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hot onyx
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I’m intrigued

willow drum
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explain shock below houston

hot onyx
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Remember Kruise?

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He used to be a dps player that moved over to main support

willow drum
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dantheh lucio

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believer?

hot onyx
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Not exactly good at dps but decent (at his peak) when moved over to ms

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That’s what I figured with Lastro

willow drum
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off the goop

hot onyx
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Maybe he would realise he was shit at fs and be good at ms

frosty patrol
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yes, we have an incredibly large sample size of subpar owl gameplay

hot onyx
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And maybe with his fs being bad was just because he had the ms mindset

frosty patrol
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you know owl players generally play in contenders before owl, right?

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I had fusion mid because I saw

hot onyx
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Basically I was taking the devil I don’t know over the devil I do know

frosty patrol
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no good tanks or supports

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wonderful dps talent

hot onyx
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Based Mr Fan4

willow drum
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unfortunate sans

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better not make the same mistake of having houston that high next year

hot onyx
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I believed every player on Outlaws was equal to their Shock counterpart

lost thicket
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Not even Apologist just not a hater

hot onyx
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Mer1t Kilo

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Pelican Proper

lost thicket
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also I like fixa a bit

hot onyx
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Danteh S9mm

lost thicket
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not a lot

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but he's someone I liked back in T2

hot onyx
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Piggy Coluge

willow drum
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coluge is > piggy

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now

hot onyx
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Now yes

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But preseason

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I had Piggystock

frosty patrol
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had to go to a weak region

lost thicket
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not a insane fan for him

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but idk it was fun watching him play lmao

frosty patrol
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uprising academy was a compilation of mid and low tier kr contenders talent

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and qoq

lost thicket
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Yeah

frosty patrol
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qoq being the best player on the team by far

frosty patrol
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not fixa diff

hot onyx
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Argument could be made for Stellar

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Since his tracer was pretty good even on ping

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But yes I have the same take with UP

frosty patrol
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uprising acad had
itsal - mid kr mt
qoq - middling owl ot but underrated by ed
victoria- goat (joke)
stellar - decent tracer
finale - shitter
fixa - bad kr contenders ms
simple - good

hot onyx
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Simple isn’t even a top 4 rookie fs

frosty patrol
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listen to this list of bad teams, according to r/owl

hot onyx
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Philadelphia Fusion

frosty patrol
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london
uprising
eternal
nyxl
titans
charge
hunters
valiant

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only 4-5 of these teams can be classified as bad imo

hot onyx
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Charge Hunters Valiant 🗿

frosty patrol
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there’s a definite argument for charge

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not hunters valiant

hot onyx
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Charge would not be bottom 5 if they were in NA

frosty patrol
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if you want to include charge the reasonable list is
boston
eternal
titans
nyxl
charge

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but yeah agreed

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well

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if rein comp is great london clown on them

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tbh

hot onyx
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If double hs dva mercy moira is great Fusion clown on the entire league

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Hypothetical scenarios love them

willow drum
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sans do u have dallas or shock

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winning

frosty patrol
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if dva ashe genji mercy ana is meta

hot onyx
frosty patrol
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fusion clown on the whole league

willow drum
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the match tmr

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the 2nd match tmr

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dallas v shock

frosty patrol
hot onyx
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Ohh yeah

willow drum
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????

hot onyx
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Honestly couldn’t tell you

frosty patrol
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spark

hot onyx
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Depends on meta

willow drum
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okay lets say hypothetically

hot onyx
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If zen bap is permanently viable probably Shock

willow drum
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zarya is not meta

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and double hs zen bap

hot onyx
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If dva or winston can be played without a reliance on hard hitscan though I give it to Fuel

frosty patrol
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how do we know what meta is

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it’s just speculative

willow drum
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according to custa

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when he talked with coaches

frosty patrol
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we can heavily infer zen will be played

hot onyx
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Mikeyy wouldn’t be signed if there wasn’t going to be a ball meta

willow drum
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they are all scrimming bap zen

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no ball

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i dont ever wanna see wheel again

frosty patrol
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not very trustworthy

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imo

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knowledge

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at the time

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he watched the scrims

willow drum
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Oh

hot onyx
frosty patrol
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he got invited to scrims

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by some NA teams

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probably the ones with heavy western rep

willow drum
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probably

frosty patrol
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like atlanta paris

willow drum
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but if the coaches

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decided to tell him they were all

