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#esports-discussion
static pond
cunning patrol
They would either own Shanghai or lose to like chengdu
static pond
They were in one region during season weren't they?
cunning patrol
They were in one region during season weren't they?
After may melee
fathom igloo
They were in one region during season weren't they?
S3 was supposed to be homestands
cunning patrol
They were pretty horrible
fathom igloo
Where you the justice put in ttuba over stratus
static pond
S3 was supposed to be homestands
Ohhhh right that when they started giving away the homesteads code through giveaways
fathom igloo
Ohhhh right that when they started giving away the homesteads code through givea...
Yeah
I somehow got a complete set of them
static pond
Justice had so many codes
Lmao they gave like 4 or 3 every time they played
Sometimes even 6 if the matches went to 5
humble yarrow
Marv1l was a good pick up for valiant
errant hornet
apac
is fucking impossible
to pred
lol
Fusion 3-0 Shanghai twice who almost beat Dynasty, Fusion than get 3-0
and now they lose to Valiant
idk
wtf
this region
is
mortal cipher
reverse sweep at that
apac is the region we know absolutely nothing
i think its a better bet to pred against philly
frosty patrol
why were you guys surprised about philly losing in the first place?
we knew they had a terrible roster
errant hornet
well the fusion roster either pops off and zest fucks
or
they lose to valiant
also marvel looked good
thank god his adition to the roster is completely normal and isn't docking the pay of his team : )
mortal cipher
thats why coldest was released so that wouldnt be the case
but marve1 eddition rlly helped the valiant they look much better than they already did
north relic
LETS GO NYXL
mortal cipher
lol
plush grail
@hot onyx who wins, fusion or this roster
mortal cipher
the roster ez
static pond
Lmao the roster
frosty patrol
<@398500839469219850> who wins, fusion or this roster
smurf >>>> belosrea
lip >> mn3/carpe
profit = zest
vindaim >>> fixa
aimgod = aimgod
mortal cipher
also they have a less likihood of choking
plush grail
smurf >>>> belosrea
lip >> mn3/carpe
profit = zest
vindaim >>> fixa
aimgod = aim...
aimgod >>> aimgod
mortal cipher
aimgod on a non chocking team > philly
plush grail
is sparkle still the main tracer player for dallas??
mortal cipher
i believe so
mortal cipher
yeah
plush grail
holy fuck these stats
hot onyx
<@398500839469219850> who wins, fusion or this roster
what the fuck
that roster probably
mt and ms gap
hot onyx
smurf >>>> belosrea
lip >> mn3/carpe
profit = zest
vindaim >>> fixa
aimgod = aim...
there isn't two ">" over Lip with MN3 and Carpe
just one
plush grail
unkoe is lft ???
static pond
London vs nyxl who y'all have?
north relic
isnt this bqb
balmy wolf
bqb is prettier
plush grail
ah yeh valorant sadly
north relic
orisa
candid radish
plush grail
the anti rein hero
north relic
next map is ours
plush grail
tbh i respect it
i fucking hate when teams try to mirror the rein
u are not beating hadi in a mirror
plush grail
The anti rein
yes
cedar oasis
london 3-0 nyxl
plush grail
god orisa is so bad, it's just a ult sponge at this ooint
candid radish
Isn’t this orisas first game time
errant hornet
no
plush grail
not first
errant hornet
she was played once before
candid radish
Other than 00.2 seconds
errant hornet
but its kinda just bad
static pond
Justice played her
plush grail
mag played her on fight on a koth map
plush grail
but shes soooo easy to counter
she counters herself man
errant hornet
MTD
candid radish
I am delayed
errant hornet
she counters herself man
esp into rein her ult is hard to get value with
they just shield it off
idk the horse just seems to be doing so little
like
idk
like you need to use e to escape but then you have 0 engage
so you are kinda just a worse bastion lol
full lichen
Gesture was supposed to make KELLAN better
full lichen
#SpitfireSweep
full lichen
flora so shit
I can't defend him actually
plush grail
how is kellan in owl
cedar oasis
i think fissure is lft
cunning patrol
Flora is carrying
full lichen
how is kellan in owl
At the beginning of this year everyone thought KELLAN would be better than Someone
candid radish
This game has gone well
plush grail
@north relic damn
north relic
<@452631000674205696> damn
next map
static pond
Kellen was like probably the most hyped tank out of contenders behind mag and one other
plush grail
sans u hate pokemon generation 7 right
candid radish
‘Half the ship burnt down’
candid radish
Bit more than that
shut bobcat
Korean stream casting>
plush grail
to make me kms
new caster try not to make shitty puns every 3 seconds challenge
hot onyx
sans u hate pokemon generation 7 right
I hate all gens but ORAS and SM with a passion
errant hornet
new caster try not to make shitty puns every 3 seconds challenge
I miss custa
static pond
Wait doesn't Kellen have a good rein and yuki has a good Mei?
