i am curious
#esports-discussion
next mesa
cunning patrol
IDK talent hard to judge
next mesa
agree
next mesa
diem has the smoothest aim
cunning patrol
Injuries and other stuff
next mesa
agree
tawdry hamlet
It depends on the csgo aimer tho I think
Because a lot of cs go pros use like super low sense but ones like tenz for example who use normal sense and are good at cs can transfer better
Overwatch just has way too much movement to be compared
tiny pollen
sayaplayer
willow tartan
Overwatch just has way too much movement to be compared
me when quake gaming
gusty rampart
San Francisco Shock are the only team to win twice
Chengdu and Philadelphia Fusion get non stop 2nd place in any important match
NYXL keeps getting worse every year for some reason
craggy turret
i am going to discuss overwatch e-sports here.
craggy turret
favourite team is morocco demons and my favourite player is super from the london spitfire
yes that is my fav's
craggy turret
Name your team and your favorite player
favourite team is morocco demons and my favourite player is super from the london spitfire
gusty rampart
Ok
craggy turret
are you space
gusty rampart
Yes
devout path
balmy wolf
sad
willow tartan
based
analog moth
Yo, are the Atlanta v New York and Boston v gladiators games from today worth watching?
balmy wolf
Wtf is that
balmy wolf
Yo, are the Atlanta v New York and Boston v gladiators games from today worth wa...
Atlanta v nxyl was a roll
Boston v glads was a bit closer
analog moth
Boston v glads was a bit closer
Okay. Thanks. I’ll probably try to watch the Boston one then
balmy wolf
Okay. Thanks. I’ll probably try to watch the Boston one then
Watch the highlights of both
Saves some time
analog moth
Oh good point
foggy salmon
will there ever be a comp beta for ow2?
slate siren
is the pick em points not showing for y’all as well or is it only me
cedar oasis
Lastro better
cedar oasis
No
feral vapor
how do we join overwatch contenders
ivory mason
who won glads v boston?
frosty patrol
yes
we should've picked up revenge and chiyo
because chiyo was 18 for playins/playoffs
frosty patrol
yes
hot onyx
Not exactly pretty
I’d prefer to put that cash towards a more stable main support that at the time of the drought of talented main supports would’ve been above average
Like Unique
I don’t think it’s a hot take to say Unique >> Closer
hot onyx
Clestyn instead of Fury
sullen berry
Just waiting to claim my title as best week 1 preds in r/OWL pickems
Nobody had the perfect streak
They either not got Dallas Houston or failed to clinch less than three perfect map preds
3-1watch
Best week
frosty patrol
ready for justice to dumpster fuel today
hot onyx
Absolutely not
Im ready for Fuel to redeem themselves after that embarrassing showing against Outlaws
Rush will have given the Dallas players a grand old spanking and fueled them up on speed
Rascal is going to teach Sp9rk1e how to play genji the real way
hot onyx
https://twitter.com/itsPatiphan/status/1523076839501049856
Fusion after winning 3-1 vs the Los Angeles Valiant June 5th 2021
hot onyx
that's what happens when Mano Hotba Tobi play out of position and Carpe decides reaper is a good play vs Krystal ashe
worthy quail
So emongg and flats aren't actually pro players for their teams, but just content creators that are afiliated?
worthy quail
Im so smart 😎
balmy wolf
what do u peeps think of nero's tracer?
honestly how is reign so stacked like jesus
Nero is nutty UV is nutty Ojee is nutty Kai is nutty and Hawk is nutty
can't even point out the weakest link in the team but I'm leaning towards Kai which is insane since he's like solid A tier
hot onyx
Nero is nutty UV is nutty Ojee is nutty Kai is nutty and Hawk is nutty
still downgrades to Pelican and Iris
balmy wolf
and you're not even wrong lmao wtf
balmy wolf
tho I think UV and Ir1s are pretty relative
Pelican is still prob better than Nero but that's cuz Pelican is like S tier
willow drum
Personally i think finn is better than both uv and iris
hot onyx
personally i think saying Iris = UV is disrespectful to Iris
willow drum
personally i think saying Iris = UV is disrespectful to Iris
UV has good zen
balmy wolf
UV was absolutely fuckin yesterday tho
willow drum
and i havent seen iris zen
frosty patrol
personally I'll make Shock takes when they play a team that isn't bottom 3
hot onyx
personally I'll make Shock takes when they play a team that isn't bottom 3
bottom 5*
willow drum
personally I'll make Shock takes when they play a team that isn't bottom 3
i dont think paris was bottom 3
balmy wolf
UV kinda reminds me of Kaan
frosty patrol
paris is 18th
balmy wolf
too bad paris looked so trash
hot onyx
Paris better than Valiant and Titans without Aztac
frosty patrol
london is 20th
willow drum
paris is 18th
ig thats fair
willow drum
personally i think saying Iris = UV is disrespectful to Iris
I haven't seen iris zenyatta
which prob means hes not comfy at it
iris > uv on the bap
balmy wolf
I can't remember what my pred was for paris florida
balmy wolf
I have 3-1 florida - paris dang
willow drum
yet people rate him as the best fs of all time
he's the greatest for sure
don't think its that debatable
balmy wolf
viol2t is the greatest flex player of all time
dude can easily flex on dps as well if he wishes
hot onyx
he's the greatest for sure
that's blatant Alarm slander
willow drum
that's blatant Alarm slander
it's not
alarm never won any titles
alarm might be the BEST FS
balmy wolf
Did alarm play any ana?
