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Ball
yes he played S3
leejaegon tower
Hold up hold up ball is playable?
nvm that was the goat wekeed
Was about to scream ILLEGAL
@hot onyx u see that belosrea
So if ball is playable why no counter doom with him?
cause teams are bad at ball
To be fair teams have been bad at ball ever since he was created
Minus i guess chengdu
wekeed gambler and esca, the true legends of seoul @hot onyx
Hunters?
Wait whoru is playing something else than genji
Yooo
If i was a coach i would be trying to see how i can use ball as the main tank since u can play split and collaspe
whoru is flexible
Lmao 2
Fusion actually trolling
whoru is just better sparkle
Belosrea should not be in Overwatch League
sombra reaper pharah tracer genji doom mei, whoru the hyperflex
Hes know for genji but he can play dps
damn its control centre
rip spark
Sparkle has a better Doom, Tracer, Pharah, Sym - Genji is fairly even: Apart from Mei who else is Whoru better at?
How can you know what sparkle is better at if whoru hasnt played any of those heroes
Give me the whoru reaper genji mei sombra
I'll give you that
Whoru’s sombra is passble
by a full tier
But u have lip so
whoru is the best in the league at the japanese cyborg so far
sparkle's sombra is also passable
but
whoru slightly better
Nice sleep
a better tracer than sparkle!
Feels like he been feeding quite a bit this tournament
leejaegon's internet is feeding
how can you wallride perfectly in a dodging pattern to infiltrate their backline on ping
still does it better than viol2t
that's 2 be expected
exactly
which is why shck should have signed a ms player
than viol2t off role
no im saying that viol2t is ass
then that is low standards
at lucio yes
@hot onyx hey look the philly fusion are getting quite close to a championship match 
not enough to go all the way IMO
but against high teams will strug
i agree
fate zarya
this is shocks yera to uh
is good
whoru has played tracer/mei this whole map
another map 5 win? @willow tartan
dragons are actually trolling
real ones remember gargoyle hog fate zarya tank line
real
Fusion gaming ngl
damn shd losing liyjang
Did dragons forget whoru has a great genji
shd trolling fr
coach moon giving fusion fans fake hope
imagine losing to the fixa aimgod backline
And that shg can play Winston
Ngl leegon doesn't really feel like a top tier Ms he been getting picked quite a bit and for some reasons always in the enemy crosshair
best dps line fusion has ever seen*
Philly win this
fixa aimgod
Gg

They got comp countered like 2 times
he learned from viol2t!
It’s separates men from the boys
Men can perform at a top 5 level
With utter dogshit holding them back
Boys will be backstreet
???
Whoru didn't have his camera on
No one has their camera on
what a pro move from ZEST
they keep trade
guys?
Lip that was horrible ult
Who won last night between outluls and defiant?
i jinxed it
purposeful trolling
i helped u @willow tartan
if i didnt say that leejaegon would have fed himself off the map
ic these alternatie timelines
Izay hit a nade
they beated
No I mean I haven't seen him hit a nade in a while
ljg and izayaki wow
LIP
now whoru needs to switch if the dragons want to win
Aimgod hit a sleep dart on a target that is so obviously about to ult challenge
(Impossible)
he used it?
Oh did he
he definitely used it
lip is never ulting like that if sleep is online
Nah they use there only survival ult dragons was going for a kill
But fate overextended and I don't think izay hit a nade
Fate taking leejag lessons
fate..
whoru best genji in the multiverse
what would shd do without whoru man
Why is fate overextending so much
huge collapse
LOL
an attempt was made
Fate keeps getting nade
wait who won spark vs seoul
seoul
what was the score
sweep
oh thank god
Feta is ass
shanghai dragons have the highest map 5 winrate in the league
shanghai dragons making map five
seems kind of unlikely
how do fusion
if they swap fate they have a chance
ZEST IS THE BEST
Lmaoooo
Genji is doing good
“I put ZEST in the same league as Lip” -nan
i checked through all universes
Fate is the problem
i need you to not lose
Seoul won??? Let's goooo
BRING IN VOID!
