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Ye
what happened to shanghai
And apparently next month the lock down letting up so maybe dragons can fix the issues with the internet then
Rally the CCP to let the shining star of their nation have good internet
so @ShanghaiDragons team manager forgiver explained on weibo the team's network issues
"Last year, when our base was in Guangzhou, we had three network cables installed. One for official matches, one for player POVs and Wi-Fi, and one for practice.
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Nobody understands this
ic
CCP propaganda doesn't always come across as sarcasm Mike
NoHill gets a win (impossible challenge) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
3-2
Shanghai are just boosting their map 5 wr
!jumbo 
viol2t is reverse gido
Valiant are a professional org
Valiant with more map wins this tournament than last season
i consider that a successful season
APAC is worse than na ig
of course
Like these games vs what the top of na has to offer lol
#1 apac would squeeze into top 3 NA if they're lucky
#1 apac
Maybe fusion?
Would be
and London and NYXL and Boston
But now who knows
In NA
Creative isn't gapping
Finn
Or shu
Or uv
Imo
Also proper and kevster
profit
same can be said for Viol2t
I don’t see any of these teams beating shock, Dallas, glads
agree Profit is overrated
Viol2t brig
but the hitscan talent is so much better
Can match vindaim
Again fusion has potential but that 3-0 is weird
Ok. I think kai could match fits
And i only say match and not gap
Kai is one great NA hs
And dynasty is strange
Yeah
that demolish top tier competition or get anal blasted by bottom tier competition
Sometimes they are the best in world other times mediocre
Idk
How to feel about fusion lol
mediocre doesn't lose to the Cockston Uprising
Justice had the best possible meta
For them
Imo
Mag on his one play
Don't have
To play assassin
I wouldn’t compare them the same as like Paris
The shanghai dragons have the highest map 5 winrate in the league
Now they have to move of winston
Potentially
They will fall of
Opener brig
Is atrocious
Kalios
Map 5 vs charge and valiant 💀
I feel like Philly can still be top 3-4 if they don’t throw like against dynasty
That dps lineup is crazy
Like having carps just chilling on the bench Is funny
Carpe
carpe mid
He is better than most dps in the league just not one of the best anymore
mid
Ok
You know whats sad
Nyxl
And boston
Are easily bottom teams in NA
But would still be mid
In apac
Lol
nice bait
I wish ow would change up its format a ton
If NYXL was still in apac. All the apac fans would be saying "NYXL would stomp all the bottom NA teams"
Having shit like Vancouver in the same league as even Toronto is a joke
And makes half the games boring as shit
all apac teams beat boston and nyxl
why are you interacting with this person uvalo
In the better
don't do that
Region!!
They look ok on zarya Tbf
thanks for the reminder
vancouver shouldnt be a team anymore
I would say charge are best out of those
They will beat Shock in a map 5 dogfight
I trust da processes
Mirror
Zarya
Will be the difference
Maker
ofc
false will go winston
Poor mf hard carrying
He will be on the bench
Excepts for circuit
Royale
False is so bad
In which he will prove
Lol
Monte 
His off tank
Is generational
He has only
Played 5 mins
Of it
Tho
Sadly
Sad
I also wish they would rehire casters lol
Like the newer pairs are ok
But like
Idk
Sometimes they get obnoxious
No APAC team is bottom 5 overall
Valiant
wrong
dont listen to the troll
^
everyone with a brain knows no apac team is bottom 5 overall
valiant > spitfire uprising eternal titans nyxl
@LAValiant I swear to god this is Valiant's Joker moment. There's no way you can lose in this exact way 3 times in a row. How the fuck is this possible LMAO.
Nyxl and boston talent gap
Val
awful take
All the shitty apac teams get to look good vs each other and a throwing shanghai
charge talent gap bottom 5 valiant have a 4th or 5th worst roster but great coaching
remind me who their supports are
Skairipa will pretend like he's playing against exorath
And not finn
Maybe Philly or Seoul in a non-throw phase but idk
And Shanghai looks so disorganized
top NA > top apac > bottom apac > bottom NA
APAC better on average, NA better at the top
no apac team is better than Shock Fuel or Glads
yep
but dragons could be eventually
Charge and Valiant are better than NYXL London and Boston
It goes imo
i thought you were smart mr baz
nyxl london boston eternal titans
mid NA is not better than top APAC
Spark and good day Seoul are better than Reign Justice Defiant Outlaws
Charge
nah
justice got rolled by boston?
