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Man nobody is good
lol
At this game
when Proper Reiner are entering the league
It’s so boring

3-0verwatch
When MN3 and ZEST are on the same team
agree
Mn3 is mid
mn3 or zest is more of roty than fixa
still has MUCH more of a claim than fixa
He looks mid because every non dps player is holding him back, that is an undeniable factual statement
Put this dps line on Fuel or Defiant and they pound
Mn3 Zest Someone Alphayi Hydron Proper Reiner vigilante UV are all ahead of Fixa lmao
Alphayi still roty
they shouldnt be losing but then they got swept by shock ad reign back to back so
I thought you said you never trolled?
Ok unironically
Every rookie except opener
London boom Fuel
True
skaripa????
The better players
Backbone Skairipa Seicoe
Skairipa clears
Arguably worse rookies
literally name every
single
He’s good rn
Seicoe got cut lmao
But in terms of rookie main supports, FiXa is easily the worst
Who’s watching this amazing xset vs faze game
wb admiral
thats bullshit titans so close
Krillin even has a better chance at roty and he's played before
Admiral is FunnyAstro in comparison to FiXa
Admiral is funnyastro
That’s true
admiral is funnyastro of estonia
I have never seen them in the same room together
Too bad neither of these teams matter
That’s true Addi
FiXa make SirMajed Lucio look like Chiyo
#sparktheworld
fixa makes chrong look like shu
Spark has the roty
Spark are good
Irony
Alphayi
Pineapple
FiXa makes Bebe look like Vigilante
FiXa makes Wonsoomin ms look like Vindaim
fixa makes violet look good on ana
Vindaim roty
Let’s not go too far
oh my bad i may have pushed the limit
Unique has a better chance of winning ROTY than FiXa
yeah
I hope xset wins this game so there is a chance maybe na can have more than one team be relevant
but ms usually dont
But Fusion fans big him up because he steals a couple of final blows from left click spam
Develop is goated
develop deadlift first point
Huffing copium as they are actively the fanbase that watches contenders the least
Develop is an underrated mastermind
fusion is called fusion for the ammount of copium and hopium they puff
I saw develop absolutely fucking roll shy
on the ruins
Yes
was a deadlift
Gonna wake up to Spark 3-1 Dragons tomorrow and it’ll be a happy day
Cuz shy
maybe
Had 0 space
it is shock
Lol
Why was getting camped
Jazzy r u watching vct
By a tracer and monkey
And superich is jerking himself on bap instead of swapping brig
Uh nah
Is xset winning
Trust me it’s not, I have had multiple Fusion fans say that Clestyn would not be an upgrade over Fury because of 2020 Spitfire
The maps have been omega close
As if he isn’t on the same academy team as 3/7 of their main teams players
And carried the shit main tank
Xset winnin?
Yes
To a finals (assuming no covid forfeit)
Nice
That is tempting
What map is next
But they’re casting “stand behind a wall and aim down sights” simulator
Ascent is starting rn
You can tell who knows nothing about val
Val is fun to watch
I was watching vct apac and vct korea earlier
Korea is actually fucking dominated by drx
Drx are insane
I can tell two minutes per team fight with 15-20 seconds of action is dull but I’ll agree to disagree and respect your opinion
Everyone else is so bad in that region
Are t1 good
T1 wasn’t in playoffs so no
They would’ve made finals if 4 players didn’t catch covid
Mako stax and buzz are top 10
Drx are insane
Ye they could’ve done way more last event
Also Brazil is a one team region
Loud?
