esports-discussion

[balmy wolf]

Yeh

I feel like I'm drinking a gasoline of oil every time I get it Mike's way at Jersey Mike's

[willow tartan]

Got to buy my double quarter pounder fried footlongs from John Smith down at jimmy johns

[balmy wolf]

And somehow the processed meat feels raw which I didn't even know was possible

[willow tartan]

Jersey Mike?

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

It's another sandwich place ;-;

[willow tartan]

these things are not real

[balmy wolf]

Lmao

We got

Jimmy John's, Jersey Mike's, subway, and firehouse subs

And Wich Wich

[willow tartan]

it sounds like a country that doesn't speak English making up fictional place names for a video game

[balmy wolf]

Yeah pretty much

Subway firehouse and Wich Wich clear tho

Subway is cheap tho so it wins for me

They have 4 dollar foot longs

[willow tartan]

me will buy from Ralph's

[hot onyx]

Excuse you

You’d cry too if you replaced a top 5 support line with a bottom 5 support line and somehow downgraded from Mano

[inland quail]

they dont deserve us bru

[ebon aurora]

preds are locked since you have to predict the whole bracket in one go

I have no idea what to think of Fusion v Fuel

DPS wise Fusion should diff but then tank/supp line is much better for Fuel

[last nimbus]

Yeah shd gonna win this tourna prob

[plush grail]

ur dutch right

did u watch the games

how the fuck am i supposed to work during the day and watch owl 1 am - 7 am

[last nimbus]

I watched hou v glads

Then i went to sleep

And i rewatch in evenings

[candid radish]

Easy, performance enhancing drugs

[hot onyx]

Caught up with Spark vs Seoul

[last nimbus]

Shy too good for this world

Mvp nominee at least

[hot onyx]

Couldn’t agree more

As well as AlphaYi doing the domination

#sparktheworld

[balmy wolf]

dallas lost so hard 🥲

oh ok

so did Seoul

[balmy wolf]

how was london vs sfs?

[molten portal]

london were pretty good but shock dps just outclassed londons

well i mean proper just kinda is crazy

s9mm did pretty well also tbh

and london didnt force rush

[split edge]

aight just woke up who won the last two matches?

[molten portal]

shangai

and spark

[molten portal]

both sweeps

[split edge]

Oh ok

Thanks

[willow drum]

you know

maybe seoul

isnt that good

[sullen berry]

This is the cursed timezone. Mine? I took the week off work to do nothing but follow the tournament

10am - 5pm days for five days straight

[sullen berry]

"Shangai"

[solar trout]

I predded the SHD 3-0 Fuel
But SEOUL WTF

[wide minnow]

At what time encore starts ?

[solar trout]

man tournament pickems are hard as hell

[sullen berry]

In about 2-3 more hours? https://youtu.be/jmU9hIz1Wd4

[wide minnow]

Thx man

[sullen berry]

I'm going to sort out a problem they made real quick and send you a playlist of the matches. They're split up if you're going to be watching them all

[trim shadow]

Match was decided by dps

[lost thicket]

https://i.redd.it/hcon1y6g2oc91.jpg

shock/dragon glad/spark fuel/fusion and dynasty/reign

are the matches I wanna see the most

[sullen berry]

You try showing this to someone who doesn't get esports and tell me if their response is either "tacky" or "looks sick"

[lost thicket]

spitfire/mayhem and outlaws/defiant are like, the answer is kinda clear

[sullen berry]

You never truly know with outlaws, that 1-7% Toronto magically figures out the meta when it's a fight for higher placement is still mathematically possible

[trim shadow]

Rip atlanta

[lost thicket]

after this match

they have a chance

[trim shadow]

No no its rip

[lost thicket]

but yeah atlanta prolly going out 0-2

[lost thicket]

Dynasty were not good against spark

[willow tartan]

ShangAI

[trim shadow]

Brad is gonna fail to prepare this team

Theres a multitude of reasons not to believe in atlanta

[sullen berry]

Mayhem just don't feel anything like their Kickoff Clash potential with sirmajed and rupal, but I see where theyre going with the team dynamics to give him more chances to improve through the year

[trim shadow]

So im basically checked out of the tourney

[sullen berry]

Dynasty vs Reign? Watch ATL make excuses for their performance when Nero / Kai have what it takes to outplay profit / stalk3r

Alas when fits is on, it's probably their GG - hawk can take on smurf but it's so unlikely that they do anything else

[trim shadow]

They showed that against london but its the inconsistenty

[lost thicket]

kai can def match fits

[trim shadow]

All it tells me is not to expect a deep run

[lost thicket]

and nero when doing good can at least compete

if his team is also working

[sullen berry]

Ojee UV is such a great Como coming into OWL

but when you have to put them against the best support duos, it's inconsistent

[frosty patrol]

tfw my midseason madness preds are already fucked

[north relic]

nice seoul pred

[full lichen]

Ngl I'm scared for Florida

[lost thicket]

s9mmjou is really good

[devout path]

Wow

Almost as if

I was correct

Once again

About spark

And shy

And alphayi

Being the goats

Maybe

People should start believing the truth

#sparksweep

[lost thicket]

Shy/AlphaYi good

legit every dps this season is good

APAC n NA now

[sullen berry]

I see absolutely no hot takes on this ss, this is just a safe bracket turning turning mid.

