Let’s see who gets in on apac first
#esports-discussion
shut bobcat
tidal marsh
spark
errant hornet
idfk who is best in apac at this point
like any day one of those teams can shit hte bed
shut bobcat
Yeah
errant hornet
and valiant and charge are pretty bad tbf
shut bobcat
Shanghai?
mortal cipher
they are also known for srewing up the most in apac
shut bobcat
Oh
split flume
paris threw 
tidal marsh
seoul spark and dragons are guaranteed in for apac in my opinion
mortal cipher
shanghai are known to start out rough tho
lost thicket
Pelican tapping into his 2021 self
tidal marsh
fusion and hunters are 50/50 for me
errant hornet
idk I just can't ever bet on seoul lol
dark hedge
and valiant and charge are pretty bad tbf
valiant arent awful
stuck radish
i think shock will win this tourney
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seoul spark and dragons are guaranteed in for apac in my opinion
in for what
wicked pendant
i think shock will win this tourney
Same
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lmao
mortal cipher
fusion and hunters are 50/50 for me
fusion probably doing a fusion
errant hornet
valiant arent awful
yeah but compared to the NA teams lol
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only 2 spots
lost thicket
Someone tell me the apac score
tidal marsh
in for what
kickoff clash
errant hornet
I would put them mid at best
dark hedge
yea
mortal cipher
valiant arent awful
valiant look better
tidal marsh
there's only 2 spots
theres 4 spots
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there's 2 spots
errant hornet
Philly SHOULD be up there but they are getting boomed rn somehow
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lol
errant hornet
cause its philly so ofc
shut bobcat
Philadelphia would go to kickoff clash and get 3-0ed by proper bastion
stuck radish
tidal marsh
there's 2 spots
stuck radish
4 spots
split flume
the houston midlaws
mortal cipher
i think philly took the spot from hunters
errant hornet
Philadelphia would go to kickoff clash and get 3-0ed by proper bastion
so would any apac team lol
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there's 2 each region
mortal cipher
because apac is a harder region than NA is
errant hornet
overall but they don't peak nearly as hard as NA
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top 5 in apac
errant hornet
average in NA is lower
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shits on everyone in NA
errant hornet
ok but we are talking about winning the kickoff
lost thicket
Wrong lmao
tidal marsh
I dont think apac play NA in the kickoff clash
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better read on in the meta as well
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Are top NA
they are not
twin bloom
With ATL being top 1
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unfortunately
mortal cipher
I dont think apac play NA in the kickoff clash
every other cycle so next one
stuck radish
atlanta just lost to london
twin bloom
One game
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still running doom
shut bobcat
Are glads not top 4 atleast
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headass
twin bloom
Doesn't matter
mortal cipher
atlanta just lost to london
apparently
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glads would get shit on
lost thicket
Top 4 apac is 2-6 na at best, dynasty can still do a dynasty, Philly can still choke, spark can still throw
errant hornet
but they choke hard
shut bobcat
You think so
errant hornet
like they both play down to opponents and choke against the SUPER top teams
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easily
errant hornet
like it feels like watching
tidal marsh
shock has just looked so dominant
lost thicket
The only apac team with a good chance of winning imo are dynasty, dragons and spark
next mesa
there are 2 teams on apac's level in NA
mortal cipher
shock has just looked so dominant
for now
errant hornet
the glads of maps one and two are not the same as the last maps lol
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shock and fuel
stuck radish
top 5 na imo is shock dallas glads mayhem justice
errant hornet
shock and fuel
glads could be imo
split flume
here is how na works: shock = fuel > everyone else
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top 5 na imo is shock dallas glads mayhem justice
3 of those teams are very bad
lost thicket
While I could see shock, fuel and justice if they get their shit together
stuck radish
shock dallas are a tier above the others though
mortal cipher
the glads of maps one and two are not the same as the last maps lol
glads and sweep dont mix
wicked pendant
JUSTICE?!?!
lost thicket
Glads if they aren't boomed
errant hornet
JUSTICE?!?!
kek
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as for "higher peak"
mortal cipher
justice lost to boston
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we have not even seen dragon's highest peak yet
lost thicket
JUSTICE?!?!
