esports-discussion

[cunning patrol]

a ms

[next mesa]

who is seicoe's best hero

[cunning patrol]

echo

[twin bloom]

Yaki tracer

And kellan

[next mesa]

yea thats what i thought

[twin bloom]

On his one play

[cunning patrol]

masaa is also on his main

so is skairipa imo...

[twin bloom]

Skairipa is on his worst FS

[twin bloom]

???

[cunning patrol]

disagree

[twin bloom]

He is way better on bap and zen

Imho

[cunning patrol]

imo if titans signed

stand1 (solid mid tier player)

instead of aztac who is boomed

[twin bloom]

They shoulda signed

Someone

[cunning patrol]

not enough

incentive

for a generational talent like someone

to sign with them

imo

[balmy wolf]

that reverse sweep was so painful

they were capable of at least putting up a better fight but i feel they just let themselves get rolled

[twin bloom]

Salary

Mayhem are a poverty franchise

Titans were not

And they went with solo tank

Very strange

[cunning patrol]

someone has 50% of the mayhems budget in his contract

[balmy wolf]

i believe it

[twin bloom]

Objectively false

Anotha player

On their team

Has that claim

[tropic herald]

Probably Hydron

[cunning patrol]

hydron

has 25%

imo

[willow drum]

thoughts on spectra?

[cunning patrol]

booster

which i respect

[next mesa]

lol

spectra

kind of mid

[cunning patrol]

yeah

but that is ok 👍

[lost thicket]

GNJ Brig

kekw

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[cunning patrol]

lol this mercy patch

is so braindead

taking the only mechanical skill out of the least mechanically demanding hero in the game

still doing the thing that killed their game in the first place

[willow tartan]

?

just false

[mortal cipher]

Honestly at least have a secondary

[cunning patrol]

its true

only part of mercy that takes skill is her movement and they just made a major part of her movement ez asf

[willow tartan]

so false you know nothing about mercy

[cunning patrol]

u are wrong

[mortal cipher]

Nah

[cunning patrol]

Ok

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/Coach_Spilo/status/1525643685920223233?t=5AH-_k9RcRTHv_Y6Lnr2sw&s=19

Spilo (@Coach_Spilo)

bit of a PSA to some of the OWL fans- crap happens. What looks like a completely braindead mistake from a pro player is usually the result of the razor thin margins of OWL level decision making, slight confusion/hesitation in communication, and just plain match pressure.

Twitter · May 15, 2022, 1:06 AM

Based spilo

[willow tartan]

???

what is that in reference for

isnt that just like every game lol

[long gust]

im lookin to throw down a lot of money on some owl matches tomorrow what r the picks

[willow tartan]

Houston over Florida
San Francisco over New York
Toronto over Paris

[long gust]

do we like shock and toronto to shut them out or win by 2 games or nah?

[gusty rampart]

I agree with Memeicus

Very obvious match turn outs tomorrow

[willow tartan]

Outlaws versus Mayhem will be close

other two games are stomps

[gusty rampart]

Houston 3-1
Shock 3-0
Toronto 3-1

[willow tartan]

I'd give Paris one map at most.

[gusty rampart]

Yeah only one map

[long gust]

been playing overwatch for years just started watching/betting on owl/ow esports

[gusty rampart]

How much money you lose on Fusion?

[willow tartan]

Fusion havent played yet

so they couldnt have lost money

[earnest leaf]

I got a hot take

mayhem beats houston tomorrow

[willow tartan]

i mean

i see that honestly

[long gust]

todays my first day and i bet nyxl to beat titans

[willow tartan]

but the reason i have faith in outlaws is because mayhem struggled against atlanta

[gusty rampart]

Outlaws is good wym

[willow tartan]

doom is outdated

found out

[gusty rampart]

Hmu if you need accurate preds

I'm a preds GOD

Perfectly predicted Glads v Fuel

[cunning patrol]

Outlaws should 3-1 mayhem

[gusty rampart]

^^^^

[willow tartan]

but like a close 3-1

[twin bloom]

They will

Someone

Is the best

Mt

Ever

[earnest leaf]

Unironically he's actually been doing pretty well

[twin bloom]

Someone is a top tier KR mt

Best MT KR has produced since fearless

[tropic herald]

You rate Someone more than Mag or Muze?

Kinda based but interesting

[twin bloom]

Someone is looking like a goat

With anamo majed

Think about it

For a sec

[tropic herald]

I am a fan

[twin bloom]

And he looked like a goat

[tropic herald]

Of some1 but I need to see more games

[twin bloom]

On the reindhardt

Champion

Unlike

Other KR

[tropic herald]

Tomorrow is gonna be interesting

[twin bloom]

Main tanks

[devout path]

still mad dallas won

why r florida and toronto and justice stocks so low

this feels like a crime

[novel owl]

called 3-2 on dallas vs glad

😭 glad not gonna win with pati

[next mesa]

Great point

Tbh

[jagged crater]

dallas sallad

[ebon aurora]

I'm tempted to pred Mayhem against Outlaws

[sullen berry]

Do it

Who has the better tanks honestly

I think the dps on outlaws does better on paper

But what is the synergy like for both teams 🤥 one of them hasn't got it down

[hot onyx]

Wrong, just so wrong

[willow tartan]

Yeah mate how's your Vancouver preds been doing?

