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errant hornet
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imo

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the times I've actually liked the zarya is when you have one person pressure a split group with the bubble so they're forced to either shoot the bubble or leave, and can't counterdive well since you have the 2nd bubble in your pocket, OR when you can repeatedly peek and dip behind cover without worrying about getting hunted down and killed

balmy wolf
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much more forgiving hero

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so yeah

willow drum
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hanbin did

forest token
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but, the 1st doesn't work against a rush and the 2nd is map dependent

willow drum
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died

slate siren
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Which game did patiphan leave overwatch for

forest token
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valorant

slate siren
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Valorant?

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ok

solar trout
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kevster walked into fielder oof

forest token
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got to either quarters or semis at masters

errant hornet
north relic
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that was hot

errant hornet
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Like I feel like valorant should surley be better ig?

north relic
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those shots werent easy

errant hornet
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maybe he just liked ow a lot more ig

forest token
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less fun

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slower

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also overwatch players stay winning in val

errant hornet
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depends on who you ask tbf

forest token
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ngl

errant hornet
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most people would disagree with you

forest token
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derrek, saya, pati was also a nutcase when he was playing

errant hornet
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cause Valorant esport is 5x larger than OW rn

balmy wolf
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this crowd aint helping

errant hornet
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not even close

forest token
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saya's fucking monstrous atm

frosty patrol
forest token
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well, not since the guard cooled off but the lan quals

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ho ly

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like see

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hanbin has to decide whether he bubbles for himself or bubbles to block the shatter on fielder

frosty patrol
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reminder that swathes more Chinese people flock to owl broadcasts than they do to Valorant ones

forest token
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that's the kind of choice that kills zar comps

willow drum
balmy wolf
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ok that shu kill kinda clean doe

frosty patrol
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so viewership diff isn’t as big as it seems

raw ermine
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wtf did ATL do

forest token
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won

frosty patrol
forest token
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shock trolled

raw ermine
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ffs

brave zenith
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fuel looking so good on offense

forest token
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almost reverse swept

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which is fucking insane

north relic
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the ult cycle is online

errant hornet
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idk

mortal cipher
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they beat sbhock

errant hornet
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owl has pot just needs a bit of a restructure imo

cedar oasis
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mtd

willow drum
errant hornet
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I love ow esports to watch but idk

frosty patrol
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All of East Asia except Japan simps Blizzard esports

willow drum
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on this match

errant hornet
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and valorant can be fun to watch

brave zenith
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reiner

willow drum
brave zenith
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LOL

frosty patrol
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Japan simps Nintendo esports

forest token
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????????????????????????????

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reiner???????

balmy wolf
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dallas have entered the flow state

forest token
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???????????????????????????????????????????

ebon aurora
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3:34, man that's quick

brave zenith
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fuel rolled glads there

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jesus

ebon aurora
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this match is SO good

errant hornet
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I honestly love watching the non-miror matches so much more

ebon aurora
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feels like this might be the finals

errant hornet
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teh differing playstyles feels more enjoyable to me

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than any mirror

brave zenith
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fuel could have not played that any better honestly

balmy wolf
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I mean

errant hornet
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aside from maybe winton dive

mortal cipher
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thats wot i have for the finals

forest token
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idk

balmy wolf
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neither team can mirror lol

forest token
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teams are still not prepped yet

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so we still see some absolute buffoonery come out

errant hornet
balmy wolf
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dallas will shit on glads on zar, glads will shit on hanbin on rein

errant hornet
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Like seeing the strengths and weaknesses of each comps going against eachother is fun

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tbh

balmy wolf
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agree

ebon aurora
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Dallas still have Fearless if they want to play rush

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don't forget they basically created the sym mei rush last season

errant hornet
mortal cipher
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dallas and shanghai basically created metas last year

brave zenith
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reiner swinging at air

balmy wolf
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dallas last year was magical

forest token
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I think

balmy wolf
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insane team

forest token
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the zar comp is easier to run

errant hornet
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boostio

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like

errant hornet
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wow

forest token
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the dallas dives early on

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were some fucking ass

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hoooly fuck

errant hornet
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easier? I mean not really lol

forest token
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I'd never seen a team with that much talent shit the bed so hard

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easier as in you don't have to have the same level of prepwork

errant hornet
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eh kinda

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its not enough for me to think that

cedar oasis
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c9

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c9

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lll

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l

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l

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c9

errant hornet
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zarya is soo much easier

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its that relevant

brave zenith
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LOL

balmy wolf
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gg

errant hornet
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its prob just that the zar plays into the strength of Dallas realyl well

balmy wolf
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1-1

errant hornet
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as in

ebon aurora
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if it's so easy how come dallas seem to be the only team that can run it

