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That's old overwatch
“I don’t know much but from what I’ve seen Aimygod and FiXa might as well not have been there” -nan
“I don’t know anything but even I can see that they’re useless” -also nan
what are her thoughts on belosrea
Spark
also aimgod is not having a negative effect
he's just not having an effect
fixa belosrea negative effect
Not specifically Belosrea but she said “Dynasty might as well be playing against two players”
lol true
B r o t h e r
cause twitter
I hate this bro
super should have retired
earlier imho
then shock would have kept smurf
who is a goat
2:35
Shock relies on violet for comms
so doomed
And before that moth
That's two nano brigs now... What am I missing? I thought the first was a mistake
What have I just watched
And crusty doesn't want to change ig
nano brig is crazy and has always been crazy
Crazy good?
yes
why does philly keep picking dive maps
But why
Get these open division chumps off of my team
This isn't a fair fight bro
more tankyness, and more inspire uptime, takes pressure off of ana
and nano brig does NUTTY dmg
why is nano rein good
Damage reduction + healing + easy damage
shieldbash+whipshot kills dps
Mm ok thanks fellas
instantly
Makes sense
brig as well
Carpe was on the s1 London yeah?
Or has he always been on philly
@hot onyx
always philly
Because they are stupid dumbtards
Poor man
Wtf profit just walks into the whole team and survives with kills to boot
Zombs and rawkus
GOAT
he's the GOAT
On a scale of 1-10, how depressed are philly fans
his aura
10
theyve been 10
since 2019 stage 1
2018 finals they were happy still
second place isnt bad
but 2019 was rough
How do you 6-0 the champions over to 2 series and get this demolished
vindaim so good
^^^
Shanghai looked shaky
shanghai bad
and fusion
They need 2 tanks cause thats were 90% of their synergy came from
Shanghai had by far the best OT play in the league
izayaki doesnt use nades
and the best synergy with the offtank
and ljg feeds
they cleaned all of that
in match against seoul
but not enuff
(dps diff happened)
exactly
LJG expects peel
imo greedy player
MS should never rely on resources for valu in plays
nah he's j not fully adjusted to Ow2
gg this is over
in s4 he was the best in the world
the spawn camp :(
please dont pick a dive map
wait
is profit going to win smth
he hasnt won since 2018 right?
3-0 we lad 1 more
This is giving 2021 finals vibes
could not imagine being fusion fan fr
jeeeez
dont you dare say that
We have 2 cursed orgs, both known to choke
this is ouch
this would be the most seoul thing
they probably expected this
whoever was going in from the losers final was going to win
this is going map 7
fusion never fought a strong opponent
philly is going to win the next 3
seoul is going to take it tho
cause philly needs the silver
YEP
HOLY SHIT THAT DEFLECT WAS INSANE
Philly fusion? More like San Fraudcisco Shock kekw
I’m actually disgusted and ashamed of this organisation
AYO
Refusing to continue trying to win in the season after the November 8th tragedy
And signing utter open division dogshit like Belosrea and FiXa
You sound suprised
I wish this was on twitch
Of course I am
Instead of using their unlimited riches to buy good players like Clestyn Sado and Sanguinar
I have no faith in my team
To win against dragons
but philly cant win either
They sign horrible players to ruin the hopeful careers of MN3 and ZEST before they have even begun
Death, taxes and philly finishing 2nd
Oh wait I forgoy
My favorite team from each side is gonna win 💪💪💪💪
It's best of 7
no shot
no shot
Woops
no one is saying that either of them are bad
This is a worse org than Titans and Valiant and I am disgusted to watch the same league that they are in
ZEST and MN3 have years ahead of them
imo 2 of the top 5 dps rn
with alphayi, profit, and proper
Dragons come back and beat both teams
kevster is up there
Kevster
round 3
5v10
But it’s a good thing I don’t support these worthless lowlifes
I feel like im in 2017 saying taht
#sparktheworld
;-;
#RescueMN3
We need to come back stronger
At least your team didn’t throw the off season just because of a tragedy
#MN32Shock
where's the steel tweet
from valorant
disappointing to our fans, we'll come back stronger
Fun fact
@hot onyx would u rather support london, titans, fusion or shock
Steel plays for the fusion
T1 aka Comcast
AND WAIT
T1 HASNT WON WORLDS SINCE AQUIRED
shock
Smurf has been amazing so far but I hope Profit gets MVP
Titans then London then MN3 ZEST Carpe then Shock then the rest of Fusion
titans over shock?