plush grail
I hate all gens but ORAS and SM with a passion
north relic
how did nyxl get worse
building phase
plush grail
they ran horse and ball lmao
north relic
wait until ho1 comes
hot onyx
Please emulate
errant hornet
they ran horse and ball lmao
I mean ball has gotten SOME value
horse tho
idk about that one...
lol
candid radish
Why does landons camera not work
candid radish
Also was it landon or admiral that was the last minute replacement for the other one
ebon aurora
landon
balmy wolf
nyxl does a little experimenting
tidal marsh
landon's the flex
plush grail
Also was it landon or admiral that was the last minute replacement for the other...
landon
plush grail
@north relic cope
ebon aurora
nyxl suck at push
take out the latter half of that sentence and it's still true
tidal marsh
nyxl suck at push
ever upward more like ever downward
plush grail
ever upward more like
balmy wolf
and has only been getting worse since
candid radish
They’re might have been a brief moment in s2 when they were still good
ebon aurora
I still can't explain why they picked up a 3rd flex support when they clearly need another tank or a main support much more urgently
even a 3rd DPS would be a better pickup
tidal marsh
I still can't explain why they picked up a 3rd flex support when they clearly ne...
its gonna be a DEFO 2 flex meta GUARANTEED
hahhahaaha
static pond
I still can't explain why they picked up a 3rd flex support when they clearly ne...
Apparently they think there ana the problem
According to halo
candid radish
Poko time
tidal marsh
AYO is that my man poko
tidal marsh
i hope we get more ow1 maps ow2erfied in the beta
static pond
ana isn't even really meta rn though
To be more accurate myunbong they think is the problem
tidal marsh
so that the OWL map pool changes
ebon aurora
Myunbong hasn't been as bad as GNJ Lucio
static pond
Ya idk what going on
tidal marsh
sheeeesh
candid radish
Soljurn is busted I swear man
full lichen
New York's Dps isn't their problem
errant hornet
Shax's hair LMAO
candid radish
Had to make it had for ourselves
cloud latch
hello any shock fans out here?
north relic
hello any shock fans out here?
hi there 
static pond
How tf London get Microsoft as a partner
north relic
LETS GO NYXL
bronze rampart
bro fucking tracerman 💀
balmy wolf
lol did u guys see the carpe sojourn stats
candid radish
Poko is missing too many flux's
tidal marsh
How tf London get Microsoft as a partner
cause legends
tidal marsh
Poko is missing too many flux's
so true
plush grail
microsoft is a cloud9 sponsor im p sure
humble yarrow
balmy wolf
how they look @balmy wolf
lofty shale
rip ny almost got a map
ebon aurora
that was a great map
candid radish
Stfu we did it
lofty shale
yea that map was mega close
tidal marsh
still cannot believe Val beat fusion
bronze rampart
they where doing to well too
ebon aurora
in fairness, that stat is for NQS
bronze rampart
london just had a burtst of energy
ebon aurora
where Fusion got destroyed
hard for Carpe to do much when his team was just getting rolled over
balmy wolf
yeah but not a single final blow?
in an entire game?
