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willow tartan
i think he's upper level but not elite
problem is though glads as a whole are kinda sloppy
willow tartan
???
next mesa
imo
willow tartan
yeah and if you had a second LIP aka, talented player, like I said
same thing could be said
next mesa
what
willow tartan
???
cunning patrol
You’re mom
tawdry hamlet
In my head I saw Atlanta and LAG being projected top but always losing out to Dallas because of holes in rosters overlooked because star power 
I foresaw lag having a s4 Philly moment
willow tartan
visa hell?
tawdry hamlet
Star power that can't perform and plays sloppily
Well performs but performs sloppily I guess
Like they have all those big names but combined they're a little lackluster it feels like
willow tartan
when push comes to shove and they fight the best teams its really just that mechanics that they are banking on to carry them forward
did you see their match against dallas?
tawdry hamlet
That was the really close one right?
willow tartan
glads were up two maps, dallas make a mid-game call to swap their playstyle and glads never found a counter
simply a team differential
tawdry hamlet
It feels like superteam vs team with a core of good players vibes
Also why did Vancouver sign mirror and how is hadi actually winning games
I only saw hadis rein domination game
Since I skipped scrub teams 
willow tartan
london coordinating more as a team than glads is 
anyways the answer to how london is winning games is that vancouver and boston are really bad
tawdry hamlet
Hydron being one of the replaceable players on at underrated him lowkey
Boston lmao
If we pick up a low mid flex support and an above average flex support and a coming out of retirement Striker we got a champ roster 
And marve1 and half of their contenders roster
tawdry hamlet
Lip and Kevin will never be overrated, best dps in the world
I'm only half serious tho
earnest leaf
I mean it ironically and unironically though
I think some of his hard hitscans get rated a bit too high considering he hasn't realistically had to face super hard hitscan competition for the most part
and his performance on sombra gets his other heroes rated a bit too high sometimes
I don't doubt his ability to be a top hitscan, be he is decently close to one tricking sombra most of the time
earnest leaf
like i'm pretty sure over half his playtime in 2020 is legit just sombra
tawdry hamlet
Didn't he play Cass often
tawdry hamlet
actual trolling playstyle that's lowkey sick
earnest leaf
and 52/124 maps were on sombra in 2021
tawdry hamlet
Imagine being so good at an annoying hero you just troll the whole league and win everything
earnest leaf
I basically just want to see lip actually have to hard mirror hitscan vs people
instead of just swapping every now and then for parts of maps
A full series widow mirroring fits for example
tawdry hamlet
Fits is like my favorite hard hitscan in the league
He's so solid
Fits Cass is just so smooth he fucks
untold surge
Pew pew
willow tartan
i mean to be fair to him there just hasn't been a meta that forces him to play widowmaker
(because god of widowmakers diem played during it)
earnest leaf
that and he was the best sombra so he might as well of one tricked it
hollow bough
@tropic herald bozo
willow tartan
order 66??
tropic herald
That is a certified mik gif
next mesa
I think some of his hard hitscans get rated a bit too high considering he hasn't...
its not
rated too high
imo
real smart analysts know that lip widow is not among the very elite
although still
maybe S tier imo
however his ashe
is the best in the league
cass also good
overall great player
just on raw aim
unmatched
hot onyx
my usual first pick has paid off
no Beckys?
alpine sparrow
hot onyx
overall great player
Babel is better
split flume
proper better
idle gorge
Is that reaper skins tokens?
hot onyx
proper better
If Proper is good how come he never played for BM Hawk?
Checkmate liberal
plush grail
Is that reaper skins tokens?
