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keen abyss
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honestly

ebon aurora
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this tourney is going to be wild

tropic herald
mortal cipher
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lol

willow tartan
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who are making these???

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and why only one player

static pond
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What the first match?

willow drum
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lets see the meta

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oooh

willow tartan
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haha as if u think ur gonna see the meta from a london game

ebon aurora
keen abyss
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london vs mayhem matchup between the two NA teams that punched up far

ivory stag
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where did mayhems tracer go?

willow drum
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kek

willow drum
willow tartan
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what the fuck did he say?

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proper okker?

willow drum
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i assmue tracer player

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(yaki)

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and he was wondering why yaki was not there

willow tartan
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how do u even know they are going to play tracer?...

ebon aurora
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Poko Pog

keen abyss
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are they running sig then

willow drum
worn falcon
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no chadi

ebon aurora
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presumably

willow drum
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just saying their tracer player isnt there

worn falcon
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insta loss first match

willow drum
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wait how good is sigma if even london r running it

cloud latch
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poko in so Ig sig is meta ๐Ÿ˜”

forest token
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which map is it

ivory stag
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mayhem gonna win?

willow tartan
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how u know poko is playing sig

cloud latch
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ilios

ebon aurora
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ah yes 1 map = meta

worn falcon
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ilios

willow tartan
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what if poko rolls out on the wrecking ball

balmy wolf
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pokooooo

forest token
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sig would be an absolute troll

balmy wolf
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what if poko absolute fucks

willow drum
mortal cipher
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poko is off tank so it seems to make sense theyd play sig

ebon aurora
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Dva has been played a lot on Ilios

willow tartan
ebon aurora
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Poko in makes sense

cloud latch
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yep

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sig

forest token
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my guess would be dva if they don't want to put poko on monkey or doom

mortal cipher
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that too

worn falcon
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but but xzi

forest token
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but

worn falcon
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:(

forest token
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dva is troll

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so

cloud latch
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actaully it's in spaw nso

forest token
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idk why they would do that

willow tartan
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xzi is in korea still isnt he?

worn falcon
last nimbus
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So uh

willow drum
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its uh sigma

worn falcon
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arrived usa

willow drum
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lmao

mortal cipher
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i think hes in florida now

ebon aurora
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sigma on ilios is odd

willow tartan
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you're lying

last nimbus
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Shock or dallas gonna win?

cloud latch
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SOJOURN????

willow drum
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it's brig zen sigma soujourn tracer

willow tartan
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if xzi was in NA he would be benching everyone on florida right now

forest token
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they have to be trolling

solar trout
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I just tuned in, what'd I miss

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Ayy soujorn

forest token
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unless they're trying to run some kind of sojourn poke comp

willow drum
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look at his twitter

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lmfao

willow tartan
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sojourn meta

ebon aurora
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ball????????

worn falcon
keen abyss
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ball catsmiley

willow tartan
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trollge

forest token
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oh wait it's well I thought it was lighthouse

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that makes more sense

willow tartan
forest token
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ball

willow tartan
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what if his plane had a turnaround

last nimbus
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These meta just flipped 180 degrees

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Wow

willow tartan
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or was shot down by a syrian missile

worn falcon
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i mean

solar trout
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But echo is still in, so all good

worn falcon
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is for florida

forest token
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what are mayhem doing

willow tartan
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do we even know where "Atlanta airport" is?

ebon aurora
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yeah I don't get the ball pick

willow drum
ebon aurora
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with bap

willow drum
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He is in America

mortal cipher
willow tartan
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do we even know where "atlanta" is?

worn falcon
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sojourn meta?

cloud latch
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if florida's comp is meta

willow drum
cloud latch
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shd might be crazy good again

willow drum
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yes we know where atlanta is

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in america

willow tartan
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???

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wrong

willow drum
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and not in the middle of the atl ocean

keen abyss
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i wish i could be more like someone sad_cowboy

mortal cipher
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its also one of the busiest airports

ebon aurora
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yep dva

willow tartan
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there's an atlanta ocean??

willow drum
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atlantic*

forest token
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oh fuck I forgot about zen's fucking 225

worn falcon
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oh wait, ball have the knockback back

split flume
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sojourn meta PauseChamp

willow drum
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nobody calls it the atlanta ocean

forest token
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yeah

willow drum
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its the atlantic*

forest token
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ball knockback increased

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can you melee a ball as he boops you as zen

willow drum
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it does not matter

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what matters is that

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fearless cant play wheel

willow tartan
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neither can coluge

worn falcon
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hanbin zarya again smh

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coluge dva/sig

forest token
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I mean I'm trying to look at the meta as a whole