willow drum
but he's not the greatest
balmy wolf
thought it was usually twilight that played ana
willow drum
Did alarm play any ana?
a ton of it LOL
hot onyx
Did alarm play any ana?
his best hero was ana???????
willow drum
alarm was on fusion
balmy wolf
damn wonky memory
I thought he was a bap main wtf
I stg I remember twilight being the ana and alarm being the bap
that might've been season 3 tho haha
hot onyx
I stg I remember twilight being the ana and alarm being the bap
Alarm Twilight duo????????
willow drum
alarm and twilight never played
willow drum
ir1s bap > uv bap
iris ana =< uv ana
iris zen < uv zen
yes this is my take as well
so they're about equal
frosty patrol
alarm never won any titles
IZAYAKI IS THE BEST FLEX SUPPORT OF ALL TIME
7 TITLES IN 4 YEARS
hot onyx
alarm and twilight never played
not true
frosty patrol
- kilo enjoyer
frosty patrol
^
balmy wolf
damn wtf is up with my memory then
willow drum
not in OWL i meant...
willow drum
Alarm and Twilight never played on the same team in OWL
hot onyx
Alarm and Twilight never played on the same team in OWL
correct
willow drum
Izayaki didn't get 2x GF back to back
hot onyx
and by your metric
by that metric it makes Alarm worse than Kariv
frosty patrol
viol2t is just worse than alarm
hot onyx
because Kariv has more titles than Alarm
willow drum
Alarm might be the best FS but he's not like the most accomplished/greatest
hot onyx
and worse than rapel
and Hagopeun
hot onyx
Alarm might be the best FS but he's not like the most accomplished/greatest
that's not what the argument is
balmy wolf
who would win between eu and na this season btw
frosty patrol
who would win between eu and na this season btw
NA easily
frosty patrol
EU is better than Australia but significantly worse than any other region
balmy wolf
no I mean a team full of eu players vs a team full of na players
best of na vs best of eu
frosty patrol
no I mean a team full of eu players vs a team full of na players
NA easily
willow drum
best of na
balmy wolf
fair
willow drum
only eu dps are like sparkr and fucking yszna
hot onyx
He doesn't have titles
Viol2t wasn't stuck with Mano ball, EQO sombra, visa issues, integration issues with western players, and a washed up Rascal and Tobi, for three quarters of the season
willow drum
kevster and kai
I thought you meant on the ranked ladder
balmy wolf
oh nono
willow drum
and Alarm still played better than Viol2t on an individual level
That's great! He still doesn't have any titles to his name unfortunately
balmy wolf
I mean like hypothetically the best eu team u can create vs the best na team u can create
frosty patrol
vs Reiner Hawk Hydron Speedily/Nero Ojee Ultraviolet
willow drum
Alarm 100% deserved titles
hot onyx
That's great! He still doesn't have any titles to his name unfortunately
titles doesn't equal better player
willow drum
but never got them
balmy wolf
vs Reiner Hawk Hydron Speedily/Nero Ojee Ultraviolet
na definitely has eu beat in the tank role
frosty patrol
That's great! He still doesn't have any titles to his name unfortunately
Izayaki is the best player of all time
willow drum
titles doesn't equal better player
I'm not trying to argue who was a better player, I'm trying to argue who was the greater player aka who was more accomplished
balmy wolf
a toss up
willow drum
Izayaki is the best player of all time
wrong because izayaki did not have 2x gf wins
hot onyx
if you're saying Hadi Alex Kai Kevster Funnyastro Kaan wins
Lullsish Poko over Hadi Alex imo
frosty patrol
dps eu wins
hot onyx
I'm not trying to argue who was a better player, I'm trying to argue who was the...