"If they get their shit together" so probably not
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stuck radish
JUSTICE?!?!
its either them or toronto/houston
tidal marsh
i'd put toronto over justice
errant hornet
they are bottom feaders
mortal cipher
id go with toronto over justice
lost thicket
Yes
errant hornet
at their peaks they are nuts
shut bobcat
we have not even seen dragon's highest peak yet
Their highest peak will be choking to Seoul or smth
errant hornet
but the issue is that
lost thicket
Better then all of apac
errant hornet
they are
wicked pendant
Justice on a good day is better than 99% of owl
Too bad they've got nothing but bad days then
errant hornet
incredibly
lost thicket
Besides dragons
errant hornet
inconsistent
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justice is maybe #3 peak
lost thicket
When they do good
errant hornet
Too bad they've got nothing but bad days then
yeah
static pond
Did the match finish
errant hornet
thats the thing
static pond
?
shut bobcat
Did the match finish
No
drifting mauve
I really really hope Paris wins over Houston
errant hornet
they are so fucking weird as a team
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ohm
tidal marsh
Did the match finish
which?
errant hornet
its like the seoul of past years esp in NA
like they will randomly just be bottom 2 in region
last nimbus
How did pelican survive that
static pond
Oh then why is MAYHAM telling me there match coming up lol
stuck radish
mayhem v justice is the game after this
errant hornet
im saying in paper they are insane and they tend to play well they are just hard chokers is all
like idk
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im talking about your justice take
tidal marsh
Oh then why is MAYHAM telling me there match coming up lol
its 2-0 paris rn but it does feel like its gonna go to a map 4
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its an L take
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your argument is
mortal cipher
its 2-0 paris rn but it does feel like its gonna go to a map 4
reverse sweep here we go
wicked pendant
Potential doesn't mean squat if they do nothing but choke
errant hornet
they tend to have periods of being really good and than are dogshit
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they are better than 99% than all owl teams if they have a "good day"
errant hornet
Potential doesn't mean squat if they do nothing but choke
yes but no
glads show they are good
tidal marsh
theres been too many reverse sweeps in NA
wicked pendant
Yes just yes
raw ermine
just came back
errant hornet
they just need to fix up their shit
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even on "good days"
raw ermine
wtf 2-0 paris
last nimbus
mer1t got da moves
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not really
errant hornet
and then shit the bed for 3 weeks
rince and repeat
its not copium
im not defending them lol
errant hornet
they are clearly inconsistent and shit most of the time
but like
bro
they are good 2% of the time lol
errant hornet
like idk
errant hornet
its not that crazy
wicked pendant
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
mortal cipher
peli disappearing act
vagrant jacinth
Spaghetti dropped
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they are good 2% of the time lol
oh wow
errant hornet
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ffeels bad
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how impressive
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lol
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Justice on a good day is better than 99% of owl
here you go
lost thicket
Holy shit reverse sweep time
errant hornet
when they aren't shittingthe bed ofc
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such severe cope
lost thicket
such severe cope
Your favorite team is dynasty
tidal marsh
one moment
errant hornet
saying a team is inconsistent is cope?
frosty patrol
Dynasty isn’t a bad favorite team
lost thicket
You have no right to speak
frosty patrol
glads is much worse
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Your favorite team is dynasty
im very realistic about their performances
unlike most people
errant hornet
Dynasty isn’t a bad favorite team
depending on the time lol
I just feel like historically dynasty has been holy inconsistent
so I just personally find it hard to bet on them but rn they are really good
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I just feel like historically dynasty has been holy inconsistent
you have not been watching
frosty patrol
yes but it’s not got a bad fanbase
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OWL
frosty patrol
unlike
frosty patrol
glads shock fuel etc (the bad fanbases)
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also fan of a team
frosty patrol
shock being easily the worst one
errant hornet
glads shock fuel etc (the bad fanbases)
tbf the largest teams are always gonna have the worst ones
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?
errant hornet
just being honest
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what are you talking about fr
frosty patrol
justice charge hunters spitfire have good fanbases
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im just talking about being a fan of a team in general
frosty patrol
eternal too
wicked pendant
He's saying he's a fan of Dynasty so even if they're shit in whatever timelime, he supports them
errant hornet
what
balmy wolf
justice charge hunters spitfire have good fanbases
L + fuel beats ur team
tidal marsh
if houston win this, this would be the fourth reverse sweep of the kickoff clash qualifiers
errant hornet
incredible
what?
frosty patrol
L + fuel beats ur team
this is why fuel fans are not mentally okay
errant hornet
all I said is that on a good day they are a fantastic team
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TBH
errant hornet
most of the time they are shit tho
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ohm
errant hornet
they just have high peaks
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that is not what im talking about
errant hornet
?