[hot onyx]

Could be worse

Imagine if Masaa didn’t wake the winston

I would’ve had an extra point

[willow tartan]

[hot onyx]

I cannot even remember the context

[willow tartan]

week 2 power rankings baby

vancouver correct

[hot onyx]

They feel like a fever dream

[willow tartan]

NYXL to low

paris too high

[hot onyx]

???

[willow tartan]

what do you mean hm?

surprised that the person that plays league of legends and VALORANT is racist?

[hot onyx]

Oh yeah I forgot about that

I keep thinking she’s normal

[willow tartan]

hahahaha nobody is normal

except micheal. he watches contenders so he has to be normal.

[cedar oasis]

I knew Dallas would win

[willow tartan]

duh everyone knew

[cedar oasis]

No

The glads fans didnt

[willow tartan]

cause biased

[novel owl]

i expected glads to lose vs dallas and im a fan of glads

[vagrant jacinth]

I thought glads would have won

And it was looking like they were

What are the preds for mayhem v outlaws

I'm at outlaws 3-1 rn

[hot onyx]

i knew

had a small amount of hope when they were up 2-0 but it had to come crashing down because nobody is allowed happiness once they've touched Fusion

[cedar oasis]

Yea fusion suck

[north relic]

duo

[ebon aurora]

I'm going 3-1 Houston, 3-0 for Shock and Toronto

don't think any match today will be that close

[willow drum]

same

[ebon aurora]

Florida maybe but Houston should win fairly easily

how many points you currently on?

I'm 33

[north relic]

nyxl bong strikes again

[ebon aurora]

you think NY get a map?

I can't see it, NY dropped a map to titans for crying out loud

[north relic]

trust me

[ebon aurora]

if you get it right, fair play

[willow drum]

how are nyxl gonna get a map

riddle me that

[ebon aurora]

maybe Flora/Yaki just absolutely pop off but against Proper? I can't see it

Maybe Kellan outplays Coluge on Winston

but other than that I'm not sure how they could win a map

[willow drum]

they literally lilke

[north relic]

how did shock 3--2 london?

[willow drum]

had a tough match against titans

[north relic]

how did titans 3-0 boston>

[willow drum]

thats s4 tho???

but how are you going to sell me on nyxl taking a map

[north relic]

its the nyxl bong

[hot onyx]

Would’ve been plausible if they didn’t have a worse coaching staff than season 3 NYXL

Oh wait this is referring to last season

How silly of me

[willow drum]

ok

[frosty patrol]

titans last year had a bottom 2 roster and the same coaching

[hot onyx]

I’m convinced that roster was bad on a coaching issue

[frosty patrol]

disagree

changsik had retired for 2 years

frdwnr had no potential

dalton linkzr had potential to be mid-ish

fire bad

roolf bottom 1

[hot onyx]

I mean, when Fire played a minimal amount of brig on Reign he looked better than bottom 3

[frosty patrol]

with ark carcar halo paintbrush as other brigs in his region

[hot onyx]

I’m not listening to Carcar slander

[frosty patrol]

listen to carcar slander

carcar bottom 4 ms na 2020

[hot onyx]

Carcar would’ve been a top 10 ms if he was on Shock or Fusion

Titans coaching ruined him

[frosty patrol]

no

disagree

carcar mid at best

but only bottom 5 under titans coaching

also

mt in s3 was such an awful role

it's funny

you had

fusions roar hydration shredlock numlocked jmac ating

[vagrant jacinth]

@willow drum good name 👍

[hot onyx]

Don’t forget about when Karayan or whatever his name is benched Fate

[hot onyx]

Oh shit yeah I’ll duo

[north relic]

they should make it

if you reach 50 hp with monkey and are 5% away from primal you get it

[willow drum]

ty

[north relic]

get online

[hot onyx]

Apologises nan awaited

[pulsar sigil]

How dare she

[trim shadow]

Wait naga left paris?

So they are full investing into wub

[last nimbus]

apparently hes mid too

but naga was worse i guess

[lost thicket]

https://i.redd.it/vutoaecv4nz81.png

0-8

[next mesa]

lol

wub is lowkey worse

but idk scrims

[twin bloom]

They beat justice

And outlaws

With a good meta

Trust the process

[lost thicket]

MAYBE Justice

[twin bloom]

They need false on a champion he can play

And aspire shockwave double HS

Maybe even skairpa aztac double FS because masaa is washed

[lost thicket]

I swear the team would be better if they let the players play how they wanted to and just one tricked MirroR/Shockwave/Aspire/Massa/Skaripa

[twin bloom]

Agree

[lost thicket]

and just let them do their thing

[twin bloom]

They should be playing zarya/doom comps

Instead of forcing

Monkey

[lost thicket]

unless there's a meta change those 5 can do whats needed

[twin bloom]

When they don't have a monkey player

[lost thicket]

Skaripa plays the fs, Massa the lucio, MirroR the Doom and Zarya and Shockwave/Aspire play a bit of FDPS and HS

just let them do what they want

please god

[lost thicket]

correct

[tropic herald]

Wait

Who’s ready for all the double flex supp teams to suddenly look significantly stronger next stage bc Bap zen are strong

[willow drum]

they will win against sf shock

[lost thicket]