Yes
200 tokens
Kinda cringe how they just bunched it in with the new update
north relic
Kinda cringe how they just bunched it in with the new update
After anni is more beta news
Then the reaper would be late
frosty patrol
anniversary remixes are being cycled with betas
until presumably launch (at least pvp launch)
north relic
Me
balmy wolf
me
willow tartan
no moderators speak in this channel
sly lagoon
How has the east games gone
willow tartan
east hasnt started yet
next week
covid issue
so they ahve to cathc yp and play like 4 matches in one week
sly lagoon
I thoght east startrd last week
frosty patrol
vagrant jacinth
East starts this week
frosty patrol
yes
balmy wolf
I'm watching some old noobhunter vids and man kabaji used to be really cracked aim wise
tropic herald
north relic
Proper is a stat bot
north relic
Hotba is the best tracer
frosty patrol
yes
balmy wolf
where did u get these beutiful stats
fuck how do i sprll
bbueildiful
beutiful
:(
willow drum
Proper is a stat bot
and also the best in NA at tracer
havent seen him take a shit on leave and lip so cant say in the league
but when it happens the statement will be updated
frosty patrol
you haven’t seen him face haker tracer
willow drum
thats because haker wont even get to meet sf shock
in midseason madness
and neither will hotba
willow drum
wrong sadly
nohill cant make a decent team good
i would also be surprised if hotba plays tracer over finale
cedar oasis
Shock lose to any decent team that can play more then 1 style
willow drum
wrong once again
shock is #1 in NA unless proven otherwise
and a team with 2 washed up valorant players wont beat them
sad!
north relic
Doesn’t argue against putting shock 5th
willow drum
Doesn’t argue against putting shock 5th
that is because there is no point in arguing with idiots
it is the same as arguing against someone who believes the earth is flat
north relic
He is based
willow drum
in his ATL takes yeah
willow drum
Don’t 8 teams make it to midseason madness?
i meant from the valiant side
frosty patrol
shock are my least favorite team
willow drum
and i think it is 8
hot onyx
and neither will hotba
.
willow drum
as seen by this chart
hot onyx
Replace “el” with “sh” and you’re correct
willow drum
he might actually play dps over finale
thats the sad part lol
but finale is probably more versatile
hot onyx
Also there is a slim chance of Valiant making it to midseason madness
hot onyx
Seoul decide to coin flip and it lands on bad
hot onyx
Fusion decide not to sign Sado and Sanguinar at the last minute
hot onyx
or spark instead of philly
Spark are way better than Philly???
willow drum
Spark are way better than Philly???
looking at it now spark is prob better than philly
philly have belosrea
after all
hot onyx
Dps are equal but there’s a massive gap in tanks and supports
Like
Dragons vs Titans gap in tanks and supports
north relic
Fury szn
willow drum
still see fusion winning over val
and i also dont see a world where shock dont qualify for midseason m
hot onyx
I can see a world where Fusion shit the bed even harder than I expect
willow drum
yes
hot onyx
MN3 Zest physically not being able to cope with the weight of Belosrea at an OWL level alongside a weaker supportline than their contenders team
willow drum
MN3 Zest physically not being able to cope with the weight of Belosrea at an OWL...
who was t1 ms
unique right
tropic herald
Does dragons have the same line up
Essentially
hot onyx
Does dragons have the same line up
Except for releasing their best hitscan they have the same core
cedar oasis
Cant wait for a Dallas vs dragons 2 times in the finals like last year
hot onyx
Gladiators vs Spark*
cedar oasis
Sorry even if spark do manage to not shit the bed for 1 tournament dragons still stomp them
Same with glads
Unless both teams sandbag again
raw ermine
drags are pretty similar
willow drum
dallas very middling dps line
willow drum
does not matter when reaper falls out of meta
raw ermine
best reaper guy
willow drum
Sparkle Doha both s tier
sparkle has not been s tier off of the preformances he has had
and doha has not played
cedar oasis
Guriyo will come out after his intense training and be a top 5 hitscan
willow drum
therefore I am not confident in doha being s tier
and sparkle has looked not confident and has fed
more so than usual
thus he is A
willow drum
they got 3-0ed by houston
cedar oasis
Dont you know the first game curse?
