esports-discussion

[balmy wolf]

or is it 0 points

[hot onyx]

Shanghai is 5th seed

bozo

[north relic]

what is spark

[hot onyx]

6th

[balmy wolf]

6f

[north relic]

bullshit

imo

[hot onyx]

league points

[north relic]

are the same

[hot onyx]

then there will be some sort of tiebreaker bullshit

hidden within the depths of the rulebook

[north relic]

isnt map diff

first tiebreaker

[balmy wolf]

no

[hot onyx]

it should be but there might be more bullshit

[balmy wolf]

points not the same

dragons made it to top 3 kickoff clash

they get 1 extra

spark went to kc so they got 1 point from that

[north relic]

that is so dumb

[balmy wolf]

shd went to kc and placed 3rd they get 2points

[north relic]

that they dont display it

[balmy wolf]

yah

cause shock is 12-0 and its saying they only have 13 points

wait not shock

wrong team

im 5head

i forgot they did bad :)

but yeah

[north relic]

when is anniversary vol 3

i want to finish my collection

however im never going to finish doom reaper or bap

[balmy wolf]

probably a week

summer games is usually end of july

[cerulean granite]

i love the blue

[north relic]

wait why is fate on zarya

[balmy wolf]

Summer Games 2019 July 16 August 5
Summer Games 2020 August 4 August 25
Summer Games 2021 July 20 August 10

so

any day now i assume

[willow tartan]

cuz they also wanna play the monk e on this map

[north relic]

i take void monkey and zarya over fate

[willow tartan]

they play ball 3rd as well

[balmy wolf]

updates are always tuesday

so

the 26th?

if i had to guess

[tiny pollen]

in 30 min

[balmy wolf]

wdym

[willow drum]

watching that

is

soo sooo sosoo

painful

[tropic herald]

I KEEP TRYING TO PING THINGS

[willow tartan]

L

[balmy wolf]

Wow I'm really excited to watch OWL play on a game I can't access to again

[hot onyx]

mf accusing me of scapegoating after Bellyass shattered a ghost twice and went on multiple adventures during team fights as ball

[willow tartan]

wow very cool

[balmy wolf]

I'm excited for shock vs london though

[hot onyx]

Fusion fans really will not take negative criticism for any of their players

it's like watching me defend Hotba in 2021

in third person

[willow tartan]

sans name 1 bad thing about zest

[frosty patrol]

his gameplay

[hot onyx]

he's not as good at ana while using the echo duplicate than Fleta

[frosty patrol]

unfortunately zest is cleared by valentine

[willow tartan]

very true

[hot onyx]

showing true flexibility issues

[willow tartan]

alphayi needs to stop playing genji

[hot onyx]

granted his tracer echo genji pharah and mei are top tier but he needs more ana practise

otherwise he'll never be above bottom 5

in australian

contenders

[cunning patrol]

Zest top tier tracer 💀

[willow drum]

💀

fusions biggest dps problem

is their tracer player

imho

[next mesa]

zesty boy

[hot onyx]

ok hellfire you need some real takes here as well or else you will lose credibility

[willow drum]

no no no i meant

from their dps line

[willow tartan]

real take: malaysia sucks

[willow drum]

very based

malaysia is ass

[hot onyx]

ZEST tracer is not bad

idk where that narrative came from

[devout path]

Zest goated

[full lichen]

I just realized last night, Heesu is probably gonna retire and then Toronto are gonna drop Although and Finale, so I think next year Toronto's Dps line will be Arche and Heesang

[devout path]

Not as goated as alphayi

[willow drum]

no

toronto

will not get

[willow tartan]

what makes u think heesu will retire

[willow drum]

arche

or heesang

[hot onyx]

who the fuck is arche

[willow drum]

if heesang goes to toronto

i will cry

he cant

no no no no

stop

[full lichen]

Why would Toronto not get Arche?

[willow drum]

ur making me upset

[next mesa]

scrache these balls

[willow drum]

good one man!

you're so funny!

[full lichen]

That's really clever ngl

[willow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-emotes-laugh-smile-king-gif-14309345

[hot onyx]

nah Toronto signs MN3 ZEST and Clestyn while Fusion replace the dps line with Develop and Ado

[next mesa]

heesang lip dps line

[willow drum]

no no no

td cant ruin 2 more players

i cnat i cant

FUCK U TORONTO

there is no way a team with muze chorong twilight heesu

is not doing better than this rn

[willow drum]

very goated

[next mesa]

who would win

heesang lip

or proper pelican

[willow tartan]

LIP carries

proper pelican get demolished in any hitscan meta

[full lichen]

They should've taken one map from Shanghai

Just from seeing the players

[willow drum]

i think

heesang lip

is better

because the gap between heesang pelican on fdps

is much less than gap

between lip and proper

on hs

[full lichen]

Ngl I can't wait for Bliss to get into OWL, I hope Florida pick him up, they REALLY need him

[willow drum]

fairer comparison is probably like Fits Proper vs HeeSang Lip

[willow drum]

they do not

[next mesa]

proper

is a hyperflex

heesang

[hot onyx]

if TD has MN3 ZEST Clestyn MuZe CH0R0NG and Twilight and fails again the org is cursed

[next mesa]

is a flex

[willow drum]

well yes but

okay

proper peli wins

on 2x fdps

and loses on everything else

[full lichen]

They have Rupal and SirMajed, fire Rupal and keep Majed as a bouble fs backup and hire Bliss

[willow drum]

If you're Bliss you want to actually have a career in the OWL. You know Shock is missing a MS player, you know that MS is a relatively lobby filler role. You're on the mf academy team for the Shock and it's been established mayhem is probably a lower budget team.