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properly

errant hornet
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Hanbin boddies everyone else on zarya

forest token
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I mean

balmy wolf
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because hanbin is a nutcase

ebon aurora
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sure but you still need great coordination

errant hornet
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like he consistently plays

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pretty perfect

forest token
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they have fearless sparkle

errant hornet
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yeah

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but also edison is by far best on reaper

forest token
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if you have players of that caliber shitting the bed like that it's a staff issue

errant hornet
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and zarya enables that the best

ebon aurora
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assuming Fuel win this map, where do Glads take Fuel

balmy wolf
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idk about edison

errant hornet
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I mean sparkle has played pretty well thsi game

ebon aurora
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Dorado/Gib and let them bring in Fearless?

forest token
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as time goes on individual preferences will give way to what is just straight up better

errant hornet
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better than the last week for sure

ebon aurora
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Sparkle has showed up today

forest token
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e.g. ATL really liked the doom at first

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but, it just doesn't work on some maps

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so now they're adding gator in

errant hornet
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well yeah thats how it works ofc

brave zenith
errant hornet
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every meta

brave zenith
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no one has played a better reaper so far

errant hornet
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but rn the zarya still looks really good

balmy wolf
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they defintely have

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he's playing with hanbin

errant hornet
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so why switch it yet?

balmy wolf
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idk

errant hornet
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same with the winton

balmy wolf
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he makes so many questionable plays

errant hornet
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until one really

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really

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starts winning harder

balmy wolf
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sometimes little value from blossom

errant hornet
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we'll see

balmy wolf
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i feel like fuel could have chosen a different player i get eddison has good chemistry but like

errant hornet
forest token
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and that requires teams to actually learn how to play the comps well

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lel

errant hornet
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at least from what I ahve seen

balmy wolf
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hes gotten the most value cause he's on dallas

forest token
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blossom is just shit

errant hornet
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not as bad as s9mm's blossoms have been tho

forest token
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lol

balmy wolf
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tru

errant hornet
balmy wolf
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i think nero is the best reaper so far this season

hot onyx
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Reiner is feeding so hard holy moly

errant hornet
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when you have 2 bubbles tho it gets big value

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and has been good

ebon aurora
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Feels like Fuel have found the answer to the rush

errant hornet
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just kinda a bit risky

ebon aurora
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the Genji is farming

forest token
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when you have two bubbles

balmy wolf
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i think other players are better on reaper on their own but i think nero has had the strongest showing on reaper

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tbh dallas should have won first game

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yeah

forest token
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the main weakness of the zar comp is how often you have to burn bubbles

errant hornet
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well Genji is slapping rn

true hound
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sparkle overwatch

forest token
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if you start running out then you become stupid abusable

cedar oasis
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EZ

brave zenith
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fuel doing it w ease

cedar oasis
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MTD

brave zenith
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this map

errant hornet
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if you use them like shit yeah

prisma scroll
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shu diff

cedar oasis
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HANBIN DIFF

cunning patrol
forest token
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I mean

balmy wolf
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is there anywhere you can see where the next homestands are located?

errant hornet
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but clearly Hanbin is good enough that the bubbles are almsot always getting value

ebon aurora
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this is the highest level match this season so far this season

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there, I said it

errant hornet
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]the bubble reaper is deadly

forest token
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I've also seen plenty of times where teams put 150 dmg into a zar bubble that won't break anyway

errant hornet
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you kinda have to turn for it

forest token
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so

ebon aurora
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both teams are on fire

errant hornet
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same with bubble genji

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lol

balmy wolf
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fuel 3-2

forest token
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and as long as you're denying charge, you have the advantage

balmy wolf
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i have seen the light

ebon aurora
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yeah I think this goes 5

errant hornet
dreamy cave
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Yeah. I think kevster is really good when hes playing against another hitscan. But here against the reaper genji it dosnt feel like he got much of any value

forest token
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no pretty handily

errant hornet
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if you don't shoot the bubble reaper in your ass he gets free value and even a pick sometimes

balmy wolf
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casters are gonna find a way to talk about a reverse sweep with the glads playing kekw

ebon aurora
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if I was going to say 3-1 I'd say Fuel, Fuel should've won lijiang

forest token
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the charge is massive

errant hornet
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so you force the charge on zarya

forest token
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without it the zar isn't a threat

errant hornet
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the charge is big but often times if you play well on zarya

balmy wolf
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i think its a 3-1 for dallas

errant hornet
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you force them to give you charge wit the reaper right

forest token
errant hornet
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if you never shoot the bubbled reaper or blade

balmy wolf
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i think they found a temporary solution to the rush

forest token
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however

errant hornet
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well you lose anyways

balmy wolf
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and its gonna carry them through the series

forest token
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I have also seen a lot of times where teams charge a zarya for no reason

