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LIP HUGE
Well that why I think tracer better then reaper
WE'RE GOING TO MAP 5
SO HUGE
The Shanghai Dragons have the highest map 5 winrate in the League.
they lose without reaper
???
agree
no reaper and they have no damage
lmao
loses all synergy with zar
LiP rlly saving dragons
and void has less charge
That was so clutch several times from him
pls dont switch them
Fleta blossom clutch
let fleta and void stay
dragons clutch
bro I hate push so much
have teams still been playing echo?
cause i feel like i havent seen her as much
yes
Man this is so close
God seoul games are so good
true
bro
hope fusion one is good aswell
if seoul loses in map 5 to dragons again
regardless who wins this game
The Shanghai Dragons have the highest map 5 winrate in the league.
Seoul wins
I believe ππ»
because shanghai
also
there is no other answer for it
that map was a certified fucking push moment
Choke dynasty at it again
that ljg beat
close spawns, contesting with one person, losing by a sliver of a team fight
beautiful
i wonder what other game mode has problems like that 
Push sucks to watch but sucks less to play than 2cp IMO
^
i only liked at max 2 / 3 2cp maps
I wasn't a fan at first but the push maps in this tournament have been incredible
yeah
At first teams were getting rolled on push
but now they are making it closer as they get better at the game
imo if you have seen the outlaws vs shock
push map
at the end
I do wonder if it does need some changes though, still not sure why the defending team get a few seconds to recover once the other team reaches the checkpoint
you will see why that is fun 2 watch imo
2-2 again omg u srs
Florida v Fuel, Outlaws v Defiant, Outlaws v Shock - all absolute bangers for push
push spawns aren't that close until the very end of the map
dragons touched the first time because checkpoint time
the second time lip was just the fastest man alive
Iβm really not sure if I like that checkpoint wait time
Fleta and Void in
I feel like it always fucks people over
yeah that's the only reservation I have
Heroics from profit won them two maps and almost won them toronto
They need to shut him down to win this series
Not just heroics, thats copium
Profit just had the clutch factor to finish off an already l close game
almost finished it
Itβs not like he alone is the only reason they won
He's been getting value all series long
I'm saying shutting him down is the win con
not that he's the sole reason
the zarya comp 
Dragons need to win this submap to guarantee the third cause of possible lighthouse
Profit reaper ππππ
Idk what that ult usage was from Seoul
void plz
THE ZARYA COMP 
Just grav something
dva

Anything
even if it was just zoning still might have stalled enuf fir beat
Score?
how eat
smurf my boy
Profit 
profit is so sexy
@willow tartan I retract my previous statement
Thank you
Whew
LETS FUCKING GO
Seoul please ππ»
PROFIT AND FITS
omfg
Monka fucking W
profit getting 3 picks a fight
holy shit that was tight
lowkey I retract my statements
profit actually caries
profit is s tier
PLEASE BRO
profit is doing so much
no just tourney profit
it's all mental now
profit single handedly doing everything
lol true
Profit fr having his second best season now
Profit actually put the entirety of Seoul on his back that round
Tbf his reaper was shit in round 1
play off profit
God the clutch is great
SMURF REIN
But he has been arguably the best fdps in apac this season
MTD MTD
Imho
no
dude can u imagine how nervous the seoul crew is right now
yo ngl fleta is washed
ππ» ππ» ππ»
1 more
The Shanghai Dragons has the highest map 5 winrate in the league
GG SEOUL WIN
come on
SEOUL WIN
NO WAY
1 more fight probably
LIP
COME ON
LIP!!!
God I fucking love Profit
I love watching him simultaneously be the best and worst player in the lobby
BUG
YES
LET'S GO
Bug
GG
LETS GFO
GG
BIG
SEOUL WIN
SEOUL WINS
this is what i love to see
The Shanghai Dragons has the highest map 5 winrate in the league (still has)
omfggg
LMFAOO
it happened
Man
Holy shit
shock has the highest map 5 win rate on s5
GG
I don't want either team to get a title
Profit is the guy
YOOOOOO
That was a close fucking series
That was a fucking massive GG
I WANT FUSION TO LOSE
LETS GO
FINALLY
ONCE AGAIN
But i hope fusion win
How does profit have the biggest turnaround in a single map
that was such a good game
Profit clutched up big time
They ignore tracer to much lol
Great games
imagine shock and dragons both not making the finals
Also
Profit activated!
Shanghai did worse than Shock in the tourney what the fuck lmao
This series shows
Profit went from being ass cheeks to hard carry over one round
WOOOOOOOOOO
At least Shock got upper half
lmao
so wholesome
Shanghai didn't
profit is gonna make me cry
Ljg is not a top 3 MS
lmfao
so did shanghai?
