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irony is lobby filler
you cant
unfortunately
If you think Shock isn't properly tested
then Dallas isn't properly tested
Hold
However both teams are indeed
Shanghai
properly tested
houston/justice/glads/toronto/paris/boston was dallas's schedule
is anyone arguing shock hasnt been tested after glads
Coldest is terrible
Yes
so true
Compared to NA
UV!
shock played nyxl titans london paris
Fs
all those teams were bottom 3 when they played them'
Shock are properly tested imo
i agree
agree but dallas schedule was far harder
they played week 1 happy
who is the best player
Dallas schedule was a tiny bit harder
They faced glads, and titans(on off tank compositions)
in history
2 impressive wins
coluge is probably the swolest guy
in owl right
like legit he's prob the biggest and strongest?
Lol
thats just wrong
No
his zenyatta was revolutionary
He was just apac
disagree
I am not
🍵
lol
MMonk has never been the problem on Hunters
the region that has
Also NA tanks
seicoe
Also better
backbone
Than the Apac
patiphan
Region
patiphan
Seicoe is better
than nobody
Than beckay
in apac
Imo
becky > seicoe
i know
becky has
you ahve not
But I hate apac
i know you have never seen valiant
So seicoe>becky
0 moment
but seicoe is shit
Ok
So is Becky
yes but becky less shit
He killed proper on tracer
?? becky has never been shit on by coluge
Becky has won a match in Overwatch League
Why is being shit on by the best
Na ot
Not named
Hanbin
A negative
because coluge never killed him!
i have brain computational activity
I don't need to watch
na has more shit teams
much more impressive than solo utling
Becky seems pretty good
And ya I agree na looks weaker
Put NYXL and boston in apac
All the Apac fans would be like
"noo oh no APAC is so inconsistent waaah aaah"
no. the teams are actually just performing good and outplaying one another
Fusion
imo
No they wouldn't
you put any of the top 4 apac
Imo
i respectfully agree
seoul shanghai spark and arguably chengdu and philly would all raw dog every na team except shock glads and fuel
imo
Yaki top 2 flex damage player
reign would lose to every apac team rn
i agree
In apac
lol yaki would be bottom 3
except maybe valiant & fusion
in myo pinion
you put valiant
against
unfortunately
Valiant
Do not beat titans
i agree
Imo
valiant MOP titans
coach diff
no they just suck
False monkey
APAC has no strength of schedule bias because you play against every team every stage

All the teams suck
unfortunate cope
Disagree
Seoul would own
All of na except top 2
Same with shd
Glads have unfortunate crutches
With Reiner monkay
And Patiphan
Imo
it is not
Stand1 was top 2 apac MT
get fucked
In wheel meta he was top 2
Better
With moose
private leaderboards are open rn https://pickem.overwatchleague.com/en-us/leaderboard/row-leaderboard/2022/kickoff-clash
Due to DPS diff
not a hot takellmao
What
Ngl I take Becky diya over nyxl dps
Flora(apac only)
Lmfaoooo
Bong
Agree
And people
Rate Val over them
Because
Imo
Apac hs comp
Goats like
Mops
Happy
Diya and Becky feel more consistent then florra and yaki
Na he comp
Sparkr
Ok
He gapped half of those playas
Shockwave
Shut up
APAC has played significantly more sniper heroes than NA
fits and lip owns
Hydron
every NA HS
My big 3 of hs players
Ngl I feel like uprising has a better dps duo now
Are apac
Xzi
Agree
Then when striker was in
Decay
Decay hasn't played hitscan in so long
He doesn’t even play
Every NA HS gaps flora
victoria striker
Hs
Ssdly
alas
He does
We will come to see the two regions clash in the Midseason Madness.
