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That’s like 80% of the Shock fan base
Yes you are
Babybay getting slapped every time
Lmao
Half ur messages involve them
Nah bru half the time ppl don’t even be talking about Shock and u bring them up
He already said because super was here
he got invested because that
not because fan
usually if I mention shock it's to meme on someone to tilt them (like this), or it's because someone said some real dumb shit
you dont see him going full memeicus
Because people lose their brains when discussing shock because they want to hate them
its because many people argue when their favorite player are attacked
GUYS I SWEAR MUZE IS THE NEXT MT AND GOING FUCK EVERYONE
then becomes the most mid tank in the season
Muze is god
I liked shock in s1 because reddit hated a certain player(I do not like this player anymore but I liked him in s1)
Muze is just your regular copy paste apac MT
Agree
oh wow a MT good at winston
But his winston
never seen that before!
Is generational
His winston is generational
His wheel
Only a little behind fearless
Is top 5
It's pretty good
And his orisa is top 3
Fearless diffed him hard
Despite common misconception
no one cares about orisa rankings
Cope harder
she's a new hero atm
Imo
gator
Muze will be the best at the new orisa too
MuZe bitchslapped gator on rein twice
thats a high bar here
I see the cope is hitting harder
And was a top 5 ball
Oh you guys are talking about tank players
thinking his rein was anything special
Some1 clears all
Who
also being top 5 ball means nothing
He's a generational talent but ur too much of a beta cuck to see
when there were like two people who actually played him
Cope and excuses yet again
Jihun was the best ball in owl
Real
Agree
Charge fraud org
Simple chimp brain, rating decent player way too high
Imagine CSW on a good team
Touch grass
Charge selling herbalife
This applies to you
Ballow jihun reiner fate ga9a are the top wrecking wheel players of all time
Imo
He’s on a good team it’s charges year babeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
cry harder shitta
He is very overated
I'm not the one crying
Ameng is generational
"But guys Super's Winston is bad"
Not even the best
My team is winning Europa league rn
On his one trick
No they’re not
He was
just a sad delusional muze simp
Ameng was the third best wheel in owl s3
His ball eas revolutionary
Have u ever looked in the mirror and felt happy? I doubt it
aww did I hit a nerve
Behind mikeyy and jihun imho
are you upset?
No
Again
Muze is definitely mid, most people were selling him as the new rookie stomping teams. He is not bad, but not good in comparison with the current MTs
The same rule you guys apply to someone like Danteh
ur an AI

Fearless is definitely mid, most people were selling him as the new rookie stomping teams. He is not bad, but not good in comparison with the current MTs
Imo
This is true
Imo
Daan is definitely mid, most people were selling him as the new rookie stomping teams. He is not bad, but not good in comparison with the current MTs
Midfurt…
Imo
Someone is definitely mid, most people were selling him as the new rookie stomping teams. He is not bad, but not good in comparison with the current MTs
Real
Disagree
Someone is the best KR contenders MT
I am a someone fan I just had to be sarcasm
Since fearless
Smurf is definitely mid, most people were selling him as the new rookie stomping teams. He is not bad, but not good in comparison with the current MTs
Imo
Imo
Anyways
Smurf very mid
Memes aside, saying muze off Winston isn't as good as I make him out to be is wrong but somewhat understandable
But saying he's mid is just a dumbass statement @worn falcon
Like what flameknight said is arguable u can make points for it
Flameknight is low tier imo
But mid means midtable/below that and there are only like 3 MTs better
It would be really funny if a team like Shock were to buy Someone that’d be so funny and wild
He's an NA reddit NPC
I want them to do that
Free him
From the poverty franchise
cope, my takes are better than yours will ever be
Titans should have signed someone had the budget to outbid a poverty franchise
lol cope
Titans don't deserve him
Shanghai deserve him
They will be a big team
Name 10 MTs better than muze
In 5 months
Yeah
Coluge monkey clears muze easily
Real
Next season
What’s your guys take on august 14th, what effect will it bring to the league
What's August 14th
As the core
speedily of age I think
Not true
Yeah I figured
speedily is 16?
17
Ur dented
like your mom
Kellan is shit
Google the rate of deaths due to heart failure from guys ur weightclass before u bark at me
Titans will stop running MT compositions
It's not to late maybe u can change ur life around !