Shock and Houston gonna FUCK

[tropic herald]

https://tenor.com/view/ksi-floating-stairs-sidemen-gif-20767306

NYXL

[north relic]

doesnt mention nyxl

[tropic herald]

Surely if meta is Ball Tracer Widow Bap Zen NYXL can’t be bad

[twin bloom]

They are bottom 3 NA in a meta yaki gets to play tracer myunbong gets to play ana and kellan gets to play monkey

So yeah

Imo

[tropic herald]

imho Myunbong is not very good

[lost thicket]

I have lost faith in this org

[twin bloom]

Agree

[tropic herald]

But also NYXL macro is just a lil sussy

[lost thicket]

I miss good NYXL, good color and team

[tropic herald]

When I say a lil

[twin bloom]

Incredibly overhyped

[tropic herald]

I mean it’s non existent

[twin bloom]

Since s3

[lost thicket]

S3 was their last good year

[twin bloom]

He wasn't good

Just was the best player

On a shit team

He still wasn't top 5 fs

In NA

[north relic]

i also agree

[tropic herald]

The problem I have with NY is that GNJ isn’t the one on flex BUT on top of that they don’t make an effort to get an actual main support ????

[north relic]

i want gangnamjin since he is better

but myunbong lucio is probably so ass

[tropic herald]

And then overall the team doesn’t have the capability to play dive or with good tempo

Yaki will literally have half the enemy looking at him and the team will be twiddling their thumbs on cart

[north relic]

i feel like kellan sometimes just does whatever he wants without realizing what the rest of the team is doing

[next mesa]

myunbong has a better ana

imo

in an ana meta i think it's fine

[frosty patrol]

7th

so like

not great

[lost thicket]

still pretty good out of 20 fucking teams

not top tier

but good

[north relic]

i think gnj is the better ana mayb

[frosty patrol]

definitely

myunbong is not above mid on any hero

imo

[next mesa]

he's really not

bong is the better ana

[hot onyx]

casual GNJ underrating

[next mesa]

not really

ana is the only hero

[cunning patrol]

B0ng is hard washed

Sadly

[next mesa]

imo i agree but i still rate his ana better than gangnamjin

[cunning patrol]

New yorks problem is they look lost

They have good talent

[vagrant jacinth]

Agree

I'm expecting a 3-0 tonight

[novel owl]

theres am atch tonight ?

[lost thicket]

I wanna se Venom play

see*

a lot

[lost thicket]

Outlaws v Mayhem kinda equal, Shock gonna 3-0 NYXL and Toronto will probably win over Paris

[stuck radish]

if outlaws is boomed then mayhem 3-0

if outlaws isnt boomed then houston wins 3-2 i think

idk why i referred to them as outlaws and houston in the same sentence

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/ShanghaiDragons/status/1525865954051346433

Shanghai Dragons (@ShanghaiDragons)

@ParisEternal I can't wait for your gm/owner/management to read these replies and finally realize the error of their ways! Wait...what do you mean it's literally ONLY the underpaid smm who sees this stuff?

Twitter · May 15, 2022, 3:49 PM

Incredibly based SMM

[north relic]

@willow tartan wake up

its time for ow2 pubs

[worn falcon]

Incredible childish smm

[tawny osprey]

Im from the future, nyxl wins

just saying

[north relic]

true

[vagrant jacinth]

https://twitter.com/CDHuntersFacts/status/1525870251522547713?t=nVprPK19zpECkDVd-9N41Q&s=19

Chengdu Hunters Facts (@CDHuntersFacts)

Nohill:

I thought about team comps from 5 in the afternoon to 5 in the morning and came up with a comp

I can only say thanks to this hot pot I just had at night

https://t.co/CzP7G91a74

Twitter · May 15, 2022, 4:06 PM

Someone sedate this man

Get him some sleep

[willow drum]

nohillszn strong

[frosty patrol]

Main Support heads in Opener's collection:
CH0R0NG
Ojee

[next mesa]

海底撈

[frosty patrol]

List of Opener draws: ChiYo

[next mesa]

Fucking based

[frosty patrol]

List of Opener losses:

none

[balmy wolf]

Opener is trash

[hot onyx]

better than ChiYo

[next mesa]

Wrong

[hot onyx]

cope

[frosty patrol]

opener has never been diffed

[balmy wolf]

Chiyo hard diffed Opener

That’s why the Fuel were so dominant over the Justice

[frosty patrol]

ChiYo hard diffed Jecse

[balmy wolf]

The supports just diffed

[frosty patrol]

You do realize

Rush DDOS'd opener's computer

and had jecse play for him for most of the game

[hot onyx]

Sp9rk1e hard diffed Decay, Hanbin hard diffed Kalios, Opener performed consistently well

[frosty patrol]

and happy got matched by midison 😂

[balmy wolf]

What does Jecse have to do with how shit Opener is

Edison has won every h2h matchup so far

[frosty patrol]

and krillin had a rare mediocre game vs fielder

[balmy wolf]

Happy didn’t do shit

[frosty patrol]

opener did his best to carry justice on his back

[balmy wolf]

Justice are garbage

[hot onyx]

Mer1t would like a word

[balmy wolf]

Decay is their only good player

[frosty patrol]

opener will own ChiYo's head after their next meeting

[balmy wolf]

Chiyo is top 3

Opener is bottom 5

[frosty patrol]

chiyo is top 5

opener is top 1

[tropic herald]

REAL

[last nimbus]

are there games this evening

[tropic herald]

Yes

[balmy wolf]

are healers necessary in a team ?

