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Mako is10x better than him
i know right
inb4 paris hires entire team peps next year and sells them to other teams the year after
It’s on live
no
Dephh is a horrible player compared to mako
I haven't paid much attention to paris
troll teams aren't the most helpful to analyze
Smoking that LATAM pack
I will say apac has been popping the fuck off these last couple tourneys
granted iceland had a troll fnatic and I think fpx couldn't go
am i the only one who likes the design of contenders streams more than owl
what's different
Aryin Liqipedia photo 😭😭😭
Lol ayrin and bcj both trying to beef with players better than them by a lot
Also bcj and stax aren’t even that similar in hero pool
Zest and stax both play initiators
bcj about to get hard diffed by buzz kj
I kinda wanna see Logix replace Hydron
Sucarex Mercy????????????
Oh, they have Pharah
None
this muffin is another muffin right?
Xset just horrible
lmao yeah
why the fuck Tendies have 4k/60fps while OWL struggles at 1080p?
they would get stomped
by drx
as well
bcj wit hthat fried chicken nerf fr
FNS
has been getting better
individually
Agree
Maybe my racist dms encouraging him to play aimlabs worked
Zekken and cryo vs the world
Sad
He's better than Hydron and I think he deserves a second chance
Hast he been in the league for like two years?
Logix was incredibly mid or worse every time he played after s2
he is nowhere near
hydron level
there's a reason he never played over aspire on toronto
And ya hydron been better
@cunning patrol maybe comeback?
it'd be hard cuz victor's having a good game rn
when victor is on optic pretty much doesnt lose
yea nvm
sadge
Marved is the best
when is he not
yayster looks back
which is nice
the 2 asians carrying xset
not surprised
Agree
optic 2-0 gg
@next mesa bcj losing a frenzy 1v1 to someone with 70 less hp??!!
fraud player
Optic flaming bcj cuz bcj said him on crashies were on the same lvl
lmaooo
not even close
if we are talking crashies vs stax we can have a discussion
although
its more like crashies vs zest
bc i watched the BcJ moment
no
They got ecod
im not powerful enough
It was a joke -,-
True
Logix was better than Hydron in 2020 and before lol after that, Hydron just diffs h XD
Gave a basis
For that claim
Hydron was not in owl that season
My basis, is that it was a joke
And also that is like saying
He was in contenders lol
So,in s1 he was better
Solid take
Is funny
Imo
What
I believe oddyseyy play today
charge's actually looks really good wtf
wait link for contendies
im watching csgo rn but i like contendies
Just search ow contenders
found it
On youtube
wow
Ok
What kind of nutjob behind this poll making decided Aimgod is a support MVP candidate 💀
coilest is closer to mvp canidate
architect kekw
the true mvp
FOR THE DPS ONE MERIT IS IN THE CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF KEVSTER
He is superior to Shu
either shu uv or finn
why is everyone talking about viol2t
in the comments
these polls r bait right
hopefully
It’s called forcing interactions
OTHER (Comment below!)
ya
Instead of FiNN or Shu idk, must be something in the water
It’s called impression farms u idiot
i hate overwatch league
majed is also benched LOL
FiXa 3rd best main support in apac and 7th best overall according to this top mind
not top tier unfortunately
the only heroes he is top tier on is bap zen
maybe brig
So most flex supports and brig?
That is a flexible hero pool
Imo
Half of the flex support hero pool
Moria is irrelevant
Who cares
Fielder cares
He plays 2 of 3 champions in his hero pool to an elite level
Viol2t brig gets fucked by Alarm brig
And is top tier on brig
Which is not his main role
Also his ana always has and always will be a solid
A tier
Is he really in the top 5 for brig?
vindaim
Vindaim
xerneas
Yveltal*
As a pokemon fan I disagree
the name
Xerneas >>
Xerneas nicer name
frill is also an anime name
bazz0 dislikes japan?
its from wep
This is going in my cancel folder
I like goat games
Like ff14
Which was developed
In the japanese region
I believe
ff11 is better in every shape and form
True
inch resting games today
Not UA
Sadly
Thankgod gforce got rid of magicm8ball
Woulda been sad to see him win a contenders match
yoooooo
pizzademon ????
either way most of the teams that i think will be any good are playing today so thats coo
cool
Fair fights
God I just want to watch KR so bad
I love watching a region with more than one team worth of OWL level talent
Yo Arrow is back?!
And their main support is the kid who was benched for Superich on CC!?!!
