flora doing far more than that shitter kellan
#esports-discussion
cunning patrol
shut bobcat
Is there another game
wintry kraken
Is there another game
yes
mortal cipher
One more
hot onyx
Looking bad on his one trick
Try looking good with a bottom 3 support line after coming out of contenders with goats like CH0R0NG Vigilante
cerulean ingot
cunning patrol
Try looking good with a bottom 3 support line after coming out of contenders wit...
he literally looks lost
lol
twin bloom
Try looking good with a bottom 3 support line after coming out of contenders wit...
You know which team also has a bottm 3 supp line
Justice
cunning patrol
him and yaki not in sync whatsoever
mortal cipher
Yeah
cunning patrol
flora owns happy imo
cunning patrol
you are bias
twin bloom
Yaki is the only good playah
cunning patrol
happy is better on
twin bloom
On nyxl
cunning patrol
zo wid
twin bloom
It is so sad
cunning patrol
and mayb cree
cunning patrol
Tracer doesn't matter
she does
mortal cipher
She’s still a major factor you need a tracer player
twin bloom
She’s still a major factor you need a tracer player
Obviously
gritty compass
Hey
mortal cipher
If Dallas lose I swear
hot onyx
My bold 3-0 is in the water
mortal cipher
Edison gonna get diffed to hessu
dreamy cave
Will I see someone play a character I haven't seen yet
north relic
Oh dear god
although gaming
hot onyx
although gaming
OH MY
vagrant jacinth
Although!
hot onyx
DEFIANT CAN BE GOOD
mortal cipher
Although time
hot onyx
FINALLY
vagrant jacinth
Defiant instawin
hot onyx
God I miss when I could be bold
mortal cipher
Cycle of misery is over maybe
hot onyx
Whoever had the idea of benching Mr Sp9rk1e needs to be benched on the street to starve
mortal cipher
Lol
north relic
first of all
vagrant jacinth
Rip fielder
north relic
WHY IS IT DOHA SOLDIER EDISON REAPER
mortal cipher
Fielder rip
north relic
SWAP THE HEROES
vagrant jacinth
Lmao wtf
north relic
actually though
mortal cipher
Edison hasn’t died yet ok
fast tusk
white and blue vs black and red i just realize
mortal cipher
Noice
hot onyx
Huh
hot onyx
Maybe Although needs an integration phase
digital atlas
we gon win 🗿🗿🗿
mortal cipher
Yeah
hot onyx
There’s only so much reaper Midison can force
mortal cipher
Tru Lmbao
balmy wolf
god tier casting
dreamy cave
They were hooking a bit
digital atlas
Doha is so bad
he diffed meezu hard bruh 🗿🗿🗿
mortal cipher
Muze blanket
vagrant jacinth
Doesn't matter map win
hot onyx
Doha is so bad
Ikr, can’t believe he started over the goat Guriyo
digital atlas
or whatever his fuckin name is
hot onyx
Although integration period
If he had his rightful access to NA from the start they’d be winning
mortal cipher
It’s just one map anyway
lost thicket
so Doomfist is countered by tracer
digital atlas
Doha is so bad
50 mgs of copium
lost thicket
who counters zarya/reaper
mortal cipher
yeah
mortal cipher
But is he better than sparkle
digital atlas
Toronto gonna have to do a Mayham and go mei sym
mortal cipher
Maybe
lost thicket
Sparkle is high A
digital atlas
i love comms check
lost thicket
Doha is Mid A
mortal cipher
Comms check is great
cunning patrol
Doha is Mid A
get help
hot onyx
although is nowhere near the problem
Not as an individual, but the integration as a whole affecting the team after being used to Finale for 2 weeks
cunning patrol
bad
cunning patrol
Not as an individual, but the integration as a whole affecting the team after be...
that map is hard against dallas comp
mid b tier is like
cunning patrol
nero or something
violet turret
Everybody shut the fuckers up
lost thicket
Nero and Doha def A
hot onyx
Yeah and Doha sombra is S
lost thicket
not like role stars
cunning patrol
i do not care
hot onyx
reaper echo A
lost thicket
but def good
cunning patrol
fuck no
cunning patrol
u just admitted hes a 2 trick
hot onyx
3 trick
hot onyx
Profit is a 3 trick
violet turret
Dohass best hero is reaper
vagrant jacinth
Hogba time
cunning patrol
Profit is a 3 trick
eh
vagrant jacinth
Game over
cunning patrol
tracer hanzo pharah?
hot onyx
Yet people still rate him high af
violet turret
Profit is a 10 trick
hot onyx
tracer hanzo pharah?