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at all
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that question was like 3 conversations ago
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Justice do, don’t let me and essenzhou taint your perspective
agree essenzhou
errant hornet
bro this whole time all you were sayin is that they are dogshit 99% of the time lol
I agreed what
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kinda fucks
errant hornet
idk what the fuck you are even talking about
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Justice do, don’t let me and essenzhou taint your perspective
tbh you know justice fans
they are mostly bad because
errant hornet
you literally claimed I was a justice fan without me saying it lol
errant hornet
idk
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you literally claimed I was a justice fan without me saying it lol
never did
wicked pendant
I deeply dislike Decay for reasons I am unsure of
frosty patrol
decay simps are extinct in the actual justice fanbase communities
they exist places like r/owl
split flume
defraud
stuck radish
i dislike decay since he made shock lose a map to dallas fuel back in early season 3
errant hornet
decay is so weird
mortal cipher
lol
errant hornet
like thats all I can say
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oh no
wicked pendant
I dislike Justice because I haven't forgiven them for what they did to the Titans last year in the lead up to the breadbowl
mortal cipher
danteh time
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that is true
errant hornet
danteh time
ah danteh is in, I think they may play doom idk who
frosty patrol
doom b hella exploitable
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playing doom is a throw
errant hornet
tho
mortal cipher
ah danteh is in, I think they may play doom idk who
imagine he doesnt play doom
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very predictable comp
errant hornet
imagine he doesnt play doom
lol
frosty patrol
imagine danteh locks the rein
errant hornet
if he replaces piggy on zar I will fucking die
mortal cipher
if he replaces piggy on zar I will fucking die
if he does???
mortal cipher
danteh orisa???
errant hornet
danteh orisa???
ayo?!
errant hornet
I wish orisa would get played ngl
she is fun asf
but like
she is kinda exploitable
lol
idk what they do abouit it lol
mortal cipher
yeah
wicked pendant
PARIS
WIN
COME ON
DO IT
I'm not even a fan of the Eternal, I just want this to be a day of upsets
errant hornet
yeah you can see the difference between how the play with doom and without
its like
mortal cipher
I'm not even a fan of the Eternal, I just want this to be a day of upsets
for NA at least
errant hornet
so much more organized Iswear
mortal cipher
houston look better on this comp than the piggy zarya
errant hornet
houston look better on this comp than the piggy zarya
yeah
it just looks like they scrimmed one 20x more
vs the other
wicked pendant
Holy shit Paris getting rolled
raw ermine
L
errant hornet
I just don't think danteh doom works vs the best teams tbh
mortal cipher
yeah
like i know doom is figured out at this point but it looks so much better its natt and day
errant hornet
like i know doom is figured out at this point but it looks so much better its na...
yeah
errant hornet
thats what happens when you mostly scrim dps doom
wicked pendant
.... Did Outlaws use an ult or did they just keep working them in the neutral?
errant hornet
they kinda trapped themselves lol
mortal cipher
.... Did Outlaws use an ult or did they just keep working them in the neutral?
i didnt see one
wicked pendant
Goddamn
stuck radish
.... Did Outlaws use an ult or did they just keep working them in the neutral?