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literally watch someone flying out with a full hp bubble and shoot it anyway

ebon aurora
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I think Glads pick Dorado

errant hornet
forest token
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there've been times where zars have been up like 40-60 energy just off trash charge that shouldn't have gone their way

errant hornet
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like esp into rush

errant hornet
forest token
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owl

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specifically owl

balmy wolf
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there's no real good maps for glads to pick here

errant hornet
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oh well yeah kinda

balmy wolf
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circut royale

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space ans

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I was fucking malding watching it

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since that's also grav charge

errant hornet
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but again Hanbin is also just better than the whole lobby

balmy wolf
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circut is by far best map for glads

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every map is gonna be hard fought in this series regardless

errant hornet
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so hey

forest token
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and grav is obscenely valuable

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the better a job you do at denying charge the more freedom you have before grav comes up

errant hornet
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yeah but the problem is that they can't always jsut deny charge lol

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like 24/7

balmy wolf
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i want glads to win even tho atlanta just got swept by glads. atl has such a betterr shot at beating glads than they do dallas

errant hornet
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you kinda have to give it so that a

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say bubbled reaper

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doesn't 1v2 your supports

forest token
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that doesn't mean throw charge at the zarya for no reason

errant hornet
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its really easy to get charge on zarya tho depending on the comp

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lol

balmy wolf
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agree @balmy wolf

errant hornet
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like self bubble into a rush isn't crazy

forest token
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getting charge pre-fight and mid-fight are different

errant hornet
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pre-fght still isn't lol

forest token
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pre-fight charge means you start the fight charged and with bubbles

balmy wolf
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I'd rather take the fight against the rush than try to mirror dallas

errant hornet
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again not that crazy hard to do tho

balmy wolf
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yeah

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if i was atlanta

forest token
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mid-fight means you have to burn resources before you can start dealing damage

balmy wolf
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atlanta usually loses mirrors anyway

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a mirror against dallas too

errant hornet
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esp against

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say

forest token
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bro

balmy wolf
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no way thats winnable

errant hornet
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a rush with a ton of spam

forest token
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if a zar peeks and bubbles next to cover

balmy wolf
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unless we pull out a 2021 atlanta run kekw

forest token
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maybe don't break the bubble while they still can't engage

errant hornet
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thats not exactaly how that works tho

forest token
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I've watched teams feed almost entire bubbles of charge for no reason

errant hornet
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you usually bubble when you are taking damage

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lol

forest token
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oifea jiopfasejiofpas jfasoi[df

errant hornet
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like at least at a High level

forest token
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how can you call my understanding of the game simplistic and then talk like this

balmy wolf
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can we make a esports debate channel?

tropic herald
forest token
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I don't get it

errant hornet
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wdym?

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you jsut think

balmy wolf
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its hanbin time

forest token
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this is very basic

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if a zarya

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does not need to be shot

errant hornet
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"Just DoN'T ShOOt ZarYA"

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like what

forest token
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and you shoot the bubble anyway

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you are giving them free charge

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is that clear?

errant hornet
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except when team is spamming prefight cause thats what you need to do

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to

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y'know

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get ults

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and win a game

forest token
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if a zarya

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bubbles in front of you

errant hornet
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its not hard to get charge

forest token
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and you still continue to shoot the bubble for no reason after you see the bubble

errant hornet
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if a zarya isn't bubbled and walks out

forest token
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that is dumb

errant hornet
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and you shoot her

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she than bubles

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to get charge

forest token
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then do you keep shooting

errant hornet
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thats usually how it works

forest token
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or do you stop shooting

errant hornet
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lol

balmy wolf
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shooting bubbles can also be to pressure zar

forest token
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because I have watched teams continue to shoot the bubble when there are not enough people to break the bubble

errant hornet
forest token
balmy wolf
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yes really

errant hornet
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yeah its hard to 24/7 keep track of every bubble ever

forest token
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since there's so much less burst damage she's not really that threatened just by bubble breaking

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what

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it's a 9s cd

errant hornet
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like its not crazy hard to walk in front of poke, wait, and then get charge

balmy wolf
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otherwise you just stand there and the zarya keeps the space

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if you pop the zarya has to move

forest token
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I mean

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if you don't care

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then not shooting the bubble means she still isn't a threat

errant hornet
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"JuST nEVeR ShoOT zARyA"

forest token
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that's not what I said

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hoooolly fuck

balmy wolf
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if she's already high charge

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or has grav

errant hornet
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"I kNOw bEtTer thAN tHe PrOs"

balmy wolf
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you need to do something

forest token
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jesus fucking christ

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this is not rocket science

errant hornet
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excpet it doesn't matter

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she peaks

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looks like ult charge

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shoot

forest token
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so

balmy wolf
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lmao

forest token
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once she bubbles

errant hornet
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than she bubbles when getting shot

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lol

forest token
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do you keep shooting despite gaining nothing from shooting the bubble