Yes
hot onyx
His hs is worst in apac
cunning patrol
for fdps
it is not imio
u comapre him to other flex playas
he is better than all except
violet turret
Colonel Sans likes ZEST shut up!!!!!
hot onyx
Compared to Lip Leave MN3 Shy Carpe Fits Diya Develop Pineapple
balmy wolf
dude can edison play literally anything but fucking reaper already
cunning patrol
leave proper fleta pelican kevster choisehwan yaki sp9
violet turret
Edison is the best reaper calm down
cunning patrol
he is only worse than them
cunning patrol
dude can edison play literally anything but fucking reaper already
why would he swap
if toronto do not know what do do against it
lol
hot onyx
he is only worse than them
On his signature heroes
mortal cipher
dude can edison play literally anything but fucking reaper already
It would appear not since that the only character he did t get diffed on
balmy wolf
cuz reaper is a boring zzz hero
cunning patrol
On his signature heroes
overall
violet turret
Who cares
hot onyx
His echo is bottom 3 apac
cunning patrol
as a fdps hero
digital atlas
HANBIN carry
hot onyx
And his mei is abysmal
cunning patrol
so is
every fdps mei
imo
like doha vs profit i take profit on like everything except mei sombra echo
hot onyx
ZEST had to play mei multiple times in Contenders due to Belosrea forcing rush
And was nutty
violet turret
Edison is really the goat reaper 🤦♂️🤦♂️
hot onyx
Fleta mei good
violet turret
Wrong
hot onyx
Leave plays everything
violet turret
This sans guy must have no brain
hot onyx
Leave played mei in 2020
lost thicket
MIDba playing
hot onyx
Redemption arc
hot onyx
so is chois
All better than Prodit mei imho imho
wintry kraken
fuel doing a speedrun of king's row
lost thicket
5:30
hot onyx
cunning patrol
photoshopped
hot onyx
Glad we come to an adult agreement
mortal cipher
Rascal Mei
digital atlas
Edison and hanbin fr a great combo
worn falcon
Rascal Mei > All the Meis
balmy wolf
cant they go widow or smth against fuel
hot onyx
It’s almost like people don’t watch Profit mei but claim he’s good based off his tracer play
violet turret
Wrong
wintry kraken
helicopter reaper
mortal cipher
Tru
balmy wolf
yo heesu kinda cracked on the tracking
cunning patrol
my personal mei PR
mortal cipher
Peli mei is good
hot onyx
Rascal Mei > All the Meis
Put a tier break with season 3 Ivy mei after Rascal then the rest
cunning patrol
oh and fleta
mortal cipher
Tru
balmy wolf
seicoe best mei
mortal cipher
But fleta is good at everything
balmy wolf
or was it backbone idk
violet turret
Fleta gets carried at everything
mortal cipher
Backbone killed proper with mei
hot onyx
The world would be a better place if Seicoe played mei and got the fuck off genji
digital atlas
poor Toronto
hot onyx
Ok I’m gonna sleep so that the rest of the match isn’t spoiled for me to rewatch with my nan
digital atlas
ok
mortal cipher
Sounds good see ya
twin bloom
only fdps good at mei
S9mm is a mei one play
hot onyx
I will have so much fun while unconscious
cunning patrol
hes an echo otp
mortal cipher
His echo was good
hot onyx
lol hotba getting gapped
Name one player that doesn’t get gapped by Hanbin zarya
balmy wolf
man I never understood the fuel
balmy wolf
I feel like they have no good players yet they always win
cunning patrol
i could match him
next mesa
lol hotba getting gapped
i was just about to type tht
violet turret
Name one player that doesn’t get gapped by Hanbin zarya
Seominsoo
twin bloom
Name one player that doesn’t get gapped by Hanbin zarya
Mirror. Just imagine how good titans will be in this meta!!!
next mesa
hanbin differential
cunning patrol
Mirror. Just imagine how good titans will be in this meta!!!
cope
violet turret
Edison literally baptizes every reaper wtf
hot onyx
Mirror. Just imagine how good titans will be in this meta!!!
