esports-discussion

[frosty patrol]

I just

got lied to

ok there's a misinformation campaign going on

[willow tartan]

I think its just people from rich countries coping IMO

[twilit oriole]

Guys

Imo

This is correct

I locked it too

That’s how confident I am

🥱

[frosty patrol]

I think it’s just that a mental health crisis in a rich nation gets 4500% more coverage than like lesotho

[willow tartan]

mike you know how like men commit more suicide than women on average? what country do u think has the most equal suicide rate between the two sexes

[frosty patrol]

probably a middle eastern one

[next mesa]

some people like the dark

[frosty patrol]

or my wild guess is india

[twilit oriole]

Mb you guys are talking about suicide

Not what the channel is made for.

Talk about esports.

Before I ping a mod

[willow tartan]

who is your favorite esport pro that committed suicide

[next mesa]

shut up

[frosty patrol]

name some

[twilit oriole]

Levy stfu

[frosty patrol]

I don’t really know any

[next mesa]

forgoodking moment

[willow tartan]

actually

i wonder if any scientists have done a study research

on whether gaming increases or decreases your rate of suicidew

[twilit oriole]

Ninja😰🤧😭

[willow tartan]

if i were a scientist i would definitely do that

[twilit oriole]

Yeah scientist biggest worry rn is if gaming decreases the chances of suicide

[willow tartan]

????

[frosty patrol]

k0u is my favorite esports player to commit suicide because it’s the only one google came up with

[twilit oriole]

They aren’t gonna research that

[willow tartan]

bro its not like the same scientists who do cancer research are the same ones that do psychological reports

i think you are stupid

[twilit oriole]

Still

No one’s gonna research that

💀

[frosty patrol]

scientists research the weirdest shit

[willow tartan]

Also scientists don't research what the bigger worries are. Scientist research what big companies pay them the biggest money grants for. (True statement)

[frosty patrol]

also for a dissertation or similar it has to be new information so grad students have to dig deep

[frosty patrol]

true

the only ones that research something close to what they want are some university professors prob

(I am somewhat uneducated on this subject though)

[willow tartan]

maybe women are just better at hiding suicides

so you never discover and count them

[frosty patrol]

or maybe in many countries with male skewed suicide balance it’s a culture issue tied to toxic masculinity

lmfao

[willow tartan]

nah nah nah

i am conspiracy

female disappearance rate higher on average

what if not disappear, but dead? just not find out

equals out IMO

if you want to talk about statistics though i bet you that there is a disproportionate amount of people that commit suicide off of people who regularly use social media because i swear most of the weirdos on here are fucked up as hell

[balmy wolf]

Memeicus

What the hell are you even on about right now

[cunning patrol]

He’s an r word

@twilit oriole ur an idiot bum

[balmy wolf]

^

Fax

X

[willow tartan]

the global suicide rate

[balmy wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[willow tartan]

well yes that is what it is

[balmy wolf]

Ty

[north relic]

i am just american happy

[willow drum]

nice @north relic

[north relic]

rein is so free

[fathom igloo]

So here are my predictions for tomorrow
London 2-3 atl
Hou 3-1 FL
Shd 3-0 tor
Philly 3-2 HZS

[north relic]

same except i gave london one less map

[tepid ibex]

Same except London 3-2 atl

[turbid cargo]

Same but I gave Toronto a map

[frosty patrol]

atlanta > london but decent pred

I had philly getting rolled horribly by spark

because they're just the worse team

[turbid cargo]

I think I’m high on mn3
I locked in a finals of
Shock 4 - 2 Philly

[frosty patrol]

?????

philly are not even average

they are below charge valiant hunters dynasty spark dragons shock glads fuel reign mayhem houston on the overwatch power scale imo

mn3 cannot put up the best dps performance of all time every match

[turbid cargo]

I’m starting to realize that it wasn’t the best choice a day after I locked in

[willow tartan]

also it cant be shock philly because shanghai will be in the finals and win

[frosty patrol]

he's been invisible for more matches than he's been jesus

shanghai will win finals yeah

imo

[north relic]

philly in finals is delusion

[frosty patrol]

^

[willow drum]

philly winning anything

delusion

they will prob be out very very

quickly

[next mesa]

@cunning patrol @devout path mako marved melser mindfreak... should boaster change his IGN to "Moanster" to boost EU title chances? Next on ESPN news

[turbid cargo]

If Philly makes it to finals I’m a genius, if they don’t no one cares cus everyone thought it was gonna be wrong anyways, I got nothing to lose

[willow tartan]

???

[willow drum]

uh

55K

but alright

[willow tartan]

thats not predicting thats shooting fish in a barrel

a prediction is making a guess on what you think is actually going to happen

i could put in my pickems toronto winning in the finals 4-0 against london

but thats not a prediction

[willow drum]

it's the truth

chorong will kill 5 every fight

[turbid cargo]

Just let me be high on mn3

[willow drum]

and they will win the league

[earnest leaf]

if philly needs mn3 to put up ans tier performances every match to have a chance they're doomed

[willow tartan]

no i will not let you be high

i am anti drugs

[frosty patrol]

mn3 has been anywhere from mid A tier to low C tier for the entire season except the seoul game

[turbid cargo]

Anyways my pred is prob not gonna happen cus outlaws clearly 4-0 anyone in the finals

