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spark dogshit mickey mouse team merry-go-round coaching staff always less than the sum of their parts 
field fucking Guxue
There gonna fire there coaching staff when they get 3-0 by charge
so they cant accidentally field him
i want him off the team
so no misclick can bring him in
and drop Architect for good measure
also Zest MN3 best dps line rn IMO
you will NOT drop architect
so more money can be used for Sado
dont even say that.
dont will it into existance
before philly gets 3-2'd by shock
Ngl
Sado is good???
I'm surprised that sparks still has money
this so ng is 
isnt spark billibilli
billibilli is a multibillion dollar org
LMAO
or another massive chinese company
they have literally infinite money
Sado as an individual was good last season, even with a bottom tier support line
spark is on the same level as philly
Superich Irony >> ASJ Lastro
oh fs
The current state of suck is extreme
AnSoonJae
oh
or is that mano
whomegalul
What the hell billibilli is worth 9 billion ☠️☠️
Sado LiGe
last time Sado tweeted was in 2019
not including sponsors
I though they were worth like 1 billion
i dont agree
then ur wrong
No Guxue
no lmao
then zest mn3
no goosh?
nahhhh
PLEASE
I think shock has a better dps line
i wouldnt discount lip/fleta and the moon marijuana just yet
mn3 zest is not the best dpsline
fr
FUCK YEAH
proper exists
so does mn3...
Proper alone
mn3 is not > proper
Proper fucks
mn3 can be j as good...
copium
especially on tracer
copium
Proper also very flexible
bro i j watched contenders...
theres a reason why proper was more hyped than mn3
I watched t1 fuck up o2 blast
very cope spark fan
multiple times
sadly o2blast won
they play different roles
cause t1 didnt have internet...
yeah mn3 is hitscan boy
MN3 is the better hard hitscan
proper is hyperflex
they had to forfeit in playoffs
proper is better than mn3 on literally all characters except for MAYBE 3
and even those 3 its very close
they beat o2 3-1, but then had to forfeit so o2 got a bye
t1 should have won contenders
MN3 is the better ashe widow cass hanzo sombra and equal on 76
copium from philly fans that mn3 zest are best dps line
but they had internet issues and covid problems
Valiant
wouldn't give mn3 hanzo or sombra
i don't see Shock beating Charge
i dont see mn3 sweeping chadi
I could see shock beating charge
I think apac is much better then NA on average
wrong once again
Lol?
holy apac simp
Shock did get exposed but not exposed that bad
develop diff
wait till next patch when its a double flex support meta
wait until Coluge faces a good main tank like Belosrea
develop is still like top hitscan in the world
Gotta love even without dpei there gladiators finds the most magical ways to lose
ppl forgot cause he was on shanghai bench
Lmao
he's not even a top hitscan in his region
Lol
wrong
dont blame him, mn3 fits and lip are all better
actually not glads
hes better than fits
Develop was very hyped up but hasn't proving himself imo
Develop is in the same region as Lip Fits Shy MN3 Pineapple Leave Carpe and Diya
and goes even with lip on hard hitscan
Valiant boomed?
fits is prob one of the best hard hs in the world
Valiant boomed.
no leave?
Fits is better then develop imo
OK FUCK YEAH WE WON
spark
Seal the deal
And be ashamed that you even let valiant get this far
valiant top 4
very based
proper hasnt faced a full KR roster yet
okay mr. "shock wont beat the team that has rio for a tank"
at least shock will make a tournament
who dont count
lucio-ohs
and crong tho
not make the tournament
Youngjin >>>> that "Crusty" kid
Ok I know spark colors are legit just the trans flag, but has spark ever made this acknowledged or is youtube chat just using it instead of pink and cyan hearts
its a chinese org, dont think they acknowledged
i mean with how many rookies are in the league this year proper has already played against a lot of the scariest mfers in the league in contenders
so they cant acknowledge it
yeah and he sometimes lost
Oh yeah right forget about that one sometimes
Urgh just give me the 5 tokens, Blizzard
Lol
they're not the same shade of colour
VALIANT
unrelated
DRAW THIS OUT
he also mostly won
I have like 1k tokens cause I just started playing on pc
t1 and talon made it real close
OHHHHHH YEAAH
SPARK STONKS in a weird position rn
Fucking get it together, Valiant
alphayi so relieved
ok im happy now
it's all part of the nohill master plan
yes
unlucky unlucky
NOHILLSZN
im relieved
nohill always the best
How did spark go to map 5 against that team
now i need to sleep
frauds
fielded Guxue twice
cause ive been up all night
fraudzhou spark
Spark just diffed LA on the last map on every hero
not surprising
valiant is top 4 team in the APAC region
You can pinpoint the exact moment the wave of relief crashes over Alphayi
Spark loses maps to Boston when Guxue is fielded
Spark would be so good if Bernar played instead of Guxue on every map
nohill are making valiant lose 2-3 so teams underestimate them and then he sweeps the last series to get valiant qualified
6000 IQ
saving strats for playoffs
valiant
NOHILLSZN
VALiant top 4????