that's great, Viol2t was in the league longer with less competition
frosty patrol
wrong because izayaki did not have 2x gf wins
ok so you're saying smurf is a better maintank all time than fate
got it
willow drum
ok so you're saying smurf is a better maintank all time than fate
smurf is a more accomplished maintank
frosty patrol
or super > fate
willow drum
or super > fate
super is a more accomplished maintank
frosty patrol
hear me out
hot onyx
smurf is a more accomplished maintank
that is such a dumb argument, all we need to see about accomplishments is a liquipedia article
frosty patrol
a grand finals win is not your accomplishment
and should not make you better than another player automatically
why are you yelling about how viol2t is more accomplished than alarm
hot onyx
WhoRU is a more accomplished player than Leave
frosty patrol
^
willow drum
why are you yelling about how viol2t is more accomplished than alarm
Because Sans is telling me that saying Viol2t is the greatest FS player is wrong
frosty patrol
yes, it is
hot onyx
Because Sans is telling me that saying Viol2t is the greatest FS player is wrong
yes it is
willow drum
My definition of greatest is not best
it's not who looked better
but it's who got titles
and won championships
hot onyx
with all due respect, that is the dumbest shit i have ever heard
willow drum
with all due respect, that is the dumbest shit i have ever heard
I 100% agree with you that Viol2t is NOT the best FS of all time
frosty patrol
izayaki > alarm
hot onyx
and this is coming from a guy who had to listen to Levy explain why Profit is a better ashe than Carpe
frosty patrol
this is some shock fan mental gymnastics and you should sentence yourself to a mental hospital
hot onyx
put Alarm on Shock and they win just as much titles
frosty patrol
jumping through 19 hoops to spread viol2t propaganda
willow drum
Greatest = won more titles
Best = looked the best and was #1 on their role
hot onyx
more*
i wouldn't go that far since we're talking about forcing tracer in a hard genji meta
hot onyx
it was
frosty patrol
I rated alarm over viol2t on every hero but zen in season 3
hot onyx
but the upgrade in brig wouldn't have beaten peak Sp9rk1e genji
willow drum
put Alarm on Shock and they win just as much titles
But Alarm never was on the Shock, so he doesn't get to be on the greatest team of OW1. I agree with you that Viol2t certainly is not the best flex support, but he is the most accomplished. I don't think you can argue with that though
hot onyx
But Alarm never was on the Shock, so he doesn't get to be on the greatest team o...
that's not what im arguing
frosty patrol
most accomplished doesn't equal greatest
because greatest means
above everyone else
hot onyx
im arguing that Alarm is still the greatest despite not winning any titles
willow drum
above everyone else
Viol2t was CERTAINLY above everyone else in terms of titles
frosty patrol
izayaki
willow drum
izayaki never won 2x gf
hot onyx
izayaki
willow drum
gfs much more value than stage championships
hot onyx
gf is just another tournament win
frosty patrol
grand finals don't matter more because they were unironically rigged by blizzard until last year
willow drum
gf is just another tournament win
wrong, a gf win carries more merit than stage win
hot onyx
wrong, a gf win carries more merit than stage win
only because of hype revenue as the last stage tournament of the season
willow drum
like if you ask someone do you remember who won s3 gfs they'll say shock but if you ask someone who won ss finals in apac they wouldn't know its guangzhou
frosty patrol
like if you ask someone do you remember who won s3 gfs they'll say shock but if ...
yes they would
willow drum
as an actual tourney it's no different to a stage
The prize money
hot onyx
The prize money
it's literally only advertised as something bigger to get watchtime
willow drum
I don't watch contendors china
frosty patrol
ok it was lge huya
not qualified to talk about organized overwatch
no valid opinion
willow drum
??
hot onyx
not qualified to talk about organized overwatch
so true
willow drum
I started watching OWL after S2
round shadow
common L take from shock fan nothing new
willow drum
it's literally only advertised as something bigger to get watchtime
the prize money is literally bigger
frosty patrol
common L take from shock fan nothing new
so true
willow drum
how can you argue that a grand finals win carries just the same amount of weight as a stage win
frosty patrol
I started watching OWL after S2
and you haven't watched contenders grand finals vods in the offseason or anything?
slate siren
Is there an overwatch league server?
willow drum
and you haven't watched contenders grand finals vods in the offseason or anythin...
not of china no
not the s2 2019 anyway*
round shadow
Is there an overwatch league server?
yeah
frosty patrol
2 time contenders champion haker
frosty patrol
Is there an overwatch league server?
no
there's the r/overwatchleague server
but
that's just stupid people
same with the r/competitiveoverwatch server
@hot onyx did you know
haker is more accomplished than mn3
hot onyx
haker is more accomplished than mn3
i did know thanks for asking
must mean Haker is a greater player than MN3
round shadow
that's just stupid people
Wtf theres a feud between r/overwatch discord and r/overwatchleague? Lol
frosty patrol
yes
frosty patrol
Wtf theres a feud between r/overwatch discord and r/overwatchleague? Lol
no we just spot stupid
there's no feud
just superiority
round shadow
w mindset
willow drum
Wtf theres a feud between r/overwatch discord and r/overwatchleague? Lol
OWL reddit mostly same as Comp OW
same thing except 1 is a much smaller reddit than the other
earnest leaf
ok so you're saying smurf is a better maintank all time than fate
Smurf was better for more years so yes
Fate was never in the discussion before one year of good play
frosty patrol
fate had one bad year
willow drum
sans what are ur preds for tday
earnest leaf
S3 he was decent but still noticably behind top MTs
hot onyx
man just got passed around two bottom 5 teams in season 2
earnest leaf
S1 no one really cares about
frosty patrol
man just got passed around two bottom 5 teams in season 2
valiant weren't bottom 5 because ksf is the mvp
13th
frosty patrol
remember Valiant trading Fate for FCTFCTN?