[willow tartan]

above ans tier imo, its like diem tier

[willow drum]

he was gapped

by develop

[frosty patrol]

oh god there goes flameknightt bringing up an A tier ashe from 2020 again

[earnest leaf]

diem washed

[willow drum]

not a good look

[frosty patrol]

who wasn't

[willow tartan]

not as washed as ans

[willow drum]

fits

the kbbq goat

[earnest leaf]

I meant ans tier as in the performances he did as widow

[frosty patrol]

fits is the only one not gapped

[earnest leaf]

which were very good

[willow tartan]

this year?

i udnerstand what you mean but you are wrong

[earnest leaf]

I swear I have to give in depth explanations on everything I say to you chimps

[willow drum]

i cant wait

tbh

for UP vs O2

[earnest leaf]

When I meant "ans tier performances" I meant what he did to teams in s3

which you cannot deny was extreme bullying

[willow tartan]

which is still not to the level of mn3 on that map

sorry

[willow drum]

👍

[frosty patrol]

mn3 put up a better dps performance than ans ever has

[earnest leaf]

ans had better maps than what mn3 did still

cope and seethe

[willow tartan]

yeah but how does that make the average of his season better than mn3?

[next mesa]

diem dunked on ashe

dunked on ans

[willow tartan]

flameknight not understanding statistics moment

[next mesa]

absolutely pummeled him to the ground

[earnest leaf]

ans hasn't played that much this year because glads coaching simp for pati and want to force him

[frosty patrol]

are you sure it's not because ans is B tier at best

[next mesa]

ans has 1 good hero

widowmakah

[worn falcon]

Philly pulling a Chengdu

[frosty patrol]

2*

[worn falcon]

Good

[frosty patrol]

ans fox girl hidden tech

[worn falcon]

Imagine MN3 carrying like Leave

[willow tartan]

mike

[next mesa]

except mn3

is not on leave's level

[willow tartan]

we dont know if the fox-themed hero is a girl

[next mesa]

consistency wise

[turbid cargo]

Who’s the best sojourn in the Leauge

[willow tartan]

lip

[next mesa]

probably kai

[willow drum]

sans' nan

[frosty patrol]

it better be

[willow tartan]

when reign play against dragons

[cunning patrol]

he should

[willow tartan]

or if

[cunning patrol]

imo

[willow tartan]

lip will bully

[next mesa]

i agree jazz

thank u for ur analysis 🪕

[cunning patrol]

on hard hs

he is way better

[cunning patrol]

yeah that is why

lmfao

[willow tartan]

that is a bad pun

[cunning patrol]

its not

[sullen berry]

how is it even a pun

[next mesa]

of course

i just mean outputting

da performance

[willow tartan]

are you english?

so basically the hypothetical explanation

[next mesa]

leave did

what mn3 did to dynasty

more consistently 2 other teams

[frosty patrol]

leave is better on everything except ashe cass widow by multiple miles

oh yeah

sombra they're equal

[sullen berry]

feelsbadman we could of had Ameng as coach

[willow tartan]

when using "monster" can indicate a very good palyer who put on many good performance, so when pun "moanster" is indicate very good player who are performjng well in matches

[north relic]

imo i could bench pati on sojourn

[next mesa]

no

its cuz he moans a lot lol

and his ign is boaster

[willow drum]

0% crit acc?

[north relic]

its nyi

[cunning patrol]

so hard hs heroes?

lol

[willow tartan]

yes

mike is dumb

[frosty patrol]

I was agreeing with you

[willow tartan]

what the fuck is nyi

[frosty patrol]

weirdo

[north relic]

not yet included

[next mesa]

mike sometimes

[north relic]

blizzard included it in the beta without telling anyone what it means

very stupid

[next mesa]

u say things that dont need to be said

[willow tartan]

why didnt they just

[next mesa]

such as 1+1 = 2

[willow tartan]

not have the stat there

[willow tartan]

instead of having it NYI

like

just dont put it there

[cunning patrol]

Ok

[north relic]

ITS SO HYPE

[cunning patrol]

👍

[frosty patrol]

don't forget 2 + 3 = 5

actually that needs to be said

[north relic]

i might be able to know my primary fire accuracy later in the future

makes me really excited for ow2

[willow tartan]

i bet ian would fail sixth grade math questions

[willow drum]

jack and him dont know what

precedence is so

not surprising

[willow tartan]

but math is a universal language

even aliens can understand math

[north relic]

source?

[willow drum]

common sense

imho

[willow tartan]

anything with a brain

that is conscious

[next mesa]

depends

imo

[willow tartan]

and has sentience

[next mesa]

if an alien

[willow tartan]

or sapience

[next mesa]

has the capacity

to communicate with us

they should be able to understand math

[willow tartan]

yes

any sapient creature will understand math

by aliens i meant intelligent extraterrestrials

[willow drum]

HEESANG IS PLAYING IN LESS THAN 7 HOURS

INSHALLAH

[willow tartan]

heesang more like heesunderage

[willow drum]

sadly

[willow tartan]

???

whats wrong with being underage weirdo

[willow drum]

??? sadly as in

he is not on shock

[willow tartan]

that's a good thing

[willow drum]

so s9mm the fraud

is playing

[willow tartan]

shock are a shit org

[willow drum]

how are shock a shit org

[willow tartan]

they are run by NRG

name me 1 time where NRG did a good thing

[willow drum]

when did shock ever

do anything wrong

besides the ta1yo situation

[willow tartan]

their championship roster exploded due to internal problems

so something went wrong

we dont know what

but something did

[willow drum]

it did not

they expliciately said

they wanted to rebuild

also memeicus you were wrong

on the seoul/glads being 1st seed

shock is 1st seed

rip bozo

[willow tartan]

imagine taking public PR statements as objective fact

when it has been alluded to that shit stuff happen

[frosty patrol]

they were not a top 5 team with a core of smurf super choi nero viol2t twilight

[willow drum]

It also made sense

[willow tartan]

yeah well consider you are wrong

[willow drum]

choi retired due to millitary

[frosty patrol]

???

