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worn falcon
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30% speed

tulip tulip
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Also you had an error spelling hasbeen

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Why does it say hanbin?

plush grail
north relic
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Commanding shout sounds op

worn falcon
plush grail
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oh wait thats a normal ability, not her ult

worn falcon
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and Brig

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ez

plush grail
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thats fucked

north relic
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How much is lucio speed

willow drum
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MT: this is not bad
OT: Danteh is not in there lmfao
Projectile: Yaki and Alphayi are not in there and you only have 4
Hitscan: Mer1t and Aspire are not in there
FS: Krillin is not in there where is Fielder or Vigi
MS: Viol2t is not in there where is Chorong

north relic
full lichen
willow drum
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Triste your list screams casual

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tbh

tulip tulip
willow drum
full lichen
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At first I was gonna meme it

willow drum
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kevster proper leave pelican fleta all better than alphayi

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profit zest around equal

north relic
tulip tulip
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Leave sucks

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He hasnt done much

willow drum
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sure

full lichen
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Imma be honest when I was memeing I had Jinmu over Kev

willow drum
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Also get mer1t and aspire

tulip tulip
willow drum
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out of your hitscan

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please

full lichen
tulip tulip
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Aspire < Shockwave

willow drum
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kilo > mer1t

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shockwave > aspire

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lmao

full lichen
full lichen
tulip tulip
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Triste your meming still right

full lichen
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No

full lichen
tulip tulip
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YAY

willow drum
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my man has UV and Krillin instead of motherfucking Vigilante and Fielder

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please

tulip tulip
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Vigil hasnt played

willow drum
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change that

tulip tulip
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What the heck

willow drum
full lichen
willow drum
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if you watched contendies

willow drum
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if he was 18 krillin would be perma bench warmer

full lichen
willow drum
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except for this meta

tulip tulip
willow drum
full lichen
tulip tulip
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You legit didnt know

willow drum
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to play 18 year olds

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if you played 18 year olds

full lichen
willow drum
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your org would be in trouble

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SO THEN HOW DOES KRILLIN "BENCH" VIGI

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Also please add a 5th projectile DPS @full lichen

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you only have 4 in there

full lichen
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Actually yes I do

tulip tulip
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F

cedar oasis
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krillin has looked top 7

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ngl

willow drum
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fielder

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is not in

cloud latch
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violet lol

willow drum
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their top 5

willow drum
tulip tulip
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Next he gonna put GNJ as top 5 MS

willow drum
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they don't have chorong

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this mf doesn't have the best MS

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in the league

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and instead has the floor lucio

full lichen
willow drum
full lichen
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He's been really good

tulip tulip
willow drum
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?

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?

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whoru is a genji 1 trick

tulip tulip
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Get a fucking brain you dumbass

willow drum
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proper clears

full lichen
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WhoRU owned Kickoff clash

full lichen
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Go to Liquipedia

willow drum
north relic
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MT: Reiner Smurf someone muze gaga
Ot: void hanbin hawk coluge (piggy????)
Fdps: proper kev yaki yi zest
Hs: lip fits mn3 Kai leave
Ms: chorong vindaim chiyo fastro I want to put ljg
Fs: shu finn fielder UV vigi

full lichen
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It says it right there lamoooo

willow drum
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??

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proper is the fdps player

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on his tea,

tulip tulip
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Proper is a hyperflex

full lichen
full lichen
willow drum
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stupid

tulip tulip
north relic
willow drum
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if you see what proper plays

full lichen
willow drum
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he is the projectile

north relic
willow drum
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player

hot onyx
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No MN3 ZEST?

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willow drum
north relic
willow drum
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they have mer1t

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and fucking

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aspire

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instead of mn3 kilo

full lichen
willow drum
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bird is a HS player

tulip tulip
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Mer1t has had like 1 good game

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Kilo is way better

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And mn3

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And carpe

full lichen
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My opinion is my opinion to me those are the best looking so far

tulip tulip
full lichen
tulip tulip
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HE IS

north relic
full lichen
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If Bird is a Hyperflex so it BQB

willow drum
north relic
willow drum
north relic
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Replace like zest

willow drum
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yeah peli over either zest yi is fine take

tulip tulip
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Birdring can play tracer, sombra, genji, reaper, soldier, cass, torb, widow, ashe

