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Imho

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irony is lobby filler

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thats not a terrible take (bad take) however

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there is no

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"gap"

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you cant

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unfortunately

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If you think Shock isn't properly tested

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Fleta

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then Dallas isn't properly tested

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Hold

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However both teams are indeed

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Shanghai

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properly tested

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Back

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Imo

hot onyx
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I think there is a gap between the rest of the apac fs

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And Aimgod Coldest

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houston/justice/glads/toronto/paris/boston was dallas's schedule

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u are wrong

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TBH

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imo

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is anyone arguing shock hasnt been tested after glads

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Coldest is terrible

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this fucking bozo on twitter

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apparantely

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Lol apac flex supports

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Are so ass

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Compared to NA

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they should meet finn

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shu

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and fielder

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UV!

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they are not comparable

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It is funny how

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Da bong

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Would be top 3 Apac

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shock played nyxl titans london paris

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Fs

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all those teams were bottom 3 when they played them'

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Shock are properly tested imo

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agree but dallas schedule was far harder

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they played week 1 happy

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who is the best player

earnest leaf
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Dallas schedule was a tiny bit harder

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They faced glads, and titans(on off tank compositions)

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in history

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2 impressive wins

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Also

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Shock didn't get 3-0 swept by outlaws

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coluge is probably the swolest guy

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in owl right

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like legit he's prob the biggest and strongest?

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It isn't

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Mickd

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myun isnt a top 3 FS in apac

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what so ever

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Was also a top 4

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Apac FS

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mcd was generationa

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in s4

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imo

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No

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his zenyatta was revolutionary

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He was just apac

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disagree

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He may have 5th

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If you count

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The monk

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imo kng mykl fan

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more stupid than usual

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this afternoon

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I am not

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🍵

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Imo

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Apac FS

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Is really bad

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This season

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i do agree

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its not rlly bad

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just shittier than na

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Also apac dps are also

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Worse than the NA

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Region

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lol

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MMonk has never been the problem on Hunters

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the region that has

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Also NA tanks

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seicoe

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Also better

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backbone

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Than the Apac

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patiphan

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Region

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patiphan

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NA bias

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in my opinion

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than nobody

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Than beckay

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in apac

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Imo

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no

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he is not

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becky is better

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imo

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becky > seicoe

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I have never seen

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Becky play

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i know

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becky has

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you ahve not

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But I hate apac

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decent moments

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at times

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seicoe has

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i know you have never seen valiant

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So seicoe>becky

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0 moment

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but seicoe is shit

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Ok

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in my opinion

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So is Becky

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yes but becky less shit

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Bigger acomplishment than anything

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Becky has done

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Imo

hot onyx
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Becky has won a match in Overwatch League

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Na ot

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Not named

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Hanbin

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A negative

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Is a little region

willow tartan
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sadly i actually watch the games

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unlike you

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i have brain computational activity

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in a 1v1

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much more impressive than solo utling

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than apac

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curious

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proper

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who was 1hp

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Becky seems pretty good

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imo

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idk about all that robert

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And ya I agree na looks weaker

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All the Apac fans would be like

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bottom 3

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lol

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easily

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Nyxl and boston dominate apac

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Teams

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Like

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put chengdu on NA

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they are like fourth

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Valiant

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Charge

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Hunters

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charge with choisehgod would body

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half of NA

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"noo oh no APAC is so inconsistent waaah aaah"
no. the teams are actually just performing good and outplaying one another

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Fusion

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imo

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you put any of the top 4 apac

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Imo

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in na

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they are top 7 na easily

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imo

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lol boston would get bodied

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by charge

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Nyxl would be a mid team

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In apac

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Sadly

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seoul shanghai spark and arguably chengdu and philly would all raw dog every na team except shock glads and fuel

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imo

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Yaki top 2 flex damage player

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reign would lose to every apac team rn

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In apac

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lol yaki would be bottom 3

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in myo pinion

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Kellan top 3 Tank

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In apac

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no basis

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for your claims

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imo

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Bong top 3 FS

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In apac

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you put valiant

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imo u are just spewing

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stupid shit

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out of ur mouth

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against

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unfortunately

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any na team

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except the big 5

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Valiant

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and they beat them

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easily

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Do not beat titans

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i agree

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Imo

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valiant MOP titans

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coach diff

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No basis

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For that claim

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valiant have won a game

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titans could not

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user of brain

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imo

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Titans had a hard schedule

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And played

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no they just suck

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False monkey

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APAC has no strength of schedule bias because you play against every team every stage