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so

willow drum
worn falcon
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ew

willow drum
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however

keen abyss
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reiner ball enjoyer

forest token
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if you can't roll through a zen without getting kicked then that is an important interaction

worn falcon
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dude

willow drum
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If ball is so good then I don't get why they not playing Hadi

split flume
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double fs meta PauseChamp

worn falcon
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forgot how that sphere from sojourn is annoying as balls

willow drum
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cause Hadi has competent ball

forest token
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because they decided to play sig

willow tartan
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cause dva

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dva is popular on illios

forest token
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and they think the dva is serviceable apparently

willow drum
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who knows honestly

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first map

willow tartan
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poko bomb pausechamp

keen abyss
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zen 225 is silly i think

forest token
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zen 225 is fucking dumb

willow tartan
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shax still almost one clipped sirmajed in the last fight

candid radish
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No chadi

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Pain

forest token
worn falcon
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Give Tracer 225

willow drum
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i made a mistake didn't i predicting mayhem

worn falcon
willow drum
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by bap zen

cloud latch
willow drum
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or brig zen

earnest leaf
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ball into brig zen = afk

brave zenith
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wait what

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i jus tuned into the stream

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ppl play sojurn now

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??

willow tartan
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Give tracer 50 armor

willow drum
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yes its a different meta @brave zenith

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new patch

cloud latch
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apparently sojourn is played

forest token
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ye

worn falcon
candid radish
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Is that why hadi isn't playing

forest token
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she got a 1s decrease on her mobility

hollow bough
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first week back always seems kinda sloppy

forest token
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so she's much more flexible with her position

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it is

willow tartan
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cause it is

forest token
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esp when you're watching two bad teams

willow tartan
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teams have to adapt to new meta

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only time it isnt is when theres no major changes

candid radish
worn falcon
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sigmale

forest token
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glads is the only team that's impressed me in NA as of late

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so

willow tartan
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SUB IN XZI

willow drum
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checkmate pog

worn falcon
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revert ball grapple pls

willow drum
forest token
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omg I love how meta genji is

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isn't it so fun

worn falcon
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gengo deleted

mortal cipher
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sub him in next map

worn falcon
willow drum
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god how has tracer

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been good

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for so many metas now

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insane

forest token
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because you cannot catch her

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as long as her damage is relevant she is good

willow tartan
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tracer has been playable in so many metas

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which is good

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we want heroes to be like that

worn falcon
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and like Brig

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๐Ÿ™‚

mortal cipher
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tracer is one of the most useful heroes

forest token
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tracer is why we have brig

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so

worn falcon
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Brig 1.0

willow tartan
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Brig is why we have 2-2-2

worn falcon
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Brig is why we have 5v5

last nimbus
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Shax do be gaming

willow tartan
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yes

mortal cipher
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shax gaming indeed

willow tartan
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shax as usual doing the funny tracer

balmy wolf
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sojournnnnnnnnnnnn

brave zenith
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okay

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that makes sense

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thank god i was so tired of the monkey genji soldier

worn falcon
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they may come back

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its first day tho

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and its always sloppy af every patch goes in

willow tartan
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bro

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shax

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heavily unfortunate

forest token
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what did I just watch

worn falcon
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c9

forest token
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shax just like

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walked in and died

candid radish
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Am I just dumb or is shax just mid

forest token
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I mean

cloud latch
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hope this match is quick so we can get to the cracked teams

willow tartan
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he is mid

cloud latch
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specifically the 2nd game

willow tartan
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nobody on london spitfire is a good player

full lichen
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The Sparkr Carry is unreal

willow tartan
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either mid or below

earnest leaf
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shax is usually pretty good on tracer

forest token
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he's been getting a lot done most of the game

candid radish
forest token
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got unlucky with the camera on him when he inted

full lichen
willow tartan
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any player on london there's probably 10 players or more better than them at their position

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nobody on london can be considered good

forest token
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what is that opening from mayhem

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what

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why are you walking into a tiny hallway

worn falcon
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lack of brain

last nimbus
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Poor landon

willow tartan
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Poor london not having a real flex support

last nimbus
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london*

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Wait Marve1 got signed to valiant

willow tartan
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Yes.

mortal cipher
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yeah

last nimbus
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Cool

candid radish
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Quite dodgy I heard

willow tartan
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sasin play zarya, marvel plays main tanks + sigma (hopefully we never see dva)

worn falcon
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apparently haker isnt an official player?

forest token
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I don't like this bap

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I assume they're running it for someone's ball

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but it feels like more of a liability than an asset rn

last nimbus
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I hope marve1 will get his revenge season

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Fuck seoul

candid radish
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What are Mahyem doing

last nimbus
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Getting tank diffed

willow tartan
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EZ

willow drum
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LETS GO LONDON

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LETS GO LONDON

candid radish
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This leave the supports on their own agaisnt a DVA

willow drum
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WOOOH

mortal cipher
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yee lets go

willow tartan
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LETS FAKN GO LNDN

forest token
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I mean

candid radish
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LETS GOOOOOOO

forest token
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I did say that dva only works if they run bap or some shit

cloud latch
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GR GR

candid radish
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London Midseason madness champions