APAC SUPREMACY
He gapped
Sometimes
All of them
Except kilo
Imo odd to Stan a widowmaker otp like happy
Just me though 🤷
I don't think I rate Flora a top hs
I hate all of you
Agree
He just flexible to tracer
nobody asked u
Why is it every body in existense
Thinks
Happy
"treeko"
Is the goat
"valorant" fan
They don’t
But they don't agree on moose
he is not
It’s only you
sadly
lol
Who do you take
Why is that in quotes
Disagree
No top analysts
Flora tracer from.last.year or yaki tracer?
Like me
Everybody stans happy
Why is that in quotes
Flora
happy peaks high A on occasions
Happy has always been S
Happy is inconsistent player
Never A
Happy is a low s tier widowmaker
Only S
imo kilo is best hitscan in NA
Low a tier
It is happy
McGee
agree
Mid b tier Ashe
Happy is best HS
low s widow
In NA
everything else
Top tier doom
not s tier
Kai crying in the corner
diffed by sparkr
Mid tracer
Agree
Happy is a solid b tier tracer
But his proj is not real
ehh
Happy sombra is c tier
Happy plays tracer?
Like I seen him play tracer but it didn't look good
gapping doha on echo isnt even really an accomplishment worthy of note
doha got gapped echo a lot last season
Ya
Doha top character is Sombra but even then he like the third best imo behind fits and lip
fuck didnt sparkle bench him on echo a lot of the time too lol?
Unless I'm missing anyone
i agree
Happy mei is revolutionary
Imho
Yznsa said on stream he watches happy's pharahs vods
Ya
He is best pharah ever
wrong
In contenders
And he thinks happy is 2nd best
Odd
fleta is the greatest counter pharah to grace the overwatch league
Which doesn't say much imo
To keep spreading
fleta heesang and sparkle all clear yszna pharah
stop spreading lies please
Wast He a console player?
Provide this "proof"
He is
wait no dont show me
Just like ballgdh
a youtube thumbnail
okay holy shit
king myxl fan
please stop trolling at this point
you are being moved down to a D tier analyst
imho
that makes it even worse 💀
imo the next stage is international so they lose to shanghai dragons
i agree
but so will shock
i also think shd players have all reached skill ceilings
shanghai peaks higher unfortunately
disagree
every shanghai player has already peaked
shanghai has ping problems rightt
with exception of lip
they had the 3 cable setup
???
but only 1 works or some shit
they only have 1 cable installed
fleta has already peaked
they were going to install more
izayaki has already peaked
but covid
WhoRU played the best overwatch this stage as he had in YEARS
covid lockdowns in china are being lowered at least
Nobody cares about whoru outside of genji
sadly
LIP is cementing himself this year as a top 1 hitscan i can feel it
they wanted like 1 cable for social media, 1 for games and 1 for casual usage but rn only have 1 set up
i agree yes
but most of shd imo peaked alr
i mean think of it like this right
leejaegon peak MS > viol2t MS
fate/void peak > coluge peak
i dont think coluge really peaked
Yea but
LIP probably best player in the server
as much as fate has
proper diff
LIPfferential
he already was
last year
lol
Last year not many widowmaker was played
This year he has a chance to prove himself as the undisputed top 1 hitscan
cause hitscan is actually relevant
irrelevant
imo
with his dominance on the sombra
Lol
fits is better than lip
and bastion
Shut up levy
Lip widow is generational
Fits is better at duels
imo fits widow>lip widow but lip ashe > fits ashe
But lip kind of just raw dogs teams
???
Not on wid
watch the seoul game again
fits has actually
he was having so much impact
yeah i know
I watched
on the sniper hero
being meta doesn't make u not a funny character
ever
imo
in his entire career
he was putting respect
like symm was meta for na last year
imo
Diem is the greatest widowmaker to ever grace the video game
symm still a funny character
o7
like junkrat
since diem is an icon
Agree
how much u wanna bet flameknight
says
"ans"
ans playstyle unfortunately not as pro gamer as Diem's
Here he issss
Eh
highest peak
@FLMayhem Prepping? What for? Literally just go rein lmao
175
Birdring had the highest one game peak
In history
No highest peak was ans s3 on widow
ANS's widow style was very good because he was on Shock. Diem's widow style would've pounded all the same on any team.