Though have your thoughts changed for shock vs dragons later today?

[balmy wolf]

holy shit when was the last time fuel played fusion

[devout path]

2020

[north relic]

if you thought spark were better than seoul before the match

you are dumb imo

[devout path]

Who got swept

?

[north relic]

seoul literally 3-0'd spark in the qualifiers

[devout path]

Who got swept

?

[north relic]

your take was just spark hopium

and you claim you are genius

[devout path]

Who

Got

Swept

[north relic]

spark in the qualifiers like i said

[sullen berry]

Guys it's a very simple question

[devout path]

Who got swept lsd

[sullen berry]

Was it S E U L

[north relic]

i just said it

[devout path]

No you didn’t

[north relic]

basic reading comphresion would allow you to see that

[devout path]

Who just got swept

?

There was three sweeps

Can you name them all?

[sullen berry]

For many teams still in APAC that didn't qualify its been since late 2019

[north relic]

mayhem houston fuel got swept

as well as defiant

[devout path]

Keep coping

It was Houston fuel and SEOUL

SEOUL got SWEPT by SPARK

[balmy wolf]

cope 🤓

[cunning patrol]

Spark are still awful

[devout path]

Spark are the GOATS

[north relic]

lets speak if spark beat glads

[devout path]

Shock 2019 stand no chance

Shock 2020 whomegalul

NYXL 2018 suck

Shanghai 2021 Mickey Mouse season

Spark 2022 goats

[balmy wolf]

nyxl didn’t even win in 2018

it was london

[devout path]

Don’t even TRY

To tell me

That London were better than nyxl

[raw ermine]

God dammit seoul

Broke my match streak

[lost thicket]

Edison/AlphaYi were on the same team

n Fielder

I like finding old contenders team

they can have fucking shy/krystal/gaga/lateyoung/izayaki/ and then a random ass ms

and end up like

6th

oh also bianca/yaki

on a team

[balmy wolf]

dallas need to get rid of edison tbh

[lost thicket]

"Edison is a god, would love to see him play at OWL"
"How does Edison play Widowmaker like this? He is a God of Overwatch. I love his playing so much T^T... "

it's in a match where edison popped off on widow a lot

[lost thicket]

edison is their best hitscan

[balmy wolf]

I mean next season

they need to drop all their dps besides sp9rk1e maybe

[lost thicket]

sparkle/doha is good base

they need some GOOD hitscan

edison has a great reaper

but

not much of anything else

so get someone like mn3 or someone from kr tenders

[balmy wolf]

mn3 would absolutely fuck on Dallas

[north relic]

someone is a main tank

don’t want him on HS

[lost thicket]

yessir

true true someone is a mt not hitscan

[north relic]

also fuel did exactly what you said

Got a hs from kr contenders

[lost thicket]

but would still be better then guriyo

[balmy wolf]

remember when everyone though dallas would sign proper

[lost thicket]

I meant an established talent like man

[balmy wolf]

he was their missing piece and they passed on him

[lost thicket]

Sparkle/Proper would be too sick

also dallas could have gotten Mer1t

next season ig

[north relic]

Just get xzi

[lost thicket]

pay mayhem

[balmy wolf]

trade?

les go

[lost thicket]

who'd they give

money or like edison

[devout path]

Idk why they dropped xzi

Should’ve kept him so you can guarantee him when he comes back

[full lichen]

https://twitter.com/FusionTotorow/status/1549631505063968769?t=Yh45-iSsPtYDQWEMxTzTPQ&s=19

Mentally Stable Fusion Fan🐟 | (6-6)🥈 (@FusionTotorow)

Just a reminder before i go to bed that the fuel signed guriyo while ANS, Xzi, and Mer1t were still on the market

ok gn

Twitter · Jul 20, 2022, 5:45 AM

[lost thicket]

probe next year is 18

maybe him idk

they should have gotten Mer1t or ANS

[devout path]

Or diem

[lost thicket]

both are pretty good hitscan on their own teams

[devout path]

Who is still available

[lost thicket]

really diem is LFT

?

[next mesa]

yes

[lost thicket]

like for this season

damn

I want him to play

against ANS on widow, just another 1v1

would be fun

[willow drum]

diem would clap

ans

[north relic]

Guriyo gaps ans

[lost thicket]

L take imo

[next mesa]

i wonder

how much money

bilibili paid tobi

to bench fits

[willow drum]

good take

[willow drum]

agreed

[frosty patrol]

The hot takes were lower bracket + finals

also shock shanghai was an upset pred

I have shanghai winning it all after losing to sf shock

[devout path]

I have spark winning it all

Cuz that’s what they do

[hot onyx]

I agree completely

[willow drum]

sans how about we reach

the gentleman's agreement

if mn3 and heesang were on dallas

dallas wins the title

dallas wins everything

[hot onyx]

