if shy wants to do the thing or not

[keen abyss]

we haven't seen glads vs apac

[lofty shale]

washington aint even underperforming they just fucking suck

[earnest leaf]

I think glads win though

[keen abyss]

spark looks good after the seoul match

[mortal cipher]

Spark depends

[keen abyss]

glads have only had 2 losses

and they were both 3-2

where they looked dominant for a good portion

but since those losses shock had a shock lan moment

and dallas fell off really hard

[fast tusk]

dallas chokeable

[balmy wolf]

FEARLESS SIG?

[earnest leaf]

boy do I love third point kr

[willow tartan]

The only advantage that Spark have over lads is off tank and hitscan

[earnest leaf]

also surely dallas don't choke away a 5 min time bank

[lofty shale]

jeez these staggers are brutal for dallas

[willow tartan]

you underestimate the power of fusion

[balmy wolf]

NOOOO

DALLAS PLEASE

[earnest leaf]

interesting pulse zest

[keen abyss]

bernar sig gaps space sig ?

[earnest leaf]

oh no

mn3 gonna flank

[worthy lynx]

Uh oh

[lofty shale]

dallas literally just fucking dying one by one

[earnest leaf]

he's either gonna kill 6 or insta die

he insta died

[willow tartan]

LOL

[earnest leaf]

LMAO

[worthy lynx]

This isnt good

[willow tartan]

fucking rolled

[lofty shale]

they haven't gotten a teamfight in 2 minutes

dallas went from having like 2.5 teamfights to just one

[earnest leaf]

mn3 decided to hold his ult

[willow tartan]

mn free

[earnest leaf]

for no fucking reason

holy fuck

[mortal cipher]

Oof

[fast tusk]

sparkle diff

[mortal cipher]

Maybe it would’ve been a waste if he used it

[balmy wolf]

sig diff

[worthy lynx]

Sparkle making up for map 1

[keen abyss]

interesting matchup because

philly hard gaps dallas frauds' tank and supports

but dallas have the much better dps

[balmy wolf]

bro

say sike

[keen abyss]

sike

[lofty shale]

what the fuck is this dude smokin

ok good

[worthy lynx]

Lol

[earnest leaf]

oh god

[keen abyss]

not the san francisco shock pack fortunately

[earnest leaf]

this might be a draw

[cloud latch]

💀 💀 💀

[earnest leaf]

ok good they got a tick

no draw

[lofty shale]

yea anything is better than that

[trim shadow]

Watch this be a tie

[lofty shale]

shock fans last year were fucking awful

[willow tartan]

when are they not

[lofty shale]

true

[keen abyss]

they're worse this year

[lofty shale]

nah they were worse last year imo

they were blaming nero for their issues lmao

[willow tartan]

their ego has been inflated too much (it will end tomorrow)

[earnest leaf]

last year they were either doomers or flaming fdgod and viol2t

[willow tartan]

and nero

and glister

[earnest leaf]

nero didn't get much blame after stage 1 ended

if any at all tbh

glister got a bit but not a lot

[willow tartan]

fdgod did get the brunt of it

[earnest leaf]

90% of it was directed at viol2t/fdgod

[lofty shale]

nero was literally considering taking a break from overwatch because of all the hate he got lmao

[willow tartan]

there may be a draw yet

shock fan

[mortal cipher]

He was considering retiring I throught

[earnest leaf]

ok

[fast tusk]

this feels like its been going on forever

[worthy lynx]

Winnable

[lofty shale]

permanent break ig

[earnest leaf]

surely philly don't also triple cap

[lofty shale]

one or the other

[balmy wolf]

long ah map

[sullen berry]

I want what sp9rk1e is eating pregame

[mortal cipher]

Ah

[balmy wolf]

no way

the full cap

[mortal cipher]

How would a triple cap even happen

[lofty shale]

i dont really remember which it was but yea the hate got to him real bad

[sullen berry]

I have no idea

[willow tartan]

By MN3 shooting the enemy team in the head

[inland quail]

sparkie carry bru the rest of the team not doin shit

[balmy wolf]

fusionable

[earnest leaf]

triple cap = full cap

[trim shadow]

I havent seen a ot cap in 2 years

[balmy wolf]

sp9rk1e carrying the entire team on his back rn

[mortal cipher]

It was either Nero glitter fdgod or Taiyo

[mortal cipher]

Reasonable

[trim shadow]

Getting ptsd from atlanta 8-6 kings row

[worthy lynx]

Yup

[lofty shale]

well no it was nero, i just dont remember whether he was considering retiring or just taking a break

[sullen berry]

Dallas beat Philly on King's Row 6-9

[mortal cipher]

I mean the hate players on shock got

[balmy wolf]

its not coming home

[lofty shale]

ah gotcha

[willow tartan]

i am so excited for the rematch of the rematch of the 2020 playoffs winner's final

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[mortal cipher]

Shush

[willow tartan]

gg

[lofty shale]

rip this was looking like a good map for fusion when they were getting all those staggers on dallas

[willow tartan]

wait

question mark

aimgod gets 2/?