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or do you stop

errant hornet
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and zaryas often peak without bubble to farm ult so its not crazy to me a dps would shoot it so that she can't infinite farm ult for free

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lol

forest token
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do you keep shooting a bubble you gain nothing from shooting

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or do you stop

errant hornet
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you can't insta react 24/7

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often at that point she already has the charge

forest token
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after you react

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do you keep shooting the bubble

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or do you stop

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holy fuck

errant hornet
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most of the time they stop

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waht

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lol

forest token
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YES

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THANK YOU

errant hornet
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just braindead

forest token
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I WATCH THEM NOT STOP

errant hornet
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yes they stop shooting it

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waht games are you watching

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?

forest token
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owl

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lol

errant hornet
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just braindead idk

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clearly not

forest token
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I literally watch it happen

errant hornet
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mf watching a gold vod by accident

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rip

forest token
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and then the bubble expires because there wasn't enough damage

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and now she's got 20 extra charge

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holy fuck

wooden oriole
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why do teams play the same heroes?

forest token
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actually use your eyes

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it's gib

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gib is monkey/widow map

errant hornet
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ok tbf charge goes away so quickly 20 charge isn't that insane

forest token
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there is a problem if gib is not a monkey/widow map

errant hornet
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and 20 charge isn't even a lot of damage

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lol

forest token
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sd kjsfdiop dashjiop fjasdio[p fgjasdiopasdfjio[fadjioapsf{

balmy wolf
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ans invisible

forest token
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it's a 20% dmg increase

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holy fuck

errant hornet
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yeah

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offo f like nothing

forest token
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and delays the charge decay

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so now 40 becomes 60

errant hornet
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its really not htat crazy damage

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kinda

forest token
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how

errant hornet
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lol

willow drum
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how is ans

wooden oriole
willow drum
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not doing anything

forest token
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do you call my understanding simplistic

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and then say inane shit like this

willow drum
forest token
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jesus christ

balmy wolf
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ans nervous

errant hornet
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usually by the time the fight starts its only like 5-10

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and its not that big of a deal

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tbh

wooden oriole
forest token
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I have watched fights

willow drum
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but the heroes they r playing

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are the most likely to win

forest token
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where zaryas had 30-40 extra charge that was given by trash damage that could easily have beena voided

errant hornet
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90 vs 80 chrarge barely maeks a diff most the time

willow drum
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and since everyone wants to win

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everyone wants to play the best possible heroes

wooden oriole
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but cant they just counter pick against the meta

balmy wolf
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counter picking

willow drum
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then a new meta

forest token
errant hornet
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but I don't feel like arguing with what feels like someone who has never played vs a zarya or seen a high level vs a zarya

willow drum
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is made

balmy wolf
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silver mindset

willow drum
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lmao

errant hornet
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so seeya

forest token
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holy shit

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dw guys

wooden oriole
forest token
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40% extra damage doesn't do anything

willow drum
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holy shit what is ans doing

forest token
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esp when it charges one of the best ults in the game

errant hornet
forest token
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dw though, you just haven't seen high level play before

balmy wolf
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didnt say you werent

errant hornet
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and 20 charge decays so quick

forest token
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20% off one bubble

errant hornet
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in the midfight

willow drum
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bro ans i'm ngl

errant hornet
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yeah what of it

balmy wolf
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but counter picking isnt how the game is played anymore

forest token
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I have watched it accumulate to more

willow drum
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kilo is much better than u

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ans how are u not gapping

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the fuck

forest token
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how do you not understand how this works

willow drum
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out of guriyo

errant hornet
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than you lose both bubbles which is awkard if the team can engage quicker

north relic
errant hornet
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lol

north relic
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is a top 10 hitscanner

forest token
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it takes more than 9s for charge to decay

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funf act

wooden oriole
errant hornet
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mhm

wooden oriole
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is anyone a fan of this 5-man teams?

willow drum
forest token
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not only that, but the more charge you have, the longer it takes to decay

errant hornet
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mhm

willow drum
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if i had 2 watch fucking

errant hornet
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mhm

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mhm

willow drum
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double shield

errant hornet
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mhm

forest token
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so when you get charge again, it takes even longer for it to decay down

willow drum
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or new goats

errant hornet
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go off queen

willow drum
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or zombie goats

forest token
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I know you are unaware of zarya mechanics

willow drum
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i would have lost it

errant hornet
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thats the reason they are losing

forest token
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but that is how the character works

wooden oriole
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it made ow1 fun kinda

errant hornet
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for sure

balmy wolf
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neo goats went kinda hard doe

errant hornet
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not sure if you have ever been above plat but sure go off

forest token
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I said teams are sloppy about playing against a zar still

errant hornet
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mhm

wooden oriole
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u can counter double shields i dont know why people see it as a big problem

forest token
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holy fuck

errant hornet
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go off

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queen

willow drum
wooden oriole
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bastion

forest token
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jesus christ

wooden oriole
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tracer

balmy wolf
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lmao

willow drum
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tracer doesnt work against double shield

balmy wolf
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nah he trollin

errant hornet
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what

forest token
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he has to be trolling

errant hornet
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agaisnt double shield?