No meme if you disagree you're actually coping or brainless
Unfortunately ratio
guiryo diffs sadly
end of s3
Sadly ans is better than any of your favorite HS players
Ans spent all of playoffs getting rocked
cope and seethe
Even carpe on Ashe was raw dogging him
ans was
guriyo is so bad
your faith blinds you, flame knight
Ans is literally a d tier hs player
by a decent margin
ANS is a fraud 😖
Waits for the real chad Reiner to ping widows before taking duels 😼
that back it up too
And you would only want him on ur team as rotational
Stat wise ans was worse considering shock played more around the tracer ball dive comps for koth
by far best
flameknightt don't talk about the shock challenge
heesu and diem
So shock moved a bit away from the pocket ans challenge
Ans widow was rlly good cuz whenever he woul get his shit pushed in
bottom left
I didn't even bring them up this time
He literally had a mercy the whole time on koth for his Ashe
idk what to say i just think that diem is the more explosive widowmaker compared to how ans played the game in 2020
||God Flameknight disgraces the actual Shock fans||
But it was till more centered around smurf/striker shitting on people
mmmm
Anyways cope and seethe
difference in the playoffs was
ans> all
maybe not too dumb
||Flameknight is the actual Shock Fans||
the difference in the playoffs was the fact that blizzard released a random patch that cucked over like 5 different teams
Or an Ashe
coping shd couldn't one trick sombra dive to win
????
Isn’t that
am i not an actual shock fan?
Exactly what they did
u are the exception
Also they would’ve raw dogged shock in dog me shield
You are a rare tolerable exception
I do think the 2020 playoffs were a bit of a meme
"a bit"
Big W for me
You are literally flexing beating shd in that meta
But it showed shock was the best team that season due to their ability to adapt to the meta and beat people on it
thank you thank you
Like they didn’t sweep u guys last year in playoffs
memeicus how does it feel
Lmaooo
Or Supertf the twitch streamer funny man
thank you
the "meta adaptability" argument is dumb as shit cause i can name plenty of other potential metas where the outcome would've been not the same
right place in the right time
There was almost no meta I would see shock losing the entire playoffs in s3
Cuz you are braindead
The only meta would be winston sombra where shd would be a bit better, but even then I think it would be very close
a bit??
i mean they would have gotten shitten on
Yeah Shanghai would dog them
by the winston sombra
who is playing the sombra on shock again
that was developing
before hog
lip would
cyberbully
ans so hard
not to mention fearless monke
easily matches
He would still too
@earnest leaf who do u have winning kickoff clash
Dallas or shock
Hard to say between the two because idk which comp is better
S3
whats ur predict
just did shock
Dallas win in NA. Dragons in APAC.
ok very respectable
that is my preds
think I had it as a 4-2 or a 4-3
based fuel believers
i just think the zarya is better
and if zarya turns out to be not better
they have fearless on their team
so like yanno
Spark win apac
You’ve been doubting them during preseason, now is the time to stop
in monkey mirror?
tracer solider
i take shock over dallas dps
I promise you fearless would dog him
very very not close imo
tbf glads had kevster fucking very hard
if monkey is better shock win the upper finals and then fuel goes to the lowers where they proceed to completely fuck with fearless on his best hero and then have more than enough training and practice to beat shock
Dallas don't have a tracer player near the capability of kevster
thats solid reasoning
u have a huge
actually
monkey gap
fuel doesnt have enough practice
Not to mention
on monkey
and also sadly
this dude
Just be better for zar
fuel played almost all monkey last year
soldier is
Lol if u think fearless doesn’t abuse coluge in his sleep on monkey
they hardly need any practice
Idk what to say
doha would do decent
Also shock has a much better ability to swap up styles mid map vs dallas
Yes but reaper genji
I think fearless gaps coluge yes
but the dps gap in monke mirror not close
imo
Dallas have to commit to one comp depending on which tank is in
shanghai got enough practice on ball to beat dallas in a weekend
hanbin
can play
every tank
at a very high level
If Dallas doesn’t have Hanbin they have Fearless
s4 shanghai
is not s5 fuel
How do you complain?