Don’t worry they’ll take a map off Reign tomorrow
Then we celebrated
next mesa
his reaper is kinda POPPING rn
mortal cipher
Name one player that doesn’t get gapped by Hanbin zarya
False best tank
cunning patrol
Edison literally baptizes every reaper wtf
lip owns him
violet turret
Edison js the goat
mortal cipher
Don’t worry they’ll take a map off Reign tomorrow
Doubtful
hot onyx
It will be a map 5
Believable, both have horrible coaching
twin bloom
Imho
mortal cipher
Lol
twin bloom
Believable, both have horrible coaching
Disagree
mortal cipher
Titans coaching is the worst
digital atlas
doha low key carrying
mortal cipher
Yeah
cunning patrol
yeah hes carrying toronto
digital atlas
i didn't expect them to get point
cunning patrol
he just woke up the nano reaper
digital atlas
rip
rare magnet
yeah this is goats
violet turret
Seominsoo would garbage all of these wannabe zarya players
digital atlas
ouch
cunning patrol
fucking chiyo
cunning patrol
u hate on honest kr players
twin bloom
Void
cunning patrol
like
twin bloom
All my goats
lost thicket
Seicoe > Naist potential wise imo
cunning patrol
no
lost thicket
Disagree
vagrant jacinth
earnest leaf
maybe I shouldn't have given toronto a map in my preds
cunning patrol
very sad cuz i had them #4
twin bloom
But people like jackecro
vagrant jacinth
Lol
cunning patrol
ok i had them
twin bloom
And you
vagrant jacinth
Not goos
cunning patrol
i had them 5th its a reasonable take
twin bloom
Overrated them
cunning patrol
they beat those shitters
twin bloom
Tank and supp
cunning patrol
so
cunning patrol
irreleveant point
earnest leaf
outlaws could probably beat defiant if they stop one tricking doom
twin bloom
When everyone relevant person
Said they were ass in scrims
The moment the alpha ended
dreamy cave
I need toronto win two maps with the skill like they want to be good
twilit oriole
They are playing Dallas
cunning patrol
outlaws could probably beat defiant if they stop one tricking doom
they would lose harder
lmaooo
piggy sucks
twin bloom
Piggy is a good zarya
cunning patrol
ok outlaws
twin bloom
Imo
cunning patrol
#6 na
no theyre not
thats a lie
toronto are #6
i had them #5
quite accurate IMO
earnest leaf
defiant will be gatekeepers
cunning patrol
decay is carrying him
dreamy cave
Vanilla is a ice cream flavored IMO
cunning patrol
Agree
twin bloom
Big upgrade
dreamy cave
1+1=2 IMO
twin bloom
Florida is 6th
They are maybe 7th
cunning patrol
Florida are 8th
twin bloom
Behind outlaws
violet turret
They are average
cunning patrol
shut up
cunning patrol
outlaws would sweep them
twin bloom
Defiant
dreamy cave
you spell boy as B O Y IMO
twin bloom
Imo
twin bloom
imo paris 9th
Maybe
cunning patrol
boston 12
twin bloom
They looked good against justice
cunning patrol
and titans sadly little 1
earnest leaf
why is paris still rated above bottom 2
twin bloom
and titans sadly little 1
They won't be
twin bloom
Once they lose
cunning patrol
justice
dreamy cave
1=7 IMO
violet turret
Paris is bettee than london
twin bloom
To reign
violet turret
And boston
cunning patrol
IMO
twin bloom
On a dogfight
violet turret
And titans
dreamy cave
Overwatch is 5v5 IMO
earnest leaf
paris have only won two maps
I cannot in good faith rate them any higher than bottom 2
cunning patrol
tough schedule imo
they will improve
i personally have bias against nyxl
and london
twin bloom
paris have only won two maps
They looked good against justice
Who have stage 1
Happy
The best player in owl
violet turret
LMAO HEESU IS TREMBLING IN HIS BOOTS RN LOOKING AT GURIYO
violet turret
We been knew this 🤦♂️
twin bloom
Wow
tropic herald
saying heesu best na hs
no way anyone said this
mortal cipher
hes a good hs but not the best na hs
violet turret
Heesu is actually asscheeeks
brave zenith
my preds 😿
vagrant jacinth
Edison loves dying to these venom mines
mortal cipher
fr
vagrant jacinth
my preds 😿
Mine are salvaged after that apac disaster
brave zenith
Mine are salvaged after that apac disaster
i got 3 total and that was cus i guessed on the charge match
mortal cipher
mine werent saved due to stupid computer
digital atlas
no junk :(
cunning patrol
no way anyone said this
mortal cipher
i had 3-1 charge
mortal cipher
brave zenith
no wait
mortal cipher
say wot now
brave zenith
i had 3-2 dragons*
twin bloom
At least people can stop saying titans is a top team
Lmaoo
I mean
Defiant
Not titans
Mah bad
mortal cipher
same i mightve had seoul different but other than that
mortal cipher
i had 3-2 dragons, 3-1 charge, 3-2 seoul
basically
brave zenith
what was the score for mayhem vs nyxl
mortal cipher
3-nil
dreamy cave
That lamp was so big dick
mortal cipher
the last match was close
cunning patrol
At least people can stop saying titans is a top team
personally
vagrant jacinth
Bruh
mortal cipher
3-Overwatch day
brave zenith
and now my preds for htis match were awful.