Surely UA wins a title this season!!
ok so basicaly
if i am getting this right
8 matches happen
8 winners go to a playoffs
If odyssey doesn't win. NAC players are not allowed to believe they are OWL level
Sadly
Odyssey has to win by default
For the NA region to remain stable
and then the top 4 of those playoffs get to go play with 8 teams that are already qualified but are also playing in the playoffs and qualifiers
Marrville is just odyssey
With rakatack instead of joobi
And tr33 instead of king
yeah but i am looking at liquipedia which might be wrong and it says UST is also qualed with 0 players
who i dug through
and they are just maryvilles spot
university of st thomas
and according to liquipedia
redbirds, ua, odyssey, wisp, altoria, dice, pirates and ust are all qualed for the later tourney
but all those teams are also playing in the event that qualifies them for the other 4 open spots !/
I love how contenders has 4K and owl doesn’t
I love how Contenders has Sanguinar and Fusion doesn’t
If the contenders meta is the same in owl
idk
Glads gonna go hard
Glads gonna never lose
also this will not be played in owl imo
i have 0 clue how this is the comp being played
Contenders meta
imo rein mei should just fuck it over
i think its iq check comp
and owl teams have larger iqs then contenders
except g force
and prob sbu
Me and my team just played Genji and Winston (I'm Winston) against a Mei lmao
make a team only using contender players from 2020
o2 blast
yeah but imma just use gauntlet asia
for shits n giggles
MN3/HeeSang/Stalk3r/GagA/LiGe/vigilante/1987/ChiYo
super team from gauntlet 2020 asia
Add in idk Nohill
boom
good team
wait pirates won dorado?
i thought darkmode was playing better the whole time
p3t9l looks really good
Fleta just got fined $1000 for taking a shit in the team sink
436
He's alright
Could make owl if he grinded hard enough
Look, all I'm saying is I've never seen LiGe and OPENER in the same room together.
cloudy was underrated on s2 paris
i remember that him being dropped from glads was a controversy
but i dont remember what happened
Before hadi people thought he was best EU MT
To bad french nepotism cost him a starting position
except for rare lullsish simps yeah
and benbest fans
Nah it was benbest simps
this match makes me think that coaches or whoever came up with that jq comp simply did not think
2nd was lhcloudy
sad benbest never got on paris over daan
yes but he had the 3rd most votes for best because some people simp lullsish ellivote duo for some reason
Their even
Daan is more flexible and the far better wrecking wheel
But daan got trialsbux to keep him on
benbest got rolled by t3 players last year
op
Yeah
And benbest is only doing good now
nico god hand diff
playing for access is my favorite team
benbest is peak Main tank paradox
He's accused of only looking good when his team is good
I can accuse ans simpage
but main tank generally only looks good when their team is good
cloudy decay void
imo he's a solid middling mt
sounds like such a good GOATS lineup
They got cloudy in 2020
Well at least benbest still has more titles than carpe
oh right
But he was benched mostly
i just remember that they specifically didnt have him in rein metas
so i got 2018 and 2020 confused
ngl if glads hard one tricked rein with cloudy in s3 they would have done better
cloudy was on glads to be a silly guy
pizzademon 
about to coach a contenders team to a title this season by just telling them get the fuck off jqueen
@tropic herald no owl this weekend?
mm
are they playing jq on the new patch still?
starts monday night
ive been so busy this midseason
patch doesnt change that the hero shouldnt be played
true
if u have night shifts i think u can watch the games easy
double FS poke comp/rush/dive should roll her
depends what I do, but I havent really been able to watch
jqueen is legit just a rusty swiss army knife
playing into rush
just play rein mei
play into poke just do ball
like idk
Junkerqueen abuses bad players
but is ass
the only way this comp makes any sense is that its not hard to teach people how to play it
she might legit be the worst rush hero
bastion is the 2500 skill check and jq is like the 3.2 skill check prob
i have not played orisa enough to know how goo dshe is
horse is actually so, so bad
dw it also has encores, monday to thursday are all 4 game days :)
Orisa gets outclassed by every tank for any job you need her to do
also her ult blows
orisa's ult is a skillcheck
are ua in na or not
idk
this comp
just is so strange
play sojourn bc busted
play jqueen for reasons?
play brig to try and nullify jqueen
play lucio for rush and to counter rampage
play genji bc fun !?
but then you just get this frankenstein comp that is so weak to mei wall existing

arrow played the funny hitscan hero well when i was paying attention
ua dropping qoq is the biggest mistake of my lifetime
wish i could watch player povs
god
i do not get how this comp
well
i get kinda
but like
it feels so half baked
So are you
You don’t see us complaining this much now have you
okay but do you agree this comp
sucks
jqueen sojourn genji brig lucio
They were one fight from losing first map
that is an odd metric
To a team consisting of momentum pizzademon
to measure a teams success
Sznz
My opinion on that comp is that jqueen is bad
many solid teams
And dynasty
Imo
Play monkey
Best tank
Monkey sig or zarya
Tr33 king far better
i just said that
yeah its a stupid comp and its built around either stoping the jqueen or helping jqueen but like
u idiot
ehhhhhhhhh
Or rein maybe
Ok
This is coaching nepotism not playing lab imo @twin bloom
Ok
Also imho
Aeko and doomed>dynasty
Dynasty is a terrible player
Agree
Play
Is goat
basically from talking to a lot of people i have determined the following: jqueen comp is just easier to play so they play it over objectively better comps because they did not have the scrim time to prep them ?