were they getting fucked that hard
balmy wolf
💀
static pond
They had 4mins left of push lol
balmy wolf
I don’t think it’s the whole game
humble yarrow
At the end they where getting destroyed
balmy wolf
It’s just 1 map
static pond
Val
ebon aurora
yeah Valiant capped with about 4 minutes left
balmy wolf
goofy ah team
static pond
It was gonna be 5 mins lmao
ebon aurora
Lucio Zen in 2022?
humble yarrow
Basically
ebon aurora
I can't work out if that comp is NoHill genius
or Fusion just being tragic against it
like there is no way that comp makes any sense
lost thicket
who has already played
ebon aurora
that felt like NY's best chance of a map win
tidal marsh
using THIS comp: Lucio, Zen, Zarya, Sombra, Soujorn
what a comp
lost thicket
I just got back from being a gym rat for 2 hours god I am starving
is this the first match?
sullen berry
3-0 is possible for mine
ebon aurora
yep
lost thicket
kk
vagrant jacinth
Era of London
full lichen
I went 3-1 Spitfire
Me too
frosty patrol
like there is no way that comp makes any sense
it does
tbh
lucio zen just wants to int and kill something
sombra just wants to int and kill something
zarya wants to int and kill something
sojourn can int and kill something
it's the go in focus fire a target immediately instant frontal assault comp
nohill genius
vagrant jacinth
I went 3-0 london
tropic herald
trim shadow
Hadi is just european bumper
Moments of brilliance
But most time u cant read his mind
Its a enigma
candid radish
Get the video
cedar oasis
c9
balmy wolf
i said 3-1 so ill takei t
trim shadow
L 0 -3 S T
candid radish
Get the video people
brave zenith
SPITFIRE SWEEP
well it's vs nyxl
balmy wolf
EZ
wicked pendant
True, true
trim shadow
Bruh london is gonna show up to mid season madness and commit murder
humble yarrow
Nyxl rly only has Kellan and flora
humble yarrow
But yaki didn't do much that game
trim shadow
New york makes me depressed
candid radish
trim shadow
This is like s2 new york but smaller roster and instead of winning every game but loosing when it matters they are just fuckin loosing every game
idle ore
how do you check what teams a player has been on on the OWL website
humble yarrow
Landon isn't bad tho
vagrant jacinth
https://twitter.com/Spitfire/status/1540429761712779264?s=20&t=02fEqQ7ma4B3ShYVS...
Never gets old
twin bloom
Landon isn't bad tho
I agree
trim shadow
how do you check what teams a player has been on on the OWL website
Liquidpedia ow site doesnt show that
twin bloom
He is mid
balmy wolf
how do you check what teams a player has been on on the OWL website
you can check liquepida
vagrant jacinth
idle ore
thanks
humble yarrow
Yea Landon isn't good either
balmy wolf
1st place is tied for 16
twin bloom
But he is better
balmy wolf
and chadi has 10
vagrant jacinth
He was like last lmao
twin bloom
Than a few
candid radish
Y’all coping
vagrant jacinth
And seething
candid radish
So hard
plush grail
who does nyxl even hope to beat at this point, paris and london beat them already and i'm pretty certain titans with dpei can manage
frosty patrol
This is like s2 new york but smaller roster and instead of winning every game bu...
what the hell is this comparison
tropic herald
frosty patrol
actually so braindead
vagrant jacinth
Nyxl are doomed
frosty patrol
s2 nyxl are nothing similar to s5 nyxl
trim shadow
Calling me braindead when the whole point is
next mesa
still cannot believe Val beat fusion
why
trim shadow
Both squads were extremely talented
balmy wolf
s2 nyxl are nothing similar to s5 nyxl
thats like
next mesa
valiant clearly better team
trim shadow
Both flopped
MEGA hard
S5 new york isnt even swimming
From time to time they emerge but they are like a bloody mermaid
They just dont exist from time to time
balmy wolf
i think owl should have relegation
balmy wolf
if you place last in owl your whole roster is dropped and replaced by a contenders team at the start of off season
trim shadow
T h a t i s t h e p o i n t
S2 was suppose to be there season they were suppose to win owl but they didnt even get close to grand finals
frosty patrol
Rusha: both flopped mega hard
me: s2 nyxl didn't flop mega hard
Rusha: that's the point
cedar oasis
S2 was suppose to be there season they were suppose to win owl but they didnt ev...