Moron
Just wait philly gonna stomp the dragons
willow drum
Dont you know the first game curse?
does not mean shit because houston is not a good team
by that logic shock should have lost at least a map to paris
cedar oasis
Dallas have never won a first game
Doesn't matter who they playe they will always lose first game
Just like how philly will always win First game
willow drum
and shock have always dropped a map first weekend
doesnt mean that curses cant stop
dallas curse of misery stopped last year as well
i dislike using these patterns as copium for teams
because often times these patterns have not happened enough to say anything other than they are just coincidences
twin bloom
Sparkle Doha both s tier
🤣
willow drum
i hope no one takes them literally
north relic
The Houston Dallas game is a bad way to rate either team
Houston that game was looking like the best team NA they over performed imo
willow drum
yep
north relic
Houston is a good team but definitely on the lower end
twin bloom
Sp9rkle is A tier
Always has been
Doha sucks
Never has been good
Ever
In history
balmy wolf
june joust?
frosty patrol
doha is an A+ tier reaper mei sombra
twin bloom
He is not good imho
frosty patrol
B tier genji pharah echo
twin bloom
Doha was an s tier sombra
His sombra lost to the ratlanter reigns dive composition
next mesa
Doha is A tier
next mesa
On sombra
twin bloom
On a good team
twin bloom
Doha is A tier
Ok
next mesa
I agree with ur analysis
willow drum
I agree with ur analysis
"Levy" and other top tier analysts have agreed with me that Dallas have a middling DPS line
multiple B tier players and one A tier player is 100% middling
next mesa
Sparkle is hitting S tier
Imo
But this season his stocks kinda dropped
With the minor Genji feed
hot onyx
Dallas having only one consistently good dps player is what's holding them back from greatness
oh how i wish we lived in a world where Rush continued exclusively signing former Element Mystic players
and put his bank account into MN3
instead of reapison and guri-joke
ebon aurora
if they're beating good teams when their DPS are underperforming i can't imagine what will happen if/when their DPS click
hot onyx
Hanbin Fielder does that to a mf tbh
next mesa
Because they have the best tank in the league and a top 5 support line
hot onyx
top 3* support line
ebon aurora
the support lines I'd put on par are Shanghai and Glads - that's it
next mesa
Twilight chorong
hot onyx
Shanghai and Glads are better, but Fuel is a very close 3rd
ebon aurora
Toronto is a fair shout
ebon aurora
I'd probably say about even
hot onyx
Twilight chorong
as much as I love Twilight CH0R0NG I would take Fielder ChiYo if i had the choice
but a heavily close 4th
hot onyx
debateable but I can't argue either way
ebon aurora
I'd say Fielder is slightly better than Twilight and Chor0ng is slightly better than Chiyo
but it's very very close
hot onyx
seeing people invest in Defiant stonks before Although is even with the team is a happy sight
ebon aurora
Fuel v Defiant could be one of the games of the weekend
next mesa
Twilight
While overrated imo
Is still S tier
And his playstyle
Is better than fielder in OW2
ebon aurora
who is calling Twilight overrated
next mesa
Imo
next mesa
who is calling Twilight overrated
Me
hot onyx
he was the 7th best flex support in the league last season
ebon aurora
I think Fuel will beat Defiant but I think it will be close
hot onyx
saying he was top 5 is overrating him
ebon aurora
maybe a 5 mapper?
hot onyx
without Although?
ebon aurora
also would it be fair to say Fuel have had the toughest start to the season
hot onyx
that's optimistic
hot onyx
then they play Paris and Titans
ebon aurora
I can't think of a tougher SoS so far for one of the top teams
shame no Shock v Fuel in this stage
unless they meet in the tournament itself
how close do we think Glads will make it against Shock
because that feels like Shock's first real test
I didn't expect Outlaws to put up too much resistance and I was right
willow drum
because that feels like Shock's first real test
we have said that for outlaws as well
ebon aurora
so many cool individual matchups: Kevster v Proper on Tracer, Reiner v Coluge on Winston, Shu v Finn on Ana...
willow drum
didnt think outlaws underpreformed either
notice how he didnt talk about the ans v kilo matchup
because the difference is very big
kilo takes it easily!