wooden oriole
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what rank are u guys

errant hornet
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gm

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why?

wooden oriole
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okok

errant hornet
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in what world does bastion counter that comp

wooden oriole
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in diamond u can just go bastion against a doulbe shield

willow drum
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well

errant hornet
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idfc about diamond tho

wooden oriole
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with 2 shields of ur own

willow drum
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this is owl

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lmao

errant hornet
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you can make anything work in diamond

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lol

balmy wolf
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its fucking ladder

mortal cipher
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diamond compare lol

errant hornet
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people complain cause its both one boring

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to play against

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and two

balmy wolf
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mfs lose their minds when enemy picks bastion

errant hornet
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double shield is basically only a problem in higher ranks tbh

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so like

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what

balmy wolf
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"omg are you really that desperate playing bastion"

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just dumb

wooden oriole
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so what happened to the 6th player of the teams?

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from ow1

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kicked out?

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subs?

balmy wolf
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yeah they died

mortal cipher
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they become a sub

errant hornet
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so you are a troll got it

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thank god for 5v5 tho

wooden oriole
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😂 😂

errant hornet
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god knows ow1 could be boring

mortal cipher
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tru

willow drum
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im sorry

errant hornet
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and carry potential is back at 10 fold

wooden oriole
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we cant say for sure until u play ow2 on release

tropic herald
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What the fuck

willow drum
tropic herald
balmy wolf
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easy game for dallas

willow drum
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it is better

wooden oriole
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beta just a beta

willow drum
forest token
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ah yes the carry potential where everything gets healed unless you have a teammate with you

slate siren
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What are they rubbing on their hands

fast tusk
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c9, sparkle coudve touched

wooden oriole
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they will cahgne

errant hornet
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yeah and ow1 is so fucking bad anything is better

willow drum
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lmao

forest token
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genuinely I went back to ow1 within a day or two lol

wooden oriole
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ow1 goated

cunning patrol
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5v5 is heat

errant hornet
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I mean no matter what 5v5 will be similar to how it is now in essence

willow drum
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the reaction has not been nearly as negative

errant hornet
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more off angles

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ore shit to do

balmy wolf
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lowkey

willow drum
forest token
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it'll change significantly depending on what happens with the supports

errant hornet
balmy wolf
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blizzard babying the fuck out of supports in ow2

twin bloom
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Nah 6 v 5 is way better

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Poor OT playahs

balmy wolf
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little fucking babies

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wah wah

twin bloom
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Hard benched

slate siren
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I’m waiting for the overwatch 2 announcement on June 19th or whenever it is

balmy wolf
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im a support player

twin bloom
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5 v 5 killing my goat

willow drum
forest token
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there's a reason supertf retired before the game was going to be on ow2

twin bloom
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False's

willow drum
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cause ptiphan is not there

twin bloom
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Career

twin bloom
forest token
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also a lot of the people praising ow2 are going to play for a few months, whine about the supports and then quit most likely

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so

errant hornet
north relic
twin bloom
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Meant 6 v 6

balmy wolf
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why are they sucking ans dick

willow drum
errant hornet
willow drum
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top 10 hs is at least a tier

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ans is b tier

balmy wolf
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hardly done anything

twin bloom
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But also true

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And real

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Pati sucks

forest token
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same team that introduced brig and bap

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so

willow drum
errant hornet
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and supports are so insanley strong in ow1 ofc they will feel weaker in ow2

willow drum
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shock players

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always

errant hornet
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I would hope so

willow drum
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get dick rided

forest token
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hopefully it gets better but I'm not getting my hopes up

balmy wolf
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truee

errant hornet
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cause in ow1 they are dumby strong

forest token
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they're stronger in ow2

willow drum
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past and current

forest token
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lol

errant hornet
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??????????????

shut bobcat
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Shock players always overrated

errant hornet
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bap brig zen all 20x stronger

willow drum
forest token
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there's no OT to contain them or help burst through the healing

shut bobcat
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Especially the current ones

errant hornet
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have so much space and peal

willow drum
forest token
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ana gets to run absolutely wild

willow drum
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holy shit

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s4 shock was overrated imo

forest token
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peal lol

shut bobcat
willow drum
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this shock is not overrated

wooden oriole
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crossplay on ranked in ow2? anyone know anything about that

balmy wolf
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agree

errant hornet
willow drum
errant hornet
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please god no

balmy wolf
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current shock is at least deserving of some recognition

shut bobcat
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Good luck playing ot in monkey meta

forest token
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dw guys, the bigbrain player doesn't understand what removing the sig/zarya/dva OT did to affect the support lineup

errant hornet
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I don't need a 4.3k widow on console or some shit getting shit on by the 3.6k widow onetrick

forest token
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very smart individual

willow drum
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cause hadi is not > coluge on all tanks

wooden oriole
errant hornet
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what?

