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I'd rather face Kevster than Proper on Tracer
even if both are insane
Fuel might just stick with the Zarya stuff tbh
Sparkle tracer is good
compared to Kev/Proper though?
Good enough to not get diffed by them
Shock looks like the can be undefeated in stage 1
NYXL and titans
the hardest match seems to be Glads
which glads might win cause reiner
but crusty/ninek coaching can help probably
Shock lose because shu decides to play good insted of feeding
honestly seeing the titans vs mayhem highlights
it's just straight up a tank diff
I guess tank diffs are an even bigger thing now in ow2
I said this yesterday, is False the worst player in OWL currently
No
False is a good off tank
And that game was a team fiff
even on Dva he looked BAD yesterday
But is forced in a position to play rein and winston
like was straight up feeding
False is shit like all the titans players
ok if not False, who would you say
It's a team diff
the titans players are not bad
There’s a hard argument for Seicoe and Skairipa
They are
Masaa, Aspire, Shockwave is a good core
But they were benched last game
No it's not
Shitwave was good 2 years ago
On philly he was bad
Massa fed in the mayhem match
He was good on Fusion before playoffs
Particularly popped off in playins
But then he got forced playtime vs Glads
surely Titans could go for someone like Helv/GiG/SZNS to fill out MT?
they need one for sure
Lullsish is a good option
idk who else in EU/NA contenders they could look at but just thinking of the top teams those seem reasonable options
Lullsish isn't a bad shout
even though he didn't play he at least has experience of the league environment
that's why I thought someone like GiG - he played well on that Valiant roster
What happened between justice and reign
why did that turn out the way it did
couldnt watch the match
false is definitely not the worst player owl
it's likely haker
LHCloudy would be a great pickup
of the players we've seen
who is 2.5 years retired
I thought about Cloudy but has he even been on a team recently
I know a guy that would disagree with that statement
okay yeah I can see that
dude I swear if Decay is on his game he's the best dps in the game
and honestly, Opener has been really good
which I didn't expect at all
he diffed Ojee yesterday
hard
me
but
I must currently defend titans
He played for Odyssey in 2021 and beat AT
Prediction for the glads vs the fuel?
reign should've won eichenwalde
I should probably change my pred for glads vs fuel
what do you have currently
3-2 glads
what are you thinking now?
im thinking that it's going to take glads a little longer to get their act together with patiphan and ans integration
I was torn between 3-1 and 3-2 Fuel
and that Fuel is back in business after the Justice match
I have 3-1 fuel
but Fuel looked so good against Justice
I expect them to keep it going
low
I do think Kevster might just carry Glads to a map win though
mine isn't that high but i'd rather risk them than Edison Guriyo
Edison looked good against Justice
honestly I think Fuel lost against Outlaws mainly due to the crowd
they clearly felt nerves
and the Doom tank caught them off guard
and even then, they had some good moments even in a 3-0
tldr: shock number 1 in na
true take
until proven otherwise, yes
tldr: shock number 1 in na until Gladiators manage to get their act together with Paitphan and ans
if Fuel beat Glads, I think they're number 2 atm
i think as of now fuel are #2
glads just doesn't look too good
there's no bottom feeders there
who else do Fuel play this tournament?
they don't play Shock I know that much
do they play Reign?
Gladiators Defiant Paris Boston
is their schedule for the kickoff clash
i think they'll at least be 4-2 going into the tournament stage
would be surprised if shock arent 1st seed
hmm ok, of those (assuming they beat Glads), only Defiant seem a real threat
only way glads are 1st seed is if they can win against both shock and dallas @frosty patrol
so Fuel could go 4-2/5-1
1 of the two
is what they have to do for a shot
if they beat fuel and not shock it's up to map diff and shock losing to defiant though
which definitely favors shock
shock don't vs defiant
though
lmao
shock don't have any matches against defiant
this stage
titans, nyxl and glads
and also w-l takes priority over map diff
so if glads loses to shock then shock is just 1st seed
cause they're undefeated
ok yeah shock have a free 5-0
also
why are you a shock fan
i like proper
L human
Fare tbh
no
shock fans should be deprived of fundamental human rights
proper is not an L human
you are
no
better reasoning than "they won grandfinals twice aand i like two champ timer"
you're literally a justice fan
or being a super fan
hunters fan*
both
only relevancy justice has is 2020 playoffs
when they almost beat shock
in hog meta
copium i think
mathematics i think
better than Fusion being relevant for their entire franchise carer in the worst way possible
2019 stage 4 they rolled everyone basically
low bar
2020 playoffs they were 3rd NA
2021 may melee they rolled fuel and were the 1st seed
before getting rolled by Reign
Better than Defiant never being relevant ever
2021 summer showdown they were good
not rolled
closest series ever
2-1 reign
u can make an argument for other 3 being relevant but
2021 summer showdown i dont remember them at all
they pushed dallas to the brink in the knockouts?