That map was all on fate
i trusted in shd
He kept feeding
they were playing troll comps
Nah
They played a good comp there very good at
barely capped A
Fate just sucked ass
This entire series is “DPS Deadlift: The Musical”
That's not too uncommon
Exactly the only change was reaper
Yeah
Lip WhoRU MN3 and ZEST cannot do more
Genji is great on eichenwald
No matter the outcome of this game Philly aren’t winning finals 
Lip can switch off reaper
remove all the other players make it 2v2
Lip just has to carry way too much
Very very true Mr Fan #2
i mean we all knew that
fusion winning a title is so far beyond what my mind considers to be real that im not even thinking about it
Apac
Lmaoooo
aslong as shd brings in void they have a chance to reverse sweep
Seoul 1
Philly 2
Shg 3
or fate needs to get his shit together
Shanghai Dragons have the highest Map 5 Winrate in the League
Huh
To me Fusion winning is not a possibility until they get a support line that’s on the same level of skill as their dps
Seoul just looks better overall then shg.imo
Seoul not winning isn't a possibility either
There playing to there strength
Seoul gonna win it all I bet
Ya I'm betting on that
Good one
The lost to dragons was a close match tho
HUH???
if fate continues what he did last map
HADI??
then the dragons have no chance
it's not even the lower final today?
yeah but somehow
this is winner's final
it's lower QF and semis
Someone really guessed Mayham beats fuel 🤣🤣🤣
yes i know
but hadi voted against sf
shock
that means sf dont win
very unfortunate
how hard can LIP carry
they are not
they are predicting that houston
makes it to grand finals
which imo is bit of fan behavior
well the majority went for Fuel
as much as id want that to happen
except for Chadi
it wont
I think it'll be Fuel v Glads
no way
belosrea
fixa
and aimgod
are beating their respective
fell off
players
ok nice blade zest
trolled
yeah shd
lose
lmao
fusion have rally
gg @willow tartan
hope u win in the losers bracket
what if they don't get map 5
what if they lose here
on map 3
LIP is going to one clip
LMAo did u see that?
EZ
zest absolute shat on lip
capped
lmao k
Shanghai Dragons highest map 5 winrate
but of course whoru putting in the work
Honestly I was hoping shg would get eliminated since it give them time till they get there internet fix
how is aimgod
what would shd do without whoru.
izayaki is just not going for antis for whatever reason
Izay his nades?
mn3 clean
@cloud latchzest did a levi havana nanoblade
yeah
ive not seen very many attempts
very dumb imo
memeicus if shanghai never win a map versus fusion how depressed will you be
wont happen
dont you know that the shanghai dragons have the highest map 5 winrate in the league?
what about map 3 win rate
im believing
Because they get 3-0 before going to map 5?
trust in coach moon
ok!
my apac preds were going so well too.
Coach moon is still good they just need better internet
I mean they can't even scrim without lag
LIP is going to kill 9
the issue with moon is
2/9
we seeing it
he has a history of doing very very sus things
so does crusty
like running stand1 rein/orisa for the first 3 maps may melee 2020
and running the kuki lucio
That just shows you how good pings are
whoru???
don't forget Numerous Kariv experiments
..
???
no way
wait ur team is actually gonna get swept by fusion @willow tartan
np
WHO PREDICTED 3-0 FUSION
could fusion's first title be with their worst backline since 2018 
FUSION GONNA WIN
LITERALLY THO
IS APAC THAT SHIT
gg
ur team is bad
the shanghai dragons have the highest map 5 winrate in the league
WHORU
i feel so bad for him
gg
What are dragons doing??
no way
izayaki done
izayaki dies w nano
Whoru your gonna break your wrist
WHORU DOWN
whoru is the best genji in the multiverse
whoru is carrying the dragons
whoru dead
whoru cannot do more
the shanghai dragons still have the highest map 5 winrate in the league
MN3-0
@willow tartan at least whoru is the best genji in the multiverse
uh oh
i agree
its true
Ah yea circle of suck effect in full swing
like they're literally just shit
🤣🤣
fate and izayaki are fucking trolling
yea idk what they were doing whatsoever
Hey everybody
and leejaegon is feeding half the time
in NA we saw just as much lunacy
9 map win streak vs Dragons
you ready for fusion to win kickoff clash?