errant hornet
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tahts the issue

forest token
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it also means that sleep and nade run free, and you don't have an OT helping to dive you

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lol

errant hornet
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its easier to dive supports now lol

forest token
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not really

errant hornet
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you are only talking about ana tho lol

forest token
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just stick a lucio with them

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unkillable

wooden oriole
errant hornet
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its really not nearly the same

wooden oriole
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just play in a team of good ppl

errant hornet
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as a brig zen in ow1

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like i'm sorry but idfk what games you were playing

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they re obj weaker as a role

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less room to perma heal and stay alive

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makes a lot of characters like bap weaker

forest token
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entire matches in owl are coming down to which ana's landing the sleeps lol

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weaker role tho

willow drum
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@north relic what about that diff

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that u just saw

forest token
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winton jump winton zap winton ult winton nap

willow drum
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was that nerves again

errant hornet
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yeah and entire matches of owl are determined by tank and dps diff

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lol

north relic
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what hapened

errant hornet
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idk bro

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idk

willow drum
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ans fucked guriyo @north relic

wide minnow
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They went too far

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willow drum
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just won widow 1v1

errant hornet
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its so easy to fuck supports in ow2 compared to ow1

forest token
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not if they have more than two braincells

errant hornet
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shit like brig doesn;t make team immortal anymore

balmy wolf
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its time.

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hanbin time

errant hornet
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not even bro

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lol

forest token
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and actually peel for each other

errant hornet
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they do the same in ow1...

wooden oriole
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i highly doubt our ow2 games will look like this owl. we will still do basic setups on high grounds

errant hornet
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jsut not needed as much

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cause you have as second tank?

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lol

balmy wolf
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these nanos sadly not enough

forest token
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oh god I underrated brig so hard before I realized the armor change applied to her too

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actually impossible to kill

balmy wolf
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teehee

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im brig

errant hornet
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shes good but can get overrun

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lol

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but its fine : )

trim shadow
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Ayo opening weekend hit 1.3 mil

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forest token
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she has a 30% dmg reduction for the first 50hp

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and a 200 hp shield

errant hornet
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yes she does

forest token
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and a passive self-heal

errant hornet
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and no stun anymore

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which is a big deal

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and lucio exists

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which is also a bigger deal

forest token
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lucio's also impossible to kill

errant hornet
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she is way better to play against good sir

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kinda yeah

forest token
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she still has two boops and eats so much fucking damage

errant hornet
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yes but you can over run her

balmy wolf
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one thing sp9rk1e has always been so good at

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hitting his pulse bombs

errant hornet
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she doesn't have as much mob as lucio

forest token
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mob?

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?????

errant hornet
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thats whyt she is only really good on maps like gib

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mobility

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thats why she is really good on maps like gib and dorado

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where you can set up easier

forest token
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do you understand the concept of splitting your team

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it's very much map dependent yes

errant hornet
#

yeah

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agian supports as a role are weaker thats a fact

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pro players say it

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high rank players say it

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most people say it

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idk dude

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you are easily in the minority

forest token
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I've been seeing more pros/high ranked players change their minds and say "wait, maybe supports are stronger than we thought initially"

errant hornet
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some are stronger than others like ana but as a role its lower

earnest leaf
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but guys

errant hornet
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they are better just not that crazy insane

earnest leaf
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I thought ans was supposed to be washed and dogshit

fast tusk
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wow

forest token
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they're running the game rn

balmy wolf
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Ans cracked

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fuel 😦

errant hornet
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like better than we thought initially

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well no tanks and dps are

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lol

balmy wolf
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sadly gladiators choke these

forest token
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and the reason doom doesn't get run is...

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or ball

shut bobcat
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Gladiators are disgustingly clear of the Shock atleast

dreamy cave
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This is going all the way ladies and gentlemen

forest token
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crazy we don't see those tanks

errant hornet
#

yeah

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and why doesn't bap, zen, mercy get played?