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Hanzo

balmy wolf
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birdring is not a hyperflex

worn falcon
willow drum
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52/60 is not bad

tulip tulip
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Ew

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A mei main

willow drum
north relic
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And I don’t want to put ojee

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Or nisha

willow drum
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ojee doesnt deserve it

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god if only bliss

north relic
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I was considering dridro

willow drum
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or yveltal

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was in the league

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nah dridro isnt there

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he is top 10 maybe

full lichen
cloud latch
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ojee boosted

north relic
tulip tulip
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Sorry

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Hydron > Leave
Heesu > Leave

willow drum
north relic
willow drum
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i want to put shitba

tulip tulip
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Hasbeen

cloud latch
north relic
willow drum
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actually no

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shitba < pig

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prob

north relic
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My closest thought was fury

willow drum
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ehh

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if only clestyn

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was in the league

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so unfortunate

north relic
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ot dropped off

tulip tulip
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XZI AND HYDRON ARE BEST HITSCANS IN THE LEAGUE

I AM ALSO A FLORIDA FAN

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CHANGE MY MIND

full lichen
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If only Super was here it would be better

willow drum
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do you wanna put cr0ng

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instead of piggy

north relic
full lichen
willow drum
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if only choi was still here

tulip tulip
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Also where is chadi

willow tartan
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LIP rolls every hitscan in the league

tulip tulip
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You dumbass

full lichen
tulip tulip
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@north relic

north relic
tulip tulip
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Nah

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Space can only dva

north relic
tulip tulip
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HUH??!?!?

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Who is hadi?

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I think you meant to say chadi?

willow tartan
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top five MTs

tulip tulip
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Someone, Chadi, Chadi, Chadi, and Reiner

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Done

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EZ

willow tartan
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wrong

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Chadmate 1

tulip tulip
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Oh crap

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Chadmate

willow tartan
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Chadmate 1, Fate 2, Smurf 3, Fearless 4, Someone 5.

willow drum
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okay here is my list

Main Tank: Reiner Smurf Someone MuZe Ga9a
Off Tank: Void Hanbin Hawk ColHUGE Cr0ng
FDPS: Proper Kevster Pelican Alphayi Zest
HS: Lip Fits Mn3 Kai Kilo
MS: Chorong Vindaim Chiyo Fastro Faith
FS: Shu Finn fielder vigilante UV

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i am not putting in leave, heesu, hydron over kilo

north relic
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shy diffs kilo

willow drum
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i would put happy if wj wasnt dogshit

north relic
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wait

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I forgot happy

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Replace my leave with happy

willow drum
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i only put kilo over happy

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because happy inconsistent

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imho

north relic
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justice fault imo

willow drum
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but happy looks good with defraud

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kilo looks good with proper

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so it is also a fdps diff

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if u put happy over kilo i would not be mad

vagrant jacinth
willow drum
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and faith > leejaegon

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(faith made boston have a close map against sf and 2 maps against atl)

north relic
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Ah yes

willow drum
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you probably take cr0ng

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over piggy

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cause cr0ng can play dva

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whereas piggy not too good out of sig

vagrant jacinth
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Is this a top 5 list?

willow drum
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yes

hot onyx
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you know there's a main support drought when Faith is a top 10 ms

willow drum
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shut up

hot onyx
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we need Aiden to save the day

willow drum
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faith is top 10

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for sure

north relic
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Lige diffs

willow drum
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and top 5

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for sure

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okay tbf

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if leejaegon

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did not feed

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he would be top 5

hot onyx
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Faith is not top 5 if you count Skewed and aren't anti chinese

willow drum
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nisha imo not > faith

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i would put xerneas

hot onyx
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correction

willow drum
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above

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but

vagrant jacinth
willow drum
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he is not in OWL

hot onyx
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Nisha not > Faith on lucio

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he is on brig and mercy

willow drum
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nisha = faith on brig

split flume
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How much playtime does faith even have on lucio

willow drum
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nisha = faith on mercy

hot onyx
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shut the fuck up Nisha is not = Faith on mercy

willow drum
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faith has unbreakable

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mental

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he literally made

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a map against sf close

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when his team was getting rolled

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and he got maps off ATL

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imo you cant overstate

hot onyx
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that's awesome but Nisha is still better

willow drum
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his IGL

hot onyx
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on merc

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and brig

willow drum
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to come in

north relic
hot onyx
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little bit of recency bias imo

willow drum
hot onyx
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average silver hog

willow drum
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?

