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there's realistically only a handful of teams that can win the event
seoul/glads/shd/shock imo
glads/shock more likely to win if double FS stays strong and maps go their way
I'm feeling a Seoul W ngl, but it could be any of them four fr
where my friend tay zonday
this is gonna be a fucking slaughter lol
So how does the pick work
Like how is 1st seed decided between Seoul and Shock
Did the valiant only have four ultra that round?
ezhan took marve1's health pack but marve1 has to kiss up to him since his family pays for everything lmfao
there's always a regular season tally across both divisions
Thank you
imagine valiant reverse sweep
its not gonna be seoul or glads
spitfire above reign
Love it when my preseason rankings come true
sorry, we can be selective with our questions
lets fucking go valiant!!
Profit rlly just fed 3 fights in a row
If Molly doesn't hit that sleep on second point I think Seoul could have held there tbh
in the words of the great flameknight
seoul didnt lose, their enemies just got good rng
RNG diff
becky feed??
that was a fun map ngl
sojourn is actually kinda stupid
Valiant's clutch factor ebbs and flows
I can never judge them based on their player swaps who is making an impact enough to get them a map win
Whereas for charge
I cant see it come consistently from either Cr0ng Develop or Choi
gigachad
Good claim
U rite, it'll be london
bro just described cum
I think glads have a solid shot tbh
Kevster is the best dps in the game rn and their backline is ideal for this meta
I think it's a glads Shanghai finals
Pain
Glads v seoul would be so cool
oh we have charge vs dragons after this
that's gonna be even more of a shit-stomp lol
I don't play comp enough to make a decent analogy but based on the (sparse) information I do know
valiant against seoul is the equivalent of putting diamonds against GMs
Yeah š„²
That is not a correct analogy to use.
That last dorado match actually has me seething
well what would be a good analogy?
Well for starters why do you need an analogy?
I don't think anybody needs one to understand the differences between the two teams
it's just for fun lol
ITS š THE š CHIPS š
can I get caught up on these OWL in-jokes
what's 29:47 and what's with "it's the chips, slam it down"
Valiant lose then?
The 29:47 is from last weekend when the timer froze on 29:47 for about 30/40 mins
Not sure about the chips thing tho
damn
I lost wifi so I was worried what my preds were
Cmon spark
The chips thing is an ad for mccain oven chips that just replays its self about 6-7 times each break
It might just play for eu viewers idk
Iāve never seen it tbh
@candid radish the ad
It literally loops so many times it's making me go insane
Oh that one, yeah I think I avoided watching a game cause of that ad
Legday
I'm sad Orisa hasn't been seeing any picks in OWL so far
she's so much fun now
they made it work holy shit
Alphayi had a pulse bomb every fight btw
what are the hunters doing, eh???? Oo
rip chengdu
Even though they should
Simply na bias
yes
Proper gets roty even though apac is better
proper will get roty
because he deserves it
although if alphayi won
it would be reasonable as well
a lot of rookies
deserve it
Alphayi deserves it the most
if you ask
Proper has been really good but alphayi is better
alphayi clears proper
Everyone in this server underrates spark
Itās not that I overrate spark you all underrate them
you got fourth last tourney
Simply unfortunate
behind clown teams like
da fusion
and shd
when they had internet problems with player problems
Shanghai placed worse than bottom 2 apac team
Placed in the tournament
yes
Remember that time
That
You all called me dumb for rating spark higher than Chengdu
Who plays in na today btw
london v dalla
was this before or after chengdu implosion
This was two days ago
Or yesterday
imagine chengdu with farway in this meta
when
good list
Charge didnāt do that what
New York is better than Boston in this meta
Also as much of a Titans advocate as I am, I donāt think they get their first win against Justice
Sup7eme will hard throw again
Shy did so much
Like normal
Ur smoking something
Maybe but I really donāt care about bottom na teams and the specific ordering of them
I like punk more than nyxl
Therefore Boston is higher
Whenever you believe in the justice they never fail to disappoint
Just like philly
the shy widow
Alphayi has like an 80+% stick rate this game
Whatchu tier breaking valiant for
put those fuckers down there with the rest
?????
