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Imagine if Florida had a better support line, that would be scary
Imagine if Dallas had a better dps line
Imagine if glads had a better dps partner for kevster
Imagine if Atlanta had a better mt
Etc
So close to a NYXL win
Pati is good
I disagree
Then you aren't a true pati fan
was this a paris/toronto case
Precisely
Birdering was better but pati is still a good replacement
were a player dragged their team kicking n screaming to victory
How's the game going
no way you said that
I did
i missed the first map and boston are up 1
At the start of the season I give him a C but he has Improved a lot
Patiphan isn’t even a hs player
Not well
I agree
By the countdown cup I'm sure he will be almost an A tier player
If the Mayhem continues to play Anamo Ana imma hurt someone
idk pati’s last 2 matches on the sojourn were solid
he was keeping up decently well with happy
and suddenly boston are slipping on bananas
Gunba typed C9 XD
imagine typing C9 just to watch your team get fuller held
What happened to Hydron
Never pred justice either cuz they are so inconsistent
i pred them vs the titans
This is so bad
i alr made a deal
And in this stage I wouldn't predict fuel either
If Boston 3-0 do they go to the mid-season madness?
I always pred them
Against spark
No Boston can’t make it
i cant wait for shock to play on lan and get knocked out early
My pickems ;-;
its okay, mine are shit also
Where is hydron?
I guessed 3-2 spitfire 3-0 fuel 3-0 mayham
at least your still getting points
You guessed Washington wins?
how are u feeling?
yea, i thought decay might be tired of losing but i was wrong
Rn Really good
As long as XZI stays in, Florida can win
that shatter hurt
Welp, this is going to map 5 lol
i wouldnt say that
theres still 4 min
its the new come back machanic
playing the mei with a sigma is honestly kinda fucking dumb but im not a owl player so
someone should have taken him off the map
yeah
gg xzi is fucking them
honestly hr rlly is
All games have been close today even though they shouldn’t have
the nyxl one especially
It's the script writers doing lol
toronto and justice going down in skill and nyxl and titans coming up with the spitfire
the turns are tableing
I wasn’t able to watch matches today
Mayhem boutta reverse sweep Boston
#EVERUPWARD
So is mayhem playing bad or is Boston playing good
Mayhem kinda threw two maps
Ok
Watch push if you want to see what you expected
I was asleep
Did fuel do poopoo
Can someone tell me the other 2 games
Or nyxl just the best
Scores
that seems to be the question of the day for all these matches
London justice not that surprising
Both 3-2
Cause we are top five NA
Mayhem fumbled the bag
Valentine is pounding rn
its not over
I was just talking about that round
LMAOO
Checkmateeeeee
man this day of went to the D I S T A N C E
overwatch all day long
valentine needs to copy the tracer
Sirmajed was clueless
VALENTINE
WOW
OMG
That was sooooo Fun to watch
omg
MY BROTHER
Poor valentine
WHY DID HE NOT FUCKING DUPE A SUP
Valentine needs a better team ngl
holy shit that was intense
that was a tight day
fr
Crazy fr
Might have been the best west match this season
That was insane
damn. i want more..
Chill
hmm i wonder how long the is gonna be when it ends lmao
stream
Also majed
Someone get valentine a better team
Idk I didn’t watch that
shock losing to dallas
Name a better one? Besides glads 4-0 fuel
Lmao
I would watch it. It was tight
shock losing to both atl and dallas
Shock getting 3-0ed by Dallas
Because shock sucks
👍
on cooldown they lost back to back
I don't like shock, but I hate Dallas more
fr they got boomed
or vancouver
London could possibly win vs them ngl
all the match were 3-2s
its possible given when they last played
MY PERFECT WEEKEND
FUCKED BY VAL NOT DUPING A SUPPORT
its a zig zag of who won also
also, apac needs to kidnap Danny for some interviews. because its unfair to never get any
tru
Yeah, spitfire looking strong tho
but we get those this tourney
shock was the warm up
Wow
cap
I only hate shock
dont we all
I also hate the Nohill simps
i hate it that they act like they always believed
Look at this awesome leadership of a man having his players take wage cuts for his vision
bleeding the owl credit bank dry
Only failed the reign one
is it weird that i think london have a chance against dallas
isnt that the org not nohill
I have them beating Dallas 3-1
Nohill wanted marve1
not after today
hmm
but wasnt his org who did the pay thing not him
the org wouldn’t suggest that
same
I predicted Dallas 3-1, but every game being close
hmm
Did florida win
K good
BARELY
a wins a win
i love when matches last till 8:40pm
the pay thing isn't real?