Then don’t watch na contenders
Disagree
Their are a solid
12 good
Players
In NA
Rn
They’re in na so they look good
These 12 were good
how are you going to say who is good when this is the first day of the whole season of play
Dove
Is rlly good
Etcc
Imo
It is obvious
@twin bloom ua
Ashe is meta the west is just idiots
Are dominating
just watch the game lol
He was benched for PB
Idk how that can ever happen
And benched for rakatack lucio
At his peak
And before rak
Got good at lucio
It is sad
tbf, pfa comp is just objectively awful, and even worse on this map than normal
They should play
Lab
They will win
Imo
Snowl is a nobody
Unlike laboratory
Imo
Is bono a MT
Player
no clue
bono is an OT
they signed TWO off tanks
idk maybe high ground contesting ?
genji and echo are both thrown into that slot
they looked pretty good for the first few maps
genji can go to highground however that does not change the comp sucks ass
genji just adds another layer of ???? to the comp
coliseo was shaky though
bc it just doesnt fit
Genji do be useless without support
Just go goats
lucio brig zen has never failed in the past
Why r they so dumb
just play good comps l o l
I would’ve gone goats if I was them
me too
So weird
coaching failure maybe
They should rlly put a sixth in the lobby
fr
Chengdu style
show me the chadmond tracer sombra echo brig zen comp
nvm not echo widow
i want to see widow
lol "playing for access"
ball dva sombra brig zen 
wheren tracker ?
why arent they playing jqueen 
arrow seems to be better than snowl
Lab needs to be in
He wouldn’t let arrow do this
@twin bloom yoppin seems like a big fdps
Same with arrow
Imo dynasty gapped him map 1
But i stopped
Watching
After that
Giga gapped
Control just silly
Dynasty
Map
And snow owl
I guess
as a person once said
koth is the only map type where the worse team can win
idr who even said this
Because koth
Can be won through mechanics
Alone
Same as push
Imho
Solid take
Made by a knowledgeable individual
Imho
Why
bc the na players that dm him play next week
NA contenders resumes on july 25th
When good players like
Rokit.king tr33 etc etc
Play
He was on very high ping
And BW was a troll team
Imo
Did not take the game seriously enough for the high standards
Of NAC
He just managed to look braindead in NAC
Lol
Like
That is very hard
To achieve
@willow tartan shd sucks
Very non based take
i will kill you
im gonna troll you
Reported for harassment
Reported you for threatening my safety
Reported for cringe
Reported for memeicus
I was not threatening you
You wanna be threatened?
💀
We’ll have ow world cup this year?
Imagine being stuck in the middle like chengdu

A team whose budgeting is unfortunate, but hey, I reckon is better than s3 leave
Nope
Chengdu Hunters always had problems
I've always said they only were good last year because Ball was really really good
Friendliest Memeicus message
GUANGZHOU SEASON
BABY WOOOH
LETS GOOO
I LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE FUSION IS SHITTIEST TEAM IN APAC
what a wonderful day.