But the dive style with winston is better suited with different dps on dallas
Edison/doha is going to get ass blasted if they tracer/soldier mirror proper/kilo
agree
they wont
do u overrate doha?
cause imo doha is a very solid low c tier dps player
no i rate the dallas DPS very fairly
wheres edison
agree
dallas as a unit aren't going to try and mirror a comp that they're worse at
counter strating was a lot of what they did last year
forcing comforts and shit like that.
shock vs dallas is really just can the shock DPS carry enough to bring them over the line IMO
because otherwise fuel are looking like the better overall roster
because if finn can diff fielder enough i think it very well can be the rookies taking the W
i think shock's keys to victory is isolating hanbin actually
I think crusty knows this as well
hanbin is prob the best player on fuel by far
u remove hanbin
if their DPS can coordinate enough with the rest of the team to single out hanbin they will win
and then ur team can just win
That will not
Happen
Fielder matched shu
just look at the shanghai vs seoul game where the dragons forced many mistakes out of smurf zarya and caused him to be isolated from rest of team
until it happened
unfortunate because hanbin zar
and smurf zar
very diff
???
yes it will be harder for the shock to do it
especially since they are not shanghai calibre
i think hanbin zar > smurf zar
but it is their key to victory
nothing wrong with that
in fact thats a very cold take
sure
smurf is a top 3 zarya
which is that their strategy will probably be similar to shanghai's
since their DPS and backline is shock's strong points
and imo the difference between shock and fuel dps line between shd and seoul dps line
is much bigger
i did
very based doubter then
its not about that though
No I agree
It's just they will have easier time winning once hanbin down
i agree with that yes
on monkay compositions
fuel are rly good
especially on the maps
they will play them on
i was just meaning to say that the dragons as a team unit have already proven themselves to be very good at coordinating with one another
to something you cannot expect from the shock's rookie roster
i also believe that hanbin's bubble disclipne can be punished
maybe
because usually hanbin dislike bubbling himself
if shock can as you said isolate him
just isolate him
i think smurf likes bubbling himself more anyway
genius idea
though i must admit that watching the dragon's earlier games was like watching a team playing overwatch 2 but they haven't been told that they only have 1 tank
and that they were playing OW1 still
fr!
Fielder will simply
you say that but i'm not sure
Care hanbin
so there is the potential that the shock roster can get some nerves from LAN
it feels like owl are setting dallas up for failure
but the O2 squad has had LAN experience though
cause they're naming it the
DALLAS FUEL
Kickoff Clash
that's in Dallas
that gives out blue sprays
that has Dallas as the favorites
is that by their own decision?
just like how last year we had the Hangzhou Spark Homestand
Ah
Or the Shanghai Dragons Homestand
Okay so then ignore what I said
i thought the owl organized
it in dallas
not dallas fuel invited people
the knockouts for hawaii were played in homestands
hype as shit
they had the CN all stars game 😎
private leaderboards
LETS FUCKING GO
@north relic I'm doing something helpful
listening to music that's not rage against the machine ingame
also unironically the jjonak strat of meditation
road to no tilt
🙏
So who gonna replace them?
dpei jjanu fawkus
Even my advertisements can’t get enough of the Hadi vs Gator duel
FAT FUCKING W
Seicoe is dps
Shut up
Their coaches were a bright spot
In their darkest times
No more zoning blade master
every sign points to vancouver picking up a maintank btw
maybe sado