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unfortunate cope

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So it is an ez schedule

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No matter what

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Imo

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NA region

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except the top 3

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Seoul would own

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All of na except top 2

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Same with shd

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Glads have unfortunate crutches

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With Reiner monkay

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And Patiphan

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Imo

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Reiner monkey is better than guxue

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Monkay

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Imo

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it is not

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Reiner isn’t even better then stand1

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On monkay

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Imo

worn falcon
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Stand1 was top 2 apac MT

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get fucked

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At peak

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Imo

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And top 1

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Na

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Na on top

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No not on top

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He was

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Bottom 2

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NA

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Untrue

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Statement

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He was

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Hadi better

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Oge

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In wheel meta he was top 2

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Better

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With moose

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Hot take

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Val is better then.nyxl

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Due to DPS diff

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nyxl is so bad

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rn

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It is funny how nyxl has goats

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Like yaki

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Ngl I take Becky diya over nyxl dps

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Flora(apac only)

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Lmfaoooo

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Bong

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And people

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Flora in aaps

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Apac

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A menace

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Imo

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Rate Val over them

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Kuki holdin him back

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Like he did to the qb

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Imo

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Apac is bad

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Sadly

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In NA

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Flora has to face

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Goats like

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Mops

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Happy

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Diya and Becky feel more consistent then florra and yaki

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Kai

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Ans

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Na he comp

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Sparkr

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Ok

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Heesu

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Aspire

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He gapped half of those playas

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Shockwave

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Especially ansass

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On wid

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Victoria

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Who else

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Is an NA HS

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Oh yeah

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Kilo

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Proper

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Merit

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Shut up

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APAC has played significantly more sniper heroes than NA

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Already

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Apac dps

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Own na dps

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fits and lip owns

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Hydron

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every NA HS

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My big 3 of hs players

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Ngl I feel like uprising has a better dps duo now

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Are apac

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Xzi

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Then when striker was in

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Decay

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Victoria an upgrade

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But people cannot admit

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victoria is

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i was hoping

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Decay hasn't played hitscan in so long

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Every NA HS gaps flora

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victoria striker

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Hs

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Ssdly

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alas

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We will come to see the two regions clash in the Midseason Madness.
APAC SUPREMACY

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Sometimes

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All of them

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Except kilo

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Imo odd to Stan a widowmaker otp like happy

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Just me though 🤷

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I don't think I rate Flora a top hs

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I hate all of you

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Agree

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He just flexible to tracer

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nobody asked u

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Thinks

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Happy

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"treeko"

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Is the goat

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"valorant" fan

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But they don't agree on moose

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It’s only you

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sadly

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lol

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Who do you take

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And odd na pros

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Imo

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No top analysts

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Flora tracer from.last.year or yaki tracer?

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Like me

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Everybody stans happy

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Flora

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happy peaks high A on occasions

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Happy has always been S

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Happy is inconsistent player

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Never A

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Happy is a low s tier widowmaker

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Only S

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imo kilo is best hitscan in NA

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Low a tier

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It is happy

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McGee

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Mid b tier Ashe

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Happy is best HS

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low s widow

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In NA

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everything else

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Top tier doom

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not s tier

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Kai crying in the corner

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Mid echo

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Mid genji

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Mid tracer

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so deserved

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imo

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Happy is a solid b tier tracer

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But his proj is not real

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Happy is an A tier sombra

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Imo

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You are stanning

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A myth

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ehh

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Happy sombra is c tier

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Happy plays tracer?

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On echo

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Imo

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Bias

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Take

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Cuz you added imo

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At the end

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I can tell

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Like I seen him play tracer but it didn't look good

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gapping doha on echo isnt even really an accomplishment worthy of note

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doha got gapped echo a lot last season

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Ya

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Doha top character is Sombra but even then he like the third best imo behind fits and lip

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Happy gapped

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Decay

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fuck didnt sparkle bench him on echo a lot of the time too lol?

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On tracer

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Sadly

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Unless I'm missing anyone

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Happy was also an A tier

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Zarya

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In goats

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Making things up

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Is very odd

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i agree

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Happy mei is revolutionary

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imo should visit a doctor

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i can recommend one

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if you need

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Kng mykl fan making things up to prove a point

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Very odd

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imho

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Imho

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Yznsa said on stream he watches happy's pharahs vods

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???

