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explain shock below houston
I will explain
Remember Kruise?
He used to be a dps player that moved over to main support
Not exactly good at dps but decent (at his peak) when moved over to ms
That’s what I figured with Lastro
off the goop
Maybe he would realise he was shit at fs and be good at ms
yes, we have an incredibly large sample size of subpar owl gameplay
And maybe with his fs being bad was just because he had the ms mindset
you know owl players generally play in contenders before owl, right?
I had fusion mid because I saw
Basically I was taking the devil I don’t know over the devil I do know
Based Mr Fan4
and you believed that mer1t is > kilo
unfortunate sans
better not make the same mistake of having houston that high next year
I believed every player on Outlaws was equal to their Shock counterpart
Not even Apologist just not a hater
also I like fixa a bit
Danteh S9mm
Piggy Coluge
fixa in korea was so unbelievably bad
had to go to a weak region
don't care I still liked watching him in T2
not a insane fan for him
but idk it was fun watching him play lmao
uprising academy was a compilation of mid and low tier kr contenders talent
and qoq
Yeah
He gapped ChiYo https://youtu.be/Qf6GFEomiBM
qoq being the best player on the team by far
Argument could be made for Stellar
Since his tracer was pretty good even on ping
But yes I have the same take with UP

uprising acad had
itsal - mid kr mt
qoq - middling owl ot but underrated by ed
victoria- goat (joke)
stellar - decent tracer
finale - shitter
fixa - bad kr contenders ms
simple - good
Simple isn’t even a top 4 rookie fs
listen to this list of bad teams, according to r/owl
Philadelphia Fusion
london
uprising
eternal
nyxl
titans
charge
hunters
valiant
only 4-5 of these teams can be classified as bad imo
Charge Hunters Valiant 🗿
Charge would not be bottom 5 if they were in NA
if you want to include charge the reasonable list is
boston
eternal
titans
nyxl
charge
but yeah agreed
well
if rein comp is great london clown on them
tbh
If double hs dva mercy moira is great Fusion clown on the entire league
Hypothetical scenarios love them
nah
if dva ashe genji mercy ana is meta
Glads
fusion clown on the whole league
justice
Ohh yeah
????
Honestly couldn’t tell you
spark
Depends on meta
okay lets say hypothetically
If zen bap is permanently viable probably Shock
If dva or winston can be played without a reliance on hard hitscan though I give it to Fuel
we can heavily infer zen will be played
Mikeyy wouldn’t be signed if there wasn’t going to be a ball meta
they are all scrimming bap zen
oml please
no ball
i dont ever wanna see wheel again
he said doom zarya moira were meta right before the season
not very trustworthy
imo
yes but he didnt have insider
knowledge
at the time
he watched the scrims
Oh
You are not allowed to complain when you haven’t had Mano and Belosrea on your team within the span of 2 years
he got invited to scrims
by some NA teams
probably the ones with heavy western rep
probably
like atlanta paris
but if the coaches
decided to tell him they were all
doing bap zen
idk
the coaches are much more reliable
dont think they would lie
Can’t wait for Kuki sigma
Bap/Brig Zen
So 2 goats
?
they had goats in every single year
not on mt
but many goats have played for fusion
carpe eqo boombox poko sado alarm (rip) ivy heesu funnyastro fury (the first time) tobi mn3 zest
what are the matches?