willow drum
hasn't Kilo been playing some sombra stuff
not a lot lmao
kilo played sombra for like 8 mins
frosty patrol
their first 4 opponents are all top-mid NA
justice had the toughest first 3 arguably
ebon aurora
justice had the toughest first 3 arguably
Toronto, Reign, Dallas? Yeah not a bad shout
frosty patrol
everyone else played at least one bad team first 3
ebon aurora
compared to Dallas: Outlaws, Justice, Glads, Defiant
where is the bad team there lol
stuck radish
still cant believe atlanta got swept by the Washington Justice
ebon aurora
who do Justice have this week
willow drum
still cant believe atlanta got swept by the Washington Justice
oml
frosty patrol
who do Justice have this week
shitter teams
this is the easy part of our schedule
guaranteed 5-1
ebon aurora
but then after Defiant Fuel have Titans and Paris
willow drum
still cant believe that proper got bob when mer1t got 43% bob
ebon aurora
so that evens out
stuck radish
still cant believe that proper got bob when mer1t got 43% bob
proper was carrying him all along
ebon aurora
still cant believe that proper got bob when mer1t got 43% bob
what map was that where Shock played Ashe?
I'm sure I only remember Proper playing Tracer, Genji and Echo v Outlaws
ebon aurora
ooh
willow drum
proper was carrying him all along
i meant when mer1t was on runaway
funny how proper was the echo player when he was with pelican lmao
hot onyx
so many cool individual matchups: Kevster v Proper on Tracer, Reiner v Coluge on...
FunnyAstro vs Viol2t on lucio
cunning patrol
Viol2t gaps him
worn falcon
Boombox beats them
balmy wolf
Hellfire is so jealous of Dallas Fuel
boombox is a bad ms
clearly coolmatt is the best ms
willow drum
Hellfire is so jealous of Dallas Fuel
? why would I be jealous
cloud latch
clearly coolmatt is the best ms
counter argument, mano
willow drum
dallas fuel is owned by envy esports
tidal marsh
Hellfire is so jealous of Dallas Fuel
i want london to top me too
willow drum
if i had envy as my boss i would literally cry
cloud latch
kuki lucio solos
tidal marsh
if i had envy as my boss i would literally cry
could be worse, could be immortals
willow drum
i want london to top me too
thats true
chadi is so hot
he needs 2 b on top of me
😍
balmy wolf
no
tidal marsh
shock with the 3 peat
tidal marsh
doubt
balmy wolf
woohpo
tidal marsh
shock's gonna choke
willow drum
buddy buddy
playoffs is in like
5 months
maybe even 6 lmao
proper could literally just be the best dps player in owl
spoiler alert: (he is)
balmy wolf
yes
tidal marsh
balmy wolf
Hello bois
balmy wolf
tis i
willow drum
in GF
balmy wolf
A noob
willow drum
Hello bois
whats up hru
tidal marsh
i can't compare apac and NA teams till i see them compete
willow drum
i can't compare apac and NA teams till i see them compete
who do u think is the best in NA rn
and why is it the shock
tidal marsh
who do u think is the best in NA rn
glads
willow drum
oh god
last nimbus
i think glads/dallas/shock are on par with each other
shock has consistent coaching glads has worse coaching and dallas got a bit of both
willow drum
i think glads/dallas/shock are on par with each other
yes in the degree that all 3 could win against each other
but no in the sense that shock is preferred over both
tidal marsh
shock have played paris, london, outlaws and new york
willow drum
they're competetive
shock is preferred over both
tidal marsh
they've started off with the weakest teams in the league so far
last nimbus
yeah idk if i would
willow drum
they've started off with the weakest teams in the league so far
wrong, houston is not a bad team
tidal marsh
wrong, houston is not a bad team
its houston
willow drum
its houston
they are not one of the weakest teams in the league
they have mf pelican
tidal marsh
its houston
tidal marsh
its houston
last nimbus
its houston
overwatch league viewer trying to argue in 2022
tidal marsh
overwatch league viewer trying to argue in 2022
its houston
willow drum
you're p dumb if you think houston is worse than paris nyxl titans and boston
tidal marsh
you're p dumb if you think houston is worse than paris nyxl titans and boston
good thing thats not what i think
willow drum
good thing thats not what i think
good
at least you have brain cells
yes and what notable teams has glads won against?
balmy wolf
justice top 1
willow drum
that gives you any confidence in them?
willow drum
justice top 1
On 1/3 of their matches, yes
hot onyx
yes and what notable teams has glads won against?
