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Who is the marketting director 
is green dye like more expensive
I WANT A LONDON SHIRT WHEN CLOUD NINE WHEN
Must be?? Cause hangzhou is 75 but shock is 90
Even tho shock is white gray black
what dye is on shock jerseys loll
My bad its 75
Gladiators seoul paris dallas shock( double checked) all have 90 dollar jerseys
Everyone else falls between 75-85
I think it’s the orgs that have a say in the price
Then what the fuck is dallas doing 
As it stands they are the most popular teams i believe
I guess seoul to if u ask koreans
Be dependant on the revenue split
Think the org will asked for a set profit then the league will add on the rest
It cant be more then 30 70 
Considering the teams still have to pay the org millions in fee’s
Do the shock or something have a website?
Just to hold there spot
All cost the same in Pound sterling so might be an US issue
£64
Might cop one tbh
Get one of the nicer ones tho
I would like to get the atlanta hoodie and jersey but jeez man 
I shouldve gotten one from back in the day
I wan a spitfire one more than anything but
I can’t fucking wait 30 years you know
I would've liked to buy a shanghai dragons indentured servant
Buy? I thought those were free 
Apparently na teams are losing money unless then win the tournament
So my random uniformed opinions are Spitfire, Shanghai, Spark and Outlaws win and will go against Glads, Shock, Seoul and Fuel
Wouldn’t surprise me tbh
There a article
Not the best source but apparently they have to pay for there travel stuff
From there the loser bracket will be Sptifre-Toronto, Shock-Mayhem, Spark-Reign and Outlaws-Fusion
I think it came from a Pelican stream originally from what I heard
I did see the Glads head coach said something about it as well
Ya
And I wondering who win between Dallas and dragons
dragons
DRAGONS
Or GM
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This is what he said
Ya and better tracer
No guarantee either with airlines having labour strikes as well
Oof that sucks but it true riot able to do a lot more somehow they probably have more money put in there eSports a lot more
Cause riot care about their esports I like activison blizzard
Ye they do
Idk if u didn't realize but owl teams have been losing money for 3 years in a row
Owl orgs have not recovered since the pandemic
Ya because they have to pay a lot just to get into the league
Almost every eSports has that
Teams are always losing money if they're loosing
Only org esport I can think of that doesn't is League because the amount of fans and merch being sold
Even then teams in league are still losing money
thats fucked up
I think it needs to be there tho
There needs to be an incentive to try your absolute hardest imo
Other sports fight not to be relegated but that isn't a thing in owl
So they need a different incentive and it's fighting to make money
Shu is missing 
Almost every team is bleeding
Which is why im so adamant on going back to the original model of city to city lan matches or weekends maybe months
get people in the seats and give the orgs some breathing room
Like yea pre’s opinions might be a bit much but hes not wrong
The current leauge managers are shit and incompetent where as other leauges have found work arounds and ways to accommodate there schedule here we are still locking teams away from the fans and what owl is suppose to be
Its something like they want the teams to pay close to 10 mil maybe even more just in there spot cost
And some orgs have cod leauge spots to like paris philadelphia new york
How the fuck is cod running lan and even running lan with amateur teams
and here we are in owl refusing to lan when half the leauge is on one continent
east vs west matchup*
Yes
and if seoul isn't lacking a brain they pick a apac team
because they know they can beat them
yes they will pick fusion
doesn't fusion have to win the match first lmao
chances are they wont even be pickable
fusion beat seoul
either way
spark is also very good
im predding reign, dragons, fusion, outlaws
outlaws is the clear easiest pick
so shock probably pick them
next is glads which have dragons fusion reign
should have forced as much as possible na vs apac games on day 1
if i had to guess they probably pick fusion
so seoul are left with reign dragons
seoul get shit on by dragons™️ so they go reign
i think seoul end up with reign imo
I'm predding london cause I hate reign dragons cause defiant is nonexistent fusion cause they must get 2nd and mayhem cause outlaws are ass in playoffs and I believe 🙏
mayhem suck
very true
mayhem is legit just there to fill the empty space
better than justice
fuck that team
mayhem is a overall mess
justice is a coach mess
if they just replaced the actual hacks that coach them they win