[willow drum]

did he not ???

[willow tartan]

that's mano

[willow drum]

no didnt choi retire to go do millitary

[frosty patrol]

It's obvious to anyone with half a brain cell that I am talking about s4

and how shock were so shit with such a good roster

[willow drum]

I am aware

but I am saying why they could not have kept that

roster

[frosty patrol]

Yes and I am saying s4 was the explosion

[willow tartan]

because it is

[willow drum]

i think

[frosty patrol]

Let's look at the teams above shock on paper

[willow tartan]

the evidence is obvious

[willow drum]

it was strikers

fault

[willow tartan]

its the orgs fault for not kicking out striker

so

org caused shock to fail

should have playd glister more

and played viol2t lucio less

we do not know the internals

but if you choose to blame striker then you blame the org for not punishing striker

[willow drum]

i personally think that

[frosty patrol]

chengdu:
ga9a < smurf + super
lateyoung < choI
leave >> glister
jinmu < nero
yveltal > fdgod
mmonk << viol2t/twilight
and coaching:
chengdu coaching >= shock coaching

[willow drum]

chengdu was not > shock

when it mattered

[willow tartan]

they were

[willow drum]

(the playoffs at the end)

[willow tartan]

????

[frosty patrol]

Chengdu was >> shock until they also exploded

[willow drum]

?????

[frosty patrol]

that's not a good thing

[willow tartan]

the only reason shock placed above chengdu was because hunters literally had a throwing player

like

actively throwing teammate

[willow drum]

i think this is copium from you

[willow tartan]

well you are wrong

[willow drum]

you have been wrong multiple times before

[willow tartan]

no

[willow drum]

it is part of human life

[frosty patrol]

memeicus is wrong much less than you when it comes to the san francisco shock

[willow tartan]

you are actually stupid if u think that chengdu didnt play like doggy doo shit and fumbled the ball hard during playoffs

[willow drum]

they 100% did

chengdu should have been like

4th

or 3rd

[frosty patrol]

chengdu was >> shock in 2021

[willow drum]

at very least

[willow tartan]

and besides saying that "it only matters in the playoffs" is like ultra hard mega cope

hunters made hawaii two more times than shock that's all im saying

[frosty patrol]

3*

[willow drum]

wasnt it 3?

cc ss and mm?

[frosty patrol]

yes

[willow tartan]

may melee yes

but i choose not to count that

cuz fusion shouldve been in over thenm

[willow drum]

they got unlucky

with schedule

what can I say

[willow tartan]

actually though fusion could have performed pretty well in may melee cause the meta suited them well

[frosty patrol]

just like how chengdu should've been in over fusion this tournament

[willow tartan]

yes

karma

[frosty patrol]

ok now

reign

[willow drum]

?

[frosty patrol]

gator <<< smurf/super
hawk = choi
kai >> glister
pelican >> nero
masaa < fdgod
ir1s < viol2t/twilight

on paper

and

shock coaching > reign coaching

remember reign had sephy counteracting unter

[willow drum]

if you want my personal opinion

on reign vs shock

and the whole debacle of reign being 2nd in general

[north relic]

imo

iris better

that season

[willow drum]

it is because shock matched them

on rush

if shock did not match on rush

probably would have won

[frosty patrol]

yes but on paper viol2t twilight is better on everything but bap

[willow drum]

same with the glads

and same with the dallas

[frosty patrol]

hellfire screaming about playoffs is copium

when shock failed to do anything the whole season

[willow drum]

i am not

reign tbh rode the western teams

mistakes

to a 2nd place

when i think any 3 of the western teams the reign beat

would probably have made it a little close

or more close

[north relic]

"if this happened"

[willow drum]

i am salty because

glads

did not get anywhere close

to where i predicted them

and instead the fraud rush team

won

over glads

[earnest leaf]

Reign last year was basically kai/iris/pelican deadlifting

Especially in the rush mirrors

[north relic]

hawk was really good

[earnest leaf]

you can watch gator's pov and he basically goes afk since his team wins fights before they began

also shock was hard mental boomed all season long

unlucky

[willow tartan]

not that it wouldve made a difference cuz shanghai dallas were above everyone else in s4 for the most part

discounting sandbag cup of course

[earnest leaf]

I think if shock wasn't mental boomed and striker never retired, they would have at least made a tourney or two

[willow tartan]

oh yeah definitely make tournaments

[earnest leaf]

Maaaaybe win the countdown cup considering they did nearly beat glads

probably not win finals though

[north relic]

"if this happened"

if nyxl signed fate void fleta lip izayaki leejaegon moon they probably would have won s4

[earnest leaf]

