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yeah but wasn't MYKaylee like an insane echo?
shy
on UP Academy
Bernar
I mean that’s his only good projectile hero
oh ok
good luck one tricking hitscan + echo
Kaneki then
Aight thanks how do you think the Spark is gonna do in OWL?
9th in my power rankings
8th in mine
Bed shitters
17th
fuck um
Farway is a free agent that used to play in contenders
charon is the safe pick
farway in the league last year
doesn’t count
just go charon lmfao
Me
best available
I’m the best available
kaneki and lige are exceptions
i’ll make the rule this
cn contenders season 2
if you were in owl
is a requirement
so kaneki lige are eligible
farway is not
brb dinner
duo with me
Yveltal
In tren
If you are available in an hour
Subway surfer irl
As Ian would say
Wowie
Now that's probably a power ranking I couldn't see happening at the end of the year
Guangzhou copium
There's one guy who quoted retweeted those eyes three times
Easily I'm more enthusiastic if he even manages a spot in contenders china
Can't go back to Team Chaser, anywhere else will likely get him for cheap esp if we haven't taken much interest somehow
oh god
now I’m getting owl emails
wtf
the marketing team is going insane
youtube ads and emails for owl
they’re going hard
jesus
PACKING10????
MORE DELUSIONAL THAN ANY MEMBER HERE
hunters 6 apac
mayhem 3 na
defiant 9 na
???
idk why Chengdu are so low
and mayhem are so high
by default they're better than LAV and probably spark
and fusion are so high
Mayhem scrimbux through the roof rn
people are out here saying mayhem top 3 NA 💀
philly fine
packing10 insider information: spark shits the bed
any1 watch the new owl vid on top 5 dps players to look out for?
they did proper dirty
they put him #5 on there and gave him one clip of him missing everything
I just don’t understand Florida and that’s it
scrimbux
So what
Scrimbux don’t boost them that effing high they aren’t even that high with scrimbux
scrimbux
Even in scrims right now that’s not their rank
scrunbux
Carpe syndrome sounds about right, thanks Uber
Because ofc I needed to know how he ranked the other Chinese teams
what is the valiant motto?
"fuck those guys"
#InNoHillWeTrust
wing out
We are not broke

I should replace my OWL jersey wih a custom named one
OWEN and the number 20
Well look shanghai looks alright with an OWEN 40 but they don't need my money
whats nyxl
42
What's a london
ever upward
that isnt sky isnt it
ever upward doesnt mean sky
Sky is a flex support player for Shanghai Dragons in 2018
ever upward the power rankings
and then londons one is uhh
more like ever downwards amirite

ahahaha
A that's it something high earlier
NYXL be like Ever Downward the way their team keeps going
I invented it
Boston new colors?
memeicus is a terrorist
still down for duo?
addi has donowalled me for 4 hours
avoiding the 1v1
No ducking way
I am hearing Avast
Propose that Fusion is #9 overall
They are not better
Than Defiant
Or Spark
fusion getting overrated titans getting underrated imo
atlanta too high
Shanghai #1 London #20 all I need 
Boys the day is tomorrow
for shock to lose to paris
Tomorrow we are going to see Glads pound NYXL’s bussy
nah
honestly good
nyxl will clutch it out
I hate nyxl
i need to fill my pickems
NYXL I guess were a ball team
kellan aint a ball player
deserved
And ball is gone this weekend 🫣
time to do some research on schedules
I guess we wont play Ball everyday for 3 months straight incase it gets removed then. GLHF this weekend @flmayhem @nyxl
245
There’s the tweet
idk if it means a lot, but I heard s9mm say ball was the worst tank atm
ig there isnt a reason to look at apac schedules huh
my pickems if i get the nyxl copium off my system
I have no idea what’s going on in scrims I just linking the tweet by a pro implying things
Wait no
I’m dumb
Atlanta play those two teams
Some1fist goated
Florida 3-0 Atlanta
is there a way to change your lb name for pickems
THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT FUSION BEING HIGHER THAN HUNTERS
I guess it depends how you feel about Jinmu
Or how you feel about one coach
Also will leave be the first mvp to continue insanity after getting the award?