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doing bap zen

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idk

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the coaches are much more reliable

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dont think they would lie

frosty patrol
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I could see sig bap zen

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but many dps will be viable

willow drum
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mike what are ur pickems

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for tmr

hot onyx
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Can’t wait for Kuki sigma

tropic herald
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Bap/Brig Zen

hot onyx
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Fusion had two goats in season 1

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Past two seasons they had 0 goats

frosty patrol
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not on mt

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but many goats have played for fusion

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carpe eqo boombox poko sado alarm (rip) ivy heesu funnyastro fury (the first time) tobi mn3 zest

frosty patrol
tropic herald
willow drum
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Dallas v Shock

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Justice vs NYXL

frosty patrol
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london 3-2 mayhem

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shock 3-1 dallas

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justice 3-1 nyxl

willow drum
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reasoning for all 3

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?

north relic
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mayhem 3-1 london
dallas 3-2 shock

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nyxl 3-0 justice

vagrant jacinth
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London 3-1 mayhem
Justice 3-1 nyxl

Still flip flopping on shock v fuel

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Marve1 good pick up for them but the players/staff shouldn't have to pay out of pocket

willow drum
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because imo all 3 of them

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are spicy takes

north relic
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i dont think mayhem is a spicy take

willow drum
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are spicy takes

north relic
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i just believe in dallas more

willow drum
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but how do nyxl

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sweep justice

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?

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yaki not a hs player

north relic
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im very low on justicce

willow drum
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decay is

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they got into the tourney

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imo u cant pred nyxl to sweep justice

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and not predict shock to win

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because the only meta nyxl can win in

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is double fs

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so if nyxl win it is bc of meta advantage

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so if u predict nyxl

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then by consistency proxy

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you pred teams in 2x fs

north relic
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i didnt pred NYXL because of 2x fs

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i believe justice fucking suck

willow drum
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very fair

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tbh

north relic
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ok i think i give justice a map

willow drum
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imo decay happy

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probably > yaki flora

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on 2x hs

north relic
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scriptwriters suggest that this is a close match

willow drum
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not high on nyxl

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but down on fuel

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kek

north relic
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ive put all my money into NYXL stock

willow drum
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and if it gets u

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nothing?

north relic
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it wont

willow drum
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copium is strong

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but respectable

tropic herald
vagrant jacinth
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Betting on nyxl

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Very dangerous

hot onyx
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Not really

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Because NYXL sign Clestyn at the last second

north relic
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they still need a sixth player

frosty patrol
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shock: doesn’t have throwing dps

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justice: OpenerSZN

frosty patrol
willow drum
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isnt kuki their player

ivory stag
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dallas gonna stomp shock tomorrow

willow drum
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not according to the proposed meta

north relic
next mesa
north relic
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levy getting flash backs

willow drum
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the problem is the support line

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finn viol2t on bap zen is the best 2x fs in the league

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honorary mention to shu skewed

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if you want to be that guy

cedar oasis
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Chiyo fielder is still top 5

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Also hanbin diff

willow drum
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between chiyo fielder

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and viol2t finn

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is a lot more than just #1 and #5

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in 2x fs

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simply because chiyo has NEVER

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ever

north relic
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thye

willow drum
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played baptiste or zen before in a real match

north relic
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fuel still have rapel

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trust me

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omg

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wait ong they have rapel

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the goat

twin bloom
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It is unreasonable because those players are still infinitely worse than their ATL countperparts

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Lmao

hot onyx
hot onyx
frosty patrol
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@willow drum shock fan saying max > clestyn

willow drum
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where is this absolute slander

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is it match discu?

frosty patrol
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shock discord match discussion

hot onyx
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OWLELETSGOOOOOO

north relic
hot onyx
frosty patrol
hot onyx
# north relic Cheating in owlel?