they were in the semi finals
1 game away
frosty patrol
s2 nyxl were in the losers finals AND winners finals
won their conference
were a top 2 seed in playoffs, 3rd in standings
cedar oasis
if they beat titans it would be nyxl vs shock grand finals
trim shadow
That was runaway and and a unbeatable shock
frosty patrol
it wasn't even a flop
they performed well above how you might expect in a meta where you have anamo lucio jjonak moira and fucking mano sigma
cedar oasis
when did mano play sig?
frosty patrol
might be misremembering
cedar oasis
it was meko sig
frosty patrol
but like 5 teams played their ot on orisa and their mt on sig
cedar oasis
meko was a top 5 sig
frosty patrol
forgot whether it was nyxl
cedar oasis
no
trim shadow
It was still there year 
outside of yes vancouver runaway and shock they were consistent all year in the goats
frosty patrol
but yeah I remember it was them
cedar oasis
mano was orisa
frosty patrol
london went with the absolutely fire gesture sigma
glads ran the fucking hydration sigma 50% of the time
twin bloom
meko was a top 5 sig
Lol
trim shadow
Uk what throw copium my way lets not even count s2
Give me the copium cause all u needed in s2 was ult management
twin bloom
london went with the absolutely fire gesture sigma
Hydration sigma
trim shadow
No skill
twin bloom
Was generational
frosty patrol
It was still there year <:kekw:873355393642946621> outside of yes vancouver run...
how is it their year if they're the 3rd best team
twin bloom
But they shoulda just played him on doom
frosty patrol
But they shoulda just played him on doom
instead of decay
gator hydration gesture all played the sig
trim shadow
Evidence
frosty patrol
surefour was a goat on the reaper in s2
trim shadow
Why was atlantic so bad that year 
i needa go down memory lane
Chengdu was 8th in s2
Oo s4
Depends they were very meta dependent in s4
And leave was basically
Dead lifting season long
willow drum
if they beat titans it would be nyxl vs shock grand finals
shock would have still won honestly
cedar oasis
probably
willow drum
but at least nyxl gets 2nd
trim shadow
I mean yea shock was gonna win do u see that lower bracket run
twin bloom
No one was.gonna beat shock in that meta
twin bloom
They had a dps player who nonstopped one tricked doom
trim shadow
That started the trend of shock always loosing to atlanta in playoffs
twin bloom
That started the trend of shock always loosing to atlanta in playoffs
It was a fluke
Sadly
balmy wolf
I mean it seems to be turning out well for them
They did get 2nd last season and they just beat shock
At kickoff clash
frosty patrol
they almost lost to the goat sharp in s3 playoffs
full lichen
OH YEAH BABY
frosty patrol
3-0verwatch time
cunning patrol
For mayhem
full lichen
dallas gonna break the map loss streak record
2021 Valiant Exist
candid radish
Is fuel gonna make it the mideasons maddness
full lichen
Is fuel gonna make it the mideasons maddness
Replaced by London
lofty shale
if they keep getting 3-0'd then no
cloud latch
hows dalls doing
lofty shale
but their points from the first tournament carry over so they have some leeway
frosty patrol
2021 Valiant Exist
yes
lofty shale
dallas is shit so far this tournament
cedar oasis
dallas good
lofty shale
but they shouldn't be bad
candid radish
I'd be honest I thought the london was replacing the Toronto or Washington not the fuel
lofty shale
dallas good
not this tournament so far though, they literally haven't gotten a map
lofty shale
probably
full lichen
These some Kickoff clash comps
full lichen
Guriyo good now?
full lichen
Nvm
lofty shale
yea guriyo was never terrible just not as good as some other dps in the league
full lichen
?????
lofty shale
yea
errant hornet
and he gets diffed by the really good players like kai
lofty shale
a lot of dallas fans think he's the fucking answer for some reason
candid radish
Did no one else’s stream just break
lofty shale
NA production!!! XDDDDDD Am i right???