[tropic herald]

Yes

[frosty patrol]

yes because role lock

[last nimbus]

Who against who

[tropic herald]

FLA HOU, SFS NYE, TOR PAR

[frosty patrol]

look up the schedule mate

not hard

[tropic herald]

Tempted to learn js so we can have a dynamic schedule command

[cedar oasis]

what do you do if you forget how to aim

[tropic herald]

Aim trainer

[balmy wolf]

i dashed off the map some S tier intelligence

[dreamy cave]

I have mayhem v outlaws 1-3

[twin bloom]

Opener is awful

He just looks good

Because

Justice are a winning team

As of RN

And MS is a lobby filler role

[twin bloom]

Happy is better

[earnest leaf]

happy gets a bit underrated because of 2021

shit meta for him the whole time

and his team forced him onto comps he wasn't comfortable filling the roles of

[twin bloom]

Happy is an S tier HS

And always has been

It is cringe how bad charge were with happy nero shu

Rio chara hotba were major equalizers

Sad

[cedar oasis]

lmao

happy is not s tier

[twin bloom]

He is

I don't wanna listen to the same dipshit

Who put NY over ATL

In their power rankings

[cedar oasis]

you are a troll

its funny you try tho

fucking moron

[cunning patrol]

happy is a solid

mid A tier hs

[twin bloom]

My bad

You are smart

@cedar oasis

[cunning patrol]

Lol

[next mesa]

agree

[vagrant cargo]

The happy first half of the season effect

[mortal cipher]

Remember Boston v Houston experience

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah

[mortal cipher]

Not fun

[vagrant cargo]

Happy always starts off super hot

And then falls off later

Also opener fuckint sucks

[lost thicket]

how long till Viol2t has to do the MMS

[lost thicket]

he was probably the best part of outlaws

throughout the season

[gloomy vector]

Outlaws 3-1 Shock 3-0 Defiant 3-1

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[gloomy vector]

at the same time i could see today actually be a 3-0 day ngl

[balmy wolf]

Opener fucking sucks

NTB is right about Happy

Starts off flashy then he’s mid as fuck

[lost thicket]

I think at 26 it is MANDATORY Mandatory since you need to do 2 years

[mortal cipher]

Happy is consistent first two tournaments

[lost thicket]

he is 22

[stuck radish]

its gonna be like last season

[lost thicket]

so 4 years copium

[stuck radish]

houston is mid except when its week 1 and when theyre against shock

[mortal cipher]

We’ll see

They were good first two tournaments but didn’t make playoffs due to Washington

[north relic]

who is slacking

[cunning patrol]

Yeah

He does

Ms just irrelevant

[twilit oriole]

Besides ch0r0ng everyone else sucks

Like Chiyo isn’t that good

Bro was hyped asf coming into the league

And hasn’t shown anything impressive

[cunning patrol]

Chiyo is insane lol

[twilit oriole]

Not really

[cunning patrol]

He has been great

[twilit oriole]

He’s good but not insane

[cunning patrol]

3rd best ms behind fastro and ch0r0ng in na

[twilit oriole]

Yeah prolly bc there’s barley any good MS in NA

And some teams don’t even have any

[cunning patrol]

Wrong

[stuck radish]

cant wait to see nyxl be put in the dirt yet again

[cunning patrol]

Chiyo been great u are just r worded

[twilit oriole]

Wow

Mods

Do you see this

!

[mortal cipher]

Imagine if NYXL beat shock

[cunning patrol]

Rambunctious

Is the r word

[next mesa]

chiyo is

[twilit oriole]

No I know what you meant you naughty male

[solar trout]

I expect florida game to be closer 3-2

[next mesa]

awesp,e

awesome

[solar trout]

otherwise same

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[cunning patrol]

Stop accusing me of things

[twilit oriole]

Pokemanpat you seein this?

[cunning patrol]

N1

[solar trout]

no torb - good
no orisa - this is a crime

[mortal cipher]

Rip torn

Torb

[twilit oriole]

@cunning patrol I think alphatrion needs a ventilator

Poor Boston fans

[cunning patrol]

He’s the goat

[vagrant cargo]

My man

[vagrant cargo]

No opposite actually

[hot onyx]

should move away one their team becomes shit

i did the same thing

[vagrant cargo]

Lucio plays like the new dva

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/take-the-l-loser-dance-gif-15111363

[hot onyx]

and my mental health is wonderful as a result

[mortal cipher]

Kinda

[vagrant cargo]

U support ur dps and harass

That's why ch0r0ng, chiyo, faith, fastro etc are so good

And why lastro is dogshit

[twilit oriole]

Lastro is ass

[next mesa]

thank u

[cunning patrol]

Faith goat

[next mesa]

for saying lastro is dogshit

[cunning patrol]

I agree

[next mesa]

sheesh

[hot onyx]

take faith out of that sentance right now

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[twilit oriole]

Landon>>>faith

[mortal cipher]

Clearly

[vagrant cargo]