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gesture is not talking

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what do you mean

hot onyx
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i forgor you ranked up to gold congratulations

cloud latch
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hellfire

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do you wanna join us in ow

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@willow drum

willow drum
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uh

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its a neftlix and chill day

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for me

cloud latch
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ok

willow drum
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i will pass for now

frosty patrol
frosty patrol
cunning patrol
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ur so stupid

twin bloom
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Faith brig is generational

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But ojay is better and one bad map in which it was a brig zen gapping bag brig

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Does not change that fact

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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Their is a reason why ATL is a big team

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And always will be

cunning patrol
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Odd

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Logic

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Imo

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They were a big team with Masaa

twin bloom
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For ms

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Competetion

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Teams with little ms's can not be good this year

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Unless they have proper

cunning patrol
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Disagree

tropic herald
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wait

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aprita

plush grail
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who

last nimbus
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ayo wait

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AYO WAIT

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WHAT

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PARIS WON?!?!!?

plush grail
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myunbong threw

ivory stag
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paris won LOL

vagrant jacinth
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Paris

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Won

burnt anchor
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I'm just not gonna watch anymore NYXL games because this shit is getting sad lol

last nimbus
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they lost to paris

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like bruh

burnt anchor
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fr

last nimbus
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how was dove playing

burnt anchor
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better than Glister

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He has some work to do but I don't think he was awful by any means

ivory stag
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yaki made mistake leavin mayhem

last nimbus
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paris v boston who wins

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i feel like theyre pretty equal

next mesa
devout path
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Jjonak :(

sullen berry
ivory stag
devout path
trail perch
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shy over like either kai or kilo

cunning patrol
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if ur basing it off this season shy is not top 5

trail perch
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shy has been pounding

cunning patrol
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also happy

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not in a top 5 list

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is delusional

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shy has been way worse than kilo lol

trail perch
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no shot

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not even close

next mesa
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Not washed

cunning patrol
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shy widow and soldier are both crazy underwhelming

trail perch
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cap

next mesa
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this season wise im afraid jazzy is correct

willow drum
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jazzy is correct

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kilo the goat should not be underrated

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i am arguing either kilo or happy

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happy is j on justuce

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which is why i put kilo as well

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because when happy is pouding

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he is top 5

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and when he is not pouding

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kilo is top 5

cunning patrol
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also mn3 isnt top 5

cedar oasis
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guriyo diffed kilo

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kilo sucks

cunning patrol
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how much do u weigh @cedar oasis

balmy wolf
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Tbf it was a player on the Dallas fuel during their meta playing against the justice kilo is still way more consistent just because guriyo diffed him once doesn’t mean he’s better

frosty patrol
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happy pounding is arguably top 3

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kilo's peaks are not there

willow drum
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unfortunate because he is on justice

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he also cant play sombra

frosty patrol
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tbh

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kilo sombra and happy sombra are both weak but passable

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also the happy echo exists

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goated

willow drum
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kilo sombra is stronger than happy sombra imo

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because i have seen him pull it out in contendies

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happy has not

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maybe that is brain dead take

frosty patrol
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happy sombra was average when we saw it

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if you recall

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he was playing it for charge end of season 3

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and was just

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fine

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not good

willow drum
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Unfortunate honestly

frosty patrol
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not terrible

willow drum
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Eileen is getting

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dropped

frosty patrol
cunning patrol
frosty patrol
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I would also like to bring up the following argument

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happy doesnt have to play sombra

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kilo is the sombra player on his team

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happy just needs to play hard hs

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and is so fucking elite on it

willow drum
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imo assass sombra

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is not impressive

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his neutrals r somewhay decent

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but emps are wack

cunning patrol
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its s9mmuel

willow drum
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not a real player

cloud latch
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s9mm only plays so shock doesn't have another ta1yo situation

willow drum
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s9mm will be replaced

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next year

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they will do him justice

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s9mm will go to the titans

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or some other shitter team

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and HeeSang will replace him

earnest leaf
willow drum
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?