Diya fans have Carpe syndrome
Ok let’s go to last year
can overwatch league matches always be in the events schedule of this server from now on?
its a good change for ED representation
And look at how many matches Jinmu played
He played at least two if I had to guess
implying that jjonak wasnt good in 2019
Rating a player higher than they deserve to be rated due to heavy bias of being a huge fan of said player
There’s a difference between clear cut mvp and A+ player
And again
jjonak fleta were both really good the season after they won mvp
he was still insane
I believe
its just that the meta didnt allow him to solo carry as much lol
who knew, mvp players are good at the game
And Jimmy for like 7 maps
im sure sinatraa would've also still done well if he chose to stay in overwatch
Maybe more
I never said Jjonak bad in 2019
top tier predictions
But he did fall from heaven
Rest of the time Jinmu perma started
i guess he did set a pretty high bar
(pretty high bar)
(when actually it's unreachable)
I have atlanta winning 3-2 against florida. The only reason i give florida 2 maps is because they have xzi
He set a high bar in 2018 that immediately got smashed by Viol2t and twilight
yeah sorry i dont know what that is
???
Not in the term of relative dominance
my ratings have no bias at all
Fucking holy based Titans vs Uprising
Like actually no player or team is going to be as dominant as 2018 jjonak or nyxl
That shit unbreakable
League gotten too good for that
Shock already beat their dominance wym
jjonaks 2019 was great
??
his 2020 wasnt good
not relative to their time
Your mother had no bias when she chose me over your dad last night
jjonak 2019 was good
Relative dominance whatever, on individual skill I think the bar got smashed the next season
shock 2020 smaller sample size and still got other teams competing with them
yeah no shit
it gets smashed every season
game evolves and average player gets better
2020 good on some occasions
Honestly 2019 rating anyone in the league other than Viol2t or Twilight above JJoNak at that time would be borderline braindead
Yea, that’s my point, on an individual skill basis whatever bar the reigning mvp sets gets smashed next season and they aren’t a top player anymore, they are just outside of the top and are really good but it would be ludicrous to argue them as MVP caliber the following season
throwback to the stage shock dropped 3 maps total and won it all
Fleta was still MVP calibre in 2021
i am going to say that fleta was still a top player in 2021
and you might disagree
but
fuck you i suppose
He wasn’t mvp caliber unfortunately
more MVP calibre than fucking shu and sparkle
😵💫
shu very good
yeah but like
More deserved nominations than fucking Profit
Very hard carry for glads at numerous times
hahaha
dude profit actually is like
has been an MVP candidate every year except 2019
Shu hype -> Guangzhou team good, Shu leave, Guangzhou ass cheeks
Glads mid, Shu join, Glads balling
he is
best flexible supporter
in overleague
incorrect
it isnt
shu is
2020: Carpe Alarm Viol2t Choi Fleta Void Cr0ng Eileen Xzi Yaki
Who is going into this season a better pick than Shu
shu is flashy player
the best player
not better player
on gladiators
No Profit in 2020
he is bettor
he wasnt in 2020?