āShy isnāt a top 5 hitscanā mfs when Shy makes other top 5 hitscans look like open division shitters (they didnāt watch any footage of his gameplay prior to their statement)
Valiant has looked much better than the rest of them with marve1
so stupid
valiant is unironically
clear of the sphagetti dropping
below them
Just cause marvel and diya fucked for two games doesnt mean they deserve to grace midfield
Valiant are low mid
They donāt actively throw
But they arenāt good yet
The teams below them actively throw the games they play
I think new york is just a smidge better then boston 
im so confused
I think I donāt care about the ordering of bottom tier na teams
close series
damn
how did spark 3-0
Real dove
literally that exact reason is why i pred the hunters
it's not that i underestimate them
i was jus basing it off of previous games
Recency bias I get it
p much yea but im glad spark 3-0'd nonetheless
Spark has a better dps line imo
Lol
Coldest take
Oo chengdu bowed out?
Spark also have the better backline
Apathy i feel apathy
And they have the more flexible tanks
I blame coaching and lge huya being shit at money management
If I was here before the game started I wouldāve predded 3-0 spark but whatever
3-1 shanghai
ok time for another 3-0 lol
Next game
I got 3-0 shd
Ngl I think this was the hardest game this week for me to pred
Spark chengdu
How
I donāt understand where this Chengdu belief is coming from
Did they or did you just look at a scoreboard
And spark losing to Philly didn't help
They are fundamentally a good team but wildly inconsistent
Charge take a map
and absolutely clown on the reigning champions
if for some reason
cr0ng does not pull out
da "Roadhog Time"
then they will get shit blasted
Agree, chengdu don't look good
Are you saying that because they just got sweeped or what
I was a Chengdu skeptic yesterday
I have not been high in Chengdu this season
I lied I think it's Dallas London
Everyone was
This isn't the chengdu I was sold on
Hell yeah
I think I gave it to London in 5
London vs Dallas is heavily dependent on maps
Can't wait for fuel fans to start malding
Cant wait for shock to get sent to losers by atlanta
Choi and develop are trying to stop the rest of the team from throwing sadly
They canāt do enough
They arenāt mn3 and zest that carry throwing teams
Would be funny but I don't like atlanta success
Or leave who carries throwing teams
Who brought the kpop band + farway
finally a based take
wait whats going on here they are all@blond
Haha you didn't know?
It's funny
it will not happen
I like it
I jus looked at the tv lmao
cr0ng tries to take the clutch in his own hands istg
Crong needs to stop thinking heās the carry and realize heās being carried
When farway dyes his hair blonde is the day that charge win a stage
other times you know it's choi and develop needing to work with a better backline
Guangzhou is actually a kpop band lmao
- farway*
Crong is a good supporting tank
Tbh I was kinda surprised the dragons weren't more dominant this stage
fr
The reason this won't happen is because ATL is not making it past round 3 lmao
After watching week 1 of the west I felt like it was perfect for the dragons but I don't remember why they didn't do too well earlier in the stage
They arenāt a dps solo carry type team
also for Shanghai one of their first games showing off their sponsors
not to be racist but develop and CSH look exactly the same
That's what they said last year

I guess they gotta win someway 
They will not
I donāt see it
A. They have to beat London presumably in round 1
B. They have to beat either Glads Seoul Dragons in Round 2 if they do win
Hawk rein rush will carry until we see london
develop has slightly chubbier cheeks ig
Develop reminds me of choi
Asian genes
sometimes the best way to tell apart is how there head is shaped
C. They will then have to beat the winner of their side of the bracket
Whats the reason for this?
D. or they lose first round and have to meet shock in losers
nah I had this going on when mandu joined the charge - it's not weird to ask for a comparison
also thanks @raw ermine
atlanta will be selected by shanghai
East + west combined for midseason?
Atlanta is a 5th seed now right with the 3-0 and houston dropping 2 maps?
yes
Ooh
Yeah we trolled our brains out in regular season lol
Philly for sure losing 1st round
np
seeding is 1. shock 2. seoul 3. glads 4. shanghai
the rest of the 8 teams fight round 1. If atl win round 1, they will presumably not be picked by shock and by dragons instead
Oo its still the top 4 picks?
yes
so atl need to beat shanghai
and then seoul
presumably
Well i have no argument 
to even go against shock
WINNABLE
(who could lose to glads)
Yeah no they're eastern teams
Donāt Seoul and glads have 1 and 2 seeds
They want a hard match
We physically cannot beat eastern teams
Seoul > glads?
wish I had embed perms
but Charge having 1-10 win/loss ration is
hysterical
this is gonna be a fucking slaughter
Yes
i dont think so?