earnest leaf
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all of ta1yo's heroes were covered by multiple people, only proper is better than s9mm on his heroes

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and s9mm isn't competing with proper for that spot, he just goes in and out with kilo

next mesa
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rare good flameknight take proper is better than s9mm and kilo on every hero

earnest leaf
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I legit predicted their dps rotation perfectly and people are still surprised s9mm plays

willow drum
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rare flameknight W

earnest leaf
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my takes are almost always top tier

willow drum
cunning patrol
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flameknightt is an idiot

next mesa
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flameknight spews

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F tier takes

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on a daily basis

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with an occasionally normal take

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here and there sprinkled in

cunning patrol
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imo

next mesa
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ok fair take

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it would be close

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but i can see it

willow drum
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kilo probably wins on widow

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maybe cass and ashe

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but proper cass and ashe were great in 2020

cunning patrol
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proper ashe is prolly worse than kilos

willow drum
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i mean proper got bob before mer1t got 47%

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in 2020

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i dont think kilo gaps mer1t that hard

cunning patrol
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mer1t ashe is very mid

willow drum
cunning patrol
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well proper doesnt play hs as much as he used to

next mesa
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mr hellfire

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imo using 2020 data is a bit flawed

willow drum
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data is data

frosty patrol
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and in regards to s9mmuel I unironically take the s9mm mei

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since imo

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proper mei is likely not that great

willow drum
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s9mm blizzard

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was deflected

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proper would never throw it into nero deflect

frosty patrol
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give proper a month of mei practice and he’s better than s9mmuel though

willow drum
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yes

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which is why if mei meta happens

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proper clears

cunning patrol
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if mei meta ever happens

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proper would just play the other hero

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lol

frosty patrol
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^

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true

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mei widow will never happen again

willow drum
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not if mei widow

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grr

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mei ashe

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or mei cass

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u probably take proper kilo

frosty patrol
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mei + long range hs was only due to horse hog

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mei soldier is > mei cass in ow2

cunning patrol
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mei cass would be proper s9mm lol

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cree is the easiest hs hero

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gap between kilo n propers is very small if there even is one in kilos favor

frosty patrol
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proper might actually just mechanically diff kilo out of the cassidy role

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kilo mechanics are great but proper is one of 3-4 human beings with human aimbot syndrome

earnest leaf
# willow drum is lip the best hs in the world

Depends on what you mean by HS, just widow/ashe/cass? That's harder to argue and there are a solid handful of people who could argue it. If you mean the role as a whole with shit like reaper/symm/tracer/sombra etc, even harder to say

cunning patrol
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with sym tracer n sombra the answer is incredibly obvious

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lol

frosty patrol
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lip is the best hard hs in the world

willow drum
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i mean widow ashe cass sombra tracer

earnest leaf
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Yea that's hard to say

cunning patrol
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no it is not

frosty patrol
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for hellfires it’s abundantly obvious that it’s lip

cunning patrol
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no hs player other than lip is good at sombra n tracer

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its acc kinda crazy how good he is at those heroes and hard hs

earnest leaf
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lip for widow/cass I want to see more

willow drum
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i want to see more as well

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such sexy mechanics

frosty patrol
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lip widow cass are both solidly top 3

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he’s the best ashe

earnest leaf
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just hard since there's a lot to judge other players on hard HS heroes, then there's lip who one tricks sombra practically

frosty patrol
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and tracer sombra he’s generational

frosty patrol
earnest leaf
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nearly half his playtime is sombra

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so in a way yea

frosty patrol
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nearly half last year
one tricking

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homie that’s nowhere near one tricking

earnest leaf
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Also with lip

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and i've seen it with other players too

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People see them being exceptional on one or two heroes, and end up overrating their other heroes

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Despite them having minimal playtime on those other heroes

frosty patrol
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lip’s ashe widow cass soldier hanzo reaper tracer and sombra are all exceptional

cunning patrol
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he has played every hero

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a good amount

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and hes been fucking every apac hs on widow this whole year??

cloud latch
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what are lip's "two" exceptional heroes

next mesa
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lip has

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the best ashe

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in the world

frosty patrol
cloud latch
cunning patrol
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real

earnest leaf
cloud latch
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?