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London v Mayhem
Dallas v Shock
Justice vs NYXL
Can valiant not afford marve1
London 3-1 mayhem
Justice 3-1 nyxl
Still flip flopping on shock v fuel
Marve1 good pick up for them but the players/staff shouldn't have to pay out of pocket
reasoning for all 3
because imo all 3 of them
are spicy takes
i dont think mayhem is a spicy take
i just believe in dallas more
im very low on justicce
decay is
at tje very least
they got into the tourney
imo u cant pred nyxl to sweep justice
and not predict shock to win
because the only meta nyxl can win in
is double fs
so if nyxl win it is bc of meta advantage
so if u predict nyxl
then by consistency proxy
you pred teams in 2x fs
ok i think i give justice a map
scriptwriters suggest that this is a close match
you should be down on fuel
not high on nyxl
but down on fuel
kek
ive put all my money into NYXL stock
it wont
they still need a sixth player
london: feels like hadi week
shock: doesn’t have throwing dps
justice: OpenerSZN
wrong
isnt kuki their player
dallas gonna stomp shock tomorrow
not according to the proposed meta
yea man not having a hitscan for the meta really stopped them last year
What
levy getting flash backs
sadly that's not the problem
the problem is the support line
finn viol2t on bap zen is the best 2x fs in the league
honorary mention to shu skewed
if you want to be that guy
imo the difference
between chiyo fielder
and viol2t finn
is a lot more than just #1 and #5
in 2x fs
simply because chiyo has NEVER
ever
thye
played baptiste or zen before in a real match
Kyb
It is unreasonable because those players are still infinitely worse than their ATL countperparts
Lmao
That is so true https://twitter.com/DallasFuel/status/1444059550299181058
Worse on paper yes but infinitely is a slanderous stretch
@willow drum shock fan saying max > clestyn
where
where is this absolute slander
is it match discu?
shock discord match discussion
OWLELETSGOOOOOO
Cheating in owlel?
How much of an idiot do you have to be to make that take?
|| BECKY || DAY!!!!
Yes after guessing ||Zappis|| first for the past 3 months and finally getting the answer right on the first try it is cheating my bad
we need an owl players of all time owlel
based on their first team
would make owlel harder
especially for new fans
but add another category like first season or something
Imagine new fans looking at Valiant with a Space Fate tankline
Esca made it to Seoul?
for 2 weeks
other cool facts include ed lore
like that one guy who told me majed played for up
when I asked him which western fs was on up
(the answer is sixfeet, who has canadian citizenship)
Obviously
the funny part is he thought majed was in chinese contenders
not that he didn’t get it right

Or if we go further into the lore you’ll find a loving father asking about what jersey he should buy his son
wholesome
or if we go very far into lore
you’ll find our ancestors
the first ed users
Vulture support???
What universe are we in again?
and arble is still there
i recognize too many of these people for my liking nevermind im not reading it anymore
Boomer
Empathy how long have you been in ed
Empathy is a caveman
mfw sprite doesnt join ED
since like uhhhhh hmmm 2019?
i have been in server since 2018 doe
so I have 3 years of history before you
to read up on
I was born in 2019
!!joined
You joined on May 28, 2020
I am 2019
!!joined
You joined on May 12, 2020
yeah but do you actually recognize anyone who doesnt have a colored name in 2016 ed
L ratio
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get fucked
No
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L ratio
I joined earth before you though
wrong
im a reincarnate of the first human being
i thought spectra was on o2
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KariV/Adam/MirroR
all got dropped and or changed from playing to non playing on the Florida mayhem org before playing a single map
get off his dick lmao
they should have never
Adam hasn't even played how can he be the worst OT in league
signed him in the 1st place
imho
There just seems to be a lot of problems in the decisions that org makes
For one
the mf
checkmate mt situation
OGE Boom debuff
best available
Will the legendary league skin change for each ongoing tournament? Like will we get a new one to purchase tomorrow?
oge boomage
I wish they just kept Gargoyle
should have never uh
jesus
signed oge then
it was good sometimes
diffed fearless
Holy shit Adam is really never going to get playtime in OWL huh
wait ans switch to glads?