they had 5 ults at the end of a 100-0 round so
mortal cipher
houston wanted paris to get some map wins
errant hornet
idk why put in daan
like the zar was working for them
they just aren;t good at dive
lol
mortal cipher
houston was trolling with piggy
mortal cipher
glister yer on paris not london
wicked pendant
It really DOES seem like they did nothing but practice Danteh on tank
It's like a completely different team
errant hornet
it seems to be the best comp
for them yeah
but idk if it counters better teams
but idk
mortal cipher
for them yeah
that wot i mean its their best comp
errant hornet
watching the difference between piggy bubbles and danteh engage
its not even close
mortal cipher
its completely different
wicked pendant
Dominant
stuck radish
houston reverse sweep
fathom igloo
Just finish it already
mortal cipher
i rlly think Houston was trolling or seeing if piggy would work or not
gloomy vector
well doom most likely isnt gonna work against the better teams so they needed that zarya player
dark hedge
yea they were prob testing piggy tbh
mortal cipher
yeah
dark hedge
its not like they have anything to lose anymore
mortal cipher
prob
dark hedge
guranteed qualifier spot
gloomy vector
but like ive said before Houston's win con is play to their strengths
and not force a meta they are simply not great at
mortal cipher
yeah
mortal cipher
lets go
tidal marsh
lets hear it for my preds
errant hornet
but the issue is that if the doom comp doesn't work against high rank teams
you kinda half to learn the other stuff
its not like piggy is a dogshit player
tidal marsh
Yeah but its paris
errant hornet
or anything
but like
idk
play to your strengths yes
but when you want to win
having some flexibility is prob needed imo
wicked pendant
Going all in on a Doomfist comp boxes you in even harder than the London Spitfire's reliance on Rein.
mortal cipher
yeah
gloomy vector
ohm thats what i said
errant hornet
Going all in on a Doomfist comp boxes you in even harder than the London Spitfir...
its worse cause danteh prob wouldn't be good in other tanks
like
at least hadi can play winton
danteh prob wouldn't touch that
and I doubt his zar would be as good as many others
mortal cipher
you never know
errant hornet
hopefully for outlaws they can take the time and get their zarya shit good
cause piggy should be very good
mortal cipher
or another tank
errant hornet
it just looked disorganized
gloomy vector
i mean at the worst he could learn to play zarya Goats made dps play it so i can see him learning it idk
mortal cipher
yeah
errant hornet
i mean at the worst he could learn to play zarya Goats made dps play it so i can...
yeah but zarya goats is like
a very different game
than ow2
wicked pendant
Vestola should be able to do more against Doomteh
gloomy vector
but the core mechanics are there
dark hedge
its also push
errant hornet
the mechanics but you want flexibility is the issue
we saw the same issue with mirror zarya a bit ago
like
gloomy vector
i didnt say that tho
errant hornet
you already know what they are going to play
errant hornet
he maybe can but its prob just better to stick to tank player on tank lol
unless danteh full comits nad becomes a tank player
idk
gloomy vector
i mean he doesnt really when merit and pelican are insta locked dps atm
errant hornet
i mean he doesnt really when merit and pelican are insta locked dps atm
true ig
we'll see
they hopefully incorporate other playstyles better
wicked pendant
Glister fucked up his jump lol sad
Kaan is NOT having a good time against this comp
willow drum
gg
mortal cipher
this is just a rip
cunning patrol
they sub in the na player
willow drum
@plush grail nice team
cunning patrol
and we win
shut bobcat
Who won
willow drum
good reverse sweep
cunning patrol
dark hedge
poor eternal
errant hornet
outlaws will
the second they get off zarya lol
mortal cipher
eternal down horenduous
static pond
Wub is a genji player?
shut bobcat
Danteh doom must be in then
tropic herald
@plush grail hi
dark hedge
they got fucked hard by the schedule
errant hornet
wub genji 💀
tropic herald
pov genji is a shit hero
errant hornet
hes not hes just very feast of famine rn
he can absolutley pop off
but like
when you are paris
get tf\
off genji
lol
mortal cipher
who knows
errant hornet
shit team
they can beat outlaws
when they throw on a comp they cannot play
but they have no clue how to counter doom
wicked pendant
This is painful to watch
mortal cipher
this is murder
last nimbus
😐
errant hornet
pov: you are budget dallas fuel
static pond
So jmac dropped the other genji player for this?