SEOUL DYNASTY
Bro has been ASS
Profit man
no?
shanghai lost to philly in top
Shanghai finished 3rd out of 4th
I could kiss profit on the lips rn
This match man
Shock would get bullied by apac top teams
That beautiful man
Fucking bussin
LFG PROFIIIIIIIIIT
well there were only 4 teams
agree
still doesn't matter
Shock would not get bullied
your logic is flawed
Ngl i think shock could beat dragons
PROFIT DA FUCKIN GOAT


omg he's crying
The apac bias strikes again
dude I cant
Blessed moment
Fucking profit man
proper on a good day can run circles around dragons
Dragons needed to shut him down to win
it's not cause shanghai only won 1 game but lost 2 games in the playoffs, shock won 2 games and lost 2 games.
wins/losses tell you which team did better
Seoul finally beat Shanghai !?
Dragons on a good day 4-0's shock
true
they cant even sweep fixa aimgod backline!
FIRST TIME IN ALMOST 2 YEARS BABY
na has more games so ofcourse they would play more games
i lost it when i seen this tweet https://twitter.com/mmem1m/status/1533071586630193152 and then immediately seen that in chat π
what a fucking clutch
How does this affect the stock market 
ok so then by that logic shanghai have to win the same amount shock do to get 2nd
so why didn't they
I do not think it will change that much
Has Birdring retired?
Cause APAC is a harder region
Yes
Finally beat dragons
but shock came 4th in the na tourney, dragons came 3rd
^
If Hanbin doesn't get MVP this season I want it to be Profit
Subtract when Spark went from like 1 to .0001 overnight but sure
he's deserved it for SO long
Imagine being the only Korean team in the league for 5 years and not winning a single title
Seoul > Fusion
Don't choke >_<
bro i'm ngl
its hype
EITHER WAY
cause no team have gotten titles
no like
Seoul are winning. It's impossible for them to be inconsistent because they played against Shanghai first
They don't change how good they play in the same day
if it was old philly i would have said philly win
Itβs a great day to be a Seoul fan
Wow, no dragons?
but this new philly does nothing for me
If the finals were tomorrow Seoul could wet the bed and be shit on that day
so seoul for the win
but same day = seoul win
trueeee
TFW profit has to do it twice
No Context Profit getting cyber bullied irl
No matter who wins today it will be funny
How has Profit not been a season MVP yet
Happy for him, narrative is so good
seriously
Both teams omega clutch
but profit clutched at the end
profit too good
because london sandbagged in season 1
and too sexy
Dragons should have had Illios Lighthouse hands down
It was, gotta hand both of them the GG for that performance
Every other MVP is better than him and the season they won doesnβt matter bc Jjonak
Fleta didn't account for profit to play like that on lighthouse
profit is a clutch factor, he comes in clutch when you want him to lol
I want Hanbin to win it this year but if not surely Profit has to win it one year
And a convincing final round too
Jjonak was lethal s1
It was one play at the end of the map
I think he thought the game was over
its weird seeing shanghai not play a final
I'd say Kevster over Proper
good*
Also I will still draw attention to round 1 where profit held back Seoul quite a bit on the reaper
no i disagree
u put kevster on shock
shock dont finish top 4
lmao
just straight up wrong
This is actual pure cope
Kevster has been better than Proper this season, I'm sorry
just straight up wrong
Yeah never going to expect Teams to ever quit even when all that effort was put into securing the point. Lip was right there on tracer
if anyone from Shock should be MVP it's Finn
just straight up wrong x2
The difference was mere microseconds as he rolled out from spawn
Lmao
No no no no no no no no no no no
imo kevster wasn't able to carry patiphan on the reverse sweeps
so i dont think hes able to carry viol2t lucio and coluge monkey
Andy faster it could have been contested
Same thing happened on Toronto.
Goes both ways IG
Imo I feel like fleta copy to tracer was kinda bad I think he should have copied onto brig to help void and get ult quick or Ana for the anti nade
I don't care if super isn't playing, he should get it anyway
super mvp?
lmao
That push moment against Washington. Never forget
Oh yeah Kevin didnβt. Carry pati But itβs okay bc glads have you know actually made finals this stage hmmm
Surely this means something is happening 
Curious
How does that have anything to do with my point
Cope
seethe

oh wow!
he should be in MVP consideration
using stats!
