esports-discussion

[frosty patrol]

hydron: the 12th best rookie and 14th once vigilante speedily play

wait I forgot reiner

13th

[devout path]

Reiner true

[frosty patrol]

and 15th once vigilante speedily play

[cunning patrol]

Who cares

[full lichen]

Nah

Hydron better than Mn3 and Zest

[lofty shale]

alphayi, zest, mn3, someone, sirmajed, proper, finn, reiner, pati (does pati count? i think he does)

[devout path]

Victoria > hydron

[split flume]

no way you just said that

[cunning patrol]

Real

[split flume]

mn3 is the best rookie hard hs player

[cunning patrol]

Pati is not better than hydron lol

[lofty shale]

hydron is not better than mn3 and zest

[frosty patrol]

????

[full lichen]

Cap

[last nimbus]

u cant win roty if u start playing halfway through the season

[cunning patrol]

By no stretch of the imagination

[frosty patrol]

mn3 zest have been carrying their team

[cunning patrol]

Pati is a bum

[frosty patrol]

mn3 is so much better than hydron

zest too

[full lichen]

Kinda

[lofty shale]

bro you are so in denial

[devout path]

Do u watch apac

[full lichen]

Hydron hard carrying the Mayhem

[devout path]

???

No someone is

[lofty shale]

are you really gonna die on the hydron hill? of all players to die defending is it really gonna be hydron?

[full lichen]

Yeah, I like Spark and Dynasty

[lofty shale]

like seriously i like hydron but he is not close to roty

[candid radish]

Did boston get fucked map 3

[cunning patrol]

Nah

[devout path]

Ok but do you watch the games

[willow drum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/695481972776239194/988199278205894747/image0.jpg

[full lichen]

Yeah

[lofty shale]

i don't know why you think hydron is so good

[devout path]

Cuz I swear you don’t

[willow drum]

less fucked than usual

[last nimbus]

Ooooo shiiit the whole gang is together

[full lichen]

Lmaooooooo

[last nimbus]

finally!

[devout path]

Otherwise you would never ever fucking say hydron is better than mn3 zest and alphayi

[frosty patrol]

starting hs players better than hydron: lip fits shy leave sparkr kilo mn3 diya kai mer1t happy

[split flume]

https://twitter.com/sen_ebooks/status/1538640509845254144?s=20&t=R6TkYbw9VnH6M6I0tqHGTQ

森 sen (@sen_ebooks)

didn't have the chance to post this earlier, but mood

Twitter · Jun 19, 2022, 9:50 PM

[frosty patrol]

man if only hydron was above mid

[full lichen]

Yes

[full lichen]

Hydron OG Sojourn player since he was the first (And best) so far

[lofty shale]

afking them for league tokens doesn't count bro

[frosty patrol]

he thinks hydron is so good because hydron said AT would've been top 5 in the ggrecon interview

[frosty patrol]

hydron has not been the best sojourn

[full lichen]

I actually watch them tho lmao

[frosty patrol]

that is lunacy

[devout path]

Large majority of the league dps are better than hydron

[full lichen]

Cap

[lofty shale]

yea hydron is very much middle of the bell curve

he is not bad but he ain't top 20% of the league

[frosty patrol]

midron would not start on 12 other teams in the league

[willow drum]

hydron starts on glads

[devout path]

All of the dps on the top teams are better dps than hydron except pati

[willow drum]

probably

[lofty shale]

hydron is like the definition of being mid

[frosty patrol]

well 11 because he starts on houston during the sojourn meta

[frosty patrol]

agree

because pati ans are shit

[willow drum]

also houston

maybe?

[devout path]

No

[full lichen]

The only teams Hydron wouldn't start on is Glads SFS Dynasty Spark and Dragons

[devout path]

Houston

[lofty shale]

TAKE THAT BACK I LOVE ANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[frosty patrol]

you are the dumbest man alive

[full lichen]

Pati is awesome

[twin bloom]

Listen if London and Mayhem are currently top 5 in NA

[lofty shale]

agree

[frosty patrol]

hydron does not bench happy mn3 and kai

[twin bloom]

I think AT very well

Could be top 5

Rn

[willow drum]

???? You think he starts on Fusion

[devout path]

Also no way you think hydron would start on philly

[twin bloom]

But that is just my take

[full lichen]

He could if double Hitscan is being used

[lofty shale]

bro someone fucking ban him bro he's trolling us

[frosty patrol]

in NA yes

not overall

[devout path]

Carpe mn3

[willow drum]

no because mn3 carpe

are both HS

lmfao

[full lichen]

Carpe kinda washed tho

[twin bloom]

They would massively sup gap

[frosty patrol]

mn3 carpe > hydron

[twin bloom]

Da fusion

[devout path]

??????

[frosty patrol]

fusion is ass

[twin bloom]

Also MT gap

[split flume]

https://twitter.com/Avast_o/status/1538635992978038786?s=20&t=oPfL0nnUmvT9Fr3iY6T8bg

Avast (@Avast_o)

https://t.co/hN84VB44fV

Twitter · Jun 19, 2022, 9:33 PM

[lofty shale]

bro just said carpe washed

[twin bloom]

Em

[frosty patrol]

nobody mentioned them

[willow drum]

sure but still > hydron

[full lichen]

Nah

[willow drum]

okay watch carpe

then

for once

[twin bloom]

Also with the AT being in owl

[frosty patrol]

I take seoul over them

[twin bloom]

That means

Atl

[frosty patrol]

as well as fuel if they get their shit together

atlanta

[willow drum]

i hate overrating carpe but you can't overrate hydron

[frosty patrol]

shock

[willow drum]

lmfao

[frosty patrol]

and glads

[twin bloom]

Glads

And shock

Lose

Core members

[full lichen]

I have watched all of Carpe's playing time so far this year and he hasn't impressed me

[willow drum]

then watch better

[frosty patrol]

I have watched all of Hydron's playing time so far this year and he hasn't impressed me

[willow drum]

Triste I have a question for you, who was the FS for the team that went 2nd place in the most recent Korean Contendors Season?