shit
than izayaki
i thought he was
Izzy good but Shu better
Nope, all players I listed were
but not alarm
i agree with "levy"
Rare great “Levy” take
alarm is not in right now unfortunately
alarm was goated af
which is why i said
in overleague
shu is probably
currently
Alarm has temporarily retired from professional Overwatch
I agree I think
He will be back in 18 years when reincarnation kicks in
come back in 6 months
like diem and ans

But yeah you are going to say that Fleta was still in mvp convo last year when players like Hanbin, Leave he’ll even LIP who was on his team were just insane
(and striker)
You take any top tier FS from last year and replace izayaki with them, shd results stay nearly identical imo

fleta is a good playor
Laughing because it is better than crying 
solid low S tier playa in IMHO
Fleta can play on the best team in the world and the los angeles valiant and still output the same results
Yeah that’s what I’m going for
Finale clears sadly
he doesn't need a team
finale is a nobody
You’re a nobody
sheeesh
i am a well known analyst
MVP candidates the following season just aren’t mvp candidates anymore so it’s a reasonable thing to think Leave won’t hyper carry Chengdu again
Come on it’s not like Finale was on a mid tier contenders korea team that dominated a weak region and consistently performed as the worst player on said team or anything
fleta will be MVP candidate this year
Mhm, the fleta deadlift
insane player new game hyper flexible
usually half of the mvp candidates are just filler
i agree with "flameknightt"
Whoru is benching Fleta btw
No cause doomfist is a tank now
Genji
imo there really only ends up being less than 5 players than have an actual shot at mvp
Calm down son, global warming can only accept takes under 800 degrees Celsius
thoughts on proper being mvp candidate
👍 based take
could happen
just like my power rankings
i speak only the truth
i think bigger chance it doesnt happen then does happen
The issue is if he becomes mvp caliber, he'll be forced into ROTY instead
and mvp given to someone else
real
since talent is weird when voting
actually so real
Although if a rookie wins MVP they should be given ROTY automatically
kinda like pelican last year
or alarm in previous
who was s3 mvp?
fleta
Just like your borderline unreadable power rankings
ah fleta
not the ultimate insult
Eileen
real and true
the votes as i remember
aint no way carpe was s3 candidate
what you mean
wasnt it like viol2t void also
Main competition was Carpe Alarm Fleta and Void
with a mix of xzi that one day when all the french voters woke up and gave him 700,000 votes in 24 hours
Lip was rookie in s3 yeah?
i think viol2t was ahead of alarm
yes LIP was rookie
But there was a brief period where Paris fans used vote bots to boost the rankings on Xzi
imo alarm/viol2t/void all had better arguments for mvp over fleta in S3
No he wasn’t, after Countdown Cup semis Alarm was leading the rankings with Fleta 2nd Carpe 3rd
imo fuck you flameknight fuck viol2t
cope
Void is my goat
Not Viol2t
But I’d agree with Alarm or Void over Fleta
Viol2t was easily the best FS in that year with only alarm coming close
he had twilight on his team
I don't think Fleta deserved it either lmao over some others
why would he ever play ana
Fuck you suck my dick and balls Alarm was better in every way
that year was all bap zen though
Alarm only had the better ana in s3 over viol2t
Viol2t didn’t have Boombox for double flex support
Viol2t's bapt/zen were unquestionably the best

💀
too bad viol2t falled off next season
god
what an atrocious bap he had
zen was still good tho
Nah Alarm bap zen contested Viol2t mechanically and gamesense, just because he didn’t go hype agressive doesn’t mean he wasn’t better
thoughts on justice v defiant? who gonna win
viol2t can go super aggresive because his team was that good
so you can get more value
i think 3-2 lmao
Both
In S3 I would take Viol2t cause Ana didn't see much competitive play, but in general probably Alarm
Rare great “Levy” take but sadly we need to take into account that Although doesn’t play with the team until June
Ana was meta for like two stages?
that doesnt matter
and the playoffs
I mean Shock won S3 GFs with the Zen instead of Ana, so would take Viol2t still
Fucking hell I am a big Assassin hater but he’s not worse than the dogshit I stood in this morning that got signed as a flex dps named “Finale”
finale oml
I meant May Melee, not grand finals
Ah
May Melee and Countdown Cup 2020 ana was hard meta right?