(was on camp trip so couldnt check ed)
Chengdu will be the worst
No they won’t lol
read esports-announcements challenge
Nisha lucio sucks but his brig and mercy are still infinitely better than FiXa
at least if you watch the games
Bros a fucking Fusion fan and whines so much about his team
fuck you i am not a fusion fan
Yes you are
i am a MN3 ZEST and Carpe fan
Embrace your roots
Sans you somehow are so whiny
Fusion is not too bad
Top 4 APAC
they are top 4 apac off the backs of the dps line
Chengdu is not the worst team in apac
Belosrea is a dogshit feeder that has lost them countless maps
It’s def philly lol
FiXa cannot time an ultimate or punish a dive to save his life
Chendgu has a solid tank and support line and leave
its spark
Philly has mn3 and zest and throwers
and Aimgod is the worst flex support in apac when he is not playing zen
aimgod isnt a thrower
All of them are throwers
aimgod is a cool owl player
he throws when he plays ana
shuts off the switch that allows common game sense
Landon has a bigger hero pool than "zen"
Aimgod can play Ana
So can viol2t
this mf thinks Fusion is better than Hunters
and possibly beat charge
and that FiXa Belosrea is justifiably better than GA9A Nisha
Ga9a nisha is infinitely better
Little did he know
little did i know how hard MN3 and ZEST could carry
a team
valiant and charge are interchangeable
that is worse than their contenders roster
I would probably put spark with Seoul and Shanghai but that’s my spark bias
I’m so happy mn3 plugged in his monitor 🙌
I won’t say they are until they play
charge have awful coaching so I am holding back
Jazzy at least make a thoughtful bait
on my decision
Xerneas is astronomically better than unique
Mn3 had 1 good map before that Seoul game
So I’m very much holding back
This stage
charge with nohill are 3rd and in spark tier
he had like 5 good maps and the rest of them Belosrea threw too hard
or Carpe started
sadly they do not have nohill
It is true sadly
lose all reliability in one sentance challenge
fusion players ranked
- Zest
Tier Break x2 - MN3
- Carpe
- Fury
Tier Break - Aimgod
- Belosrea
Tier Break - FiXa
His ass did NOT watch Philly vs Seoul
Mn3 has higher peaks but is more inconsistent
mn3's average value per game is boosted by having the best dps performance of all time
Yeah
so his average is higher than it otherwise would be
The one game he played good
MN3 fits in the same ZEST tier break and there should be a separate option for Aimgod off zen
it's almost like you choose to not watch the first two games vs Dragons
He got baptized by lip in those games
Jazzy hasn’t actually watched any philly games
real
Is Aimgod really that bad on Zen?
Then ur sadly an idiot
Ironic
no, Aimgod is good on zen but horrible on everything else
No he’s bad on everything else
except moira possibly
Moira just got reworked
That’s a solid hero pool
zen moira is not a good hero pool for a solo flex support
Fixa plays Ana
ah yes so put Aimgod on brig
And bap isn’t a real character in apac
Jazzy you are losing all credibility you may have once had
In my analytical opinion (I once played in a diamond lobby PS4 support) Aimgod would make an amazing widow/Cassidy
How many main supports are in owl
16
17
Lucio brig my beloved ass comp
It’s like rush but worse
@feral wing thoughts on mn3??!!
Who is that random
Idk but his bio is among us so
he had one good game and now people think hes the goat
I say trustworthy
Jackerco u should rank the Philly players
I’ve been saying he’s been rlly good this season before the game
But last stage
Cuz ur both idiots
Addi ur not smart
im sorry but that is false and you should be punished for spreading misinformation
Why are vct games today boring
Jazzy you asked ur friend to help come back up ur dumbass opinion
Idk who he is
Who the hell are you then
Just see him on twitter
anyways
Flaming mn0
mn3 has been invisible in every game leading up to this seoul game
Just like shy
he used to have his one or two pop-off moments per game which made the dumb people go "omg so good" but in reality he was doing air for entire matches
Guild FPX, XSET Leviathan, tomorrow is Paper Rex Fnatic and DRX Optic
Shy was pretty poor compared to this stage last stage
he was nuts in the seoul game though
Hot take
if mn3 keeps up his performance from the seoul game hes a top tier hs
Aimgod dps>MN3
Tomorrow is some rlly good games
Optic sweeping sadly
?
Xset pull a guard
Btw
Guild fpx is gonna be a stomp by fpx
Cuz suygetsu is back
I believe
He is
They were doing that anyway
average Carpe fan
That’s just jazzy’s alt
Well I mean, they aren’t even able to play from their facility
It is not
The only good map from mn3 this stage u can show me is the one against Leave on circuit
it is almost like a player won't play to their highest potential with bottom 5 shitters
Before the Seoul match
on their team
yeah im a carpe fan, doesnt change the fact that mn3 has been bad this entire season
Obvs
it's almost like you fail to watch Belosrea feed his guts out or FiXa whiffing 70% of his sound barriers
Disagree
if he keeps that up hes a god, if he goes back to his prior level hes mid
its almost like you fail to watch mn3 suck ass
He looks C tier in some of the games but he is a solid low A tier
belosrea was bad this stage ill agree with that
and fixa is a fraud
that man should not be in owl
I am actually nicer to mn3 than odd people like jackercope
but it doesnt change that mn3 also was a major issue for fusion
Belosrea has fed all season
seeing as he never even did his job
the man cannot 2v5
how is that a made up narrative
are the voices talking to you again
@hot onyx send me 3 good maps from mn3 that I have not mentioned
one moment
i swear these people dont watch fusion games
So basically only maps from first stage
i literally watch every single one of them
mn3 isnt bad
obviously
hes a very talented player
but he just hasnt shown up
at all
he has been missing for this entire season basically
except for this latest game
He’s only a rookie tho and needs time
Agree