literally 1 fight away from summer showdown playoffs?
i dont remember that hang on
i wouldn't call that relevant
i gotta go do some rewatching
cause i barely remember
need my does of fury copium
"it's not relevant to push the number 2 team in OWL to a map 5 in an elimination match"
clearly they were not number 2 in the summer showdown
map 5 wasn't too close but
everything else was basically
when were shock relevant this year
in s4
? why would I know about s4 shock
i was a chengdu fan
and then proper came in
you watched owl
in s4 yes
didn't matter that you weren't a shock fan
you should be able to tell me when they were relevant
but why are you raising this argument
literally has no point for or against justice being relevant
Shock prob were relevant for playoffs
mostly
they got 4th there
were shock relevant when they pushed dallas to a map 5 in countdown cup knockouts
countdown cup knockouts was notable
no because shock 3-0ed dallas
so that gave them relevancy
💀
were shock relevant for taking glads to a map 5
because justice did the same thing but reverse in summer showdown knockouts
not really imo
actually we might've played paris
yeah
you will probably tell me valiant had no relevance in s4
valiant london and titans had more relevancy than fucking toronto
they were relevant cause they were extremely bad
valiant defo had relevancy
so justice were relevant in all of s2 and s3
for being EXTREMELY bad then extremely good
justice were defo relevant in s3 playoffs
cause they were extremely bad
to extremely good
never denied that
and justice won matches in s2
valiant never did in s4
imo
valiant weren't relevant because of the 0-16
they were relevant because they rolled fusion
ehh
thats what i think personally
very based
Big pickup
wasn't that from yesterday?
I'm sure I saw that posted previously
or maybe it was just rumours from Halo
It was just a rumor
At this point Guangzhou could sign Jehong, Fissure, seominsoo, haksal, JJanu and Stitch
All of them would be leaked and GZ could just cancel the deal to really troll him
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Fury sees that Mag Assassin and Decay are dead and they're down 3 to 6 and he commits self destruct
why
aw hellll yeah
my Charge hopium stonks have increased drastically
I'll do the announcement
who could realistically pick up Apr1ta if not Charge
i was hoping more for Apr1ta to charge than farway
since he could me more useful
especially with the whole ChoiSehWan incident
maybe hangzhou
Charge saves a ton of money by keeping to their nutritious and very expensive Herbalife lifestyle
cracked
Apr1ta Shy Pineapple Alphayi*
I do doubt spark has more more to throw into this season
I know Pineapple is on the roster but let's be real he's not at the level of Shy/AlphaYi
Even likely that ager all he Contenders China VODs, and a number of other ways to prove his prowess in the past 2 years
Apr1ta would have to be someone they would like, he's become a known quantity
In fact there was a reddit post that reminded me of mike
don't forget architect for junk bastion
and reaper
Mer1t ANS and Kilo
Architect might not be the best bastion on his team anymore due to the rework
he is a top 3 junkrat though
relevant hero
hate to say it, but probably Kilo so far
kilo
but he does have the best team around him out of those 3 currently
not even close me thinks
Ans' solider is very uh interesting
to say the least
so for best HS prob between mer1t and kilo
but i'm more inclined for kilo cause kilo had better widow preformances
ANS needs to warm up against paris
and i'd say about equal on solider
imoimo
the copium is real
ANS is my favorite hs
no no they have a point
let me cope in peace
hehe ok
but seriously though I wanna see ANS as a starter or at least get more playtime to get comfortable
Actually based evidence of redditors following contenders China
I really wanna see S3 ANS again, so good
S3 ans was just a monster
not as much as me
Aye fr this is farway1987's gf https://twitter.com/CDHuntersFacts/status/1524851368183447555
we know
by this point
everyone knows farway is a player
God himself was using his body to land those shots
s3 ans was outclassed
God was amongst SF shock's 7th man in 2020
MY BOY IN THAT BROWN SUIT LOOKING FINE
baconjack was in the league
Dapper
5-0 Widowmaker duel
Can someone help me nitpick yesterday's games and tell me if the production ever slipped during matches?