Faith unironicaly is the best Boston player

[mortal cipher]

Nah

[next mesa]

doesnt matter anyways, vindaim clears 🥱 🥱

[cunning patrol]

Faith is insane lol

[hot onyx]

nah that goes to one of the tanks

[cunning patrol]

Dude does everything

[twilit oriole]

Sir with all due respect being the best player on Boston is not hard

[hot onyx]

Faith bottom 5

[stuck radish]

Striker

[hot onyx]

only good during a main support drought

[twilit oriole]

He’s fallen off

[cunning patrol]

No he isn’t

[vagrant cargo]

That's bs

[cunning patrol]

U literally think Masaa

[twilit oriole]

2nd retirement is coming soon

[cunning patrol]

Is better than him

[vagrant cargo]

Faith has great mechanics and amazing gamesense

[cunning patrol]

When he hard gapped him

[vagrant cargo]

And a super good heropool

[stuck radish]

hes never on tracer

[hot onyx]

literal team difference

[twilit oriole]

Which is why he has fallen off

[cunning patrol]

What

[vagrant cargo]

Striker got diffed by SPARKR LMAOO

[hot onyx]

try playing under Flubby coaching

[mortal cipher]

It’s kinda hard to look good when everyone else is crap it’s not 2018 where you can carry yer team to victory alone

[vagrant cargo]

I don't wanna hear it

[cunning patrol]

Ur excuses

[twilit oriole]

Bro that’s what I’m saying😭‼️

[stuck radish]

shock coaches wouldve let striker play tracer imo

[cunning patrol]

Literally apply to

Faith

Better lol

[twilit oriole]

How tf are you gonna let sparkr diff you

[vagrant cargo]

U think Boston coaches haven't tried it

Lol

[hot onyx]

Faith has good beat timings and thats about it

[brave zenith]

lmfao

[cunning patrol]

No he doesn’t

[vagrant cargo]

Just not true

[hot onyx]

off lucio he's not great

[cunning patrol]

His peel is great

[vagrant cargo]

Faith has 0 downside

[cunning patrol]

Never dies first

[twin bloom]

Sparkr is a B tier HS IMHO

[vagrant cargo]

His best hero is literally BRIG

[cunning patrol]

???) faiths brig is insane

Yeah what

[mortal cipher]

Strikers soldier might not be as great as sparkr’s

[hot onyx]

ok what main supports are worse than faith?

[twin bloom]

Masaa

He sucks

[mortal cipher]

Nah

[twin bloom]

Holding titans back

Alongise

[hot onyx]

for now that is correct

[twin bloom]

False monkay

[twin bloom]

It will still

Be correct

By the end of the season

[mortal cipher]

Maybe

[cunning patrol]

only debatable are nisha and vindaim

imo

anyone who thinks

unique is good

[vagrant cargo]

in NA? viol2t, masaa, opener, admiral, dridro, lastro, gangnamjin, anamo

[cunning patrol]

i am nuking

[hot onyx]

Unique isn't great but he's better than Masaa Dridro Admiral

[twin bloom]

Put masaa in F @cunning patrol

[cunning patrol]

ok

i will

[twilit oriole]

Who’s the guy in the r word hat

[cunning patrol]

admiral

but its not him

[cunning patrol]

dridro has been great

imo

not the issue on paris

at all

[hot onyx]

also FiXa is horrible pickup but he is not bottom 2

[cunning patrol]

He is

[hot onyx]

never said Dridro was a problem, he's the best out of the 3 i named

[vagrant cargo]

In apac: FiXa, Unique, Vindaim, lengsa and superrich

[twilit oriole]

He’s a ROTY candidate

[vagrant cargo]

Also

Only one worse there is masaa

[cunning patrol]

Faith is insane he has never ONCE

Misplayed this season

Imo

[vagrant cargo]

Unique was dogshit when he had to play aggro

He's the definition of exist and get carried

[twilit oriole]

Ch0r0ng is the goat that every MS should look up to

[hot onyx]

just because FiXa is worst in apac doesn't make him worse than Faith Masaa or Admiral

[vagrant cargo]

And that's shit for OW2

[cunning patrol]

It does

Faith is SO much better at everything

Lol

[vagrant cargo]

Fixa is easily worse than faith and admiral

[cunning patrol]

U literally haven’t provided an argument for faith being bad

[vagrant cargo]

Admiral is good

[hot onyx]

NTB didn't you say FiXa was bottom 7 one time?

[vagrant cargo]

He's also on his worst MS rn and still looking solid

[vagrant cargo]

Yes

[twin bloom]

London got lucky masaa chose to go to titans

Ended up getting

The better

[vagrant cargo]

Unironicaly yes

[twin bloom]

Player

[mortal cipher]

Why go to titans after getting second place in the playoffs

[cunning patrol]

Salary

[twin bloom]

No one else wanted him

Other than

Shit teams

[static pond]

Probably

[twin bloom]

Like london

[cunning patrol]

Anyways faith is insane and has shown great fs play for his class

[twin bloom]

And titans

[mortal cipher]

Was titans the only one that offered

[twin bloom]

Had good salary

[twin bloom]

No london

Did

[cunning patrol]

Great Lucio play, his brig is top 5 area and his mercy is great

[twin bloom]

But titans have good salary

[twilit oriole]

@vagrant cargo do you think ASJ had potential

[earnest leaf]

speaking of titans

they are fucked

[mortal cipher]

Was titans the better money

[earnest leaf]

schedule wise

[twin bloom]

Yeah

[vagrant cargo]

To be mid

[twin bloom]

They will beat houston

Trust the process

[hot onyx]

its almost like your baiting in a serious fashion

[vagrant cargo]

He's not

I unironicaly agree

[mortal cipher]

Makes sense but was reign not enough

[hot onyx]

Faith brig top 5?