[earnest leaf]

please

dallas just win one fight

and you're good

don't let them full cap

[willow tartan]

aimgod and mn3 gets 2

full cap time

[lofty shale]

they still have to fucking complete the map lol

[worthy lynx]

How am i so behind you guys

Youtube sucks

[lofty shale]

fusion are not gonna complete

[mortal cipher]

Fusion have to be perfect

[lofty shale]

it's fine for me and im watching on the youtube app on an xbox lol

[balmy wolf]

highly unlikely

they win this

[earnest leaf]

gg

wait

[willow tartan]

ggs

wait

wtf

[earnest leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[willow tartan]

they have blade beat

they dont lose

dallas cant lose

[earnest leaf]

philly have no ults tho so it should be gg

[lofty shale]

no fucking shot they full complete

[fast tusk]

wow

[willow tartan]

mn3 does not kill

the vlade

[balmy wolf]

lmaooo

[lofty shale]

fusion are not gonna complete

[willow tartan]

surely

[mortal cipher]

Wow

[lofty shale]

i promise

[earnest leaf]

beat/blade kill supports

gg

[fast tusk]

c9 ?

[lofty shale]

they wont

[mortal cipher]

Surely they don’t

[worthy lynx]

Nooooo wayyy

[willow tartan]

okay gg this time

for real

[balmy wolf]

dallas have such good engages but somehow lose

[willow tartan]

gg

[sullen berry]

I better not miss my stop for this

[lofty shale]

i told you they wont complete

[balmy wolf]

lmao fury helped sp9rk1e

[inland quail]

yea I saw that lol

[worthy lynx]

Damn

[inland quail]

sparkle is hard carrying

no one else doing shit

just sparkly

[sullen berry]

Dallas has been playing big on sp9rk1e being the flank master

[lofty shale]

yea sparkle doing really well

[trim shadow]

Ayo wheres my 6-6 tie?

[sullen berry]

It's only because philly cannot fight back the team fights that come to them 4v5

[willow tartan]

surely the seoul game will not go to map 5 as well

[sullen berry]

You want a blowout right

[lofty shale]

honestly im good with this im farming the fuck outta these tokens this week

[red bay]

Be pretty cool if it did

[willow tartan]

would not be opposed to one (i hate america)

[sullen berry]

America hates us all, dude

We live with it

[lofty shale]

isnt the reaper luchador skin gonna get a seoul and gladiators version in the next remix event?

[sullen berry]

Laugh at them

[willow tartan]

I can hate them back

[lofty shale]

guys make sure you save tokens for that

[sullen berry]

And watch as they go "no bully "

[keen abyss]

the m*rcy skin is going to get a gladiators version too i'm hyped

[willow tartan]

what is no bull

[sullen berry]

I meant No bully

[lofty shale]

i dont give a fuck about mercy lol i aint even gonna get the skin

[keen abyss]

based but the skin is still

better than all of her other 5 limited skins

imo

[lofty shale]

the skin is nice but ive got like 2 fucking minutes on mercy lol

[inland quail]

you def a seoul fan lmao

[keen abyss]

?

[lofty shale]

literally the most boring hero in the game idk why so many people one trick mercy dont @ me

[keen abyss]

i don't watch apac enough to be a fan of any apac teams

[inland quail]

faxxxxx

[keen abyss]

probably closest to being a valiant or spark fan but

valiant is having a bit of a uh

morality questionablity moment

again

[lofty shale]

oh yea lemme just fucking attach myself to this soldier this gameplay is so funnnn haha

oh wow it takes so much skill to press a button around a corner and literally bring someone back to fucking life

[keen abyss]

me and this soldier are so connected 🥺

[worthy lynx]

I wonder whats more boring

[sullen berry]

Now that's saying something about guriyo after being diffed yesterday by lipomaker

[worthy lynx]

One tricking mercy

Or brig

[keen abyss]

it's like i'm holding his hand but in game

[mortal cipher]

Oof

[lofty shale]

i really wish they would rework mercy into a cooler support, like legit out of all the heroes they need to rework she should be at the top imo

like fuck the onetricks that would cry

[keen abyss]

please i want to see the outcry of the m*rcy mains

when an element of mechanical skill that isn't just dodging

[stuck radish]

unlucky because the devs said they want more mercy style supports

[keen abyss]

is added to the hero

oasis worst control map

[lofty shale]

what the fuck are they gonna do? rework literally every support in the game to fit the status quo of supports with literally no playmaking ability?

[vagrant mason]

Ok when Philly Vs Dallas game is over can someone spam ping me so I can come back

[stuck radish]

they mean new supports

[vagrant mason]

If anyone can?

[lofty shale]

make support mains cry even more because they think their role is shit and boring?

[stuck radish]

not old ones

[willow tartan]

I want to see the outcry of the mercy players when mercy gets a skill to learn that isn't practised by literally every other hero in the game

[sullen berry]

@vagrant mason just come back in 30 minutes

[keen abyss]

TRUEEE

BASED MEMEICUS

[worthy lynx]

Support is literally so sleeper

[fast tusk]

no carpe no win

[lofty shale]

it literally isn't

support has dominated the meta since brig came out

[keen abyss]

i need to practice my ana she is genuinely 1k sr below my other supports

[lofty shale]

or do you mean it's boring

?

[worthy lynx]

I mean its boring

[lofty shale]

because i also disagree with that

i think support is fun as hell

[worthy lynx]

Idk maybe its just personal preference

[lofty shale]

bap and zen are satisfying as hell