Yes after guessing ||Zappis|| first for the past 3 months and finally getting the answer right on the first try it is cheating my bad

frosty patrol
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we need an owl players of all time owlel

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based on their first team

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would make owlel harder

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especially for new fans

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but add another category like first season or something

hot onyx
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Imagine new fans looking at Valiant with a Space Fate tankline

frosty patrol
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or trying to guess vrbo

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or esca @hot onyx

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the hidden seoul player

hot onyx
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Esca made it to Seoul?

frosty patrol
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for 2 weeks

hot onyx
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I thought he got dogged and left in Lunatic Hai

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That’s a pretty cool fact

frosty patrol
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other cool facts include ed lore

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like that one guy who told me majed played for up

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when I asked him which western fs was on up

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(the answer is sixfeet, who has canadian citizenship)

hot onyx
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Obviously

frosty patrol
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sixfeet plays everything

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what a goat

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ms player with an ana and zen

frosty patrol
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not that he didn’t get it right

tropic herald
hot onyx
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Or if we go further into the lore you’ll find a loving father asking about what jersey he should buy his son

frosty patrol
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wholesome

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or if we go very far into lore

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you’ll find our ancestors

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the first ed users

hot onyx
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What universe are we in again?

frosty patrol
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our ancestors

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I am going to read the entire message history of ED

tropic herald
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and arble is still there

frosty patrol
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to become the first ED historian

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keeper of the ancient knowledge

tropic herald
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i recognize too many of these people for my liking nevermind im not reading it anymore

frosty patrol
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Empathy how long have you been in ed

north relic
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Empathy is a caveman

worn falcon
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mfw sprite doesnt join ED

tropic herald
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i have been in server since 2018 doe

frosty patrol
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to read up on

north relic
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I was born in 2019

hot onyx
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!!joined

young fractalBOT
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You joined on May 28, 2020

noble nexus
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I am 2019

north relic
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!!joined

young fractalBOT
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You joined on May 12, 2020

tropic herald
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yeah but do you actually recognize anyone who doesnt have a colored name in 2016 ed

north relic
noble nexus
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!!joined

young fractalBOT
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You joined on May 14, 2020

tropic herald
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!!joined

young fractalBOT
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You joined on Nov 28, 2018

worn falcon
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!!joined

young fractalBOT
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You joined on Feb 10, 2017

worn falcon
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get fucked

noble nexus
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No

hot onyx
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I am proud to have this as my first message

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King of foreshadowing

frosty patrol
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!!joined

young fractalBOT
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You joined on Feb 11, 2022

frosty patrol
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child

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but gonna read all the ancient manuscripts

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write the keeping tomes

north relic
hot onyx
north relic
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im a reincarnate of the first human being

tropic herald
worn falcon
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rip adam

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just signed and not played lole

willow drum
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!!joined

young fractalBOT
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You joined on Nov 01, 2020

lost thicket
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KariV/Adam/MirroR

willow drum
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god the florida org

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is disappoint

lost thicket
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all got dropped and or changed from playing to non playing on the Florida mayhem org before playing a single map

frosty patrol
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problem?

lost thicket
willow drum
lost thicket
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Adam hasn't even played how can he be the worst OT in league

willow drum
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signed him in the 1st place

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imho

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There just seems to be a lot of problems in the decisions that org makes

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For one

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the mf

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checkmate mt situation

lost thicket
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OGE Boom debuff

frosty patrol
paper forge
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Will the legendary league skin change for each ongoing tournament? Like will we get a new one to purchase tomorrow?

frosty patrol
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oge boomage

lost thicket
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I wish they just kept Gargoyle

willow drum
lost thicket
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jesus

willow drum
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signed oge then

vagrant jacinth
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Oge boomage was something

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But it gifted us chadmate rein

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And that was jokes

lost thicket
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diffed fearless

hot onyx
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Holy shit Adam is really never going to get playtime in OWL huh

ivory stag
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wait ans switch to glads?

tawdry hamlet
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Well with ow2 making teams a lot closer symbolically signing realistically not top or above average to give them a game in owl isn't really feasible financially

hot onyx
ivory stag
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glads and reign both look clean this season

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listen my dial up froze

tawdry hamlet
north relic
ivory stag
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why he showing up on their rosta

north relic
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just bad website

willow drum
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hes content cretaor

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showed up wrong

hot onyx
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“Holy shit Closer joined the Dallas Fuel”

ivory stag
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lol

north relic
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“Holy shit fusion signed heesu alarm funnyastro and fury, this is the year”

hot onyx
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Oh shit I need to do my pickems

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Microsoft's first web browser, Internet Explorer, is officially shutting down on June 15 after nearly 27 years of operation. The tech giant made a statement last year announcing the move, adding that it would push users to employ its newer browser, Microsoft Edge.

cunning patrol
north relic
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I kinda hate that teams can just drop players like this

frosty patrol
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he’s the nyxl’s next 30-day contract western offtank

split flume
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Florida is dead to me

vagrant jacinth
fathom igloo
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Bro valiant made moves

willow drum
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they didn't

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their players mad moves

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nohill and the players literally