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Think thats the first time I've called it it's proper name this tourny

forest token
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what's next map

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I wish they'd show that during freeze time

last nimbus
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London is so fun to watch

earnest leaf
cunning patrol
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Why do they talk so much

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Lol

mortal cipher
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either hybrid or escort

forest token
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one-tank rosters are just foolish imo

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thank fuck shock found someone

worn falcon
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just go Valiant route

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full DPS roster

forest token
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lol

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houston s1/2

mortal cipher
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seoul are on a 1 tank

forest token
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have they been relying on smurf's doom at all

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from what I watched they mainly just wanted the zar and monkey

earnest leaf
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smurf doesn't need an OT player

mortal cipher
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i havent seen much smurf doom but i dont think it worked

worn falcon
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smurf orisa time

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smile

forest token
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I'd be very surprised if smurf doom worked

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smurf also has the advantage of already being a nutcase on monkey

candid radish
forest token
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so he can focus more on other shit

mortal cipher
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yeaj

forest token
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having like hadi/poko as your tanks means you gotta spend a bit more time making sure the monkey is clean if you wanna run it

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or, say, coluge

worn falcon
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coluge was OT and decently played winton

forest token
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omg guys merch drop so you can announce to the world how much of a masochistic loser you are irl

worn falcon
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except when he shouldnt dive

forest token
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I mean

forest token
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if you want to prep a rush and fix up coluge's monkey

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it's just so much to work on at once

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eich hmm

candid radish
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WHY IS HADI NOT PLAYING ๐Ÿ˜ญ

forest token
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they might be committing to the brig/zen backline

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yeah

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lucio's self-healing got shredded this patch

candid radish
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I wanna see the rein rush tho

forest token
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so he's not as free as he was last patch

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if you're not playing lucio you're not playing rush

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I really don't like this bap

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like

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who is he lamping

worn falcon
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so youre playing walk

forest token
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cuyo

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no

candid radish
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Speed walk

ebon aurora
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I really don't get this ball pick

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with a bap

forest token
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lol ball's half hp and cut off from rupal already anyway

ebon aurora
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surely if you're going to ball you need a brig

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not like it won a championship or something

forest token
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they might want to use the bap as a hitscan as well maybe

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idk

earnest leaf
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surely florida dropping their OT player as soon as OTs become meta was a good idea

forest token
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wait did they

full lichen
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Mayhem need to play Adam, oh wait, THEY DROPPED HIM THE FUCKING DUMBASSES

ebon aurora
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did you see London's tweet

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it was savage

forest token
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LOL

earnest leaf
ebon aurora
forest token
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I saw that there was drama but didn't care

candid radish
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I know he died but I retract what I said about shax

forest token
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lel

worn falcon
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They dropped adam because he wasnt playing

ivory stag
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typical ball player feeds KEK

forest token
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omg lamp did so much

worn falcon
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adam played like 1 map

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or 2

earnest leaf
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he never played

ebon aurora
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Spitfire just destroyed Mayhem on SM

north relic
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why is the logo so low definition

forest token
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sig/bap makes more sense

ebon aurora
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idk

plush grail
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does london 3-0 mayhem lmao

ebon aurora
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but that is savage

forest token
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poggers bap buff

cloud latch
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so um

worn falcon
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nice field

forest token
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instantly full hp

cloud latch
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is kariv that bad?

worn falcon
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kariv coaching now

ebon aurora
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welp my pred is looking terrible

candid radish
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Dropped adam after not playing him and informed him he was being dropped in the tweet telling them xzi had joind the team in florida

mortal cipher
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yezh

ebon aurora
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great start ๐Ÿ˜ญ

willow drum
candid radish
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I think i put it for 3-2 spitfire

full lichen
restive nexus
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Is this the first match?

ebon aurora
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yes

worn falcon
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yes

full lichen
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Yes

forest token
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why are you copying that high

worn falcon
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second map tho

willow drum
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full hold

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fuck lmao

forest token
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what

ivory stag
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lol

willow drum
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london going to sweep

candid radish
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I did it like 20 mins ago I forgot

worn falcon
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bruh

cloud latch
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um

north relic
worn falcon
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Mayhem

candid radish
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Spitfire are too good

forest token
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he fucking copies out of range of his m1s

restive nexus
worn falcon
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the fuck you doing

forest token
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can't hit his rock followup

candid radish
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Also busan is a hybrid

forest token
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can't shield or eat for his team at all

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like

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what

ebon aurora
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the devs confirmed afterwards this was a placeholder

cloud latch
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oh

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but

ebon aurora
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but they are planning to "revisit" hanamura

cloud latch
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hanamura is still there ?