Nothing I can recall
Yeah I would agree it's been a non issue today, so props considering vikkikitty's many connection issues last year that really set back her casting debut
ans had quite the showing on gibraltar tbh
dude looked clean
him and happy are the best widows atm
most other ppl that I've seen play widow have been kinda meh at them
aspire was kinda decent but yeah...
wonder if we get Vikki + Nekkra casting again at all this weekend, presumably Vikki filled in for Jaws?
shock go undefeated
Shock back in form
LLLLLLLL
WHY
W
DAMN
Fuck you sans
Holy shit
what a horrible org
no way they dropped Naga just because he did poorly against some of the better teams in the league
and picked up Wub who isn't even that much better
Holy shit
What the fuck Paris
Man fucked up opening week and paris took him to the guillotine
What are Paris doing
bro he went against proper like
cut naga some slack
ffs man
Aint no way I'm supporting paris after this
what a fucked up org
Wub time
Paris down to 1 fan now
Luigi
Actually true
it isnt necessarily that
I think it is
personally
Its defo a chance that paris had no choice
in the retirement of naga
but i'm not convinced
lmao wtf Naga got dropped after 1 week
yeah
Just to clarify, it was their decision, and they should do what they think is best for the team. Meanwhile I’ll be looking for a team who believes in me 😎 I wish them nothing but the best, I have some good friends on that team and I really hope the best for them.
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Meanwhile I’ll be looking for a team who believes in me 😎 I
holy shit...
naga based
Goddamn
Did you guys see this?
paris L
bogur was spectating owl scrims
along with custard
Still funny
Lol
They probably just drop Naga to save money apparently some contacts are weekly pay
and they replaced him with wub
who might not even be better
no matter how you look at it
is a p unlikeable decision
Ya maybe cheaper weekly pay
who knows
Sucks to be glister his value probably gonna go down due to being on Paris
Naga was already on min
Lmao
They signed a washed genji for genji to not even be the best anymore
Valiant are looking for a 6th dps 
Avalla is acc so shit at her job lmao
eat shit mike
Idk why ppl think she’s good
cuz she managed to put a pretty decent paris together last year
say what u want paris last year looked alright
they were 2-8 vs good teams
Didn’t trial ellivote or neptuno
And ppl praised her cuz she “scouted dridro and Vestola”
Like it wasn’t well known they were the best options lol
She just mismanaged naga so hard lmao
3-8 if you count sandbagging dallas fielding rapel as a "good team"
Fuck Paris
Kicks him cuz his genji isn’t good just for genji to not even be meta anymore
genji wont be meta anymore?
Idk if this was posted
https://twitter.com/NagaEz/status/1525469376643743744?t=PCS83mLm85f-haKC6feXDA&s=19
Just to clarify, it was their decision, and they should do what they think is best for the team. Meanwhile I’ll be looking for a team who believes in me 😎 I wish them nothing but the best, I have some good friends on that team and I really hope the best for them.
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2-8 if you count that
Yea lol
Gladiators and Justice don't count?