if fusion lost to seoul we would have seen a lot more NA vs APAC
It's really unfortunate
VAMOS
the biggest fucking leeches in owl
it's impressive how badly coached that team is
VAMOS KRU
paris fan talking
LOL
@devout path Leo is so fucking good
dfoxxed
Get rid of sup7eme already
uhm that's not the real sayaplayer right
He is not
Agree he is not a bad coach
He is a bad coach
The titans lost that game cause they were fucking idiots not cause they were out played
What basis for that claim
a team of mag, decay, happy, vigilante, and krillin only won against a team of false, aspire, mirror, masaa, and aztac because titans forgot how push works
that's fucking unacceptable
My guy have you watched Washington this stage
They lost because skairipa is a terrible FS who choked at the end, mirror is the worst dps in ow 2 history, and because sup7eme is a good coach
Imho
Aspire wave false and aztac
Good players
Mirror skairipa and masaa
Not so good
Imo
Was a strange
so idk why i engaged
I agree with my viewpoints unironically
Either way Justice shouldn’t be this shit 
You do not
A team with good players
Should not be that bad
Imo
Titans have good players and are bad because not all their players are good imo
Same as justice
I agree
Almost
Mirror is bad
So is skairipa
But
Mag and kalios
Greatly equalized
The matchup
🧢
That's still a 3v4
🧢🧢🧢🧢
as if im gonna read that lmaooo
fucking 2 second attention span
tldr: moira orb has 2 cds
1 heal 1 dmg
dmg is an explosion that does 50 dmg
thanks babe
and weakens 75%
heal is 250 instead of 300
so moira is even better at 1v1's now
imagine dmg orbing a high noon
Can't wait for Dallas to play Guriyo in the tourney XD
Can't believe certain individuals claimed that guriyo was better than edison
might legit be kinda crazy because Moira can fade behind, orb the enemy team from behind shields and then the team can rush in with some shit like a rein
i realized this strat is shit as soon as i read "moira can fade behind"
what if moira just like sucks the soul out of the hero she is clicking on instead of that stupid orb shit
like you can weaken indefinitely but its only 1 guy you are clicking on and you cant heal while ur doing it
that'd be funny as shit
So they are adding abilities that disables the entire team now
Cool
Imagine standing in a gateway and suddenly your whole team can do nothing but tickle the enemy team with a feather
yeah u didnt catch the memo?
did kru lose
i didnt finish
duuuude
i wanted them to win rip
does 41 damage
for 4 seconds
pretty sure
then
Me too
kru is the only org in valorant I even like how'd they do overall
They’re facing winner of optic loud for spot in playoffs I think
not sure if ur trolling but this legit sounds pretty good
I'd ask blizzard to hire you but you're legit everythingphobic
i would fit right into the workplace
He jus started underperforming
And this one round mazino killed 3 and got rez in ot I’m pretty sure he trolled comms
omg i saw that
it was 4v2
and they just let leo get 2 kills like for fucking free
yeah i swear he saw him elbow
@next mesa @tropic herald
This is only for lcq
Supposedly
I think they're doing everything they can do get franchising
And after that, they're gonna bring Sinatraa back
I thought sinatraa was still getting pretty heavily blocked from pro play
his ban was lifted ages ago
He can play but I doubt sentinels are picking him up
Memeicus does not discriminate against one identity group
he is still on the sentinels payroll i thought
or was like a few months ago last time i checked
the shitty thing it wouldn't be PR suicide to pick sinatraa up knowing the valorant community 🤡
he discriminates on an individual basis
that's not discrimination
correct
Literally all the pros are friends with him
It’s disgusting
but the word discrimination aids the memeicus smear campaign
at least the owl community excommunicates their rapists
the ow streamer community
though
does not
or at least
it doesn’t excommunicate pedos
predshell 
in my opinion it is of the shity thing and therefore not it
ow is not bottom 3 because chess exists
chess takes the 3rd horseman by default
chess is not part of the gaming community
because it has like a 35% cheating rate online
i am anti-chess
What's wrong with chess
rampant easy access free cheating
there is no more honor in chess
Had to do training
Honestly
I wouldn't be surprised
actual degenerate community over there
Thought I heard some more behind the scenes stuff where riot was trying to prevent him from getting on other teams
Because I assume if he wanted to play pro again it would have happened by now
wtf
woe is him with his 10k viewers and hundreds of thousands of dollars 
It's what you get with a bunch of 14 year olds that sat inside during all of covid
bitch move IMO
ban them publicly