fctfctn apply and mcgravy*
hot onyx
ah yes
earnest leaf
But fate's one great season in s4 in no way gives him enough merit to be the best MT in ow1
hot onyx
Fire zen
willow drum
Fire is a top 5 fs in s3?
what
frosty patrol
fate was the 2nd best mt in s1, was on bottom 5 teams in s2, was the 4th-5th best mt in s3, and the 1st-2nd best mt in s4
smurf's only season with enough playtime he was first
but
pelican isn't all time better than fleta
hot onyx
fate was the 2nd best mt in s1, was on bottom 5 teams in s2, was the 4th-5th bes...
important question, who was 1st season 1?
earnest leaf
No one cares about s1
willow drum
sans what did u predict for today
earnest leaf
And one tricking ball s4 doesn't do much for me in all time stuff
frosty patrol
fuck off. GamsuSZN
nah gamsuszn was season 2
when super was the 2nd best mt
gamsu 1
hot onyx
sans what did u predict for today
Titans 3-1 Spitfire, Paris 3-2 Mayhem, Dallas 3-0 Justice, Outlaws 3-1 Defiant
frosty patrol
And one tricking ball s4 doesn't do much for me in all time stuff
one tricking orisa in s2 for 25% of a season doesn't do much for me in all time stuff
neither does getting 40% playtime in s4
willow drum
Titans 3-1 Spitfire, Paris 3-2 Mayhem, Dallas 3-0 Justice, Outlaws 3-1 Defiant
I had 3-2 spitfire, mayhem 3-1, dallas 3-1 and outlaws 3-1
hot onyx
I had 3-2 spitfire, mayhem 3-1, dallas 3-1 and outlaws 3-1
actual Titans slander
willow drum
actual Titans slander
fr idk what i was thinking
hot onyx
Seicoe sucks but no shot he gets diffed by Backbone
frosty patrol
I had 3-2 spitfire, mayhem 3-1, dallas 3-1 and outlaws 3-1
3-1 titans 3-2 mayhem 3-2 justice 3-1 outlaws
willow drum
they have masaa on lucio they cant lose to london
earnest leaf
Stuff in s2 on top of being a top 2 winston and orisa for the next two seasons does a bit more for me than fate
round shadow
would be so funny if dallas shit the bed again
willow drum
hopefully dallas does shit the bed
would love to see the bandwagon fans blame edison
hot onyx
3-1 titans 3-2 mayhem 3-2 justice 3-1 outlaws
ah yes because Opener Krillin can beat ChiYo Fielder
willow drum
(rightfully deserved)
frosty patrol
Stuff in s2 on top of being a top 2 winston and orisa for the next two seasons d...
ah yes because smurf's orisa was better than one of fearless or mag and his orisa was better than one of fate or gator
also
40% playtime
round shadow
hopefully dallas does shit the bed
greatest timeline
frosty patrol
that's like mistakes in season 1
earnest leaf
Yes smurf shared play time with the best ow1 mt
hot onyx
would love to see the bandwagon fans blame edison
i blame Edison and im not a bandwagon fan, just someone that likes to see the chaotic hivemind of Dallas
frosty patrol
smurf had one season where he got over 50% of the playtime
no shot is he better than a mt with 3 top 5 seasons
earnest leaf
ah yes because smurf's orisa was better than one of fearless or mag and his oris...
Only fearless has an argument for better winston, not mag
hot onyx
that is pissed that Fuel spent $101,400 on Edison Guriyo instead of putting it towards MN3 Mer1t or Kilo
frosty patrol
Only fearless has an argument for better winston, not mag
watch justice in may melee
willow drum
that is pissed that Fuel spent $101,400 on Edison Guriyo instead of putting it t...
real
willow drum
either one of those solid hitscans would have hit the shots edison missed
earnest leaf
And smurf was also even with fearless and at times exceeding him
frosty patrol
to a clean 2nd
frosty patrol
And smurf was also even with fearless and at times exceeding him
nah no way
this is some shock bias
frosty patrol
saying someone who had over 50% playtime for one season is better all time than someone with 3 top 5 seasons
lunacy
typical shock fan behavior
earnest leaf
Classic cope denying the individual skill shock players had
willow drum
mike what team do u support
earnest leaf
Cope
willow drum
chengdu?
frosty patrol
smurf had one season with enough playtime to count
you can combine s2 and s4
that's 2 top 5 seasons
hot onyx
And smurf was also even with fearless and at times exceeding him
one match doesn't make him even
frosty patrol
3 > 2
hot onyx
when Fearless was all around better
willow drum
chengdu/justice
thoughts on decay then
hot onyx
so are Carpe simps
hot onyx
both of them will argue to their dying breath that one player is S and the other is low B
frosty patrol
is the fury simps
hot onyx
when both of them are on exactly the same tier
frosty patrol
fury = void is a disturbingly common take
willow drum
fury overrated
hot onyx
except Carpe is better hard hitscan Decay is better as tracer and genji
hot onyx
Everyone puts him A to B
there's a lot of Fusion fans that still rate him S
round shadow
cause all philly fans are perma boomed
hot onyx
stuck in the past tbh
frosty patrol
those are the same fusion fans with massive belosrea fury copium btw
hot onyx
get with the future S tier hitscan in MN3
frosty patrol
disgusting individuals
willow drum
yes
hot onyx
those are the same fusion fans with massive belosrea fury copium btw
i had one guy unironically say Belosrea Fury is a better tankline than Sado Clestyn
willow drum
i had one guy unironically say Belosrea Fury is a better tankline than Sado Cles...