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I mean ana is good but also winton is way stronger

forest token
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winton is only good because he has an answer to ana

errant hornet
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and dps will usully have more impact overall

forest token
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ana is the reason monkey is good

errant hornet
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tis not that insane

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well no he also has good dive

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survivabilty

forest token
#

so does doom

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the difference

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is that doom can't block sleep and nade

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monkey can

errant hornet
#

shield vs doom who can only protect himself

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better ult

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than doom

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like idk

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And we have seen the doom force some teams to swap to mirror different comps before

dreamy cave
forest token
#

we've also seen teams just play like shit

errant hornet
#

and tbf yes ana can be strong but as a role its overall weaker lol

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like idk

hot onyx
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Glads 3rd map 5 against a top team

errant hornet
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Bap and brig and zen are literally game defining in ow1

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and they get infinite heals and protection

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with second tank

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so idk

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and way mroe room to set shit up

forest token
#

this is another brig moment where everyone tells me the owl coaches say I'm wrong and that I just don't know what I'm talking about and then people go "wait maybe we were wrong about that"

errant hornet
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whether you like it or not ana lives longer usually in ow1 and can set up more

balmy wolf
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at least it's not gonna be a reverse sweep this time

errant hornet
#

I mean she is better in ow1 yes

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within the context of the game

forest token
#

lol

errant hornet
#

I am saying that supports aren;t as bad as we orignially thought but they still are weaker than ow1 lol

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which I think is a good thing

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tbf

forest token
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and I'm saying you still are delusional

errant hornet
#

They jsut need tuning so that they aren't boring rn

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and you are a fucking dumbass so hey

forest token
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hey at least I know how building charge works

errant hornet
#

I know mroe about this game than you ever will

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kid

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sorry

forest token
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lmfaooooo

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ah yes, the dude that doesn't understand how charge decay works knows more

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I bow to you good sir

errant hornet
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I do but its ok : )

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you clearly don't know how to play zarya at all if you don't know bubble yourself when you bait out poke = charge

balmy wolf
#

how yall still arguing

forest token
#

I never said it didn't

balmy wolf
#

let it go

errant hornet
#

well you do

north relic
errant hornet
#

but hey

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you just can't understand ow at a basic level

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which is ok!

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sometimes that happens : )

forest token
#

I had to specify 3 times that I didn't say that because you cannot read

errant hornet
#

well no you said everything I claim

forest token
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and eventually, once I locked you into exactly what I was asking you, you agreed with me

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because that's what happens

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and then you said that "well you just didn't see that happen"

errant hornet
#

I haven't agreed with you at all

forest token
#

you did

errant hornet
#

you actually still think supports as a role are stronger in ow2

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I don't

forest token
#

you just are coping so hard at what I'm saying that you don't realize

errant hornet
#

what

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lol

#

and you still don;t understand how zaryas play at a high level and that getting charge before a fight starts is really fucking easy and happens all the time

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you saying

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"JuST dOn'T DO iT"

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like bro

balmy wolf
#

little break for hanbin

errant hornet
#

go fuck youself

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lol

forest token
#

"teams shooting a zarya bubble when they don't have to is bad"

"well you just don't understand zarya bubbles"

#

lmfao

dreamy cave
errant hornet
#

its not that they never have too

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if a zarya peaks out for free ult charge

forest token
#

I was very specific about what I was talking about

errant hornet
#

you kinda want to presure her out

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but its ok

#

jsut go off

forest token
#

ah yes

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shoot the bubble that will expire on time

#

that will buy you so much space

errant hornet
#

and I am saying what you are saying isn't happening

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you just think it does

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lol

forest token
#

I've watched it happen

errant hornet
#

and 20 charge before a fight starts isn't that crazy

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cause usually by the time fight starts its very low

forest token
#

I'm sorry you don't understand the game well enough to recognize when a zarya bubble expires on time

errant hornet
#

and I have also played at an actual decent level on ot and know my shit vs

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you

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who clearly doesn't

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lol

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but go off queen

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yaas

forest token
#

plays at a decent level and still doesn't know how charge decay works

south flower
#

edison bastion please

forest token
#

😔

errant hornet
#

I do more than you

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lol

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I agree just never ever presure zarya when she pokes

dreamy cave
#

wrightthink these two really arguing about something that dosnt matter wrightthink

forest token
#

that's not what I said

mortal cipher
#

fr

forest token
#

crazy you always have to misrepresent what I say when you respond

balmy wolf
#

yall just making yourselves mad

errant hornet
forest token
#

it's just not

errant hornet
#

that is how you just get charge early

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learn the game

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kid

forest token
#

lmfaooop

#

if a zar walks up across the map and bubbles, if you don't shoot her you are throwing

errant hornet
#

you have the understanding of a silver player who thinks they actually know the game without

forest token
#

you gotta pressure bro

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sure she's just gonna go back behind cover once bubble breaks and we can't follow up

errant hornet
#

mhm

forest token
#

but you gotta pressure her bro

errant hornet
#

you have too yes

forest token
#

that's a great use of time

#

LOL

errant hornet
#

for your own ult charge yes

forest token
#

ah yes

#

all the ult charge gained from breaking bubble

errant hornet
#

and if she pokes forever you lose ult game

forest token
#

how could I have forgotten

errant hornet
#

and often its a bait

hazy marsh
dreamy cave
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"That's not what I typed babyrage"
"This is what you meant babyrage

errant hornet
#

she doesn't jsut peak and immediatly bubble unless there is already spam that she can take easily being thrown down