fr
it was a fake news
i think releasing coldest made it where they didnt have to
diya came out and said everyone was making valiant's reputation bad
Literally fucking psyops clandestine disinformation campaign
Someone is out to get the valiant
fr
Fusion is a BDSM group
the team thats good to never win anything
a little bit of teasing, a little bit of punishment
fr
she didnt have it yet
next week
no soe for the rest of the season rip
its already been that long?
shell be back for the end
Who is replacing
no clue
not sure yet ig well see next week
it will be a girl 100%
Putting Bren on the desk
imagine bren or sideshow come back for it
the stream lasted for 8 hours
dang
6 cause NA started at around 3 here
also adding the Apac encore
ahh
3 close 5 map games where the team that should have fun fumbled a bit but won it in the end
on paper jsutice shouldve won
On paper nyxl beats paris
Supreme exist so that's a -50 points
ah tru
NYXL shows signs of life Gangnamjim good fs bad ms shock to be sure, a lot of it actually, Dallas gargles on cock for a bit, Justice is Justice, Xzi grabs himself from 2020 and fucks up Valentines already broken back
I mean
Outlaws and who else is NYXL fighting?
the thing people don't get is sup7eme was publicly stated to be a 2 year deal
i mean against dallas
He's gone next year
and justice will not pay the rest of sup7eme's contract to drop hiim
How the fuck
that's not how PRE and Keiranthil work (as someone who has talked to Keiranthil for 5 hours out of the last 2 days)
have they not fired him
you have to pay the rest to terminate the contract is what Keiranthil said
i cant wiat for them to ruin vigilante
or gotten him to lay back and get other AC
just like how they ruined mag
if you pay him a large sum to just sit his ass down and spend time with his family
and let actual coaches coach
it'd be better me thinks
maybe a competent head coach can unruin mag and vigilante
Cause they don't want to pay him the entire way this way they don't have to pay him till afterwards
hopefully
that's not how the justice budget works
Vigilante has not been A tier
keiranthil has said that it is lower half of the league actually
not title level
or anywhere near
sad
they need a new head coach and to keep the talent they have
it's good talent
bad coaching from the top, I wish justice fans health
and a better team
Honestly who would be the HC if supreme goes
Dpei
was still LFT
could have signed him as Assistant HC
But he's on titans no and will most likely stay there
also Mr Keiranthil has implicitly indicated that one of the reasons Sup7eme is around is because of connections
and that he was hired in the first place because he could pull players
with Ty Dolla, Mag, Kalios, Decay, Happy, Krillin, Opener, Vigilante
basically rich and stupid
Ty Dolla should be HC
gets a lot of people but moronic
justice do not have the budget to get like
banger
Is that an actually good idea
now a competent hc and worse roster would be better
tydolla is a player development 1 on 1 guy
so not really
Yeah but why not sign Dpei, to be the actual HC and promote supreme to be GM then
sup7eme should not be GM lmfao
Cause you don't get rid of pre
PRE is much better
it's very obvious he is not good but he can get players to sign
if anything make sup7eme the honorary advisor
Yeah sum like that works
just someone to attract stars n then have a competent HC
what has bro done
PRE has done wonders for justice PR, sponsorships, merchandise
Pre is also good at getting recruitments
He said himself he is like I know your management wasn’t good for you come here we are better
get justice a better HC and they shouldn't be too bad
i think i had nyxl > toronto and washington in the preseason
and london bottom 3
which is kinda the reverse of what they are now
I had London last Paris bottom midish
NYXL mid exactly
toronto I think was near NYXL
||Titans > Mayhem|| what was he cooking bro
forgot about flubby pew
aztac stocks
half the community had mayhem 19 so could be worse
who made this power ranking
they’re mine
wot were you smoaking
hey at least I had vancouver 14 and not 11 like sans
good point
for pre-season i think its pretty fair
yeah
Did you see what the justice GM was saying earlier in justice cord
its not bad except for a few
valiant probably too high
90% of them make sense preseason, for vancouver I forgot about flubby pew okay
nah
Bro legit said “we’re building a “reach the playoff” team”
valiant is accurate
yeah its good for the most part
keiranthil or pre?