finale is worst than assassin
wouldnt call it hard meta
but team diff
but yeah ana was choice in CC
With Grand Finals being a choice of ana or zen
uh
ana was not played
in the may melee
That is very fair
And if he gets dived you know it’s a free 6v5 in favour of you
In a Mickey Mouse meta which messed up Fusion alongside Shanghai Paris Charge and Mayhem
he wouldve shit on them too
true and real
classic fusion cope
Fusion are shit lmao argue with the other teams I named
they are the best team u just named
Dragons beat Shock
but shanghai performed to expectations
based
No I don’t
unfortunate
we dont but i think they had a very very good chance
But Shock aren’t a guaranteed win
maybe they woudn't have lost to seoul
Or even favourites
if any team in any meta wouldve beaten 2020 shock it was dragons in a dive/sombra meta
Not maybe, Seoul had one good meta and it was Grand Finals, anything else they would’ve lost that playoff slot to Charge or NYXL
^
I say maybe cause you can't guarantee anything in future scenarios, but yeah I think Seoul was kinda like Washington where they got 1 good meta
Correction
if you actually watch the games
which i know you dont
they were already looking better before the playoffs
unlucky
Seoul besting NYXL was not a surprise after they proved they were dominant in the new Mickey Mouse meta
damn
you are misremembering how good NYXL looked at the end of the year
you cant read
Seoul besting Charge on the other hand
seoul looked better
literally before the playoffs
3-0
memory loss moment
Was a shocker
if you think seoul looked better during the countdown cup u are crazy
the games after countdown cup
Didn’t Seoul lose in the first round
???
the 4-5
...
How many non 3-0s do you all have for week 1 pickems?
Their next opponent was 2020 Hunters
And then proceeded to get 4-0’d by Dragons
nyxl did better than seoul in the tournament
the games after countdown cup seoul looked like the second best team
so its really not a surprise
And they did better than Spark
Since they not only beat a better team
hehe
Levy I spend an uncomfortable amount of time rewatching old games and Contenders
Don’t spread obvious misinformation
Fucking NA Andy
anyways
dragons only team that wouldve won in any meta during their respective playoffs runs
🇯🇪
its sad that you claim to do that
How many non 3-0s do you all have for week 1 pickems?
Imagine telling the truth only for some Canadian kid that prejacs at the thought of Profit to tell you that you’re a liar
there were games after the CC?
Thoughts on Outlaws v Defiant?
isnt that just playoffs
yes
using where im from as an insult when you're british, curious
^
canadians smh
Before or after Although rejoins the team?
I've only done tomorrow's matches as I want to see what sort of meta it is before making decisions on other teams - I have all 3-1s tomorrow
i like how he took offense to the canadian part and not the cooming over profit though
for the next week lol
insecure about canadian
3-1 Outlaws best case scenario for Defiant
I'm thinking Outlaws 3-2
i have 3-2 defiant
but depending on meta, could be different
mmmm
3-2 win for outlaws imo
that's tragic
If you value your points you will change that
imo sans
Levy
its really unfortunate
like if Genji is as meta as people say then I might put 3-0 fuel v outlaws instead of 3-1
nah i meant
That’s cool and all, but sadly they play against Fusion with their opening match buff
||i honestly think dallas has the most overrated dps line out of the top 4 NA teams|| <- Hot Take
go study
they are top 4 because they have a guy named hanbin on their team
I'm not talking about hanbin
talking about the DPS line
i know
fuel damage line
Dallas dps very mid
not very good
im saying their dps line is not why they are top 4
but rest of team
lol
goated
yeah
But dallas still win
yeah i 100% agree
hanbeen fearles ver good
only sparkle needs to be good
Because they overperform
people still underrate doha it seems
they also had
Talent
mid tier dps
not underrate doha or sparkle
line last year
the other one is a lobby filler
doha is just bad
doha is bad
dallas dps lineup is probably worse than houstons ngl
Doha sucks
lol
spackle is IMHO high A tier player
So much
it is
sparkle is A yes
Doha was the weakest player on dallas after jecse
not S
Sparkle A, Doha and rest of Dallas DPS B
he got diffed so incredibly hard
dps line*
Doha jecksay are very bad but now jeckesay is gone
so doha only weak link
Not really, only one of their dps is S tier
Rascal
Sp9rk1e is S tier, idk how you can argue against that
He's not
What character is sparkle elite at besides Genji
Depending on how reserved your definition of S tier is I can understand why some people aren’t convinced by his tracer and echo
who do you have as S tier then
if sp9 was s tier i would have too many playors s tier
I however am convinced and do rate him S
if not Sp9rk1e
proper, lip, leave, fleta upon others like peli and kev
leave propah pelican kevsta fleta is my personal S tier
Lip?
lip is not a flex damage player
it happens
Hey you’re not allowed to say Proper he hasn’t played in the league yet so he is an unproven therefore not good player
ffs...
