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for dallas
shock is not gonna let heesang go like that lmao
or just to have a 4th dps
Fleta still the 2020 mvp
i have no doubt that purchasing o2blast was just to secure heesang
andy miller uses the big bucks
not to mention there's no reason for dragons to replace fleta
is heesang one of the goated dps kids from o2
Shock doesn't really have a choice it up to heesang at the end of the day
yeah
mer1t was on 02 as well
then the only team heesang is going to is shock
Fleta maybe not like peak insane as he was but hes still super fucking good
o2 is literally the shock academy team
lets not get that wrong
?? what
heesang is way better
exactly
lol
Heesang ist sign to shock
other way around
pretty sure shock get first pick on heesang
yes i know
He can pick what team he wants to go to
when is speedily 18?
i mean mer1t is from 02 blast and went to houston
lol thats not how it works
hes gonna get hyped up I imagine
shock gets first dibs
unless he quit ow or something and I don't know lol
since they are academy team
thats cause o2 blast partnered AFTER mer1t went to houston
Shock gives first options
oooh right
and maybe shock didn't want mer1t cause they thoght kilo was better
kilo is better btw
"will i sign with the org that has won 2 championships, has the most decorated coach in ow history, has multiple of my old teammates on it, or some other shitter team"
probbably
i mean mer1t is still good
follow the money lol
shock has money
and possibly they wanted kilo more anyways
andy miller is a fucking BUSINESSMAN
anyways
actual gigachad
shock will get heesang
G as well
i mean it would have to be a top team
its the whole point of an academy team
yeah
you get first dibs on the talent on your team
but mf aimgod
People will still call happy mid
fixa
yeah
I'm actually curious what tanks Philly will pickup during off season
and belosrea
same
they were expecting to have alarm
Happy is an s tier HS
Always has been
the rest of the team just needs to catch up
Yes, unfortunate timing, Rest in peace Alarm
fr
Reqless
Kyo
Me
Kinda hard to get a better support line than Astro Alarm
thats almost as good as it gets
C9 LMAO
sucks to lose that
best ssupport line possible currently
i take moth shu over astro alarm
I agree
nah
I take that
very good
language barrier
yeah
ljg is the best lucio in the world
Both are good support lines
either way
all those mfs just feel the need to solo win the map 3s lol
what are the chances that mn3 stays
yeah
on fusion next year
at that point it generally won't matter a ton
LJG entertaining to watch
leejaegon tower 
are you back
any team would be happy with any of them lol
saudi arabia's gift to esports
Who the shot caller for Dallas?
and throw after
Ohhh
its genrally going to always be the tank
Thought it was the support line
support line is important in calls
but when everyone needs to engage around the tanks
chiyo is new and i dont think fielder has ever said more than five words
not sure if jecse did
its usually easier to have tank be main shot caller
oh really
nah idk
I did
im just talking
they still have 4min
how
its crazy
cause this meta
should be amazing for them
lol
3-0 ATL and lose to Boston
Pog
yeah
Imo ATL last year was better then the ATL now
They have an awful backline
I would agree with this honestly
Ego mirrored rush
well yeah they had ir1s roty Peli and massa ( rip )
tru
than last year's ATL
That's the only thing
@Selfless_Brad Bold to blame fans and the league when we're simply reiterating and extracting entertainment out of what both Backbone and Hadi have communicated to us in two separate pieces of content.
If there's a misunderstanding maybe you should clear it up with London first rather than us
they have a tracer upgrade
was poop
but they do not play
in this meta
Last years ATL lost to defiant
At this point
In the season
They beat glads
In it
What this about?
they dont have to rely on peli or a single player as much as they did last year
I honestly feel like Nero isn't that good
he was the only consitent player on shock
uh
twilight rarely played
yes
for the most part
no cap

but ATL is nowhere near the best
at best they are top of the middle teams
imho
Not twilight violet
beta L human
if it was up 2 me i would have punched g8r
with that questionable moustache
a while ago
no offense
Gator is such a crybaby
yes
i mean in the first cycle team are usually still trying to figure it out
I agree yeah
tbf for any team\
they have a lot of time to improve
like glads last year
ATL I can see being really good
it applies to any unless you had the easiest schedule
yeah
they only lost twice
A ton of NA teams have that potential lol
yeah
like these rosters are pretty damn good
yeah
Outlaws have a good roster too
but tbf
like
rn
ATL is kinda mid
lol
I still think Glads are better than them but it is winnable
atl are still the higher teams
for ATL
especially if it goes to map 5
watch them get reverse swept again
of like
everyone trying to be the player
to end the whole game
lol
like astro 2v4 beats, kevster goes on weird flanks, etc.
they play very different
Wast mag from runaway
mag 
I think mag and decay are just trying to make something happened
is Mayhem in a nice hotel?