worn falcon
earnest leaf
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all the times are the same too

worn falcon
ebon aurora
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^

earnest leaf
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and the dates are in the future

forest token
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how the fuck does sparkr just walk up like that

ebon aurora
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surely Hanamura has to be in PvE

forest token
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what

ebon aurora
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it's so beautiful

forest token
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we need a replay system

full lichen
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Revisit temple of Anubis lmao

forest token
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I need to see how fucking troll this game is

cloud latch
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so why do they talk about game repoirt but don't actually show it

worn falcon
forest token
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did they have a live in-game viewer

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I don't remember one

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but I also didn't look

worn falcon
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they dont, they had in the previous

earnest leaf
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on twitch they did

forest token
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ohhh right

north relic
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why did shax jumpshot and then just spaz out

earnest leaf
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you could watch player povs at least

forest token
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but that was scuffed as fuck

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literally just a bunch of player and static povs

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not actual in-game viewer like cs has

worn falcon
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there was, you just nstalled the owl game from launcher and watched your favourte player

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that was like s3?

full lichen
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I'm gonna say it right fucking now Checkmate>Yaki

earnest leaf
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no

forest token
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I think checkmate was the genji I was pleasantly surprised by

earnest leaf
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but checkmate very good this year

full lichen
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I was messing around lmao

ebon aurora
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goddamn Hydron

north relic
last nimbus
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Wtf

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Hydron

full lichen
cloud latch
worn falcon
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i feel that sojourn sphere is too big

north relic
keen abyss
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shax boomed singlehandedly by hydron

full lichen
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I honestly think Checkmate=Yaki

full lichen
north relic
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ok noted

full lichen
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I am Bowol the Mayhem superfan

last nimbus
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wtf

earnest leaf
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hydron is taking shax's lunch money

last nimbus
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shax is getting dominated

balmy wolf
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for real

north relic
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ok guys

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do you think eichenwalde is a little defense sided

earnest leaf
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landon diff

cloud latch
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florida need to get someone on sig

balmy wolf
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ez

candid radish
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LETS GOOOO

split flume
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florida OMEGALUL

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deserved

solar trout
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preds dead already
new record

north relic
candid radish
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Spitfire sweep

full lichen
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XZI>Checkmate

cloud latch
last nimbus
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reverse sweep PogChimp

ebon aurora
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wonder if this is what Fuel play

split flume
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this is payback for fucking adam over

forest token
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watch fuel still play zar

ebon aurora
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Sparkle Tracer, Edison/Guriyo Soujorn?

full lichen
ebon aurora
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Brig Zen so far still seems viable

mortal cipher
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justice is erved

forest token
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I mean

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yeah

ebon aurora
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so that's fine for Chiyo Fielder

forest token
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discord is always waiting to be viable

sullen berry
cloud latch
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praying dallas sweeps

mortal cipher
ebon aurora
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but I still think until proven Fuel are the better team

last nimbus
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they have

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fearless

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and hanbin

cloud latch
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unless florida just suck and bap zen is actually the pick

forest token
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I have not seen them actually run fearless well yet this season

split flume
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midless

last nimbus
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they have literally anything they need

last nimbus
forest token
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yeah

last nimbus
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cause hanbin zarya mvp

forest token
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and those 20 minutes were awful

cloud latch
forest token
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then they just stopped trying

tawdry hamlet
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Already roasting them for dropping Adam let's go gifBarbScream

split flume
last nimbus
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against houston when the whole team was shitting the bed

mortal cipher
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they just havent got a good comp yet for fearless

cloud latch
last nimbus
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its physically not possible for fearless to drop down 2 tiers in 1 offseason

forest token
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any time I've seen fearless in I have not been impressed

ebon aurora
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I can see Fuel maybe going Rush

forest token
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sparkle has also looked shaky on the genji as well

mortal cipher
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fearless has struggled yeah

last nimbus
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i think they're continuing with zarya

forest token
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god I hope not

ebon aurora
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I think Fearless has actually been playing well

forest token
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at least he can eat zen rightclicks for charge

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but like man

ebon aurora
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has Fearless played any maps where Guriyo hasn't been in

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apart from the first game against Outlaws

mortal cipher
mortal cipher
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first games are usually weird

last nimbus
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guriyo plays widow fearless plays monkey

forest token
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his synchronization with the rest of the fuel has just been not great

ivory stag
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so sojorn just replace soldier then lol

ebon aurora
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yeah my point is Guriyo hasn't been great so far so even if Fearless has been doing well individually (which I think he has, the mechanics are still clearly there), his winrate is skewed by playing with Guriyo

full lichen
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No XZI???