Keiranthil
they’re building a team that should be middle of the pack and hopefully make playoffs yeah
I was in vc with keiranthil and justicecord admins for like 2.5 hours today and 2 hours yesterday
got mad insight
whos keiranthil
justice finances guy
basically PRE’s office buddy
he is very open to fans and was watching the matches with us
he’s VP of esports business @cloud latch
so he’s actually PRE’s boss I think
if you ask me questions I will answer to the best of my ability
But it’s like 45 paragraphs of info
so not typing everything
Tldr
Justice have a budget in the lower end of the league, sup7eme is signed at least in part to pull players, justice are supposed to be middle of the pack rosterwise, it’s very tough to have fans happy as a mid budget team
They have a good budget lol
not according to a high ranking member of the organization
it’s not budget budget
but it’s lower middle of the pack
whys supreme so respected
So is that why we didn't sign twilight or Smurf this year
very likely
If justice had a high budget they’d not be a shitter team
MT and FS weren't even justice's issues
That honestly makes a lot of sense last year when we had bebe and closer
it's coaching
“if you have enough money you can be always good” - Keiranthil
Tampa Bay BUCS in a nutshell
sup7eme is a 2-year deal rolling into this year and they do not have the money to buy out the rest of his contract and hire another coach
cope ur team ruined vigilante
yes because we couldn’t buy crusty like shock can
i will go to justice and coach them to success 💪
skill issue in teams honestly
hellfire explaining why a large budget difference is a skill issue
also openerfan I'm gonna take stuff you say with a grain of salt just because it's coming from someone who heard it
?
just make money
factual
4head\
Justice is def a skill issue to some extent
every shock fan in this server feels like a cultist
last 2 are verbatim basically
first 2 heavily implied
yeah I'll let the justice do their thing but all the moves make sense now
if there’s not watch parties at justice HQ keiranthil is sometimes in the watch party VC
Theyr coping
They got happy
Vig
Mag
Decay
All high budget players
mr keiranthil basically said sup7eme pulled them kekw
and then proceeded to ruin them
thats implied
not verbatim
imagine being a terrible head coach but pulling all the top players into becoming ruined
sup7eme is the career death of owl talent
tell that to toronto
toronto
Looks cool but is actually shit?
tonroto deifnat
bisharp actually sorta goated
Isn’t it Dark Steel
yeah sucks against fighting types
Yeah that’s a shit typing
it's not terrible
the major downside is that it's weak to like. the 3 best attacking types
and double weak to one of them
At least it has steal so it’s only a little weak to fairy
it beats fairy because almost no fairy pokemon can take an iron head
Me on my way to invent a fairy type that does
especially if it has
a) defiant triggered
b) swords dance
key ring 😈 😈
Mickey Mouse Pokémon
it is a steel pokemon that is not also a rock type so it's good by default
bisharp is not shit
knock off buff made it mega relevant
intimidate is one of the best abilities in the game and bisharp is a hard counter to intimidate
defiant is a good ability
- knock off buff yeah
black glasses sets are funny
nothing wants to take a base 125 STAB knock off
even in gen 5
Ok
it was decently solid
Meta this, meta that, have you ever meta girl?
gen 5 bisharp is nerfed by it not benefitting from weather
and you get rolled by sun and rain
my lilligant is a girl
decent gyarados check for some teams if gyarados didn't live, sd, and sweep
very good UU mon though
iron head
and it's good vs fairy mons
trick room ?
so just get hit nuke shit
run cm giga drain mystical fire and either dazzling gleam or psyshock
never dies vs special attackers
and hits like a truck
i am built like a truck
walls your favorite special attacker
my flash cannon heatran 😈
if you're prepping you pack nuzzle to cripple the heatran after baiting it in
and just take a trade basically
my heatran has both flash fire and volt absorb sadly
but that's only for tournaments where you can prep
Ranbats though 
i have never run a trick room team in my life
my favorite pokemon shits on the galge
dragalge only has shadow ball to deal with him
my hippowdon clears
Slowbro is king with eviolite
Trick room slowro/slowing is even better
slowbro eviolite?
???
????????
kenobi
you're lacking critical information
for slowbro is fully evolved
when i was younger i thought bro evolved into king
Right, I'm thinking of Dusclops eviolite
draco meteor does not clear mega gallade sadly
oh specs
my mega gallade is a psychic fighting fairy type though
so it's immune to draco
man kinda huge
unfortunately there is a hidden rule that if you do 150,000%+ damage to a pokemon you break sash
cannot believe they nerfed FEAR
with dynamax
legend has it dynamax was invented just as a countermeasure
also terrains were invented as a countermeasure
leftovers is also a fear counter
Who we talking about
rattata
mm
yeah ignore that zacian is a dog
Are there any purple pokemon that resemble them at all
and rayquaza mega would be seoul
They gotta have the colors tho
and eternamax eternatus would be london obv
nah too weak
seoul would be incin
arguably more broken than zacian
Shanghai would be Rayquaza
???