any reason for it
history
I've gotten 0 Pickem point for this bracket 🥲
i was a titans fan in 2019
titans has cool players
had*
Seominsoo is my fav player
has
SEOUL IS GOING TO WIN!!
skairippa
they def arent the best
and aztac
but titans players are pretty cool
We found Sherlock 💀
Fuck Shock and their fanbase + Titans have learned their mistake after keeping horrible coaches and learned to remove them midseason for a clear upgrade
This is phillys sixth final right
Plus unlike Fusion Titans players have potential
Fifth
LMFAO
2 in s3
😭
stage 2, finals
It's fine they don't have fans
SS and CC
why fuck shock? do u dislike org, players or just cause they've won so much
Fanbase
is the worst
and honest to god overrated coaching staff
Or Atlanta
Atlanta fanbse except marvel is full of edgelords and NA rednecks
they only made them look good back in 2019 and 2020 cause they literally j had the best players in the game
When their entire franchise is getting carried by 2 players rn
everyone is like "crusty made the deep roster work"
That's such a shit take
no its not
like unreal
hot take but coaches in general are overrated af
Moth was solid but not nearly top 1
Sinatraa was insane preowl
He wasnt
thats why he was signed
He literally wasn't
aint no coaching gonna make up for a huge skill dif
He was rlly good
pulse?
But not insane
his zar on selfless was insane
wrong
No western player was rlly insane in hindsight
coaches matter a fuckton
fair take
And he flopped in S1
honestly
can you attribute that to crusty?
Does he work on the micro
Yes
I thought he was the macro coach
He literally made the best out of Boston too
and he had nineK and arachne
no he was the micro
Embarrassing for the fusion
not S2
no arachne went to charge s3 right?
gg wp @next mesa org gap
Oh im dumb then nvm
from my understanding (could be wrong)
crusty - micro
casores - team comps
ninek- macro teamplay
wait i though nineK was micro? at least on paris
this is what i needed to see
nineK is also micro yeah
cause rush is very macro heavy
they can do both i think
Rush is crazy
thank you so much 🙏
honestly the shock loss might b on casores
bro dont get happy yet
just a comp diff
the thing is tho
4-0
its up to crusty and nineK to j overrule him
yeah fair enough
what are you talking about
if casores makes the wrong comp calls
it could also be players saying "we dont like playing zar"
and not pull out the nero soldier on illios in 2021 against the glads map 1
or just being bad at zar
zarya as a comp is about more then just the tank
I am mortified to have once supported this dogshit excuse of a professional team
#shieldsup
imo I think that if you're crusty you focus less on meta and just developing players to their full potential. cause you won't win this year with no ms or mt player
so you polish all the players this year
so that next year
He's moved
they win
viol2t is better at FS then MS
He's imo top 5 MS rn
Ok then thats the play
Imma b real
here is my hottest of takes
To sign American players
yes
Hm
Kevster>proper
Proper had the stronger team by YEARS in contenders and heesang carried to multiple map 7s
and a game 3 back in s1
When in reality that's not possible most of the time
that was literally a 14 mapper
Look at Nero
3-4, 4-2, 1-0
GGs
No
Ppl said he would be championship level
profit finally won
Any Fusion fans
He was low A overall
yiiiiikes
Philly moment
SECOND PLACE
Who?
Look at s9mm
high B cause i remember his mei
AGREED!!!
I always on the anti NA hype train
Coluge is also mediocre
his echo was also solid
they need junbin/max
then they win
grab sanguinar
I think this is pretty wrong actually.
Junbin < Kellan
OT is pretty even
Vigilante =< FiNN
Ch0r0ng > Chiyo and Vindaim
Heesang = Proper
Kilo Mer1t > Ado
still is maybe...