"top team" san francisco shock 3-1'd by reign
fate's the shotcaller
nobody say anything good about fusion 🙏
what the hell man .
ok yes
agree
keep doubt fusion
Fuck no lmao
they will prove us wrong
void has played before
so then @ coach moon
seoul arent even gonna go to the finals
I could Seoul beating shg tbh
if shanghai show another terrible preformance
yes
See*
they will
they wont
i have completely underestimated fusion
lip + best genji in the multiverse might outweigh lip + fleta
this whole season is going to be incredibly competitive
imo izayaki
is just shit
feels like no-one is going to dominate
they were playing whoru exclusively on mei tracer on map 1
idk if you saw that
Im pretty sure this is a complete bracket bust
they actually trolled first two maps
I had Dragons losing in the upper bracket final but against Spark
Ya agreed
0-42verwatch coming back???
they just don't know what they're fucking doing man
we just need a zen ball meta
FIXA!?
ez wins for shd
fate high B izayaki mid A imo
did they give him potm cus of his single kill on ljg lmao
he still has the best zen in the multiverse
so then yeah we have them the same ish
i have full faith in shanghai dragons to clutch up the victory tomorrow.
i have no fear.
at this rate
okay!
ive lost most of my hope for shd
Man your jokes are on point today
maybe shd would win.... if they had/were fearless @willow tartan
midless
and ive completely underestimated fusion
rough start for shd but i have faith they can bring it back, if not this tournament, maybe a future one
even though im a supporter of seoul i'm 50/50 on them going to finals
smurf overwatch
NA is going to be crazy later
In 1000/50 on it
who do you guys think makes grand finals in NA
i wouldnt be surprised either
Glads gf 💪💪
Shanghai dragons feeling nervous as they enter the grand finals, they're soon down three maps. When all hope is lost, a knock on the door is heard. T-Mobile saves the day as they install internet so fast that the dragons can see into the future. The Shanghai Dragons complete the reverse sweep and are crowned kickoff clash champions.
glads/dallas
I still think seoul is a coin flip if they win or not
yeah I agree, I want to see that rematch
Los Angeles Dadiators are gonna win it all 💪💪
i wanted sfs vs dallas but shock got overwhelmed and folded and ruined my pickems
it could still happen as the last match tonight
if Fuel and Shock both win
Same I had shock beating gladiators in winners finals then gladiators winning grand finals
true
what do u guys think abt the shock game
shock suck
i think coluge got a little too big for his pants and started to ego pick really hard
if Shock play like yesterday, I can see Houston winning
Dallas actually played well against Glads but got outplayed at the end
Shock seems like an online team
onliners ikr
who knows though, maybe ill get what i want
FiXa dying first multiple fights and uses his sound barriers on time like a normal player and it’s a POTM moment
we still have the rest of today and tomorrow to find out
I do wonder how much of a factor home advantage might be for Fuel if they make it to grand finals, considering they'd have just played lower bracket final immediately before
Compared to his previous performances it is an MVP-level improvement
Good point
Either they'll be fatigued or they'll be warmed up - could work both ways
Fuel outlaws rematch in losers finals 👀👀
pretty sure there were a few times last season the team that played back-to-back matches actually won right?
Didn't Reign win back-to-back matches in playoffs as well to make grand final?
against Shock and Fuel?
yes
so whoever makes grand final from lower bracket might have momentum
when dragons did it though it was a sweep vs atlanta so its not like they just played a clutch map 5 series beforehand
Did you see the fusion vs dragons match that just happened?
yes i watch the overwatch league
i think there might be a fine line where if you end the first match quickly it's an advantage but if it drags on it's a disadvantage
since you could be potentially playing 10+ maps of overwatch back to back
Reign won 2 back-to-back series 3-1
so they weren't even particularly short series
then they would have been close
agree
idk why its so common in esports in general to just not have close finals
like didnt league not have a close worlds final until 2021?
and theyve been playing for 10 years
2020 was the best for that
feel like this year is different due to how much closer the teams seem to be
the only esport i know that's consistently had close finals throughout its existence is csgo
CS in general really
like no team this year feels like they're going to dominate
CS:GO is a lowkey fav of mine
but with so many years of play you're bound to have close finals
cause of how competitive it is
yeah
CS has an incredible amount of variance
i feel like CS is a game that you can't dominate as much in if you're good since at the end of the day it boils down to who's on fire
Please don’t loose tomorrow phily
as compared to a game like OW
As much as I hate playing csgo I love watching the esport, and I especially love that they integrated the replay viewer directly into the game so you can spectate whoever you want while watching the stream
Does the winner of losers finals have to beat Philly in 2 sets in a row?