justice while they were titans level
glads is their only win againist a non shitter team imo
Justice with jerry
not even just with jerry
And all those wins they got
who cares lol Paris looked like an absolute shit team last year and did exceed expectations
againist paris justice looked horrible
Naga was their best player or 2nd best wit Kaan
nobody ever considered Paris to not be a dogshit team last year lol
I did
that's on you then
I considered them mid
dogshit NA was like
I considered them mid after seeing what they were able to pull off
Titans London Boston Mayhem
I had london spitfire expectations for them
Literally gifted wins
I do agree Naga and kaan were the stars last year
THEY SAW NAGA ON GENJI AND SAID FUCK THAT
And they were
Kaan being a solid ana and naga being above average dps
Kaan, Daan and Naga were good in 2021
justice were in their shitter stage
Like dridro and Vestola
gladiators count
Daan was shit
honestly all of them were good
yeah Daan was kinda meh
Vestola, dridro, Kaan, Daan and Naga
His only good quality is his igl
onigod was alright
not as good as I hoped cuz I'm an onigod fanboy
but not terrible
Onigod was good
onigod would've been top 4 in season 1
ok
probably lol
I mean back then linkzr was a big deal
Anyone from s4 would be #1 in s1
Lol
Literally u put im37 in s1 and they’re accusing him of witchcraft
decay would have been top 3 if be was in s1 and at his prime in a3
watching old game play feels so slow and sluggish
S1 players are shit compared to now
like compare a average cree S1 to S4
yeah honestly dps wise this is the most stacked season ever
S4 is practically super speed
Not even trolling lol
put roolf in s1
Just to clarify, it was their decision, and they should do what they think is best for the team. Meanwhile I’ll be looking for a team who believes in me 😎 I wish them nothing but the best, I have some good friends on that team and I really hope the best for them.
613
uhh....... idk about that...
THEY FUCKING DROPPED HIM LMAO
Average Master 6 Stack > London Spitfire S1
no
ok a bit of trolling
He’s right
but still
Imo
like the third time this tweet has been posted in 10 mins lol
put a 6 stack of like, 4.5k vs london s1
Just to clarify, it was their decision, and they should do what they think is best for the team. Meanwhile I’ll be looking for a team who believes in me 😎 I wish them nothing but the best, I have some good friends on that team and I really hope the best for them.
613
yeah that one
and I have more faith in the 6 stack
Just to clarify, it was their decision, and they should do what they think is best for the team. Meanwhile I’ll be looking for a team who believes in me 😎 I wish them nothing but the best, I have some good friends on that team and I really hope the best for them.
613
poor naga
istg these teMs
teams*
are abandoning their players
titans draft naga 😎
left and right
another dps wasted lets go
yeah
honestly
titans signibg naga
would be the best thing they could do
wait nvm
they just signed mirror lol
get rid of coaches first
those coaches so badddd
ikr
false just gets gapped so fucking bad
also last year Paris was on ping right?
I forgot about that
aspire looked great on toronto
but now that hes on titans hes not as good
he still looks good dude got plenty of picks yesterday against florida
false just gets gapped so hard
ohbfr
thats good
Onigod good or bad
florida makes playoffs?
mid no idea how he holds up with current owl standard
still has the best widow clip ever made
Pine on junkertown >
I mean Pine has the best widow clip in an official league
there's some youtube video of onigod getting a 4k ending with a 180 flick on a valkying mercy
never seen anything better
Bad
Just to clarify, it was their decision, and they should do what they think is best for the team. Meanwhile I’ll be looking for a team who believes in me 😎 I wish them nothing but the best, I have some good friends on that team and I really hope the best for them.
613
Why is it being reposted so much
Just to clarify, it was their decision, and they should do what they think is best for the team. Meanwhile I’ll be looking for a team who believes in me 😎 I wish them nothing but the best, I have some good friends on that team and I really hope the best for them.
613
what is?
what is
i havent seen that tweet yet
could you post the tweet you're referring to please
queue 3v3 elim with me
No
D:
Yeah sure
Naga to titans
Just to clarify, it was their decision, and they should do what they think is best for the team. Meanwhile I’ll be looking for a team who believes in me 😎 I wish them nothing but the best, I have some good friends on that team and I really hope the best for them.