Oh fuck yes without shadow of a doubt

[willow drum]

it is sad

[hot onyx]

Why on earth would I disagree

[willow drum]

because mn3 is staying on fusion

[willow tartan]

and shanghai dragons were not a team

[hot onyx]

Yes but if MN3 went to Dallas with Heesang or ZEST that team wins multiple titles

[willow drum]

hanbin > void (dva 1 trick btw)
fearless = fate (was a good player)
heesang > fleta (the fraud mvp)
mn3 < lip (lip still number 1 hs)
fielder > izayaki (washed up since 2021)
chiyo = feedjaegon (nothing more to be said)

[willow tartan]

you are weird

[willow drum]

i dont think any of that is a hot take

tbh

[willow tartan]

yeah you are definitely weird

[willow drum]

they are not hot takes

fleta is a fraud

[hot onyx]

Yeah I’d say Lip >= MN3

[balmy wolf]

real and true

[willow drum]

there is literally

nothing wronng

with that comparison

lmao

[next mesa]

ljg

is better than chiyo

imo

chiyo has not been that good

[hot onyx]

Mechanically yes

[next mesa]

ljg is a goat

[hot onyx]

Gamesense fuck no

[tropic herald]

Still will get 3-0ed

[willow drum]

if ljg feeds

as often as he has had

[hot onyx]

FeedJaeFraud does not gap ChiYo

[willow drum]

then no

[sullen berry]

for once this is not a delusional, spicy take

[willow drum]

fine i will put them

at equal

still does not account for dallas

being da better team

[hot onyx]

Excuse you

[willow drum]

dallas have no dps

[tropic herald]

Bro the one map he was in he had the third most final blows in the map 😭😭😭😭

[devout path]

My tales are never delusional?

[sullen berry]

this is just a spicy take but it takes like it's lacking sans spark propaganda

[willow drum]

because dallas dps

mechanics

REALLY BAD

liek REALLY REALLY bad

[sullen berry]

sorry only recently did we learn of memecius brainrot this week

[willow drum]

you predicted london to beat shock?

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/excitingcontent/status/1549590931514482689?s=21&t=T0XjcYhrP4ZS8eoFSt3r5w

excitingcontent (@excitingcontent)

leejaeyawn.png

Twitter · Jul 20, 2022, 3:04 AM

[hot onyx]

Guxue redemption arc is real and true

[devout path]

#londonsweep

[willow drum]

they in fact

[hot onyx]

Everyone with a brain did

[willow drum]

did not sweep

[willow drum]

?

I did not

and I was

rewarded

[devout path]

Cuz ur delusional

[willow drum]

for it

[devout path]

?

?

[willow drum]

??

???

shock beat london hello

[devout path]

Shock winning was an upset

[willow drum]

sure

[tropic herald]

This man

[willow drum]

WHO

[tropic herald]

Idk

[willow tartan]

hellfire can't read

[tropic herald]

Turns out he beat Dallas

[willow drum]

i can read

i just dont think

he is a good player

thats all

[willow tartan]

how does that have anything to do with his identity

[willow drum]

because he is

irrelevant

bebe is irellevant

[willow drum]

coach moon

very talented!

[willow tartan]

I think you just cannot read

[willow drum]

memeicus

you are very biased

for the shanghai dragons

so i hope that you can agree with me

that bebe is a nobody

[willow tartan]

I'm very biased for the Shanghai Dragons but the dragons are so good that I'm correct anyways.

[devout path]

Shanghai suck

[willow drum]

but knowing you i doubt it

[willow drum]

very true

it will be

spark v glads

[tropic herald]

A Nobody who won two maps against DallASS

[willow drum]

in the finals

[willow drum]

not an accomplishment btw

[tropic herald]

Glads drew with Houston

[willow drum]

so then

spark v shock

[tropic herald]

That was their first fatal flaw

[willow drum]

imho

[willow tartan]

Apac finals

[willow drum]

london is the 3rd best

NA team

[willow drum]

good doomfist comp

[tropic herald]

Real and true

[willow drum]

surely it wont get punished by teams with actual dps players

[hot onyx]

They called me a mad man @devout path

[willow drum]

you are mad

reign is too high

[frosty patrol]

@hot onyx @sullen berry @ anyone else want to hop on the mic and discuss some hot takes

[hot onyx]

Reign is 9th

[frosty patrol]

sorry mr anyone

did not mean to ping you

[willow tartan]

maybe he has some hot takes

[tropic herald]

Reign sux

[sullen berry]

he who has hot takes is based

[tropic herald]

[hot onyx]

I assumed 9th was generous given their performance last season and the downgrades made weren’t the absolute worst

[sullen berry]

anyone with unanticipated lower bracket runs and can't justify it are the true pickem kings/queens/thems

@frosty patroljust realised I'm walking in an area without wi-fi, will be on in 5

[frosty patrol]

ight

@hot onyx you?