[twin bloom]

Reign upgraded

[vagrant cargo]

Close to

[static pond]

I agree

[cunning patrol]

His brig is wit

[mortal cipher]

Tru reign is better

[cunning patrol]

Ljg skewed chorong

[hot onyx]

.

[cunning patrol]

Like a little worst

Than them

[next mesa]

vindaim is

[cunning patrol]

That’s such a shut argument

[next mesa]

#4

no bias

[cunning patrol]

Vindaim yeah

[static pond]

It easier for a bad player to look good on a very good team imo

[vagrant cargo]

Literally gave u a list

[cunning patrol]

He’s better than chiyo at brig

[mortal cipher]

Wot if went to Houston along with the other ex reign players

[vagrant cargo]

Of who is worse

This season

[next mesa]

agree

[vagrant cargo]

And it was around 13

Players

[next mesa]

sans

your brain continues to amaze me

[hot onyx]

i did not see the list because i forgot my glasses

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[cunning patrol]

Idk how Masaa can get hard gapped by every ms he plays

[vagrant cargo]

I'd only take LJG Ch0r0ng Fastro over him guaranteed as of now

[static pond]

Maybe he get carried but he might mess up again and cause some maps

[cunning patrol]

And still get praised

lol

[vagrant cargo]

Chiyo ojee are more likely to be better as the season progresses

[static pond]

People still praise messa?

[twin bloom]

Yeah

[vagrant cargo]

But I'm not confident enough to say they are definitely better than faith rn

[twin bloom]

Even tho skairipa is outperforming

Masaa

[mortal cipher]

I mean still a better team around him to help than going to the worst where there’s only one or two other decent players

[twin bloom]

Every game

[earnest leaf]

Danteh starting again on tank

[twin bloom]

Gg

[static pond]

He woke up monkey and had late beats I don't think your team can help with that lmao

[twin bloom]

They should try

Piggy

Zarya

Imo

[mortal cipher]

Tru good point

[cunning patrol]

He ajaxed too

[hot onyx]

I’m more than confident

[static pond]

The only problem I could see is that he didn't know the monkey was gonna get put to sleep so maybe a miscommunication

[cunning patrol]

I mean

You haven’t provided and argument

[static pond]

Hard to say

[cunning patrol]

Lol

[mortal cipher]

That’s wot I’m seeing watching titans it looks like a lot of miscommunication

[hot onyx]

My argument is from what I’ve seen he’s main support Myunbong

[twin bloom]

Myunbong is a bottom tier FS

While faith

Is not

[hot onyx]

Rated high for being the best player on a bad team

[twin bloom]

He is one of the better

Ms's in overleague

[hot onyx]

I take Unique over Faith personally

[vagrant cargo]

Then idk what to tell u

[cunning patrol]

Why

Give me an argument

[vagrant cargo]

Unique is legit dogshit

[hot onyx]

Top tier analysts agree

[cunning patrol]

No

[vagrant cargo]

He plays passive like a bitch

[cunning patrol]

They don’t

Lol

[shut bobcat]

Who

Is casting

[static pond]

Ye that what I assumed he didn't know about the sleep but the beat was probably his fault imo

[vagrant cargo]

Top tier analysts said void is mediocre

[twin bloom]

Reinforce isn't a top tier analyst

[vagrant cargo]

Top tier analysts had mayhem and Paris bottom 5 pre S3 (unlike me)

[cunning patrol]

He’s C tier

[earnest leaf]

there is no top tier analysts for owl

[vagrant cargo]

Ye

[earnest leaf]

it's many monkeys throwing shit at the wall and hoping some prediction sticks

[twin bloom]

Custa is decent

[hot onyx]

Reinforce is an actual D tier analyst

[mortal cipher]

The late beat was definitely his fault just being too late

[twin bloom]

And so was jake

Rest are terrible

Imo

[hot onyx]

Custa AVRL are all my ears are open to

[solar trout]

this match should be fun

[twin bloom]

Avrl is a good caster

But he is not smart

Same with sideshow bren

Uber

[cunning patrol]

Agree

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[twin bloom]

Custa and jake are the only smart casters

[vagrant cargo]

AVRL said although good

So he's good

[mortal cipher]

Jake is a coach now v

[vagrant cargo]

But he's also a faith believer iirv

Iirc

[hot onyx]

That’s because it’s true?