last nimbus
Wub has been playing twice as good as naga was
last nimbus
money
static pond
Wouldn't it be better to have a spare DPS
mortal cipher
this is the opposite of the first map
gloomy vector
doesnt paris have to win like 4 fights
last nimbus
Glister was prob expensive
mortal cipher
doesnt paris have to win like 4 fights
more at this point
gloomy vector
well gg
dark hedge
poor paris
wicked pendant
That was intense at the end
errant hornet
lol gg
gloomy vector
@plush grail get fucked
last nimbus
gg 😐
raw ermine
phew
shut bobcat
Paris so ass
tropic herald
this pelican guy kinda good
shut bobcat
Bottom tier team
mortal cipher
paris how
errant hornet
well yeah
errant hornet
0-6
dark hedge
vestola looks so sad
lost thicket
Hy shit reverse sweeepppp
wicked pendant
this pelican guy kinda good
He was having the time of his life
static pond
Wait so
mortal cipher
vestola showing us his window
errant hornet
they did look better today
static pond
Can Paris playing anything besides zarya comp?
balmy wolf
wub was a mistake
lost thicket
Holy fuck that was tight
mortal cipher
houston was truly trolling theres nei way
errant hornet
outlaws just need to not play zarya for a while
outlaws are only really good at doom
mortal cipher
yeah
errant hornet
so idk
last nimbus
Y'all need to go back and watch paris week 1
lost thicket
I think paris are gonna be good once they get used to it, you cannot tell me they didn't have signs of life
wicked pendant
outlaws just need to not play zarya for a while
The issue is that top teams can handle Doomteh.
last nimbus
Cause those guys sucked even more
lost thicket
Wub reaper vestola zarya is good
gloomy vector
no its that piggy needs the practice
errant hornet
The issue is that top teams can handle Doomteh.
exactaly
it really bullies lower teams
hard
gloomy vector
it isnt that houston was trolling
outer pulsar
errant hornet
look at that london game
gloomy vector
doom comp wont work against everyone
errant hornet
the way danteh plays doom really fucks up low rank teams
lost thicket
Outlaws are like top 5 na
errant hornet
hes SUPER agro
balmy wolf
wub is not better than naga
wicked pendant
If anything, this game was bad news for Outlaws fans
drifting mauve
Honestly, all of the "bad" team have showed that they definetly could be way better, but they're sort of lacking the clutch factor
wicked pendant
Because it exposed their weakness
lost thicket
Paris is better then titans (bottom 2)
static pond
Well the problem is that wub hast played ow2 before the pick up maybe Naga could have gotten his shit together
errant hornet
Because it exposed their weakness
for sure
tidal marsh
ty danteh for saving my preds
tropic herald
errant hornet
given time they can possibly look much better at other comps
gloomy vector
i mean i knew tank was a weakness for Outlaws
lost thicket
I wanna see them get used to the comp for a bit
wicked pendant
i mean i knew tank was a weakness for Outlaws
But this game shows that it's such a big weakness when their tank isn't doom that Paris of all teams managed to do how they did
gloomy vector
that photo was awful
dark hedge
its not like paris are awful tho
gloomy vector
i mean im not concerned i predicted this
errant hornet
they just need to hard scrim piggy and lean other things
errant hornet
I think the other major issue is that they have nobody to play the 'main tank'
like who there plays monkey or rein
balmy wolf
idk if shock had the easiest
lost thicket
So I guess Mayhem 2-3 Justice
gloomy vector
shock had the easiest schedule look at it
mortal cipher
and shock had the easiest
except their middle games
gloomy vector
its still overall easiest schedule
lost thicket
Since 3-2verwatch is in the air
gloomy vector
compare it to other teams
errant hornet
yeah
mortal cipher
but they dropped a map to vancouver
errant hornet
it really only was glads that was hard game for shock
mortal cipher
wicked pendant
Sadiators lmao
errant hornet
but they dropped a map to vancouver
when they hard trolled lol
errant hornet
Sadiators lmao
fr
wicked pendant
They got reverse swept that game, right?
errant hornet
every time
mortal cipher
houston was almost a map 5 but they clutched it out
mortal cipher
when they hard trolled lol
that was defo a troll
errant hornet
lol
mortal cipher
They got reverse swept that game, right?