forest token
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plan > mechanics

cloud latch
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imagine if dallas kept xzi

forest token
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if you aren't able to sync up with your team then gg

candid radish
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Dropped adam for nothing

mortal cipher
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rip

last nimbus
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this is so cursed

forest token
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poko doing a bit of trolling

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oh they're going for a one-off hook

candid radish
forest token
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there we go

plush grail
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has that early hog hook ever worked

ebon aurora
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yes

last nimbus
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Once

plush grail
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ur joking

ebon aurora
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nope

candid radish
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Shock i think

ebon aurora
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think it was like the first time it was done

earnest leaf
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shock on hanamura vs glads

candid radish
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I don't remember tbh

plush grail
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did a player really have such bad positioning

ebon aurora
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so since then teams have clocked onto it

forest token
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hydron is owning

earnest leaf
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in the countdown cup final qualifers

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hooked space

plush grail
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space played a map??

candid radish
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Happened this year as well didn't it

tawdry hamlet
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Hydron hard carrying

forest token
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the bap probably works better on 1st since they can bunker down in server to get value of lamp and shift

keen abyss
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tracer brig/bap zen

last nimbus
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happy szn with sojourn

keen abyss
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guess we're back to ow1

plush grail
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also isn't adam a sigma player

forest token
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if they lose 1st and keep the bap they are straight trolling

last nimbus
#

omg hydron is so chad

willow drum
#

hydron has killed shax

#

so much now

forest token
#

hydron is fucking

last nimbus
#

They better give landon mvp if london wins

worn falcon
#

why a Lucio?

full lichen
#

Reverse sweep

forest token
#

recontest ig

ebon aurora
#

I swear we see so much point A hold on Gib

forest token
#

as it turns out

plush grail
#

because its a dumb map

forest token
#

if you run two characters that make it impossible to walk through hallways

#

on a map where attackers have to run through hallways

#

it's kinda good

ebon aurora
#

Gib is one of my favourite maps as it's so good for Winston and double bubble stuff

forest token
#

the fact that monkey isn't being run rn is a very worrying sign

#

genji too

plush grail
#

is monkey just that bad or sig that bad

#

it's crazy how like 0 mobility heroes are being played on gibraltar

forest token
#

most likely it means that zen is so busted it's impossible to overcome

brave zenith
#

so what all changed in the patch

forest token
#

so you instead play around your zen

#

and ofc the sojourn slow is nasty

cloud latch
#

UH OH

#

SOMEONE WENT SIG

last nimbus
#

There goes the sweep

#

And the reverse sweep is in sight

fiery hill
#

That felt slow

mortal cipher
#

3-2 still in there

fiery hill
#

Where is Hadi rush

forest token
#

lol

fiery hill
#

This felt slower than the most of other OWL games so far

worn falcon
#

brickedup

keen abyss
#

shu skewed gonna be strong in this meta

worn falcon
#

i mean the mid-low team

keen abyss
#

worried about whether pati will be able to pick up sojourn

last nimbus
forest token
#

well it is mirror poke

worthy drum
#

Double Flex support seams really strong

forest token
#

so

worn falcon
#

if you watch top team matches is other thing

last nimbus
#

From monkey lucio to sig brig

#

Ofcourse it feels slow

forest token
#

sig/zen

worn falcon
#

So viol2t Zen or Bap?

forest token
#

mayhem are preferring the bap over the brig

last nimbus
#

Viol2t brig

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Finn zen

#

Prob

split flume
#

god i cant wait to see the double fs

#

and even if they play brig viol2t has a sick brig

worn falcon
#

viol2t back to brig jail

last nimbus
#

Wasn't viol2t brig top3 last season

worn falcon
#

smile

split flume
brave zenith
#

praying for the reverse sweep

balmy wolf
#

gross

#

london ftw

gloomy vector
#

funny thing is i think i wouldve voted 3-2 london for the meme

static pond
#

Wait ow2 getting rid of loot boxes?

gloomy vector
#

0-6\

brave zenith
gloomy vector
#

OMEGALUL

brave zenith
#

it's going in the direction that'll help it succeed as a game

wide minnow
#

did any here receive tokens?

earnest leaf
vagrant jacinth
#

Lol

#

I want this dub so bad

brave zenith
#

idk why

vagrant jacinth
#

Sometimes take a while to show up

full lichen
#

Backbone be looking at the past and future at the same time because he can't look a the present lmao

plush grail
#

why

willow drum
#

in poke u wiat for picks

solar trout
#

Sombra is just the worst

full lichen
willow drum
#

?

plush grail
#

rein vs sojourn looks like a throw pick tbh

brave zenith
#

hydron seems good on sojurn

solar trout
#

bye admiral

brave zenith
#

????