max is OT
Maybe zest should join shock 💀
Coluge is fine
we learning korean names
Junbin>Kellan on ball
You cannot be telling me Clestyn > Coluge
And Max>Attack on dva and sig
imo kellan is better than junbin
Easily
Clestyn is insane
It’s a great day to be a Seoul fan
agree
Coluge is ight on Ot
lmao
Okay I'm ngl, Super really fucked up the Shock
agreed
I had my tea has Philly lost yet
And insanely mid off it
T1 was meant to be in that finals too
He is, by a significant margin
I called it last night too
yeah they focused on him too much
rather then build the best roster
Called it in my pickems
shock fans moment lmao
Also shock going for s9mm is still so stupid
no
Think they thought he was staying for the year and be pulled out last minute
just strictly individually
I said Seoul never loses at all so I failed my pick ems
The only team that wanted s9mm was titans
proper is better player
ye don't agree about that
That alone is a indicator
how
Idc it's true lmfao
S9mm has been so bad most of the time
Anyone who says Fury Belosrea and FiXa is better than Clestyn Sado and Sanguinar is inadvertently admitting that they do not watch professional Overwatch with their eyes open
Ah, I had them losing first to dragons because you know
s9mm wasnt even the best player in na
Literally it's like if Super left earlier in the season, Shock would have kept Smurf. And if Smurf wasn't there they would have signed MuZe. All of them were cracked players on the MT and then they have Coluge coming in, a solid OT.
stellar>s9mm imo
I mean to say I agree
Lol
and obviously speedily
s9mm is alright
I didn't think the dragons were that good at first
It's like if Super didn't leave so late Shock should defo be Top 3 in the Tournament
but should have gone to titans
Yeah
Definitely
s9mm is not that good
He's shit
just not as good as the rest of the team
Other than that he has been ass
profit truly
Literally has a superstar squad around him
my goat
hes shit
And still manages to suck
I just had philly and dragons swapped
he cannot play echo at an owl level
Philly can’t break the runner up curse ;;
every hero he plays
Congrats bra
Proper is better
That too
and kilo can j play the other one
Max Junbin Heesang Proper Kilo (X) FiNN Viol2t boutta be the craziest fucking roster
you two are shock fans right?
aiden is actually unproven
I'm a kevster fan
based
what team was he on
Actually I think they should get rid of Viol2t
What
cause he was signed to o2 after ow1 ended
thanks babe
Viol2t has been great except for the last 2 games
team cc @trail perch
Fuck no
que?
straight up wrong take imo
Viol2t has been rlly good
Hayoquian and aimgod?
Shock doesn’t need to change anything, they just need more LAN experience
They need a MT
get an actual main support and main tank
where did aiden fit in?
that's all they need
Ah wiat no
Viol2t has been the 5th best MS
They dominated qualifiers
Easily
Aiden didn't play on Team CC
yeah thats what i thought
and if you're missing money get rid of s9mm or viol2t
aiden was benched
1.ch0r0ng 2.fastro 3.vindaim 4.chiyo 5.viol2t
Bad take
S9mm is terrible
This chat
I honestly don't understand the viol2t hype so much. I started being a fan on s4
then ur dumb
Naga > s9mm 💯💯💯💯💯
its been 5 years
And philly is still getting rolled by Profit
thats far
viol2t is very goated
Cause idk about everyone else
too far
But when im not trolling
He's not anymore lol
naga imo is very bad
Last season he was ok
Im literally very good at this game and understand it
still is lol
Talk yo shit 🗣🗣🗣
and NTB coaches contenders i think
This season he is still ok
viol2t last season
Nah
second half was good
viol2t last season played on a shite team
Oh ive played t3 lmao
u cant blame him lmao
viol2t fed last season cause he wanted to get mvp
Yes man you are very good way better than Crusty 🙂
W some worldcuo players etc
uninformed take
but he's not mvp caliber lol
imo you have no clue what you are talking about
and its quite clear
Viol2t last season only fed first half
imo pepis you should be quiet
i angered the viol2t stans lol
i wouldnt get my team 3-0ed by running a shit comp :)
Imagine doubting philly
Second half viol2t went batshit crazy
unironically i am only a heesang stan
Finally carpe can have something
and @next mesa is a seoul fan
also i have been watching comp ow since 2016
You’re right because you will never play at that calibre
Also prime viol2t gets only beaten by prime void
i agree
agree
bro i got t2 offers
when i played competitivly
🤡
I j moved to val cause i lost motivation
yes?