LAV actually going to make kickoff clash finals
yes
its quite obvious
eh maybe seoul instead of val
did they stop showing the cams of the losing team?
Valiant are 0-3
they're not 0-3
yes they are
he is purposely making his team play 5 maps for more practice
no they're not
Charge Seoul Spark
its quite simple
624 days since Valiant's last match win btw
they're 5-9
for real?
ye
September 6th 2020 vs Mayhem
they only need to win 4 maps to break even
they can throw the next game and still be positive in map record
match record more important than map record
wow there was only 16 matches last season?
they can get lower seed for playoffs
yeah it sucked
was it delayed or something
valiant were terrible last season
bold take
covid moment
they werent terrible they were just not good
Current scoreboard, by the way:
not updated
5-0 thats what we like to see baby
never underestimate Seoul inconsistency
by having jinmu instead of apr1ta
profit time machine to 2018 baby
Fucking
why is it a shock that profit played well on his best hero
GIVE ME THE FIVE TOKENS, BLIZZARD
the man has been minimum A tier since 2017
Yeah
But also
Why are these fools forcing echo mercy
you want them to play shitji instead?
I’m confident that literally any average monkey and tracer
imo
I am in Asia and I hate this Chinese song they play during East broadcasts
??????
of course
my man hard farmed
also
vindaim lucio
🥵 🥵
Just don’t leave mmonk to go 2v1 against profit and Smurf
Really not a hard concept
To grasp imo
mmonk can win easily
you think hunters grasp concepts?
Hunters exist beyond logic and reality
their whole plan was let mmonk frag on his own and just focus on killing the enemy team first

so apac is also a cycle of shit
Has been fun watching OWL
just like NA
RUI Apr1ta would've made all the difference for Hunters
Well it is a new game
I’m not watching the whole series
MN3 did appropriate pounding
There trying to figure it out still
we demand an apology to all the fans who called this signing "mid." ENJOY ZEST SEASON!!!!!!!
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i mean yeah Unique should've beated earlier
but ZEST clutch factor
unreal
and on that same map MN3 swapped to cass in the last 30 seconds and got a 4k while nano'd
expected from the goat
dw Carpe comes in for the double hs dva ana mercy meta in summer showdown
???
nah your mother gives me all the attention i need
sounds annoying
i know right?
yea it is
morbious
gaul soodman
molly wants to join the costream but elsa keeps saying that active players can't join :(
molly: what if i retire now?
molly: then can i join?
molly: um, the way it's going now
molly: i really don't want to play
molly: haha
molly: let me into vc elsa babe
he may as well dip honestly
imagine getting signed and then getting benched for some random player few days before season start
that's bullshit i saw Avast costreaming with Super Elk and Biggoose when they were active
i hate society
idk different rules
could also just be elsa wanting certain things
Elsa agenda against Molly?
different rules
i remember they said that in plat chat
active players cannot costream
dang Sideshow couldn't costream during his 14 day contract with Mayhem then?
idk
but i mean the new rules for costreaming that was established this season
since its different from last seasons ive heard, just dunno how it is different
like how mr wilkinson could only costream for one day
ought to be different on bilibili though
Guys I just read a report on Twitter and it says "The Boston Uprising are expected to be releasing Striker and Marve1"
what abt it?
It's crazy
not rly
Why the fuck are the Uprising possibly getting rid of those two?
they werent planning on playing them
slimming down roster size is the key to sucess
Trye
Mave1 I get
Marve1 is understandable
Striker????????