Bliss also probably wants to play wth max and heesang again

and those 3 will hopefully go to the parent team

if that makes sense

https://tenor.com/view/amen-gif-23345354

me explaining how shock will pick up o2 talent and ignore na fuckers

(yet crusty will keep these na players for no reason)

[next mesa]

crusty lieks to be quirky

he thinks mix rosters r meta

[willow tartan]

it makes sense in some capacity

[willow drum]

okay yes

[willow tartan]

mixed roster means that if south korea is ever in a war and your players are recalled to military service

[willow drum]

sometimes it makes sense

[willow tartan]

you still have players

[willow drum]

when some of the NA talent

is better than the KR talent

i can understand mixed

so like 2019 2020

it worked very well

[willow tartan]

i would like

[willow drum]

HOPEFULLY

shock fails

this year

[willow tartan]

for shock to pick up

chinese talent

[willow drum]

thats impossible

[willow tartan]

why

[willow drum]

sadly no western team

will pick up cn talent

[willow tartan]

why

[willow drum]

it imo is a shame

[willow drum]

because apr1ta

has not been picked up

after all this tiem

[willow tartan]

hes on the charge

[willow drum]

and neither has xerneas

[willow drum]

was

[willow tartan]

?

[willow drum]

my bad

he was like

fa

for a very long time

before announced to up

if shock who are

[willow tartan]

charge promod their players

[willow drum]

actively missing a MS

do not sign xerneas

[willow tartan]

have u considered the fact

[willow drum]

(one of best in da business)

[willow tartan]

that it would be impossible for them to get a visa

in 2 weeks

[willow drum]

now that I think about it

you are correct

but it is still

a good build up

for next season

or whenever

it is like the speedily situation

if that makes sense

[willow tartan]

yeah but have you also considered the fact that shock dont care they dont have a main support?

they want to run viol2t ms

[willow drum]

well

we do not know

the situations given

[willow tartan]

we do know

[willow drum]

to the coaching staff

how

[willow tartan]

if they wanted an MS they would have signed one

[willow drum]

literally when did they say

[willow tartan]

they had like 17 million years of off season

[willow drum]

they dont care they dont have a ms

[willow tartan]

to do it

[willow drum]

how many good

MS are there

that were not signed

[willow tartan]

sans knows all about it

[willow drum]

personally

sanguinar

is a good shout

[willow tartan]

yes

[willow drum]

but i think that

2020 bliss

was better than him

this is some copium but

[willow tartan]

and i think that you dont need a good main support player

[willow drum]

maybe shock did not want to take sanguinar

[willow tartan]

to be better than viol2t ms

so

[willow drum]

well it is not "better" or not

it's not really that

it's probably more up to "value"

per say

cause i dont think shock has historically

spent a lot for players?

i also think that MS as a role

has much less impact

than other roles

especially tank

[tribal oak]

anyone doing scrims

[next mesa]

scrim these scrotums

[willow tartan]

dont be rude

[hot onyx]

i like this new levy

[hot onyx]

i know that Sanguinar and Hyunjae weren't signed but FiXa and Superich were

[worn falcon]

no toronto reverse sweep

sad

[full lichen]

It does

[willow drum]

MS players look good when their team look good

MS players look bad when their team look bad

Bliss looked good when Gen G was not the best

If he goes to a top 3 NA team

he will probably look good

[full lichen]

But Bliss replacing Anamo sounds really good too

From a Florida fan

[willow drum]

i mean

yes but

its not a good career

decisopm

[full lichen]

I mean, if Florida get a better Flex support it could

Teach Majed to die less and he'll be a pretty good Flex support

[willow drum]

its not

a good career

if you can find an opportunity on shock

why would you go to mayhem

even if mayhem payed more

from a career decision

(not money wise)

that is better

[twin bloom]

Bliss will go to titans

Imo

And heesang will go to spark

Imo

[willow drum]

weird

theory

[twin bloom]

Its not

[willow drum]

dont u have

alphayi?

[cunning patrol]

Ur an idiot

@twin bloom

[twin bloom]

Why

@cunning patrol Titans wil end the season 10-14

[cunning patrol]

They will not

Imo

[twin bloom]

And attract high profile free agents

Like

Bliss

[cunning patrol]

They are not winning a match

Imo

[twin bloom]

They almost did 2 times

Imo

[cunning patrol]

Agree

[twin bloom]

In fact they should have won

One of those

[cunning patrol]

But those chances have withered since

Imo

[final musk]

I mean, Titans have Dpei.