[full lichen]

That's pretty damn hard when I watch it on phine

[lofty shale]

actually maybe disagree there was a guy in here earlier trying to tell me that they should make it so that on control if you have 80% or higher progress it should be an instant win when you take it back

[last nimbus]

aww the kid

[full lichen]

How did we go from OWL to contenders?

[frosty patrol]

triste

[split flume]

uber junior

[willow drum]

This player is in OWL now

[frosty patrol]

which non-fully chinese non-korean flex support was on UP

[willow drum]

This question determines your legitemacy at OWL takes

[last nimbus]

nyxl will prob dps diff

[willow drum]

Didn't someone say Majed lmfao

[frosty patrol]

yes

dumbest man alive

[lofty shale]

Triste you're only digging yourself deeper please just get off the hill

[willow drum]

omg i cant unsee

[last nimbus]

tank and support are paris favored

[willow drum]

@frosty patrol also we start off with kr region and big names

because it is easier

casuals dont know cn region

but some know kr

[frosty patrol]

ok true the UP question determines contenders take legitimacy

not owl takes

[full lichen]

I forgot whether Talon or O2 Blast was second place

[willow drum]

💀

you have a 50% chance

to get it right

[full lichen]

I remember it was those two

[frosty patrol]

he's gonna say charon

[willow drum]

yes you are correct

[plush grail]

''they're making moves'' and they mention the support line we have had for almost 1,5 full years now

[willow drum]

talon and o2 were first and second

but which order

[twin bloom]

Same

I only watched

Proper

Vods

[full lichen]

I don't remember lmao

[frosty patrol]

he's gonna say its viol2t because o2 were second

[willow drum]

it is fine because you are NA andy

[twin bloom]

And AT and dm na matches

[ivory stag]

wub looks like my Mii character i had when i was 8

[lofty shale]

i mean kaan has had his moments i think he's ok

[willow drum]

unfortunate.

[tiny pollen]

o2 won

[full lichen]

I only watched the first half

[frosty patrol]

ok well I guess he has to answer another question

because of outside help

[willow drum]

okay fine, who was the fs for the 2nd place team

[willow drum]

that is assuming he knows anything about talon

[last nimbus]

this doesnt feel like a competetive match

[lofty shale]

triste you clearly don't really know what you're talking about they're not really taking you seriously, do some research and maybe then try to make an argument when you have better info

[last nimbus]

more like a friendly match

[full lichen]

Idk the answer so Imma guess

[frosty patrol]

@full lichen who was the main support on the 2nd place team in the asia gauntlet 2020

[willow drum]

actually held back

so much

[frosty patrol]

this is another easy question

[willow drum]

by Itsal

[last nimbus]

LETSGO PARIS

FIRST CAP

[frosty patrol]

SHUT UP

OUTSIDE HELP

[plush grail]

AAAAAAAA

[willow drum]

i am sorry

my blood boils

[last nimbus]

wub carrying

[willow drum]

whenever i think of how much

said ms was being held back

[last nimbus]

don't worry wub carrying dont worry

[willow drum]

it is a good thing

he will be going to shock

[frosty patrol]

triste answer is taking way too long

probably used liquipedia

[lofty shale]

yea he obviously is looking it up or doesn't know

[plush grail]

@frosty patrolask me a owl trivia question

[full lichen]

I watch a little bit of contenders, I mainly watch OWL and then do a bunch of research on teams that I like

[lofty shale]

if it takes you more than 15 seconds to answer that easy of a question then you don't know

[solar trout]

believe in the wub a dove

[lofty shale]

we can tell dont worry

[frosty patrol]

who was the first player ever to leave the seoul dynasty

[full lichen]

I know that Coluge first played Overwatch on Xbox

[plush grail]

your desk after the rein failed to take highground

[plush grail]

munchkin

i think

[frosty patrol]

esca

[willow drum]

okay fine, which team went 2nd place back to back in owl 2021 (stage finals)

[frosty patrol]

the hidden seoul player esca

[split flume]

esca was never signed to dynasty

[full lichen]

I know Vulcan was the first even non-Korean signed by NYXL

[frosty patrol]

if you navigate to liquipedia

and view the former players list

[last nimbus]

just realized that they put matt and uber on lower tier matches so they make it look more intense

[frosty patrol]

you will be enlightened

[full lichen]

Wasn't it Chengdu

[split flume]

huh

would you look at that

[willow drum]

good good

[plush grail]

well yeah the casters with experience know how to cast low tier games and don't just meme around like the new duos

[frosty patrol]

the hidden seoul player

[plush grail]

how close was i @frosty patrol

[last nimbus]

wub is playing well

[frosty patrol]

10th

[lofty shale]

why does wub look like that lmao

[last nimbus]

he looks good

[lofty shale]

wub looks funny

[last nimbus]

oh u mean physique

[lofty shale]

idk what about him

[willow drum]

new york is so shit

lmao

[split flume]

myunbong went to space

[lofty shale]

dude just looks funny

[last nimbus]

hes close to his cam

[frosty patrol]

ok triste

I have an owl question for you

[willow drum]

what is this clown of a team

[frosty patrol]

name every justice player in 2019

[willow drum]

@north relic theyre running

gnj lucio

myungboung zen

[split flume]

new york worst team in the league?

real or real

[willow drum]

real

[twin bloom]

Ny fucking suck lol

[full lichen]

How tf am I supposed to remember that?