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work 2gether

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and gave cuts out of their OWN salary

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to pay him

fathom igloo
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Wasn't nohill a coach of another team before LAV

cloud latch
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TEAM CC

hot onyx
willow drum
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doubt they have enough

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lmaoo

hot onyx
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Better idea

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Cut Coldests entire salary

split flume
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Better idea

hot onyx
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And put Haker on fs

split flume
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Don't sign 5 dps players then manipulate your players to pay out of pocket for the consequences of your own decisions

willow drum
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based draw take

hot onyx
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I dunno

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Innovation Haker double sombra meta

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Pops off

worthy drum
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woah look at adam's recent tweet about him being dropped

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"You guys didn’t have the respect to drop me in person and now your trying to hide it without an actual announcement? Cmon…."

split flume
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Again

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Florida is dead to me

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Clowns

hot onyx
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Don’t worry Draw

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Seoul still need an ot

split flume
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Wonder how avast will spin this 💀

hot onyx
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“I was not involved in this decision and I will not be commenting on the situation” seems like the type of answer from a guy working with the org

lost thicket
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Australians can coach and cast overwatch but we just can't play the bloody thing.

raw ermine
lost thicket
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Adam got dumped over text mannnn

willow drum
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Someone tried to scam me

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in my DMs

worthy drum
hot onyx
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“Hey man I’m under the risk of being released and I need a donation for performance enhancers”

vagrant jacinth
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Damn

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That fucking sucks

ivory stag
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wait is that real or is he memeing

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did they dumb him via twitter post? lol

willow drum
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real

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let's roast

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reinforce's rankings

tropic herald
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No

worthy drum
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lol

willow drum
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thet have fusion

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over fucking shanghai

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thoughts

ebon aurora
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what do you guys have as your preds for tomorrow

willow drum
ebon aurora
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yep I've got that

willow drum
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Shock win 3-2

ebon aurora
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I have Fuel 3-2

tropic herald
ebon aurora
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but honestly I really don't know which way that'll go

willow drum
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Justice 3-2

ebon aurora
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until proven otherwise though Fuel are the better team

ebon aurora
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I have justice 3-1

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NYXL in this meta could really struggle

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what tank do they play

willow drum
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It's predicted to be double FS

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is it not

ebon aurora
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if it's supposed to be poke

tropic herald
ebon aurora
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Can Kellan play Sigma?

willow drum
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yes

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he played it in contendies

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he got carried by heesang playing sigma tho

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and had no impact

tropic herald
willow drum
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Hanbin > Luge Sigma

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Kilo > Guriyo Widow

tropic herald
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dps are decently interchangable

willow drum
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Proper > Edison Tracer

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Viol2t/FiNN Bap Zen >> Chiyo Fielder Bap Zen

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In fact Dallas might even play the inferior Brig Zen

ebon aurora
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I think Fuel will keep running Zen Brig

willow drum
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Hanbin will be heavily pressured

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due to the long range healing Bap provides

tropic herald
next mesa
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Adam isn't good so

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Kinda sad but expected

tropic herald
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bap zen overall should be good

ebon aurora
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I really don't know what DPS Fuel will run

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Doha Hanzo maybe?

willow drum
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no

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you dont run doha hanzo

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no matter what

ebon aurora
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what? He's shown in the past he's good at it

willow drum
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because if the hanzo does not work

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he is fucked

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he can't play tracer

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he can't play ashe

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he can't play widow

ebon aurora
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hmm true

willow drum
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he certainly

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can't match proper on tracer

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on the hanzo

ebon aurora
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you think they'll run Edi Guriyo most of the time?

willow drum
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I think so yes

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because as much as edison sucks at hard hs

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it is infinently better

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than a fpds on hitscan

ebon aurora
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maybe Fuel 3-2 is a bit of a hot take now that I think about it

willow drum
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I mean if it makes you feel better

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All 5 people on platchat

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voted for sf shock

ebon aurora
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yeah I saw

willow drum
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so ur prob gonna be right

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lmao

ebon aurora
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which is kinda why I'm leaning against it

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they called Fuel a 1 trick team which isn't true

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even if they leaned heavily on Zarya