[sullen berry]

bet

[tropic herald]

On hoot

Philly is the favorite

For their match today

[hot onyx]

Possibly, my nan is sending an email then I can ajourn to my laptop

(She is saddened by the Dallas result)

(Don’t tell her this is exactly what I predded)

[frosty patrol]

isn't sparky her favorite player

[hot onyx]

Carpe Sparky “the french guy” Pelican Handbin Fearless Fielder Alarm and Kevster are among her favourites

[frosty patrol]

my dad favors jjanggu, piggy, and danteh overwhelmingly

also happy

[hot onyx]

Oh and Shu

[frosty patrol]

does she know alarm died

[hot onyx]

Yes

[tropic herald]

[split flume]

[tropic herald]

@split flume did you see Seoul

[split flume]

yeah

i wasn't surprised

[hot onyx]

Neither was I tbh

[next mesa]

me neither tbh

[tropic herald]

Tobi was paid off by BiliBili to bench Fits

[split flume]

real

[hot onyx]

Oh and she has grown admiration for MN3 and ZEST for doing their best to pull the dead weight of “Bellyass”

[next mesa]

i agree

just saying

if we had jjonak

easily best team in the league

just saying

[split flume]

seoul has been downwards trend since their omega close game against valiant

[hot onyx]

Nah you don’t have AlphaYi

[split flume]

where profit got outplayed by ezhan

[willow drum]

shut up superich is hella

overrated

[frosty patrol]

unfortunately seoul with jjonak are 2nd

behind charge

[willow drum]

?

[hot onyx]

I agree, a stage title is one hell of a downward trend

[split flume]

yeah because they won the KC after their close game against valiant

you have an adept understanding of the passage of time

[willow drum]

smurf > guxue
fits = shy (usually)
alphayi > profit
vindaim > superich
jjonka > irony

[frosty patrol]

cr0ng mt =< smurf mt
cr0ng ot >>>>> smurf ot
jimmy = fits
apr1ta >>>>> stalk3r/fits
choisehwan > profit
xerneas >> vindaim
1987 >>> creative

[willow drum]

seoul beats spark

[next mesa]

not surprising

[hot onyx]

It’s not like they were Fusion levels of inconsistent or gatekeepers prior to that

[next mesa]

valiant is a top 4 team

[willow drum]

you are off the goop

[next mesa]

in the APAC region

[willow drum]

if you think cr0ng mt

is anywhere near

smurf mt

imho

[frosty patrol]

(I am trolling)

[willow drum]

good

[hot onyx]

Cr0ng ot though

I can feel an ot meta in the goop for SS

[next mesa]

how did u get half wrong

sadge

[willow drum]

?

[next mesa]

wait

i misread

only thing wrong is fits >>> shy

otherwise we're good

[hot onyx]

There is like three > between Vindaim and Superich

[hot onyx]

That is disrespect to Shy after he dominated ur bum ass team

[willow drum]

?

[frosty patrol]

guxue <<< smurf
bernar/lige > smurf ot
shy >= fits (flexibility diff)
alphayi > profit
superich << vindaim
irony < jjonak

[split flume]

seoul's back line was made out of wet tissue paper today

[hot onyx]

Mad cause bad ig

[next mesa]

Shy is a fraud player

[willow drum]

cope

[cunning patrol]

Fits is way better

On every hs

[willow drum]

your team lost

[cunning patrol]

And sombra

[willow drum]

to the catgirl

[frosty patrol]

shy is better on ashe cass echo sojourn

[willow drum]

shy

[frosty patrol]

imo

[willow drum]

guess my top 3 teams

[cunning patrol]

Shy cree gets bodied by fits

[frosty patrol]

I am all in on #shymvp

[willow drum]

(favorites)

[frosty patrol]

and #alphayiroty

[next mesa]

Jazzy

[willow drum]

it is 1 na team 2 apac team

[next mesa]

Coming in clutch

To speak the truth

[frosty patrol]

shock chengdu spark

[willow drum]

you got 2

correct

[frosty patrol]

which isn't correct

[willow drum]

spark

[next mesa]

Fits has a better sojourn

[frosty patrol]

shock chengdu valiant

[next mesa]

Tobi paid off coach

[willow drum]

it is shock chengdu guangzhou

[next mesa]

Put stalker in

[frosty patrol]

GUANGZHOU FAN

BASED

PART OF THE CREW

[cunning patrol]

Shy sombra widow soldier cree widow are all way worse than fits

[willow drum]

yes

[split flume]

aprita will clear the league (real)

[willow drum]

i was a supporter in 2020

in 2021 i liked chengdu more instead

but now i have accepted

i can cheer for both

XERNEAS SEASON BABY

[frosty patrol]

and now you also like shock ( 🤮 )

[willow drum]

?

nothing wrong

with that

[frosty patrol]

There is

a lot

[willow drum]

it is very unlucky tbh that beijing does not have an owl team

[split flume]

if you havent cheered for shock since 2018 i dont want to hear it

[frosty patrol]

wrong with that

[split flume]

(i am gatekeeping)

[frosty patrol]

2018 shock supporting is based

but if you started in 2019 or after

fuck off

[willow drum]

okay being a shock fan is not innately bad

[frosty patrol]

awful human being

[split flume]

i am almost an OG shock fan

[willow drum]

however

if you have no eyes

and are a shock fan that is very bad

[split flume]

i started cheering for them a little before super became of age iirc

[willow drum]

i cheered for shock because

some of my family

live in SF

(they are very rich)