Also yea i have no faith in brad for prepping the team for eastern play
they said on the broadcast
Hell drop the ball
They won kickoff clash
We would lose to chengdu if they were here this year
did they not?
Idk
I don't think so
You think I pay attention to casters?
Casters need love lmao
In the regular season standings shock is only 1 point above the glads but that's not counting the 4 points glads got from KC and 1 point sfs got
So im not sure
Shock and glads are tied point wise but it comes down to map and w/l record which shock wins
Nvm shock 1 point ahead now
Well yeah cause glads are gonna win today
I feel like they should
Oki so glads will be seeded above
And then I believe whoever wins Dallas London will be near Houston for 4th tho
Spark will probably be over shanghai
Not if Shanghai is playing charge
they are now
NA Production mixing the compilation video in real time
My fear is which shanghai shows up to the tournament 
Nah they should be able to
last tourney they had atrocious internet connection so they fact they made it that far is impressive enough
If shanghai wins this 3-0 they are up by 1 on the spark
probably will
Spark still has another match tho
MS need to learn to flex onto FS, FS need to learn to flex onto MS, Tanks need at least doomfist and overall to flex onto the other tanks, fdps need to cover everything pretty much and hitscan need to cover all hitscans plus standard Hanzo/Tracer
whos their next match
They should be I think
i think if spark win both games they are above shanghai
Ye
Glads arenāt competing with Seoul for seeding
Theyāre in different regions
I like Ow2 for that
?
If spark beats valiant they take 2 in Apac if not shd is 2nd
lot more talent per player
mm is a mixed region
Donāt Seoul get guaranteed #1 seed
No
no the broadcasters
Why would they?
in apac they do
because they have a monstrous +28 map diff
It's shock - glads - Seoul Im pretty sure
Nah
No matter who you root for you can't argue with shock being #1 š¤·āāļø
It would be between London Dallas and Outlaws who gets 4th seed
Lmao
thoughts on develops rng on the ashe rn @willow tartan
It says on liquidpedia that seoul have #1 seed in apac
For midseason madness
In APAC
The thing is
The hog comp doesn't work against ana I think
Iāve been looking for like 15 mins
they are not running against the ana
and izayaki ana this szn
not impressive
I'm talking bout yesterday
Because another important factor is that if Toronto swap off zen
nothing else
very true
the fact this is close
is very nice
ns develop
Like finale being a B tier tracer kinda cost them oasis I think
Valiant > defiant
Unless a whole lot of funny stuff happens. Assuming outlaws beat NYXL, if London beats Dallas, outlaws are 4th seed and if Dallas beats London, Dallas is 4th seed. But its still possible for spark to get 4th seed
For spark to get 4th it gets into map diff and I'm too tired to think about that
Nah
Yah
Valiant are even less clutch than defiant
I would pred valiant if they faced off
Somehow
Not rlly
Yes
Both teams get carried by individual plays
And Toronto is better than them on every position except fdps
NA>APAC lol
idek
Like put Toronto Houston London mayhem or even justice in APAX
And they are consistently top 3/4
Put Shanghai/seoul in NA and they aren't even guaranteed to be top 3 (most of the time they should be tho)
LOL
It disappeared 
Bro memorised the link lmao
Magic
I would imagine every map is available if they are choosing maps
I bet Vancouver titans could beat charge
I wish
Yeah
It would be too many maps
Imagine having to scrim that many maps
I feel like they would mostly all be playing the same maps tho cause everyone has been playing the same ones
No
Yeah! And why can't we watch them play volskaya 5 times in a row 
Cause it's not in the game
Cuz 2cp doesnāt exist
Well that too, but because it's not healthy
!!whattoeat
Meh as long as kings row is available (which I'm sure it is) I'm happy
Itās the same map pool as the midseason madness qualifiers
L
Grass
you ask too much of OWL to present the rules to this game
There is no clarification of how seeding works anywhere
that's not the point that they exists, it's where did you have to go looking for it
totally not suspicious link
word
no it clearly wasn't renamed to 2022 KEK
you're the idiot here for downloading files from strangers on the internet
I have checked literally everywhere and there is absolutely nothing on how seeding works for the midseason madness
the LIP Experience
I didnāt download anything
the only info i got
I opened it up in a secure tab
which is downloading it...
shock are guaranteed 1st seed
i didnt send a pdf tied to anywhere
lip moment
It doesnāt lol
of course you could have deleted it right after
but
that's not how pdf files work
Sorry you do realize itās linked via discord right?