... there is hope

[twin bloom]

Bliss skairipa

Is a very good backline

Imo

Skai will be good without masaa

Holding him back

[final musk]

lolmasaa

i've never seen someone look so straight up pained while playing this game.

like, he's support samito in OWL.

[cunning patrol]

Odd

Copium

[frosty patrol]

Bliss Aztac

is much better

[willow drum]

bliss finn

clears

[paper totem]

Can someone explain why zen bap is run with ball

Isn’t zen brig more standard

[willow tartan]

cause zen is good at healing and bap is op

but also play brig

[twin bloom]

That won't happen

Imo

[north relic]

https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1549469988385427456?cxt=HHwWgMC8_dav6YArAAAA

Overwatch (@PlayOverwatch)

A midsummer Knight's dream!

Get your team back into the fight with Royal Knight Mercy (Legendary), an all new @Overwatchleague skin.

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wow such a cool skin!

too bad its mercy

[restive nexus]

Okay guys, Midseason champs is coming up. We need a skin for it. let's choose a character no Owl team is ever gonna pick. Okay that narrows it down... They should also have been screwed over with reworks... I Know... A mercy skin! clown

[hot onyx]

Sadly I believe they go 6-18

[cunning patrol]

Zest rawdogs on alphayi for a living

It’s kind of sad

[cunning patrol]

Nobody had that narrative

It’s just probably the worst one on his team

[hot onyx]

ZEST tracer fucks MN3 tracer doggystyle

[cunning patrol]

That has never been true

Sadly

[tiny pollen]

have u seen furys tracer

[frosty patrol]

who hasnt

[tiny pollen]

i wish i could see more of it

[hot onyx]

Sadly it has always been true

ZEST is kind of the best tracer on his team

And it is good

[paper totem]

Fixa popping off

[hot onyx]

One sleep dart doesn’t make up for countless maps lost as a result of feeding and whiffing ults

[final musk]

am i sick for updating liquipedia to show the mice and pads I see in midseason madness?

[hot onyx]

Hotba tracer gaps

[tiny pollen]

b0tba sadly

[willow tartan]

you are based

[full lichen]

Hotshitba

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/crimzo/status/1549480844053684225?s=21&t=x6mTxLkDOBwZWg4CPyBdnA

hat guy (@Crimzo)

5v5 >>>>>>>>> 6v6 for Overwatch.

People were initially worried about the swap but I feel like after months of scrims + 2 betas it's a no-brainer that 5v5 was the correct approach.

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Twitter · Jul 19, 2022, 7:46 PM

I regret playing ow1 today

[balmy wolf]

Back to playing OW1 :(

Give it like a year and we’ll see where 5v5 stands

[full lichen]

https://twitter.com/ballsackEsport/status/1549223752852033538?t=hEa3F_VNQGkxgeAwe8Gcrg&s=19

BallsackEsports ®  (@ballsackEsport)

⚡️BREAKING NEWS⚡️

Xzi has been fined for tampering by the Overwatch League in a fast competitive ruling.

A league source told @ballsackEsport reporters that an investigation is still ongoing for Rush's role

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Twitter · Jul 19, 2022, 2:45 AM

Please no

[paper totem]

5v5 feels way more fun

[violet turret]

Xd

[north relic]

im having fun

everyone is typing L so bad

[cloud latch]

L so bad

[willow drum]

its a troll account

[willow tartan]

no

ballsack esports is a professional organization

[plush grail]

mf talking like everyone had acces to those months of scrims and 2 betas

[willow tartan]

they did???

well i guess shanghai didnt

[plush grail]

im talking about normal players, not owl players

[willow tartan]

cause they had internet problems and couldnt scrim

[north relic]

he is reassuring the doomers

that 5v5 is good

[plush grail]

he's a fucking ana/zen player, ofcourse he loves the fact that there's no off-tank to dive/eat his antis

[willow tartan]

who the fuck cares about normal players the collective IQ of an OW player is the room temperature of the average swedish home

[north relic]

there is also no off tank to save him

[plush grail]

touch grass

[north relic]

as a tank support enthusiast that only played dps in the beta it was definitely a better experience

[plush grail]

the only thing saving crimzo is his weird ability to find teams every year

[willow tartan]

what does touching grass have anything to do with you being stupid

[plush grail]

i fuck grass so im smart

micro biologist plastic enthusiast type beat

[olive glade]

London Goats

[willow tartan]

please dont fuck the grass

[north relic]

he likes the feeling of ants

[plush grail]

homophobic, transphobic, racist AND grassphobic??

[willow tartan]

???

[north relic]

https://tenor.com/view/based-gigachad-chad-gif-23901955

[willow drum]

being grassphobic?