Well with ow2 making teams a lot closer symbolically signing realistically not top or above average to give them a game in owl isn't really feasible financially

Internet Explorer Moment

no he retired
why he showing up on their rosta
just bad website
“Holy shit Closer joined the Dallas Fuel”
lol
“Holy shit fusion signed heesu alarm funnyastro and fury, this is the year”
Oh shit I need to do my pickems
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Maybe he should get better
I kinda hate that teams can just drop players like this
he’s the nyxl’s next 30-day contract western offtank
Florida is dead to me
He's cursed
Bro valiant made moves
they didn't
their players mad moves
nohill and the players literally
work 2gether
and gave cuts out of their OWN salary
to pay him
Wasn't nohill a coach of another team before LAV
TEAM CC
You’d think they’d give cuts out of their own salaries to pay a good player like Ameng or 800
Better idea
And put Haker on fs
Don't sign 5 dps players then manipulate your players to pay out of pocket for the consequences of your own decisions
based draw take
woah look at adam's recent tweet about him being dropped
"You guys didn’t have the respect to drop me in person and now your trying to hide it without an actual announcement? Cmon…."
Wonder how avast will spin this 💀
“I was not involved in this decision and I will not be commenting on the situation” seems like the type of answer from a guy working with the org
Australians can coach and cast overwatch but we just can't play the bloody thing.
Adam got dumped over text mannnn
wow florida mayhem stepping into new lows
“Hey man I’m under the risk of being released and I need a donation for performance enhancers”
real
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let's roast
reinforce's rankings
No
lol
what do you guys have as your preds for tomorrow
Mayhem win 3-1
yep I've got that
Shock win 3-2
I have Fuel 3-2
There was some guy asking us to join their server
but honestly I really don't know which way that'll go
Justice 3-2
until proven otherwise though Fuel are the better team
Sure but
if it's supposed to be poke
sigma
Can Kellan play Sigma?
yes
he played it in contendies
he got carried by heesang playing sigma tho
and had no impact
sigma widow tracer bap zen is a very popular thing
dps are decently interchangable
Proper > Edison Tracer
Viol2t/FiNN Bap Zen >> Chiyo Fielder Bap Zen
In fact Dallas might even play the inferior Brig Zen
I think Fuel will keep running Zen Brig
Then it is a huge disadvtange
Hanbin will be heavily pressured
due to the long range healing Bap provides
this is probably a gamble on being good depending on what the enemy plays
bap zen overall should be good
what? He's shown in the past he's good at it
because if the hanzo does not work
he is fucked
he can't play tracer
he can't play ashe
he can't play widow
hmm true
you think they'll run Edi Guriyo most of the time?
I think so yes
because as much as edison sucks at hard hs
it is infinently better
than a fpds on hitscan
maybe Fuel 3-2 is a bit of a hot take now that I think about it
yeah I saw
which is kinda why I'm leaning against it
they called Fuel a 1 trick team which isn't true
even if they leaned heavily on Zarya
they still showed some decent Sigma stuff on CR
imo that game
is not good representation
because that CR
was very close between SF and DF
Even if theoretically Fuel are weaker this meta it should still be a good match against Shock
I can't see it being a blowout
either way
We never know
Maybe the Bap zen
is miles ahead of brig zen
maybe zen is not even meta
again I think a lot will be map dependant
The only advantage that the brig zen has over the bap zen is imo
the health packs
so they r pretty much locked into tracer
there might still be maps where dive, rush or the zarya stuff is still viable
but we don't know the map pool so
i doubt the zarya stuff
hard to say
gibraltar
that can kill u so easily
plot twist is dallas fuel just go back to 6 man div e
I'm really curious what Fuel play
she defo could
the problem is
how much resources
does she have to use
how much poke would zarya take from the sigma and widow
before reaching the bap zen
and then how much bubbles/heals