pickems integrated directly into the game
of course there's been dominant CS teams but astralis and fnatic are the only CSGO teams to have claimed back to back majors
there's no bracket reset
Wow
CSGO is so good cause it's over all very fair, I just hate how sometimes I cross a corner and get one tapped instantly but that's just skill issue kekw
a lot of the pros are unbelievably good in the game
💀
something ow needs to have
i think the csgo esports is prob the best
out of all of em
its just the t2 scene in ow
so bad man
i enjoy CSGO esports the most yes
unbelievable
like imo its most competitive
most organized
most entertaining
yeah
i am also a pea brain that cant watch league
because i appreciate the FPS shoot and click
and the funny flicks
i mean league is pretty simple
see you all later for NA
just booom boom flashy colors and one team dies
I only watch owl and siege
you know how in overwatch you need to know how 30 different heroes all interact with eachother with abilities and ult combinations and shit like that to make up so many different team comps in the game?
that sums up
overwatch
and valorant
as well
idk how league is so big
they only play like 30 of them tho
That's a lot of champions holy
it's like 12 years old and free
and can run on a potato
and what other moba would you play
dota 2 is like league except nobody plays it for fun
Ig I'm outside of the whole moba genre since I never got into it or consumed any moba content
I don't see the appeal, have always seen fps games more appealing to play and watch
agree
the characters are hot
is that it
yes that is what i want out of a video game
monke see monke doo
Booba idk I’m not a moba player
FPS > RPG > MOBA
those are ranking game types I like
hmm sounds familiar
that was overwatch circa late 2018 to late 2019
if only they made one
what does moba even mean
multiplayer online battle arena
Isn't that all games
Fps moba battleborn
That a arena shooter
what makes ow not a moba
i mean realistically people consider a game a moba when you have like lane based combat and objectives with some sort of shop system or whatever
its not in an arena
a map
an arena is like a place made to fight in
It just like a circle nap
the streets of london is not made to fight in
Map*
yes
god.
anyways its quite unfortunate that battleborn died so fast
it had potential
devs are suck
Split gate is a arena shooter
Match 5 APAC is Dynasty v Dragons right?
splitgate was a fun game without much potential imo
splitgate was fun until i hit a rank where i got shit on
Lmao
I feel like Dragons will win the torny
they will
Dragons win against Dynasty then against Fusion in a close match
cause if the scriptwriters love anything
it's Fusion being Second place
because the fusion curse never ends
the script writers also love seoul vs shanghai matchups
this is going to be the third time in two weeks
watching the match and read the reddit thread, for Dynasty v Spark match
so many people said Changgoon was throwing pretty much
I remember that game. My dad bought me that when I asked for overwatch a few years ago
rolled
Guxue*
Smurf over Goosh would be nuts
when I think of Dynasty bad choices I think Changgoon so I guess I got mixed up
all due to philly
Mine are boomed because Spark decided to pull a June Joust 2021™️ and play off meta when it mattered
mine are boomed because after trusting philly 3 games and getting burned the one time i dont they do well
In fairness I had Dragons losing upper bracket final but I had it 3-2 against Spark LOL
i was burned three games straight against the fusion
how is your NA looking
mine is dallas v glads
grand final?
yeah
what score?
4-2 fuel
yeah I had 4-2 Fuel against Shock
i went for a spicy pick
you think it will be Fuel v Glads still?
i predicted atlanta fuel finals
(fuel wins)
So for Fuel to make grand finals, they need to beat Florida, Shock/Outlaws (today) and then Reign/Glads tomorrow and then play the grand finals straight after
man that's a tough run
fuel goes through losers
home crowd advantage
you think they will?
yes
yeah I think the crowd will play a big part
its still possible
especially if they get to grand final
losers run just like the shanghai dragons
just hard
even playing back to back matches, if they get through lower bracket they'll have momentum
even if they're fatigued
would a tired (but hot) Fuel be able to beat a refreshed Reign/Glads, idk
more like skill
what rank
its plat
ah
were there any really sus shots?
cld be just smurf
they were 5 stars
at that level? Seems unlikely
and claimed their main was 3100
without seeing footage it's hard to say
none of their shots were sus imo
I'm still getting over that pelican win last night
i mean cheating is prtty common up there
yet
there is a haker
just not caught monka
Apparently there was a underage scandal
Where someone pretty much lied about there age
To get into owl
Or something
Source is sideshow so don't believe it lol
Just a q, since Fusion is undefeated in the Grand Finals does that mean they have protection? Like they would have to lose 2 series in the finals to actually go out?
spark suck
shock suck
The final for the kickoff clash is a best of 7 fusion need to beat the winners of the losers brscket to claim victory for the kickoff clash in the east
They get the advantage of not having to play two series in a row
Dallas Fuel vs Florida Mayhem is gonna be a banger
yes
you suck
I want a live replay of the MN3 triple headshot on Gibraltar
Is Winston owl skin is for the finals?