I only watch eu and na
Apac is like a 3 team region maybe
Although prx clearly the best
It’s worth tho FPX deserve to be there
But I like suygetsu zypaan and shao so idm
Ye I like fpx too
Can fpx actually go
Loud PRX fnatic optic DRX in no particular order top 5 in the world
Yeee
This masters is gonna be so good
Fpx can make it into that imo
Maybe over PRX
Yeah I haven’t been watching u gotta start watching more
Optic fnatic and Drx are top 3
I think optic might win again cuz in the few na matches I watched fns could actually aim
You should watch apac it’s gonna be team secret vs xerxia to see who makes it to masters
He used to piss me off with his aim
Secret are so old I went on their liquidpedia and they’re all like 26
DRX win this time no cap
Ihope so
Yeah they have crazy aim but they’re all fuxking boomers
Isn’t dubstep an esports boomer
Yes
Dubstep is like the oldest pro val player
It used to be hiko
They still have crws
this is their team
Whatt
I thought he fuxking retired lmaooo
NIP basically gets a free path to masters
Cuz chet also said
He was thinking of retiring due to money problems
NIP are not that good from what I saw
Yeah they aren’t
But ik they replaced bnj so maybe
Loud rolls NIP
But they get 2nd in brazil
So they get into LCQ
That would’ve been unreal
I watched one latam game
LATAM is going on rn
It was the final and it was pretty close I think
I watched a bit
Faze choked mad times they were up 10-2
2 maps and almost lost both
They got rolled on haven tho so they def need to win this 1
Xset beat optic on haven
Wait faze are gonna lose
Na is basically a 1 team region
my setup
this is for masters spot yes
Xset win this fosho
valorant mf back 😴
ascent
makes sense rthne
i like fade chamber on ascent
77-35 .688 289-156 +133
i think this is the perfect ascent comp
that is shock rn
why do they have a dps duo of an american player and chinese player
also
k1ng isn't good
thats LATAM
watching seoul shanghai back
shanghai individual seems to clear seoul but seoul plays like a team so seoul wins overall
Thanks for the update
the only individual play on shanghai thats not clearing seoul is bebe and fleta tracer v stalker tracer
seoul just seem to actually know what to do past just kills
Fleta looks like he hast practice
Creative ain't clearing anyone individually
He starting to miss pulse bombs a lot
i think fleta should only touch tracer and hanzo
yeah, i think most of the time as an individual you can say the player on shanghai looks better on the hero compared to their seoul counterpart but then when you actually watch the game seoul just look like they think about the game on more than just a fight by fight basis
also seoul has really good coord
Fleta was rlly good
Ye that what makes Seoul very good
That pretty much what made dragons very good last year was there teamwork
i just think ljg should be in all the time
they were also mechanically dominant
Ya I think fleta just just practice tracer
Seems like tracer might be meta a lot
i think if moon actually wanted a second flex player he should have gone harder earlier in the off season
but thats just hindsight harry
and now i am watching r66 where they play ana zen into winston tracer
gg
fleta is falling off
this is the truth
next season he won't even be top 3 OWL korean flex dps
much less top 5 fdps player
i say that it is gg but i just watch void and lip have their way with seoul
They had internet issues before it possible fleta wast able to practice a lot
he is still going to fall off
obviously
next season
everyone falls off as they age
Ist that what people said about profit?
profit is not S tier imo
i dont think he is the best tracer but i think give it time he will re surge this stage
That profit was wash lol
yeah
he doesnt need to be THE best
lip
imo
Fleta wasn't never the best tracer tho
proper
that is true
s3 striker was best
s4 lip/kevin/leave
?
note how shanghai wins when fleta isnt the best tracer it really doesnt matter
Last season it was leave or kev
Lip barely played tracer
When he occasionally played it though
lip did not have enough time to seriously consider him
thats like saying chipsa best doom or something bc his stats were really good for the like 20min of play time he had
he was though
or for you stats nerds, trying to draw a conclusion without having ample sample size
shanghai attack r66 done, brig ana is better than ana zen in a dive mirror
not much more to say
There isn’t an ample sample size of good takes from you either
funny you talk
@tropic herald post your tier list
of just overall standings?
Well that
Nah…
But post your preseason rankings as well
idek if i have my preseason anymore
nah its fine just
not like this matters
sans just wants to win at something
separate regions
I am more reliable than 90% of ED that isn’t Mike or Levy (when talking about a team that isn’t Seoul or Valiant)
(runner up feels bad tbh)
you also hate faith
Not anymore
You’re right
okay that is good
He is bottom 5
I made Oatmeal drink and mixed the oatmeal so fucking well that it turned into liquid
Bottom 3 when Daan Rio and Marve1 (off doom) exist would be a step too far
gator
I have some of the best takes in this channel
Hold yourself to better standards
jazzy is a goat of owl takes
Gator might be -1 roster slot but Belosrea is -2
Here's a drink, 3 spoonfuls of oatmeal, sugar (however much you want) vanilla extract, some ice and water
?
When talking about a player that isn’t Belosrea Victoria or Flora I agree
put that shit in a blender with fucking cinnamon and blend it for a bit
not at max for like 500000 minutes
like I did
jazzy is mn3 the best hitscan/dps on his team
Flora is a good
Player
Smart people agree
And had him highly ranked
Before 2022
No
He’s the worst dps so far
Flora is a solid 14th-15th place hitscan in OWL
???