I think what if scenarios are fun

What if we never got a hog meta s3 finals and it stayed hard dive

[north relic]

they are but what you are saying sounds like shock cope

(fuck shock cope)

[willow tartan]

if nyxl signed fate void fleta lip izayaki leejaegon moon they would have somehow drained the whole roster's talent and have jjonak absorb it all like a talent vampire

[earnest leaf]

I don't think it's cope to say that if a team didn't have their mentals in the shitter alongside a mid season retirement, they more than likely would have done a bit better

[frosty patrol]

after june joust shanghai was the sole member of the big boy club

[willow tartan]

yes

[frosty patrol]

in summer showdown chengdu was 2

gapped fuel

[willow tartan]

just sayin that even if shock played full potential

they would have lost to dalas/shanghai in mm

[frosty patrol]

shock are 2nd at best in the season at potential

[earnest leaf]

in may melee probably yea

[frosty patrol]

shanghai was just 14 power levels above everyone

in june joust shock have a slight shot

[earnest leaf]

But it's hard to fully see where the mental boomage hit the hardest

[frosty patrol]

in summer showdown not really

in countdown cup maybe

[willow tartan]

we will never know the universe of how shanghai would've been if OW2 never came to be and we stayed in 6v6 (so i can continue to say they are the greatest overwatch 1 roster of all time until the day of my death)

[twilit oriole]

End it all(end the ow2 game you are currently playing, it is good to end the game once and for all tonight)

[keen abyss]

s4 power rankings at the end imo were

shanghai
tier break
glads dallas (interchangeable)
tier break
chengdu shock atlanta

i still think glads and dallas were interchangeable at the very end

i don't think dallas was clearly above glads

[tawdry hamlet]

is it a hot take to like double shield hitscan plus tracer / whatever dps was buffed at the time meta the most

I have fond memories of mid season 3

[fathom igloo]

https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1548851422837735425?t=pxMy1FZx6Ke_2AWaJjRr2g&s=19

Overwatch Path to Pro (@owpathtopro)

Overwatch Contenders continues with Korea today!
Live from 5pm KT🙌

📺 https://t.co/6nvkQOe1iG

Join the amazing talent who will be covering A-Sides and B-Sides:

@Paulsible
@lafonh
@imAVRL
@PixieOnTheMic

Twitter · Jul 18, 2022, 2:05 AM

Korean tenders everyone

[willow tartan]

as long as one of them is not genji

[earnest leaf]

imo the really aggressive ashe tracer stuff was pretty fun to watch

It generally wasn't the really bad double shield were you never moved

[keen abyss]

i want to see glads vs shanghai grand finals for midseason

i dont even care how it goes

i want what we missed in 2021

[tawdry hamlet]

it was really fun because the dps were flashy af

[earnest leaf]

I want glads to face seoul in the loser bracket

and watch kevster gap profit to the moon

[keen abyss]

yeah it'll be fun to watch kev dominate profit in the winner's bracket

[tawdry hamlet]

I work full time and this season and have not kept up at all lmao

I said and twice because im high

[keen abyss]

and see the fraudper and kilo get gapped by fleta lip

in loser bracket

[earnest leaf]

imagine kilo diffs lip

the mental boomage from apac fans

or pati gapping lip

[willow tartan]

https://youtu.be/1ScFuXQ4wGY?t=4334

[keen abyss]

fraud match

grand finals

would've been much more exciting

[willow tartan]

much more exciting 4-0 than the one against atlanta reign

definitely

[keen abyss]

4-1

shu gets at least one map

[zinc lintel]

I think dynasty or Shanghai takes it

[hot onyx]

Praise Allah for AVRL Pixie casting

[willow drum]

we will probably see

Max HeeSang Viper Caffeine Bliss

from O2

Sigma - Sojourn - Tracer - Zen - Brig/Bap

maybe Junbin in for Ball

I doubt we will see Prophet or Probe this week

unless its for Widow map

Viper is the Tracer specialist

[frosty patrol]

probe might start on sojourn

[willow drum]

could happen

[frosty patrol]

it's which gap is larger between
heesang sojourn and probe sojourn
or
heesang traccer and viper tracer

and tbh probe could be the better sojourn

than heesang

[willow drum]

pretty much

[frosty patrol]

we've seen randomass hs players be nuts on sojourn

like ezhan

so it's very possible probe rolls

[balmy wolf]

@willow tartan shd vs defiant soon

[willow tartan]

dragons 3-0

toronto only cap 2 points in the series

[balmy wolf]

Probably

they started season good

then fell off

[twin bloom]

Shocks best comp that season was rush

[twin bloom]

Glads didn't mirror rush lol and neither did fuel for most maps

[twin bloom]

Gators rein was mechanically top 3 in OWL.last season but because he is a mean man on twitter people will never admit it

Sad

Also people who think shock (a rush team whose best comp was rush) would have had a closer game vs shd are delusional lol

Same with glads who were just a way worse version of SHD

[balmy wolf]

Gator bad

Hawk better

I love hawk

I don't love gator

:)

[twin bloom]

Ok

[willow tartan]

chengdu if they didnt have a thrower and fuel are the only two teams i saw making it like any margin closer than atlanta

the rest are kinda a wash

though more so for chengdu because mirror comp and form

fuel kinda fell off a cliff

[twin bloom]