interfering with teams behind the scenes is very cringe for esports
Because he's not convicted
but his public image 😱
who cares
do what valve does and ban people from playing if they were vac banned on their old account when they were 12 years old
He said he would only go pro if the situation was like perfect or something
now that is gigachad gaming
“I will only go pro if prov1de, dreamkazper, ghislaine maxwell and bill cosby are the other members of my 5”
Lmaoo
for now
how are you so sure
a few days ago
I’m not
but if she’s dead just substitute in larry nassar or something
personally i would have put in forsaken
he's a different tier of evil tbf
or matt gaetz
okay true
cheating in video games is despicable
I meant larry nassar
o
it’s not about what sinatraa is it’s about what he aspires to be
tehteh looks severely inbred and dandan looks 11 + severely inbred
dandan looks like a villain from a toy story movie
It happens so much in every sport
that does not justify it
Cuz ur an idiot
Over safety
knowledge can be dangerous but you should still tell people
if not then we would still be in the pre-modern era
I don’t think you should tell the public someone’s address
are you fucking stupid
someone's address is public knowledge
florida mayhem headquarters
Tehteh looks like an ex college frat kid that got dropped from his college and hits the gym everyday and tells people he is still in his frat
And dandan looks like a fucking alien
the someone jokes
they never end


loser bracket?
also you have way too much faith in spark
Thinking shock isn't gonna make a stupid pick and pick Atlanta or shanghai 🤡
if shock don't pick shanghai they are cowards
Shock have to big of an ego not to
they are cowards
Or pick Atlanta for revenge pick
Their not gonna pick ATL
Lol
they are scared of the midseason madness champion shanghai dragons
I am hopping on the shanghai train for this tournament
I would be too
They already got their revenge win Vs ATL
Not in a tourney
i think
First stage was internet + COVID debuff 😎
I can see Shock
toronto will win granf finals
I can't see fusion winning spark
shanghai are nowhere near my favorite team but
they are my #hottake pick to win the year
Hou is actually decent in this meta when they play danteh
when was the last time shock played spark?
not hot take
Houston imo are the worst team that I predded to win in round 1
they are the favorites
hot take to many owl viewers
most of whom have western bias
They are not worse than spark
shanghai is a team you do not bet against until the defeat screen comes up
I think they are
It'll wear off after this stage
when APAC teams roll up
there's always western bias
and it always gets kicked in when NA actually plays apac

we can see outside of the top two apac teams against outside of the top na teams
That Apac has shit scrim
Partners
Lol
The contender teams
Not on par with owl
In ow 2 yet
Worse scrim partners yet still going to be better than na 😎
unfortunately north america is supermajority mickey mouse teams
On average
I only wish that the LAV could play matches against NA teams to expose some of them
I wish as well
Would be funny to see
LAV: 3
SFS: 0?
Unfortunately not happening
Except paris
charge would beat paris, ny, and titans
and washington too
You are wrong
choisehwan would have his way with these mickey mouse na bottom feeders
mickey mouse tourney if apac wins
NA cope as usual 😎
na teams forced to take an entire day of their week to travel to one of the most popular tourist spots during covid while also being limited on playtime
Flame kNight about to say that APAC has better RNG
If they apac does win
while apac has to wake up a few hours earlier
Its gonna be SHD
I haven't even checked in on what apac meta's been doing ngl
Shd going god mode
and gets to sit in their cushy mansions
Only way apac wins
lot of doom, ball, some poke, a lot of ashe
apac does love ashe
FlameKnight is going to ignore the condensed apac schedule in regular season 😎
even last stage they were trying to run her all the time
and there was like
one map I actually liked it on
Oh no apac teams have to play the same 4 teams in a quicker time
Also talking about the tourney environment only, not regular season
Where apac legit gets to stay at their homes and chill while NA players have to fly to hawaii
also again limited practice time
or they get punished
apac is also getting limited practice time to equalise
NA still get higher seeds during tournament because they can face shitter teams 😎
i mean it's shit all round but apac teams aren't getting unlimited practice time while na gets cucked
also they do travel
just like last year
apac team travel out of their house to a designated area
apac has two good teams, two other teams that rotate doing well, then shitters
@split flume what is that thing in your profile picture?