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Yznsa is also irrelevant

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Ya

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He is best pharah ever

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wrong

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In contenders

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And he thinks happy is 2nd best

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Pharah

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Ever

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fleta is the greatest counter pharah to grace the overwatch league

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Which doesn't say much imo

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To keep spreading

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fleta heesang and sparkle all clear yszna pharah

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Misinformation

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Imo

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stop spreading lies please

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@twin bloom is this your way

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If admitting defeat

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This

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Is misinformation

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Wast He a console player?

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Yes

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I can

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Provide this "proof"

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can u prove that

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ysnza is

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pharah goat

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He is

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wait no dont show me

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Just like ballgdh

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a youtube thumbnail

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Is best ball

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Ever

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okay holy shit

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king myxl fan

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please stop trolling at this point

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you are being moved down to a D tier analyst

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imho

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Its not troll

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Ballgdh

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that makes it even worse 💀

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Is revolutionary

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On Ball

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imo

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imo

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whenever lucio becomes not meta

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shock just win that stage

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imo the next stage is international so they lose to shanghai dragons

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I disagree

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i don't think shd beat the top 2 na

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even in the lucio meta 4 shock

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imo shanghai

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will only get better

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i agree

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but so will shock

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i also think shd players have all reached skill ceilings

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shanghai peaks higher unfortunately

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every shanghai player has already peaked

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shanghai has ping problems rightt

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with exception of lip

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they had the 3 cable setup

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???

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but only 1 works or some shit

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they only have 1 cable installed

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fleta has already peaked

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they were going to install more

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izayaki has already peaked

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but covid

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ljg has alr peaked

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fate has alr peaked

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nobody can touch

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LJG

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WhoRU played the best overwatch this stage as he had in YEARS

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in his role

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unfortunately

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covid lockdowns in china are being lowered at least

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whoru and fleta

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rawdogs

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s9mm

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they need to put proper on genji

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sadly

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and then lip

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can take care of kilo

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ezpz

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LIP is cementing himself this year as a top 1 hitscan i can feel it

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they wanted like 1 cable for social media, 1 for games and 1 for casual usage but rn only have 1 set up

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but most of shd imo peaked alr

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i mean think of it like this right

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leejaegon peak MS > viol2t MS

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fate/void peak > coluge peak

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i dont think coluge really peaked

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Yea but

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LIP probably best player in the server

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as much as fate has

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proper diff

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LIPfferential

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last year

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lol

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fits gave him contention

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not last season

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lip sad sombra otp in s4

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This year he has a chance to prove himself as the undisputed top 1 hitscan

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cause hitscan is actually relevant

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imo

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with his dominance on the sombra

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yes but sombra

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is weird character imo

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one of the "funny" characters

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next to junk

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torb

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fits is better than lip

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and bastion

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Shut up levy

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on the widow

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no jazzy hear me out

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by a small margin

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imo

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Lip widow is generational

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so is fits

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TBH

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LIP kinda diffed shy and fits when shanghai played against them

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no lie

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Fits is better at duels

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imo fits widow>lip widow but lip ashe > fits ashe

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But lip kind of just raw dogs teams

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sombras been meta

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like 45x more than those

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fits has actually

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he was having so much impact

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I watched

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on the sniper hero

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never been diffed

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on widow

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being meta doesn't make u not a funny character

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ever

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imo

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in his entire career

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Nah diem dogged on him

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In summer showdown

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he was putting respect

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like symm was meta for na last year

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imo

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Diem is the greatest widowmaker to ever grace the video game

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symm still a funny character

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o7

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like junkrat

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since diem is an icon

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Agree

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says

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"ans"

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He will

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Lol

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ans playstyle unfortunately not as pro gamer as Diem's

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ans is just not

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in the hall of fame

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after his playoff performance

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unfortunately

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Here he issss

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Is this actually a hot take

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that ans had the highest peak on widow

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Eh

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highest peak

tropic herald
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is diem

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in season two

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imo

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Birdring had the highest one game peak

raw ermine
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In history

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No highest peak was ans s3 on widow

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No meme if you disagree you're actually coping or brainless

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Unfortunately ratio

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since he got shit on

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guiryo diffs sadly

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end of s3

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Sadly ans is better than any of your favorite HS players

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Ans spent all of playoffs getting rocked

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cope and seethe

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Even carpe on Ashe was raw dogging him

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ans was

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your faith blinds you, flame knight

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the worst hitscan

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in the top 4 teams

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Ans is literally a d tier hs player

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by a decent margin

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Now you guys are just trolling me

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cringe!