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they still showed some decent Sigma stuff on CR

willow drum
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imo that game

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is not good representation

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because that CR

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was very close between SF and DF

ebon aurora
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I mean, they played a lot of CR, not just the Shock match

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is what I meant

willow drum
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Agreed

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but always Brig Zen

ebon aurora
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Even if theoretically Fuel are weaker this meta it should still be a good match against Shock

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I can't see it being a blowout

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either way

willow drum
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We never know

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Maybe the Bap zen

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is miles ahead of brig zen

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maybe zen is not even meta

ebon aurora
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again I think a lot will be map dependant

willow drum
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The only advantage that the brig zen has over the bap zen is imo

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the health packs

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so they r pretty much locked into tracer

ebon aurora
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there might still be maps where dive, rush or the zarya stuff is still viable

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but we don't know the map pool so

ebon aurora
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hard to say

willow drum
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is viable

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its like with current buffs

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how do u kill a bap zen

willow drum
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that can kill u so easily

ebon aurora
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true

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I guess even full charge zarya might not kill a 225hp Zen

willow tartan
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plot twist is dallas fuel just go back to 6 man div e

ebon aurora
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I'm really curious what Fuel play

willow drum
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the problem is

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how much resources

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does she have to use

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how much poke would zarya take from the sigma and widow

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before reaching the bap zen

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and then how much bubbles/heals

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can she use to kill the bap zen

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keep in mind immortality exists

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and then even if somehow she kills the FS duo

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the enemy team has no resources

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and tracer widow sigma just fam

twin bloom
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Owl is so bad for players lmao

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Adam got screwed twice

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Lmao

willow tartan
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he wouldnt have been screwed if he was better at the video game

twin bloom
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Right about FLA tho

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Should have signed vulcgoat

willow tartan
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Someone's gigachad gaming is why he didnt play

twin bloom
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Or iron

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(Pre-Midseason Madness Tournament Power Rankings for Week 1)
These tier lists were made with the intention that the meta is Sigma Double HS Baptiste/Brig Zenyatta

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Fuck i put justice too high

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didn't i

frosty patrol
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vigilante shows up july 1

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and gaps everything

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he’s better than finn

willow drum
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this is june

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15

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this was made for week 1

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should disclose that next time

frosty patrol
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isn’t it just for the midseason madness

willow drum
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week 1 of midseason yes

frosty patrol
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which takes into account da vig being da goat

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oh nvm

willow drum
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justice above mayhem

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is egg on face tbh

frosty patrol
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nah

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kalios >= someone
happy = xzi
decay >= hydron
krillin > rupal/opener = anamo
da vig >> majed

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but for week 1

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yes

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absolutely

willow drum
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fine

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the whole of midseason madness

frosty patrol
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eh

cloud latch
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you have to remember this is justice

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they would go 6-0 one stage then go 0-6

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the next two

frosty patrol
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negligible in this meta because justice doesn’t need a tank to engage

willow drum
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imo poke

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is not macro heavay

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meta

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it is more individual skill

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and waiting for talent to pop off

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one case where sup7eme is doing his job

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(he signed amazing players)

frosty patrol
willow drum
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imo

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vigilante is not top 2

frosty patrol
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who is above

willow drum
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fielder finn

frosty patrol
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Disagree

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only shu

willow drum
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he only looked great in contendies on zen

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because of kellan ball

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and heesang tracer

frosty patrol
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he was marginally better than finn in contenders

frosty patrol
willow drum
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and vigilante had the best ms

frosty patrol
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fielder is a weak zen but could be 2nd sure, finn easily had the best roster

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kellan cane ado is a workload

willow drum
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kellan cane ado

frosty patrol
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vs junbin as the only dead weight

willow drum
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and still

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managed to drag o2 to 7 maps

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very unreal

frosty patrol
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the 3 good talon players

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are

willow drum
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generational

frosty patrol
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the world’s best

north relic
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Imo I’ll be surprised to see fielder zen at all