plush grail
#

hadi pls switch

#

ur just giving hydron free kills

brave zenith
#

what did hadi try to shatter

plush grail
#

shield legit does the exact opposite of helping ur team

gloomy vector
#

Ball

brave zenith
#

rein is not the move vs that comp

#

at all

gloomy vector
#

i mean its hadi

#

hes a rein only tank

plush grail
#

ur playing vs sojourn and echo, sojourn farms for beam and echo shreds shield

solar trout
#

checkmate ._.

last nimbus
#

yep

errant hornet
#

I akready miss ana winston lol

last nimbus
#

This it what happens when u bring otps on your team

errant hornet
#

feelsbad

brave zenith
#

like cmon

#

theres no way hadi doesnt have a tiny bit of experience with literally any other tank

#

right

errant hornet
#

ik zen and bap were weak asf but man I don't wanna go back to ow1 meta v2

plush grail
#

i feel like london wasnt aware that sojourn can farm off rein shield lmao

last nimbus
#

winston and ball

#

but not as good as his rein

#

from chadi to chadmate

errant hornet
#

idk why they go soldier tbh hes not nearly as strong

plush grail
#

hadi ball is okay

errant hornet
#

feels like they don't do enoguh damage sometimes

brave zenith
#

d

#

he jus needs something else

keen abyss
#

someone cz_very_sad

plush grail
#

this is a coaching diff

#

who the fuck swaps in your rein 1 trick against the florida comp

brave zenith
#

they win 2, then lose a single round and decide to swap

#

how does that make any sense

gloomy vector
#

yeah i think its more that the other might not want to play around a ball/ cant

plush grail
#

if u dont wanna play around ball

#

ur legit throwing

gloomy vector
#

i mean that just how it seems

#

i doubt its really anything else

earnest leaf
#

my 3-2 pred for florida is looking good

ivory stag
#

uh oh

vagrant jacinth
#

No no no

brave zenith
#

like

#

swap hadi out again bro

plush grail
#

if they swap hadi they win

errant hornet
#

idk the meta so far isn't my fav to watch

brave zenith
#

hes so useless in this meta

errant hornet
#

its fine but idk

plush grail
#

if they keep in hadi vs a sojourn they throw

brave zenith
errant hornet
#

I like watching winton and zarya more tbh

brave zenith
#

but

#

it'll prob change up

errant hornet
#

prob yeah

plush grail
#

i like the meta when its sojourn vs sojourn

willow drum
#

reverse sweep time

errant hornet
#

but mainly because like

brave zenith
#

hadi needs the meta to be reversed back

errant hornet
#

we just came out of a year and a half spam meta in ow1

#

I really am not excited to watch just hte ow2 version of that lol

last nimbus
#

too late now

errant hornet
#

yeah ig

last nimbus
#

london pooped their pants

#

indecisive much

gloomy vector
#

oasis isnt the worst for rein but still

brave zenith
#

if they swap hadi again

#

they can compete

errant hornet
#

I think if it was a better rein meta could be more fun to watch ngl

#

rein v rein is fun

gloomy vector
#

rein meta would be boring imo in 5v5

willow drum
#

seems like there is no monkey or rein being played

errant hornet
#

I mean compared to sigma / ball zen/brig/ bap

#

aka

gloomy vector
#

but i guess that depends on who in dps would be meta

willow drum
#

what are ur thoughts on shock v dallas

errant hornet
#

basically the same meta as ow1 but 5v5

#

lol

willow drum
#

if rein and monke have been useless

#

and/or not seen

ebon aurora
#

Hanbin Sigma though

#

or Dva

errant hornet
#

honestly shock should look better

gloomy vector
#

shock vs dallas is a coinflip

errant hornet
#

cause of double flex supp

gloomy vector
#

i have fuel winning tho

ebon aurora
#

yeah I have Fuel 3-2

last nimbus
#

i just want coluge to

ebon aurora
#

but wouldn't surprise me if Shock win

errant hornet
#

and coluge was an ot player in the past so maybe his sigma is diff tho

#

idk

#

we'll see

willow drum
#

that's for sure

gloomy vector
#

yeah i think it could go either way but its a 3-2

last nimbus
#

coluge sig is op

#

like at least high a tier

willow drum
#

You know who's HS isnt top 5?