[frosty patrol]

it's easy

I can name drop every player in owl history

[lofty shale]

maybe i would need to see them go against dpei coached vancouver

[full lichen]

I only started liking Justice also year lmao

[last nimbus]

uh sleepy

only one i know

[frosty patrol]

correct

ok just name the supports

[plush grail]

corey

[last nimbus]

wait no ado

[frosty patrol]

of which there were 5

sleepy is the free answer

[last nimbus]

they had 5 supports??

wtf

[willow drum]

one of them is on lucky future

[split flume]

overwatch goat gido

[willow drum]

yes

3 more retired

[last nimbus]

oh gido

[willow drum]

supports

[last nimbus]

lmao

[split flume]

fahzix BABY

[full lichen]

The Justice did with supports like Valiant did with DPS lmao

[split flume]

THE BIG MAN HIMSELF

[last nimbus]

something with an x

[frosty patrol]

2 more

[last nimbus]

idk

[frosty patrol]

1 is easy

[split flume]

little shit like this is why fahzix got picked up right

[frosty patrol]

1 is hidden knowledge

[last nimbus]

fahzix crazy

yeah idk anymore

[full lichen]

I have a trivia question for you, who was the first ROTY

[frosty patrol]

haksal

[last nimbus]

later myungbong

[full lichen]

Wrong

[willow drum]

he is right

[frosty patrol]

I swear he's gonna say jjonak

[willow drum]

roty didnt exist

in s1

[lofty shale]

triste you seem dumb as fuck

[frosty patrol]

ok guys

[solar trout]

s1 mvp is defacto roty

[frosty patrol]

2 more justice supports

[willow drum]

wasnt it

ark

[frosty patrol]

please name them

[lofty shale]

you said first roty not roty season 2018

[viscid bane]

I use Logitech G502 hero gotta say pretty nice mouse

[full lichen]

My bad, I didn't specify

[plush grail]

daan bullying myunbong

[split flume]

fuckin idk

[last nimbus]

who were the tanks

[split flume]

aimgod

[frosty patrol]

ok since you guys can't answer

ark hyeonu

[split flume]

he was on justice

[last nimbus]

FR daan is playing so well

[willow drum]

i got ark

i would have said hyeoneu

[frosty patrol]

hyeonu was the only one you missed

but hellfire knew

[last nimbus]

nice copy yaki

[frosty patrol]

as a knowledgeable fan

[plush grail]

ark, aka the most passive mercy in owl history

[willow drum]

rip ark

did not deserve to be kicked out

he would bench LJG on the mercy

(real)

[split flume]

ark

[plush grail]

wasnt kicked, he became god doctor

[last nimbus]

imagine getting diffed by wub

[willow drum]

?

[full lichen]

Lmao

[willow drum]

why are they playing echo tracer

into tracer sj

[sick narwhal]

[full lichen]

Wub has seemed competent on Sojourn

[lofty shale]

you know im surprised that we haven't had any Adderall controversies in owl yet, ark was quoted as having said that you were putting yourself at a disadvantage if you didn't use it

[sick narwhal]

Master Fister

[willow drum]

everyone is using it prob

PARIS GETTING THEIR 1ST WIN TDYA

WOOH

[last nimbus]

im not impressed by zode rn

[split flume]

daan got like 5 enviro kills

[twin bloom]

Can't believe people.put NY above ATL

Lmfaooo

[last nimbus]

YEAHHHH PARIS LETS GO

[plush grail]

who the fuck is zode

[last nimbus]

dove*

its 12 okay

[full lichen]

I regret doing that,I was blinded by KELLAN Flora and Yaki lmao

[plush grail]

its a 4 letter namer

how do u fuck up that bad

[last nimbus]

hes just so forgettable

[willow drum]

he is not

[balmy wolf]

lol paris

[cunning patrol]

why do u capitalize his name

lol

[willow drum]

dove is one of the better na players

[cunning patrol]

KELLAN

[willow drum]

KELLAN

[cunning patrol]

dove isnt better than vision

[willow drum]

monkey 1t

[full lichen]

My autocorrect does that idk why

[twin bloom]

Kellan got hard gapped by daan

Lol

[willow drum]

agreed but he is > s9mm

[twin bloom]

Also syrus>>>both

[lofty shale]

dove is forgettable if you've like literally never payed attention to contenders

[twin bloom]

Different

Roles

[cunning patrol]

no hes still forgettable

lol

[last nimbus]

i dont watch na contenders

[balmy wolf]

damn nyxl worst team in the league lets goooo

[lofty shale]

dove has been around for a while and he's been solid

[solar trout]

Dove good
Wub good

[willow drum]

yes but still

[cunning patrol]

he is not better than vision

imo

[solar trout]

it's the rest of paris that is yikes

[full lichen]

NYXL vs Titans is the toilet bowl of 2022

[cunning patrol]

vision is the best aimer

in na

[twin bloom]

Trust syrus king

[plush grail]

not at all

[twin bloom]

Will be a dps line

To rival

[balmy wolf]

titans stomp

[twin bloom]

Heesang

And whoever

[last nimbus]

literally whole of nyxl got diffed

[twin bloom]

He plays with

[cunning patrol]

mn3

oh rn

its probe

lol

[full lichen]

Except for Kaan, Kaan is a decent flex support

[twin bloom]