Chengdu would have taken one map max over SHD

Lol

Same with glads

Imo

[willow tartan]

which is way more than 0

[twin bloom]

Imo it is possible they could have taken 0

[willow tartan]

very possible

just sayin that if any team were to take a map it would be hunters

[twin bloom]

Fuel was strange imo

[willow tartan]

cause same comp + popoff potential from the players

[twin bloom]

They were a 6 man/rush team

[willow tartan]

if hunters wer having a good day and dragons bad day during finals

[twin bloom]

But had a close game

Vs shd

[willow tartan]

hunters can take some map

[twin bloom]

In playoffs

IMO gladiators were just a better version of chengdu

[willow tartan]

no team in s4 was going to take out shanghai on fair ground

[twin bloom]

In playoffs

[willow tartan]

they need star players to make games closer

star plays*

[earnest leaf]

I think i've said he was a top 3 rein in s4

people who say otherwise are either coping or mag simps

[twin bloom]

Respectable take

Imo

[earnest leaf]

I'd even go as far to say top 2 rein that year

[twin bloom]

Mechanically speaking he probably was

But fearless was very good

In brawl mirrors

Imo

[earnest leaf]

Fearless took advantage of his team playing at a much faster pace in a lot brawl generally

so he could run in and his team perfectly covered him

[willow tartan]

the bumper technique

[sullen berry]

@frosty patrol

also what on earth is the last team's logo, besides T1

[sullen berry]

alright you contenders 2022 virgins

[sullen berry]

WGS, O2, UP Academy, T1, TDI, Talon, JNGK and Panthera lock it in

[sullen berry]

Viper and Heesang slapping Navi Argon

[plush grail]

i'd say i am based

[sullen berry]

I've never got that second line, can't relate

i hope they got the message

[willow drum]

unlucky

4 argon

[sullen berry]

not the best starting matchup, that's for sure

[willow drum]

aprita no play

on map 1

[last nimbus]

Uhh

Why is lucio brig meta

In korea contenders

[willow drum]

because junkerqueen

is meta

and lucio brig are best supports for her

[last nimbus]

Its like zombie comp

Wait no

How is brig better for jq than ana

[willow drum]

ana is played

brig just more played

[last nimbus]

But why

[willow drum]

ana can't brawl

lol

[balmy wolf]

Are they playing rn

[willow drum]

yes

[last nimbus]

Yeah i guess

Yes

Lucio brig seems so silly

[willow drum]

it is

2x ms meta

shock fucked

[balmy wolf]

Is contenders still on twitch or is it on yt

[willow drum]

lol

[last nimbus]

Literally every team fucked

Which team has double ms

Well i guess glads have skewed brig and fa lucio

[willow tartan]

Shanghai dragons

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/obiwank52854234/status/1548983216916164610

⚡🔋 OK2 - Obiwankenobi 2 🔋⚡ (@obiwank52854234)

DON'T FORGET YOUR ROOTS, OVERWATCH CONTENDERS

Twitter · Jul 18, 2022, 10:49 AM

[hot onyx]

“obiwank”

[sullen berry]

RNG too good

[willow drum]

there should be no reason

why UP is having a close game with SLT

imho

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/obiwank52854234/status/1548996011968073729?t=VEHlIfVzyZmOSBeunxW3hQ&s=19

⚡🔋 OK2 - Obiwankenobi 2 🔋⚡ (@obiwank52854234)

Love you guys, its been 0 days since Guangzhou Charge Players have lost a match

Twitter · Jul 18, 2022, 11:40 AM

Yeah that route 66 performance was mid

I just think SLT were about to go on a Snowball and Apr1ta needed to be countered hard to ensure they secured the 1-2

Not hard when the genjis and the Junkerqueens were out playing each other

[hot onyx]

Boonjo couldn’t carry hard enough

No matter, Clestyn time

[sullen berry]

Na1st, evidently

Is pissed

Would be on the Philadelphia fusion roster through coach nepotism over zest

Not that I would call that a legit move they would make this season

[hot onyx]

If only coach nepotism worked for Clestyn

And Unique

And Krillin

Holy Na1st actually good?

[willow drum]

wrong

the enemy team

[sullen berry]

False shephard na1st

[willow drum]

is just a bozo

[sullen berry]

Sans you must know Na1st looking good in contenders will lead you astray

He has always been OWL level

If by that I mean Flubby can make it into OWL

[willow drum]

agree

[sullen berry]

Just like how my podcast is OWL level

[hot onyx]

It’s a better podcast than Plat Chat and Tactical Crouch

They’ve never had a former top 350 dva player as a recurring guest

[sullen berry]

Plat chat more like chat
Tactical crouch more like T bags onto the Overwatch community. I love it when old men yell at clouds

[frosty patrol]

JNGK?

GOAT team

[sullen berry]

If you read this and saw Jungkook

You are verified kpop stan

[hot onyx]

Good team but unfortunately nobody beats IE

[sullen berry]

I want to see IE perform

Jngk seems like the more safer pick for whatever reason

[hot onyx]

Friendly reminder that IE beat CC

[sullen berry]

Recency bias does exist - now who was on Team CC this year?