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I think fuel are just going to play something to their strengths

frosty patrol
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top 3 at their positions

willow drum
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then they will be mega fucked @north relic

north relic
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they won’t

frosty patrol
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I’ll put da vig 3

willow drum
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imo

north relic
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June joust they made their own meta

willow drum
#

bap zen is too strong

frosty patrol
#

and fi “worse than da vig” nn 4

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and ir1s 5

north relic
#

Where is fielder

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Twilight

frosty patrol
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fielder is 2

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twilight 6

willow drum
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twilight > iris

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imo

frosty patrol
#

actually let me think

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ok

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true

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twilight 5

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ir1s 6

north relic
#

Shu
Fielder
Finn
Vigi
Twilight
Lr15

willow drum
north relic
#

And then like UV

frosty patrol
cloud latch
#

what are y'all takling about

frosty patrol
#

how da vig clears finn

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well not clears

north relic
#

except he doesn’t

frosty patrol
#

it’s very close with a slight vigilante edge

cloud latch
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we shall see

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if vig lives up to the hype

north relic
#

Vigi is going be benched by krillin

frosty patrol
#

closeted shock simp levi?

cloud latch
#

more like

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a justice staff hater

north relic
#

Reign simp levi

cloud latch
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I trust crusty 9k and casores or whoever over whoever is coaching washington

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supreme

cloud latch
frosty patrol
cloud latch
#

supreme is a debuff

frosty patrol
cloud latch
#

?

cedar oasis
#

no way supreme gets shat on by nohil rush and moon

full lichen
#

OH YEAH FLORIDA DOIN SHIT

next mesa
#

Oh shit wrong chat

fervent crow
#

DM me if interested in joining weekly Fantasy OWL Tournaments!

next mesa
#

No

fathom igloo
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Imagine self promoting lmao

earnest leaf
#

Damn adam got fucked again

frosty patrol
#

last time was injustice

willow drum
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imo ATP

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sounds very dumb thinking Monkey Rein is meta

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with Zen Bap backline

cloud latch
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I legit forgot adam existed on florida mayhem

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I thought someone was the only tank

earnest leaf
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Couldn't use him in the first stage so now they're dropping him

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kinda weird

worthy drum
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and like, what happens when someone (dont even) is sick or something? Chadmate returns?

willow drum
#

3 times before his reverse sweep against glads

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i guess

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someone will have to roughen up

willow tartan
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I would love a Chadmate part 3

gritty axle
#

Yo blizzard. You either fix experimental or i chop your balls🔪

next mesa
#

shits going down w nohill

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still have complete faith tho

earnest leaf
#

making your players chip in with their salary to fund your crackhead roster idea is

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very cringe

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While also having 5 dps players

next mesa
#

very based imo

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valiant players are all loaded anyways

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it speaks lengths on how united the team is

earnest leaf
#

I bet they enjoy minimum contract and paying to have another player

next mesa
#

ofc they do

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their families are loaded lol

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who cares

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also

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nohill was fully prepared to pay marvel all by himself, other coaches and players wanted to pay ReaperShrug they are really united but haters gonna hate ig

earnest leaf
#

still cringe

next mesa
#

valiant is extremely mismanaged, very glad that nohill is doing so much for the team

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valiant does not deserve him as a coach

static pond
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Wait there actually letting the players use some of there money?

willow tartan
#

god gamer nohill

next mesa
static pond
#

Ya just read it

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Group decision

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Do the players really like nohill that much to help him out?

next mesa
#

he is like their dead

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dad*

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tbh

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diya nohill innovation are all hella tight i wont be surprised

earnest leaf
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maybe don't have 5 dps players so you don't have to convince your players to chip in

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to get a new tank

lost thicket
#

Nohill SZN

earnest leaf
#

nohill szn to bottom two apac

next mesa
#

they are gonna be in the finals

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vs seoul

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molly coldest in yo backline

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🕺

lost thicket
#

banger

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watching super "the finisher" delisi on control point Map 5 v Justice

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ANS on mei was somehow

#

good

twin bloom
#

Valiant are worse than boston

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In every role

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Imo

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And boston is bottom 4 NA

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Probably bottom 2 cauae i thinl paris does better

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This stage

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Nyxl as well

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Hopefully titans

lost thicket
#

super had a carry performance during that fight jesus

twin bloom
#

So bottom 1

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Imo

lost thicket
#

L

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one more submap

#

jesus imagine watching this live would be so scary lmao

lost thicket
#

Dogman S2 was HOT

tropic herald
#

Ok poke is met

#

Meta

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Lets see some power rankings I’m bored

lost thicket
#

how do we know it's meta

tropic herald
#

Because I said so

balmy wolf
#

i thought brawl was meta

willow drum
#

why would brawl be meta

#

it is poke

willow drum
#

in poke meta

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assuming vigi plays

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glads are only first

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because we haven't seen them lose to anybody in this stage