983
link it
Clearly you haven’t seen the Jimmy on Dorado clip
link
They already have MirroR
wtf
Titans are too much of a poverty franchise to sign coaches that aren’t the worst in the league
Let alone a 5th dps
Insane
It’s starts at like :50 btw
If you are pc it might show the interaction heat map
But on mobile it doesn’t
dayummm
Avallah is a shit GM
Avalla let us down
bro if Onigod and Jimmy both played like that all the time
that would be just so fucking wildddd
didn't yeHHH drop mirroR right as the season was about to start
Lol avalla is a shit person too
She literally supports the new sk president
Actual fucking cringe behavior
crusty best coach (ignore ta1yo)
explain why bad
I am uninformed as to why SK president is bad
Explanation?
is it Philippines bad (Death squads and corruptions n shit) or just Donald Trump bad? (Mean tweets and controversy)
Not the greatest look but yeah :/
I feel like every coach has done something like that
like something bad
to players
Idk I’m just a. Mayhem simp rn
They played their offseason pretty wel
On how he's literally misogynistic
link pls wanna read
I'm sorry - I thought I could just ignore and move on but I fucking can't. This man is an absolute godDAMN travesty and the idea that "administration change" means anything good for this country is a fucking joke.
4313
1817
Gracia Jazzy
Oh yeah
No one ever deserves to "go fuck themselves" for their political views. If it's different from yours, you just accept and move on. Everyone is entitled to their views. If I was disappointed of the current government and vote for change as a wake up call to the ruling government,
168
Idk much about Korea politics but that was a nice read for context
It’s always these arguments that are weird to me, they always call human rights and other similar discussions politics which is just so odd to me
Yeah
Thanks lol
Then again single issue voters won’t change bc they care only about single thing
I was trying to find it
What can ya do
Politics is fucked, you guys know this probably shouldn’t have this conversation here I’ll stop myself
Paris suck tbh
I was gonna give my opinion on the Avallah stuff but I got bored halfway through typing it
less murder but more awful opinions HC
That's fine this covers it
Cha rue
Fucking hilarious
This is funny in a way that I think my humor is just fucked
It is a good meme
I remember all that
stolen post
I just want all the teams to be good
I like a lot of players
Why do teams have to lose 
Gawk gawk gawk
Totally my humour too
teams bad, overwatch league is now contenders level smh
The outluls strike again
Proper
1 rookie can't carry the whole team pls
Who
I think all the matches today have the potential to be really close
Rn I have boston uprising winning vs london spitfire, NYXL beating titans
Glads vs Fuel though...I had glads 3-2 fuel, but with how much I've been disappointed by houston and reign I may have to 3-2 fuel....
After all, Fuel were very good last season, and the meta should be in their favor. We could just consider the houston match a fluke due to nerves and such. Specially with how handedly they beat Justice, I think a fuel victory is pretty likely.
But titans NYXL uprising spitfire are all kinda in the same low tier rn, so they could really go either way as well...
It seems OW2 is just not as stable as OW1. You just don't really see teams holding their position this season. It is so volatile.
Well...except shock. Shock is just killing it.
Guess I need to take the One Piece approach to power scaling. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Anyone can beat anyone given the circumstances
feel like shock and dragons are gonna be exceptions
who?
shock as an exception?
they've played
0 teams with great rosters
we'll have to see if they roll glads first
Outlaws
you cannot reasonably tell me they don't have a great roaster
just kinda need to figure out the dantank
but Pelican/Mer1t Lastro/Iris are all great
No they aren't
You know who's mid
Justice
Ready for another year of falling short of expectations?
"shock beat outlaws so we should lump them in with dragons as unbeatable"
is lunacy
shock fans always overrate shock
I said great @vagrant jacinth
Fusion would have a great roster if they had a main tank
disagree
it'd be a good roster with a mt
Don't they have to flex support outlaw I mean
but not great
Two*
two flex supports, one tank and then danteh as the tankline, etc
too many holes for it to be great
yeah but shock has two flex supports, one tank and no danteh tank
Imo missing a main support Impacts quite a bit you can't just pick up Lucio and become astro
I feel like like violet practice a lot of main support during off season
the difference is
coluge has shown a pretty good monkey
and is flexible
and viol2t is an individually talented player
We even saw him play Lucio while finn was on zen during the shock vs O2 blast
Pkus violet is a smart player tbh
Plus*
once coluge main tank diffs someone more talented than Hadi or Daan i'll believe it
shock have a floor lucio
can play it and get the job done
in 2021 sure
which is more faith than I currently have in piggy or danteh on most mt heroes
Shock have holes that are covered by having Jesus on their roster IMO
truth
?