Mayhem level
shush, redemption arc
Boston on that zarya comp
i disagree with your opinion but i will respect it like an adult
rio/cr0ng = someone/adam
develop >= hydron
choisehwan >> checkmate
unique > anamo
1987 >= majed
someone >>> rio tho
Charge would get thrashed
if charge play rio mayhem have a shot
Mayhem’s coaching is better
Charge vs Mayhem is a pure case of OT meta vs MT meta
Openerfan4
And Xzi is coming soon
Anamo is the second worst ms in the league wdymmmmm
Anamo is the only thing worse than being an invisible main support
Unique blows
Sirgoat>farawaytrash
1987 slightly better than farway
They’re both trash
But Florida has really good coaching
who would you rather have on Fuel mr dick?
anamo is worse
considering they are under Rush coaching as well
Unique or da mo?
Mo
charge vs outlaws
Anamo outperformed goats
Like jooby
Lukemino
To make mayhem
He deserves credit
For it
Imo
there is multiple messages of you referring to Lukemino as a fraud
My viewpoint
Has changed
danteh/piggy = rio
piggy = cr0ng
mer1t >= develop
pelican > choisehwan
lastro = unique
ir1s > 1987
so actually
charge are below outlaws
above mayhem
Lukemino is that last remaining support from the NAC region
That is any good
At the game
Sadly
compare them to defiant
HaloSZN
excuse you
Only sw halo
forgetting about the goat Rakatak
chong >= piggy imo
chong
Chorong?
muze >> rio
hotba < cr0ng
heesu >= develop
finale << choisehwan
ch0r0ng >> unique
twilight >= 1987
chorong?
U are r worded for that last take
Hotba <= Cr0ng and Although can take CSW off high ping
although =< choisehwan
but
visas
Choisehawn is better than Although
shock vs defiant
coluge > hotba
coluge <= muze (on winston only) anything else he gets stomped on by muze
proper > finale although heesu
kilo > heesu
s9mm > although
finn >= twihlight
viol2t < ch0r0ng
Agree
But you are underatting coluge by putting the = next to hotba
He is way better than what hotba
Could ever dreem of
Coluge was the perfect signing for Shock
Super the goat
For retring so late
That a team had to sign
Coluge
Cause visa process
Lol
? Monkey isn’t even close
Lmfao
tornado warning moment
It’s not a tornado state
last one we had was like
6 years ago
95% of tornado warnings here = no tornado
I did used to live in tornado alley
would stand on the porch and watch that shit
was fun
having to shelter in place is therefore cringe
Bro muze violates coluge on Winston lmao
On the other hand coluge roflstomps hotba
Like hotba has been genuinly bad
Yes
Real
give Toronto clestyn and they win the league no cap
If we are being real
Agree
Maybe kdg potential fraud however
If he is mismanaging moose
give toronto clestyn, give although a visa
Also it is very funny that finale
Toronto should have signed shadowburn
Need a better DPS line
Toronto's problem imo is their DPS
Heesu has been good
Wheir has finale
toronto are only championship level on mt ms and fs
Developed
Like unironicaly
His ego
And I think although with time will be fine
and twilight is not championship level on like
Mf got a potm and requested a trade
a 3rd place team
LMAO
Shut up
You literally said
1987=< twilight
Very odd take
he cannot carry a team to a title when their roster is 3rd or 4th
1987 has been good tho
Disagree
I second this
Farway deserves credibility, but high B is about right
No way you put charge into NA and try come out above 7th NA
Why would you say that
Yaki S tier name
His jersey if they don't allow numbers can just be Farway jersey number 87
It’s a good name
Inspired by a milf he is dating
You are showing ur lack of apac knowledge regarding the pac again
Sad
It's the year the Rick Astley song was released
Disagree
Its living rent free in your head though, so its working
I don't immediately recognize a name like fixa
I have him high B off zen, A on zen
But I'll know an Aimgod or a chipsa
I do
Fr he’s ass
but I’m a degenerate of the overwatch league
farway1987 is decent
yes
don’t forget garry
ANS, Striker, Shax, Lengsa, Fleta, FITS, haker, baconjack, viol2t, s9mm
these are names that I can remember pretty easily
since they're kinda unique and on teams I like/interested in
also Striker, Haker, Fleta and S9mm for some reason are names I really like
S9mm shoulda kept samatha
Imo
Samantha was his best name
Uneasy was the worst
And edgiest one
Samatha kinda raw ngl, I like guns though so S9mm is N I C E
These names are like
Bad
Lmao
Shax is a pretty good one
Everyone remembers shax
Even if he’s been kind of forgettable for a while
He just named shock players
That why he remembers
So long as your battlenet account is connected to youtube, yes you will get them
Bias aside I think yaki is a sick name
funny
Naming yourself after a middle eastern city is pretty dope though
punk is the best name because an australian picked it
Agree
well they just 3-1'd philly
if Marvel kept his S2 MT peak and his S3 Sigma Peak he would have been a beast
S2 he was very good on the main tanks and his Sigma is nasty
it wasnt throwing in the hog meta
then is shanghai 3rd