Glads nearly beat both
washington fraudtice
Fuel and ATl
defraud
only 2 real top teams
fluke game in my opinion
With garbage teams
chengdu
Like Valiant
can clap ATL
Charge
any duoers
i thought sirmajed was 13, he looks really young in the cam
Spark(minus irony)
you think???
ok you lost me
The bottom of apac is like the better then nyxl titans and London imo
you saying Shy and Alphayi is bad is just wrong
alphayi haoyoqian irony shy are goats
Stopl
Lmao
London would stop
valiant would rock vancouver nyxl and paris
hard agree
And nyxl
valiant would make quick work
fr
of mid tier NA teams
Val legit took dragons and Seoul to map 5
Than bottom apac
Shut up
charge > nyxl talentwise
Glads and ATL
as of rn
Are top teams
they are a little ass cheeks
I would say number one is Dallas (maybe)
Number two is Shock (Could easily beat Dallas its close lol)
Number 3 is Glads (Closest games against top teams, show huge potential if they fix up)
After that
with all due respect
is kinda a toss up
4 is either Atlanta or Houston maybe
like I can see a world where ATL loses to Mayhem and shit
rio < kellan
cr0ng >>> kellan/vulcan
develop =< flora
choisehwan = yaki
unique > gangnamjin
1987 > myunb0ng
yeah
idk who else I would put there
houston maybe
houston 5???
like them and outlaws and pretty close
I would say outlaws 5 because of flexibility?
yeah
matbe Florida even number 5
but idk about that one
tbh I really haven't watched a lot of florida but they have seen prettty good
Glads and ATL could be close
but I still think Glads is better
yeah
like yeah they got reverse swept
but it was only against the other 2 best NA teams
and they were still close ass games
that could easily gone to Glads if both they didn't choke and if Shock and Dallas didn't adapt so well
but idk
who knows at this point lol
PFFFFFFFFFFFFT
What the fucj
decay being cheeky
Decay really on the 1v5 carry sometimes
LLL
decay once again the only player that can do anything on justice
yeah
Decay channeling soon
its like mag and decay are the only players making anything happen rn
Imagine if justice took out the orisa
i thought happy was good
he is yeah
Happy is good
he tends to be inconsitient
wasnt happy the best widow at some point
maybe
if you watched happy last year he was good the first two stages then got swept by boston
Happy was SO good last season \
He was up there imo
who was the best hitscan last season?
uhh leave or Lip
Lip I think
id say Lip more
leave was more of a flex I think
He is
good point
but hitscan last year was very flexy overall
like a lot of it was just on tracer and shit
lol
or sombra
people tend to forget fleta was also a hs
leave can play any dps at a top level i assume
Ya
leave the nuttiest chinese player ?
Lip didn't get on tracer till the playoffs
lip Diffed Leave today
And he fucked on tracer
he got on tracer against dallas
hello owl enjoyers is every single game gonna be winton/tracer/soldier/ana/lucio or will they switch one day 
Lip is very good
jinmu uses haters as fuel , that's why he stilll in the league
I mean, his mechanics are very good tbh
his genji vs fusion was good
but sometimes he can make
quesitonable plays
questionable
v questionable
What is going on
wot happened
Justice just being justice
Mag got fucked by the wall lmao
lol
Mag has been very mixed so far
Donโt worry, Justice had to throw those last two maps so that my pickems can thrive when they win the next two
Easy
like he can be very good
but he feels like he isn';t the most synced with the supports
at all
Mag rein time
or maybe the supports just can't keep up idk
Coaching imo
It's not a coaching issue
They only had one improve coach they got since last year
So anyone hear about winnie the Pooh horror movie?
so far my preds are good
What's your opinion on it
Yup
unfortunately
I think it fucking awesome
but why
thats gonna be some goofyt shit
the best thing that movie can do is like
know its a joke
its concerning
Cause he's public domain
LMAO
The plot sounds interesting
I'm done thats so goofy
when horror movies have nothing else to do they make this :
Ya but it interesting lmao
I will give it a watch
Just seen brads tweet 
what did he tweet
Does nyxl play tomorrow?