???
holy cope
frosty patrol
i had one guy unironically say Belosrea Fury is a better tankline than Sado Cles...
on the justice fanboy side
someone told me happy decay assassin is a top 2 dps line
willow drum
who wins the battle of california if shock do a homestand against glads
earnest leaf
Hard to say
frosty patrol
who wins the battle of california if shock do a homestand against glads
if patiphan is benched glads
hot onyx
that Sado is "heavily resource reliant" being the main argument
willow drum
if patiphan is benched glads
they tend to dislike benching him though
frosty patrol
so shock then
hot onyx
someone told me happy decay assassin is a top 2 dps line
holy mental health issues, batman
frosty patrol
patiphan bottom 1
earnest leaf
Shock dps would win out, and supports would be close
Reiner monkey better than coluge
willow drum
patiphan was in like 6 maps out of the 8 maps that glads played
frosty patrol
holy mental health issues, batman
also heard mag kalios top 3, marginally better than the dps take but still deluded
hot onyx
patiphan was in like 6 maps out of the 8 maps that glads played
and won 5 of them
willow drum
and won 5 of them
cause he had a super team
behind him
and fought against mid - bad NA teams
hot onyx
also heard mag kalios top 3, marginally better than the dps take but still delud...
Mag Kalios isn't even top 5
my brain
frosty patrol
Mag Kalios isn't even top 5
it is currently because mag locks monkey and is 2-5
earnest leaf
But vs a stronger team he might fall off a bit
hot onyx
Mag inconsistent
frosty patrol
not on monkey really
hot onyx
he'll fall off when a different meta approaches
frosty patrol
his one consistently S tier hero
frosty patrol
he'll fall off when a different meta approaches
yes
earnest leaf
On winston mag is pretty consistent
frosty patrol
I take justice here because fuel always underperform vs justice in the first 3 weeks of the season
hot onyx
i just refuse to believe a top 3 NA team goes 0-2 in their first week
frosty patrol
has it not happened before?
hot onyx
i mean Mayhem started a bit rocky season 3
earnest leaf
Shock had a rough start in s3
earnest leaf
When they dropped matches to la teams
hot onyx
yeah but that wasn't the first week
earnest leaf
Was pretty early though iirc
hot onyx
it was like 2nd and 3rd week when the region split hit
earnest leaf
Just checked, it was their 2nd and 3rd match of the year
willow drum
yes
hot onyx
Rush will field one of the non bottom 5 dps players this time
And when he does Fuel will pop off
willow drum
doha?
hot onyx
Possibly
hot onyx
I’d even take Guriyo at this point over Edison
willow drum
I’d even take Guriyo at this point over Edison
ok but thats not saying muhc
hot onyx
I’d always rather have the devil I don’t know over the devil I do know
And even though I know Guriyo from korean contenders and how he got hard diffed by MN3 Mer1t Kilo Develop and Ezhan
willow drum
Ezhan diff
hot onyx
Rush must’ve seen something
willow drum
would rather have ado over guriyo
hot onyx
That prompted him to sign his ass
willow drum
Rush must’ve seen something
is ezhan signed
hot onyx
Whereas Edison got signed due to GC Busan nepotism with Fielder bigging him up
hot onyx
is ezhan signed
Yes Valiant
willow drum
maybe fuel just had last pick
we never know what rush saw in guriyo
its probably the same thing that crusty saw in kilo
except the difference is one hitscan's good
other isn't
earnest leaf
Kilo was a package deal is my guess
hot onyx
Imagine if Pelican said to Houston that he isn’t joining without Proper or Kai
willow drum
lol imagine
doubt package deals exist in OW
mer1ts tracking is insane
but kilos hard hs prob better
hot onyx
Personally if I had to choose between the two preseason I would’ve picked Mer1t
Just because he impressed me that little bit more
willow drum
Personally if I had to choose between the two preseason I would’ve picked Mer1t
My guess is that Mer1t is older
And Kilo isn't as developed
which might mean Crusty will have easier time to work with him
¯_(ツ)_/¯
frosty patrol
And even though I know Guriyo from korean contenders and how he got hard diffed ...
don’t forget hidden and babel
:)
hot onyx
don’t forget hidden and babel
Avillos clears
frosty patrol
true
hot onyx
which might mean Crusty will have easier time to work with him
“Crusty likes underdeveloped boys”
willow drum
thats why he signed a 12 year old for s2 mt
hot onyx
Did someone say mag is bad
Not bad, just not the top 5 warlord that Justice fans claim him to be
fathom igloo
Not bad, just not the top 5 warlord that Justice fans claim him to be
Mag is one of the best MTs
fathom igloo
Like bro he outplayed fearless on rein last year
Like the only hero he isn't good at is ball
hot onyx
He’s an above average rein and good winston
The holes on orisa and ball don’t make up for it
fathom igloo
He's one of the best Winstons in the league
hot onyx
I can name at least 4 winstons better
earnest leaf
Top monkey everything else is around average or slightly above
fathom igloo
The only hero he really struggles on is ball
This is coming from a justice fan
Like you go back to last year when he's on he's on like no doubt he's a top player
frosty patrol
@north relic @hot onyx any duoers
willow drum
@fathom igloo preds for tday?