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there are stats

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ANS is a fraud 😖
Waits for the real chad Reiner to ping widows before taking duels 😼

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that back it up too

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And you would only want him on ur team as rotational

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heesu

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better stats

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than ans

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in the playoffs

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And he was getting swept

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Lmfaoooooooo

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i dont have the graph but

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damage per ten and elims

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fits

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top right

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Stat wise ans was worse considering shock played more around the tracer ball dive comps for koth

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by far best

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flameknightt don't talk about the shock challenge

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heesu and diem

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So shock moved a bit away from the pocket ans challenge

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middle

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ans

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Ans widow was rlly good cuz whenever he woul get his shit pushed in

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bottom left

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In Ashe mirror

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He would just swap to wid

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idk what to say i just think that diem is the more explosive widowmaker compared to how ans played the game in 2020

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||God Flameknight disgraces the actual Shock fans||

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mmmm

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Anyways cope and seethe

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difference in the playoffs was

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ans> all

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flameknight

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everytime i think

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wow this guy

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How is that diff from How any team played koth

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Lol

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maybe not too dumb

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It was never centered around a widow

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At all

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unlucky

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the difference in the playoffs was the fact that blizzard released a random patch that cucked over like 5 different teams

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Or an Ashe

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cope and seeth

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e

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imo

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????

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Isn’t that

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Exactly what they did

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flameknight believer of 2020 playoffs

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insane

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Also they would’ve raw dogged shock in dog me shield

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not the norms

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imo

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Double

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Shield

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I do think the 2020 playoffs were a bit of a meme

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"a bit"

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Big W for me

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That does not bandwagon to Shock

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On the basis of multiple titles

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You are literally flexing beating shd in that meta

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But it showed shock was the best team that season due to their ability to adapt to the meta and beat people on it

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Like they didn’t sweep u guys last year in playoffs

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memeicus how does it feel

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Lmaooo

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Or Supertf the twitch streamer funny man

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getting destroyed by gesture chad

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in map 5

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that izayaki hook 👌

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the "meta adaptability" argument is dumb as shit cause i can name plenty of other potential metas where the outcome would've been not the same

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right place in the right time

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There was almost no meta I would see shock losing the entire playoffs in s3

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Cuz you are braindead

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The only meta would be winston sombra where shd would be a bit better, but even then I think it would be very close

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a bit??

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i mean they would have gotten shitten on

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Yeah Shanghai would dog them

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by the winston sombra

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who is playing the sombra on shock again

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On that

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Lmfaooo

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that was developing

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before hog

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lip would

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cyberbully

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ans so hard

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not to mention fearless monke

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easily matches

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He would still too

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smurf

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if not better

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@earnest leaf who do u have winning kickoff clash

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Flameknightt probably was advocating

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For Choi best ot

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All s3

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Hard to say between the two because idk which comp is better

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S3

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just did shock

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Dallas win in NA. Dragons in APAC.

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ok very respectable

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that is my preds

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think I had it as a 4-2 or a 4-3

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based fuel believers

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i just think the zarya is better

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and if zarya turns out to be not better

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they have fearless on their team

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so like yanno

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if monke is better shock win

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Spark win apac

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its just the fuel dps line

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are so bad man

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in this meta

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You’ve been doubting them during preseason, now is the time to stop

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Lol colufe almost cost Shock a series against

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Reiner monkey

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tracer solider

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i take shock over dallas dps

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I promise you fearless would dog him

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very very not close imo

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if monkey is better shock win the upper finals and then fuel goes to the lowers where they proceed to completely fuck with fearless on his best hero and then have more than enough training and practice to beat shock

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Dallas don't have a tracer player near the capability of kevster

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actually

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monkey gap

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fuel doesnt have enough practice

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Not to mention

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on monkey

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Some maps

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Would literally

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and also sadly

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this dude

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Just be better for zar

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proper kilo much better than dallas dps

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in solider tracer

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fuel played almost all monkey last year

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soldier is

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Lol if u think fearless doesn’t abuse coluge in his sleep on monkey

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a lobby filler

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imo

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they hardly need any practice

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Idk what to say

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doha would do decent

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Also shock has a much better ability to swap up styles mid map vs dallas

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but the dps gap in monke mirror not close

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Dallas have to commit to one comp depending on which tank is in

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monkey gap not close either

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lol

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can play

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every tank

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at a very high level

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No team is swapping their tanks

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Lmfaooo

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If Dallas doesn’t have Hanbin they have Fearless

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is not s5 fuel

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How do you complain?