[willow tartan]

how is that grassphobic

i am just asking you to not have sex with it

that's not an irrational fear

that's just me giving you advice

[plush grail]

i truly hope this world ends soon and the only proof of humans is this chat

[willow tartan]

i wonder how they would deconstruct our language

maybe in the future aliens will try to recreate human speech from this chat, sort of like how people reconstructed latin IRL

[north relic]

how does this work

[plush grail]

are u fucking stupid

do u not speak latin

[willow tartan]

most languages follow patterns

[north relic]

no

[willow tartan]

even if u dont know what it means

[thorn night]

everyone who signed up should have gotten the last beta

[willow tartan]

u can find patterns in speech

and then reconstruct the language

[north relic]

like what

[plush grail]

the bad words memeicus says is a pattern

[willow tartan]

like how most languages have vowels

so then you recognise which symbols are vowels by seeing where and when they pop up

[plush grail]

memeicus trying to teach the 12 year old how languages are formed

[north relic]

no he is teaching me how aliens would decipher the language of an inferior specie

[candid radish]

Still higher than yours

[willow tartan]

wrong

[candid radish]

Prove it

[willow tartan]

my therapist made me take an IQ test and outside of discovering i am mentally not okay

i have an IQ score of 129

[candid radish]

What team do I support

[plush grail]

memeicus can i make a documentary about you

[willow tartan]

like a biography?

[plush grail]

yes and in the end i shoot u

[willow tartan]

that would be cool

[candid radish]

More a case study I would’ve said

[willow tartan]

my life is very boring though i dont think anyone would be interested

[candid radish]

But IQ of like 110

[plush grail]

make it interesting

[willow tartan]

that's not genuine then

[candid radish]

Don’t care

[willow tartan]

well your opinion is irrelevant

[candid radish]

Do something fun and interesting

[willow tartan]

embellishing stories = bad

[plush grail]

go hunt fudge irl

[candid radish]

Please this heat is unbearable

[willow tartan]

where do u live

[plush grail]

UK

im pretty sure

[willow tartan]

how is it hot in the UK

[plush grail]

heat wave

[willow tartan]

yeah and

they are still like 40 degrees from the equator

[plush grail]

shut the fuck up

[willow tartan]

how do you say shut the fuck up in dutch

[plush grail]

no idea

i dont speak dutch

[keen abyss]

i scored 130 nice try though

[willow tartan]

wym try

it's not like you can fail an IQ test

It's just an examination of your brain

[north relic]

not so accurate source:
hou je bek

[candid radish]

It was 37 C today

[willow tartan]

was it dry heat or humid heat

[candid radish]

Also stalker

Dry heat

With the air feeling hard

[willow tartan]

??

you mean stake?

stale*

What the fuck is hard air

[plush grail]

go outside

[candid radish]

Actually a proper use of the insult

[glass prism]

Is anyone getting their contenders skins? I've been watching and nothing 😦

[full lichen]

. . .THANK GOD

[glass prism]

I have both the youtube and the contenders site linked

[balmy wolf]

sf shock is so cool

[tepid ibex]

Got to 41 where I am

[frosty patrol]

Bowol

how the fuck do you fall for troll accounts when you yourself are a troll account

you had mayhem top 5 preseason

you said adam, anamo, sirmajed, and checkmate are quote “great”

checkmate is pretty good but like

especially the other 3

“great”??

[molten portal]

sirmajed is great

at dying

[frosty patrol]

I thought you were about to unironically simp for majed

thank god

[molten portal]

lmao never

i cant believe theres only 27 perfect brackets left

[frosty patrol]

I can

I thought there’d be much less

[molten portal]

noones getting that money

[frosty patrol]

no shit

there’s trillions of possibilities

and billions of realistic ones

you had to get all 4 match winners + map score right and get who picks which team right

[molten portal]

especially when you have to pick who plays who

[full lichen]

I'm not a troll account tho

[blissful umbra]

My pickems man...Why Philly :(

I got everything right except Philly...was complete opposite

[full lichen]

I was trolling about Adam, but the other 2 are actually pretty good especially Majed, he number 1 in the league. . . With dying

[full lichen]

I Preded spark

[blissful umbra]

I was betting on MN3 and cheesestakes

They ain't feed him no cheesestakes :(

My guess

[molten portal]

they have belosrea on the team, they insta lose

[blissful umbra]

You didn't watch the Seoul Fusion game clearly

[frosty patrol]

you were not trolling with adam, you specifically mentioned multiple times how him getting a shot with 2 owl teams makes him good

also anamo and majed are shit

low tier backline

not close to other mid or above teams

[blissful umbra]

Anamo is good. Majed is too aggressive

[frosty patrol]

anamo is let me count

16th?

[blissful umbra]

Anamo is way better then you'll give credit for because his flex support is a nut job.

[molten portal]

anamo was good

[frosty patrol]

14th is the most charitable I can give you

and majed is a solid like

16th as well

actually no

17

could argue for anywhere 16-19 though

[full lichen]

Dude, this was preseason I remember correctly

[frosty patrol]

yes

and you thought anamo would be great in the preseason?