He isn’t
flora is above Ans
He’s gone crazy
easily
He is in my big 13
okay who is flora
??????????
better than sans
are you crazy
shut up ans is washed
Flora is a lot better than ans
no i am not crazy
Ans is horrible
flora diffs ans
coco
like nobody's business
absolutely insane lmao
flora is 13th, I agree
shut up dullahan
your brain is scrambled
Dullahan this world would be better without you
?????
???
WATCH TEH GAMES
i kinda hate this bc some teams have played barely any matches so the second tier of apac is loose and the third and fourth of na are also pretty loose, hard to really have confidence in this tier list because some teams just have not played many games
DUMBO
MOTH IS BETTER
???
your mother doesn't love you
i love jazzy though
Nobody loves you
so it makes up for it
REPLACE THE OATMEAL IN YOUR DRINK WITH CRUSHED CHERRY PITS FOR BETTER RESULTS
LEGIT EVERYTIME HE PLAYED ON GLADS
SHD below CDH?
He was horrible
he was washed
I HOPE YOU SWALLOW CRUSHED APPLE SEEDS
YOU BRAINLESS FUCK
He’s top 2
IS EVEN BETTER
Dullahan please watch contenders
YOU ARE SO DUMB WATCH CONTENDORS
that tier is very loose, you could make good arguments for any order in that tier bc hangzhou and shanghai have played 1 match each
agreed agreed
I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT CONTENDERS VINDAIM IS MUCH BETTER
@lost thicket Who is the best player in Korea Contendors right now
I HOPE YOU ARE THE ONLY CASUALTY IN A MASS SHOOTING YOU ATTEMPT TO COMMIT
IN OVERWATCH
Last season it was just brig and glads had the number one brig
answer my question
Heesang
dullahan
I HOPE YOU GET CIA'D
I don't think moth was needed on glads imo
teru and it’s not particularly close
blocked.
Moth was horrible in s4
he most defo was
WRONG
in case a mickey mouse
Nah
yes
They had space
His Lucio was unimpressive in rush
you don't know the playoffs patch
Victoria Ezhan Guriyo (currently) Edison (off reaper) sHockWave Aspire Hydron SparkR Dove Ans Develop
moth on glads made sense but also it just worked out that he was uneccesary based off what the team was good at and what the meta was
Moth was known to be a very good shot caller or something
ok agree
I believe
Apparently space played that role
that glads team just did not really understand any comps involving lucio
EVERYTHING AFTER EDISON IS WRONG
Easily
SHUT UP
And many people agreed
flora shits on develop
EXCEPT DOVE
AND DEVELOP YEAH
How does ans get gapped
I AGREE WITH THAT
Develop and Hydron were reluctant but I didn’t want to shit on Flora unnecessarily
EVEN STILL DOVE GAPPED HIM
(because you are shit)
And still manages to be overrated
(ans is bad)
I’m a reasonable individual
Hydron is better
Dove wasn’t even against flora
Lol
It was tracer mirror vs Yaki
Are you unironically mentally deficient
Cuz I feel like I’m being mean
this is one of the takes of all time imo
okay dullahan post your top 5 players of each and every role
for all of you
and if it gets above 6/10
Also reminder Flora only looked ok in a region with Krystal and Eileen hs last szn
I will not insult you
all time or now
is it really that hard to not wish death on people
now
Flora was insane
ok ok ok ok ok ok
In that region
if i had all time u would have fit
give me a second
Viol2t is not above Alarm of all time
Super should not be over Smurf or Fearless
and super is above fearless and smurf besides S5
lmao
Dullahan you are little 3 ED user
I disagree with all of you
what does that make you?
y'all are insane
ok
“Everybody is an imbecile except for me”
HOW IS MOTH NOT BETTER
True
HIS BRIG WAS ALRIGHT NOT BETTER THEN SKEWED THOUGH HIS MERCY WAS GREAT AND HIS LUCIO WAS GREAT
HIS LUCIO AND MERCY WERE ARGUABLY THE BEST
is great
LIKE EVER
HIS BRIG ISN'T EVEN BAD
His Lucio was good wast too tier imo moth I mean
FunnyAstro lucio equalised in 2020 and surpassed in 2021
IT'S JUST THAT EVERY TEAM HE WAS ON HAD A BETTER BRIG PLAYER
like a FS.