vagrant jacinth
3-0
mortal cipher
i had 3-1
next mesa
this is quite humorous
brave zenith
i had 3-2 fuel
violet turret
LMAOO HANBIN IS THE BEST SIGMA ON EARTH
vagrant jacinth
I had 3-0 fuel
cunning patrol
disagree
dreamy cave
I had it as a map 5
twin bloom
Chiyo
mortal cipher
chiyo
mortal cipher
looking like it
solar trout
just got back
My preds 
Got all the winners right, just wrong point spread
Also, totally forgot my colors are fucked
mortal cipher
wow
mortal cipher
lol
lost thicket
how we feeling on Xzi 2022?
mortal cipher
looks good
earnest leaf
apparently he was on 220 ping that map
mortal cipher
dang
lost thicket
209
also how we feeling on checkmate
preseason a lot of people said he was garbage but he is looking pretty good
willow tartan
garbage on tank
lost thicket
garbage on tank
he was a fucking chad
vagrant jacinth
He was
lost thicket
but I mean as a dps
earnest leaf
anyone rating him super high or low was a fucking moron
lost thicket
how do you think he's doing
vagrant jacinth
He'd just fucking full send it and shatter on cooldown
earnest leaf
Because we had nothing to go off of
lost thicket
He'd just fucking full send it and shatter on cooldown
bumper 2 min before using shatter
checkmate
vagrant jacinth
Fr though this season he's popping
lost thicket
less then 30 seconds pretty sure
vagrant jacinth
lost thicket
absolute chad
lost thicket
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/908181515626766380/975363049508704266/S...
Shatter isn't a ult
vagrant jacinth
Absolute gigachad
willow tartan
how is that possible to have an ult hold time of 8 seconds
lost thicket
how is that possible to have an ult hold time of 8 seconds
shift, 180 swing press q
ez
vagrant jacinth
Man would hit Q as soon as shiny meter went full
lost thicket
Man would hit Q as soon as shiny meter went full
Me with tracer
willow tartan
what's his current ult hold time?
lost thicket
what's his current ult hold time?
on which heroes
willow tartan
idk pick one let's see
vagrant jacinth
No stats for 2022 yet, I just checked
lost thicket
Overwatch League 2018: 1-2 vs Seoul Dynasty
Overwatch League 2019: 0-4 vs San Francisco Shock
Overwatch League 2020: 1-3 vs Los Angeles Valiant
Overwatch League 2021: 2-3 vs Houston Outlaws
Overwatch League 2022: 0-3 vs Houston Outlaws
out of these dallas getting fucked
which one were the best
imo 2022 > 2020 > 2019
trail perch
2018 was pretty good
cause XQC played and got fucked
and it was the dumb draw rules
solar trout
top 1000 pog
solar trout
I should really change my preds tomorrow for 3-0 SHD vs Spark but I'm too stubborn
I believe in the 3-0verwatch day
except Shock vs glads, surely that one is gonna be a close one
I understand SHD looked bad today and Spark looked good, and expecting a turnaround this quickly is asking a lot
But I have hopium
solar trout
stiff competition
north relic
yea
mortal cipher
if theyre gatekeepers they looks good nontheless
worn falcon
Philly for APAC champs
lost thicket
someone will be MVP
tropic herald
mayhem are the gatekeepers of owl
cope
solar trout
6 hours of sleep 🙃 let's go
willow tartan
why u live in a weird timezone
static pond
Central?
willow tartan
central of what?
willow tartan
it wouldnt be if you lived in the centre timezon e
static pond
Do you know what state mn is?