[hot onyx]

5 OWL players

Actually 4 Contenders players in OWL + Someone

[frosty patrol]

wrong

someone, 2 below average owl dps, 2 below average owl supports

this list is

so bad

[frosty patrol]

shock fan on the possibility of shock v shanghai

such a bad take

[fathom igloo]

It's mm day

[frosty patrol]

ok guys

I found the king of bad lists

this is current

[balmy wolf]

wtf

i thought it was begining of season

[frosty patrol]

this is fucking current

[balmy wolf]

this person is stuck in the past

[frosty patrol]

ok wait there is new information

this is apparently a starting flex support ranking

which is equally bad

solely because they have aztac last and landon not bottom 1

[north relic]

irony above mmonk

vigi

farway that low

aimgod somehow not bottom 5

https://twitter.com/Carter_OW/status/1548897159684100096?s=20&t=U5jkvm_9JiPztNJBMKuqDw

Carter (@Carter_OW)

They are playing literally 12~ inches away from the opposing team?

Likes

280

Twitter · Jul 18, 2022, 5:07 AM

[fathom igloo]

That happened last season no

[north relic]

Also this is the correct take

[north relic]

You overrate titans

Also I accidentally put vigi above finn

[trim shadow]

7:00 games

Man finna be a long night

[frosty patrol]

aztac is better than kaan, aimgod, myunb0ng, sirmajed, crimzo, and landon

[north relic]

@frosty patrol what’s owl’s sojourn secondary accuracy

[trim shadow]

Nothing wrong with this?

Old school gaming duh

[frosty patrol]

60 is the best secondary accuracy

[north relic]

Some guy popped in ow2 beta chat and asked if 25% was good

[frosty patrol]

45-50 is decent for owl

[north relic]

I was hitting 70 yesterday

I must be a god

[plush grail]

what the fuck is this

i have seen better setups at local comic con gaming spaces

[north relic]

They better have god tier noise cancelling headphones

[plush grail]

also like

wont the mics pick up the other teams comms

like in big messy fights they're not talking at a normal volume

they raise their voice

this is a shitshow

[north relic]

Ok I can vouch for this one

I have noisy ass fans

Like you have to raise your voice to speak in it

And my headset doesn’t pick it up

[plush grail]

yeah but doesnt it work different with voices

[north relic]

Some headsets don’t pick up background noise other than your own voice

[north relic]

Like wouldn’t their own comms echo

[plush grail]

imagine atlanta bms in game

and the other team just fucking beats them up irl

[north relic]

Every time gator feeds

He runs to put coluge in a headlock

[willow drum]

coluge would unironically

[plush grail]

but knowing owl

[willow drum]

destroy gator

[plush grail]

they probably get shot in the back of the head if they do anything irl

[willow drum]

if nft man tried to attack him

[plush grail]

good job american man, u can make screenshots!

[tropic herald]

Screenshot

[last nimbus]

Gold ranked ow1 comp

[tropic herald]

Apparently they actually are playing right across from each other !?

[next mesa]

Lmao this set up is HORRIBLE

WTF

[plush grail]

cant wait for the controversies we're gonna get from this

players lowering their in game volume so they can hear other teams comms

u could fr just try lip-reading lmao

[next mesa]

Yeah literally

[hot onyx]

Uv isn't better than Twilight

[plush grail]

na copium

[full lichen]

He is tho

[hot onyx]

isn't

[plush grail]

ah yes

[hot onyx]

Ian try reading challenge

[full lichen]

Also, I wanna see Arche and Heesang on the same team

[plush grail]

rookie >> someone who has been in owl for years on top tier teams with top tier performances

[plush grail]

im saying he's a coping na fan

not u

[hot onyx]

kind of looks like it was directed at me since i was the one being replied to

[plush grail]

nah mb

[full lichen]

The literally best Flex support rookie available this year>>>> someone who is currently on a downward spiral

Ngl

[balmy wolf]

Hi

[hot onyx]

[balmy wolf]

Who?

[hot onyx]

switch player

[full lichen]

UV >= Twilight, twilight hasn't fallen real far

[plush grail]

twilight

[full lichen]

What does this have to do with the conversation?

[balmy wolf]

I'd say UV has been doing better

[plush grail]

uv >>> this mf i guess???

[full lichen]

Exactly

[balmy wolf]

Twilight obviously had higher peaks but imo rn twilight isn't performing anywhere near where he is normally and UV is doing better this season than twilight

As far as solo impact goes

Imo

[plush grail]

dont care

kaan solos

[full lichen]

UV standings

[hot onyx]

weak region

[plush grail]

dont even bother with the NA hivemind

[hot onyx]

his biggest competition was Majed and a middling kr shitter

[devout path]

Twilight is one of the goats

[full lichen]

Majed played Saudi not NA

[balmy wolf]

I agree with treeko

[hot onyx]

Majed was in NA contenders for BW

[devout path]

Anyone who says UV is better than twilight is just generalizing twilights performance by the team

[hot onyx]

one season

[plush grail]

triste pretending like twilight didn't play against rosters like this in contenders

[balmy wolf]

I don't think as a player UV > Twilight but I think this moment and this season UV is having more solo impact that Twilight imo

[devout path]

Wait that’s such a fucking stacked lineup wtf

[plush grail]

og kongdoo

[full lichen]

Wasn't twilight in contenders like 4 years ago or something like that?