#

eh

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sure but at the same time

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this is literally a whole new patch

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drastically different meta

#

my thought is just

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the #1 will keep being the #1 unless proven otherwise

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and Glads don't play Shock in the qualifiers

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so we will have to wait a long time

raw ermine
willow drum
#

NO

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WAIT

#

WHY

tiny pollen
#

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

willow drum
#

WHAT

#

@next mesa

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THIS IS UR TIME

#

DROPED GLIST

#

ER

tiny pollen
#

FUCK PARIS

#

PARIS LTERNAL

next mesa
#

why did you tag me tf

willow drum
#

my bad

#

someone tag ian

#

he is dying rn

#

i bet

tiny pollen
#

paris will lose to titans now

willow drum
#

agree

ebon aurora
#

wait do Paris even have 2 dps now

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it's just Wub?

#

or am I forgetting someone

willow drum
#

okay lmaoo

#

unironically very attractive human

#

imho

earnest leaf
#

paris proving they are a bad org

#

unless glister wanted out himself

devout path
#

Probably wanted to play in apac

#

Plus bad team performing bad = u look bad

plush grail
#

my guess is language barrier

white berry
#

glister wants a better team 💀

plush grail
#

glister is fucking weird

#

first he plays for shock

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then goes to paris

#

like mf what did u expect

white berry
#

lmao

#

his back is too tired

willow drum
#

(the paris fan is mad that his org is shit)

devout path
#

Shock has a MUCH better system for Korean players

plush grail
#

glister and striker are so fucking DUMB

willow drum
#

glister cant be compared to striker

#

lmao

devout path
#

Firstly the head coach is Korean

willow drum
#

crusty's english

#

is fire

#

as well

devout path
#

Secondly there are other Korean players

#

Paris has none of that

earnest leaf
#

jmac is korean

willow drum
#

imo ian

devout path
#

Didn’t ask

willow drum
#

if u think that glister leaving paris

#

is the same as striker leaving boston

#

deluded paris fan imo

earnest leaf
#

I will now confidently put paris at the bottom of power rankings

devout path
#

Striker left Boston cuz he’s a toxic loser

willow drum
#

glister left paris cause paris is a shit org

earnest leaf
#

tbf we don't know really know why striker left this time

devout path
#

Glister left paris because they couldn’t accommodate him

devout path
plush grail
devout path
#

Like we said

earnest leaf
#

just another paris L

willow drum
#

common paris l

#

damn ian cant get anything

#

this season

devout path
#

Kinda dumb of them to think that a single Korean player would work on a European roster

#

They just wasted a ton of money for no wins

earnest leaf
#

their players are probably all on minimum contracts

#

sucks paris is ran by an org that gives no fucks

plush grail
#

paris really fumbled the bag with the dps line

#

naga onigod was good

willow drum
#

you wanna know fumbled?

#

they had mf

#

xzi and sparkle

ebon aurora
#

who is Paris's 2nd dps?

willow drum
#

in 2020

#

and now they are probably having

plush grail
#

that's budget

ebon aurora
#

am I dumb or do they only have Wub

willow drum
#

ice and wubbed

#

its prob iced

worn falcon
#

why the fuck paris would dip their best dps?

worthy drum
willow drum
#

hes a filler hs player

worn falcon
#

after naga

willow drum
#

thats NA

worn falcon
willow drum
#

organization

#

lmao

worn falcon
#

hope it is just Glister moving on

ebon aurora
#

Glister to Fuel?

#

that would be a nuts pickup ngl

worn falcon
#

Nah, Glister to Vanc

#

Cockwave/Glister

ebon aurora
#

they just said he struggled to play with a Western team lol

worn falcon
#

geeez

#

But apparently Glister wasnt bad at that, oh well

#

Glister to Valiant

plush grail
#

nohill wants more dps

ebon aurora
#

I don't think they will sign him but Glister to Fuel would be insane

willow drum
#

imo

#

if dallas have 5 dps players

worn falcon
#

4 dps on Dallas?

willow drum
#

i will probably riot

willow drum
worn falcon
#

Doha, Edison, Sparkle, Guriyo

ebon aurora
#

let's be honest though, Glister is a huge upgrade on Guriyo

worn falcon
#

adding Glister would be

#

the fuck

tiny pollen
#

glister prob retires

#

!