(how the fuck do you afford houses in SF)

[split flume]

i cheered for shock because super is 1 of 2 streamers that actually makes me laugh every time i watch them

[frosty patrol]

along with kai?

funniest man alive

[split flume]

[frosty patrol]

so emotional

[split flume]

i think kai laughed more in their loss against london than any other time during the season

[astral epoch]

I’m confused if you look on the app it says the game they are showing rn already happened

[fathom igloo]

they do encores of the matches cause some people couldn't watch it

[candid radish]

Now you see some sense

[split edge]

1. get money
2. buy a house
3. go broke
4. fail to pay mortage/rent and get evicted
5. repeat steps 1-4

[willow drum]

very good plan

[cedar oasis]

all shock fans are bad

[cunning patrol]

Bro fits was owning on sojourn too @next mesa

I’m watching the game and he’s owning

[fiery hill]

get dabbed on

[next mesa]

Yeah

I saw too

[willow drum]

?

who

[fiery hill]

Reiner dabbed on the Outlaws tracer lmao

the game just drew LOL

[tidal marsh]

Shock fans

[sullen berry]

seethe - XRAY on GZ academy

[willow drum]

this better

[sullen berry]

mine has the contenders trophy

shy was airbrushed with the help of professionals before streaming live on bilibili

[next mesa]

💀

[balmy wolf]

i didnt watch the seoul game but considering they got swept is it possible atlanta beat them

or was it just that spark played amazingly

that seoul lost

[tiny pollen]

alpha yi has the roty juice

[willow drum]

disagree

hadi is roty

if u think otherwise

u are wrong

[balmy wolf]

i disagree

hadi is great player but he isnt having as much individual impact imo

i think london is winning cause their teamwork and strategy is amazing as opposed to raw talent

[willow drum]

hadi is roty

[balmy wolf]

okay

[stuck radish]

weird way to spell danteh

[balmy wolf]

thats just wrong

[willow drum]

hadi will win

[balmy wolf]

well

we can confirm its not an apac team

cause they never win these

[north relic]

I don’t think region has to do with anything

[willow drum]

hadi will get roty imho

[stuck radish]

Danteh

pioneer of doom

danteh deserves roty

[balmy wolf]

no

he deserves mvp

https://tenor.com/view/adil-rule22-gif-24323980

[full lichen]

I like Spark and Glads TwT

And Mayhem

That are in this tournament

[balmy wolf]

honestly

fuel philly is kinda hard

[full lichen]

That will be a good match, But I was talking about the teams I like

[balmy wolf]

ik

im just saying its hard to pred

like aimgod and fixa vs chiyo and fielder

[full lichen]

Ngl I wanna see Mayhem vs Philly on a day where Mn3 doesn't pop off

[full lichen]

Chiyo and Fielder win

[balmy wolf]

i think philly dps > fuel but fearless > philly tanks

[full lichen]

Philly Dps booms but Dallas have a bit better supports and tanks

[balmy wolf]

i still think philly take a 3-1

i just feel like their roster is more stable

in terms of skill

all of their players can do good

but i havent seen fuel dps do good at all this stage

[sullen berry]

man

I was really hoping the encores didn't just struggle to go to the next match but they do

[tropic herald]

@split flume

[split flume]

NUS

[tropic herald]

Last time London beat Shock they have NUS

Coincidence

I think not

[next mesa]

they had the goat

profit

[split edge]

losers rounds today right?

[balmy wolf]

i think

if i mute the tab on the encore do i still get points

as opposed to muting the stream itselfd

[tiny pollen]

yea

[balmy wolf]

kk ty

[hot onyx]

"a bit" is an understatement

top 5 > bottom 5 imo

[fiery hill]

Literally what is the point in watching push once one team gets checkpoint

[candid radish]

I like how the encore doesn't wait

I get that it's scheduled like but

[fiery hill]

The way push balances itself is that the winning team is further from the objective

But then checkpoints reset that for the winning team??

You might as well have the endpoints moved to where the checkpoints are

Because you’re just not winning if the already winning team gets forward spawns

[willow drum]

?

[tiny pollen]

forward spawns go away after bot crosses mid point

[fiery hill]

Unless it’s already close

[candid radish]

By the time Spitfire shocks done the dragons and fuel are last point on Oasis

[fiery hill]

Push is just really shit to watch honestly

[willow drum]

its not

maybe to play

but its very fun to watch

unless your team is on the losing side

then ig not fun 2 watch but

from a neutral unbiased standpoint

it is exciting sometimes

[fiery hill]

People think it’s fun to watch unless you release all these near-clutches never actually happen because of how the gamemode works

It’s always fun to watch your team win
Watching them win in push is the least fun

[willow drum]

I personally think

2cp w as the worst to watch

maybe i'll change my opinion

in 2 or so years

[fiery hill]

The one thing I like about push is that it thematically fits really well

The UI, robot and barrier all look like they could’ve been a part of the game since day one