[full lichen]

Yes

[frosty patrol]

dude was mid in 2021, and there were like 8 good rookie main supports coming

[molten portal]

did u say top 5 in NA preseason or top 5 overall

[frosty patrol]

3rd NA

[molten portal]

ok gg

[full lichen]

You never know, Dallas fans though they were gonna have a good Hitscan this year and he has dropped the spaghetti

[frosty patrol]

yes because we knew guriyo was shit going into the season?

guriyo hype was complete copium

[full lichen]

Also, how could I tell Majed would be a feed machine?

In preseason?

And Adam actually looked decent in contenders

[willow drum]

watch him

[willow drum]

he looked decent

in NA contendors

there is no way

a decent player in na contendors

is higher than like low C

[full lichen]

Australian

[molten portal]

even worse then

[willow drum]

EVEN WORSE

DECENT IN AU CONTENDORS

IS LIKE

LOW F

BEST

if you are not great in australian contendors

you do not deserve a chance

in OWL

at all

[frosty patrol]

decent in EU contenders is bottom 1 owl

[full lichen]

They do make good coaches tho XD

[willow drum]

?

[frosty patrol]

mistype but that is also true

AU and EU decent = bottom 1

[willow drum]

agree

[willow drum]

sadly korean coaches

[full lichen]

Unless you're on the London Spitfire because that org is crazy

[willow drum]

are just better

[frosty patrol]

unter face gunba

[frosty patrol]

????

[willow drum]

i forgot face

[full lichen]

True

[willow drum]

was an aussie

[full lichen]

You never know what's gonna happen with London

[frosty patrol]

london has hadi (best eu mt)
poko (shitter)
sparkr (best euc hs)
shax (decent tracer otp proven in owl)
backbone (bottom 1 off mei and hanzo)
admiral (top euc ms)
landon (bottom 1 fs, decent NAC)

nobody decent in EU contenders besides backbone who is shit off 2 heroes

[full lichen]

Hadi

[frosty patrol]

you could've, you know

watched him?

[full lichen]

True

[blissful umbra]

Man never watched a single Overwatch league match this season

[frosty patrol]

hadi was the best eu mt going into 2022 too

[full lichen]

MUCH better than Daan lol

[blissful umbra]

Man really said Backbone the worse Mei when he's the only Mei in rush that's working

[molten portal]

no he said worst apart from mei

[frosty patrol]

???? nobody ever said this

read my messages challenge

[blissful umbra]

You said bottom 1...

[molten portal]

bottom 1 OFF mei

[earnest leaf]

bottom 1 off mei and hanzo

[frosty patrol]

please do not use discord if you are not literate

[devout path]

Off of mei and hanzo

Guess who’s back

[frosty patrol]

you are the single dumbest person alive

[devout path]

I’m back with the only good takes

[blissful umbra]

He's not bottom 1 off of Mei and hanzo...

[molten portal]

enlighten me

[cunning patrol]

U are an idiot

[full lichen]

Speaking of bottom 1, Landon Below Majed, Rupal, Aztac, Skairipa?

[devout path]

?

#drxwin ?

That you?

[frosty patrol]

name dps heroes besides mei and hanzo he is good at

[cunning patrol]

No

[devout path]

?

[cunning patrol]

Keep making things up…

[cloud latch]

what are y'all arguing about

[frosty patrol]

skairipa rupal not starters, majed plays more than 2 heroes and isn't the worst ana in the league, aztac is a goat

[devout path]

Oh wait

[frosty patrol]

aztac gaps landon

[devout path]

That’s emp

[frosty patrol]

on everything

[devout path]

He’s a dumbass

What team r u again

Prx?

[cunning patrol]

No but I like them

[devout path]

What team r u

[frosty patrol]

we're arguing about bowol's preseason takes

[cunning patrol]

Mf said team

Idk I just watch

[frosty patrol]

and about how amari main cannot read

[devout path]

You have a team

What team is it

[cunning patrol]

Bowol is an idiot

[cunning patrol]

IDK

[twin bloom]

Skairipa is sadly a starter

[devout path]

All of u r idiots

[cunning patrol]

How

[full lichen]

Some weeks inKickoff clash and certain weeks this qualifiers Skairipa started, lately Rupal has been starting a lot

[blissful umbra]

I can read. Y'all just can't use correct punctuation to separate 2 topics. Let alone not make any valid takes.