cedar oasis
guriyo diff
lofty shale
fucking youtube chat
idle ore
lol
candid radish
Thought my bf1 broke my stream for a moment
lofty shale
watching youtube on xbox is a little fucky so i just assumed that's why mine broke
idle ore
for some reason my pc stream is like 3 seconds off from when i watch on the OWL website or on my phone
but it says its LIVE and i get my tokens, so, whatever
full lichen
Winnable?
ebon aurora
that was more like the Fuel we expect to see
balmy wolf
Good fight by Dallas at the end
full lichen
At least Mayhem Put up a fight
lofty shale
i feel like fuel have a tendency to just randomly fold sometimes, like even last year
like when they folded against atlanta in hawaii
cloud latch
LETS GOOOO GURIYO WASNT USELESS FOR ONCE
cedar oasis
guriyo good
ebon aurora
Guriyo hasn't been that bad
there's no shame losing to people like Kai/Kilo/Ans in hitscan duels
idle lagoon
sips gladiator juice box Kevster go brrrrr
cedar oasis
but guriyo won the duels
idle lagoon
i am glad fan so sue me
cunning patrol
Guriyo is a horrible player
ebon aurora
you have to start somewhere if you're apparently low on confidence
idle lagoon
but i lost my mcchicken :o
cedar oasis
dallas has found the comp they want to play
cloud latch
GOOD STICK
sorry its not proper only proper gets praised for pulsing a stationary target
full lichen
Hydron isn't a slouch
cedar oasis
c9
supple prism
the hell did Fusion do?
full lichen
They got vibe checked by the Valiant
supple prism
why are they permanently in the middle
cedar oasis
fusion have the worst mt in owl
supple prism
tank has always seem to be Phillys weakest point
cedar oasis
they also have a bottom 5 support line in owl
mint saddle
how long till reign is playing?
willow drum
rio
willow drum
whats score?
plush grail
@cedar oasis this is sans irl
willow drum
uvalo
brave zenith
chiyo?
supple prism
well Philly did have an unfortunate loss in the off season
cedar oasis
1-0 dallas
cedar oasis
2-0 now
ebon aurora
Fearless' ball looked great there
cedar oasis
guriyo diffing hydron
willow drum
@cunning patrol is guriyo diffing hydron
ebon aurora
yes
willow drum
or is uvalo j lying
ebon aurora
apart from that 3k Hydron got
willow drum
you are a dallas fan rinqed
cloud latch
I wouldnt say hes diffing hhydron but hes doing better thwn him atm
cloud latch
also just a team gap rn
next mesa
secured
ebon aurora
Reiner for me
next mesa
unless he wins mvp
ebon aurora
Reiner's flexibility is insane
next mesa
overrated
ebon aurora
yeah Glads are overrated when they just rolled Kickoff Clash
here's a really bold take in the ROTY convo
because he makes London's Rush work so well - Backbone
his Mei is cracked
willow drum
who do you have as winning it
? i dont, triste has hydron 2nd
runner up is reiner
proper wins roty
too much hype for him not 2
earnest leaf
finn is making a strong case for roty imo
willow drum
realistically
ebon aurora
I mean based on hype he probably will win
brave zenith
if it's not proper it's finn
ebon aurora
but I don't think he's been the best rookie
brave zenith
but it should be proper
next mesa
but I don't think he's been the best rookie
he has been the best rookie
easily
also
i didnt say
glads
is overrated
idiot
i said reiner's flexibility
ebon aurora
How is his flexibility overrated
he can play Doom, Rein, Winston, Ball, Sigma
I don't remember if he played Zarya
brave zenith
earnest leaf
tbf his sig wasn't that special
ebon aurora
Reiner is a big reason why Glads are doing well
next mesa
kevster and shu
earnest leaf
a top 2 backline and an mvp candidate in kevster are also doing some heavy lifting
next mesa
carries that poverty franchise
ebon aurora
sure but without a tank as good as Reiner, they wouldn't have the same space to work
north relic
like ChiYo should also be in the discussion
Chiyo isn’t even the best rookie ms
north relic
Chorong
ebon aurora
wrong
ebon aurora
Vindaim has a legit claim
willow drum
??