can she use to kill the bap zen
keep in mind immortality exists
and then even if somehow she kills the FS duo
the enemy team has no resources
and tracer widow sigma just fam
he wouldnt have been screwed if he was better at the video game
His skill wasn't the reason valiant dropped him
Right about FLA tho
Should have signed vulcgoat
Someone's gigachad gaming is why he didnt play
Or iron
(Pre-Midseason Madness Tournament Power Rankings for Week 1)
These tier lists were made with the intention that the meta is Sigma Double HS Baptiste/Brig Zenyatta
Fuck i put justice too high
didn't i
no
vigilante shows up july 1
and gaps everything
he’s better than finn
isn’t it just for the midseason madness
week 1 of midseason yes
nah
kalios >= someone
happy = xzi
decay >= hydron
krillin > rupal/opener = anamo
da vig >> majed
but for week 1
yes
absolutely
coaching gap tho
eh
you have to remember this is justice
they would go 6-0 one stage then go 0-6
the next two
negligible in this meta because justice doesn’t need a tank to engage
imo poke
is not macro heavay
meta
it is more individual skill
and waiting for talent to pop off
one case where sup7eme is doing his job
(he signed amazing players)
including top 2 flex support vigi “da vig” lante
who is above
fielder finn
he only looked great in contendies on zen
because of kellan ball
and heesang tracer
he was marginally better than finn in contenders
kellan ball is ass
imo still > junbin ball
and vigilante had the best ms
fielder is a weak zen but could be 2nd sure, finn easily had the best roster
kellan cane ado is a workload
tbh this is why you praise heesang
kellan cane ado
vs junbin as the only dead weight
it’s why we’ve seen heesang be a goat and ch0r0ng be the best ms owl already
the 3 good talon players
are
generational
the world’s best
Imo I’ll be surprised to see fielder zen at all
I think fuel are just going to play something to their strengths
top 3 at their positions
then they will be mega fucked @north relic
they won’t
I’ll put da vig 3
imo
June joust they made their own meta
bap zen is too strong
Shu
Fielder
Finn
Vigi
Twilight
Lr15
respectable
And then like UV
swap da vig and finn and you’re correct
what are y'all takling about
except he doesn’t
it’s very close with a slight vigilante edge
Vigi is going be benched by krillin
I don’t understand why you’re saying that for vigilante and didn’t for finn preseason
closeted shock simp levi?
Reign simp levi
I trust crusty 9k and casores or whoever over whoever is coaching washington
supreme
never
tydolla chilhwa is close (ignore supreme)
supreme is a debuff
if we set all head coaches equal in the equation justice have pretty good coaching
?
no way supreme gets shat on by nohil rush and moon
OH YEAH FLORIDA DOIN SHIT
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No
Imagine self promoting lmao
Damn adam got fucked again
well this time it’s the Adam is bad party
last time was injustice
and like, what happens when someone (dont even) is sick or something? Chadmate returns?
proper threw up
3 times before his reverse sweep against glads
i guess
someone will have to roughen up
I would love a Chadmate part 3
Yo blizzard. You either fix experimental or i chop your balls🔪
making your players chip in with their salary to fund your crackhead roster idea is
very cringe
While also having 5 dps players
very based imo
valiant players are all loaded anyways
it speaks lengths on how united the team is
I bet they enjoy minimum contract and paying to have another player
ofc they do
their families are loaded lol
who cares
also
nohill was fully prepared to pay marvel all by himself, other coaches and players wanted to pay
they are really united but haters gonna hate ig
still cringe
valiant is extremely mismanaged, very glad that nohill is doing so much for the team
valiant does not deserve him as a coach
source?
Wait there actually letting the players use some of there money?
god gamer nohill
Let’s make this part clear.
Sources have told me that Nohill has not forced any of the other coaches or players to contribute to this.
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Ya just read it
Group decision
Do the players really like nohill that much to help him out?