OML surely proper will be worse than the rest of the S Tier DPS cause he is a rookie!
Sp9rk1e would be the lower end of S tier for sure but he is S tier
Put MN3 in S tier and it’s golden
now that doom is taken away
in what world does sparkle have any elite characters
besides genji
Sym
Hell his soldier was good
his soldier is not S tier lol
You can make an argument for pharah but for me, he's not S tier
Neither is Profits
only reason why dallas will be successful is because rest of dallas is goated and they have hive mind
And soldier irrelevant
His tracer and echo are at least A tier
yes but not S
Nero didn’t have Jecse and Doha
thats based
Dallas had whimsy buff last season
?
if sparkle is s tier than striker is s tier
Sandbag stage????
you are so salty about profits its getting butthurt lmao
soldier not irrelevant anymore
what can be so hard about solider tho
He won't be playing solidier
he might
Over genji
if Doha is on Genji
I’m not the guy debating wether to take Fits or EQO on sombra
I think it'd be a crime if sparkle isnt on his only elite character and doha doesn't get the easier character
sparkle sym elite
lol who is doing that
Uvalo
Sym very niche meta, irrelevant 2 me as of now
Yeah in May Melee 2020 and 2021
Otherwise no
God no
hardly niche when it basically became the meta in NA
every team learned sym rush
Twice*
Never forget symm junk rush which resulted in the Birdring Teleporter RIP-TIRE of 2020
That's fair but Sym won't be played on OWL matches for week 1
the best sym was d*cay
🤮
Goat1 >>> NF(ga)T(or)
Chadam >>> Fraudk
Xzi >>> Kyle
Hydrogen >>> Sigma (OTP!!)
Chadmate >>>>> Zero + Freelo
Anamo
SirMajed + Goatriv >>>>> UltraFraud
if the meta is what it sounds like: Genji, Soldier, Doom, Ana, Lucio - Dallas looks nasty
Sure?
Doom Ana Lucio is cracked for Dallas
but Doha might hold back on the solider
Anyways that’s my thesis on Florida 3-0 Atlanta
doha played soldier last year
i like gator
and Hawk
as an overwatch league player
he invented GOATs
NFTs
nothing more needs to be said
NFTs Normans
Holy based snorlax, Batman
Thoughts on O2 Blast tank players?
Junbin would easily be in the league if he wasn’t underage
I don’t see F4ZE or Max making it in before the goat Clestyn though
He isn’t that good
Also how did Shock and Fusion look at their academy teams
junbin is way better than kellan
And somehow think “hmm yes I want to have this team but weaker”
Junbin just ball one play carried by propah
It’s NoHill SZN
I think if Shock play their cards right and keep the essential players and promote the right players from O2 blast like Heesang, their S6 could be really good
I will die on the hill that O2 Blast and T1 were better than 2022 Shock and Fusion
Although >> S9mm
Season 6 isn’t real
Sometimes I don’t think too
There’s an argument for them to be equal which I would accept
Untrue
ChiYo >>>> Viol2t main support
Nobody smart agrees with that claim
I’m willing to change opinion on that but one slight advantage isn’t enough imo
I thought hawk wasn't involved with NFTs
max not > coluge
If that were true
Krillin > Aimgod
no shit lol
Trust me, Philly coaching is off the goop
source?