My man is stuck in goats era 2019 where Super could play one of the two heroes he was above average on
ok
in viol2t.
gonna ignore chat
okay this super slander
and do the list
is undeserved
ljg clears moth
super is the best reinhardt
Sorry, 3 heroes, forgor hog
of all time
But considering there has only been like 2 good hog players when it was hard meta idk how much weight that holds
Yes Stand1 really held his own, that’s why Shanghai didn’t make finals
Are you talking about the grand finals?
super being good at hog has to have some merit to being considered top 5 tank of all time since its part of the reason they won finals
did i say super was the best hog ever? no but i guarantee that will be put into my mouth at somepoint
super
is the best hog ever
he gapped gesture imo
even while playing with zen instead of ana
Not when his winston and ball are B- tier at best
what tank in the top 5 of all time is actually A+ on every single tank
Fearless
Smurf
Fate off rein (one bad hero holds significantly less weight than two)
.
Oh top 5 of course
good good
I thought this was an argument for him being the best of all time
no
nobody argued that
which i still think he has an arguement for and if you dont think he is at least considered you have revised what your thoughts are
no one
no one is A+ on dva zarya orisa winston sig rein ball hog
like look at tank players, super is def one of the most impactful tanks of all time
belosrea
Stop trolling
although i think arguing best tank of all time at this point is pointless since the role was only just merged
do you want me to be honest?
T1 wouldn't have gotten top 3
if not for unique and krillin
mn3 and zest were gapped by both talon and o2 dps
unique and krillin
held their own
unique is aplayer of all time
That is very true @willow drum
Unique and Krillin were not anchors in a region with ChiYo Vindaim FiNN and CH0R0NG Vigilante support lines opposing them
they were not anchors
they were DA BEST
the KINGS
👑
along with BeloGOATrea
(diffed kellan and junbin)
once again this is /s
Greatest Contenders support line since Alarm Carcar
so true
I remember
When my biggest fear going into OWL 2022
Was that Fusion picked up the entirety of T1
MT: Smurf, Reiner, SOMEONE, Fearless, Fate (none of this in order FYI)
OT: Coluge, Hanbin, Hawk, Void, I guess fucking SPACE or Fury, fuck maybe even punk or bernar
FDPS: Profits, Proper, Decay, Kevster, Pelican (this role is stacked and I am just thinking ones I feel are still having pop off moments now)
HIT: LIP, Kai, MN3, FITS, Happy,
FS: FiNN, Shu, Fielder, Mmonk, Ir1s,
MS: Vindaim, Chiyo, FunnyAstro, CH0R0NG, LeeJaeGon
I guess
A team that didn’t win any finals match
Promote t1 probably
? Leave modcheck
And went with that roster alongside Carpe Alarm
like I said FDPS is stacked
Thinking into the past
no vigilante?
I feel even JinMu outperformed this last win
and you put decay?
iris > twilight?
he isnt even a fdps
have we even see Vigilante
LJG over Faith?
Carpe MN3 ZEST rotation in a off tank double fs meta would be stacked with Clestyn Alarm Krillin
he is just as good as finn
In comparison to the shitshow we have today
lmao
more apparent in their wins and fights imo
Or even Alarm Unique support line
we have not seen him in OWL
Little disjointed but Unique can be carried
I am judging off OWL
Decay a hitscan that also plays genji and tracer hyperflex hs?