gloomy vector
Titans 3-2 Paris 3-2 Fuel 3-1 Outlaws 3-1
gloomy vector
i thought Mayhem looked super weak were imo paris looked ok
willow drum
mayhem got more on atl
then paris did on shock
maybe ATL is worser team than Shock
but paris did get rolled harder by T1 team
so have less faith
earnest leaf
Mayhem better than paris
gloomy vector
thats what my logic was but i just think Florida isnt gonna play welll
willow drum
thats what my logic was but i just think Florida isnt gonna play welll
Just gut instinct?
gloomy vector
i mean i agree ido have it at 3-2 for a reason
willow drum
i can dig that
gloomy vector
like the justice one i went with justice
gloomy vector
td
everyone was saying that Defiant was gonna win EZ Clap
but i thought it was gonna be a 3-2 justice and people thought i was crazy'
willow drum
i predicted WJ won as well
td will never be top 5 na
they always will be gatekeepers
gloomy vector
they do have a stronglooking team its just hotba LUL
i mean if they keep putting in Hotba idk
twilit oriole
i mean if they keep putting in Hotba idk
Yeah Godba has to chill for a little
Let muze play
gloomy vector
im not even hating TD i just dont have faith in that team and i agree Muze just needs to be in
twilit oriole
I thought Toronto would run more sombra comps
gloomy vector
like next week i have TD beating Paris
gloomy vector
yeah but i have Paris beating Florida
the only real one im "scared " of is coluge
i feel like Outlaws will be fine but there tank is good
gloomy vector
i think are DPS can hold there own
its gonna be more even than people will expect imo
hot onyx
its the dps matchup
dps matchup is purely even
Mer1t Pelican Danteh are literal mirrored equals to Kilo Proper S9mm
Coluge might be better than Piggy on mt but Piggy better ot
gloomy vector
we do also a doom if needed at least
hot onyx
piggy is not a better OT
they're both good but if i had the choice i'd pick Piggy
sue
me
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i mean its fair
willow tartan
Coluge might be better than Piggy on mt but Piggy better ot
yeah but danteh is better than coluge
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but its veryclose
gloomy vector
i know Coluge is the worst matchup for us ithink the others are more equal
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mer1t soldier
is not better than proper's soldier
finn will shit on iris unfortunately
after iris hit his peak first game
hot onyx
finn will shit on iris unfortunately
slander
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just gonna see
hot onyx
Iris is just getting started
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how they shut down pelican
gloomy vector
yeah it is next week
hot onyx
"B tier flex support" my ass
hot onyx
never said he was b tier
balmy wolf
houston will get shit on by shock
gloomy vector
LUL exposed
hot onyx
Outlaws deniers in shambles
gloomy vector
no its gonna be who ever is playing to their strengths is gonna win
willow tartan
i think the Shanghai Dragons will win
gloomy vector
like i will always believe Outlaws on top but i doubt its gonna be a stomp
hot onyx
right there in black and white
fathom igloo
<@156792625083449344> preds for tday?
3-2 either
gloomy vector
yeah im excited to watch the dragons
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balmy wolf
coluge => piggy cuz i hate outlaws
shock dps > outlaws
finn > iris
viol2t > lastro
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@hot onyx dumb fuck actually cant read
fathom igloo
If Edison is playing then justice wins
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unlucky
twilit oriole
If Edison is playing then justice wins
Say hi back Patty boy😡
hot onyx
<@398500839469219850> dumb fuck actually cant read
@next mesa dumb fuck actually can't spell
gloomy vector
i think DPS is more equal ngl
twilit oriole
How about you go think about some bitches
gloomy vector
coluge => piggy cuz i hate outlaws
shock dps > outlaws
finn > iris
viol2t > last...
you also have to remember we have doom danteh
hot onyx
misses the A key and goes 4 keys over to B in a typing error
fathom igloo
Love how forgokdking is talking but I have him blocked lmao
twilit oriole
No
fathom igloo
Wait who all is playing today again besides the justice
twilit oriole
Wait who all is playing today again besides the justice
Me and you
gloomy vector
we also you can have other keyboards than qwerty
hot onyx
you know that different countries use different keyboard layouts right?
canada keyboard layout is exactly the same as england?
twilit oriole
Yeah we’re British
willow tartan
levy is in canada????