violet is a floor lucio
you could block violets name and put anamo insted and no one would find a difference
Truth
true
Viol1t is anamo level at best
Viol3t*
Viol4t
wrong
anamo this year is off the rails
leejaegon but untalented
He’s winning games + ratio
I have outlaws above mayhem but below the rest
Fusion support line is so underwhelming
If they still had alarm they could make second apac
Fixa doesn’t need to be good
fixa is bottom 5
If you have fucking alarm
Alarm is #1
Top 2 and he ain't 2
Would you say violet is a bottom ms
yes
I would rather take alarm fixa than violet finn tbh
whos the MS for boston
Anamo is good
Lol
Yea so like
Faith
Anamo is horrible
No it isn't
Faith
Is shock support line mid?
MS
Good player
Is a lobby filler role
MS not too impactful
Viol2t Lucio is
Alarm would carry them
no
JJoNak solos
According to uvalo reasoning shock support line js mid
It sorta is
A bad MS
uvalo reasoning is never solid
Can be carried
I would take Glads, Fuel, Outlaws, Dragons, and even Seoul over Shock atm
If the team is good enough
morons
But Shock just beat Outlaws lmao
And the goats at reign one bad game doesn't mean they are bad IMHO
Yeah?
?
That doesn’t mean their support line is better
Also shock backline>>hou backline
Oh yeah them too
Ojee UV good support line
I thought he meant overall team
Tbh
Ir1s and Lastro better
Support line i still take shock
Like fuel last year
If not better
Ir1s and Finn are about equal and Lastro Lucio better
Lol
Untrue
You're so dumb
Finn is better than iris
finn ana >iris ana
Finn is better but Ir1s isn't too far behind
Nah
Lastro is much better
Funnyasteo said so as well
Lastro is the best FS
MS
Lucio
Where
Lastro is the best FS Lucio
On avasts stream
GNJ and Viol2t are mid
real
Agree
????
The whole support line clears
leave worst tracer!!
Also currently the impact of lucio in these comps is pretty minimal
So comparing who is the better lucio is kinda meaningless
@frosty patrol imagine being a white name L
Oh fuck that’s happening today
Glads will take a map
3-2 glads
Glads will take ur mother
THIS IS NERFED TRACER, what on earth was proper doing to lobbies pre nerf?????
1112
Lmao
wow so cool
Just watch
Kr contenders
Lol
Proper is literally better than prime striker no kappa
i believe yes
also damn
naga didn't do the best in their matches
but dropping him altogether is an overreaction
Tbh I don’t think any team would drop a player after two matches
according to avrl it was from scrims also
Damn
they literally picked up wub like idk
but now what happens if wub doesn't do well
if glads coaches are smart
they will not run genji mirror
because they will get shit on
I think they would have
i am
proper heesang pineapple yznsa dps line
my dps is better
my tank line is the most stacked
Kellan isn't better than 800 period
hes so shit
lol
idk how he manages to still get praised
fr
god I love this meme
how do you think of QOQ
like what do you think of him
My favorite teams are Shock 2020, Atlanta 2021, NYXL 2020 (I miss S3 NYXL, so good) and 2021 Hunters
and Paris 2020
entertaining AND good
and Philly 2020
pretty much S3/4
most of the teams have great genjis
I’m really uncertain about glads vs fuel today
Jinmu, WhoRU, Sparkle, EQO
Fuel rolled Washington though
And they rolled Atlanta
So are fuel bad or were they unprepared against houston
UVALO: Tank:1. 800 2. Riven DPS: Heesang Kilo Zest Ado Support:1. Ojee 2. Ultraviolet 3. Yveltal LEVY:Tank:1. Clestyn 2. Someone DPS: 1.MN3 2. Alphayi 3. Seawave 4. Innovation Support:1. Haoyoqian 2. Irony 3. VindaimSANS: Tank:1. Lige 2. Kellan 3. Junbin DPS: Apr1ta Although Mer1t Suppo...
That is literally how you judge how good a team is though
No
no you don't
it is such a stupid
stupid
fucking way to judge them
Okay, then new york is the best team in the league 🙂
Because losing against other teams doesn’t mean you are bad
dullahan