they have played 3 matches
and took Dallas to 5 maps
tidal marsh
and took Dallas to 5 maps
dallas took them to 5 maps
willow drum
and won
balmy wolf
ya shouldn't ur logic make dallas better than lag
willow drum
ya shouldn't ur logic make dallas better than lag
dallas is better than lag
no one is denying that
hot onyx
dallas is better than lag
for now
last nimbus
Does it really matter
last nimbus
Shd will win anyway
frosty patrol
and in every dream of his he shits on lip
his dreams are wrong
willow drum
Does it really matter
no but it cures my boredom
frosty patrol
you see
tidal marsh
Shd will win anyway
true
frosty patrol
haker shits on proper in grand finals
balmy wolf
haker?
hot onyx
haker shits on proper in grand finals
Opener doesn't make gf???
frosty patrol
Opener doesn't make gf???
unfortunately mag forgets how to engage
willow drum
lmao
- valiant has to get to gf
- proper has to get to gf
- haker needs to play out of his 4 partners
- nohill needs to not be promoted to god before then
balmy wolf
tbh cant wait for apac
tidal marsh
that gives you any confidence in them?
we'll see on saturday
willow drum
unfortunately mag forgets how to engage
the justice broke mag
smh
its like the ship of theseus
frosty patrol
@hot onyx opener would win gf if he had a fdps without inconsistency and a mt who knows how to engage
hot onyx
<@398500839469219850> opener would win gf if he had a fdps without inconsistency...
off tank meta in gf?
willow drum
<@398500839469219850> opener would win gf if he had a fdps without inconsistency...
opener would win if he was on sf shock
frosty patrol
ot double hs meta justice 4-0 in grand finals
last nimbus
I want to watch fury play
frosty patrol
I want to watch fury play
mid
willow drum
besides that
frosty patrol
along with justice
willow drum
along with justice
???
tidal marsh
the big 3 NA are shock dallas glads
willow drum
i see what u did tehre
cunning patrol
Justice are 4th
hot onyx
besides that
i see them beating Shock
frosty patrol
Justice are 4th
I’ll take it
tidal marsh
atlanta #1 when speedily becomes of age
willow drum
i see them beating Shock
do you predict them winning against sf?
cunning patrol
Double fs is a myth
hot onyx
do you predict them winning against sf?
yes
tidal marsh
Double fs is a myth
lucio is the meta defining hero
willow drum
lucio is the meta defining hero
for now yeah
hot onyx
Gladiators are getting better and better everytime the weeks go by
cunning patrol
That is how team games work yes
hot onyx
keeping Patiphan benched showed it
cunning patrol
Teams get better the longer they play together 😱
hot onyx
and seeing Ans adapt better
hot onyx
Teams get better the longer they play together 😱
yes but Gladiators in particular is one team that needs extra development
tidal marsh
Dva meta O_O
north relic
dva ball best two tanks in ow1
Now both are bottom three
Actually
Hog orisa might be worse
willow drum
yes but Gladiators in particular is one team that needs extra development
thoughts on ans uh soldier
north relic
mid
north relic
Reformed
willow drum
still mid
hot onyx
good coaching and an S tier squad surrounding you does that to a mf with revolutionary mechanical skill
hot onyx
best lucio in the world
tidal marsh
also
willow drum
funnyastro
very solid
tidal marsh
houston seems to being very into dantank
cunning patrol
Astro trolled ilios it was kind of funny
tidal marsh
houston seems to being very into dantank
reminds me of seagull tank
hot onyx
one troll makes him mid but multiple from Faith makes him A tier
hot onyx
beating after being hit with a bionade instead of taking clear cover is trolling
tidal marsh
its kinda insane comparing roster sizes for each season how massive they can get
cunning patrol
beating after being hit with a bionade instead of taking clear cover is trolling
0 understanding of the game
tidal marsh
beating after being hit with a bionade instead of taking clear cover is trolling
beat
willow drum
faith incredibly good
cunning patrol
Also never called him mid
tidal marsh
have faith
hot onyx
when he plays on a team above bottom 3 and performs well i'll believe it
but ms Myunbong overrated imo
cunning patrol
You just don’t know what ur talking about lmao
willow drum
dont understand why gnji is on the MS
i think the fs matters 1000% more than the ms
in this meta
so i would rather take the devil i dont know over the devil i do know
so please put gnj on ana
hot onyx
You just don’t know what ur talking about lmao
you don't have any evidence that your analysis is constitutional