willow tartan
not in the centre timezone
static pond
It not?
static pond
Bruh
worn falcon
CST best time zone
static pond
I wasn't saying us is the center lol
willow tartan
no but im saying if you lived in the center the games would be at reasonable hours
static pond
MN is the central time zone in the us
willow tartan
and that you should move
static pond
I love my cold weather
willow tartan
there is cold weather in the center
just go to the poles
further you are from the equator, colder it is
static pond
Not that cold
willow tartan
you can be in the same latitude as you are currently
static pond
It cold here but not as cold as that as far as ik
willow tartan
MN is not the only place with weather like MN
earnest leaf
Another Minnesotan I see
his opinions will always be correct
Also MN is decently unique in how the weather is
Since we get such a wide range compared to majority of places
barren quest
Would've been nice if there was a OWL team for the Midwest
Chicago would make sense but might as well throw one in for Minnesota too cuz why not
earnest leaf
Another Minnesota team to let me down
nice
CDL has one
But Minnesota isn't a really super marketable or big named state
doesn't really have any big name cities either
gusty rampart
Russia most likely wouldn't happen
willow tartan
nah
gusty rampart
And maybe an AUS team
willow tartan
shadowburn comes out of hiding
gusty rampart
There's literally AUS contendies
willow tartan
number 2 genji in the multiverse
the problem is nobody plays overwatch in other regions
so itd be filled by more koreans anyways
earnest leaf
Australian team for the 8 Australians that play
lusty musk
the 19 placed florida mayhem doing a 3-0 sweep against the 1st placed new york excelsior is very interesting to me
devout path
the 19 placed florida mayhem doing a 3-0 sweep against the 1st placed new york e...
???
Who ranked nyxl 1st and why r they dumb
Who ranked Florida 19th and why r they dumb
next mesa
Lmao they're a s1 kid probably
devout path
Florida wasn’t 19th s1
I think
Only Florida I remember is sayaplayer I don’t remember if that was s1
devout path
Saya was s2 then?
devout path
No
willow tartan
there were not 20 teams in season 1
ebon aurora
I legit have no idea what to pred for APAC today lol
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I get 0 again today for APAC - I have zero faith in these preds:
sullen berry
Spark it, let's go
Hunters first game will be hyper
Stonks are up real high given their pieces have remained relatively the same as last year
With jinmu and leave still on lock, ga9a and their newest tank Daizi will be the true test of strengths against Guangzhou
vagrant jacinth
Also 0 faith lmao. But hey, at least after today we'll get a better idea of where teams in apac stand
ebon aurora
I'd have thought that after yesterday but I'm more confused than ever
like was Dragons just a game 1 blip or a more serious issue
willow tartan
like was Dragons just a game 1 blip or a more serious issue
2018, swept by glads.
2019, swept by titans.
2020, swept by hunters.
2021, swept by hunters.
shanghai dragons have never not been swept in opening weekend
ebon aurora
ngl that's kinda wild
willow tartan
shanghai sweep debuff + philadelphia never lose opening match buff
bound to happen
willow tartan
yes
dragons just were coordinated poorly
their positioning was ass a lot of the time
but the players mechanics
are still there
now that they have data to improve, they should be fine because shanghai staff is a neural network AI
ebon aurora
you did not look good on the zarya comp
which concerns me, as do you want to play Fate Winston instead?
willow tartan
i do not manage the shanghai dragons
ebon aurora
well obviously
willow tartan
lige is not playing
like their match against fusion hasn't really caused me to rate them any lower
if they lose to spark without showing any signs of improvement from last game though that's when i'll start to worry
iza and ljg should gap the spark supports from what i seen yesterday
void > bernar
LIP soldier look good
idk if they throw fate in or not, my hunch says no because if they played void all 3 maps last game that means they've been scrimming on zarya for majority of their time
ebon aurora
in fairness, the maps yesterday were pretty zarya favoured
NQS, King's, what was map 3?