But that’s all I like

[next mesa]

push is such an ass mode

2cp clears imo

i miss hanamura

[balmy wolf]

agreed

i wish they just changed 2cp a bit

[tropic herald]

[balmy wolf]

i dont like push

and i miss 2cp maps

but its whatever

[tropic herald]

i think push needs maps to be better

[balmy wolf]

that too

i hate the push maps

[tropic herald]

but the mode will be infinitely more interesting

[balmy wolf]

i personally dont like how you win

like i enjoy pushing it as far as possible and capping

and then defending

as opposed to switching back and forth all the time

[tropic herald]

even just the minor change of 2 minutes made it a better spectator sport bc it actually ends early sometimes

[north relic]

imo

2cp was fun to watch

absolute dogshit to play

[tropic herald]

2cp made games longer than they needed to be

i do NOT need to see vancouver play for a draw on 2cp

[next mesa]

push is a mickey mouse gamemode

very steamrolly too

[tropic herald]

the most annoyances i have with the gamemode at this point are map specific things

[north relic]

rome

fucking sucks

[stuck radish]

toronto is a good map but colosseo is mid

the gamemode itself is good imo

[earnest leaf]

I do not miss 2cp at all

[trim shadow]

^

[balmy wolf]

i do

[earnest leaf]

No more team getting held but winning last fight to extend the map by 3 minutes

[balmy wolf]

atlanta was good at it

[willow drum]

atl win push

[trim shadow]

2cp is infinitely better then trying to push through 1 choke route to get onto point

[balmy wolf]

atlanta was good cause funny cheap strats

[willow drum]

challenge

[balmy wolf]

so 2cp is good

[trim shadow]

Yes push needs a touch up but

Its a step

[balmy wolf]

idk what your talking about hawk rein is the scariest thing to ever touch LAN

owl limited us to only play it on push cause it was too strong

(fact checked)

[willow drum]

https://twitter.com/washjustice/status/1549521767693271040

Washington Justice (@washjustice)

Only @OW_Kalios saw the Spark win coming yesterday...but is it going to work out for him again today? Whose predictions look most based today?

#JusticeIsServed

Twitter · Jul 19, 2022, 10:29 PM

how are decay and happy

so fucking shit

at predictions

only Kalios is good at preds

[sullen berry]

Do you want shitty contenders predictions?

[candid radish]

I need a team to get a Jersey for

[candid radish]

Pixie has a lovely moustache

[fiery hill]

who tf does this caster keep calling sparkr

[twin bloom]

Just buy a house

Imo

[sullen berry]

He also deserves to be brought up full time to OWL, but the people aren't ready for him

[sullen berry]

#general-discussion message

[north relic]

only one with perfect preds is kalios (former nyxl player)

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/BadPachimari/status/1549802226448752640

Bad Pachimari (@BadPachimari)

Spitfire 3 - 0 Mayhem
Outlaws 3 - 2 Defiant
Fusion 3 - 1 Dallas I believe.
Dynasty 3 - 1 Reign

Likes

451

Twitter · Jul 20, 2022, 5:03 PM

based pachimarchi

[next mesa]

fusion fans assuring eachother everything will be okay

:prayge:

[north relic]

imo defiant win

[hot onyx]

I will be assuring them that they cannot win off the back of 2.5 good players

[hot onyx]

“Let me blow a quick raspberry blows raspberry that’s what I think of Talons performance tonight”

[next mesa]

whos the .5 haha

[hot onyx]

Carpe is .4, Fury is .09 and Aimgod on zen is .01

[sullen berry]

Man do i miss Pixie's hybird shout/colour casting

his return in contenders korea could not come soon enough

since his bf avrl is still casting with his current love achilios

[next mesa]

fair fair

[hot onyx]

Actually Carpe and Fury are .5, Aimgod on zen is .25, and FiXa and Belosrea are -1.5 each

[candid radish]

Is the spitfire game on first

[balmy wolf]

what is the absolute best hypothetical dps duo

[frosty patrol]

lip proper if we're aiming for coverage

[balmy wolf]

Pelican and Kai

[cunning patrol]

Carpe is the 2nd best player on the team

[balmy wolf]

Factual

I had kevster and uhh

probably Lip

[earnest leaf]

Basically take one of proper/kevster/leave with a flexible HS player

and bam you have a busted dps line

[twin bloom]

Happy pelican kevster

Imo

[balmy wolf]

kevster kai vs lip proper

[cunning patrol]

Lip proper demolishes that

[cunning patrol]

This is awful for 3 players

[twin bloom]

It is not by any metric

Happy is a very flexible

[north relic]

its lip kevster

[twin bloom]

Player

[cunning patrol]

U don’t need flexible

If u have 2 fdps players

[twin bloom]

It makes sense

Imo

[cunning patrol]

It doesn’t

Imo

[twin bloom]

Happy for long range HS

Kevin for tracer

Pelican for echo and stuff

[cunning patrol]

Reducing kevster to a tracer otp would be the worst thing to happen in esports history