nei
Ngl I just wanna see what type of shit nyxl pulls when they play lol
next tourney
I just wanna see if they can get any worse lmao
they have a win at least
my 3-1 pred looking good
same
Who owns Washington justice?
dc
Lmao magn
certified winton diff
@frosty patrol hi
Wait you serious?
winton
winton zap
Doesn't Washington play reaper?
yeah and penfed
It feels like Washington has money but don't use.it well
clearly
sirmajed op
Sirmajed is a freak
clearly
Story of all DC teams
Decay lol
my goodness
Justice and philadelphia are best friends
Didn't even put up a fight last round
they're sponsored by penfed, events dc, mcdonalds, and a brewery
LMAO
someone dab
looks like the last map they just gave uo
yeah
It looked like it was literally only decay inthe game lol
they looked so done
looked like pugs when the other team gets all high rank players and there is only one gm on the other team lol
feelsbad
Lmao
Decay looks like he tried his best too lol
honestly its so sad
Ok Dallas has to win tomorrow
comp
Decay was doing his job imo
Happy is the by far the best player
like I swear Decay could get 2 kills per fight and still lose
On justicw
idk
Eh
dallas has to not get 3-0'd
we basically qualified
He pounded
Decay was actually getting picks and shit
Kinghydron
I've heard that before out of my own mouth
Happy looked good but not impressive imo
sirmajed is a cracked ana
he didn't really do a ton this series
Decay did pretty well but it looks like he tries to super hard carry and Mag doesn't really do a ton to dive
and vice versa
Ok Dallas 3-0 Boston
Prob
maybe 3-1 lol cause that shit can happen
but Dallas 100% wins that
but who knows lol
I think Dallas needs to 3-0 tomorrow for the justice to make it
Honestly feel like the tank and supports and handicapping decay happy
LET'S FUCKING GO
That should be if not the best one of the best dps in the leauge
London upset ATL but I doubt Uprising would upset Dallas
that would be an even bigger upset lol
doubt it
eh
I think there was a time but he got wasted on Washington and Dallas when they were bad
it kinda sucks
that would be an astronomincal upset
like in his prime Decay is nuts
Paris disappointing me for not gate keeping houston of the kickoff clash
lol
It'd be insane
yeah but that one seems like a bit much lol
like
what on boston is better than Dallas
like arguably Sparkle has looked the weakest on the team
somehow
he really struggled v glads
but
idk
Nothing on boston is better than fuel

where is marve1 ?
not there
Good thing I went with a florida win in the end
Same
I would've been malding rn if I stuck with my justice to win pred
I went 3-2 tho
I also went 3-2
i went 3-1 i had nei trust
Still can't believe I switched my london pred
Lebron is the goat
wrong game
Gigachadi
swole german man
Does that mean nyxl is the toilet bowl with titans?
thats wot uber said
Imagine going back in time telling a season 1 nyxl fan that nyxl will become the toilet bowl team
or shanghai will be the team
Yes
I honestly just feel like nyxl wast that good it begin with at this point
Even on paper
they won two stages straight then bombed
who is there cod team
Nysl
ah
yeah
Good matches
Glads vs ATL also might be good
Hope glads win to boom atlanta even more
Hot take put decay on zarya
spicy
NFTank gets MTDed for a non-fungible lossโฆSAD! See you L8R Fraud Gator!!! call the Wahhbulance!! ROFLCOPTER they say lightning doesnโt strike Twice in the Same Spot, But you have Two (2) Losses! HaHa
I just realized my laptop been on for 3 days
its tough because paris doesnt even look like a team that should be 0-6
paris should be like 2-4 or 3-3
sorry but who
shut up
rest in peace dan
rest in peace, sad news
contendies will miss you
rip
Gotta be carpes doing
are we gonna see some eileen gameplay
- Good thing his team isn't going to dallas
- They're playing remotely as it is, so it shouldn't prevent him from playing. Just slap a mask on, use some hand sanitizer, and all is good
- Also good that he isn't at risk
great I am not even top 5000 now in pickems
how many points
419th :x
im at 100 points
some people said majed would not be good and he's one of the best anas rn
majed is good
But not one of the greats
but def great on ana
sure there are better but he's solidly a top tier ana
same with checkmate and someone
just people saying they'd be bad and shit
and boom they're doing really good
yessir
move over decay to zarya
he's a selfish hard carry player
feed into that and have the team support him
it'll work more then how passive the other players are
but then you wouldn't have decay tracer :(
fucking hell
at least he would be holding a grav for ow3
instead of a pulse bomb
plus far more aggressive
isn't decay the one with an insane stick rate
Which is better, pulse bombs that whiff constantly or pulse bombs that actually kill someone
Houston was doing it's best APAC impression, honestly all of NA was doing it today
1 one
like a couple of days ago I'm pretty sure it was decay just not letting the enemy ana play at all
cause you can normally hit 2/5 of your pulse
if you get 5 in 10 minutes that's two confirmed deaths but if you hit 2/2 in ten minutes in the same rate but less active
plus pulse can apply pressure
and hurt tanks without killing them
holding a fast building, high damaging ult is stupid
No sense just hurting tanks when supports can heal them back up in less than a second and accrue tons of free ult charge
Gotta be sure you can secure kills with it
even if it is just 1
I swear I've not been granted a ton of OWL tokens
number just doesn't seem right
wrong, tracers burst is good with that, good teams (not justice kekw) can play up and kill them
think of it as a reaper headshot on a hyper mobile character
I've caught nothing lately is Shanghai still best in the world
And is shock fuel glads top 3 na still
Anyone know a good wireless mouse?