[devout path]

Cuz twilights team is so fucking mid

[plush grail]

yes

because he's so good

[balmy wolf]

Atlanta is too tbh

[plush grail]

too good for contendies

[balmy wolf]

We suck ass

[plush grail]

he's been in the league on peak titans, he was on shock

[full lichen]

So he played them before they were good XD

[north relic]

boosted

[devout path]

Korean contenders 4 years ago > na contenders last year

[north relic]

twilight had smurf and muze

[devout path]

??

[north relic]

UV has gator

[plush grail]

Korean contenders 4 years ago >>>>>> na contenders last year

[full lichen]

Exactly

[north relic]

imo last year NA contenders

beat korean contenders 4 years ago

however the players were much better relative

[forest token]

game understanding has drastically improved over the past 4 years

[full lichen]

Twilight has looked good because of his teammates, now that all he has isuze and Heesu he looks mid

[devout path]

You do realize they were basically all in owl season 1 right

The season jjonak mvped

[full lichen]

Yeah

[plush grail]

owl was not even a thing when twiligh was vsing rascal and the others

[north relic]

no he is stilll at least top 7

[full lichen]

But, was season 1 when they performed best?

[north relic]

which isnt mid

[forest token]

idk how some of those players are doing but back then that was a nasty lineup

[full lichen]

I'll give you 7

[devout path]

Yes

Lol?

[full lichen]

7th would be fair

[north relic]

i personally have him sixth

[tropic herald]

[devout path]

Unless ur trying to tell me bdosin and fissure didn’t peak in season 1

[plush grail]

american

[full lichen]

They did

[tropic herald]

Next you are going to tell me EU is a good region

[devout path]

Arguably birdring did too

[full lichen]

Birdring played better last year than in S1

[plush grail]

london

[full lichen]

Ehhh, arguably

[tropic herald]

Alright team but it’s a bit of a rose tinted glasses moment with this stage

[plush grail]

it's almost like some teams play better in certain metas

and that this team took some time to adapt to stuff like a team house and new players

[north relic]

best EU team is mid

EU is not good

[full lichen]

True

Also, Here's some contenders talk, Arche>=Hydron

[next mesa]

who

whomegalol~

[full lichen]

Who is Arche?

[next mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/yoinky-sploinky-yoinkysploinky-jerma-gif-23867635

[willow drum]

unironically

i agree but

he is not picked up for a reason

[full lichen]

Everyone already had hitscans by the time he turned 18

[willow drum]

you realize

he turned 18

much before the league started

in january

[full lichen]

Ik

[willow drum]

which means he was passed up on

[full lichen]

Yeah,because 99% of team had a hitscan

[willow drum]

yes

so heesang will not duo with arche

[full lichen]

I think it would be an interesting rookie Dps duo

[willow drum]

i think

heesang would boost arche

to many victories

[full lichen]

Heesang is that good, but Arche can hold his own

[willow drum]

arche is good but I'm not sure if he is higher than high B

who did WGS even play tday

was it a nobody team

[full lichen]

They played team NP and rolled them XD

[willow drum]

3 rolls tday

very interesting

[full lichen]

Because Arche and Doux and Adellin just carried and their supports existed hard enough to escape the enemy genji

[willow drum]

If WGS played O2

one of them would get

[full lichen]

Arche even played Zen

[willow drum]

very hard

very very hard

rolled

[full lichen]

Yeah, O2 tanks and supports and Fdps are MUCH better

Hitscan tho

Kinda even

I honestly Arche is Top B low A tier HS

[twin bloom]

Using results to determine which player is better is expected

From you

[next mesa]

uv could be better tbh

twilight's mechanics are only B tier

[twin bloom]

I am not gonna say anything

But i remember when people were convinced UV would be a downgrade from gangnamjin

Strange time

Imo

[full lichen]

??????????

Gangnamjin played for Florida

[next mesa]

he meant to say iris

and he's right misinformed people did think that

@cunning patrol @devout path https://twitter.com/OfficialBoaster/status/1549014827749834753 they winning today

FNATIC Boaster (@OfficialBoaster)

I was saving these for the finals but I think we need them for today!

#bts #VALORANTMasters

Likes

3042

Retweets

158

Twitter · Jul 18, 2022, 12:54 PM

[cunning patrol]

Real

[next mesa]

tbh they gonna pound

leviathan to the ground

imo

[north relic]

it says 6v6

they were too lazy to change it

[twin bloom]

Their was a rumor that FLA

Would sign all lf AT

And people on reddit made that claim

[full lichen]

Oh ok

[next mesa]

oh yeahh

would've been sick 😭

[twin bloom]

Imo it probably would have meant a middling ATL team

No pelican

And no uv or ojay

[next mesa]

of course

[twin bloom]

Probably would have had a masaa crimzo backline

Which is tragic

Imo

[uncut drum]

LETS go london

[plush grail]

to be fair 2021 masaa and current crimzo could be solid

masaa is just dogshit rn because he has 0 mental

[next mesa]

no he was always ntohing special

imo

[twin bloom]

Masaa was imo always a mid lucio one trick

Excepts in s2

[plush grail]

he isnt but im pretty sure masaa's performance is 100% dependant on his team

[twin bloom]

When he was a top tier

Lucio one trick

[cunning patrol]

Crimzgoat

Imo

Also why

Is this cord saying players are better than owl players

After 1 contenders game

[plush grail]

who said that

[twin bloom]

The people saying arch>hydron?

Lol

[cunning patrol]

.