[north relic]

lip gaps that fraud unfortunately

[cunning patrol]

I think it’s glister fleta finale @twin bloom

[twin bloom]

Ok he would be the starter flex damage player

[cunning patrol]

What do u think

[twin bloom]

And pelican

Is da s9mm

Of da team

Imo

[cunning patrol]

Having 3 players as a dps rotation is overrated unless one of them is a widow otp

Imo

[twin bloom]

It isn't

[cunning patrol]

How

[earnest leaf]

most teams should have 3 unless they have the two of like 3-4 total hyperflexes

[twin bloom]

Having a dps player that perma starts and 2 players that rotate is good

For a dps rotation

[cunning patrol]

Agree

[earnest leaf]

hard carry dps that can play tracer always in, then a flex dps player, then a hitscan player

[cunning patrol]

And one of those players should be a widow otp

Imo

[twin bloom]

Ok so happy?

Lol

[cunning patrol]

I never said

Ur list was wrong

Imo

My statement was broad

[twin bloom]

O

K

[cunning patrol]

If u don’t have a hyperflex dps player u should have 2 HS

Imo

[twin bloom]

Who are those players

Actually imagine if ATL had kevin

Instead of nero or venom

And potentially had kai kevin speedily

Best western dps line ever

Imo

[cunning patrol]

Stop idolizing Europeans

Imo

[north relic]

more like

imagine if kai was on glads

[twin bloom]

Ok

[north relic]

you would have the three good EU players on one team

[twin bloom]

Imagine if ATL had vision

Aspire

And speedily

[cunning patrol]

They already have Vision

Imo

[twin bloom]

Ok

[cunning patrol]

Kai and Vision are the same

He’s going to Dallas

[twin bloom]

Rush complimented his pug team

Because fuel lost a map to em

In a tournament

[cunning patrol]

If Vision learns Korean

He does to Dallas

Imo

[trim shadow]

There a certain euro dps i think atlanta should trisl

Trial*

[twin bloom]

Is it quartz?

[balmy wolf]

who

[twin bloom]

Quarts is the only good eu dps in contenders

Unless you count naga

[trim shadow]

Love

[twin bloom]

LOL

[balmy wolf]

i love atlanta but i dont think we need more dps

[twin bloom]

Dude could not start over asking's washed corpse

Lol

[trim shadow]

? I thought he was fine

A little rough

[balmy wolf]

i think we either need new tanks or need to figure something out with the tanks

i mean

theyre okay

but thats it

[twin bloom]

I am sure he is fine for eu contenders standards

[trim shadow]

Naga is a option but i dont think he can replace anyonr

[twin bloom]

But kai is far better

Lol

[balmy wolf]

Love is someone that i would see a team like toronto or mayhem signing

its a solid player

[twin bloom]

Bro is love even better

Than logix

Lmao

[trim shadow]

I dont think ojee uv is the problem

[balmy wolf]

i mean

i think sometimes

[trim shadow]

Or dps

[balmy wolf]

defintely not

its the tanks

[trim shadow]

I believe its time to point fingers at our tanks

[balmy wolf]

but i dont think they need new tanks

as much as they just need to work stuff out

[twin bloom]

Its not a talent issue imo

Gator hawk on paper gap hadi poko

[balmy wolf]

hawk and gator arent the best tanks in the world but they definitely are or can be A tier

[twin bloom]

Very hard

[balmy wolf]

yeh

[trim shadow]

Well see when they play head to head

[twin bloom]

I think ATLs problem

Is suspicious

Coaching

[balmy wolf]

idk

cause its not like

[trim shadow]

Benbest looked good

[balmy wolf]

bad coaching decisons

[trim shadow]

At points

Still a little rough tho

[balmy wolf]

i think its something with coaching that you dont see

for some reason they have all the skill but can only get it to work sometimes

which is weird

[twin bloom]

Personally i find hawk rein

Against hadi rein

A terrible

Decision

[trim shadow]

Theoretically atlanta should have either won a tourney or gone deep by now but brad is failing as usual

[balmy wolf]

i dont think its the worst decision but i think its losing

[twin bloom]

Or ojee on zen

And uv on bap

And not the other way around

[balmy wolf]

but i got my new atlanta glasses

[twin bloom]

Hawks off tanks are all high A imo

[balmy wolf]

now i can see everything in red

[twin bloom]

And his doom has looked solid

[balmy wolf]

agreed

and gator

idk

[twin bloom]

Gator was good ow 1 rein

And orisa

Tolerable wrecking wheel

But ow 2 not his game

Maybe

[balmy wolf]

but gator also has barely been getting practiced so i wanna wait to see him get practice before i place him

i definitely think he is worse than last szn tho

[twin bloom]

Agree

I find it strange

They played gator on monkey

Last stage

[balmy wolf]

?

[twin bloom]

But refuse to play him

[balmy wolf]

thats one of gators heros

[twin bloom]

On rein

[balmy wolf]

oh

yeah

they posted on insta

this stage

they said they saw the drawbacks of having 2 tanks sharing practice time, so they converted to only 1 tank this stage and the rest of the season probably

and it was hawk cause of flexibility

so hawk has been practicing gators heros recently

[cunning patrol]

Reiner

[devout path]

Ur all idiots

[plush grail]

what's a must watch from the past few games??