Kevin clears Proper sorry your Shock brain is too feeble to comprehend your team not being the best on every role
facts ^
I need a drink
Anyways my post-loss copium is that dragons were this close with bad internet therefore good internet = win therefore bad internet = fake stage not real
sadly patiphan weighs kevin down less than viol2t lucio and coluge monkey
Impossible, nobody can beat the shock!

kevin persson, one of the three good EU players

?
what
fastro kai kevin hadi
that's 4
there's defo more
Oh my god I am ready for this matchup
I am incredibly ready to see fusion get 2nd place again
only good eu players
is kai not eu?
or do u dislike kai
imo ur kai hate is very unfounded
actually nvm i just remembered he got gapepd by sparkr
I told y'all dynasty would beat Shanghai
Kai is british. Britain left the EU in 2016 
Sparkr > kai
bru
yeah
So...Seoul 4-2 Fusion?
the United Kingdom became Brexit
if Profit keeps this form up idk how Fusion stop him
No they left Europe and have formed their own region
but is European
mn3 shoots his head off
? isnt europe a continent though
its always a coin flip if seoul is going to be good or not for the day
they look great today so i have hopes that they will win
cause if europe is a continent
We split it it in two
that means britain is in it
I'm pretty sure UK is europe just not european union
yea
thats what i thought as well
just like what memeicus said
so when i say EU i meant european
not playing from country that
is in the EU
cause EU is also the abbrev for european
fierce competition
Justice for profit
he's been near the best in the league for 5 years, the disrespect he gets
AVRL punched my monitor
Fine him
whos casting
sure there are a lot of worthy people for role star but Profit not even being role star for 1 year is a joke
the next match
Damn 15 mins
agree
let alone MVP
I'd like to see a tank player get MVP this season but if not, it has to be Profit
HANBIN SZN
Not sure, I'm hoping avrlios will be back
yeah I want Hanbin to win it
didn't realise how long the break was between the matches
I'm sure back-to-back matches last season were much quicker?
It's good that teams get a good break before the final
Need a moment to refresh, celebrate, plan, and get a good reset
Shanghai SMM: "After a loss like this, you might feel the urge to vent, yell or just get your frustrations off your chest. Please feel free to do so under these tweets. Letting it out will help you more than you know. But please be kind to our players. Just know that as bad as you might feel, they feel just as bad if not worse. The players and coaches worked tirelessly under the conditions they had in order to make our fans proud. If you see their tweets, do what you can to lift them up. Something as simple as cheering them on or letting them know that you're all still behind them goes a much longer way than you might think. Your words have and will always give them strength. Your support might just be the reason we lift even more trophies this year and it'll be even sweeter if you know you helped, even in the tiniest of ways π₯°"
Well said words
incredibly based
that's class
Yea dont bully the players bully the SMM instead
people in general could learn a lot from that message...
There's no reason to talk down about or to the SHD, they're great and could well have won this kickoff clash
yeah
dont bully anyone they dont deserve the hate
agreed!
Either Shanghai or Seoul was going to destroy fusion
the smm deserves the hate!
some people just get too riled up
they get paid enough to handle it!
no >:( shd suck and their players suck they should all be fired forever >:((((((((((
damn someone on social media that acknowledges that people have frustrations that they like to vent
yeah if ur willingly working a job in oscial media ur kinda accepting to get flamed for money
Let's just enjoy philly dropping the spaghetti
again
man this is hard for me
facts
agree
I was never a seoul fan but seeing Profit's reaction idk
4-1? 4-0?
and belosrea
might have to see seoul win
will throw
could also see carpe actually win something for once
shame one of Profit/Carpe is going to have to lose π¦
4-2 imo
the 2 OGs
4-2
I am not a seoul fan or a philly fan. I am a "don't let carpe win a title and have him be the only good player without one" fan
that's just mean
toxic
I'm not a fan of anyone
I just like to see good gameplay
pain.
no, it's not
It is funny tbf
time to go cyberbully the smm and publicly state that whoru is the best genji in the multiverse over a two minute span
but if he wins a title he'll just be one of the other many great players who won
you dont find it funny that carpe's been playing at A/S level for 5 years and hasnt won a title?
that's funny
its funny but at the same time carpe deserve to win one atleast
"stfu cope seethe"
imagine taking joy in someone's pain after trying for so long
im not taking joy in their pain
im taking joy in the circumstance
its not laughing at them, its laughing at their situation
how is that not the same thing?
???
just as how i explained
sadist??
gg seoul won the kickoff clash
next tourny new patch
Philly will win a title when carpe leaves/retires
hopefully more new content
You guys said Shanghai would destroy them π
yes
Soldier won't be so op
another one makes the list
thighs meta π
π
I hope 2020 regular season is on here?