I am a viol2t stan
i am a heesang stan
so yes
stans do exist
of players
Viol2t has been rlly great except one half of a season
sir u prob peaked plat
And he told pvpx to off himself
You’re literally the type of dude who says “yea I could have gone pro I just didn’t feel like it”
Which is based imho
imo you have no clue what you are talking about so you call us (smart people) stans
the fact that people got so angry that I think viol2t is not that good proves there are indeed viol2t stans
that is pretty bsed
except i actually played this game competitively
which is the main difference
your only argument is calling people that disagree with you stans
lmao
quite sad
PvPx once ran over my cat with his Honda civic 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
why are you so angry man calm down
anyone that chats here knows i am not a viol2t stan
PvPx called me slurs :(
yeah ur a lunatic hai simp
I was just sharing my opinion on viol2t
“Guys look at me I played in tier 3 and now I think I’m better coach than Crusty”
And that opinion is wrong
ESCA TO THE MOON
it is pretty wrong
EU ONTOP
bro shock threw the game
so how'd the finals go
profit >> kevstea
imo
profgoat more like
Imho
Dridro my only rep
kevster is better than profit
Kevster owns him
profit did so much
Because
Peepster better than profit
And the reiner
agree fits carried that fool last map
we have creative
And does more
Someone clears all 🥱
It's close, but kev > profit
profit really gettin carried
Creative was nuts in finals
u have shu
by his team again 🤦
Like unironicaly
vvv Spoilers for East Grand Finals vvv
||And so the curse remains.. Philidelphia obtain runner up yet again. Will this be the beginning of a new redemption arc, or are the Fusion destined to spend their time in another team’s shadow? Find out next time dragon ball z! ggs Seoul!||
imo shu differential bigger
profit did a lot uironically first few maps
creative has been quite impressive this year
Nah
U can't tell me
Creative shu is a bigger diff
Than smurf reiner
Cmon man
ok in this meta
it is
no
imo
shu is a goat
Also
i dont think goat is fair
Fits patiphan
however imo overall player yes
imo he is great
yea creative outside of ana 💀
but not goat
i dont get it .. SHD has beaten dynasty twice, lost close against dynasty today with 2-3.. so like they're equal .. and SHD lost twice against fusion. but today dynasty claps fusion 4-0 ???
Is a absurd diff
yes!
shd are bad!
rock papper scissors
SHD suck
Pati is low C
I'm not sure if their internet problem is affecting their ping, but that would explain why they suck so much this year
bro
where are SHD bad, dude?
fair to say
Izayaki and Leejaegon are looking like shitters
Imho
yes
yeah they have
SHD backline has been trash
and ljg throws games
FUCK KEVSTER
BASED
Thoughts about discario @willow drum
oh, they kept throwing again?
hmm
Kevster owns both
? who
unintenionally who
||k*nky|| little shit
i think shd are still adopting their teamplay to the new 5v5 format. they'll prolly win the next
i mean all of the players underperforming on SHD have shown themselves to be top tier before so if they can just regain form
unlucky they got nerfed in the 5v5
true
?
even if u dont agree with best player
imo
Levy speaking facts fr
he is the best tank player
guaranteed
and that is a fact
if u argue with that and throw names like
fate
or
void
fearless 😈
u are uniroincally not watching owl
Profit is the absolute god
ur not watching owl
Smurf a bit more goated, I mean, the guy’s won the most tournaments in league history
profit sux.
goated != best
bruh I wish they made mvp skins cause I would kill for a hanbin zarya one if he keeps it up
choi will always be the greatest tank to me
uninformed take in my opinion
Hanbin has been very very good
very true, I wonder how a Seoul vs Dallas game would go
so who is the best
Idk
what about space and super?
fits n smurf >
Super is gone
I think the current top 3 tanks in the league are Reiner, Hanbin and Smurf
Space has barely played
?? actually uninformed
super retired
space is benched
lmao
bruh why do you have to be so fucking rude lol
hanbin has been better than these shitters since 2019
agree tbh
seoul have 4
vindaim is different rn
Shanghai is still the best team in apac btw
if u dont know
basic facts
dont partake
shut up nerd
He will never get over getting double swept by the Fusion
Lmfao once shanghai gets out lockdown and off ping it's literally over for the entire league...
let people discuss even if they don't know jackshit
That’s cool, I’ll agree with that take when Fate LJG Izayaki can beat counterparts that are worst in the league in that region
They had 0 ping issues for any matches this tournament what are you talking about
Wrong
i dont think shanghai is the best
It's unclear if they actually had ping issues or not
i know that he retired. i thought this dumb bullcrap discussion is about the best tank in OWL history.
yea dw
Creative kinda popped off
no because fate is late on engages, izayaki forgot how to play and leejaegon feeds
sadly any top na team will crush shd
facts
LJG is a roulette wheel
imo u are on the copium
Notice how they almost beat seoul still
I miss Alarm
i meant seoul
And lost two times to the fusion? Swept twice?
for 2 seasons straight
and when fate does engage he feeds
has had 2 good players only
notice how they got 3rd place?
imo this "Edison" guy is on more copium than Memeicus is on
Void hasn't looked that good imo
Shanghai on lockdown, they will terrorize the league in the coming months everyone...