earnest leaf
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Some players will be nasty af on a small set of heroes

next mesa
cloud latch
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you were talking about lip and other hitscans

next mesa
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very accurate ashe tier list

earnest leaf
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and heroes outside of their common hero pool end up getting overrated

cunning patrol
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na fits ashe aint that hot

frosty patrol
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so good

cunning patrol
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its def close to kais than lips

cloud latch
earnest leaf
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I was talking about every player, not just lip and HS

cunning patrol
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fits ashe is just

next mesa
cunning patrol
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good mechanics

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but godly util usage

frosty patrol
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hydron hs > lip hs

cunning patrol
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real

frosty patrol
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source: triste

cunning patrol
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top 5 ashe is prolly

cloud latch
cunning patrol
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lip fits mn3 kai carpe

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mayb not carpe since its been a while

earnest leaf
cloud latch
frosty patrol
cunning patrol
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oh ye shy

willow drum
frosty patrol
cloud latch
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how is that not implying

cunning patrol
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carpe 6th #real

willow drum
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Mer1t

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according to "Triste"

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Mer1t HS > Proper HS

frosty patrol
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the runner up to rookie of the year is hydron

earnest leaf
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You read it as implying, I never meant for it to specifically be meant for lip

willow drum
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Because Triste believed that Proper is HS player

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and didn't have Proper in Top 5 HS

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and instead had MF Mer1t and Hydron

cloud latch
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I'm also not saying it's specifically for lip

willow drum
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🤡

earnest leaf
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I am not going to argue semantics lmao

frosty patrol
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mer1t got bob while proper was 47 to his

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  • triste
cloud latch
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I'm just saying I don't think lip should ever be in the conversation of only be good at two exceptional heroes

willow drum
earnest leaf
cunning patrol
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he prolly isnt

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lol

willow drum
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but if u have mer1t

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and hydron

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in there

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lmaoo

cunning patrol
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real

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hydron sojourn is rlly good tho

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making na proud on it

willow drum
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mer1t soujourn needs some work

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sadly

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putting both over proper is yikes

frosty patrol
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yes but hydron is not the 2nd best rookie like triste says @cunning patrol

cloud latch
earnest leaf
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just drop it

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I don't care

cunning patrol
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ye idm

cloud latch
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💀 no way

cunning patrol
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leave "flameknightt" alone

earnest leaf
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I do not care to argue semantics and how people read sentences differently

cunning patrol
earnest leaf
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I'd rather lock ball vs sombra brig zen for 3 hours

frosty patrol
cunning patrol
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also eileen leaving gzc is the worst thing to happen all week since london being good

frosty patrol
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he’s 15th if I’m being generous

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lower if I’m being real

cloud latch
cunning patrol
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than i thought

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he would be

willow drum
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who is 2nd roty

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candidate

frosty patrol
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hydron

willow drum
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for real?

frosty patrol
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yes

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best rookie hs

cunning patrol
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reiner

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or vindaim

frosty patrol
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I would go proper then chorong or vindaim

cunning patrol
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2bad vindaim plays the irrelevant role

willow drum
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sadly the league hates MS players

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so none of them will get itles

frosty patrol
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even if ms is irrelevant being the best on your position as a rookie should be celebrated

cunning patrol
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ch0r0ng is

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not vindaim

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vindaim not better than chiyo tbh

frosty patrol
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fastro >= vindaim >= chiyo

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imo

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ch0r0ng above fastro

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honestly

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opener is a middling MS

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he’s decent on brig bap

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his lucio was just sus

cunning patrol
cunning patrol
willow drum
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mike did u see

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"Triste"

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had Viol2t instead of Ch0r0ng

cunning patrol
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opener is ass but better than i thought hed be

willow drum
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for Top 5 MS

frosty patrol
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TRISTE

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YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MAN ALIVE

cloud latch
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yeah LOL

willow drum
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take a look

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at MS

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carefully

cloud latch
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ojee in there

frosty patrol
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IF WE WERE IN OW MATCH CHAT I WOULD BE LESS NICE

willow drum
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and notice how he has 3 frauds in there

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he didn't even put top 5

cunning patrol
willow drum
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this motherfucker

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put 6 MS

earnest leaf
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why is viol2t up there for ms

willow drum
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and none of them were the best one

earnest leaf
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his brig is good but his lucio is just avg

willow drum
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what a chad

earnest leaf
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krillin on there too

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there is no fielder

earnest leaf
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danteh ot?