And perma run double HS
They should
Cope…
False is ight off MT
Mirror also good on his 3 trick
false monkey simply is not it
Champions
Also only start one euro hitscan at a time
False getting stomped by a low mid team
then you have Aspire and Shockwave trying to break their backs
No it isn't
i clear false monkey
mf can't jump consistently
False wishes
He chose mayhem
Very sad
In hindsight
Also no player coach adam in owl
More than likely
lmfao
Money
i am top 1
Ur bottom 1
On his signature heroes at least
Bottom 7 is solidly Sasin Punk Adam Vulcan Vestola Poko Bernar
Everybody shut up
I see False being 8th on that list
Sorry
False doesn’t beat Vestola
If Titans coaching sorts itself out and puts him on zarya or dva
wassssssssuppppppp
Can’t believe NYXL used him as a roster filler so that he can’t have his breakout ROTY season in 2023
Such a selfish move from a horrible org
Fusion would never sign a good player on a bad team
what
Belosrea > Vulcan
no
yes
balls
belosrea is bad, yes
doesn't make vulcan better
it's
mr bad and mr bad 2
belosrea is a bottom 3 mt
vulcan is a bottom 3 ot
vulcan won cotenders TWICE
oh yeah because 2020 October and August in NA contenders makes him good
it does
he was not a top 2 ot in the 2nd weakest real contenders region
Fucked by Bobby Wasabi
He got 2nd place a bunch
Of times
Idk if he is better than
who is adam
agree
Poko
vulcan > adam
Boston almost signed vulcan
poko isnt very good
neither is vulcan
vulcan is amazing
where do you rate vulcan out of starting offtanks
Idk he might be bottom 4 at best case scenario
top 20
wow
there's not even 20 starting offtanks
vulcan is a negative place starting offtank player
good take
u like a bad player
who?
opener
Fucking hell ok
opener is much better on his role than vulcan
He’s not worse than Marve1
marve1 is great dooms
Doesn’t sound like a bad bottom 3 list
Opener is bottom 1 on MS
For main tank
nah
opener has diffed ojee
Has been one of the strongest
and has never been diffed
No he didn't lol
It was a tracer gap
And tank gap
kungarna mykl lacks eyes
cannot see that opener bailed out krillin 4 times a fight
And monkey>doom/zarya
krillin also sucks
Agree
I just realised
Belosrea is korean Hadi
Mag(monkey)
Hadi is more known for wrecking wheel than reindhardt
better than starters like landon skairipa kaan crimzo myunb0ng coldest aimgod creative
Just london rush one play team
so not a bottom 8 starting fs
He is not better than creative, kaan, and crimzo
Lmao
Belosrea is known for being shit on wheel and monke so he forces rush
Hadi is good on dive tanks
Just europeans
Like rush
Belosrea can play monkey, not at a high level though
kr season 3 lhcloudy
Super monkey C tier outside of neo goats
Cloudy while he was in owl
Was not a one play
He became a one play
After leaving owl
in season 3 he one tricked rein, in season 2 he was very flexible
hence why I said
season 3
Compared to other more talented winstons it is
On *winston???
Christ next you’re gonna say he’s equal to Reiner
Doesn't make him bad at that champion
Reiner himself rated super highly
Disagree
Hi winston was solid b
When he played
ok guys
Good for him, I’m sure I can find other reliable thoughts from his twitter.com page
something we can all agree on
charon > ho1
and levity is stupid for picking ho1 in the contenders draft
I have never watched a HO1 game in my life so I don’t feel like I can have an opinion on him
ho1 is a goat
Great I love overrating the flexibility of the best rein-hog two trick to walk the planet
based
In my honest opinion LeeJaeGon clears all
yes
but
opener
is the best main support player
while
ljg
is the best dps player
Trapp>
guxue is high A for me
Unless Architect starts
They had a new HC every month
Lost their starter FS right before playoffs
xue is a solid
Idk and architect was also
jazzy agrees with me
guxue isnt S until he gets another good season
He isn't S
He is S on monkey
Tho imho
moose guxue ga9a and others A tier
and sado
kind of odd imo
Because yakpung neko and irrelevant OT playah i can not member name of
Very sad
Imho
kalios
agree potentially
Conveniently forgetting they had YaHo
NYXL signed our dear Mayor Eric Adams 🙏
Thankfully i did
It’s in reality pelican
and the best player in o2 history is spectra
He’s not even the best booster in o2 histoey
Best player in o2frauds history is flora
Happy proper gator coluge viol2t funnyastro
Best team ever
All players who have something in common
That team is so bad
He fell off
and what is the thing in common
Explain
proper finn and pelican
best o2 blast players
i guess viol2t as well
back in his day
B**sting
don't forget sado and bqb
Boston chose alemao and kellex over astro because of a 10 game suspension for boosting
what season?
i forgor all these
how can u create a boost team
and not have the playa hwho got banned for 90% of s1 for boosting
^
Cause gator is better on most champions
Imo
Yea
Sado better wheel monkey and is good on rein orisa
While gator wheel monkey is a little questionable
i agree with "EVER UPWARD"
He was under a different name
“Sad”
Sado wheel is also questionable
Owl tankers were not good at wheel
is hweel
Last year
ball?