Tracer player???
striker boomed imo
^
No matter how good boston look they are always doomed to fail
yeah striker seems good, but not elite anymore
maybe they decided that he reached his ceiling and victoria valentine has a higher ceiling
striker is like
the epitome of a diva
man smashed computer peripherals when he was on boston in 2018
to the point that whole scrim blocks had to be canceled sometimes
Unsure why Shock fans
Stan striker lol
Do they really think he left that team on good terms
2018 was also when striker hard carried boston
I thought there was some fucky shit with how he left so I'm surprised he went back
the team clearly had issues. we dont know what, but it's undeniable
moth not re-signing in 2021, could've been explainable but alongside ans "retiring", weird DPS rotations, fdgod not getting playtime, striker "retiring"
choi retires, smurf dips, super retires early into 2022
shock actually just blew up
super consistently said when asked always something similar to, "yeah shit was happening lmao"
but like the consummate professional he is never elaborated 
And super retiring was way more an ow2 thing than team atmosphere thing
we dont know that
And just general burnout
we're never going to know
It's a fair assumption to make
super clearly implied there was bad blood
multiple times
unlucky
wonder if striker is gonna join another team
It’s not like only one person has said striker’s personality is bad
Nearly everyone that gets asked what he was like dodges the question or implies it if not just straight up saying how he acts
No it was definitely personality based
Maybe Striker just hit his peak 
According to multiple sources, the Boston Uprising are expected to release both DPS player Nam-Joo “Striker” Kwon & Tank Min-Seo “Marvel” Hwang
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Why must the one Australian player be on boston
Cuz punk goated
fr
at least his echo and mei still suck BALLS
That's quite based from profit tbh
very consistent player
i approve
aie no cap
boston should sign apr1ta and sail him to US
im liking vindaim mercy
who
I had to rush and sell my spark stocks after a near blunder
What blunder
betayi wishes
Them almost losing to valiant
Oh
i mean valiant almost beat seoul so respectable if they did lose
valiant top team
agree
Proper is much better than alphayi yes
Becky took AlphaYi further than Profit ever will
He kinda gapped him
Lol
“Profit is bad”
who gapped who
becky gapped alphayi?
mmm idk about that chief
Diya best player in the lobby idk
Ok so basically
Philly good
Shanghai maybe good
Spark maybe good
Seoul maybe good
Chengdu maybe good
Guangzhou not good
Valiant not good
NA
shanghai owns
Top 3 good
NA
Middle tier maybe good
Nah
Valiant goated
NOHILLSZN
Also Zest and MN3 make me feel things
Gotta be one of the more fun dps duos to watch rn
Bro there are like three new pelicans in the league this year
Proper, zest, and alphayi
Proper Zest Alphayi (Speedily)
Oh yeah speedily
What does this even mean
Good rookie fdps?
Yeah
Rookie flex dps players that come out and immediately clap cheeks
Flex dps players that are fun to watch
which is not something pelican did
because atlanta were shit
Finale doing his best on tracer just to get benched by although reaper
I get he hasn’t played with the team and that MuZe might be unhappy but like maaannnnnnn
He carried after first map
Nah he was their best or 2nd best wit twilight on dorado and that shit push map
Hmm
Idk about that one personally
He might have been making the “right” plays on reaper but the plays were not coordinated with his team well
The amount of times he’d die with a cooldown or when he could’ve been bubbled easily was far too high
That’s my issue with Toronto rn, they know what comps they want to play and they know what’s meta so that’s good, it just seems when they play against the leaders of the league they can’t match the coordination or the micro plays that those teams do
isnt that just toronto every season
No
Season 3 they were just shit
Season 4 they were middling shit
Season 2 was more of the same too
This season they actually have a competitive roster, especially in this meta, they just don’t have the elite coordination yet
we demand an apology to all the fans who called this signing "mid." ENJOY ZEST SEASON!!!!!!!
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https://twitter.com/fusion/status/1528333495591833600?s=21&t=OD3GQHmMeChFAjAKaTwduw somewhere @hot onyx is crying
It burns!