very misogynistic for you to say
I don't think that's being misogynistic
yes it is
think they're just calling you a virgin
i asked who was in his profile picture and then he just said a woman
i guess that persoin's identity is just woman
wow
you called them a "thing"
exhibit a
would argue that's a tiny bit worse
least dehumanising memeicus message
no because i am not assuming their gender
all people are things
not all people are he or she or it or they
but who is the individual in your avatar? @split flume
wow that's very
Philly and Spark, you're right
2020 playoffs: NA
2021 mm: NA
2021 jj: apac
2021 ss: apac
2021 cc: na
2021 playoffs: apac
2022 mm: (apac will assert dominance and take the lead in the regional split)
memeicus are you 16
i may as well be
my brain has deteriorated in the past ten years
my mental functioning is no more
what never going outside does to a mf
that is true actually
Nah no way you are 26
Lmao
staying inside for extended periods of time under artificial lighting chips away at the cognitive process
it is linked to unhappiness
Didn't you say a few days ago that you do exactly that
yes

It does not matter anyways
Going outside I am still unhappy
stay indoors is just amplification
You’re 26?
No
Ok
You live in the Northern Hemisphere?
Yes
southern
85% southern hemisphere
90% of the country lives southern
the most populated island is entirely south of the equator
(2nd largest city in the world)
only indonesian city I can think of not on java is palembang
medan
fr?
I know sampit exists, don't know where it is
also the new capital city nusantara
how do you guys think the toronto shanghai games gonna go
first look at na and apac against each other
toronto are going to get shit on harder than i got shit on in my first martial arts class
3-0 shanghai
i would be surprised if toronto get a point
Shanghai are not a team that is going to beat you every fight
But they will exploit you as you make mistake longer a series go on
Runner not sprinter
yea honestly I feel like toronto has kinda a philly situation where the dps lineup is good but the rest of the team isnt really
plus its shanghai there up against
shoulda been like dallas seoul
toronto lives and dies by their dps line
that would be fun too watch
like every slightly up there mid table team
fr
?????????
finale is the worst fdps in the league
someone carries Florida 😎
heesu is mid
i was mainly talking heesu
that is very fair
muze ch0r0ng and twilight are easily the best players on the team
twilight is the best player on toronto
ch0r0ng is imo
no
but because his role is invisible
Hadi additionally best player on London 
he cannot show that
i mean they arent as bad as uprising or washington or somethin like that
backbone mei clears tbh
but they still arent the greates
twilight is the best player on toronto who plays an actual role
He can if his name was LeeJaeGon
fastro and ljg show off how good they are at ms all the time
You need to be on a good team to show off on MS imo
^
Otherwise you are stuck peeling
fair
ljg, funnyastro, and vindaim are on good teams
But LeeJaeGon is definitely the most IMPACTFUL MS in the league
ch0r0ng is definitely not
last year and this year is going to be
not even fastro has done the stupid shit ljg has on lucio 
Not stupid if work more than it doesn't
Measured aggression
When you play against team that punish you less, aggro more
wub is worse
yeah negatively
nice joke
feedjaegon gets 6 boop kills on a map and then everyone forgets when he ajaxs 4 times and has 10 deaths per 10 the next map
Hi
ok true
what is his background?