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oh my god
twilit oriole
I’m strapped cuh you don’t want the smoke ahlie
fathom igloo
Canada doesn't exist like Texas
willow tartan
that wasnt the fucking question you stupid dumbass
twilit oriole
Patty boy did I say you can talk
willow tartan
if you read the context of the question
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you asked me the race
willow tartan
i ask you if you are korean
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whatchu mean
balmy wolf
you also have to remember we have doom danteh
coluge is probably going winston
fathom igloo
Imagine trolling lmao
willow tartan
fuck u
balmy wolf
not doom
twilit oriole
Notice how no one is responding to you Pokemanpat
hot onyx
Levy chinese yet spouts out regular Spark slander saying they'll be worse than Seoul
curious
twilit oriole
That means you shouldn’t be talking
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Levy chinese yet spouts out regular Spark slander saying they'll be worse than S...
just true
also i hate china
willow tartan
There's a reason why he is in canada
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as a country
willow tartan
(he was deported)
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sorry!
willow tartan
(we dont want him here)
gloomy vector
oh i know its just we have a pocket doom and a monkey match up
twilit oriole
I’m from Canada
twilit oriole
Ong
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😃
hot onyx
If you support the chinese government
rare brilliant take
twilit oriole
I hate those mfs
twilit oriole
Hey
hot onyx
no
twilit oriole
I live here I have the right
hot onyx
Heesu Hotba KDG Mobydik nepotism here
fathom igloo
now supporting toronto though
Facts
willow tartan
Unfortunate
willow drum
finn will shit on iris unfortunately
real
hot onyx
top fs right now is
Aztac
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no
willow drum
after we see apac play its 1) izayaki 2) leejaegon (zen)
surely
willow drum
leejaegon will play zen!
tropic herald
top fs right now is
UV 
willow drum
UV sadly not as good as finn
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imo
twilit oriole
Guys If Pokemanpat talks just spam “shut up Patty boy”
willow drum
#3 probably
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that'd be awesome and he'd get gapped by MMonk
jjonak owns mmonk
willow drum
It probably goes Shu Finn UV Ir1s
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mmonk came from jjonak
north relic
guys is mike slacking
willow tartan
jjonak came from ryujehong
tropic herald
Me when the when the EU teams are shit and get swept but then when the decent teams also get rolled it doesn’t make you any better
willow tartan
heis nothing
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agree
hot onyx
literally the second worst downgrade Atlanta made behind coaching
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jehong the goat
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literally the second worst downgrade Atlanta made behind coaching
you are unbelievably dumb
im sorry
but also not really
UV is extremely extremely good
hot onyx
guys is mike slacking
ball main playing widow, happens
frosty patrol
guys is mike slacking
1 death + I'm on widow
tropic herald
UV and Iris are unfortunately both very good flex supports
Sorry you had to find out this way
hot onyx
UV is extremely extremely good
when he faces more difficult competition than below average NA teams i'll believe it
north relic
1 death + I'm on widow
i also have 1 death 3x your dmg and 3x your kills
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UV and Iris are unfortunately both very good flex supports
i agree
tropic herald
I love how Florida is considered equal competition to either EU team in this meta
willow drum
guys is mike slacking
yes!
twilit oriole
Today the fraud lastro lucio will be exposed to the greats of ch0r0ng Lucio
tropic herald
If you are gonna shit on UV for having no competition then why are you going to put Finn on a pedestal
hot onyx
i have never heard anything more stupid than "guy that dominated Simple Pr🤮v1de and Landon is better than a top 5 flex support"
willow drum
i have never heard anything more stupid than "guy that dominated Simple Pr🤮v1de...
provide didnt play
??
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i have never heard anything more stupid than "guy that dominated Simple Pr🤮v1de...
u dont watch actual gameplay unfortunately
fathom igloo
Imo London looked good they were just up against a scary shock
feral wing
whats the discussion
willow drum
u dont watch actual gameplay unfortunately
actually true
hot onyx
provide didnt play
talking about in the NA Contenders finals vs Darkmode
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only look at scores
willow drum
talking about in the NA Contenders finals vs Darkmode
OH WAIT
twilit oriole
London where ass
willow drum
OKAY NVM
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and make conclusions based on that
twilit oriole
What are you on
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unfortunately very dumb
tropic herald
Sometimes I use my eyes to see how flex supports play the game but apparently sans doesn’t
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agree
fathom igloo
Sometimes I use my eyes to see how flex supports play the game but apparently sa...
Imagine
willow tartan
god I have a shor headache
hot onyx
and make conclusions based on that
i watch a scary amount of games, alongside my opinion not being clouded by bias i am a significantly better analyst than you
willow tartan
just woke up too
hot onyx
claiming i dont even watch the games lmao
willow drum
just woke up too
u sleep well?
willow tartan
apparently not
willow drum
how many hrs
willow tartan
because I feel like am Abt to throw up
fathom igloo
I want to go back to bed
willow tartan
bro I'm not a sleep grinder you think I count how much?
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and yet you make these dumb conclusions
willow drum
because I feel like am Abt to throw up
perhaps drink water
willow tartan
that's sweaty af
fathom igloo
because I feel like am Abt to throw up
That's not good
willow drum
bro I'm not a sleep grinder you think I count how much?
how is counting hrs of sleep sweaty ???