Oh yeah probe

[split flume]

oh my god coluge https://twitter.com/CucumberColuge/status/1538645598714245120

Coluge (@CucumberColuge)

Alright I have too #007 #JamesBond

Twitter · Jun 19, 2022, 10:11 PM

[full lichen]

Lmao

[idle ore]

ouch

[lofty shale]

honestly wish they would add AA for controllers on pc because i think that'd be funny, i enjoy watching apex players complain about controllers

[split flume]

dont apex players complain about everything

[lofty shale]

yea

[frosty patrol]

wait triste

[full lichen]

I play Apex on switch so I understand lmao

[lofty shale]

but so do overwatch players

[frosty patrol]

another episode of owl trivia

this one is a much easier 5 support quiz

boston 2018

name the 5 supports

[lofty shale]

overwatch player try not to complain challenge

[plush grail]

kazper

[plush grail]

kellex, swimmer

[frosty patrol]

swimmer is 2020

[ivory stag]

they need to play hanamura

[plush grail]

kellex is 1 right

[frosty patrol]

yes

kellex 1/5

[earnest leaf]

Kellex snow avast

[lofty shale]

dude speaking of which have you fucking seen the overwatch comment sections on instagram, they're so fucking bad just full of people complaining

[earnest leaf]

Are 3 I think

[frosty patrol]

kellex snow avast 3/5

[split flume]

neko

[plush grail]

rain fire

one of those 2

[frosty patrol]

kellex snow avast neko 4/5

[split flume]

aimgod

[frosty patrol]

rain is mayhem 2019/valiant 2020

[worn falcon]

Dis eu?

[full lichen]

I don't pay attention to Boston, the only players that I know were on Boston years ago are Striker which he came back, Punk who is still on, Myunbong, and Colorhex

[frosty patrol]

fire is atlanta and vancouver

[frosty patrol]

correct

[frosty patrol]

lol

[split flume]

god im so good

[frosty patrol]

you cannot name even starting players?

[plush grail]

@split flume 0 bitches

[frosty patrol]

name everyone in owl currently

[lofty shale]

you don't pay attention to the overwatch league bro just say it

[split flume]

i knew watching avast's stream all the time would pay off

[frosty patrol]

that's the easiest question I've given you

nobody help him

[plush grail]

the fuck is up with the logo

[upper kettle]

Anyone have any owl pick ‘em leaderboards I wanna join and be #1

[full lichen]

I pay attention to OWL lmao just not teams I don't really like

[frosty patrol]

so you don't pay attention to owl

and your takes are invalid

[full lichen]

Yeah I do

[frosty patrol]

?

[lofty shale]

then why the fuck are you trying to say hydron is better than players you don't even pay attention to

[frosty patrol]

cannot name starting players

from previous years

like neko kellex is so easy

for 2018 boston

[full lichen]

I wasn't watching in 2018 lmao

[frosty patrol]

neither was I

I started watching at all in late 2019

[lofty shale]

you should not being making statements that you have zero ability to back up

[frosty patrol]

started paying attention in season 4

[split flume]

yeah i dont think 2018 rosters are all that relevant for discussion of 2022 games and teams

[frosty patrol]

it's a good metric to gauge how much they know (how much their takes matter)

[plush grail]

what the fuck is up with these kaan ults

[split flume]

not really

[earnest leaf]

Some mfs from 2018 are whomegaluls though

[split flume]

so many players from 2018 aren't in the league anymore

[errant hornet]

well at this point yeah ig lol

[frosty patrol]

if he couldn't name snow avast aimgod hyeonu or fahzix

[lofty shale]

idk i think you're just messing with him at this point he's already proven his takes don't matter

[frosty patrol]

it'd be fine

[errant hornet]

but the owl from 2018 is basically gone at this point

a lot of the players a are either washed/ left ow

[frosty patrol]

but kellex neko ark

[full lichen]

I can name a few just not the teams you've asked me lmao

[frosty patrol]

are freebies

[split flume]

neko hasn't been a player since like 2019

[errant hornet]

I mean not much reason to play if you aren't in owl

tbf

[lofty shale]

who played tank for london in 2018

[errant hornet]

game is kinda

uh

not great

[frosty patrol]

triste

what's your favorite team

[errant hornet]

and owl is from what I have heard kinda a shit hole rn for a lot of people lol

[full lichen]

Idk who played tank but I do know Birdring was on 2018 london

[lofty shale]

wow man you have really demonstrated your knowledge!

who doesn't know that

[full lichen]

Mayhem

[split flume]

@plush grail toilet bowl toilet bowl

[vagrant jacinth]

Damn

[last nimbus]

thank god they win point a

[frosty patrol]

name every mayhem player ever

[plush grail]

smd

[frosty patrol]

I will cut you some slack actually

[split flume]

paris fan

[frosty patrol]

you don't have to do s1

[full lichen]

I don't know all of them but I can name quite a few

[frosty patrol]

every mayhem player s2-present

[split flume]

mike the gatekeeping is cringe

tbh

[errant hornet]

ok lol he doesn't have to be a giga virgin lol

[plush grail]

you have been in this shitty server for 5 years

[frosty patrol]

ok how about just s3

that's easy

[errant hornet]

"hey you like food"

name all the foods

[split flume]

six actually

[errant hornet]

lol

[frosty patrol]

he was making sweeping takes about owl

it's fair to scrutinize his knowledge

[lofty shale]

he's not gatekeeping triste is trying to say he's a knowledgeable owl fan

[errant hornet]

he can have a take if he doesn't know all the fucking old ass players

lol

idk

[split flume]

how is being able to name every player to ever play on a team is relevant to statements about the league right now

ong

[frosty patrol]

it's his favorite team

[lofty shale]

triste is saying he pays attention to owl when he literally said he doesn't pay attention to teams he doesn't like