2x
mortal cipher
the origin of the bastion
the origin was actuallyt peli bastion
errant hornet
I fucking died when I saw that
dark hedge
who did peli play bastion against
lost thicket
The Doomteh is really embodying the "all in" motto
wicked pendant
And I sincerely hope when I wake up I see that the Justice have been swept
gloomy vector
justice is a coinflip match
mortal cipher
who did peli play bastion against
shock
dark hedge
why tf
lost thicket
With how fucking aggressive he is
errant hornet
justice is a coinflip match
for every game lol
I swear
outside of the top 2 teams in NA
like
who knows
willow drum
oml no justice is just good on 1/3
errant hornet
sometimes
willow drum
of all matches
gloomy vector
i mean i knew the outlaws were gonna win
mortal cipher
yeah
errant hornet
I just bet against justice every time at this point
willow drum
because every 1/3 of a match happy is the best player in the world
gloomy vector
i just had my pred wrong 3-1
errant hornet
its not worth it
mortal cipher
i refuse to believe justice will win
errant hornet
because every 1/3 of a match happy is the best player in the world
and decay hyper carries sometimes
gloomy vector
yeah justice probably drop the ball
willow drum
and decay hyper carries sometimes
sometimes
gloomy vector
but i still went with 3-2
errant hornet
sometimes
lol
I swear he has the highest highs
and than
just says
fuc kit
im dogshit now
drifting mauve
Even though I really hoped paris would win it was pretty obvious that Houston was still trying to make the zarya work
gloomy vector
yeah justice win con is decay hyper carry or they lose super hard ngl
errant hornet
Even though I really hoped paris would win it was pretty obvious that Houston wa...
yeah
drifting mauve
Because they knew they could dominate with the doomteh
mortal cipher
yeah
errant hornet
I was suprised they looked THAT bad on it though lool
mortal cipher
the first two maps they were praticing
errant hornet
like we knew it wasn't gonna look good
drifting mauve
It's honestly the same with the shock
mortal cipher
yeah
errant hornet
but that zarya comp was suprisingly bad
drifting mauve
yesterday
errant hornet
yeah
gloomy vector
i mean they never played it and they needed the practice since its gonna be played during the tourney
gloomy vector
i think they can do fine if they dont run it but they probably will
errant hornet
cause they don't need to sub out a player
errant hornet
i think they can do fine if they dont run it but they probably will
they are good at that comp I think it just gets countered
its like the london problem but not as bad
lol
gloomy vector
houston beat fuel with doom comp
errant hornet
first week yeah
gloomy vector
still beat them
errant hornet
dallas seemed unready for that tho
I think if that game took place today dallas would prob win
but who knows
drifting mauve
Also why is glads so low in standings
errant hornet
sparkle looks weird rn
mortal cipher
i mean dallas dont play doom so
drifting mauve
Is it just because they had a tough road?
mortal cipher
throwiators
errant hornet
if they play as well as they do on first 2 maps on all the maps
imagine
I swear
its like everyone on that team has the issue
of
THEY need ot have the game winning play
so they just split up and do whatever the fuck they want with ults
like astro will 2v4 beat and shit
or kevster will make weird solo flanks to try and kill 3
lol
etc.
errant hornet
glads still better than houston fr
static pond
So is nyxl
errant hornet
Else plays
mf is still trolling 2 hours later 💀
twin bloom
London
gloomy vector
reign literally played the doom comp btw
twin bloom
Just abused an ez comp
mortal cipher
someone still salty
errant hornet
reign literally played the doom comp btw
yeah but they are def worse at it than outlaws
like hawk plays way more passive than danteh
drifting mauve
Didn't Atlanta try to run the rein against London and got stomped or did I get that wrong
errant hornet
at this point I can't tell if he is actually real or trolling but i'ma assume the ladder
errant hornet
Didn't Atlanta try to run the rein against London and got stomped or did I get t...
just don't bother with this mf
hes either trolling or actually dangerously high on copium
like life-threatening levels
mortal cipher
Didn't Atlanta try to run the rein against London and got stomped or did I get t...