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you jsut think something is happening that isn;t

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idk bro

forest token
#

it's ok, not everyone can understand the game that welll

balmy wolf
errant hornet
#

ik

forest token
#

that's why teams have staff, to help with that

errant hornet
#

not everyone can

#

thats why ppl like you aren't coaches

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or a high rank

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or anything

forest token
#

and in your case I wouldn't try going into coaching

errant hornet
#

in the game

forest token
#

don't think it'd be a great fit

errant hornet
#

ik I am not good at helping others improve

#

: )

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and I don't have better gamesense than coaches

#

just mroe than you

forest token
#

apparently not if you don't know how charge decay works

errant hornet
#

I do but its ok

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just go off

#

and can you stfu now you are annoying

dreamy cave
#

Now kiss Citrus

errant hornet
#

im tryin to watch the game

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sorry

balmy wolf
#

lol

forest token
#

lmfaoooo

hazy marsh
#

Charge decay is just a constant amount of energy per second xqcBrow

forest token
#

could've left at any point

#

needs me to shut up

#

classic

errant hornet
#

same with you mf

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lol

#

and I decided Ik I won the argument

#

cause ik I did

forest token
errant hornet
#

and I think its not worth time anymore

forest token
#

which is... a take

#

certainly is a take

balmy wolf
#

bro dallas win that if they just grav pulse

solar trout
#

preds are going to new galaxies

hazy marsh
errant hornet
#

well its not that crazy yeah

#

tbh

balmy wolf
#

pls just take the early fights to win

errant hornet
#

cause usually by the time the fight begins its lower

#

its just good for ult charge really

forest token
#

you're defending it

#

LOL

#

lmfaooooooo

dreamy cave
#

Take your tongue kissing to dms. Your filling the chat with filth

errant hornet
#

but if you actually think it is as crazy as you say it is in the midfight

#

idk bro

shut bobcat
errant hornet
#

sorry

forest token
#

20% dmg doesn't matter

hazy marsh
forest token
#

heard it here first

errant hornet
#

this just in: silver player thinks they know shit

forest token
#

I'm not the one saying 20 charge doesn't change how far down you decay ReaperShrug

balmy wolf
#

bro dallas

#

nooo

hazy marsh
hollow bough
#

i cant wait for gladiators to close this one out and not get swept

shut bobcat
#

Arguing about ow2 zarya or something

errant hornet
#

ahh yes

forest token
balmy wolf
#

despair

errant hornet
#

caause in the midfight when a zarya has that extra 20 charge that at this point is 5 at best

balmy wolf
#

my team

errant hornet
#

it really makes a hig difference

mortal cipher
#

they made sure they didnt get swept by falling one map

errant hornet
#

for sure

hazy marsh
errant hornet
#

lol

#

its cute tbh

hazy marsh
#

you act like a bit of a douche

errant hornet
#

and?

#

Idrc

#

Ik i'm right and he isn't

forest token
errant hornet
#

thats it

hollow bough
#

i would not be mad if dallas win this map with this comeback

dreamy cave
#

GLADS

hollow bough
#

that would be awesome

errant hornet
dreamy cave
#

GG

shut bobcat
#

So ez

solar trout
#

Fuel and shock both moving to the losers bracket same day
tracerkek

shut bobcat
#

Dallas sucks

hollow bough
#

gg

willow drum
#

gg dallas washed

trim shadow
#

Gladiators reign match up hmm

worthy lynx
#

YES

balmy wolf
#

bruhhh

errant hornet
#

gg

mortal cipher
#

oof

errant hornet
#

Glads are good team

balmy wolf
#

no way they die with ults

#

sad

trim shadow
restive nexus
#

Ayyyyyy

balmy wolf
#

Lets gooooooooooo

forest token
#

what was it, you accused me of mistaking gold vods for owl games when I mentioned that

balmy wolf
#

Fuck the fueeel

willow drum
#

a sad day for a shock v dallas final lmao

balmy wolf
#

fuck yall

earnest leaf
#

Like I said, I think zarya comps struggle vs really good tracers

dreamy cave
#

@cedar oasis speakup

shut bobcat
#

Dalass shock both mid teams

restive nexus
#

Fuck you fuelll

mortal cipher
#

pick ems are truly boomed

balmy wolf
#

glads ugliest team in the league

solar trout
#

Me predding fuel 3-0 glads 🤡

errant hornet
#

yeah as a joke to make fun for you for being a dumbass, if you can't connect that than idk

shut bobcat
mortal cipher
#

literally my pick ems were in the reverse

tropic herald
forest token
#

lmfao

balmy wolf
#

🤡 SHIELDS 🤡 UP🤡