2022-06-5 2nd S Tier
PH8LLY GOT 2ND
cant wait for the sparta kick patch
doubt
they were 2nd
that's july 5
? june
No?
2020-07-05
Dw it's a Washington fan π
yes
as 2020-06-5
Donβt worry Shock is just adding more 4th places to last season π
and thought you were saying this day in history fusion 2nd place @willow drum
nah ur good
cope
but yes fusion adding 6/5 2022 to their 2nd place
resume
eaten nothing but pizza and seafood in the lead up to this match
Sushi π
for the first time, an APAC team that's not China is going to win a tournament
Philly gonna do Philly things and get slammed
A title they can call their own
daily reminder that the los angeles valiant made the nyxl a june joust top 4 team
kek
both teams kicked shanghai in the gutter when it mattered most
more like grilled prawns, fried shrimp and karrage
not the first time, london was an apac team not from china
plus the pizza was for a bday and I'm still finishing those as leftovers
praying seoul wins
Fried shrimp even better π
so the 2nd place continues
agreed
so for the whole of 2020 you could say london is the non-chinese apac team with a title
Happy belated birthday
you know it
π€
not my birthtday it's a streamer friend
Oh
(Ian)
also karaoke night finished a few mins ago, so my voice is slightly bonkered
nah lets just root
out with you, Ian is a lover not a friend
ian has no romantic partner
so you are lying
they just got together
playoff profits and smurf bouta roll π
Who went want then boys
alright well whose joining vc
Seoul or Philly
Ian will never have a romantic partner
If only we could see Seoul dynasty vs LA gladiators
Im still stuckin my bed
Seoul on top πͺ
have to go to church in an hour BibleThump
same
philly gonna get ultra nervous
on god
Playoff profits here, philly shaking
and smurf
5 years without titles, fuck
smh my head
yikes
mashallah*
wait seoul doesnt have a title right?
inshallah
Fr??
that's "as Allah wills"
unless runnerup is a title
???
its the only one I know
mashallah is showing respect for someone or something under the guide of Allah
is the tl;dr
and can spell
fusion will lose inshallah @willow drum
I want none of these teams to win
π
I hate your dog
mashallah u would be correct
Gladiators and Seoul πͺπͺ
Yes I am rooting for them
Iβm talking about APAC
I donβt want Seoul or Philly to win
ok well if philly wins they break the 2nd place curse so root for seoul cause its a funnier ending
who were u rooting for
@frosty patrol you better be praying to jesus philly wins to make @hot onyx mald
Who can seoul sub in?
@slate siren
Philly comeback would be insane
stalker
Seoul earned the W here but I'm more looking forward to a Carpe's 4 year late grudge match against Profit
imagine if seoul had jjonak still
No. Philly lose. It funny
holy shit
smurf: 5-3 in title matches
fits: 0-2
profit: 2-2
vindaim: 0-0
creative: 0-1
full team: 7-8
do phillys pepelaugh
Thereβs no universe where Belosrea FiXa Aimgod beat Smurf Vindaim Creative when it matters
what is philly
boosted
carpe starting
omg
Carpe 0-4
Fury 2-2
Aimgod 0-1 everyone else 0
belosrea starting right
carpe carrying philly
but yes fury 2-2
St3lker is also 0-0
just in the opposite directin
What title match was aimgod in
2-5 vs 2-7
has philly faced seoul before in this stage
Yes
ah i forgor his loss
i forgot all the times smurf has lost in title matches
Im assuming it was stage 3 vs nyxl I could be wring
i erase it from my memory
lmaoo
pause π
How long do you guys think this will go for?
4 hrs
Glads
Reiner 0-0
Space 2-0
Ans 3-0
Pati 0-0
Kevster 1-0
FunnyAstro 0-2
Shu 2-0
Skewed 1-0
fastro reverse carrying
9-2 overall
thats called
I gotta go in 20 mins >_<
throwing
Belosrea gone
rip
glads 9-2 but only losses are fastro
Wheres Belosera
Man's a ghost
glads op plz nerf
WHY IS THIS CLOSE
vindaim does not look at his normal level
LMAO
BELOSREA
@hot onyx DID U SEE
HE DIVED INTO THE GRAV
u seem him shift
into the grva lmao
and try to e block laser
tracer not finding crazy value on this map
Belosrea coating them the round as usual
||yeet vindaim||
vindaim sent to london
distant Hadi noises
agree
yeah but then all the lucios in ranked try to recreate
I am that lucio
its so fun
HOO
ngl that mei ult was odd\
lets go!