ebon aurora
#

that's the sort of hitscan player Fuel need to really contend for the title

tiny pollen
#

midster

#

sadly

ebon aurora
#

if Guriyo doesn't level up - it's entirely possible he does

earnest leaf
#

glister would be an upgrade over guriyo

worn falcon
#

but according to Dallas Guriyo is improving faster

#

and Doha is warming the bench

tropic herald
vagrant jacinth
#

Please someone pick up glister

worn falcon
#

Toronto can grab Glister

#

Glister/Heesu

ebon aurora
#

they fill similar roles

#

idk if Glister is even an upgrade on Heesu

north relic
worn falcon
#

Glister is really good on hard hitscan

vagrant jacinth
#

Pain.

next mesa
#

as coach

#

jmac and glister are close

#

its not unreasonable to think it wouldwork

north relic
#

also glister has been on shock

willow drum
#

and?

worn falcon
#

he wasnt bad on shock

#

like isnt much different than paris, unless he felt alone because no kr in

trim shadow
#

Paris

#

Spiritually

#

And physical

#

Confuse me

#

The fuck is going inside that team

north relic
trim shadow
#

Naga leaves wub is signed the next
Roty canidate glister leaves
And they sign dove?..
KV95_codm_pepethinking

willow drum
#

last year yes

plush grail
#

also what the fuck happens if one of the la valiant players leaves

#

do they also have to drop marve1 then

trim shadow
# plush grail

Welp guess best girl is not long for this world either since she was suppose to be the bridge between kr and english

earnest leaf
trim shadow
#

This team is just average

twin bloom
#

Iced robbed

trim shadow
#

Maybe drido is above

twin bloom
#

This is depressing

#

I am sad

twin bloom
trim shadow
#

Paris just exist

twin bloom
#

Good player

#

On a shit

#

Roster

vagrant jacinth
#

Paris fans in eternal pain

plush grail
trim shadow
#

BUT HEY WE MOVING TO LAS VEGAS

static pond
#

I'm curious if Paris will change there colors

worn falcon
#

paris about becoming the team under the barrel instead bottom

plush grail
#

honestly just nuke london and paris

#

make 1 big team with the 2 rosters

#

they could be competitive if u get to pick pieces from both teams

worn falcon
#

downgrade london and paris to contenders and make top contenders to owl

#

ez

trim shadow
#

London rebrand win

#

Texas spitifre kekw

next mesa
#

imo

north relic
#

0-24
0-24
0-24
0-24
0-24

plush grail
worn falcon
#

But they dont want because muh franchise

willow drum
#

replace paris

worn falcon
#

unironically its that why they paid for franchises

willow drum
#

with the ed team

#

lmaoo

worn falcon
#

so they cant get their spot stolen from the tournie

#

even if they bad

willow drum
#

legit just imo

#

get the ed players

#

on paris

#

we do betetr no cap

worn falcon
#

its like the Vikings still playing on the NFL and @earnest leaf still coping

sullen berry
tiny pollen
#

ive beat dove in a tracer 1v1 in death match put me in owl

willow drum
#

still will get shit on

#

by proper

#

and the s6 roty

#

(HeeSang)

worn falcon
#

from happiness to sadness

raw ermine
#

chads

hot onyx
#

@plush grail HAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHA

#

Good pickup

plush grail
#

shut up

willow drum
#

dove is such a great player

#

(he is not)

#

plat chat guarantee

lost thicket
#

Glister to Fuel LEAKED

next mesa
#

Dove is

#

Pretty good

#

For an NA hitscan

wary tulip
#

just add nebraska as a team

tiny pollen
#

dove is good

#

but he cant play tracer

cunning patrol
#

its his 2nd best hero

tiny pollen
#

🧢

tropic herald
north relic
#

what are your thoughts on this card

cloud latch
#

I do not believe she had damage boost bound to her controls

ivory stag
#

psssshhhh not even that much heals

#

'😎

willow drum
cloud latch
#

LET'S GOOOOOOO HE'S GONNA BE A GREAT IGL

#

very good plat tank I think

willow drum
#

agree

willow drum
#

so true

north relic
#

I hate you can drop a player so easily now

vagrant jacinth
#

Yeah it's not a good look for the league

frosty patrol
#

are eternal just gonna run

#

gig vulcan dove wub lep lukemino

#

or something

twin bloom
north relic
#

WRONG CHANNEL

#

low IQ addi strikes again

frosty patrol
devout path
worn falcon
north relic
#

top tier OWL analyst