I'll enjoy it for what it is for Fusion, good coaching, players shouldn't be labeled by their BL contenders seasons
This is a long season homie 
Uk how many stage 1 wonder teams there were last year
Philadelphia being one of them
Washington
Houston
Florida
Toronto
Seoul 
Usual suspects this year minus seoul
How did the league descide the teams for each division
it makes no sense ab how philly is on the east conf but paris and london arent
WHAT
Why is valiant east but titans are west
It doesnt make sense
Why is there 13 teams in west but 7 in east
lol
Make it make sense
Blizzard sucks at geography
The east was seoul all 4 chineese teams
Paris london boston new york toronto? shared a division
yea so then add europe and asia in east and keep all the na teams in west
Philly houston florida atlanta shared a division
To sum it down after the world stopped moving
Philly had a asian contenders team so they opted to play in asia
New york did the same considering they are full korean
Paris london are eu teams makes no sense to have them play asia
The region balanced has always been wonked from the inaguaration
Considering almost all the owl players are korean but theres only 1 korean team
And also china gets 4 teams even tho korean contenders is much bigger
And there only being two eu teams despite at the time eu being much bigger then na
The imbalance was bound to happen and here we are paris london have to play NA for latency and other reasons and someone had to play asia and it ended up being philly who has a major footprint in asian contenders through former Fusion academy now known as t1
if the orgs want to play in asia, they are in the asian division. if the orgs want to play in america, they are in the american division.
That sounds stupid asf
why?
Thats not rlly east west then is it
fuck you mean
of everyone decided to play in na except 2 teams, the org is gonna be ok with that too ?
if everyone decided to play in NA except 2 teams then that would mean covid didnt exist
Covid doesnt exist anymore
please leave this channel
no u
and never speak here ever again
see this is why owl brackets are dumb as shit compared to actual sports leagues
how does this make any sense
U have been tainting it
u cant give a reason urself
no point of saying east/west then is it
if they dont even play in the regions theyre located
the amount of cringe exuding from you is immeasurable
ian and uvalo are shitheads but this is just sad
get a grip on reality dude
HOLY FUCK WHAT THW FUCK @tropic herald ARE YOU WATCHING THE VCT EMEA GAME
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxH75y9AeH7uxRUDA3RNlWVVePHdr6348l @tropic herald @cunning patrol
55 seconds · Clipped by Treeko · Original video "FOKUS vs ACEND - Challengers EMEA - Stage 2 Week 2 Day 3" by VALORANT Champions Tour
WOW
How
No actually deserved, didn’t think I’d ever see him rack up kills while not overextending
Hey come on, on paper a bottom 5 main tank main support flex support shouldn’t have been able to 3-0 Dragons
Sungmin working magic though
Agree
i wish you fusion fans would shut the fuck up
Don’t be putting me in that group of “people”
this is the first time ive gotten the chance to talk to u im p sure
ur pretty well know
as far as i know at least 2 people have u blocked because of your shit takes
They can start hot
But they will choke
And the memes will be back
name 1 take of mine which is not meant as a joke
According to multiple sources, the Boston Uprising are expected to release both DPS player Nam-Joo “Striker” Kwon & Tank Min-Seo “Marvel” Hwang
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What the fuck
Not by Boston
@feral wing mn3 or carpe
Apac fans delufing themselves
Maybe Titans
Into thinking
Who is #superior
I have been gone all day. How did chengdu choke so hard? Ik Seoul is good but damn 3-0
Mn3000 is
If Proper isn’t ROTY it’s either MN3 ZEST or Reiner
Reiner will be bemched cause OT meta
deserves more
Imo
IMO MNFraud needs to win a widow duel once in his lifetime before he can win roty 🔥
If zest wins rookie of the year I’m cutting off my nipples
i forgor
UV doesn’t win over FiNN
sadly there isn't a ''good fs who was instantly forgotten because a way better rookie fs also joined the league in the same year'' award
marbel do u fart
FiNN didn’t lose to the Justice
Shu
Sadly
Shu was best rookie fs
S2
He wasn’t top 2
Twilight Viol2t didn’t exist ig
Pros are dumb
Especially the ones u talk to
''he's top 2 even tho he never proved it because his team held him back''
shut the fuck up pls
Shut up
Remember Fearless?
shut up
Shu was top 2 in S2 and s3
viol2t was generational
fearless improved in contendies
Shu was not
He didn't
He was always good
In s2
He was
2nd s4
Imo
Agree
Pros agree
and 1st s5
Viol2t was a mechanic bot carried by the best team in the league
wow shu kind of funny
Give shuseph
Top tier analysts agree
alarm
Choi instead of hotba
Alarm
Super instead of rio
How many OWL tokens do you get per hour for watching?