[frosty patrol]

if he can't name players on his favorite team

he cannot have knowledge

[last nimbus]

LETSGOO ZODE

[frosty patrol]

about other teams

[last nimbus]

DOVE

FUCK

[frosty patrol]

it's impossible

[vagrant jacinth]

Should be able to name 2018 london tanks tho fr

[errant hornet]

ok and? He can pay attention to some teams he likes but not give a fuck about others

is that that crazy?

lol

[plush grail]

hadi

[split flume]

zode

[vagrant jacinth]

The Gigachad

[errant hornet]

and even then there are plenty of takes about owl to have that don't involve knowing a team

[lofty shale]

well he shouldn't be trying to put on a façade of being knowledgeable when he can't even be bothered to pay attention to the league as a whole lmao

[vagrant jacinth]

Is it time for paris dub

[errant hornet]

like knowing how bad the 30 day contracts are

[plush grail]

hadi timetravelled and played on 2018 london

[full lichen]

Slime, Yaki, Gangnamjin, Mirror, Hydron, KariV, Adam, Anamo, SirMajed, Checkmate, XZI, SOMEONE, OGE, BQB, Sayaplayer, Logix, Gargoyle,

[split flume]

the only tank player that's relevant is mg

[viscid bane]

did paris change their logo?

[last nimbus]

i have a theory, hadi was playing on super account and super on hadi's and now "super" has retired and hadi started playing on his main

[lofty shale]

also he tried to say that hydron is a top 3 rookie when again, he literally said he doesn't even pay attention to most of the league

[viscid bane]

the chicken is now yellow, 2 days ago it was red

[last nimbus]

thats why hes suddenly just gigachad goated gamer

[errant hornet]

he can be knowledgeable about certain aspects but not others lol. You can know a certain esport is a shithole to play in because of mismanagement without knowing all the teams and players lol

not defending his take

not saying its good

but idk if this is the ground to fight on

[frosty patrol]

we're not attacking that take

[full lichen]

I'm allowed to have my opinion lol just because you don't like it doesn't mean you have to slam me about it

[brave zenith]

cant believe i had the nyxl winning over paris.

[frosty patrol]

his take that hydron is the best sojourn

[last nimbus]

nag bruh dps are getting diffed

hard

[frosty patrol]

and that hydron is a roty runner-up

[devout path]

Alphayi

[lofty shale]

the point is that it's not a well informed opinion whatsoever

[plush grail]

or the gigachad meme is affecting his mental making him play better and making his opponents make mistakes because they're scared they're gonna be made fun of

[devout path]

Alpha fucking yi

[full lichen]

My opinion is my opinion

[last nimbus]

lmao

[frosty patrol]

the owl sucks b/c mismanagement take is fine

I agree partially

[plush grail]

why did alpha fuck yi???

[vagrant jacinth]

The hadi effect

[devout path]

Alphayi is the roty

[lofty shale]

an opinion still should have good information behind it before it is formed

[errant hornet]

I mean aI agree its dumb but just attack the point don't just attack him on "NaME alL thE PlAYeRs"

[last nimbus]

hes just extremely agressive

[errant hornet]

like who cares lol

[vagrant jacinth]

Confidence through the roof

[errant hornet]

I can't name half the people from s1 of owl

[devout path]

I can only name the iconic players

[errant hornet]

and I would say I am like somewhat knowledgable of the current owl lol

[split flume]

mikeyy https://twitter.com/mikeyy_ow/status/1538648643883761664

mikeyy (@mikeyy_ow)

@FalseOw

Twitter · Jun 19, 2022, 10:23 PM

[frosty patrol]

he was not backing down on the hydron stuff

[devout path]

Like poko and fragi

[last nimbus]

like u expect london to be passive cause they arent great but its the other way around

[frosty patrol]

had to dip into other stuff

[full lichen]

Thank you

[errant hornet]

then fine let him have a shit op

who cares

lol

don't bring up irrelevant shit to the op

esp if he is talking about current owl

[devout path]

LMAO

[errant hornet]

I don't know how previous seasons would matter

at all

lol

[lofty shale]

letting people have shit opinions is a dumbass thing to do when that person could have a better opinion that is backed up by information, it's dumb to let people be dumb

[last nimbus]

i just imagine nyxl is shock and paris is winning

[vagrant jacinth]

Can we stop arguing and watch the toilet bowl

[devout path]

Proper is trying to challenge alphayi for roty not the other way around

[errant hornet]

its fine to let people be dumb lol, cause then you don't come across as a fucking gatekeeping ahole lol

[split flume]

you're in a discord chatroom for a tier 2 esport not an academic debate parlor

[lofty shale]

nah toilet bowl was vancouver v nyxl earlier this season

[errant hornet]

this isn't something academic or anything that would effect the real world

so why care

[full lichen]

So it's YOUR job to fix MY opinion?

[errant hornet]

lol

[lofty shale]

yea

[full lichen]

That's exactly what I said lmao

[split flume]

anyway

mikeyy's been in the league for two weeks and dropped two of the best tweets of the year so far

[full lichen]

He's just better

[split flume]

where is yaki going

what is he cooking

[errant hornet]

hopefully to a barber

[full lichen]

After this year he's probably going into retirement

[devout path]

???

[errant hornet]

how tf would you know that lol

weird ass take

lol

[lofty shale]

doesn't mean im gonna change my tendency to want to try to help people not be dumb

[errant hornet]

its owl...