??

that is a link that im not going to click
because attachment links for pdf files are downloads
cr0ng smegma
please stop trying to get people to install mallicious files
im reporting you to modmail
Do it
Discord as a matter of fact
Does make all media a link
Idk about stickers
I assume it works the same as emojis
Which I also donāt know
@devout path
Thatās a .rar file
dunno what you're talking about
ashe diff
Dragons looked a bit shaky on map 1 but this is good dragons
Itās ok ur currently in the process of being banned
cope
what
Yes
Lmao
sf shock will lose to titans
or dallad
dallas
Nah they lose to Atlanta in the gf

no
fuck antlanta
Lol
I wish we still had ant working for the eSports venue
He quit last year and they started giving more money to the stupid cod team
Now they only give me discounts on cod merch 
okay so how does atlanta
beat glads
shanghai
Because it's a tournament silly
and seoul
okay.
I own the Overwatch league and donāt know how seeding works for the midseason madness
so you are an idiot?
i do
You donāt
You two sound like kids arguing over random shit in a Minecraft server from 2016 rn
If I donāt know it no one does
gaslighting each other
clearly

stop saying the word gas light its such a stupid phrase
i do not have gas
Remember that time you told me you had to download pdfs from discord
Your right gaslighting isn't real
do you have light tho
light mode sucks
you do
Gaslight gatekeep girlboss
Yall remember when cr0ng was a Role Star
Just accept ur wrong for once
????
and I will continue to say gas light because it bothers you that much
Iām literally not wrong
i think ur discord is wrong
There is no downloading
the king of lockdown overwatch
u probably have a diffewrent version of discord bro
You probably are an idiot
???
Memeicus how about we stop arguing over files and watch your favorite team :)
Oh sorry
which version of discord do u have
You are an idiot
At least we can see SHD facecams now
Not probably
VS 
wdym?
we saw their facecam 2 weeks ago

Fleta doing fleta work
bro I agree so much with this
gaslighting is the most overused phrase I've ever seen
every form of arguing is gaslighting
Legday is amazing
different team, different game
how far theyve fallen when you lose shu happy and nero
what a view
butt
lip is showing us what we wanna see
Once they lost shu the team just never recovered
he wasnt paying attention to develop but doesnt take away that develop is good
develop has gapped almost every hs in apac now
lol noice
DevelopSZN
correct
wait he gapped
fits and shy?
he will gap fits and shy soon
shanghai is losing!??!!
nah
oh
theyre not
DevelopSZN
okay
LIP > your mother
real
develop > my mother
so yes
develop szn is real BABY
in bed?
Is the game over
š
when do teams from both regions start playing vs each other
in 2 weeks
and also atlanta will have no cope material when they lose to the hangzhou spark
kk bet ty

Bench warmer has very based takes today
lol
Plastic probably
MN3 was a tank and support gap
Not at all
Fits is already the best hs
Develop has yet to gap Aspire
purple
develop gapping you doesn't make you worse than another hs
he is destined to gap everyone regardless of skill
lol
shitpost page?
@frosty patrol they replaced QoQ with Cowha
QoQ is better than Punk
damn bro
He isn't even better than krawi as I just mentioned
nah he carried spark alongside godsb
In contenders
I feel QoQ needs to challenge himself in a difficult region
former 3rd generation runaway member
Ah
played alongside Heesu Yaki and Mag
2019 yes
he caught the Michelle disease
Wasn't even top 5 in an ez region
Sadly
held back by frauds like FiXa and Finale
Itsal cheesed ball in a region where main tanks without a shield are foreign
still played well
just not well enough to stay in a good region like kr
I do not believe Victoria would hold his own in kr
against Proper Kilo MN3 Mer1t Develop
TBH UA were just NAC version of BH
UA were only good cause other good teams like marryville and bobby wassabi did not scrim
And trolled
Imo
real
Darkmode disbanded
UA filled with kr rejects
dominating weak region
Uprising academy?