So
That one guy on zarya
Still Alarm
Instead of happy
Did seoul use smurf on monkey finally
And moth instead of chara
so u admit happy sux @twin bloom
Or did chengdu suck
Sometimes
@twin bloom
Shu looks better
Mans not even in the same mortal realm and he still diffs your favourite fs
please stop
who? 😱
S*inatraaa
Babybay
that makes no sense
I think if Hooreg was good he would be a generational talent
imo
All he needed was better coaching a better team better mechanical skill and better gamesense
Compared to babybay
I think
Under the right team environment
Adora would’ve been the greatest talent
In OWL history
My YouTube won’t let me link my battle.net :(((
Mine either :(
"Brand account" like wtf
エピック
Yeah same here
Why the hell can’t I just watch on the OWL app for rewards
Luckily I have 3 google accounts and 4 channels apprarently. Switching accounts works for me
just means my main(only) youtube account isn't able to be linked with blizzard ¯\(ツ)/¯
on the bright side, can't participate in yt chat
Who is this super guy they talk about /s
whole hog? Wtf is that
zest didn't look all that impressive to me imo
They were just playing against a much worse team than them
mn3 even only came alive for a bit on cassidy today (from what I saw)
mn3 had a better showing in the previous match
profit was nasty on route 66
i have Justice/Fuel/Reign 3-1 but i can also see it be a 3-0 day ngl
Reign will 3-2 titans
Will be a dogfight
Because reign are goated
And so are titans
👍
They improved
Weeks 1 and 2
Jitters
Sadly
they probably wont even win a match
Hot takes, like claiming spitfire would beat outlaws
like wtf
ok that is a hot take
in the rein meta spitfire beat outlaws
titans are fucked their schedule is hard
Hot take: Seoul chokes
Don't they always tho
but no way charge beats seoul
caster curse
fusion had a great first showing, could well happen
real
i take choi on everythin cept hanzo and pharah
well
I take the profit brig
kekw
Happy/Decay is a deadly dps line, though ngl I prefer ttuba over assassin
disagree
pretty bad to have those stats as widow, yet your team is in last (Well, paris...)
Aspire widow stats seem impressive until you realize like 2 people
Have played widow
Lmao
happy worse than aspire kekw
Happy aspire victoria and ans
Hydron and shockwave
As well
Lol
Sparkr for a bit
Goal for paris today: Win 1 map vs dallas
This would tie them for 12th
trust in hawk
I'm never wrong
until I am
but we don't speak of those times
except for when we do speak of those times
come on boston
Pull out the orisa on push
You know you want to
watermelon
ratlanta lose
atlanta sweep bois
Not because they are bad
Because titans
Are gods
Who have underperformed
no hawk
GATOR VEMON
The nem
LESGOOOO
YOO MY 3-1 PRED MIGHT BE REALITY

VENOMMMM
time for rush
titans cams choppy
imagine
eminem: VNM!!!!!
all of apac
has played wid
Ok
idiot...
dude canoeing
ong
so good
was also out in the woods so I couldn’t experience the emotional turmoil of a chengdu 0-3
that was a good sleep.
Who would’ve guessed
WAOW HAVE A OT PLAY A OT
That an off tank player
THEY WOULD BE GOOD
Morthetfucker
how is venom doing
Gator ist a monkey player tho
doom is more reactionary then otherwise
reign should play orisa
shows
so yeah doom isn't that good
sephy trolls for the fans
shitwave strikes again
Ojee/Ultraviolet so good
N i c e
I think he's cute, hm compared to the other tracers how is he doing
Are they
gg go next
Struggling?
False is the worst winston in the league
intw
But a good off tank
fr
So hard
just put him on zarya
We legit just seen one match of venom and he third best
They aint beating ATL
Because Flubby saw that he was doing well and advised him to stop