[twin bloom]

Also majed gets to much shit

Imo

[devout path]

It was levy and emp that were #drxwin then

[cunning patrol]

By no metric

Is that true

[twin bloom]

He is not worse than landon

Imo

Or skairipa

Or rupal

[cloud latch]

anyone got a pic of them

[full lichen]

True on both

[twin bloom]

Or aztac(sadly)

He is just a braindead

Fs

With decent aim

[cunning patrol]

He is worse than the tac

By every metric

Imo

[frosty patrol]

all you must know is mayhem 3rd NA top 5 overall

[twin bloom]

Sirmajed would not be benched for skairipa

Imo

[devout path]

Shock

Florida

[full lichen]

I was smoking that XZI pack preseason XD

[cunning patrol]

Bad logic

Imo

[cunning patrol]

U put muck

[twin bloom]

It isn't

[cunning patrol]

Nyxl

Above Shock

Odd

Take

[twin bloom]

Bro had ATL

Bottom 4

Na

Lol

[full lichen]

Preseason I was smoking the Yaki Flora KELLAN pack preseason

For NYXL

[cunning patrol]

Good mid horrible

Imo

[full lichen]

I just hate ATL

[molten portal]

fair

[cunning patrol]

Atl deserve to be bottom 4

After yesterday

[twin bloom]

Shut up

[molten portal]

they need to get off doom

[twin bloom]

London are a big team

Sadly

[blissful umbra]

@frosty patrol you didn't delete it fast enough

[cunning patrol]

Atl are a little

Team

[full lichen]

Hot take, after yesterday I think London will go 5 maps against ahock

[blissful umbra]

Fingers too slow like your brain to encourage suicide.

[twin bloom]

You probably think TD are better

Rn

Which is a strange

Take

[cunning patrol]

Yeah they are

[twin bloom]

Just brainrot

[willow drum]

???

[cunning patrol]

Atl performed like a tiny team

[twin bloom]

Anti NA gamer

Take

Sadly

[cunning patrol]

TD performed like a big team

[willow drum]

how do you have shock below nyxl outlaws mayhem

[cunning patrol]

I am pro NA

[willow drum]

PLEASE EXPLAIN YOURSELF

[cunning patrol]

After talking to ntb

[willow drum]

THERE IS NO WAY

[full lichen]

I was smoking a lot during the preseason

[willow drum]

YOU PUT SHOCK

[cunning patrol]

For a year

[twin bloom]

Td lost 2 maps

[willow drum]

UNDER NYXL

[twin bloom]

To da

Paris

Eternal

Imo

[cunning patrol]

Old reference

Imo

[willow drum]

HOW AND WHY DID YOU RATE NYXL OVER SHOCK

[cunning patrol]

They improved

[full lichen]

Yaki Gangnamjin KELLAN Flora

[twin bloom]

Its like 2 weeks old

[cunning patrol]

It is no

Not

[willow drum]

counterpoint: proper

[full lichen]

I didn't trust Coluge only tank and Viol2t MS

[willow drum]

and you trustedd GNJ MS?

and Kellan only tank?

and NYXL's coach?

[mortal cipher]

How

[blissful umbra]

Your takes are worse then mine but can't give you too much hate cause so much didn't turn out well for some teams

[full lichen]

Coaching better for shock

[twin bloom]

Oh wait

[hot onyx]

Hell nah Fusion above Charge??

[twin bloom]

That is not pre season

[worthy lynx]

Wtf i thought it was london and shock first

[mortal cipher]

If I made one at the worst I would’ve put shock at 6/5

[molten portal]

no the bracket is ass

[full lichen]

Yeah, NYXL should've actually done pretty well so far

[willow drum]

?

[mortal cipher]

Should’ve yeah

[blissful umbra]

Heads up. The date of a screenshot is in the title

[twin bloom]

These are still the best pre season rankings

[hot onyx]

Boston above London?????

[twin bloom]

Imo

[willow drum]

no

[cloud latch]

incorrect

[full lichen]

Florida in the same tier as Washington?

[willow drum]

the only thing wrong about it

[twin bloom]

I got alot right

Imo

[willow drum]

is the fact that

[full lichen]

Florida clears Washington easy

[blissful umbra]

Those are arguably the worst I've seen for NA

[willow drum]

london is not higher

[twin bloom]

Only a little wrong

[mortal cipher]

Not rlly

[willow drum]

only agregious take

is the atl 1st

besides that

it is accepatble

[twin bloom]

It wasn't

[willow drum]

(for this meta)

[twin bloom]

In pre season

[blissful umbra]

Titans the same as Houston and Dallas?

[willow drum]

imo nero

is not there

at all

[mortal cipher]

Dallas 2nd or 3rd would’ve made sense

[cunning patrol]

Solid take

[willow drum]

gator roster hole

[frosty patrol]

bowol's

[willow tartan]

egregious

[mortal cipher]

I mean Atlanta

[twin bloom]

@willow drum shock players have stated on stream that ATL was the best tean pre season

[hot onyx]

I see that you had London below Boston like an uninformed nerd

[willow drum]

NA* shock players

they are untrustworthy

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[twin bloom]

NA shock players are valid

Imo

[willow drum]

I bet you that

[cunning patrol]

Everyone thought that

[full lichen]

Florida so low?