the opposite actually
gloomy vector
wait they just said there is a way justice has a chance to drop out of top 8
gloomy vector
so london could be top 8 Prayge
errant hornet
wait they just said there is a way justice has a chance to drop out of top 8
I honestly just hope they do
because
holy shit
mortal cipher
you spelled the wrong word
errant hornet
this team gives me a headache
errant hornet
so london could be top 8 Prayge
I think they are eliminated 100%
gloomy vector
oh i misheard then
errant hornet
as far as I know
mortal cipher
they are they had to 3-1 atlanta
errant hornet
yeah they needed to 3-0
mortal cipher
to get in
gloomy vector
dang
errant hornet
if only they got lijangg tower lol
vagrant jacinth
It's a race for the dub, between Paris and titans
gloomy vector
they couldve won that map too
mortal cipher
was it 3-1?
they needed a 3-1
errant hornet
ok got it
gloomy vector
so they wouldve gotten a 3-0
mortal cipher
technically yeah
errant hornet
just not illios
I wonder if the series woulda been different
I don't like to like
theory craft that hard
but illios is a very bad map for them
vs lijangg which is easier to run the rien on
Lijiang
btw who wins tomorrow?
glads or atl
north relic
glads
lost thicket
3/2 team v 3/2 team
mortal cipher
boston coudl take it instead lol
lost thicket
This is gonna be fun
drifting mauve
When are playoffs?
errant hornet
3/2 team v 3/2 team
its more like
lost thicket
#brickedup
errant hornet
a consitsent middle team
vs
a very who knows what the fuck they can be on a given day justice
lost thicket
lost thicket
a very who knows what the fuck they can be on a given day justice
True true true
lost thicket
Imagine if Justice were consistent
errant hornet
florida isnt consistent
yeah ig
but not as bad as justice
justice is the peak of wtf
gloomy vector
i mean you could be consistently bad too
balmy wolf
why they playing from a hotel
errant hornet
given last season maybe
we know how incosistent they were
but this season
there is still time for them to just prove tehy suck ass 100%
lol
balmy wolf
how many apex players are left in owl?
mortal cipher
great question
mortal cipher
wasnt profit lunatic high
errant hornet
was whoru there?
errant hornet
or was he contenders and up?
static pond
Was zxi and sparkle also there
mortal cipher
what is mags haircut
nei hair
static pond
And whoru was there
mortal cipher
Was zxi and sparkle also there
element mystic
earnest leaf
someone top 3 na mt
willow drum
decay???
static pond
Ngl
mortal cipher
so many teams are gonna go 3-3
yeah
static pond
That looked like ping
split flume
mag winton diffed
mortal cipher
justice look so bad
errant hornet
justice look so bad
this team beat ATL too lol
and then they lose to boston
like
wtf
is this
team
tidal marsh
like atl - justice - london
mortal cipher
this team beat ATL too lol
they swept atlanta then nothing since
errant hornet
like atlanta is a pretty decent team overall for the most part
at least like top 6 or so
and then they lose to boston
like
how
tidal marsh
if dallas didnt choke against outlaws they could be 6-0 with shock
errant hornet
do you do that
errant hornet
if dallas didnt choke against outlaws they could be 6-0 with shock
yeah
mortal cipher
they were top 3 at the time
balmy wolf
sad that fuel lost that match
tidal marsh
I believe the battle for texas was too early
errant hornet
I believe the battle for texas was too early
I mean its meant to build up hype in opening weekend
and you can't do LA vs 'LA'
tidal marsh
Shock V Gladss
mortal cipher
batlle of texas are always the first week
balmy wolf
dallas dont peak in the first 2 tournaments again 🙏
errant hornet
Shock V Gladss
ig yeah
tidal marsh
Battle for california
static pond
Didn't teams hey access to ow2 until like few week before the season started
errant hornet
but they wanna spread it out so that there are games within each week that are hype
mortal cipher
remember when we had battle for LA
tidal marsh
what other rivalries are there?
errant hornet
what other rivalries are there?
other than the same state shit
it'll just depend on the season
mortal cipher
we did have Philly v Shock
errant hornet
like season 3 philly v shock
static pond
Dragons and shock is kinda a rivalry
errant hornet
Dragons and shock is kinda a rivalry
yeah but within the regular season to make those hype games ig
willow drum
????