arise reformed philly king
HOW EXCITING
carpe gets the most insane stick on fits
did not happen
indeed
LETS GOOOO
lemme remind u
this same result happened in 2020 summer showdown
not a single forehead in sight
Imagine if Aimgod didnβt die first every fight
first round
the thing is, neither teams are red, so who really loses here
the orange team
the orange team does lose
Fusion loses
the team without an asian name
would have been awkward if memecius preferred fusion > seoul
nah i think fusion havent won against a tough opponent
their win against spark was when spark wasnt in form
philly bringing it home
they're like APAC shock


charge's org stonks go up if philly wins this match with J1N and Chara's coaching
this is hybrid
besdies this one
Jimmy: Come sit on my lap, Iβm streaming.
Jimmy: Uhβ¦
Farway: Are some people jealous?
Jimmy: Uhβ¦
Farway: Are they jealous?
Jimmy: So comfy. [Farway makes kissing sounds.] But my legs hurt. [Farway leaves.]
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Can anyone explain what the "midtown incident" was with fusion? I'm new to OWL, a caster just mentioned it
oh god rolled
sniper monkle
they played rein on midtown and went badly
Ahh ok ty folks
What team was it that had a coach pinch their nipples behind a player camera
NoHill
is their a recording lmao
fits has mn3's number holy
So I see Phillys map choice has gone well
very
jeez philly is getting shit on
classic apac
belosrea getting omega gapped by smurf
this
what is this open division team doing in owl
its over
Whoever was in charge of the signings
fixa kekw
And never in charge of a professional Overwatch signing ever again
Fury Belosrea FiXa over Clestyn Sado Sanguinar
no
everyone else yeah...
Fury is not good
fury's dva in 6v6 is good
imo after fury went to wash justice
He has not had an above average performance this season
he broke
fair enough i havent been watching apac closely besides my team
If sado was picked up he would still get gapped and sans would still shit on fusion MT
if clestyn got gapped it would be the same
Not really
I would not advocate for any other korean main tank other than Sado available on Fusion
Look at sado s3 backline versus current fusion backline
Clestyn would at least be 3rd in apac ots
Junbin is like 16 right?
Sado is more mechanically talented than Belosrea and doesnβt feed as often
Would Yaho be better than Belosrea?
He'd still look bad IMO
Or more feeding
yes
at this point yes yaho would be better
Yes
ok but imo
But he has the skill to feed
yaho is good at getting carried
Belosrea is not a talented player
fax actually
would prob take both
Attack underage I think
oh sadge
i think he 17
but Kane on zar
Probably yeah
Sick
Iβd take Attack Max F4ZE Clestyn
What are the numbers on the players? E.g. Aimgod 99. Is it just a jersey number like traditional sports? Does it mean anything?
jersey
Jersey number
Someone and Kellan but theyβre both taken
Ty
Amigod 99 (99 wives) [jigachad]
MT for o2
yes junbin
Iβm honestly tired of people who know nothing about professional Overwatch saying that Sado was not above average last season
And that he would not be an upgrade over Belosrea
He wouldβve been top 3 mt
No
Smurf Fate Sado GA9A Guxue
He would
would look ass
Because heβs mechanically good
Oh shit wait i didnt watch dallas vs shock yestercat
Not to mention no coach
don't
they got beamed
Was that it?
Did anyone go god mode
hanbin zarya
Ok makes sense
no, it was just composition diff
shock couldnt counter zarya well enough
they just got murdered
if i was zest
i would have tried to stuck the recall
agree
profit needs 2 go down
damn this
is not clkose
Wow fits
He wants to be done quickly
Put me in charge of this team
sado on fusion would just kill backline with zest and mn3
zest cant do more
Belosrea should not be in the league
He is actually worse than Rio
Feeding shitter without mechanical skill
They only got 1 point all around π
@hot onyx coach whenever you become coach of fusion
why are they trying to mirror winton into smurf
Bruh this is a GG
i can do better than belosrea
Zest has to carry so hard rn
It's not even fair. They're starting the match already warmed up
straight up cope
Philly will win 4-3 in a reverse sweep
What role
@hot onyx I am sorry for your loss
God I wish both teams had their top tier flex supports
wheres fury
aimgod creative looking mighty average
fury isn't that big an upgrade over belosrea unfortunately
the whole team sucks but the dps
also seeing how unwilling philly is to play fury they probs havent practiced zarya much if at all
Dynasty is coming in off a map 5 win. They're already juiced up. It's a GG
dynasty are the only team to be 7 map reverse swept in owl
Fury is more likely to match Smurf zarya than Belosrea is to match Smurf winston

π³