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aspire?

willow drum
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stupid take

frosty patrol
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krillin opener is a mid support line in current meta

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you’ve got krillin the above average zen and opener the below average bap

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balances out

cunning patrol
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fs: vig shu fielder finn uv
ms: r0ng chiyo vindaim fastro faith
hs: lip fits kai kilo happy
fdps: pelican proper profit kevster z*st
ot: void hanbin idk the rest are ass
mt: muze someone fearless reiner smurf

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i think im forgetting someone

cloud latch
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no you didn't forget someone

cunning patrol
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fuck

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hes gotta change is name

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asap

frosty patrol
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but he’s in hs jail currently

cunning patrol
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hed be on it over z*st

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forsure

willow drum
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Levi

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what r u typing

north relic
cunning patrol
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mn0 is washed

hot onyx
cunning patrol
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by develop on widow

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does not make my top 5

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mn3 was pretty mid this stage

hot onyx
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Anyone who carries Belosrea FiXa and Aimgod to a tournament finals makes my top 5

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But I’m mature enough to agree to disagree

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Also Leave over Profit

cunning patrol
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leave is washed TBH

hot onyx
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Don’t be blinded by a good stage, Profit can flop hard when he wants to

cunning patrol
cunning patrol
hot onyx
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ZEST was better yes

frosty patrol
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I had pelican proper kevster leave alphayi

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not in order

hot onyx
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But MN3 was top tier

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Particularly vs Dragons and Spark in KC

frosty patrol
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actually zest might be over alphayi

next mesa
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profit is a goat

cunning patrol
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mn3 is mn0 when is plays widow

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IMO

hot onyx
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That’s a nice opinion

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2nd point Gibraltar final fight vs Dragons disagrees

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its the truth too

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he ghosted that whole map

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lol

hot onyx
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So does Di “best player Valiant has ever had” ya

cunning patrol
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mn3 jus a bitch in officials then

twin bloom
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Also Faith above Skewed?

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skewed sucks

twin bloom
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In what metric

hot onyx
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That’s funny I almost believed that statement

cunning patrol
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the metric that i believe in

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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That is objectively

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Wrong

hot onyx
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Oh sorry I forgot about Unkoe

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ksp

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is

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Kai space izayaki etc

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Etc

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Fate

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As well

cunning patrol
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custa

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IMHO

twin bloom
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He was a big 3 mercy

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S1

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mt: smurf someone reiner gaga fearless (chadi honorable mention)
ot: hanbin void hawk punk coluge (Idek everyone else is just so far down below hanbin and void so)
hs: lip fits kai happy mn3
fdps: proper profit leave kevster pelican (sorry sans)
fs: shu fielder finn creative
ms: chorong fa chiyo vindaim ljg

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leejaewashed imo

frosty patrol
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creative?

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did you just forget da vig

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and uvee

cunning patrol
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ok ive had it up to here

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with creative

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he is very. mid

hot onyx
cunning patrol
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punk has been hitting

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on ot heroes

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imo

twin bloom
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Imo the best Valiant roster is
Kai
Shax
Whoever is less shit between Ksf and Becky
Fate
Space
Izayaki
Lengsa

cloud latch
hot onyx
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Becky infinitely less shit

cloud latch
twin bloom
next mesa
hot onyx
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Y’all conveniently forgetting Shy

cloud latch
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I like creative :)

hot onyx
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In these top 5’s

cloud latch
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as long as he's off bap*

next mesa
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his zen is ok

cunning patrol
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shy top 5 is not true

next mesa
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his ana is

cunning patrol
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lol

next mesa
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quite good

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bap

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horrid

plush grail
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Y'all suck

next mesa
#

moira

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bad

hot onyx
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Carrying multiple matches with Gooshway and Superbitch

cunning patrol
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bernar and betayi are carrying him

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his widowmaker and soldier are mid

plush grail
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Is Bernar still in owl??