I was surprised they made it so far
let those toxic morons keep on shit talking. SHD always needed time to fully adapt their teamplay.
Cope
Cope
Shanghai on lockdown don’t mean shit 
APAC this year seems shittier in general idk, if that's just me
I agree
i bet fatbin and his fools gonna get clapped by glads, today
top of apac is shittier than top of NA
“It’s so unfair, you’ve got Carpe MN3 and ZEST who are playing their little hearts out, and they’ve got absolutely no support whatsoever”
but mid of apac > mid of na
-nan
ur nan is so based
Ehhhh? Seoul has it good man idk
uniroincally s tier analyst
Fusion don't have a backline
sans how are you feeling
true
maybe they've gotten totally surprised by seouls plan. i was surprised aswell, seeing seoul leading 3-0 😮
???? why would they be surprised
all of apac owns NA except 3 teams
I still agree Void is a better Zarya than Hanbin, Hanbin just has Edison to clean up his mistakes while neither Lip or Fleta play a good Reaper
seoul is on monkey mirror
hanbin does not
make mistakes
you are blind
Glads game
edison has hanbin to clean up his mistakes
pretty sure lip has a nasty reaper lol
because a human being cannot possibly be this dumb
He’s not been showing it
he def has
Who won?
@next mesa unironically cant wait for sf shock to take a fat dump on shd in the double fs meta
||Seoul||
Shock?????
bebe diff
Void is still god zarya
The curse continues
the best player on SHD
true
bebe is shd cheerleader
like taiyo was to shock
imo fan behavior
With that wide smile
Shock fucking shit the bed against Dallas and SHD are at least as good as Dallas when they’re able to dictate the pace of the game
bebe is best player on shd
read my sentence again (impossible)
I'm inclined to believe SHD is dealing with ping issues, because why else would they suck so much after how good they were last year
dragons r not
They have alot of issues tho
saying they are is
also dragons get swept by dallas
very copium
all the same
imo
because shd got hard nerfed by ow2
lmao
There isn’t going to a double fs meta with Lucio being that necessary
? lucio is getting nerfed next stage
next stage has a new character?
could be but idk
solider got nerfed as well
and izayaki
because of the 5v5 format, i think.
is not fucking
also if zen health changes go into effect next stage
Give dragons like half the season they will get back in the grove
as hard w the nades
Maybe they got surprised that the non dps players on their team are dogshit
You still can’t play Doom nor really Winston without a Lucio atm
and zen has 225 health and good defensive
yea but why is he not fucking? he was fucking last year
yes but we don't know if they are going to be good
idk
next stage
I miss old izayaki
support plays
very differently
in 5v5
True
think that next stage is like a WHOLE new meta
Aight that’s fair
Seoul Dynasty are a god squad
truth
Most maps played without any title:
- Carpe, 523
- Shaz, 443
- BigGoose, 435
- Sado, 412
- Hotba, 404
- Kellex, 398
- Danteh, 391
- Masaa, 390
- Note, 380
- OGE, 355
190
if they're dogshit, how come they won seasons twice ?? why are you coming up with such dumb nonsense making bullcrap?
that's depressing
unironically that makes me want to cry
LMAO Danteh is gonna be #1 soon
I still think Shock, Glads, Fuel and maybe even ATL would shit on Seoul
6v6 OW =/= 5v5 OW
Atlanta wouldn't
imagine thinking philly will win
NA bias imo
what are you talking about
Shock wouldn't
No I think Outlaws are worse
Idk, this year it seems like APAC is weaker
The SHD need to clean it up badly, as I think they’re currently booming almost as bad as the Spark
Absolutely false
? he's saying glads shock fuel and maybe atl shits on seoul
that's NA bias imo because only 1/2 shits on seoul
APAC needs more teams
agreed
EU and APAC need more teams
Why do people always do alliteration
imagine thinking more companies would be willing to invest in owl
No other team has alliteration
also now that Paris is gonna relocate next year