[twin bloom]

He was a good caster

Tho

[hot onyx]

I’ll believe in Faith when I see it

[mortal cipher]

Tru was dogman a good one

[cunning patrol]

U are blind

If u can’t see it

Lol

[solar trout]

pog

[hot onyx]

I believed in the WGS core when they came to Boston

[cunning patrol]

Cuz he literally hard gapped

[solar trout]

outlaws shock defiant lets go

[hot onyx]

And they broke my heart

[cunning patrol]

Masaa and u still said

Masaa was better

[twin bloom]

Dogman tries to be stupid on purpose

[hot onyx]

🎣

[mortal cipher]

Yeah he’s a bit trolly

[twin bloom]

When he was in OWL he was praising cucumber in his streams

And says its BS he isn't in owl

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[twin bloom]

But when coluge finnaly got signed

[mortal cipher]

He also said Iris is nasty good

[twin bloom]

He said it was a bad pickup

Lmao

[twin bloom]

Thats a good take

[cunning patrol]

nah

u just dum

imo

[hot onyx]

You’re the one that fell for (what I thought was) obvious bait

[shut bobcat]

What do you guys predict the score will be for this

[mortal cipher]

He was saying from his experience when he was still on reign that he insanely better than him rightfully

[shut bobcat]

Goodbye

Off to the kr stream

[mortal cipher]

3-1

[cunning patrol]

Cannot tell with u

[shut bobcat]

I think it’s gonna be 5 maps

[solar trout]

outlaws 3-2
shock 3-0
defiant 3-1
First match is a real toss-up

[mortal cipher]

Possibly

[worthy lynx]

Pls houston

[mortal cipher]

3-1 Houston
3-nil Shock
3-2 Toronto

[hot onyx]

And I with you, sometimes you make smart takes about MN3 and Spark but then bring it back with a headline of why Victoria isn’t bottom 5 hs

[fiery hill]

I can’t believe the stream chat is simping for the female caster

I mean

She’s Canadian

[mortal cipher]

They always Simp for the female

[hot onyx]

Dear god

[fiery hill]

🤢

[hot onyx]

Bagged milk Moment

[fiery hill]

Personally I’d rather simp for the British guy

[hot onyx]

sumo

[cunning patrol]

I make smart takes about everything

[next mesa]

avrl is a smart profits enjoyer

[fiery hill]

I would rather sumo for him as well

[cunning patrol]

Everyone knows

[mortal cipher]

They always Simp for the female announcers/ Casters

[shut bobcat]

Classic yt chat unfortunately

[fiery hill]

Maybe she’s pretty

But her face is on the screen for 20 seconds lol

[mortal cipher]

Yeah nothing new rlly

[stuck radish]

Dantank

[mortal cipher]

Tankeh

[fiery hill]

I do like the two casters though

They were very cringey in their first matches
They still say cringey stuff a bit now and again, but it’s mostly good quality and fun

[shut bobcat]

Has Danteh played dps yet

[stuck radish]

nope

[mortal cipher]

Yeah they Reyna just trying to make entertainment and fun

[static pond]

Nope

[solar trout]

full cap vs titans isn't an achievement

[static pond]

Don't think you need Dante in with pelican

[brave zenith]

true

[mortal cipher]

That’s the titans

[static pond]

Besides tank

[brave zenith]

merit and pelican r a good duo dps

tbh

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[worthy lynx]

What a time to be rooting for both teams

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[next mesa]

nice isolation

by mayhem

to go to that room and kill iris

[shut bobcat]

Tankfist went crazy

[stuck radish]

danteh tearing it up in that room

[mortal cipher]

That was nice

[next mesa]

he should not have ulted

imo

i understand the thought process but

you lost your ana you lost

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[earnest leaf]

I don't like the sombra

[gloomy vector]

yeah they probablly could kill the doom anyways

[solar trout]

ana is so crucial

[static pond]

Is doom still counter by Sombra?

On ow2

[earnest leaf]

tracer or genji, even reaper would be a better pick imo

[mortal cipher]

The sombra doesn’t seem to be working

[next mesa]

not genji

against echo

not reaper*

[solar trout]

it's good!

pelican

[next mesa]

imo its fine

[brave zenith]

how did

[mortal cipher]

Peli wot the

[next mesa]

if checkmate can be half of lip

[brave zenith]

outlaws get that

[next mesa]

we'll have to see

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[idle gorge]

merit throw

[mortal cipher]

It was a good idea but did t work out

[idle gorge]

nah he was alone behind right?

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[static pond]

Ya

[idle gorge]

i also think colloseo is way to small

[mortal cipher]

It was a good thought to flank but it didn’t work out

[static pond]

That was a bad ult position from doom

[vagrant jacinth]

Hmm

[static pond]

He should have just went back to his team with his ult imo

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[worthy lynx]

Yall think houston wins this round?

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[vagrant jacinth]

Yea

[mortal cipher]

Probably

[shut bobcat]

Probably

[solar trout]

Pelican love

[worthy lynx]

Yeah me too

[vagrant jacinth]

Most likely they will ye

[shut bobcat]

They look better

[balmy wolf]

pelican is disgusting on echo man

[earnest leaf]

god pelican echo is op

[mortal cipher]

Fr

[idle gorge]

pelican is a goat man

[shut bobcat]

Plus better comp

[mortal cipher]

Pelis echo is nasty

[vagrant jacinth]

Ikr

Really is

[mortal cipher]

Top 3 echo

[vagrant jacinth]

Someone looks pretty darn good too

[earnest leaf]

I think

[static pond]

What was hydron doing lmao?