[lofty shale]

dont care

[split flume]

calling someone a dumbass over and over again does not help people not be dumb lmfao

💀

[errant hornet]

we aren't arguing the next taxation plan or some shit lol

what

[devout path]

Who cares about you

[ivory stag]

so nice for overwatch league to allow to random teams of top 500 players to play today

[full lichen]

I mean look at what he's done, ever since 2020 he's been going down little by little and now he's just not doing it for NYXL

[lofty shale]

nobody in this room

clearly

[devout path]

Exactly

[lofty shale]

but we're strangers

[errant hornet]

ig but doesn't mean he'd retire

[lofty shale]

and im gonna keep spewing my bullshit whether you like it or not

[willow drum]

it is the other way around

lmao

[errant hornet]

plenty of bad players have stayed many years in a row

idk

[devout path]

No

[full lichen]

The reason I say he's gonna retire is because I don't think anyone is gonna sign him

[willow drum]

spark got last place in their tourney

[errant hornet]

its possible but I wouldn't bet on it

[errant hornet]

I mean its OWL

[devout path]

Alphayi is the goat

[willow drum]

copium if u think alphayi > proper

[willow drum]

was never better than proper in owl

[full lichen]

Tbf Sasin did get hired

[willow drum]

or in contendors

[split flume]

wub

what was he cooking

[errant hornet]

'tier 1' owl has teams like valiant, etc.

[devout path]

Simply incorrect

[errant hornet]

any team will hire anything cheap

[willow drum]

i am not incorrect

alphayi not even top 5

fdps

at the moment

lmaooo

[devout path]

???

[errant hornet]

cause the league is such a failure economically rn a lot of teams are just doing everything they can to not spend money on players

and just try and get out when they can

or the orgs that own the teams that is

[lofty shale]

owl is like a tier 3 esport lmao

[willow drum]

Kevster Proper Pelican Fleta HeeSang all shit on Alphayi

[split flume]

proper kevster zest profit alphayi

[full lichen]

Speaking of ROTY who's gonna be MVP? I say Profit

[lofty shale]

nyxl literally have one of their coaches registered as a player

[split flume]

heesang isnt in the league

[errant hornet]

I honestly wouldn't hate if the owl went away for a bit

so that the esport scene could grow organically again

[willow drum]

does not matter

[split flume]

yes it does

[willow drum]

still better than betayi

lmaoo

[errant hornet]

instead of this weird franchise shit

lol

[split flume]

the discussion is around owl players 💀

[willow drum]

he is still a fdps player

[willow drum]

heesang is better than most owl players

[frosty patrol]

disagree

tier 3 esports are like

[errant hornet]

or at least just scrap everything and copy a better league

[frosty patrol]

smash ultimate

[full lichen]

Ngl I think Checkmate is just ever so slightly better than Alphayi

[lofty shale]

https://excelsior.overwatchleague.com/en-us/roster

[cunning patrol]

Owl is terrible

[willow drum]

invalid opinion

[frosty patrol]

owl is below stuff like valorant

[devout path]

???

[frosty patrol]

but not that low profile

[lofty shale]

yea bro kuki my favorite nyxl player

fucking hell

[frosty patrol]

tier 3 is niche esports for popular games

[devout path]

Smash is a great esport it’s unfortunate they just don’t get Nintendo support

[full lichen]

Kuki pulling a Jake lmao

[errant hornet]

name another esport where a team signs the coach or some random mf to get the player count

[frosty patrol]

talking specifically about ultimate

[errant hornet]

lol

[split flume]

TOILET BOWL

[devout path]

Competitive smash ultimate is not niche at all

[frosty patrol]

not the melee scene

not anything else

[errant hornet]

outside of that one valorant situation with sen

[lofty shale]

yea how is smash a niche esport

[earnest leaf]

we need a draw

[devout path]

The melee scene is literally smaller than the ultimate scene

[errant hornet]

I mean OWL is at most tier 2

[frosty patrol]

tier 2 is a dead game carried by an esport

[errant hornet]

very close to tier 3

[frosty patrol]

so melee owl

[errant hornet]

nah ow is jsut a dead game

not even carried by esport

lol

never has been

[full lichen]

I think OW2 will make OW much more popular

[errant hornet]

well

yeah

[split flume]

if ow was truly dead i wouldnt be able to find games at 3am on a weekday

[devout path]

Both smash games are bigger than owl

[errant hornet]

kinda a given

[lofty shale]

wow very ballsy take

sorry im being an asshole

ill stop

[frosty patrol]

ow's relevance being esports is proven by the fact that owl matches get more viewers than the ow twitch category combined

[errant hornet]

the best situation for owl

cause the game has great potential

obv

to be a fantastic esport

[devout path]

Owl is a tier 3 esport and both smash games are tier 2 esports

[errant hornet]

so I think they either take a while to just reorganize into a more global valorant or league like format

[full lichen]

If OW starts doing much more for content like they promised that is gonna bring a lot of people to the game

[ivory stag]

smash boring af though

[full lichen]

It all depends on the devs

[errant hornet]

or just allow it to grow organically more and then do something else

[frosty patrol]

I cannot name a single person who likes smash ultimate esports

[errant hornet]

hot take

but ok

[devout path]

That’s ur opinion

[frosty patrol]

but I've seen outlaws shirts on military bases

[devout path]

I do

[split flume]

please draw 🙏

[humble yarrow]

I was about to say nyxl look rly good but I remembered they where going against Paris

[errant hornet]

I mean Ik multiple friends on disc who like it, the one rl friend

idk

lol

[split flume]

how many viewers does ultimate get

[devout path]

I can name plenty of people who love smash ultimate esports

[frosty patrol]

I know a lot of people who like melee though

[lofty shale]

don't really pay attention to the fgc so correct me if im wrong but isn't smash like the most mainstream fighting game esport?