At this moment in time no but I’m still correct
thats what ive been saying
Source: signing Fury Belosrea FiXa over Clestyn Sado Sanguinar
Correct as in? Incredibly wrong
Unlike Belosrea, Sado is an upgrade to Mano
Sado is a good player
And I have not seen one good argument that shows him not being one
He played on a mid level with a shit support duo shit off tank and shit flex dps so that makes him the problem for not carrying a bottom 5 NA team
-some brainless Shock fan, probably.
I’m p sure it’s humble
He was better than JJANGGU Mano
And the argument was there that he was better flexibility wise than Mag
haha cum
I take a low A tier main tank over a low C tier main tank
Y’know, the low C tier main tank that actively forced rush
Against Kellan and Junbin
Because he was inferior to them in every way possible
Belosrea is not very impressive
Perfect signing for a team with title aspirations
sans opinion on belosrea???
Charge your phone
The quotation marks are vital for context
i do
yes
uvalo lives there
Can we talk about Kenobi’s Ecopoint Podcast available on Spotify and YouTube?
birmingham has significant importance to the history of the United States of America
can we talk about how excited i am for owl
yes!
Yes I do, Birmingham is where Peaky Blinders was set
what is a peeky blinder
I bought some snacks, drinks and lube for tommorow
why do people say those words
its a series
why would u need 1 of those 3 things
what is it do?
Your mother
sans is so mean via text
I blinder with my peaky cock in her eye
but a fucking chump in vc
“Hey baby what’s your name”
It’s 11 and I’m sleeping go fuck yourself nobody loves you and Naga will get fdps diffed by MVP candidate Proper tomorrow at 9:30 pm BST
take your meds
I don’t pretend to have a gf
neither do i
Ian you’re a dislikable person don’t act like you get laid
I DO
I’m too tired to laugh and recreate the Iancel jokes
Ian + Incel
i thought you were gonna say drop your pants
dont sans, memeicus will bomb your house
he cant because UK isn't in the schengen area anymore
Remember Memeicus
scherngen zone
If you bomb my house
My nan suffers as a result

ew
And will no longer be able to watch her favourite players Sparky Fearless Carpe and Kevster
Imagine not being a Defiant fan.
FUCK KEVSTER
fuck kevster
Physically could not be me
I want to bomb your house even more
Memeicus wanna go on a date
we can go to the new doctor strange movie and hold hands
Ah yes I’m definitely gonna drop that address now
Right after I drop my pants for your mother
ohshit, first match is 2pm my time
Now let me sleep
Better NYXL takes a map with Vulcan
those matches doesnt seems fair lol
We will see soon!
Sure!
yea i bet she pegs u
I'll drop my address if mayhem finish top 3 NA
bro what the fuck is wrong witb you
why did you get so offended at the notion that someone could get pegged
lack of drive to pursue anything in life, lack of self-discipline,
inability to enjoy things in life
rapidly degrading memory and verbal communication capabilities
damage to mental state from being solitary for too many years
by their mother?!
sorry im not into incest
ok
Sans and Memeicus are not related
thank GOD
god some people are just so stupid...
probably a forgoodking alt
???
no need for u to get all mad when u misread the sentence
hold this L for me
me misreading the sentence made it something to be weirded out by dummy
they really arent lmao
no way first day of owl has all 3-0s
hold this "eichenwalde castle is also modelled off of a real-life castle so we can infer height estimates from there" for me
god i just want one of the s tier dps in owl to stream rn on twitch im so bored
theres only like 5 S tier dps atm
4 actually
in 2021 it was like LIP leave pelican fleta
mhm so im asking for a lot
Paris and London both stomp shock opening weekend
Lol
Any team that has proper
Is not getting swept
Proper with 5 golds against shanghai
He will still get a map
but not consistently
lip or leave could cancel out the proper effect in a midseason madness game
or one team could have a better meta read post-patch
No one cancels out the proper tax
Shanghai dragons vs Shock re-rematch midseason madness
(another 3-0)
There may be a proper tax but Coach Moon hasn't paid taxes in the last 13 years
Not gonna start now
and also
Wrong
the lip subsidy