its his photo going through canadian customs
oh
lets get funnyastro back too philly lmaoo
we dont need fixa
That’s the smartest statement I’ve heard all day
yessir
Just have to make him fluent in korean before the off season
Even with a communication barrier Fastro would get more value with his monitor turned off than FiXa
honestly
just have one of the dps or tanks on philly play for him
fury has a similar name
no one will tell
Carpe must’ve dabbled in a little brig during goats
And he’s played enough games with Neptuno to get proper value from valk
fr
i hope next season they keep their dps line
I love watching mn3 and zest play
both awesome too watch
Or get this right
They will keep one half of the team and nuke the other
good
They sign perfectly fine main support players that are available
just keep mn3 and either carpe or zest
sign me bro im better than fixas
Nah not either, both is nice
Friendly reminder that while Hyunjae Bliss Jecse and Sanguinar were on the free market Fusion looked at some shitter healbotting his way through NA on a team composed of middling KR Contenders players and thought “perfect”
Yes
I’m already ahead of you in bandwagoning
which skin shoudl i get for phillt
with glads
Reinhardt
?
bru
Glads and Spark
why spark
nah real chads pick teams for their colors
Because I spread multiple articles worth of propaganda during the off season about how they were going to be 3rd apac
Chengdu hunters would have been better than spark if they still had aprita
i cant wrap my head around why philly can beat every team except for chengdu
Tbf that propaganda was based
its like an unbreakable barrier for them
get this chengdu are better than them but not so much better than them that they don’t bother prepping
Because Jinmu plays hyper aggressively into their bottom tier backline that hasn’t learnt how to counter dives
ok maybe im just dumb but is philly really that bad
yes
maybe i just suck and cant see it idk
Very
they’re only anything resembling good when mn3 or zest become jesus
yes because mn3 is jesus
The dps line is dragging this team screaming and kicking to victories
fusion win when their dps ascend to the lord’s throne
Belosrea and FiXa always die first or remain invisible
belosrea and aimgod have had like 2 decent matches a piece
I specifically remember Belosrea going on a 15 second long flank as ball vs Charge on dorado while a team fight was going on and by the time he made it to the top half the team was dead
LIP is Holy Spirit
And I’m pretty sure he got slept afterwards as well
no lip is god’s creator
that is what the holy spirit is
ok then the creator of the holy spirit
Also try watching any Belosrea performance on Gibraltar and try not to cringe
but are their dps soo good that they can beat seoul?
yes
aight i guess
mn3 had one of the best performances of all time
Yes
he single handedly won them the game
damn
Aimgod is ok when he plays zen
reminder that fixa is somehow supposed to win rookie of the year
But his ana and bap are the worst in apac
All the other rookies will die
Blasted natural causes
if crimzo dies do we get the crimzo award for physically fit owl player
no cause crimzo is not the most fit owl player
also they are clearly not the most fit if they die IMO
agree but he’s the fit owl player most likely to die
Even if all other rookies die I’m pretty sure RPEN would win as the temporary substitute for the Gladiators stepping up and carrying
no don’t worry fixa has all bases covered
y woyld glads need substitite
Heck Lego has a higher chance of winning ROTY than FiXa
every overwatch player that could possibly step in and be better would die
Because Reiner is a rookie and therefore dead due to natural causes
Oh shit yeah he’s innocent
Funny lmao
Still they would need someone to replace Patiphan
Ans Kev?