willow tartan
toronto circuit royale then kings row
ebon aurora
I mean, none of those are winston maps really
vagrant cargo
you did not look good on the zarya comp
Shanghai just lost the last map because LJG fed
Fleta had a horrendous first halft in comparison to his usual performances, they looked a lot better with whoru in
ebon aurora
if they get something like gibraltar today will be interesting to see if Fate comes in
willow tartan
Shanghai just lost the last map because LJG fed
ehhh
ebon aurora
because even Dallas have been putting in Fearless for that instead of Hanbin
vagrant cargo
They just got bopped by mn3 and then an unlucky snowball happened
willow tartan
they lost the chance to hold them yes
what happened after where they lost like 3 overtime fights
not his fault
vagrant cargo
They literally had the game won, time was tickling down and he extended
Trying to clean of mn3
willow tartan
yes and then shanghai lost multiple overtime fights afterwards
vagrant cargo
Yeah
willow tartan
sure in hindsight that was the turning point
vagrant cargo
And they could have prevented that
willow tartan
but you can't blame it on one player like that
vagrant cargo
Yeah that's what I mean
willow tartan
especially when it wasn't just jaegon's positioning that was risky
vagrant cargo
I mean I kinda can, if ljg doesn't feed their Shanghai don't get snowballed and win the map which gives them momentum
And knowing Shanghais class them turning the game would not have been unrealistic tbh
willow tartan
that's a dumb way to look at things
that's like if i said if the dragons didnt lose ult fight on first map they would've won the game
oh yeah of course they would win if they just didnt lose
vagrant cargo
Not even remotely comparable because that's a scenario where Philly just played the neutral better and several outplays/missplays lead to that outcome
That was one single shit decision by them that let them get snowballed
willow tartan
yeah then so what about all the other positioning mistakes that happened?
vagrant cargo
None of those where as fatal as Ljgs in that moment lol
willow tartan
just because fusion didnt punish them didnt mean they were bad
against a better team those mistakes would definitely be punished for and the match would've been over sooner
vagrant cargo
Give me an example
willow tartan
same fight when izayaki died
vagrant cargo
Because a lot of times those Shanghai oversteps where saved by void
Which speaks of his individual class
vagrant cargo
same fight when izayaki died
U mean after ljg?
willow tartan
you mean before?
willow tartan
izayaki was caught on the high ground by fixa and zest above spawn, he drops down gets bubbled, runs into staircase room then dies to zest
jaegon runs into hotel and dives aimgod with whoru but gets beamed by fury
vagrant cargo
Yeah that was also a shit play by iza
But that was not the fight I'm talking about
willow tartan
the one before?
vagrant cargo
Wait a sec
Like that was just a unnecessary aggro move
He's also not playing in voids sightline etc
Sure Shanghai made several mistakes that costed them fights
willow tartan
im old man
vagrant cargo
That was legit what lost them the map 😭 it's 10 seconds before overtime starts and Shanghai are in a excellent position and even got better ults iirc
willow tartan
i can barely remember what i eat for lunch today
vagrant cargo
Ruff
willow tartan
right so i still dont understand what you mean though
that is a turning point for the map but also there are many more turning points that went unpunished
so shouldn't they all be the same grave mistakes?
i know there is the concept of measured aggression where you make plays you wouldn't normally do if you know the enemy won't punish you for them
vagrant cargo
Because those other missplays most of the time are at a time where u can at least reset
willow tartan
but the team still made some plays like that anyways despite being maps down and getting caught out several times
vagrant cargo
And cover up for it
And most of those plays have a high risk/high reward situation
While here it's just: u clean up a kill on a player that will respawn in time eitherway or u get killed
Just not worth the risk
And it's mainly abt the timing when he decided to do that
willow tartan
rewatched the fight
whoru was on respawn, they chose to engage anyways. unsure if they were trying to bait out support ultimates or win the fight. i dunno why they didnt nano visor since fury and zest were on respawn just to guarantee the kills
could've been that the engagement was called off but jaegon already committed
otherwise i'm unsure what was going on in their brain when it happened
NTB why did you say this
its the same stupid gander again
vagrant jacinth
It's ok dragons will win today, and dominate apac once more
willow tartan
yes but also focusing on individual instances of mistakes and breaking them down as isolated events is a mistake
because you never know what is going on within the team
i actually got hard trolled
willow tartan
charge will bring hunters close game
solar trout
pls no
willow tartan
jinmu has to play soldier
frosty patrol
hunters gonna pull out some weird shit
solar trout
just be a chad and pull out pharah anyway
willow tartan
i could see it
gigachad hunters play the exact same comp as last season
and just skill diff the charge
ball available right? 