#

gurijoke

errant hornet
#

hope they revert either the zen extra 25 hp or that ridiculous bap heal change

#

cause its gonna kill dive lol

last nimbus
#

I BELIEVE IN THE DOVE SIGNING

#

30D CONTRACTS ARE AWESOME

errant hornet
#

hadi stays in?

ebon aurora
#

oasis

errant hornet
#

I feel like the poko sigma worked better ngl

ebon aurora
#

makes sense

errant hornet
#

ah oasis

#

true

#

but I feel like 2 of the maps on oasis outside of university are prob better for ball no?

ebon aurora
#

surely Sparkr could've mirrored the soujorn and still played rush?

vagrant jacinth
#

Fuck it hadi still in

last nimbus
#

idk rein is pretty matched on every map of oasis

gloomy vector
#

ngl i think Dva would be the worst meta in 5v5 i rather see ball/monkey

brave zenith
#

the only issue w shock and this meta

#

is they jus signed a rein main

errant hornet
#

uh I think they wanted something to possible contest the echo?

tropic herald
errant hornet
brave zenith
#

at least i think hes a rein main

willow drum
errant hornet
#

I doubt he would immediatly play either way

willow drum
#

he is a ball main

last nimbus
#

london is like reverse dallas

willow drum
#

that can play horse and uh

#

rein

errant hornet
#

I mean

brave zenith
errant hornet
#

who can't play horse lol

#

its horse

#

idk about ow2 but at least in ow1

brave zenith
#

tbh i didnt really look into it i jus saw a single rein clip of him

#

and his banner on twit

#

and assumed.

errant hornet
#

kinda not that crazy

sullen berry
#

Not this horse, apparently

last nimbus
#

So uh

#

backbone best mei in the league?

sullen berry
#

Spitfire compitisiton diff

errant hornet
#

woo bap zen again...

last nimbus
#

holy shit i felt that rein swing against majed

#

hadi is so scary

errant hornet
#

chadi

last nimbus
#

LMAO hadi

errant hornet
#

holy shit

#

HOLY BASED

sullen berry
#

And he has shatter for next team fight

brave zenith
#

...

errant hornet
#

comes back, wins fight

#

LMAO

last nimbus
#

hydron mad

#

trying to 1v5

sullen berry
#

ChrisTFer lowkey backseat gaming for Hadis shatter

errant hornet
#

3

#

2

#

1

#

big shatter

sullen berry
#

Whiff

last nimbus
#

BIG SHATTER

errant hornet
#

ok whatever

brave zenith
#

i feel like rein is only good for this one map bc of how small it is

sullen berry
errant hornet
#

yeah

last nimbus
#

hadi was giving them hope, everyone

errant hornet
#

they should win this map easily

#

more worried about other maps

gloomy vector
#

if london win landon match mvp im expecting

last nimbus
#

whiffing his ult so they would rush on point 200IQ

brave zenith
#

okay this one

sullen berry
#

London has certainly upgraded, time to put them above Chorongto Defiant

brave zenith
#

mayhem should not lose

errant hornet
#

landon is usally better when blizz accidentally gives bap a team wide armor pack real quick

#

lol

gloomy vector
#

so now on ball

brave zenith
#

hadi on ball

errant hornet
#

rough map for rein

brave zenith
#

let's see

errant hornet
#

no way

twin bloom
#

Hadi is a good wheel

#

At least he was

#

In 2020

errant hornet
#

na imortality field

#

idk the bap is prob just better imo

#

maybe its just me

#

but without hte stun from brig

#

I think the big heal from bap

#

on the shift

#

is really good

#

to sustain

#

could be wrong tho idk

last nimbus
#

chadi

errant hornet
#

chadi

mortal cipher
#

chadi

earnest leaf
#

rupal's windows have been questionable

errant hornet
#

welp there goes that fight

brave zenith
#

LMFAO

errant hornet
last nimbus
errant hornet
#

everything is so fast moving

last nimbus
#

did you see that lamp

#

someone PogChimp

errant hornet
#

someone?

last nimbus
#

backbone lowkey decent on that echo

gloomy vector
#

london should win this next map with rein

errant hornet
#

mm

errant hornet
#

its easier than this map but next map is still pretty good for ball

#

its not like university

ivory stag
#

hmmm

#

close

gloomy vector
#

i think they could win it on this one

errant hornet
#

they could win but it will be rough

#

idk I think they might need to revert bap change tho imo

solar trout
#

qualifiers already on the line
first game of the quarterseason ๐Ÿ˜‚

unreal raven
#

Rein

errant hornet
#

feels like it kinda kills dive

#

hard

unreal raven
errant hornet
last nimbus
#

how many games are being played before next tournament

mortal cipher
#

i think around the same amount

ivory stag
#

what does the sojourn ball thing do?

errant hornet
#

backbone lol

last nimbus
brave zenith
#

mayhem..

ebon aurora
#

the point is midseason madness qualifying relies on the whole season so far

gloomy vector
#

yeah i think its 6

ivory stag
#

like tick over time dmg?