[devout path]

Sorta but not really

[errant hornet]

uh idrk but i'd assume so?

[devout path]

Smash has two games

So depends if you count them together or not

[frosty patrol]

if you don't count them together it's not

[errant hornet]

street fighter maybe? but idk if street fighter 5 fucked that

[lofty shale]

yea i would count melee and ultimate together

[frosty patrol]

also don't forget the brawl scene

we love metaknight meta

[lofty shale]

since a lot of ultimate players are also melee players

[devout path]

Tekken MK SFV guilty gear

[errant hornet]

everyone forgets the brawl scene

lol

[devout path]

That doesn’t exist

[devout path]

That’s just not true

[frosty patrol]

I know 2 people that like brawl esports

[devout path]

The scenes are very separate

[frosty patrol]

1 who likes ultimate esports

owned

[devout path]

The only overlap is literally hungrybox

[errant hornet]

thank god smash was a perfect organic esport where all of the top players were never ousted as pedos and sex offenders : )

[lofty shale]

leffen, and hbox are top players in both though aren't they?

[north relic]

LETS GK NYXL

[frosty patrol]

same with ow

[split flume]

smash is way worse than ow

[frosty patrol]

if you forget dreamkazper and space

[devout path]

Leffen doesn’t play ultimate anymore and Hbox isn’t a top ultimate player

[errant hornet]

I mean so far it hasn't been quite as bad as smash tbf

[lofty shale]

oh

[frosty patrol]

2 A tier players being pedos and 1 set of false pedo allegations

not bad

at all

[north relic]

Provide not A

[frosty patrol]

(mouffin being the false allegations)

WAIT FORGOT PROV1DE

2 A tier players

[errant hornet]

ik about dreamkazper, space looks super bad so far but there still is a sliver of hope for him imo, i'll personally give that like a month or two

[frosty patrol]

1 bottom 1 player

and a set of false allegations

[errant hornet]

and what happened to moufin?

or was that another fake one

or something else

[frosty patrol]

he got pedo allegation'd by the people who hate him

[errant hornet]

I barely rem that tbf

[frosty patrol]

but they were false

[split flume]

mouffin wasn't grooming kids but he was an abuser

[devout path]

Wait what happened with space

[errant hornet]

ah ok

[frosty patrol]

he is a weirdo though

he would dm khaleesi's friends for nudes while he was dating her

and manipulate them

and khaleesi

[errant hornet]

ye

[north relic]

He played league

[errant hornet]

sucks the most to see teh space one tbh

I really liked him a lot lol

I hope that it is somehow not as bad, but there is like a 40% chance at best for that

[devout path]

Ok but actually

[errant hornet]

like hes either a fucking creep or a pedo

which tbf the ladder is far worse but either way lol

[devout path]

I literally never heard of this space thing

[split flume]

go to owtmz

[dreamy cave]

NYXL can win this

[willow drum]

Coluge v Punk Stats on Eichenwalde

[dreamy cave]

[lofty shale]

glads making a big mistake not mentioning anything about space tbh

they should address it

[north relic]

Crossed out name

Fake imo

[lofty shale]

say something at least

[willow drum]

you can see the K

it is also short enoygh to be 4 letters

it was defo punk

[errant hornet]

maybe but there is prob a big investigation and they may not want to publicize it further if he turns out cleanish

ig

[willow drum]

because punk died 7 times

i counted

lmao

[errant hornet]

would be the most charitable I could be towards them

I agree morally but I can see why they wouldn't

[lofty shale]

yea but they should say that there's an investigation if there is one

[errant hornet]

but that kinda brings a lot around the issue

[devout path]

Did you count the damage

[errant hornet]

and the last thing you need is more of twitter finding an allegation

cause that shit

gets aids

quick

[errant hornet]

lol

[lofty shale]

idk im just sick of teams not addressing large issues it's really frustrating getting radio silence from orgs

[forest token]

I mean

if they were to put out a statement

[errant hornet]

I mean its an org

kinda what they do lol

[forest token]

it would literally be "we are aware of the accusations and are investigating further"

[errant hornet]

try to be as least controversial as possible

[lofty shale]

yea and it's shitty for the fans

[willow drum]

no actually

[errant hornet]

eh kinda

it depends tbh

[dreamy cave]

they can do this

[errant hornet]

like the orgs don't want to bring too much negative light towards them or a player

even if that player is in an investigation

I wish they would but I don't think they will

just the nature of these teams tbh

its only the REALLY public and heavy situations that get light by orgs

[lofty shale]

myungbung showing he's still got it

myungbong*

*myunbong

fuck

for some reason i say his name with a g in the middle of it in my head

[split flume]

paris

[vagrant jacinth]

Struggles

[lofty shale]

myungbung it how i say it in my head lmao

anyone else do that? they spell words like how they say them? like ill often misspell "surprise" as "suprise" since that's how i say it

[split flume]

nanoblade?

[supple prism]

sir prise

[gusty rampart]

NYXL fell off without JJoNak

[frosty patrol]

???

they were 14th in their last year with jjonak

[gusty rampart]

They still won games

They were never 1-6

And struggling against the worst teams in their region

[cunning patrol]

thats exactly what they were doing

[willow drum]

mf shitfest rn

[plush grail]

:_

[split flume]

yaki

[restive nexus]

There goes my perfect prediction today

[dreamy cave]

Let's fucking goooo

Its clicking for them

[restive nexus]

It's the eternals...