Viper ultimate or modded g305 the g pro and superlight are way overpriced to justify
I found a bengoo one idk if it good brand tho
it's an off brand so probably not great, the g305 is nice for a solid starter wireless and ita only like 30 dollars
Also is that a real dog?
My pfp is one of our corgis named Winnie we have ten corgis and two litters already sold

Cute
Glorious model o wireless is a great mouse

Corgis
I have a molded g305 that is like 60 grams and a mm710 that's like 50 grams and it is stupid light
Also ya they look very nice look like it go with magma keyboard
They do look rlly nice
Model o wireless is 69 grams for reference
And that feels like air to me
Before I got the model o wireless I was super skeptical if it would actually feel good after using a heavy mouse for so long
But god does it feel good
What is the max amount of OWL tokens one could have earned by now if one has watched all matches of this season?
I've earned ~180, but I feel like that is a bit low
Add up the total hours of all the vods divide by 5
@Spitfire
Hadi skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up
#AcesHigh
1521
Gator broke into a cold sweat. There he was across the hallway, a man whose name that brought chills down his spine. Gator looked down, hoping to avoid direct eye contact. "H-hadi," Gator stuttered. "What up, virgin" Hadi boomed. Gator braced himself but it was too late. Hadi's 5000 tonne shoulder slammed into his, the movement causing air waves across the room. Gator flew back and the concrete wall chipped around him. His shoulder was definitely broken. "Later, nerd." Hadi chuckled.
What of encores? Do you get points for watching those if you also watched the matches live
THE BUMPER AMENG COPYPASTA IS BACK
Yes
I think I'm just go with the g305 looks very nice I was gonna go full kda mouse and keyboard
goat
someone mentioned super and he replied with "who?" GOAT
Did hadi really boom Gator that bad? Lol
~117 hours of OWL this season unless I'm really bad at counting
X5
585
Yet I've only earned 180
getting scammed wtf
I've watched every match live from a connected account
Do you watch on the YouTube or website?