ebon aurora
but ChiYo frags like nothing
ebon aurora
Why are Defiant underperforming then
next mesa
its chorong
willow drum
and mobymid
balmy wolf
LMAO
next mesa
and then vindaim
ebon aurora
pre-season I agree Chorong was better
next mesa
and then chiyo
balmy wolf
how they not kill fielder
ebon aurora
but this season ChiYo and Vindaim have been way better
willow drum
so true
balmy wolf
florida midhem
cloud latch
guys happy is worse than pati cause pati is in a better team
full lichen
I live in central Florida and I can feel a heartbeat
ebon aurora
I'd be curious to compare the stats
ebon aurora
I did say that was a very hot take
last nimbus
Howdy hey
ebon aurora
you can't deny he's had a really big impact on Spitfire though
last nimbus
How have the matches gone this evening
ebon aurora
Spitfire 3-0 against NY
Fuel currently 2-0 against Mayhem
but Mayhem just full capped KR
so maybe a comeback
last nimbus
Spitfire 3-0 against NY
I mean... not dissapointed, they've been looking well this stage so far
balmy wolf
sadly fearless will gap on rein
last nimbus
Nyxl really bottom tier this year
ebon aurora
Majed against ChiYo on Lucio is a diff
next mesa
NY is a shit team
willow drum
MAJED??
cunning patrol
<@652901872692101126> is guriyo diffing hydron
ye
last nimbus
Wow, majed, LOL
lofty shale
how was nobody on point
balmy wolf
fuel went rush
lofty shale
they were legit brawling like half an inch away from the point
how did no one touch
that is so sad
willow drum
?? HYDRON
cunning patrol
chorong vindaim 1a 1b
shut up
ch0r0ng is way better
1a and 1b is ch0r0ng and fastro
ebon aurora
we're talking rookies...
cunning patrol
even dumber
balmy wolf
florida just a goofy ahh team
willow drum
we're talking rookies...
chorong is > fastro
he is the best MS in the world
it was revealed chorong had the biggest rookie contract
ebon aurora
I haven't been impressed by Chorong, just my opinion
cunning patrol
u give ch0r0ng
cunning patrol
fits profit smurf
last nimbus
ch0r0ng has been prob been one of the best ms in west rn
cunning patrol
or fearless hanbin fielder
willow drum
ch0r0ng has been prob been one of the best ms in west rn
he is better than both the top 2 ms in the east
cunning patrol
and he does more
last nimbus
ch0r0ng twilight is the only real reason toronto is winning matches
cunning patrol
stats can suck my nuts
last nimbus
stats dont mean much
lofty shale
the stats are available aren't they
last nimbus
not on ms and mt
balmy wolf
sheeesh
full lichen
Mayhem we're doing so well too
last nimbus
i dont know
last nimbus
last time i checked the stats lab, 2022 season wasnt a part of it
north relic
almost like fearless isn't bad and you shouldn't keep forcing hanbin
Hanbin best individual in the league
lofty shale
hanbin is good too though, just depends on what fuel want to play
cunning patrol
ot is bad in this meta
willow drum
in my opinion if you move ch0r0ng to any of the top 5 teams in the world
cunning patrol
unless you are runing sig
willow drum
he will DOMINATE
idle ore
nooo mayhem
last nimbus
fuel just has weak mental
balmy wolf
doesn't matter if fearless would better suit the map
last nimbus
So where is anamo?? Did mayhem think fuel would play hanbin?
balmy wolf
mayb
lofty shale
florida just better on the attack i guess
last nimbus
Nah, attack is just easier for 5v5
balmy wolf
real and true
last nimbus
Dealing damage as tank is easier than defending 5 people on your own
balmy wolf
someone wasted shatter
willow drum
was it fearless?
balmy wolf
tbh
willow drum
/j
last nimbus
Also, is jaws casting with uberx?
balmy wolf
hydron refusing to lose rn
lofty shale
sojourn is just soldier with quick access to widow's sniper instead of a helix rocket
balmy wolf
Also, is jaws casting with uberx?