every single o2 player
By MN3 ZEST Clestyn Alarm
decay is a fdps atp
is extremely talented
F4ZE
the grand finals between talon vs o2
I just consider him a Decay since he pretty much is known for the tracer
YaHo
kevster is known for tracer
must be a HS
@willow drum ok is this list bad or good
He did in the first tournament
it is fine
7/10
there are problems
but there are standard picks
and mmonk is p based
mmonk is a horrible pick for top 5
mmonk has been good
he's been great and never a weak point imo, a silent carry if you will
i think the leave guy on hunters is putting in some work, hes up and coming but hes good
I fuck with him
it is fine if you dont count underage
like vigilante
imho
ZEST over Decay and anyone over Fury, certainly not fucking Punk in top 5 but other than that good list
I was gonna put in zest
Vig is better ye
agreed
then to decay
i am so upset that vig is on washington
Idk the mental gymnastics you need to take to argue that Punk is better than Piggy Kalios or Hotba
how hot of a take is this that i am about to say
Iris better
Fuck no
I think everyone I listed is better
vig > finn
That is a common fact
Ir1s is close though
Not agreed with by anyone smart
you can argue that
Kalios sucked ass last match
it is a warm take
I have a hate boner for HOTBA
i personally believe finn > vig
Real
Hotba a bitch
and Piggy uh, I don't know if he is top 5
rare dullahan W
he deserves to be on nyxl
then again
Volcanic take for a Shock fan to hear, it’s a fine take for anyone with a brain though
"shitba"
Punk isn't top 5 either
?? it is a warm take
but I had to fill out the spot
HOTBA is not as good as I initially hopiumed myself up for on Fusion
But he’s not bottom 5
Fury clears botba
maybe we will see when he is of age
Fury is a fraud tho
W
Mag was ROTY pre season
and look where they are now
it is so sad how much Happy has to do
for Washington
2 bad your hateful narrative towards MN3 is spreading misinformation rapidly
But a real one currently
Nah I love mn3
He jus underperforming sadly
He is better than hotba and kalios
Like any other player
jazzy do you want to hear
the most disrespectful take
Uvalo has had
on Hitscan players in OWL
Lip and Fits couldn’t carry the open division shit on Fusion
Let alone a young rookie
No
Unrealistic take
Uvalo is an idiot
Shock has Mayhem and Justice as their only hard matches
unfortunate
???
they dont play justice
L
Fits carried gesture and annoying
Anamo
He is
MN3 has to take that shit on his back every time he enters the battlefield
they do
no hello
last Mayhem, Titans, Defiant, Justice
Mayhem is not a hard match imo
That’s disrespectful to Heesang and Clestyn
justice is not this stage
(GOATS)
next stage
And Fuel win a title
so Mayhem and Defiant
titans will get 3-0'd
By who
sf cock
if aspire pops sure
Saying Fusion underperforming is the dps fault is actively ignoring the real problems on the team
so sad that the meta that's best for titans is when they have the hardest matches
Tomorrow Mayhem will remember how to play the game
but if shock can counter the best sj

then little hope for cockwave
if shock troll enough
👍
Mayhem should have not been 3-0ed
Trying to replace the dps with Profits or Proper Kilo instead of taking below average tank and support (at best) and replacing them with players at the same calibre as the dps would be the acts of a madman
Aspire diff Sparky
Aspire is a very talanted player
^
They are not little 2
8th NA here they come
what is my worst take
Fuel
?
Are horrible
So they can make 10th
All of them
They rolled mayhem
rich coming from you
Who is a solid middling team
Calm down, my nan checks my phone
wrong
Who is also smart
She doesn’t need to see this slander
Ask anyone
Why
mayhem imo
When Guriyo
are shit
Is playing good
She likes my wall paper
They are a good team
Crusty can't help but put Moira in his comps
But he wasn’t
Maybe
has moira
ok but it's smart though
They beat TD
as his waifu
And barely lost to london
unironically
Mayhem is a mid team
crusty has a crush on the nails
souj needs to be hitting the most shocks and shields
lucio moira tracer sombra ball
@cunning patrol who do you have
Coping
winning midszn
How tho
Finn built one coal the whole round and it instantly got cancelled but the ball's so good it didn't even matter
Idk
basically have journ not land the fucking shots
If you are using
needed to charge and rail
Transitive property
Titans also played ATL close
crusty is a smart coach
They would be if they weren’t playing against the top 5 in NA this tourney
I think it’s sub 40
This stage
Titans are the best winless team
out of ANYONE
In histoey
in the league
Imo
at 350
I think titans are a solid
Also Dpei
Top 8 in NA
So much better than flubby
Rn
Titans are the best winless team so far*
Shut up
Wait until August 14th
That doesn’t even make sense
Justice have Vigilante by then
I also like how shock can go from playing like dogshit to playing like best in region in the same map
Not winnable imo
why yall making it seem
vigilante will be good
sup7eme is his mf coach
he will turn into low A tier player
Baz I trust you with my life
Ur dying
I am going to alter my pickems based on your analysis
I'm still surprised supreme is still the coach lol
#trusttheprocess
Been robbing that org for a year and a half
He’s a genius
not for overwatch though
fucking use decay on the zarya
and making players bad
Not as impressive as Avalla stealing what remains of Eternals wages for the past 3 years
zarya not meta currently
you monkey
.
also decay zarya isnt fixing their problems
that is genius