Aint gonna lie to yall
Cause technically they only went inactive
Im pulling for vancouver today
I think many people are titans
Aztac diff
Depi diff
Will probably goto map 5 and supreme subs himself in to play tank
and leejaegon gangnamjin
Post match interview with Fate: "I'm looking forward to facing the LA Gladiators, I want to see how good Reiner really is"
252
Oh yeah those kids
God gamer Fate
Villain arc fate
what is so villainous about fighting reiner?
Had potential when he joined hangzhou but uk how most careers end up joining hangzhou
Reiner being well loved and the hot topic and fate being the old guard from damn near s1 challenging the rookie
"Reiner being well loved"
Reiner being NA*
He is not
Reiner is the # 1 Fate Fan
damn near s1?
fate was s1
lmfao
Is stream on rn
Why
He has stated that he is the best MT from ow 1
And looks up to his flexibility
He looks up to fates flexibility but not muzes????? š¤¦š¤¦š¤¦š¤¦
Damn na players
@vagrant cargo you seeing this š¤¦š¤¦š¤¦
Fate is a solid player
But gagoat was owning him on the wheel
No
Fate had much better
Wheel
Movement
If Fates been doing it since almost the beginning
Then heās got to be one of the best
u can clearly see ga9a is the better ball
ah yes
yeatle (top 3 ball in the league)
Yes ga9a
hes like ball but in OWL
Yesterday
Ga9a was putting on
A generational performance
On the wheel
He also looked up to supers flexibility
based take from reiner
super one of the goats
so sad he didn't get to mtd reiner this season
Honestly
Super got sabotaged
Paid girlfriend to get him to quit OWL, break up after the season starts.
The government needs to investigate this fraudulent activity.
Seems like foul play at competitors hands. Integrity commission is on it
What are you talking about fool
i agree
In the past, eSports contracts specified that for the duration of playing for a team you are not allowed to maintain a romantic partner.
?????
It's true.
proof?
I actually agree with reinbum
Fates longevity is insanely downplayed lmao
His trophy case before he even joined SHD was also mad good
Heās right but still š¤¦
Worldcup and stage 4 winner
Iāve always said fate goat MT
And NA contenders
With agilities in his prime
2017 agilities was a different breed ft
Fr
Why would you be surprised about this?
sounds weird as fuck
Don't you know this was a common thing for Chinese/Korean/Japanese music celebrities as well?
thats different
thats to prevent fans from leaving
nobody is gonna stop rooting for shock because viol2t got a gf
Yeah and having a romantic partner can make you worse at a game because it could mean that your focus is not 100% on the match.
Of course this is not always the case.
But it can result to that.
That is different.
eSports careers were not as long-lived in before times.
If you are not 100% grinding the fuck out of the game, you are going to be passed by people who do.
so u think super got distracted by his gf which made him worse?
No. I think he got distracted by his streaming career.
More flexible schedule, more money
Less worry
Less time consuming
Many ex-pros are streamers and a lot did quit to stream full time.
are you mentally deficient or
can you not see that is obviously a troll post?
its not even the first time i made the same joke
this is coming from the motherfucker from "dutch land"
deutschland is germany not the netherlands
same mf who claims i should speak fluent english because some random civ owned a small part of the netherlands for like a week
god mike classic american move
why wouldnt you speak fluent dutch if you are dutch
english not dutch
it has nothing to do with the whomegalul empires from 3 gazillion years ago
u not speaking english is like a canadian unable to speak french or a chinese not being able to speak mandarin
In the Netherlands, the English language can be spoken by the vast majority of the population, with estimates of English proficiency reaching anywhere from 90%[1] to 93%[2] of the Dutch population. Contributing factors for the high degree of English fluency are the country's small size, dependence on international trade,[3] and the use of subtitles for foreign languages on television, rather than audio dubbing. Dutch children have to start learning English in primary school from age ten at the latest.
From Wikiedia
90-93% FLUENCY
if the language is motherfucking taught in school
it still has nothing to do with your shit theory about some random fuck owning the land like 3000 years ago
Estimates for proficiency ranging from 90 to 93 percent