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like its so sad
willow tartan
???
willow drum
see what time u wake up
twilit oriole
I want to go back to bed
Go to sleep Patty boy
hot onyx
you claim that you watch games
oh yeah i forgot to watch the games so im claiming i watched them to make myself sound smart
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that you spend a significant amount of time
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watching overwatch
feral wing
no one on this server has good takes
excuse me
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and yet
willow tartan
it's 9 pm and I slept after lunch
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these are the conclusions you comeup with
willow tartan
so somewhere around that range
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unlucky
hot onyx
watching overwatch
you claim i do not, yet you are not me and i am me
twilit oriole
Pokemanpat why are you still talking no one is responding to you
hot onyx
curious
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no im saying
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that say you do
willow drum
honestly
willow drum
maybe take some medicine if u have a migrane?
willow tartan
bro sleeping 9 hrs should be enough
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because that means you wasted all this time watching overwatch just to come up with shit takes
unlucky
there are some people that have good takes
such as jazzy
hot onyx
because that means you wasted all this time watching overwatch just to come up w...
ok "Profit ashe > Carpe ashe"
willow drum
ok "Profit ashe > Carpe ashe"
carpe 2nd most overrated player
hot onyx
come back when you admit Valiant only has two good player
willow drum
will never play next to mn3 and zest this year
feral wing
carpe 2nd most overrated player
u need help
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🤷♂️ 🤷♂️
twilit oriole
Bro stop talking everyone
feral wing
like that is such a horrendously bad take
twilit oriole
Pls
willow drum
u need help
i do but thats not beyond the point
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carpe is fine
hot onyx
u need help
ok Fusion fan
willow drum
carpe 2nd most overrated player in league imo, people still hype him up to being S tier
truth is he's like low A
hot onyx
what next, you're gonna say Belosrea is not a bottom 5 main tank?
feral wing
carpe 2nd most overrated player in league imo, people still hype him up to being...
because he literally is high A tier or S tier on hard hs heroes
fathom igloo
Carpe is falling off
twilit oriole
Carpe is falling off
LMAOOOO
feral wing
hes just not when hes on tracer/sombra etc
willow drum
because he literally is high A tier or S tier on hard hs heroes
carpe is not s tier
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because he literally is high A tier or S tier on hard hs heroes
he is not
willow drum
what world is carpe high a tier
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carpe is not S tier on any heroes
fathom igloo
because he literally is high A tier or S tier on hard hs heroes
Bitch he ain't
twilit oriole
he isn’t falling off what
feral wing
carpe is not S tier on any heroes
?
earnest leaf
Carpe been mid to low A tier on HS since s2
twilit oriole
Bitch he ain't
@feral wing I would not hug this
willow drum
holy shit this fusion fan so cope
feral wing
bro i swear none of you watch OWL
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im sorry
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bro i swear none of you watch OWL
we can tell you're a casual
feral wing
holy shit this fusion fan so cope
just because ur a fucking degen with 0 friends
willow drum
bro i swear none of you watch OWL
wrong
fathom igloo
bro i swear none of you watch OWL
He was back in s1
willow drum
just because ur a fucking degen with 0 friends
cope
hot onyx
there's a lot of Fusion fans that still rate him S
this is what i was talking about @earnest leaf
willow drum
seeth and mald @feral wing
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if you think carpe is s tier
earnest leaf
Lmao
willow drum
u still have belosrea on ur team
willow drum
fusion wont even be top 4 apac omegalul
willow drum
Idk what the argument is but Kai >> Carpe
real
willow tartan
fleta McCree >
hot onyx
Idk what the argument is but Kai >> Carpe
real but MN3 clears both while blindfolded
fathom igloo
Fleta outplays carpe 99% of the time
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several hitscans are better than carpe, carpe isn't even the best hitscan on his team lmao
feral wing
mf ive literally played pro i think i know what im talking about better than ur 500lbs sweaty ass sitting in ur room whining online because you have literally 0 social life
😭
twilit oriole
We live in a world where that Patty boy called Jackero a bitch and he hugged it, sad times
willow drum
mf ive literally played pro i think i know what im talking about better than ur ...
cope
seethe
mald
u still have belosrea on ur team
L
fusion fan
fathom igloo
mf ive literally played pro i think i know what im talking about better than ur ...
Cry more for me kid
willow tartan
you played pro? Hahahahhaab good joke
twilit oriole
mf ive literally played pro i think i know what im talking about better than ur ...
😭😭😭😭
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mf ive literally played pro i think i know what im talking about better than ur ...
omg you played pro you are so good man hardstuck t2
hot onyx
mf ive literally played pro i think i know what im talking about better than ur ...
false information + you have Belosrea over Sado
willow tartan
Imagine thinking contenders players know what they are doing
twilit oriole
You guys wanna see something?
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pro players have the worst takes
hot onyx
and FiXa over Sanguinar
willow drum
Imagine thinking contenders players know what they are doing
collegiate*
feral wing
Cry more for me kid
judging by your pfp you weigh so much you probably have your own gravitational pull at this point