Yes
Sado > NFTank
Personally i respect gator for trying to secure
Financial
Security
At a young age
IT ISNT
Explain
Lmao
Nft is nowhere near financial security
When are reign playing gator
When they play main tankers
Monkey is meta
Sorry for being objectively based on the timeline
They were a doom team
Why do you post your rankings daily
Sadly
Doom sucks imo
Hopefully
I am bored and want to fight
just lacked a good squadron around him
Or zarya
paris anywhere but bottom 2 is absolute brainrot
Disagree besides ansoonjae brig. Defiant had a solid ball comp on paper
Lastro zen
Michelle on his one play
Heesu sombra
Aspire tracer
Not the worst team
Imo
He isn't
how is SF lower than both dallas and glads
what
Honestly
I think paris should be last in power rankings
they just struggle at every spot and have legit only won a single map
Paris has only lost to good teams
Titans and boston
KDG
Have lost to very shit teams
Sadly
Consider strength of schedule and the recent moment Shock had where they dropped a map to New York (wasn’t in opening week either so no excuses)
but glads lost
and dallas lost 2 maps to a team with ans
and pati
Its Fuel>glads>ATL
atlanta is like 7th NA lmao
This is so good
I potentially agree
Atl looking like a middling team as long as they force
The fist
who is that
And if they don’t play the ven
Kai
Decays 2.25 solo kills per 10 is actually crazy
Proper shits on decay
But proper has a actual team who helps him and backs him up so solo kills are hard to come by
Given these stats I can say that Finale clears Proper
ratio + cope + seethe + mald
Shut up nerd
Fr who is this nobody acting all aggressive 🤦♂️
Its the internet
everyone is aggressive
The problem with this community nowadays not enough civilized debaters 🤦🤦🤦🤦
In my opinion I think Florida mayhem will win kickoff clash in a landslide victory similar to how the Dallas fuel woke up last season

Ok Grandpa lets get you to bed
Stop being stupid
Sames
London above Paris nowadays tho
He put them bottom three
They will stop
i have them
making hawaii
just chillin
If that happens I will sacrifice one of my testicles
i will match another testicle
so that you can have a complete pair
not that it will happen
It will be imho
A coaching gap
Flubby's strong leadership qualities
Will push titans to da top
disagree
But in reality
From the sack
Ballsack esports owner
Thinks assasin is good
And that opener is better than funnyastro
was good on runaway
then justice broke him
very sad
like justice did with mag as well
But the 2nd place NAC team had gator hawk funnyastro
All proven owl talents
Very strange
na1st
would have been good
if age restriction didnt cuck him
imo
kinda like if sugarfree joined now
i would not rate him over the likes of
speedily
Bad comparison
Na1st kept grinding and became bad
Sugarfree stopped grinding da game
Two hog one tricks 
he's a coach now so he gets some slack
Tomorrow is the big day
The day the Philadelphia Fusion proves the haters right and starts their 0-24 season
Valiant vs Charge
The real showstopper
The preds killer
The match I won't be half awake watching
Diya dopium
Thoughts on these preds for tomorrow?
finally a sane person that only does pickems one day at a time
instead of doing the whole weekend
I mean it makes sense right? If a team is playing multiple games in a weekend you want to see how they perform in the first match to see if they're gaining confidence or whatever
also you want to see if there are meta shifts and how that affects the teams
also except those arent on the same day
how is someone on over 60 points already
wym how
like, that's basically every pred right so far?
no
what's the maximum number of points so far
is this person the OWL scriptwriter
Best way to do it
he's just a good gamer
nah I'm joking, that's just kind of bonkers
Good preds too
fair play though
Let me check mine
I'm on 40
I'm on 41 points
2707th
i did well week 1
Yeah 1st is on 62 then 2nd place is on 53
week 2 i wouldve done well but my preds didnt save
that's already a massive gap
so i may as well give up for the whole season and try next year
I forgot to do crystal ball picks for KO clash 😭
LLLLL
i pick fuel reign dragons dynasty but im thinking reign fall out cause their doomfist comp got found out
F
depending on how shock perform against glads
its probably going to be one of those two teams
v fuel
Predding Valiant v Charge was hard
idk which way that will go
I just think Nohill might be the difference
i predded valiant to win against charge and spark not gonna lie
also Sasin Zarya
i think they can get away with week 1 shenanigans
teams are just getting warmed up
that's when coaching makes the big difference
to discover shit that others havent
but i think seoul sweeps them
unless smurf shits the bed no way they lose
I'll wait to see how they perform before doing preds for the next round
but on paper, that seems reasonable
i just have them set beforehand and update them as the matches play
vs Cr0ng zarya 
in case i die of a heart attack or something and i cant do tomorrow's preds
you know?