yeah but still I don't remember any other time smurf played ball besides GF
Prolly
i want chengdu shanghai now
I favor Shanghai for sure
Against a decent backline I expect jinmu to int off cd
super hog is really fucking nasty
yeah fair lmao
but I do not know about smurfs ball overall
Like he did go Seoul
rewatching 2020 gf cause it was goated
Smurf ball was good
super was the best hog in the world
Lip prolly beats leave on the heroes they mirror but lip has been gapping everyone and Shanghai are still having trouble
he still is imo
Imo fate not good rn
well before his retirement
id probably bet on super but he's not in the pro scene for now 
sadge
Rn
no one has
can't remember if they have
No but they are both rlly good
or will
At hog
For now? He’ll never come back
He’s retired
No
I can cope and hope man
imagine wanting to be a pro ow2 player
so I will cope
i thought id stop cheering for the shock after super retired but turns out i like the team itself a lot more than i thought i did
the korea boys + coluge 
I like the shock for like 3 reasons
great players/coaches, great videos and winning
their yt is good, their players are great they show off their players and coaches very well
shock still has best social media presence in the league
and by that i mean they actually make consistent content
true
good content on yt and their twitter isn't cringe
most of the time
true
gross
sen kinda goated smm
man I miss moth
what team do you cheer for
you do not deserve human rights
i do
you monkey
i am not a gross shock fan
you're worse
exactly
counterpoint
you apes
atlanta fans
you are far worse
shock fans are the worst and atlanta is a close 2nd
🥱
glads fans are worst
both are based
NYXL fans are annoying
Source: Am one
what team do you cheer for
shock fans are all clowns
You have no bitches
🥱
dallas
holy bandwagon alert
Dallas has been mid for 3 seasons straight
this and last season are their only good seasons
you're hard coping tbh
werent you once a paris fan
how?
mald
dilate
- no championships
Nah Atlanta solos
Their fans are extremely annoying
shock clowns are gross
who supports atlanta?...
shcok fans are more annoying
me
At least Shock has achievements
only person that i know supports atlanta is marbel and he's an egirl now
memeicus do you agree that shock fans arent human
I support like half of top NA
He's a shanghai fan he cannot talk shit about us
neither can I
at least our team has champion ships lmao
💀
🤡 SHOCK 🤡 THE 🤡 WORLD 🤡
i just hate north america in all games tbh
Aren't you a Paris fan?
i am not a paris fan
ian is the paris simp
only ian is
true
Imo
Paris and naga may have encountered
Internal issues
Wub is sadly
Not an upgrade
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Ap...
I wanna see super drunk lmao
And jmac is smart of to know
Gesture is still in the league
disagree
Shock Scrimmed: Element Mystic, Philly, Talon, Runaway, one time against Shanghai
In korea
and rolled vs Zen mirror but vs ana it was more even, and philly played monkey/dva and shock would always roll

didn’t ask
i remember hearing that talon smacked scrims around this time
who asked
cope
also glads got smoked cause shock is simply better
as long as you ignore the two maps where they were not
yessir
multiple
... wtf
Shanghai badwangoner
i like a lot of players so i naturally like a lot of teams by merit
call me Stalin the way I avoid talking about the past that does not help my case
i like a lot of runaway players and some other players so teams like shanghai and florida are natural choices
liked void when he was on glads and continue to players that glads sign so id say i like them as well
i like proper and pelican so i enjoy houston and shock sometimes
Cringe
idk
you just like good players
Teams
what is the point of following players that suck
oge had fans the whole time he was in the league
they will be in the league for a season at most and will be forgotten swiftly after
Cry when they over perform
much better than following losers like proper
its not like i bandwagoned all of them as soon as they joined league, lots of the players i like were players i was watching when they were in contenders
cope + bandwagon barry + ratio
cope + bandwagon barry + ratio
i really strongly did not want proper to join shock
talon was the best Korean team they scrimmed and won against shanghai in scrim
bc that would be as boring as it is rn
yeah unfortunate that proper has to play on a shit team
top NA lmao
boosted by Finn
wrong
"top NA" wake me up when they fight real competition zzz
glads zzz
FiNN is the only good shock player
sadiators 
top of NA :cry
top of APAC 
so by that definition the only real competition for shock is dallas
its a purposeful typo dont even try to
therefore, dallas has also not faced any real competition either
top of apac is inconsistent as fuck
???
any askers?
top of APAC has been shanghai since day 1. you are just simply too uninformed to understand that
Dallas and Shock no competition zzzzz
imagine not being able to decipher APAC games
rolled by Philly
???