[dreamy cave]

Then what's your excuse for the glads match a few days ago?? Because "it's the glads"

[restive nexus]

Glads won tho...

[last nimbus]

no

FUCK PARIS

I HATE THEM

im sorry

good night

[fathom igloo]

What's wrong with paris

I hate NY more

[last nimbus]

they are losing

[dreamy cave]

Glads won even though titans made you fight for every win. But my team who's down horrendous is finally getting their act together and you dismiss it by just saying its paris. Paris should be better than this

[last nimbus]

thats whats wrong

[restive nexus]

Just saying that it doesn't mean much to beat Paris they are terrible

And aren't you an Atlanta fan not a nyxl fan?

[dreamy cave]

I can be whoever tf I want

[restive nexus]

Nobody asked who you are dimwit

[dreamy cave]

^

Okay man

[restive nexus]

The team you like defines who you are?

Kinda sad ngl

[dreamy cave]

Brother, I can be a fan of whoever tf I want to

[restive nexus]

Okay cool

What you said still made 0 sense

[willow drum]

shit org

[plush grail]

why

also dridro is a meh baptise but holy fuck

his reactions to these pulses are so fast

[restive nexus]

Think about it this way. would you say Atlanta is getting there shit back together since they beat Boston Uprising?

[restive nexus]

Chat saying he a top 3 healer XD

[dreamy cave]

Bro your still talking

Stfu

[restive nexus]

Shush you said your team is getting their shit together because they are beating a team way worse than them

[plush grail]

not top 3 healer, but im pretty sure only top tier healers can pull of these quick reactions

[still idol]

florida mayhem still better

[fathom igloo]

Y'all signed a washed myungbong and another FS who can't play till the mid of July

[restive nexus]

Yeah, he is top tier. That's why he in owl

[still idol]

[restive nexus]

Than nyxl? Miles better

[dreamy cave]

I never said my team is better than glads you fucking Moron. I said its clicking for them because they've been playing like they dont know how to use yaki and flora properly

[hot onyx]

NYXL better not ruin bread bowl 2.0

[restive nexus]

Did you read what I said???

[still idol]

yes florida mayhem is miles better

[plush grail]

can i

[twin bloom]

Titans and paris

Both win

[restive nexus]

No shit dumbass. But just because they are beating a team quite a bit worse than them doesn't mean that they are getting there shit together

[twin bloom]

Today

Also

[viscid bane]

guys do esport skins have 2 styles?

[restive nexus]

Yeah

[twin bloom]

Kellan flora myunbong

Are awful

[dreamy cave]

[viscid bane]

And it changes ingame depending on what team?

[twin bloom]

Players

Lol

[restive nexus]

Average dimwit nyxl fan.

[cunning patrol]

shut up

[dreamy cave]

[hot onyx]

Can’t say Kellan is “awful” when players like Rio Belosrea Guxue and Daan are in the same league

[viscid bane]

Proper 👍

[fathom igloo]

Myungbong is washed lmao should of kept jjonak

[twin bloom]

Flora is barely

[restive nexus]

-1000 iq

[twin bloom]

Doing better

Than wub

Rn

And that is sad

[cunning patrol]

hes shitting on wub

and dove

[hot onyx]

I think it’s just a coaching gap tbh

[still idol]

yeah home and away

[twin bloom]

No

[cunning patrol]

jmac

[restive nexus]

If y'all somehow lose to Paris imma laugh so hard

[cunning patrol]

clears kuki

imo

[twin bloom]

They are both evenly

Shit

Lol

[dreamy cave]

[twin bloom]

Paris has a better backline

[hot onyx]

Coming from the Sephy apologist

[twin bloom]

And tankline

But

[twin bloom]

Talkin

About skill

Not coaching

Ny have a way better dps

[restive nexus]

way

[cunning patrol]

imo

gnj and myun

[plush grail]

on paper nyxl should be way better, how are they this bad

[cunning patrol]

big equalizers here

[shut bobcat]

Why is he on bap

Lol

[cunning patrol]

on paper nyxl was never good

[hot onyx]

On paper NYXL should sign Babel to replace their fraudulent hitscan

[restive nexus]

I feel like Vancouver could beat both these teams

[hot onyx]

That’s because they can

[cunning patrol]

youre an idiot

[shut bobcat]

London can to

The four toilet bowl teams

[cunning patrol]

london are the best team

in owl

[restive nexus]

London's a top 5 team tho

[shut bobcat]

Did I miss smth

[cunning patrol]

Yea

[restive nexus]

Yea

[cunning patrol]

They are dominating

[shut bobcat]

Wait no

Boston Vancouver nyxl Paris

Toilet bowl teams

[restive nexus]

That's better

Or actually

[cunning patrol]

He’s right

[restive nexus]

Dallas Vancouver nyxl paris

[cunning patrol]

Real

[viscid bane]

guys for what character is a esport skin most worth?

[restive nexus]

GENJI

[hot onyx]

Dallas is not worse than Boston

Maybe Titans

[viscid bane]

Im thinking about D.Va

[restive nexus]

Maybe not actually but I still like to believe it

[shut bobcat]

Throw Shanghai in there while you’re at it

[restive nexus]

XD

[hot onyx]

Boston shit tier

[plush grail]

fusion too

[restive nexus]

Throw apac besides Seoul in there

[viscid bane]

KAI & Proper is crazy imo

Oh and hanbin is also cool

[restive nexus]

Imagine profit on tracer, kevster on soujorn, super on tank, ultraviolet and funnyastro on heals