i have been on a podcast
therefor my opinion is more reliable
cunning patrol
Ur opinion is the least reliable in this chat imo
hot onyx
Ur opinion is the least reliable in this chat imo
i agree
cunning patrol
Shoulda just gone for sgn gnj backline
hot onyx
I mean u were wrong they’re in the same tier lol
no team is currently in the same tier of dogshit as Boston and Titans
cunning patrol
London and Paris are
north relic
Valiant
hot onyx
Paris and London are a shit tier above
cunning patrol
They aren’t
hot onyx
Paris tough schedule
hot onyx
and London beat both the shits convincingly
north relic
Paris are in their tier
hot onyx
but they're in the same tier
willow drum
Permanently down one
perhaps but if u can land fat nades
and hope kellan remembers how to dive
and yaki is yaki
then should be fine
north relic
You aren’t winning if you rely on a fat nade every fight
willow drum
yes but myung does not
do fat nades
any fight
in fact he does not nade the enemy at all
hot onyx
in fact he does not nade the enemy at all
well what else are you supposed to heal your team with?
noble nexus
your gun probably
willow drum
well what else are you supposed to heal your team with?
primary fire
noble nexus
idk not an ana player
hot onyx
shooting your team mates is the dumbest thing i've ever heard
willow drum
shooting your team mates is the dumbest thing i've ever heard
thats what ana and bap players
have 2 do
plus myung loves healing his team with his e
brig and lucio will be j for him!
hot onyx
which vc
frosty patrol
owl
copper hill
i recommend OWICC for players who want to play for their nation
willow drum
?'
formal galleon
Are the only Homestand in Dallas again?
willow drum
Are the only Homestand in Dallas again?
No, Andy Miller tweeted that he is "Working on it" to a suggestion by Shock players to have a homestand
So as of now we have only had 1 homestand in Dallas
tidal marsh
no one would show up
O_O
formal galleon
So as of now we have only had 1 homestand in Dallas
👍
vague berry
What’s a homestand?
hot onyx
Teams playing in the cities of their namesake
Can’t wait for Fusion and Valiant homestands
frosty patrol
Yes
willow drum
Teams playing in the cities of their namesake
so then
the houston one wasnt a homestand
cause they didnt play in houston
frosty patrol
it was a "homestand"
it was a neutral site in-person event
it's like how the super bowl isn't a home game for either team really
willow drum
yes sure
vagrant jacinth
https://twitter.com/BadPachimari/status/1526979059187580928
Never misses
tidal marsh
Still angery over the cancelled ones
i had tickets to the wembley one
then covid hit 🤣
hot onyx
Some guy in the Fusion Discord said Belosrea is not bad
How can one man hold this much copium in one vessel without overdosing?
next mesa
He's not bad
hot onyx
He's not bad
Bottom 5 is pretty bad imo
next mesa
He just needs to work on his mechanics, positioning, hero pool, shotcalling, and ability management
hot onyx
Whereas Sado only needs to work on his shotcalling
next mesa
sado is rumored to be retired
hot onyx
wait what
vagrant jacinth
i had tickets to the wembley one
I had them for the nec, like 20-30 mins from me
hot onyx
Tell me you’re baiting
vagrant jacinth
How can one man hold this much copium in one vessel without overdosing?
He's a fusion fan
hot onyx
He's a fusion fan
The most copium I ever held was predicting them going on a big playoff run last season and finishing 3rd
Or winning grand finals in 2020 after a loser bracket run
vagrant jacinth
That is copium
hot onyx
It is
But it was also very plausible since the meta was open
Or at least I thought it was
next mesa
Tell me you’re baiting
im not
hot onyx
I thought with double sniper dive, reaper sombra dive, double bubble all being viable I saw a possibility that Fusion were talented enough to make it work
In 2020 at the time you’re choosing between three superteams and the Seoul Dynasty to win the grand finals
willow drum
philly wasn't a super team in 2020
i think they were
willow drum
super team as in they had like top 5 players
all roles
i dont think u can deny that
earnest leaf
their highlights were coming second twice in finals and beating shock in regular season once 3-0
their support line was probably the best part
fury was pretty good, but still outclassed by choi/void/hanbin, sado was good but kinda carried
Carpe/heesu were good, but never good enough to beat out their competition
hot onyx
a super team wins something
That is horrible logic
Just because a team actively chokes that makes them bad?