I just think it will be a coaching diff in favour of Nohill
should be a belter though
i think chengdu will have an uncomfortably close first game of the season against guangzhou
farway gaming bro
wait if Chengdu don't play tomorrow how do they play 6 matches this tournament?
do they play FOUR times next week?
yes
oof
yikes
i dont know how they decided who will play 4 games in one week
I mean I get that it's necessary to fit the tournament in but still that's rough
maybe they just had a random draw
could it be handicapped based on last season?
makes no sense
since Dragons and Chengdu were the two best APAC teams
or maybe they want to make it more even, idk
but yeah that's probably not how it was done
presumably it was random
would be interesting to know
presumably except for the fact we seem to always get dal v hou opening week every season
I change it based on how teams do ok
But posting entire week preds are more fun
think that's purely for hype
yeah which means
the schedule is not random
OWL script is real, not in the sense they script matches but they script scheduling
paris was a scheduling script in 2021
SoS
I mean it's like anything, how do you determine a schedule for something like the premier league
is that random?
yes
thats not the case in OWL
but for this season, that will be the same
every NA team plays each other twice
every APAC team plays each other 4 times (once each tournament)
i dont know much about premier league but i would presume there is no situation there where they have to have teams play a bunch of matches more than some other team
because they are all in one region so there's no need for 4 games on one weekend
so the stages seem roughly balanced for all teams
such as this stage, Dallas have had 4 really tough matches to start but then they have Paris/Titans to finish off which on paper is a much kinder 2nd half
so for this season at least, it feels like there is some algorithm involved to work out the schedule
Fuel 3-0? That seems optimistic considering how solid Toronto have been
again, not random
It does, but it’ll be a close 3-0
I was torn between 3-1 and 3-2 Mayhem
Like each map will be one team fight away
Also Spark over Seoul doesn't seem to be a popular choice
I could see spark beating seoul
no
I mean I can see it, I just don't think it happens
the only way spark wins is if all their players hit their strides simultaneously
there's no one spark player than can carry this matchup
not one of those games
not even Shy/AlphaYi?
shy deadlifting cant win a match against seoul
ngl
Spark are the better team
you need multiple players popping off if u wanna take down seoul
lige shy alphayi superich irony goes even with or beats smurf fits profit vindaim creative
emphasis on the supports
thats what u said about vancouver
you don't think Seoul play Profit on Zarya?
Vancouver took Boston to one team fight away from victory
if they do
and boston are looking like bottom 2
then spark wins easily
I agree on the support take though that Spark's look better
So why does spark never have a centered 6-7 player team
I do really rate Creative though, ngl
Why do they max out their roster every year
especially his Ana
billibilli money
if u sign players then other teams cant sign them
they have 2 tanks that will play, a 3 man dps rotation, and 2 supports
architect and bernar play animal crossing during scrims
"that will play"
lol
lige mentally boomed by himself
Bernar Zarya though, no no
architect gonna boom on the genji yo
if spark knew lige was gonna play 100% then they wouldnt have signed bernar
such is fact
no shot seoul doesn’t play smurf monkey
except his heroes are such niche picks
seoul has meta advantage
I meant in OW1
owl is on ow2?
but sure he might see play if they play the ghost bubble comp
Can’t wait for OWL to go in OW1 now that the beta is finished
And see what Seoul and Valiant come up with
haker diya rein zarya
valiant has 6 dps
dumbasses haven’t read nohill’s plans
sasin and the dps are all focusing on 1-2 tanks each
.
mass subbing will occur
im not doubting nohill
haker > your favorite tank player
Is Haker an actual Sombra OTP or does he play other stuff
I know nothing about him other than what the community said
yeah just sombra
but rein under the nohill system
Do Shanghai put Lip on Sombra I wonder
no
if anyone can make it work he can
yes
lip monkey
I’m much higher on Spark than I am on Titans
The peak of my Titans propaganda was making an upset run to 8th NA
sombra in ow2 is basically just deal damage
you said 7th one time
LIP's manual hacks were pristine and his ability to get value out of them was one of the things that put him so far ahead of the rest of the league on sombra