y
last nimbus
Wow, nekkra unavailable for 2 weeks and the whole talent team is chaos, lol
balmy wolf
surely dallas wins
brave zenith
they called it
errant hornet
if it was hadi he gets it 🤷
brave zenith
feel like if someone wouldnt have jumped tho he wouldve had it
errant hornet
be hadi
brave zenith
fuel quite literally got lucky w that push
errant hornet
hadi woulda gone TO the spawn door
balmy wolf
???
willow drum
hadi would have won
errant hornet
sigma male
errant hornet
you are so fucking dumb
balmy wolf
someone fed
errant hornet
jesus
brave zenith
someone was literally trying to go for a crazy play
balmy wolf
sadly
last nimbus
Mayhem thought for a second
brave zenith
if someone didnt do that, fuel wouldve prob lost tbh
last nimbus
LMAO the coach left so fast
brave zenith
LMAO the coach left so fast
i wouldve too
lofty shale
no fucking shot dallas won that wtf
ebon aurora
that coach ragequit
last nimbus
they dropped the ball
ebon aurora
Someone threw that with the flank shatter
idle ore
NOOOOO
brave zenith
someone threw for the content
idle ore
MAYHEM
errant hornet
yeah
idle ore
TF
brave zenith
i wouldve been pissed if i was the coach
balmy wolf
fuel doubters
cloud latch
th3y def should helf choke and not invest
balmy wolf
love to see it
cloud latch
held*
balmy wolf
keep that same energy
errant hornet
I mean I thought they would lose that game
brave zenith
th3y def should helf choke and not invest
exactly
lofty shale
someone is about to get the belt from the coach lmao
ebon aurora
wait did Fearless block that shatter?
brave zenith
mayhem was destroying fuel on that choke
brave zenith
wait did Fearless block that shatter?
yea
ebon aurora
what a god
ebon aurora
that timing
errant hornet
they seemed better but still
unreal raven
poor the mayhem
brave zenith
i think 1 person got shattered but someone got immediately killed
errant hornet
that timing
I mean that wasn't that crazy tbh
hes so far away teh audio q is pretty large
ebon aurora
I mean if you can't expect it
balmy wolf
kinda is
errant hornet
it was a good block
but plenty of owl players would hit that
hes so far again
and you don't see rein
so
idk
errant hornet
lol
brave zenith
it just takes a bit of gamesense to acknowledge where someone would even be
but it was still a good block nonetheless
errant hornet
I agree with them but it feels weird coming from an OWL team lol
lofty shale
lol teams posting politics for brownie points
full lichen
Florida made it competitive at least
ebon aurora
Guriyo POTM Pog
vagrant jacinth
Actual big W from nyxl
ebon aurora
Personally I'd have said Fearless
balmy wolf
guriyo w
last nimbus
"an unbelievable transformation for the dallas fuel" bro they just put the right players on the right roles 💀
errant hornet
uh
ebon aurora
but Guriyo did outplay Hydron
ebon aurora
Fearless was nasty on Winston, Rein and Ball
errant hornet
I think fearless played better
cloud latch
everyoneplayed very well on dallas
balmy wolf
how was that shot on mei not a headshot
errant hornet
I just get nervous about the winston
willow drum
everyoneplayed very well on dallas
🤣
errant hornet
cause I doubt it would win against the top teams
ebon aurora
that was easily Fearless's best showing this season
errant hornet
in this meta
balmy wolf
💀
willow drum
if only you could say the same about your team
shock will win s6
errant hornet
for obv reasons
if THIS meta persists
Shock have a good chance of winning
but the second its last meta
or something similar
I think they struggle more
imo
ebon aurora
How many maps are you giving Titans v Reign
willow drum
notice i said s6
errant hornet
like ofc they have a good chance in the double flex support meta
cloud latch
shock will win s6
as long as shock signs actually good players instead of na contenders
willow drum
as long as shock signs actually good players instead of na contenders
yes agreed
balmy wolf
i want to believe in titans
willow drum
Shock will sign
ebon aurora
I mean, I've gone 3-0
cloud latch
yes agreed
theyll have a chance*
willow drum
MuZe Clestyn/Max HeeSang Proper Kilo Bliss FiNN Viol2t
solar trout
Some
ne
willow drum
they will win the league with that team
errant hornet
I wwould like to believe in Dallas, but rn they kinda look on the weaker end of the best NA teams
balmy wolf
muze?