[cunning patrol]

Should be ashamed of himself

[devout path]

Spark

[cunning patrol]

For not going to ATL

Imo

[balmy wolf]

i mean

[plush grail]

vs?

[balmy wolf]

hes doing better rn

than atl

[devout path]

All spark games

[twin bloom]

I do not think he wanted to be on a team with 3 tanks

[devout path]

They’re all goated

Cuz shy and alphayi r the goats

[cunning patrol]

He would have benched

Gata

[twin bloom]

True

[balmy wolf]

1 hour gamers

[north relic]

shock vs london because the first map is very funny

[trim shadow]

It isnt a problem for houston? Or other teams

[twin bloom]

I think that is a strange take from brad imo

[north relic]

piggy literally learning main tanks

[twin bloom]

Seeing shock outperform them

[north relic]

but i think its a pretty dogshit take

[twin bloom]

With a rotating tankline

[north relic]

sharing practicing time is better than having your tank play a hero they arent comfortable with at a D tier level

[twin bloom]

Agree

Brad just can not coach a bench

Tbh

AtL s3 is my basis

For this claim

[north relic]

did s4 reign have a bench

[twin bloom]

No

Only edison

[north relic]

they also had unter

[twin bloom]

?

Oh

Nvm

I thought you were saying

Unter was a bench player

[trim shadow]

But s3 they did

It was a top 5 team but horribly mismanaged

Even edison was mismanaged

Remember the whole where is edison for a entire stage

[north relic]

what happened to erster

[twin bloom]

Also techinically atl outperformed shock stage 1

[trim shadow]

Oh it was erdtern my bad

[twin bloom]

With a rotating tankline

While shock had only coluge

So brad's take is very strange

[trim shadow]

How does atlanta have pelican edison erster back to back and not have a stage title

Sure supports were average

But hawk gator were at their prime

“””

[north relic]

iris masaa not that bad imo

[twin bloom]

No but masaa dogman

[north relic]

masaa doesnt need to be that good to win a stage title

[twin bloom]

Was

Imo

[trim shadow]

I was talking about s3 lol

S4 was no excuse

[twin bloom]

Imo their best chance to win was MM

[trim shadow]

What was is it dogman massa fire iris?

HOW BRAD

[twin bloom]

The meta was hard rush

[north relic]

s3?

[twin bloom]

S4

[north relic]

wasnt MM won on dive though

[balmy wolf]

im not a coach

thats just what he said

[twin bloom]

Fuel ran sym rush?

And won

[plush grail]

what happens

[earnest leaf]

Reign rely too heavily on hawk doom or kai carrying

[north relic]

shock c9 like 3 times

and c9 to lose the map

[plush grail]

@north relicwasnt there a game where guriyo and edison played like ass

which one is that

i saw it mentioned on r/ow

[north relic]

are you expecting me to name every fuel game

[plush grail]

nah the recent one

from the tournament

[tepid ibex]

Dallas Shanghai?

[north relic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCqjZodStVo

[plush grail]

i enjoy watching teams that dropped onigod suffer

[trim shadow]

Same

Honestly if atlanta went with onigod over nero maybe wouldve been in a better spot

[plush grail]

stop trolling

[willow drum]

ur wrong

[trim shadow]

“Mightve”

[willow drum]

onigod is hs

[trim shadow]

Read

[plush grail]

do u legit think onigod > nero?

isn't nero way above onigod

[trim shadow]

READ

I said nothing about whos better

[plush grail]

could

[trim shadow]

I simply implied they maybe would be better off

[plush grail]

do u legit think onigod could be better

[twin bloom]

Bro what

They play diff roles

[trim shadow]

Who fuckin knows if they wouldnt be

[twin bloom]

Lol

Onigod was still an incredibly underrated player

Who should still be in owl

But age gap

[willow drum]

i think if shock went with onigod instead of proper they would be in a betfer place

[plush grail]

onigod is one of the better players from EU and has always been a playmaker on his teams but never got a chance on a good team

[twin bloom]

I agree with "chaan"

[plush grail]

he played for shitshow dallas and first year budget paris

he had to deal with the decay bench situation and remote play from europe

give homie a real chance

[tropic herald]

Big mistake

[plush grail]

stfu hugo

[tropic herald]

He is a Paris fan

[plush grail]

i legit have your exact coordinates on my monitor rn

[willow drum]

so does he

[trim shadow]

Remote play ruined so many career’s

[willow drum]

he knows his coords

u dont have 2 tell

him

[twin bloom]

I disagree with him

99%

Of the time

[tropic herald]

Good idea

[plush grail]

you are just racist

[tropic herald]

Is Dutch a race

[hot onyx]

You are disliked because your personality is insufferable not because I’m salty that I can’t go back to the good old days where my ancestors used to auction your ancestors

[willow drum]

theyre an ethnic group

sans do u know what precedence is

or empathy

[tropic herald]

No