[plush grail]

who the fuck is arch

[tropic herald]

Contenders is playing Jq Lucio Brig

😭😭😭😭

[plush grail]

sounds like a fun meta

[devout path]

This is the diff of losing fracture or not

[next mesa]

derke will

nullify taco

their only good player

they should secure the W

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1546556611354845190

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Calling all clairvoyants 👁🔮👁

Lock it in for the #OWL2022 Midseason Madness Perfect Bracket challenge!

Likes

351

Twitter · Jul 11, 2022, 6:06 PM

bruh wat

[next mesa]

guess i should do it

[worn falcon]

imagine getting 50k

[next mesa]

who picks first again

shock

glads

seoul

fuel right

[cunning patrol]

Melser

Is the goat

Taco was not that good

Against xset

Melsgoat was owning tho

[next mesa]

omg yeah

i forgot

[cunning patrol]

Mindfreak

Mako

Marved

Melser

All goats

Of the game

[next mesa]

moanster

🔜

[cunning patrol]

Mroud

[static pond]

Anyone having problems with them pick ems?

The*

[next mesa]

Taco is fucking @cunning patrol i was wrong

[cunning patrol]

I will tune in

Tech pause 😐😐😐

[blissful gull]

are apac teams not in hawaii?

[last nimbus]

They are

[solar trout]

Ngl those sprays are actually a good reward for watching owl this tournament.
Hopefully my pickems aren't as bad as last tournament......

I was doing not bad until kickoff clash hit and my points fell of a cliff

[ebon aurora]

My bracket has Seoul winning it 4-3 against Glads in the final

[last nimbus]

Why are they limiting pickems prices to United states and france and germany

Thats so oddly specific

[frosty patrol]

Laws

[ebon aurora]

probably because they're the easiest countries to do money transfers to from the US?

idk

[frosty patrol]

Nope

[frosty patrol]

Also many countries either have weird sweepstake laws or something similar

[fathom igloo]

I think NA was supposed to travel to Asia

[ebon aurora]

for today's matches I have 3-1 Reign, 3-0 Shanghai, 3-2 Fusion, 3-1 Outlaws

[frosty patrol]

correct

[last nimbus]

Huh

When are they arriving in hawaii

Or are they in a different state

[willow tartan]

because they would lose so much money if they allowed me to do pickems (i am always correct)

[frosty patrol]

They’re playing from Asia?

did you…

miss the entire fucking point of hawaii for the last 2 years

[trim shadow]

Hawaiin surfer casting korea??

[vagrant cargo]

Crazy how da ronto will sweep shanghai

[full lichen]

Ngl I wanna see Profits retire then get replaced permanently with HeeSang and Stalker

[trim shadow]

S tier graphics

Also strange that contenders rosters

Are deep

But owl is the oppsoite

I guess if players get called up then its a failsafe

This is more evidence we need a expansion to owl

[full lichen]

@willow drum

[hot onyx]

I wish I could replicate your faith for my own team

[last nimbus]

Idk i just assumed they got flown over to hawaii cause it was close

[frosty patrol]

I have complete faith in the guangzhou charge winning the summer showdown and you should too @hot onyx

[last nimbus]

Never really thought about it

[hot onyx]

Of course I do, I was referring to my old team

With the good dps line and shit everything else

[willow tartan]

I wanna see you burnt, hung, boiled, gutted, quartered and shot.

[devout path]

@tropic herald Eu sux

[tropic herald]

REAL

[sullen berry]

Hot take shanghai should be DQ for being able to fly their team out of Shanghai, causing all the NA teams to move to Hawaii for them

[devout path]

So does ur mom

[hot onyx]

Kai Kevster and FunnyAstro are good enough

[devout path]

U want to see Seoul lose but it won’t happen

[devout path]

We’re talking about the better game

Cuz fnatic (Eu team) is beating up the LATAM #1 seed

[hot onyx]

They’ll join you in about three years

[devout path]

?

[cloud latch]

CHADI

[devout path]

Chadi is the super of ow2

[hot onyx]

Overrated for top tier skill on one hero?

[devout path]

Yes

[last nimbus]

So are there games today

I thought there were but i didnt see any on pickems

[willow tartan]

yes

[last nimbus]

Why are they so late

Bruh

[willow tartan]

cause the players are in a different part of the world

so the timezone is different

[last nimbus]

Right

[hot onyx]

Compensation for timezones in na and asia

[devout path]

The players are in hawaii and asia

[last nimbus]

Man im gonna have to rewatch those games in the morning

Bummer

The games between na/apac teams will they be played on kr servers?

[willow tartan]

Tokyo

[devout path]

LOL

[willow tartan]

they have a special underwater cable that connects hawaii to tokyo

[devout path]

@tropic herald nice camera work

[tropic herald]

eu moment

[last nimbus]

Wait how much ping do they have

Both sides

[devout path]

Like 100

Maybe 70

Somewhere around there

Anyways you should all watch this game

[last nimbus]

Umpf

[willow tartan]

90 ping

[next mesa]

@devout path dude

fnatic

[devout path]

Fnatic should’ve won already

If they lose this I will cry

[last nimbus]

Well 90 ping isnt bad for overseas i guess

[next mesa]

HE STUCK IT

HE FUCKING STUCK IT]

WAFAIGNWSOUWSRNIPUOGSENPGIUWES

[last nimbus]

But still its pretty weird that it has to be this way still