willow tartan
what the fuck am i lookin at
thin berry
an apac game with no zarya
dreamy cave
LETS GOOOOO HUNTERS
willow tartan
pov: you play doom after week 1
dreamy cave
Sucks theres no ball.... but let's goooo
solar trout
doom destined to mid :(
thin berry
wtf is happening
dreamy cave
But this is hunters. Their used to not playing conventional tanks
solar trout
😂
thin berry
sombra to shut down the doom
noo it worked for some low tier na teams so it has to be good i promise /s
willow tartan
charge should play crong for the rest of the series
crong plays the doomfist right?
he can mirror
crongfist > >>>
solar trout
Hopefully we can see leave play as well as proper, decay, and pelican today
solar trout
of course but I mean doesn't leave have a reputation of being like really good
dreamy cave
vagrant cargo
whoru was on respawn, they chose to engage anyways. unsure if they were trying t...
Idk why ur writing a whole paragraph when what ur saying and what I'm saying isn't even contradicting itself
willow tartan
im saying that you dont know it was his fault lol
for all we know it was a team decision
vagrant cargo
It's a shit team decision executed by HIM
At the end of the day it's also his decision
willow tartan
what is he gonna say "no" to his teammates?
dreamy cave
Bro. Go to bed early.
willow tartan
you dont question your shotcaller
frosty patrol
ga9a press q challenge
vagrant cargo
what is he gonna say "no" to his teammates?
Yeah
willow tartan
????
rule number 1 of team esports
follow your IGL
discuss disagreements AFTER the game is over
in between maps
during breaks
you know?
that is the material that coaches cover in review
vagrant cargo
U do not blindly follow the call all the time
frosty patrol
2ez
willow tartan
you commit because if you dont commit then you're actively throwing
solar trout
😓
vagrant cargo
Also isn't LJG literally Shanghais igl
dreamy cave
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
willow tartan
no
solar trout
That was too close
vagrant jacinth
Yoooo
dreamy cave
vagrant cargo
In that case commiting was the literal throw
dreamy cave
Accidental
willow tartan
void
vagrant cargo
Source?
willow tartan
he is the team captain
vagrant cargo
Doesn't always mean igl
willow tartan
then we dont know who is the IGL
vagrant cargo
SBB was NYXLs team captain and he wasn't the igl
Most of the time either mts or ms are igls
willow tartan
so how do you know it is jaegon
vagrant cargo
Also it's usual that engages like that are called by the player that does it
There isn't just strictly ONE caller
cunning patrol
Rio gapping the 9a rn
willow tartan
gaga is playing a shit character
vagrant cargo
so how do you know it is jaegon
I wasn't sure that's why I asked
willow tartan
so
vagrant cargo
Because iirc I've read somewhere that ljg is the igl
hot onyx
Chaos commences next map
cunning patrol
Charge should’ve won that so easy
willow tartan
unfortunately he is stuck with jinmu so has to play perma genji
vagrant cargo
But again, there isn't just one single player that does calls
vagrant cargo
If u see a opportunity before a fight begins u call it
Bro
I don't need u to explain this to me
willow tartan
then stop being stupid
frosty patrol
But again, there isn't just one single player that does calls
opener is responsible for everything on justice
god amongst men
vagrant cargo
? 💀 ur calling me stupid after thinking captain is always igl LMFAO
vagrant cargo
god amongst men
Real
willow tartan
? 💀 ur calling me stupid after thinking captain is always igl LMFAO
no im calling you stupid after you pin the entire loss of a game onto one player for one play where you dont even know if he was the one that made the call to do said play
hot onyx
MCD as the IGL making sure his entire team focuses X-RAY during scrims 
willow tartan
literal shock fan behavior
vagrant cargo
no im calling you stupid after you pin the entire loss of a game onto one player...
Not the entire loss, do u know what an overexaggaration is
I said/meant in that moment they lost the game
dreamy cave
? 💀 ur calling me stupid after thinking captain is always igl LMFAO
Your whole argument is that gaga should swap. Shut up. If your opinion and idea was so good it would have happened in the match that they WON WITHOUT YOUR BAD TAKE
willow tartan
???
why the fuck arent you watching owl
dreamy cave
Then why are you here
willow tartan
if you're not watching overwatch esports please leave this channel
vagrant cargo
I'm in a bus zzzz
rare magnet
Has circuit 1st point ever been capped in owl
willow tartan
u have a phone dont u?
vagrant jacinth
Esports only
willow tartan
i can send u the yt link
vagrant jacinth
Silly
vagrant cargo
Then why are you here
Because me and memeicus had a discussion before the match even started related to an other match