cloud latch
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he's on spark

hot onyx
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He wouldn’t be if LiGe wasn’t stuck in therapy

cunning patrol
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lige gotta buy some antidepressants and get out there

hot onyx
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Mans a top 5 off tank

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Stuck in mental jail

twin bloom
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Lige just isn't better than goatnar

frosty patrol
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lige is the 3rd best ot

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stuck in mental jail

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actually hawk

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4th

twin bloom
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Team CC outperformed the sum of its parts

hot onyx
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I would argue Hawk belongs 3rd

twin bloom
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Imho

hot onyx
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Yes

frosty patrol
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lige was also a god on blg

twin bloom
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Diya innovation very middling dps line

cloud latch
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I hurt me to put hawk in top 5 😔

twin bloom
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Ga9a ball one play

plush grail
twin bloom
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Lige permabenched for goatnar

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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Faraway 1987 idk he has a stupid name

plush grail
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I'm trying

twin bloom
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Supernich more like superfraud

plush grail
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Sans keeps me hostage

twin bloom
hot onyx
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Put LiGe 800 on UP Academy and they’re unstoppable @frosty patrol

hot onyx
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Anyway agree or disagree with this list

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False
Vestola Daan
Punk Itsal
Kellan
Cr0ng Rio
Sasin Marve1
Poko Hadi
Someone
Fury Belosrea
Bernar Guxue
Kalios Mag
Hotba MuZe
DAIZI GA9A
Piggy Danteh
Coluge Mikeyy

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(no order)

cloud latch
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what's this list ?

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like what's it about

hot onyx
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I’m so glad you asked, Levi

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But I’m afraid it’s for others to guess

twin bloom
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He is a big ot

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Held back

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By skairipa

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Masaa

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Etc

frosty patrol
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you know who's an even bigger ot?

lofty shale
twin bloom
frosty patrol
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well yes but you know who else?

twin bloom
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Hawk

hot onyx
frosty patrol
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I'll give you a hint

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they're not in owl

cloud latch
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honestly

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I agree with the list

twin bloom
frosty patrol
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they're korean

twin bloom
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Soko

frosty patrol
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they are current or former t1 and not named sixfeet

twin bloom
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But probably

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Clestyn

frosty patrol
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yes

twin bloom
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Clestyn

frosty patrol
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and what team does clestyn have ties to currently

twin bloom
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Idk

hot onyx
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Clestyn and whom?

twin bloom
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But he was

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On t1

frosty patrol
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t1 is the academy team of what owl team

twin bloom
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Nyxl

frosty patrol
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fusion*

hot onyx
frosty patrol
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and what maintank has played on fusion for 3 years previously?

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and is currently a free agent?

twin bloom
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Fragi

hot onyx
frosty patrol
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2 but close

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it's sado

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sado clestyn is better than every tankline sans listed

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according to sans

hot onyx
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They are

frosty patrol
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my fellow ecopoint podcast recurring co-host sans

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has based takes

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about sado clestyn

hot onyx
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In a sense of tanklines they are

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Sado is not individually better than GA9A or Mag

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But the gap is bigger between Clestyn and DAIZI Kalios

frosty patrol
frosty patrol
hot onyx
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Yes

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Like how Clestyn isn’t better than Hawk

willow drum
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he is

hot onyx
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But Sado gaps Gator harder

hot onyx
frosty patrol
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clestyn is not better than hawk

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he is equal to hawk

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imo

willow drum
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hawk overrated

frosty patrol
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yes

cloud latch
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sans gotta win over the na simps to convince them

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quite the 5 head strat

hot onyx
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Also if the Space allegations are true

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Clestyn gaps Reiner on off tanks

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#hottake

twin bloom
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Hawk doom is generational

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Hawk is the most underatted player in overleague history

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It is so sad

north relic
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our KR draft

cloud latch
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yes stay awake for us

willow drum
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sans join kr draft

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@cunning patrol do u want to join kr draft

cunning patrol
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NO.

frosty patrol
hot onyx
#

But no matter what points I make or how much I analyse, Fusion fans on twitter will claim Fury Belosrea is good because they “made grand finals” and that “Sado is a bottom feeder without a top 5 backline” and Clestyn is “just average” or bad because of 2020 Spitfire

willow tartan
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problem: usage of twittr

north relic
cunning patrol
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someone cuz his team is good

willow drum
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someone muze or fearless

north relic
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lets go im the smorter

hot onyx
north relic
willow drum
twilit oriole
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MUZE

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Any day

willow tartan
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just draft bro?