he is like their dead
dad*
tbh
diya nohill innovation are all hella tight i wont be surprised
maybe don't have 5 dps players so you don't have to convince your players to chip in
to get a new tank
Nohill SZN
nohill szn to bottom two apac
banger
watching super "the finisher" delisi on control point Map 5 v Justice
ANS on mei was somehow
good
Valiant are worse than boston
In every role
Imo
And boston is bottom 4 NA
Probably bottom 2 cauae i thinl paris does better
This stage
Nyxl as well
Hopefully titans
super had a carry performance during that fight jesus
Dogman S2 was HOT
how do we know it's meta
Because I said so
i thought brawl was meta
in poke meta
assuming vigi plays
glads are only first
because we haven't seen them lose to anybody in this stage
eh
sure but at the same time
this is literally a whole new patch
drastically different meta
my thought is just
the #1 will keep being the #1 unless proven otherwise
and Glads don't play Shock in the qualifiers
so we will have to wait a long time
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why did you tag me tf
wrong person
my bad
someone tag ian
he is dying rn
i bet
@plush grail
paris will lose to titans now
agree
okay lmaoo
unironically very attractive human
imho
my guess is language barrier
glister wants a better team 💀
glister is fucking weird
first he plays for shock
then goes to paris
like mf what did u expect
(the paris fan is mad that his org is shit)
Shock has a MUCH better system for Korean players
glister and striker are so fucking DUMB
shut up
glister cant be compared to striker
lmao
Firstly the head coach is Korean
jmac is korean
imo ian
Didn’t ask
if u think that glister leaving paris
is the same as striker leaving boston
deluded paris fan imo
I will now confidently put paris at the bottom of power rankings
Striker left Boston cuz he’s a toxic loser
agree
glister left paris cause paris is a shit org
tbf we don't know really know why striker left this time
Glister left paris because they couldn’t accommodate him
Toxic loser that’s why
Like we said
just another paris L
Kinda dumb of them to think that a single Korean player would work on a European roster
They just wasted a ton of money for no wins
their players are probably all on minimum contracts
sucks paris is ran by an org that gives no fucks
who is Paris's 2nd dps?
that's budget
am I dumb or do they only have Wub
why the fuck paris would dip their best dps?
inb4 its on of their coaches
hes a filler hs player
after naga
thats NA

they are a shitty
organization
lmao
hope it is just Glister moving on
they just said he struggled to play with a Western team lol
nohill wants more dps
I don't think they will sign him but Glister to Fuel would be insane
4 dps on Dallas?
i will probably riot
dallas has 4 already
Doha, Edison, Sparkle, Guriyo
let's be honest though, Glister is a huge upgrade on Guriyo
that's the sort of hitscan player Fuel need to really contend for the title
if Guriyo doesn't level up - it's entirely possible he does
glister would be an upgrade over guriyo

Please someone pick up glister
cope + seethe
Glister is really good on hard hitscan
Pain.
they have jmac
as coach
jmac and glister are close
its not unreasonable to think it wouldwork
also glister has been on shock
and?
he wasnt bad on shock
like isnt much different than paris, unless he felt alone because no kr in
shock comm in english dont they
Naga leaves wub is signed the next
Roty canidate glister leaves
And they sign dove?..

last year yes
also what the fuck happens if one of the la valiant players leaves
do they also have to drop marve1 then
Welp guess best girl is not long for this world either since she was suppose to be the bridge between kr and english
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This team is just average
Iced robbed
Maybe drido is above
Kaan is above
Paris just exist
Paris fans in eternal pain
kaan dridro on london would make london a middle tier team easily
BUT HEY WE MOVING TO LAS VEGAS
I'm curious if Paris will change there colors
paris about becoming the team under the barrel instead bottom
honestly just nuke london and paris
make 1 big team with the 2 rosters
they could be competitive if u get to pick pieces from both teams
they should do this every season
imo
0-24
0-24
0-24
0-24
0-24
this has been brought up like 300 times now holy shit
But they dont want because muh franchise
replace paris
unironically its that why they paid for franchises
its like the Vikings still playing on the NFL and @earnest leaf still coping
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ive beat dove in a tracer 1v1 in death match put me in owl
from happiness to sadness
chads
shut up
Glister to Fuel LEAKED
just add nebraska as a team
its his 2nd best hero
🧢
@FLETASzN Sorry I thought the trend was to announce a drop and pickup in the same tweet
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what are your thoughts on this card
I do not believe she had damage boost bound to her controls
agree
I hate you can drop a player so easily now
Yeah it's not a good look for the league
Why does that sound like a real team
because it's your 2022 Paris Eternal
shut up
top tier OWL analyst