Fusion had all players top 5 minimum in all roles and solid backups with Boombox and Poko
hot onyx
Multiple players to cover all roles in a perfect rotation that covered all bases
earnest leaf
Until they faced actual competition, where they crumbled
hot onyx
Until they faced actual competition, where they crumbled
3-4 vs Eternal and 2-4 vs Shock
I would hardly call that crumbling
earnest leaf
Still failed to win anything
frosty patrol
ok guys
earnest leaf
There have been 2 super teams in owl history
Shock and shanghai
Who both displayed absolute dominance in most regards
shut bobcat
There have been 2 super teams in owl history
Early season 4 Dallas
earnest leaf
Philly's only dominance was beating up an easy NA region for the season
hot onyx
There have been 2 super teams in owl history
2020 Fusion and 2018 NYXL disagree
willow drum
There have been 2 super teams in owl history
s2 titans doko??
frosty patrol
not top 5
hot onyx
Philly's only dominance was beating up an easy NA region for the season
Superteam doesn’t have to be dominance all around, they had top tier players covering every basis possible
earnest leaf
I just don't care to give the title of superteam to a team that failed to win any title
shut bobcat
Who’s that
hot onyx
Their bench was more talented than half the league
plush grail
if you are able
sans is disabled
hot onyx
I just don't care to give the title of superteam to a team that failed to win an...
Then your logic is flawed
earnest leaf
No you're just a coping philly fan
earnest leaf
"dw guys we were a super team, we bullied and easy ass region and lost everytime we faced good teams"
plush grail
sans nan got me acting up
willow drum
???
willow drum
how was NA ez wtf
earnest leaf
in s3 Na was not that great
cedar oasis
guxue washed
frosty patrol
spark like 8th
earnest leaf
frosty patrol
chengdu 9-10
earnest leaf
those were the standings
tidal marsh
I had them for the nec, like 20-30 mins from me
was so annoyed when they got cancelled
frosty patrol
spitfire 9-10
next mesa
Shock and shanghai
agree
lol there were like 3 g ood teams in NA
fusion shock
and then the third one rotated
shut bobcat
Philadelphia shock and company
earnest leaf
pretty much
paris took a series off of philly and shock, florida never beat either I think
wait florida beat philly once
in may melee I think
frosty patrol
and then the third one rotated
it was an amazing rotating cast
you had what
mayhem eternal justice
earnest leaf
justice was shit 90% of that season
frosty patrol
justice being bottom 2 the whole year
then being the last rotating 3rd place out of nowhere
justice the last 2 years finished 6th and 8th overall copium
next mesa
wait florida beat philly once
Yes
Superteam needs a ring
Btw
The 2016 golden State warriors
Were not a super team
Despite having the greatest NBA record of all time
next mesa
They're not
They just played
Almost perfect basketball
Imo my definition of superteam you need enough star power
frosty patrol
2014 spurs were a perfect example of the nohill effect
good not top 3 roster
greg popovich
dominate the whole year
nohill’s valiant be like
@next mesa
frosty patrol
levy
do you know the valiant’s tank plan this year
it’s something I only have faith in a nohill team to do
hot onyx
I cannot believe I have found the dumbest OWL viewer and he’s not in esports-discussion
Belosrea cope
Best mt in apac apparently
worn falcon
Yes
frosty patrol
every dps + sasin is focusing on their own 1-2 tanks @next mesa
depending on what they need
worn falcon
Phllyy championship szn
frosty patrol
they rotate dps players on tank
worn falcon
Meanwhile valiant putting hitscans as tank
vagrant cargo
I cannot believe I have found the dumbest OWL viewer and he’s not in esports-dis...