willow drum
assuming glads keeps pati
brave zenith
but they also performed great against some good teams
willow drum
dallas have shit dps still
errant hornet
like they get bodied by Shock, Glads, ATL
balmy wolf
I just don't feel like he'd be signed by shock
errant hornet
at least
willow drum
I just don't feel like he'd be signed by shock
why not
last nimbus
3 3-0's today
ebon aurora
eh, we had 2 3-2 in APAC
errant hornet
the issue for dallas is that they are really dependent on a good meta
balmy wolf
idk it feels sorta random
earnest leaf
shock historically also doesn't do full korean rosters
errant hornet
aka one where sparkle can play comfort and hanbin can fuck on zarya
ebon aurora
the issue for dallas is that they are really dependent on a good meta
isn't that most teams
like take Shock last stage
errant hornet
isn't that most teams
yeah but some more than others tbf
earnest leaf
and dropping coluge/mikeyy after this year (coluge mainly) would be stupid
errant hornet
like obv some teams have only shown a good look on one comp
earnest leaf
You don't make winning rosters by swapping players all the time, you create a solid core and maintain and develop it
willow drum
You don't make winning rosters by swapping players all the time, you create a so...
not when your "solid" core has weak pieces
brave zenith
the only player who i can see getting replaced is viol2t, for whenever he eventually retires
willow drum
the only player who i can see getting replaced is viol2t, for whenever he eventu...
???
errant hornet
I mean Coluge and Mikeyy can be fine
willow drum
no way you said viol2t
errant hornet
but they aren't top
willow drum
and not s9mm
brave zenith
i said if he retires
willow drum
the big roster hole
balmy wolf
sign a main support challenge
balmy wolf
sign a main support challenge
nyxl moment
brave zenith
tbf
willow drum
because shock acad team has o2 blast
brave zenith
i forgot abt s9mm
earnest leaf
he said when viol2t retires
brave zenith
so that's on me
willow drum
he said when viol2t retires
that still doesn't account for heesang
brave zenith
i forgot he was even on that team
brave zenith
then s9mm & viol2t*
errant hornet
at least
balmy wolf
tough
earnest leaf
because s9mm lets them run certain comps kilo/proper can't run
unless you want to see kilo echo
errant hornet
ik that but still
like I wonder if it would just be better to stick to kilo only?
maybe thats too weird idk
just speculation
brave zenith
it prob would be
earnest leaf
It all depends on the meta
Proper will always start and play the dps he is best at between the two, if the secondary dps is going to be a HS, kilo plays
If it is going to be a fdps hero, s9mm plays
very basic
which is what they have done so far
cloud latch
I mean its sojourn so kilo should play imo
willow drum
in my personal opinion
shock should stop going mixed
and just go full korean
to win
earnest leaf
why
cloud latch
theyre running tracer echo?
earnest leaf
They won 2 seasons on a mixed roster lmao
willow drum
the good players they get
earnest leaf
all korean rosters
willow drum
with weak spots
earnest leaf
Stupid to restrict yourself from NA talent
willow drum
Stupid to restrict yourself from NA talent
it is not
earnest leaf
Especially with some of the players we've seen come from there
willow drum
who from NA
is better
than their KR counterpart
in potential s6 shock
MuZe Clestyn/Max Proper HeeSang Kilo Bliss FiNN Viol2t
cloud latch
OH FLAMEKNIGHTT
cloud latch
IS S9MM TOP 5 FDPS THIS SEASON?
earnest leaf
no
cloud latch
top 10?
cloud latch
hmmmmmmm intriguing...
cloud latch
prob not little 5
static pond
the good players they get
Didn't super learn Korean and the rest learned English
willow drum
Didn't super learn Korean and the rest learned English
?
earnest leaf
super never learned korean
cloud latch
this is tough
static pond
Really?
cloud latch
maybe he is little 5