Idk what it's called
glastrier?
Lemme find it
spectrier?
It was at least
calyrex is PU
fucked up
didn't know we were talking VGC now
shock is kyogre
(whenever it was legal in vgc it was dominant)
yeah at this point
shock are gonna tie vancouver
for most wins in regular season
in a streak
Nah
their next games are toronto mayhem boston and justice
it is very doable
lmaoo
Because that would be the NYXL s1 curse all over again
They will lose one out of spite
it will be the 19th game
19 is the record
glads
They will lose to Justice for 0 reason at all
Kariv will be subbed in agaibst Mayhem and school some kids attempting Perfect win streak
it is basically guaranteed
19 is the record not 18

they will tie vancouver
That's throwable for Washington
thats the only though opponent
if they beat glads it just mid-low level teams
and they get 1st in terms of streak
shanghai record going to be beaten by s6 shock
Shock are definitely gonna go 12-0
The only team I could see them losing a series to, is glads
heesng refuses
:
Guys next time soe is in cam she'll be a mom
Noice
Also guys here me out, Mayhem get rid of Hydron Rupal (Maybe) Checkmate and sign Heesang, it is a possibility
They should sign vigi
No it isn't lol
Mayhem paying everybody besides hydron 50k
Imo
isn't the record like 19
defiant justice mayhem uprising glads nyxl fuel justice
is what they have to pull off
the only hard thing in there is glads
19 to tie, 20 to beat it
fuel if double fs stops being meta
the beat game would be outlaws
glads and fuel are significant danger games
and defiant mayhem pose a small chance of danger
while justice pose a minuscule but present chance of danger
defiant pose negative danger to any team atlanta and above
defiant pose a small chance of danger in that if we get their perfect meta and shock have an off day and defiant have an on day
it could be a shock L
so like
0.07%
justice are just rng
If Fusion used their high budget they’d not be a shitter team
Isn't heesang literally a fetus
No.
This is based ppl just won't understand the art
he is 17
Crazy how he is going to save the Toronto defiant franchise
they dont have to beat fuel jusstice
Heesu heesang Glister MuZe Void Ch0r0ng Twilight vigilante for next season
they alr have 3 wins from last year
With crusty head coach
that will not happen
It will
because heesang muze will all go to shock
Im the new Toronto GM silly
Actually im fine w that too
I go where muze goes
In a perfect reality shock rlly went all kr and snubbed muze and ch0r0ng
And garg or clestyn
shock will have muze coluge/max/clestyn heesang proper kilo bliss finn viol2t
Yeah valid
I still think clestyn is mad underrated
Also it's crazy how neither clestyn nor Toyou or garg are in OWL
Yet hotba etc are
Crazy fr
Clestyn is a top 5 off tank and people act like he’s average because he didn’t carry Belosrea Unique and Krillin to a Contenders title
Krillin is a goat
I agree
I wanna see Decay Happy Krillin and Vigi be able to do better than the justice
Shit justice coaching unfortunately
Krillin isn’t bad but he isn’t going to win a title when his competition is FiNN and Vigilante
He owns both
I agree
Yeah
Was rascals genji good or bad
in S3
I'd answer but it'd be bias
so Yeah, rewatching when philly were good v shock at their peak year
In cc he was nuts
during SS he was not that good but I saw people saying he was straight up bad at genji during 2020, but he did show a lot of improvement during cc imo
but before that it was alright but not great imo
@willow drum Thoughts on this ELITE SUPER team?
Mt:MUZE
OT:GARGOYLE
DPS:FLETA
DPS:HEESANG
HS:GLISTER
FS: GNJ
MS: FAITH
hs player?
Glister
You CAN NOT
I think most tanks are viable atm like theres not a hard meta, like some tanks are better but compositions vary so much like it doesnt matter the tank more the map and comp
So jq meta is a no
tbh with a ability like this junkerqueen will for sure be used
idk if she will be hard meta
but she will see use
literally just better lucio
I would rather use a support for speed than tank
it stacks actually
you can just run down people with commanding shout and amp speed
lmaoo fr?
yes
300mph reaper walks over u
Profit is a tracer one trick
FLETA IS INSANE
If SHD had 4 plats
And one fleta
They would still win owl
6 times in a row
THAT IS HOW GOOD FLETA IS
who hacked kng's account?
shit my joke
4 deaths
forget 4 deaths
man is on the switch
Isn’t this qp
Ye
Also four deaths in four min
Wait are you unironically bronze?