For watching 5 hours across all 4 days of the Kickoff Clash, doesn't need to be the finals
Didn't they have his skin already?
can't remember
Thought it was last year lol
you should have it if you maybe paid for the All-Access Pass when it was around on Twitch
not the OWL skin
might be thinking of the contenders one?
L
Ya maybe
Spark SUCK
I need to check I like collecting the owl skins
Dragons suck (true)
I am still holding onto my Spark stocks
fine like the crack in memecius' mental
boomed from winners
now has to take down everyone again with even more effort/strain than before
Photoshop
whoever denied aimgod because he'll never be alarm is correct
he will put honour to his name
Aim “premature sleep dart miss” god
@cedar oasis audio being weird hold on
Shock
lan?
Shut up
apac I'm just boomed
i predicted td
i hate doom tank
and also my love
for finale muze
it works against bad teams
But they didn't
Shut up
They won that map
man I really don't like the genji/zar over the reaper/zar here
They almost didn't
Imho
agree
I agree
So
On that statement
Moose > piggy > gator
Ok
On reinguy
Imho happy kind of mid on legs
Imo that is copium
agree, better on teh hard HS
It isn’t
what is with genjis and burning dash before they have a kill during blade
I don't get it
who was it yesterday that I was thinking was better than sparkle
if they don't expect the first slash to kill why dash first thing
why not hold dash and just slash at first
interesting that s76 has so much playtime now .. WHERE IS AKM's COMEBAQ ????
So the dash kills them?
Lol
No ot
To mark
but it doesn't
Gim
what?
instead of just slashing
checkmate
that's the guy
honestly rating him higher than sparkle rn
i think those genjis don't mind the dash as much as going for the targets their team are focusing on
dash makes blade so much more of a threat
as long as you have it up you have your burst combo and can dash to switch targets
but they aren't
which is why they aren't dying
blading and dashing when they don't need to
🤦🏾♂️
checkmate's blades on gib actually were intelligent
and didn't just offer free chances to shut them down
i think those owl players aren't really much of a genji main player .. like whoru and so on
and then I see sparkle going for the same blade setup every time and then getting slept out of it because no fucking shit
sparkle is very much a genji player
which is why I'm so disappointed in him this szn
but yeah most players who're on the genji aren't actually genji specialists
PROFIIIIIIIIIT
there arent much zaryas in ow2 owl.. bernar .. and ehm? .. i mostly saw monke
apac has been really liking the zarya
smurf was also playing the zar on attack
the canada push map is typically mirror zar in apac
well zar is a great tank 🙂
the italian push map is also trending towards mirror zar, now with hanzo as a counterstrat to the zar
she's fine when charged
I just don't think teams have fully figured out how to play around them and draw them out
I think
Pro overwatch league players know how to play genji better than armchair analysts
armchair .. like all those pro players dont have armchairs? 😄
what a douche statement
Untrue
so when I watch a genji prime a blade like shit, then have to burn dash to get to his targets, then gets booped and everyone runs away and he ends up swinging at air for 6s instead of just dashing more at an angle and being able to wallclimb up without burning dash
that must have been the correct play
since he is the professional player
Wait do some players not have arm on there chairs?
and when I watch another genji take those steps when blading and find 3 kills for it, the two genjis must still be of equal skill, because they both are pro genji players
I don't, my arms are too long so for my setup to be comfortable I have to remove the armrests so I can raise my chair high enough
Why would you not dash first? Its get reset after hitting blade
because if you can't secure the kill then you lose your dash
normally saving dash for last second until all cds are used
which means you're piss easy to shut down
Has titans even signed a new coach yet?
- overwhelmingly likely before the announcement
- not publicly
Well rumors it depi
yeah
#fusion2ndplaceagain
fusion better get second
It will be comical
Also they better sub carpe in for the final map
if they win
Fusion sweep hahaha