[willow drum]

only s9mm said that

[hot onyx]

(Please understand that Houston and Shock were interchangeable and I chose based off a coin flip)

[willow drum]

i do not think coluge would say that

[earnest leaf]

atl always scrim gods tbf

[frosty patrol]

s9mm sucks mad reign player dick

[twin bloom]

He would

[earnest leaf]

tbf he played with half of them

[willow tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233904315247362048/971771770128461834/2022OWLpowerrankings.png

[fathom igloo]

Ok hot take London is better then sfs

[earnest leaf]

actually just ojee uv I think

but iirc all of the NA players generally are friends

[mortal cipher]

Yeah basically

[tepid ibex]

Vancouver, Paris and NYXL L

[cunning patrol]

Atl are a big team

[hot onyx]

Checkmate fdps from 30 map loss streak contenders team, washed up AU off tank that was replaced for a middling kr off tank in trendies and turned out as an upgrade, and a bottom 3 support duo on paper

[cunning patrol]

Performing as a little team

[twin bloom]

Held back

By coaching

Imo

I no longer defend

[blissful umbra]

I can remake my preseason rankings

[twin bloom]

The rajani

After yesterday

[hot onyx]

Pre Xzi, Hydron and Someone were the only bright spots and I didn’t see them carrying such dog water

[blissful umbra]

I sort of remember how I was thinking

[full lichen]

Gunba McGravy Dae1

[hot onyx]

I made a prediction that they would flop hard and it didn’t pay off

Gotta be bold

[north relic]

mine is objectively the best

[twin bloom]

Also imi

[willow tartan]

seoul below hunters?

weird list

[twin bloom]

You can not hold

[full lichen]

I was very bold XD

[tepid ibex]

Glad I predicted that lav would be better than charge

[north relic]

before implosion

[twin bloom]

People putting london last

[willow tartan]

rookie mistake

[twin bloom]

Everyone thought

London would be #20

[willow tartan]

you should only make ur power ranking

right before the season starts

[mortal cipher]

That’s not hard

[willow tartan]

so no changes can happen

[willow drum]

untrue

[cloud latch]

my rankings were okay

[willow drum]

you had a tier break between ATL and Shock

and had TD NYXL and Titans

much higher

[cloud latch]

shock poo

[willow drum]

than where they are

[tepid ibex]

Ratlanta

[willow drum]

cope

[willow tartan]

shock will get exposed

[hot onyx]

I am simply built different with ChrisTFer hopium and Uprising hatred

[willow tartan]

1 trick team

[mortal cipher]

Yee

[willow drum]

?

[full lichen]

Some of my preds we're actually good

[hot onyx]

Pre Hunters implosion?

[willow tartan]

yes

[cunning patrol]

My PRs

Were good

[hot onyx]

Fuck the Boston Uprising

[north relic]

yes

[cunning patrol]

Except I listened to certain dad individuals

[willow drum]

good

[cunning patrol]

Who made me think

Paris we’re good

Sad

Times

[cloud latch]

unfortunate

[full lichen]

Punk is too good for their team

[twin bloom]

Wheir did you place titans?

[cunning patrol]

Little

[frosty patrol]

UwU

[cunning patrol]

2

[twin bloom]

You listened to them on paris

But not me on titans

[cunning patrol]

U had

[twin bloom]

Depressing

[cunning patrol]

A clear bias

Imo

[twin bloom]

Ok

I had faith

In skairipa

Being a solid mid FS

[hot onyx]

No no 0unk is correct

[twin bloom]

And aspire being a flex god

And false being a good ow 2 tank

[hot onyx]

Fuck Skairipa

[twin bloom]

and flubby and pew

[hot onyx]

I had faith in the Aztac redemption arc

[cloud latch]

my biggest regret from my rankings is not believing in spark 😔

[twin bloom]

Being good coaches

Sad times

[hot onyx]

Certainly not a regret for me

[twin bloom]

Only player i had no faith in was

Seicoe

[cunning patrol]

I am happy I did not put ATL in my big 3 tier

Imo

[north relic]

this is ntb's

btw

[hot onyx]

I am happy I did not put ATL in my big 5

[mortal cipher]

I don’t even do pre season

[hot onyx]

I am going to say the word

[twin bloom]

You shouldn't be

If ATL finish under outlaws fusion

Spark

And TD

[hot onyx]

They finish under Spark for sure

[twin bloom]

Than it is a fair thought

Imo

[cloud latch]

I am sad I listened to atl fans and put them in mid 😔

[willow drum]

good spark ranking 💀

[cunning patrol]

Solid rankings

[twin bloom]

I do not think spark are that good

Imo

[hot onyx]

And Outlaws

[twin bloom]

But neither

Are reign

[blissful umbra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852703804636921916/999083808466944021/1658270503777.jpg

[hot onyx]

Fusion above 5th apac is not solid

[twin bloom]

They should have beat em

Imo

[cunning patrol]

They were correct

I thought chengdu

Would be a slightly big team

[frosty patrol]

valiant last fusion 8th

[hot onyx]

Pre implosion Chengdu is 2nd apac

[frosty patrol]

sheer misunderstanding of the apac region

[cloud latch]

wasn't a nohill believer smh

[mortal cipher]

Post????