ebon aurora
#

not just the MM qualifiers

last nimbus
#

yes

errant hornet
#

soujourn works well with ball

#

tbh

#

jesus

earnest leaf
#

zen bapt is so shit vs rein

errant hornet
#

spitfire are playing very well this round

earnest leaf
#

they get ran at and die

gloomy vector
#

soujourn just feels too weak

errant hornet
solar trout
#

gg

earnest leaf
#

lmao gg

errant hornet
#

tbf any support comp would without lucio

split flume
#

CHADI

#

CHADI

#

CHADI

gloomy vector
#

Ohm said it wouldnt be easy

last nimbus
#

chadi be chad

unreal raven
#

LOL

mortal cipher
#

chadi

vagrant jacinth
#

Actual chad

errant hornet
#

Chadi

#

chadi diff

unreal raven
last nimbus
#

give landon mvp

willow tartan
candid radish
#

fucking chadi

balmy wolf
#

I like how hadi has just become such a fan favorite

willow drum
#

LETS GO

#

CHADI

earnest leaf
#

mf legit just fucking walked out

candid radish
#

FUCKING LETS GOOO

split flume
#

FUCK YOU FLORIDA

tidal marsh
#

CHADI SHATTER WAS FIRE

split flume
#

JUSTICE FOR ADAM

ebon aurora
errant hornet
#

chadi has complete the plat rein card

vagrant jacinth
#

Actual fucking gigachad

unreal raven
#

that was 100iq

ebon aurora
#

so people want his redemption arc

errant hornet
#

he charged off the map AND flank shattered

#

sigma male

ebon aurora
#

and who doesn't love a rein player

#

especially one as aggro as hadi

tidal marsh
#

Hadi isnt the best monkey/ball but hes not bad at them

gloomy vector
#

so funny this is what i predicted

last nimbus
#

lets not put hadi alone in the spotlight

ebon aurora
#

welp I was wrong

worthy drum
#

lol and people want rein to have 3 second shatter

tidal marsh
#

O FUCK

gloomy vector
#

then 3-2 fuel

balmy wolf
#

oh fuck I totally forgot pick ems

last nimbus
#

backbone was shitting on them too

tidal marsh
#

i forgot my preds

ebon aurora
#

I had 3-1 Florida

vagrant jacinth
#

I had 3-1 london

ebon aurora
#

Yeah Backbone's Mei is nasty

brave zenith
mortal cipher
#

i had 3-2 fla

unreal raven
#

Shocks next

vagrant jacinth
#

Hadi you beautiful bastard

last nimbus
#

did landon get mvp?

mortal cipher
#

yeah

brave zenith
#

yea

ebon aurora
#

yes

last nimbus
#

i knew it

gloomy vector
#

now if justice let me down again i just wouldnt believe it

#

3-1 justice

dreamy cave
#

Winning team always gets mvp

mortal cipher
gloomy vector
#

i know'

mortal cipher
tidal marsh
#

YO wait they played POKO

last nimbus
#

happy sojourn was believed to be the best in the league in scrimbucks

earnest leaf
gloomy vector
#

thats why i hate predicting justice to win

last nimbus
#

so im coping on that

mortal cipher
#

first 2

tidal marsh
#

man i completely forgot about OWL today

ebon aurora
#

so Fuel win confirmed

mortal cipher
#

lol

errant hornet
#

I mean what do fuel have in this meta lol

tidal marsh
#

Which maps did poko play on?

errant hornet
#

I guess hanbin zarya

mortal cipher
#

zarya ig

errant hornet
#

but guriyo........

keen abyss
#

??

ebon aurora
#

no Hanbin Sig

keen abyss
#

hanbin is a top 2 sig

errant hornet
#

hanbin sig yeah

ebon aurora
#

Brig Zen

errant hornet
#

but like the rest of the team

#

I feel like wouldn't live up this meta as well

ebon aurora
#

then Sparkle Tracer Guriyo/Edi Soujorn?

dreamy cave
#

Should I buy owl cards?

solar trout
#

So uh
Where purple/glads themed luchador reaper skin we were promised

errant hornet
#

yeah but its Guriyo...

ebon aurora
#

Fielder Chiyo Brig Zen is great

errant hornet
#

he has played

#

well

#

not great

ebon aurora
#

Hanbin is cracked

keen abyss
#

the only question mark from dallas is sojourn imo

ebon aurora
#

Sparkle Tracer is good

errant hornet
#

hanbin is cracked

tidal marsh
keen abyss
#

and ball i guess but they don't need to play ball

ebon aurora
#

yeah idk who plays Soujorn

#

maybe even Doha?

errant hornet
#

Sparkle tracer is good but vs like kevster and proper idk

last nimbus
#

Dallas isn't gonna play meta

errant hornet
#

I just feel like guriyo would not work out well

#

unless they wanna keep forcing reaper ig

last nimbus
#

They probably play rush or something

ebon aurora
#

if anyone could make zarya work it would be Fuel

errant hornet
#

but that would be weird if rush is now even stronger with bap buff

ebon aurora
#

Hanbin is just THAT good

gloomy vector
#

yeah i feel like Dallas are gonna run a echo ngl

errant hornet
dreamy cave
#

New Dallas fans, any bold statements before the match??