Glads can’t go more than one stage without a third dps
Put skewed on dps
so here are my preds for the first day of games for mm
3-1 london over atl
3-0 HOU over FLA
3-0 SHD
3-2 philly
Too much faith in Philly but good preds
I haven't seen that much apac so to me philyl could go either way
Ur out cha fuckin mind 
3-1 for london when its losers map pick and atlanta being the higher seed gets first pick
says who
what about profit
Shush it's the Cinderella story of London
It will happen in losers they arent making a cinderall run in winners
I will sacrifice my first born if london goes deep without being knocked to losers
if they make finals I will but a london jersy of hadi either losers or grand
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I'm so ready for next week man
We are basically asking london to run through gladiators possibly shanghai and shock
severe shock bias
Houston florida hangzhou are much more satisfactory probably philly
it's gonna hppen you have the man the myth the chad hadi
Makes it all the sweeter when they lose
I'm finally watching the last map of the van was game
Depending who you root for the final five seconds is either the funniest or most painful moment of your life
I think seoul is guranteed tho
Im not predding them to win tho
My brain hurts already
Dont want them to bow out in the 2nd round of losers
Actually i have to pred someone to win 
Sorrry the most bronze behavior this week is the triple c9
I will never let dallas forget this
Im gonna be 50 and telling my kids about this crime against humanity
So in the span of 5 mins each team has switched heros at least 2 Times
WTF DID I JUST WATCH
that was some sloppy OW
levy
20 yes or no questions to guess any owl player of all time
go
I have a player
I am like what happened to the end of the justice game
is he korean
does he have a liquipedia page
did he place top 4 at any event
is he from an asian team
was he active in the 2019 OWL season
did he win anything in the 2018 season
Bringing out the owlel
outlaws or fusion
hm
what
no that wasnt a question
but
THANKS
did they place #2 in any event
no
outlaws
10
are they a dps
Hint levy it isn’t outlaws
Based on your previous question of did they place top 4
Mickey Mouse
but if you used resources other than brain don't do that next time
will let it slide
Does me
Getting pictures of owl logos count
cant memorize
want to play?
not today
Guangzhou???
Hello?
Ur suppose to add pieces not fucking take them away
U dropped eileen cause u didnt want to pay him or negotiate with him and now ur setting urself back further
Yea unique is gone not gonna hurt but WHO is gonna replace develop i want to see this move
what did they do lol
They dropped yongjin( didnt even know he was coaching)
Unique and develop
Wait what happened?
So currently no flex support and no proj dps or 2nd dps
I'm sorry what
lmao what
DEVELOP
I hate this 
Whyyyy
charge dropped develop and unique
Dude has so much potential
they dropped develop, unique and their assistant coach
curious as to see where charge goes from there
If anything develop is the player u should build around
wait
their best player
thats what im saying
i guess they're getting apr1ta
from the acad
which is great
finally some playtimme
But who replaces unique 
Someone help me cause i dont there is anyone owl ready
Unless it ends up being a money trade from another team
youngjin
Guangzhou picking someone out from t3 london style
is gonna transition to a brig 1 trick
they are going to grab aprita and xerneas
What team?
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
from their acad
xerneas
APRITA AND XERNEAS
Wait
did yvetal evolve like a bloody pokemon
demon hours
Rio is the gm
I would believe that
He’s fine
LMAO WE LITTERALLY JUST SAID RIO IS THE GM
Wtf
he's dead
HES GONEE guangzhou gets a new mt!
Xray is stepping on the scene with vengeance
So philly is the only team with a inaugural member now 
Gator on Reign
Guxue on Spark
Insomnia taking over at 4am really pulling through
Go to bed bru
Also if we’re discussing players on the same team since season 1 Carpe is the only one left
Its demon hour no time for sleep 
I am in bed desperately trying to sleep and failing
Turn off your phone
I did
Yea i meant two thing inagural in s1 and then theres inagural for the expansion teams
Try having your eyes closed with brain keeping you awake with nothingness
Don’t think about saying that’s what I’ve doing my entire life it isn’t creative
Why would I say that
Because it is a common fact that you deny my intellect
That is correct
Rio gonna become a coach now or sum shit cause there is absolutely no where for him togo
Unless
New york.. step forward
@sullen berry your day has come
I'm sorry what's going on with the charge
If obi doesnt wake his ass up 
They have imploded
Titans
Also upon realisation Charge possibly haven’t imploded
Titans? Step forward
Let’s look at their contenders team
I mean they have sacrificed there best dps unique and there leader rio
With Apr1ta XRAY and Yveltal
And potentially Kyo for double fs
Yo rio to justice.....
Nah, I'm about to go to bed for an eternity.
Wake up, touch grass, get some new dps and support. Then pretend pretend today wasn't the one day people care about the Charge this much all season
So whose doing the post #esports-news post
i did it
i want to post a picture with it so bad
THERES MORE
ANNOUCEMNTS
AHHHH
im just waiting out the signings
I cared enough to have them above bottom 5 in overall preseason power rankings
yes, you and one other is an exception