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what is order

willow drum
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we banned top 2 of each role

willow tartan
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thats not an order

willow drum
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idk order

willow tartan
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fuckwit

willow drum
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has not been decided

willow tartan
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roll a die

willow drum
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but r u joining

willow tartan
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ok

hot onyx
willow drum
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yes

hot onyx
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Aight

north relic
willow drum
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mike said he cant do it before 7:30

frosty patrol
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7:15*

willow drum
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okay 7:15

frosty patrol
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hellfire read challenge

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well at least you don’t have 6 Fs like mystary

willow drum
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sans when are u going to bed

hot onyx
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In bed rn

willow drum
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hmm

hot onyx
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That’s why I asked for the dm approach

willow drum
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yeah sure can DM

hot onyx
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Alrighty

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Lmk when my turn comes

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And send the draft link @frosty patrol

willow drum
hot onyx
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But you’re not Mike

willow drum
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okay buddy

frosty patrol
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On vacation from my duties as commissioner of ED activities

hot onyx
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Fair enough

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Everybody needs a break

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Look at KSF

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But he’s gonna come back any day now

cloud latch
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I believe

willow drum
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@earnest leaf do u wanna participate

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in korean players draft

north relic
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The only kr player he knows is ans

willow drum
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it is fine

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@full lichen do you want to join

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our korean players draft

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anybody wanna join the kr rough draft

full lichen
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I'll bo it

willow drum
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les go

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okay new order

north relic
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can we do the first picks

willow drum
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  1. Triste 2. Sans 3. LSD 4. levi 5. hellfire 6. mike 7. memeicus
willow drum
ivory stag
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tf yall talkin about

willow drum
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korena players drfat

willow tartan
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when are we starting

willow drum
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now

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mike is being skipped first round

willow tartan
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Rolled

willow drum
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yes

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join

earnest leaf
willow drum
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ok

cloud latch
#

🥵

north relic
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❓

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proof alphayi fucks

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north relic
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memeicus

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@willow tartan krillin is the best pick

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or irony

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@willow tartan get WHORU

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@willow tartan FLORA

hot onyx
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Howdy folks

willow drum
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hey

hot onyx
#

EZhan is kr

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Bozo

#

Develop is B- without Rio holding him back

north relic
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@frosty patrol ezhan is KR

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HOW DIDNT MEMEICUS PICK FLORA

willow tartan
#

2 man DPS roster

hot onyx
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Because Flora fucking sucks dick

willow tartan
#

glister better flexible player

frosty patrol
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eqo is korean

unknown.png
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fyi

willow drum
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@cloud latch flora?

hot onyx
#

@cloud latch

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I think

north relic
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@cloud latch heesu

hot onyx
#

You should allow Heesu

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Don’t pick Ans over Heesu

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Miserable bastard

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Flora Victoria over Heesu is trolling

cunning patrol
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It’s true

hot onyx
#

+Runaway and Talon

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Excuse me why is my roster bad?

#

MN3 ZEST with good tanks and supports

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Ok hear me out on this

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Hear me out

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I am going to pick

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Skewed

north relic
hot onyx
#

No listen

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Skewed mercy is not bad

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Skewed brig is top tier

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Skewed zen has flexibility for double fs

north relic
hot onyx
#

Fielder is the bap and ana

north relic
hot onyx
#

I think y’all are sleeping

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As if LJG has a better lucio than Skewed anyway

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Plus Fate rein is suicide

frosty patrol
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Opener does though

hot onyx
#

Yes order them without including yourself

#

Listen i think Skewed lucio is better than FiXa does anybody here disagree?

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Anybody at all?

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Easy mistake to make

#

True @frosty patrol

fathom igloo
#

what is happening

hot onyx
#

Can I sell propaganda about my team?

fathom igloo
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no

hot onyx
#

Ass assin is not B when CSW is in that category and blatantly above him

frosty patrol
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low A

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assassin is mid B

hot onyx
#

Does anyone disagree that my dps line is the best in the draft?

frosty patrol
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yes