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But the dive style with winston is better suited with different dps on dallas

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Literally every team

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Plays the same tank hero

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Edison/doha is going to get ass blasted if they tracer/soldier mirror proper/kilo

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they wont

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cause imo doha is a very solid low c tier dps player

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no i rate the dallas DPS very fairly

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as players that would get dumpstered on by the top DPS

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however noting that

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dallas as a unit aren't going to try and mirror a comp that they're worse at

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counter strating was a lot of what they did last year

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forcing comforts and shit like that.

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shock vs dallas is really just can the shock DPS carry enough to bring them over the line IMO

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And finn

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as well

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should be stated

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because otherwise fuel are looking like the better overall roster

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because if finn can diff fielder enough i think it very well can be the rookies taking the W

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i think shock's keys to victory is isolating hanbin actually

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hanbin is prob the best player on fuel by far

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u remove hanbin

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if their DPS can coordinate enough with the rest of the team to single out hanbin they will win

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and then ur team can just win

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Happen

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Fielder matched shu

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could get reverse swept

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twice

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just look at the shanghai vs seoul game where the dragons forced many mistakes out of smurf zarya and caused him to be isolated from rest of team

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until it happened

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and smurf zar

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very diff

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???

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yes it will be harder for the shock to do it

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especially since they are not shanghai calibre

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but it is their key to victory

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i dont think thats a bad take

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by any margin

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nothing wrong with that

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in fact thats a very cold take

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that's besides the point however

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of what i am saying

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sure

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smurf is a top 3 zarya

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which is that their strategy will probably be similar to shanghai's

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in the league

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however

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hanbin gaps #2

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since their DPS and backline is shock's strong points

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and imo the difference between shock and fuel dps line between shd and seoul dps line

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is much bigger

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its not about that though

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It's just they will have easier time winning once hanbin down

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i agree with that yes

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on monkay compositions

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fuel are rly good

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especially on the maps

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they will play them on

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i was just meaning to say that the dragons as a team unit have already proven themselves to be very good at coordinating with one another

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like gib

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and dorado

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to something you cannot expect from the shock's rookie roster

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maybe

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because usually hanbin dislike bubbling himself

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if shock can as you said isolate him

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just isolate him

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i think smurf likes bubbling himself more anyway

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genius idea

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though i must admit that watching the dragon's earlier games was like watching a team playing overwatch 2 but they haven't been told that they only have 1 tank

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and that they were playing OW1 still

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i also think fuel has the crowd buff in the matchup

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because LAN event

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Fielder will simply

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you say that but i'm not sure

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Care hanbin

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so there is the potential that the shock roster can get some nerves from LAN

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it feels like owl are setting dallas up for failure

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but the O2 squad has had LAN experience though

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cause they're naming it the

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DALLAS FUEL

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Kickoff Clash

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that's in Dallas

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that gives out blue sprays

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they are hosting it presumably

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they are the host team

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that has Dallas as the favorites

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just like how last year we had the Hangzhou Spark Homestand

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Ah

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Or the Shanghai Dragons Homestand

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Okay so then ignore what I said

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i thought the owl organized

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it in dallas

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not dallas fuel invited people

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the knockouts for hawaii were played in homestands

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hype as shit

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they had the CN all stars game 😎

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private leaderboards

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LETS FUCKING GO

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Nooo

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Flubby and Pew

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Are goats

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Of NA OW

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This is so sad

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@north relic I'm doing something helpful

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listening to music that's not rage against the machine ingame

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also unironically the jjonak strat of meditation

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road to no tilt

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🙏

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Titans can be good now

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Pog

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So who gonna replace them?

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Even my advertisements can’t get enough of the Hadi vs Gator duel

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Woah

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It happened

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Well they dropped a main support

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Seicoe is dps

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Really?

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Honestly I thought they only had two lol

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Their coaches were a bright spot

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In their darkest times

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Seicoe is the nicest dps player

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To ever be in owl

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Ever

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maybe sado