[earnest leaf]

pelican top 1 echo

[mortal cipher]

He was one of the best echo last year

[idle gorge]

florida team looking quite decent

[mortal cipher]

Tru

Sleep Oof

[idle gorge]

i dont care how long ill sleep, i want to watch toronto tonight, but its at 12am for me sadge

[solar trout]

houston winning push?
Today's a good day

[brave zenith]

THAT IRIS SLEEP

[shut bobcat]

Sombra

[mortal cipher]

Let’s go

[vagrant jacinth]

Ooof

[worthy lynx]

Huuuuggee sleep

[mortal cipher]

That sleep was nasty

[idle gorge]

i made a mistake chosing toronto as my fav team when i started watching

[solar trout]

and here they were doubting lr1s

[idle gorge]

cause they always play late

[static pond]

I don't think Sombra the way

[vagrant jacinth]

@idle gorge I suffered through watching late games during s1

[mortal cipher]

Oof

It was not fun

[idle gorge]

do outlaws have a second tank besides danteh? piggy?

[lofty shale]

I wanna see that sleep

[vagrant jacinth]

Piggy

[mortal cipher]

Nei

[vagrant jacinth]

Yeah

[next mesa]

imo

[static pond]

Ye

[mortal cipher]

Piggy

[next mesa]

push is a bad gamemode

[earnest leaf]

better than 2cp

[mortal cipher]

Push or 2CP???

[next mesa]

i prefer 2cp

[idle gorge]

nah the toronto map is quite nice, but colloseo is wayyy too small

[static pond]

I agree with levi

[vagrant jacinth]

I didn't want to say it

[next mesa]

no kizzy

[mortal cipher]

I only like Hanamura and Temple

[vagrant jacinth]

They're both pain

[earnest leaf]

god I fucking LOVE watching teams take 6 minutes to get two ticks on second point of 2cp

[lofty shale]

Yea I think with colloseo the defender respawns are way too fast

[stuck radish]

imo the robot should move faster as the clock goes down

[earnest leaf]

dying the same ways through the same choke each time

so fucking GOOD

[fiery hill]

I don’t know why overtime runs out when it’s in Florida’s push zone

I feel like the other team should have to push the bot back to at least the centre

[mortal cipher]

At least lunar base isn’t there anymore

[lofty shale]

They get back before the team even gets to push like 5 meters

[static pond]

Ye

[mortal cipher]

Ikr

[idle gorge]

im acc impressed how toronto won against this outlaws team

[lofty shale]

I think they just need to adjust the respawns for push to be a good game mode

So that we actually get to other parts of the map

[static pond]

What if

They

Added

Like a hard point mode

[idle gorge]

i dont think thats something for ow tbh

[lofty shale]

Meh idk don’t wanna play cod

[static pond]

Be fun to watch two teams just kill each other lol

[idle gorge]

ow is really team based, while a gamemode like hardpoint is less of that

[brave zenith]

honestly there's not many gamemodes for a game like ow

idk what modes would work for it

other than the ones we alr have

[fiery hill]

Yeah, I prefer not many game modes

There’s an arcade mode for a reason

[idle gorge]

there probs is some good gamemode ideas for ow but probably not easy to think of

[fiery hill]

It’s just not very competitive to have a sandbox of random gimmicks for gamemodes

[static pond]

There rank

[lofty shale]

Maybe hardpoint would be cool though but it’d probably just be koth tbh

[static pond]

For a reason lol

[idle gorge]

piggy playing, thats his first time right

[fiery hill]

And gamemodes have to take into account how they’re affected by the meta and Vice Versa

[brave zenith]

route 66 🙏

[static pond]

Wait is that piggy

[idle gorge]

ye

[static pond]

???

[mortal cipher]

Yee

[brave zenith]

nah it's his 3rd? i think

[static pond]

He alive?!?!

[idle gorge]

who you reckon piggy is playing, not zarya right

[solar trout]

piggy zarya

[idle gorge]

id keep danteh in if for zarya probs

[lofty shale]

God I love how many great rookies there are

[solar trout]

widow? You mean hanzo

[lofty shale]

Merit, someone, proper, kilo

So many more as well

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[lofty shale]

So refreshing seeing new players

[balmy wolf]

goofy ahh merit

[brave zenith]

goofy silly merit

[mortal cipher]

Goofy silly Mer1t

[lofty shale]

It’s also nice seeing hadi be a solid player unlike last year

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

In his defense he was playing on ping

So

[lofty shale]

Hopefully he keeps it up

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[lofty shale]

Muze has also been really fun to watch

[mortal cipher]

Yeah tru

[brave zenith]

outlaws looking so good rn

[mortal cipher]

That primal force out

[lofty shale]

Ir1s has been a monster holy shit

[mortal cipher]

Honestly

[sullen berry]

Tac visor slept and blade nullified

[mortal cipher]

Yeah that was nasty

[sullen berry]

This is more entertaining than shock outlaws my a mile

[brave zenith]

piggy still got 2

damn

[lofty shale]

Man he wanted to grav so bad lol

[solar trout]

This game is ObsBastion's now

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[fiery hill]

When we seeing Bastion with a hat?

[solar trout]

Where's ObsOrisa and ObsTorb
Gotta get playtime in there somehow

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[worthy lynx]

That was a good round

[sullen berry]

Obsbrigitte always on time

[solar trout]

get spawn camped