3-0verwatch
how many times do i have to explain to you ape brains
Dallas lost to Houston
shanghai will probably shit themselves this stage no doubt but once they can get actual practice time they will be a force
Must mean they aren’t top
average shanghai game
always lose week 1 debuff + philly never lose opening match buff
????
not cope
shock should run orisa today
say that all you want but history does not lie
or ball
It happens every year
oh please
shanghai has never not been swept in an opening week across their whole existence as a franchise
would be great
super coluge would be a sick fucking tankline
apac is also infinitely more interesting bc their is not much if any sos bias stage per stage
??
what strength of schedule bias is there
when u play every other team in the region
every stage
need to see dallas v shock and shock v atlanta
shock will poo on atlanta
fr
venom gaming
wanna see nero/venom throwing ngl
why are you making that cat smoke
ojee and venom are hot
I invented esports
shock outclasses atlanta at every single role
false
Main support
he's on vancouver
atlanta have a real lucio player
viol2t better brig
no
Brig in my NA games?
yes
true hottest ms rn
viol2t brig is fine not elite
yes shock does run brig
What are the preds for tonight?
shock 3-0 titiyititabtanananfbans
Is anyone picking ny over defiant?
no
Me
Course
andbox andy 
gator hawk also better than coluge
Pretty easily high A imo
shock only have advantage in DPS
thats cap
I genuinely believe it this time
?????
It’s true
Only if toronto drop the spaghetti
bro coluge primals like my 60 year old grandma
you think fucking blake gator nft entrepreneur scott has a better monkey than coluge
neither of them are good
Grandma better
if coluge has 60 year old grandma primals gator has 80 year old dementia patient primals
Yes
Coluge > gator hawk when they fucked super choi last year
That’s just the shock cope
they dont
the only big difference is proper > nero
so much cope
Kai also better than kilo
thats the only advantage shock have
shanghai almost lost to fucking valiant lmao
hmm yes because nothing about the game has changed from last season
thats also the only advantage shock had against glads lol
and coaching

??
can't find it
glads do not are able to win
shock would 3-1 reign at worst
reign suck
gator monkey and coluge monkey are both bad mechanically
but coluge synergy is way better wit proper
than gators is with venom
i think shock win against reign yes because they look more functioning as a team and like they've got their shit together, but the players themselves is not a big difference
one thing is for sure and it’s that gator hawk are both good
Coluge is literally only better at like sig
haha you think shock will play zarya?
3-0verwatch
LAG it is time to end your 2-3 streak
Defiant, you better not let me down and lose a map to nyxl
Shock has shown clearly they won't struggle vs titans
uninformed
wow Coluge wins 2/9 tanks
gator is trash outside of orisa and rein
Must be better than gator hawk
he os
is*
also better coaching
better flex support(s)
better dps
There is 3 tanks that realistically get played in this meta
Coluge clears on all 3
gator is bad on all 3
Winston somehow
Winston doom reign are better
it is true IMO
solo tanking is better for the future of a team
like easily lmfao
man both of them are ass who cares
gator monkey looked worse tho
shock have the better fs and fdps which are both pretty much the most impactful roles
in the game rn lmao
Gators is worse for sure
Agree
The truth
shut your mouth
They lost vs justice
agree
L
The biggest team
but
They are doing the sentinels 😻
Shock will get worse the longer the season
???
imo
HARD COPING
Source? I made it up
Espec
LMAO
no way you actually think that
Become meta
You don’t make a source on this stuff
god i am praying for a double fs meta
source: time machine
im casting fucking spells and rituals to get a double fs meta
OT double FS
yooo custa
And proper on tracer
reinforce remote again
No I mean other teams stop shitting everywhere
oof
So they will be better than shock
In that meta
Sigma tracer soldier ana zen
holy fuck
shock 3-0s everyone
could 5v5 really make ana/zen viable
hell ana brig also works
since viol2t has a nasty brig
Of Ana
yeah bap/zen works ofc
that i can see
bap/ana could also be so sick
as long as the meta doesnt become hard rush
viol2t has a good bap and finn good ana, though ana zen would be their best
well im now a believer in the coluge rein
consistently losers
Nyxl will win
pls no
I have invested my soul into this match
I just panic shifted my pickem
From 3-0 Defiant to 3-2 Defiant
I feel ashamed in myself
I've gone 3-1 Defiant
other 2 matches I have as 3-0 to Glads and Shock
wouldn't be surprised if London nick a map though because it's Glads
youe soul is now gone
sorry to tell you
hahahah
no other team has been reversed swept twice in a row
sadiators
how about another lol
not gonna happen
not london
if houston can style on spitfire, then glads should have no problem
yeah
Remember 2019
doubtful
Hotba just fucking sux
I miss runaway titans