Youtube
I'm a atlanta fan
Oh I use website
but holy shit gator got fucked lmao
It lets you know if your getting tokens
also he switched off to monkey insta L
He asked hadi for a rein mirror then got fucking rolled then switched to monkey
Yes he did get boomed that bad
That legit sound like the players from ranked
If ur gonna ask for a rein mirror at least die with honor
exactly
Gator died a coward
Gators biggest L yet imo imo
Idk gator has had a lot of Lโs
nah he's cool and funny
I forgot what his name was in contenders
Funny thing is gator a better rein then mag apparently
Guess I'll watch only on overwatchleague.com
Sucks to be out that many tokens, when I've been watching
Bring back twitch
Does it start automatically if I leave it on the front page or do I have to hit play once it's live? I've noticed the streams tend to take a few minutes to show on the website whereas with youtube you can begin watching right as the stream starts
You have to press start but there a dot
Well actually
Sorry that wonโt work
If there a green dot your getting tokens if there no dot refresh the page
Because you only get tokens from the games
also Kai getter pissed off is the most emotion from this man ever
Not the broadcast itself
in his whole career
But if your just gonna leave it on I recommend just checking it once in a while because sometimes the green dot disappears
Also looked I need to watch match then
So there's been 55 matches so far I think
Each one takes 60-90 minutes
That'd be ~275 tokens
I still have only accrued 180
So either way it seems I'm missing out on some, somehow
1 Shock
2 Dallas
3 Gladiators
4 Houston
5 Florida
6 Toronto
7 Atlanta
8 Justice
that's top 8 rn, the bottom 2 have the worse coaching staff
top 2 the best
4-6 pretty solid
and glads good but not good enough
hot take
florida should be 4th
imo they're the only team that even in their losses has shown consistently and good play
true
They lost to Houston
But they didn't look bad vs houston
and aren't one tricks imo
houston off doom lost two maps to paris lmao
LR-15 is good
yea
The gap between 3rd na and 4th na is huge
Looking at nyxl
They have lost to reign glads shock mayhem defiant
5/6 of the top of NA
sos copium injected
yea
kariv hasn't played outside of a map or two iirc
but yea they are doing pretty well
their coaching seems to be solid
outlaws omg
florida coaching staff is beyond nutty
He's played a map?
I am 99% sure original plan was for him to switch to monkey
Cause venom was in
If they wanted to play brawl the whole time nero would have been in
in one of the first games when majed was having visa troubles
ATL boomed
monkey was the backup in case something went wrong
If monkey was the backup
They woulda had nero
In
Lmao
Because
Venom
Is a tracer one play
And nero is a better mei than venom could ever dream of being๐
doesnt invalidate my point
atlanta thought that they may as well fuck w the rush thing and if it doesnt work out they can always just go monkey tracer
my heart says seoul
but shanghai is shanghai
if there's anyone that can give fits da goat a pummeling its lip
seoul went to map 5 with valiant and spark too (lost as well)
apac is wonky ok, my preds will get boomed either way
Sell me on a dragons win Mr. Shanghai Dragon
LIP is a god gamer on the hitscan and can match or even bully Fits
Seoul supports massively gapped
Void zarya > Smurf zarya
Fleta/WhoRU > Profit/Stalk3r
True
Better hope feedjaegon doesn't make an appearance
Narrowly below Zebosai
Sorry hunters, highly doubt you're making it in
It is more than possible for Hunters to get in
Whomegalul
Basically if they sweep Valiant and Fusion take less than two maps against Spark Hunters are in
Or if Fusion get swept by Spark and Hunters beat Valiant 3-1
owl is a mess*
lol
Damn they done switched their colors
Seoul Dynasty more like Michael Jackson
the real fight rn is the ObsBastion vs ObsBrigitte
Who is Bastion and Brigitte and why are people calling them obese?
BOSTON UPRISING WINS
BOSTON UPRISING WINS!!!!
Holy shit I canโt believe Boston took a map off the Dragons

BOSTON THE GOAT #1 IN APAC
Why are there no Boston Uprising fans when you need them?
Wait I forgot Boston Uprising has no fans
@devout path
Na production
Well that was certainly Overwatch
Has any non korean or chinese players played in APAC
I think I've worded that correctly
๐ช
fusion last year
philly roster last year had astro and shockwave
poko is korean
did he even play ๐
no
gator is a actual fucking clown
chad lip
this is why i don't pred seoul LOL
winnable
coaching between maps obv
he looked so upset
it looked like he was told to get up and take a lap or get some water
Ye but everyone else was still chilling Smurf looked like a kid that got called to principle office
Thank you answering early btw

jaeGOD
noooo
holy
gg
dynasty in shambles
smurf looked so sad
Two maps where Seoul could have won
shanghai dragons decided to play with their monitors on today
i dont think they can get that fixed until after the tournament cycle
WhoRU #1 genji in the multiverse
Lmao
Still riding the high of that dub
Seoul are tied for the least map wins vs Dragons this season
washed up??
who cares irrelevant team time to pray for Valiant
#wingsup
let's not go that far
but if Valiant wins two maps Hunters are out
and Fusion are in
@frosty patrol
did he say 631 days?
Why does na have so much production issues lol
I feel like at this point I feel like they do it on purpose
because even though the games are in APAC the producers are in canada barely awake from 3-8 AM doing the minimum to not get fired
chengdu do you even want to win
feed gets sent to their studio in toronto
I'm rewashing the London vs Atlanta
I miss the match
How the hunters vs val match?
val winning