He my guy
worn falcon
Nohill coaching
vagrant cargo
Just a lil confused
next mesa
do you know the valiant’s tank plan this year
yes i knkow
next mesa
valiant will be the 2014 spurs
they will embarass the miami heat (shanghai dragons) in the playoffs
worn falcon
Valiant still embarrass
When they sold their slot
Imagine having a roster then drop for Chinese whomegalul players
frosty patrol
Imagine having a roster then drop for Chinese whomegalul players
“whomegalul players”
oh yeah because nobody knew who showcheng krystal highbee or wya were
or silver3
or molanran
none were whomegaluls
or that obscure
obscure is bananawolf
or sixfeet
forest token
the only one I've heard of is krystal and it wasn't for his capabilities as a player
lel
hot onyx
obscure is bananawolf
Bananawolf is not obscure
He went one on one with ZEST in a tracer duel
And killed him
frosty patrol
the only one I've heard of is krystal and it wasn't for his capabilities as a pl...
not showcheng wya at least?
forest token
nop
frosty patrol
showcheng had won the most recent contenders season and wya was an owl veteran
you really don’t pay attention to anything
do you
forest token
ohhh he was one of the 2020 charge players, that explains why I didn't know him
and I don't pay that much attention to contenders
frosty patrol
Bananawolf is not obscure
you can agree sixfeet is though
still laughing at that one time an NA andy told me majed was on UP
hot onyx
Was he even on Uprising Academy?
cunning patrol
I cannot believe I have found the dumbest OWL viewer and he’s not in esports-dis...
lmfaoooo
hot onyx
lmfaoooo
What’s worse, underrating GA9A’s flexibility or saying Fate isn’t elite on orisa?
cunning patrol
prolly fate on orisa if it was still ow1
ga9a is genuinely great on monkey and a solid orisa/rein tho
fate has always been historically a great orisa so idk why he said that lol
in s3 he was top 3 in na wit sado and smurf
and whenever he played it in s4 he was great
cunning patrol
I would argue Benbest was a better orisa in season 3
im nuking you
hot onyx
But at the same time
Fate would’ve likely been better if he had Rush NineK coaching with Xzi Sp9rk1e Hanbin FDGod Fielder
hot onyx
It’s a relevant and plausible take
cunning patrol
2nd best offtank s3
He was
frosty patrol
based
cunning patrol
Void was #1
frosty patrol
yes
hot onyx
Void was #1
Mid off tank from the Gladiators
cunning patrol
I forgot fury
hot onyx
It did but they still won Countdown Cup
cunning patrol
Twilight moment
hot onyx
With Choi zarya Rascal genji Striker/Ans sombra and Viol2t brig
hot onyx
It was
Just feels weird to say
But despite a weird zarya, Choi dva sigma was world class
cunning patrol
Valiant
twilit oriole
Spark
hot onyx
You don’t believe Nohill can coach 3 players that haven’t played professionally for over 2 years, a washed up tracer one trick, and a flex support benched for Bebe MCD whom proved exactly why they were benched when fielded
cunning patrol
No I do not have that permission
cunning patrol
You don’t believe Nohill can coach 3 players that haven’t played professionally ...
Shockingly
I do not
But on paper rosters kind of wonky this year
cunning patrol
I like Lengsa
hot onyx
Spark
Say you don’t watch chinese contenders without saying you don’t watch chinese contenders
earnest leaf
choi's zarya wasn't even bad lmao
the one time is was meta shock still won that tourney
it's such a dogshit opinion people have
cunning patrol
Cope
earnest leaf
Cope, choi > your favorite OT
hot onyx
Cope, choi > your favorite OT
My favourite OT is Hanbin
earnest leaf
Choi>
cunning patrol
Mid…
hot onyx
That’s simply an incorrect statement
Not uncommon from a Shock fan when discussing their own players
cunning patrol
Lol imagine getting second…
earnest leaf
yea sans knows all about that
hot onyx
That’s generous
worn falcon
“whomegalul players”
when you get this
hot onyx
Last time Fusion came second this year was in the apac Countdown Cup knockouts
cunning patrol
Casual