tidal marsh
the battle for europe, if both eu teams were good
willow drum
Justice how wins
mortal cipher
Dallas v Shanghai last year
mortal cipher
yeah
willow drum
Sometimes Spark v Charge
mortal cipher
how on earth florida
hot onyx
Justice pred looking alive
split flume
washington got the 15% 
errant hornet
we out
tidal marsh
Justice V London is essentially America V England
static pond
dragons vs shock makes more sense just because crusty and moon have a personal rivalry imo
errant hornet
I would say Shock v Dallas rn is looking to be the big one
static pond
At least seems like it last season
errant hornet
at least in NA
hot onyx
London in the entire western region is basically America vs England
errant hornet
and arguably Glads v Shock/ Fuel
tidal marsh
Im just trying to think of cool rivalry's based on the states/countries
mortal cipher
dragons vs shock makes more sense just because crusty and moon have a personal r...
crusty being a student of moon
errant hornet
cause those games were good
tidal marsh
none of my stuff has anything to do with the teams themselves
balmy wolf
shock v fuel is gonna be hype
mortal cipher
yeah
full lichen
Someone fumbled so hard at the end
static pond
did those teams even play against each other? <@318401351933624320>
Ya shock beat dragons play offs two years ago I think then last season dragons picked and beat shock
errant hornet
last year dallas v shanghai was soo good
balmy wolf
yeah i forgot about that
errant hornet
those games were usually bangers
balmy wolf
playoffs last year were actually gold
errant hornet
in season one, I think fusion v glads was a thing?
mortal cipher
Ya shock beat dragons play offs two years ago I think then last season dragons p...
everyone joked on it that dragons picked shock first
static pond
It was dragons Smurfing last play offs
errant hornet
for worse team
fathom igloo
There's one for the justice 2 to go
static pond
everyone joked on it that dragons picked shock first
Ye idk why dragons won two tournaments while beating Dallas and hunters
errant hornet
I mean they are a good ass team
dallas was very close to them
sucks that finals was just dragons in like giga form tho
lol
static pond
Dallas got tilted they took the hog out
static pond
Then dragons adapted and beat Dallas in the playoffs
mortal cipher
Ye idk why dragons won two tournaments while beating Dallas and hunters
imagine joking on that after seeing them wipe hunters
errant hornet
Then dragons adapted and beat Dallas in the playoffs
yeah
I think Dallas v Shanghai was still close tho
prob closer than ATL v Shanghai
mortal cipher
Dallas got tilted they took the hog out
when fearless went hog it was over
errant hornet
when fearless went hog it was over
yeah
static pond
imagine joking on that after seeing them wipe hunters
The thing that crazy is that dragons figured out hunters in like 2 days
errant hornet
Sadge
errant hornet
The thing that crazy is that dragons figured out hunters in like 2 days
well they have very similar playstyles
mortal cipher
I think Dallas v Shanghai was still close tho
i mean they beat everyone so maybe
split flume
justice really lives and dies by defraud
mortal cipher
The thing that crazy is that dragons figured out hunters in like 2 days
it was barely two days
errant hornet
i mean they beat everyone so maybe
I mean Dragons prob counters ATL harder than they did Dallas I think
last year
static pond
i mean they beat everyone so maybe
Ya but the match before that was close then hunters beat Dallas went to the final and got swept
By dragons
It scary lmao
mortal cipher
I mean Dragons prob counters ATL harder than they did Dallas I think
i mean if they could sweep shock and only go through the playoffs with only 2 maps lost then nei one was gonna be close
mortal cipher
Ya but the match before that was close then hunters beat Dallas went to the fina...
the air emp
errant hornet
i mean if they could sweep shock and only go through the playoffs with only 2 ma...
yeah idk
I am just taling playstyles
static pond
the air emp
Best emp
errant hornet
not that ATL didn't deserve the win or whataver
errant hornet
but
errant hornet
I think purley speaking ATL is worse into Dragons than Dallas last year
but ATL won fair and square and outplayted the Fuel
in playoffs
mortal cipher
yeah
errant hornet
its just playstyles
mortal cipher
its funny how reign started and ended the shock era
errant hornet
yeah
errant hornet
also funny how midish they are this year
errant hornet
is only beginning
possibly yeah
mortal cipher
started the losers run and ended the losers run
errant hornet
hopefully dallas vs shock is a banger
mortal cipher
the shock era
New*
mortal cipher
maybe
errant hornet
if sparkle stops playing so strange
next mesa
its the truth