The match is only 4 and a half minutes long lol
triste do you use the ring fit controller to sprint?
I play handheld
casual
Honestly respect
Silver now
Ow 1 to shit and dead to take seriously
I wanna be in OWL on day
that'd be cool and all but if teams would rather solo tank or double flex support without a ms instead of signing Clestyn and Sanguinar there's zero chance anybody in this server is making it into OWL
Spilo
If you count him
I'm a flex player
I play flex support
I’m in
ready for NYXL
I can Play all supports except Mercy and Moira
And for tanks I can play Winston Zarya Sigma and Rein
Who is zoeys sigma
My autocorrect
This is a top tier team
Imo
Triste has good owl takes for someone who doesn't understand the game whatsoever and who is bronze on switch
I'll give him that
muze glister heesang faith gangnamjin is good
Worse than flora
took you long enough to admit it
For Dps I can play Soldier Tracer Echo Pharah Widow Hanzo Sombra Doomfist Reaper Bastion sym
You can play but can you win
Yes
I am a big 5 ED user
?
cap
I don't form opinions without a basis to prove it off
I said Boston would be worse than London
Uvalo is disturbingly stupid don’t hold yourself to a standard of barely being better than him
Earlier on Havana 1st point I got 5 head shots with Widow (Not at once) we capped 1st then I switched to Tracer and destroy led the other team and we won with like 3 minutes left in the time bank
Your Boston takes suck
They are not little 1
Or even close to it
So you’re an idiot
Sounds like luck
my Boston takes are better than that one guy who had them above Spark Defiant and Justice
Nah, I just destroyed the other supports every team fight then I would sometimes kill their Dps
As long as my team could win the 5 v 4 we won lol
3-0 vs Titans compared to 3-2
Tbf Boston brought Florida with XZI to map 5
Florida suck
Cap
The did really good against Shock
Luck
Cope
Striker was
Trolling the game
Imo
Old game reference
Compared to new game reference
Idk how he got signed again lol
Fury is good
Fury is not above average
my boston 19th take was pretty good
More like myunbong
Ye
Yaki is fine, GangNamJin was underrated and Patiphan was a risk
Myunbong never had a big name to begin with XD
yes but I am the only person that has predicted them to be worse than London
If you didn’t have London last pre season you were stupid imo
I like apac
APAC is p good
now its Philly No. 1
NA tho is 90 percent WAY OFF
Fusion doubter and Spark believer
Yes
exactly how a sane human should work
also explain new york 5
Is a moron
With only Coluge I didn't think they'd be good in most meta's
nyxl 16th was my take preseason
you failed to realize
even as high as i was on Titans, having them above Defiant and Reign is downright dumb
which is somewhat accurate
they had proper
Nobody talking about his reign placement
Yaki Flora KELLAN Gangnamjin
All mid players
Someone SirMajed CHADMATE XZI
lemme find mine
delusional
2 good players
Horrible
mine was good
average/above, bottom 7, no logical reason to believe in Checkmate being an upgrade over Yaki, and no idea as to wether Xzi would return to form
preseason I had: someone A tier, majed mid, checkmate mid, xzi above average but flop potential
Sans what’s your reasoning for outlaws above shock
Every player was equal and I rode the Piggy high as well as the Lastro main support immigration cope
So you’re braindead
imo for preseason mayhem top 3 NA is fucking inexcusable and nyxl top 5 NA is worse
?
"maybe Lastro is such a shit flex support because he has main support brain"
this is something we all know
either way they were still interchangeable
XZI has returned to form those last three maps yesterday lol
(Pre Chengdu implosion)
imagine thinking someone hydron checkmate anamo sirmajed could possibly be top 3 NA
Atlanta above Shock?????
it is fine
yes
remember
this was the era of viol2t floor lucio and coluge having to start on mt
That would be awesome
i still cant bbelieve
those are most recent
u have deifnat
above reign
anyone with a brain knows that shit org wont go anywhere
and why is dynasty there
I didn’t have a tier gap between shock and reign
Imo I didn’t miss once
move dynasty up
oh i thought they were yours
Nothing
fucking idiot
It is an ELITE TEAM
Doronto Hopium
Stop it

this is the worst list posted so far
inconsistency
put them in the middle since they had the potential to be the best and the worst at the same time
decent list
Boston believer
imo
best
Only titans
This is actually a really good pred
Imo
explain the Boston cope