[blissful umbra]

I had massive hate on Valiant...There was no misunderstanding

[mortal cipher]

I think most people did

[frosty patrol]

you have to understand

[cloud latch]

y

[frosty patrol]

nohill

[cunning patrol]

My mayhem placement

Was honest

I do not like that team

Imo

[willow tartan]

all in favor of executing ntb

[mortal cipher]

Probably from last years explosion

[balmy wolf]

lol

i had mayhem at 11th

tbf

[cunning patrol]

Wait why are atl big 3

I had them big 4 imo

[balmy wolf]

i think its pre szn

i had them big 3 in pre season

just the names on their roster

are huge guys]

[blissful umbra]

We basically have the same APAC. Just Philly and Spark are switched. Which tbh isn't a terrible feeling to have since Philly is sooo inconsistent at being where they should be.

[frosty patrol]

oh yeah like what

gator

and sephy

[balmy wolf]

yeah hes one of them but he did bad this yeart

he was one of the best reins

[cunning patrol]

@twin bloom

Ur fault imo

[tepid ibex]

I had atl 7th in the west

[frosty patrol]

gator was a fucking roster hole in 2021 too

[cunning patrol]

For my gladiators underestimation

[balmy wolf]

kai venom speedily uv and ojee

big names

[cunning patrol]

Anyone unbiased had them big 5

[frosty patrol]

"gator has been the biggest roster hole in the league for 2 years"

• me

[cunning patrol]

Imo

[willow tartan]

gator and hawk

[balmy wolf]

i think hawk atm is the biggest hole

[frosty patrol]

venom is not top 5 on his one trick

[willow tartan]

gator and hawk in 2021 collectively can play 4 heroes

[balmy wolf]

and maybe venom

[tepid ibex]

Nah I just thought other teams looked better

[mortal cipher]

Just not as bad

[cloud latch]

remove ojee and venom

[cunning patrol]

They are both big names

[frosty patrol]

gator*

[keen abyss]

atlanta top 2 without speedily is funny

[tepid ibex]

I wasn’t on the ojee and uv hopium

[balmy wolf]

well he doesnt play at all

so idk if he counts rn

[tropic herald]

this was my preseason it was pretty mid

[cunning patrol]

UV is a big player

[frosty patrol]

that is exactly why he is a roster hole

[cunning patrol]

Ojee is not very big

Imo

[north relic]

imo you are really dumb if you didnt have london at the bottom

[balmy wolf]

no like

[frosty patrol]

imagine if reign could play a competent maintank

[blissful umbra]

I wasn't big on either Atlanta or Dallas because I felt their DPS were too mediocre compared to everything else and wasn't sure who they'd play as DPS and if they'd contest others. I knew genji would Dallas a contention but never else

[frosty patrol]

hawk is great on his heroes

him being forced on monkey is a fucking gator issue

[balmy wolf]

i feel like his doom is rlly mid now

[frosty patrol]

correct

[north relic]

how is kai speedily mediocore

[balmy wolf]

he wasnt forced on monkey

[cloud latch]

who was high on atl coming in the season?

[blissful umbra]

Nah. I felt the 5v5 format would make resources into a tank more impactful especially with less shields

[blissful umbra]

Sparkle doha????

[cunning patrol]

Everyone intelligent

Imo

[balmy wolf]

the coach said they dont wanna play gator and since it was paris eternal they just tried him on gator tanks

[blissful umbra]

I said Dallas numbnut

[north relic]

you also said reign

[cunning patrol]

U implied that u were speaking about both teams

[frosty patrol]

@cloud latch I think I had reign somewhere near or possibly above shock

[blissful umbra]

I said I wasn't big on Atlanta

[frosty patrol]

for the sole reasons of coluge mt and viol2t lucio

[blissful umbra]

And Dallas because their DPS was mediocre

[balmy wolf]

did casters do preds already

[cunning patrol]

Ur wording was awful

Imo

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[blissful umbra]

True

[north relic]

also you just watched an entire season where dallas dps was mediocore but they still fucked (s4)

[twin bloom]

Imo if reign finish under mid teams like outlaws td mayhem spark fusion

Etc

Etc

They deserve to be flamed

[blissful umbra]

I didn't like the Atlanta movement in the trade season

[balmy wolf]

i mean

[twin bloom]

But i do not think

They will

[cunning patrol]

TD are bigger than them currently

Imo

[balmy wolf]

they lost some super good players but they also picked up super good players

[willow tartan]

sparkle getting rolestar was a robbery

[frosty patrol]

Didn't they just yell at me for my wording

[twin bloom]

They downgraded flex dps

[hot onyx]

That is a reasonable Mayhem placement

[mortal cipher]

Who should’ve been

[twin bloom]

But upgraded backline

Despite sans

[cunning patrol]

Agree

[twin bloom]

Takes