everyone else is shit
#esports-discussion
cunning patrol
no he is not
willow drum
based avast holy tru and real "dont care didn't asked" reinforce
balmy wolf
oh and now i do apac
hot onyx
Who is above?
willow drum
omg L reinforce takes
willow drum
Reinforce L take
gusty rampart
It's cr0ng
noble nexus
north relic
call in gnj
devout path
balmy wolf
thats good
hot onyx
https://twitter.com/veik_/status/1521567864947310593?s=21 i found Ian’s twitter
Twitter
balmy wolf
ok
balmy wolf
https://twitter.com/veik_/status/1521567864947310593?s=21 i found Ian’s twitter
holy thats a bad take
willow drum
https://twitter.com/veik_/status/1521567864947310593?s=21 i found Ian’s twitter
what a dogshit take
devout path
You don’t need to ask to ask that’s just wasting everyone time
plush grail
shut the fuck up
hot onyx
opinions on belarus
You know the opinions already you failed abortion
devout path
Learn how to ask questions
plush grail
You know the opinions already you failed abortion
?????
cedar oasis
who is that godly rein in the video
hot onyx
And the second worst main tank in apac
north relic
who is that godly rein in the video
why do you shatter bob
cedar oasis
i was having fun
hot onyx
i was having fun
In my ranked game
plush grail
i dont have fun when i play with u
hot onyx
When is it not my fault?
north relic
also sans why did you dive a valking mercy when she was off the map
how did i ever win games with you guys
my dps SR is getting held back
hot onyx
also sans why did you dive a valking mercy when she was off the map
I was on like 100hp, soldier was shooting me and mercy was a melee away from dying so I took a chance at a trade
cedar oasis
that day sans was very annoying so i locked rein and ran it down mid
plush grail
ur always annoying
hot onyx
true Ian
north relic
I was on like 100hp, soldier was shooting me and mercy was a melee away from dyi...
so you commited jump
when you could have retreated?
north relic
do the knuckle shortjump flipkick tech
hot onyx
Ian died as ana anyway
So I thought to reset and go into the next fight with an advantage over their mercy
hot onyx
Yes let’s
plush grail
i will post a vid of you calling uvalo a slur
cedar oasis
now that i watch the video back
hot onyx
There is a heavy difference between individual hatred and group hatred
cedar oasis
what did i shatter there
plush grail
nothing
cedar oasis
huh
plush grail
u were fucking throwing
hot onyx
nothing
earnest leaf
plat chat power rankings
twilit oriole
Move defiant to where outlaws is
north relic
its the plat chat rankings
balmy wolf
i hate platchat now
devout path
plat chat power rankings
What da hell is that bottom
balmy wolf
i want #4 shock at least
devout path
Platchat rankings r always the most important
cedar oasis
nyxl 16th?
balmy wolf
oh
devout path
Not the best
devout path
Philly get down from there
plush grail
all i know is
devout path
It’s dangerous
plush grail
u all fucking suck at life
devout path
u all fucking suck at life
Says u
cedar oasis
u all fucking suck at life
ur dutch
north relic
dutch speak just make random sounds and act like they understand eachother
north relic
ian uses sleep and nade into a rein shield
he is doing valuable dmg to rein shield
dart does a whole 5 dmg
cedar oasis
nade?
gusty rampart
100
bleak lily
Tank: Hanbin
Flex DPS: Proper
Hitscan: Ans
Flex Support: Fielder
Main Support: Chorong
Best NA team
twilit oriole
north relic
Tank: Hanbin
Flex DPS: Proper
Hitscan: Ans
Flex Support: Fielder
Main Support: C...
kai/xzi/flora better than ans tbh
earnest leaf
Here's what I would say
For widow/ashe/cree
between kai/ans/xzi imo they all are super good at 1 and a bit worse at others
ans is the best widow of the three, xzi is the best cree, and kai seems to have the better ashe of those 3
bleak lily
kai/xzi/flora better than ans tbh
Have you seen Ans’s peak?
north relic
unfortunately ans is not at his peak
like i would be a lot higher on mayhem if both of their supports were at their peak
cunning patrol
Kai xzi and flora all demolish ans
north relic
worn falcon
aka bad
worn falcon
justice is overrated
frosty patrol
Tank: Hanbin
Flex DPS: Proper
Hitscan: Ans
Flex Support: Fielder
Main Support: C...
hanbin kai proper chorong fielder imo
cedar oasis
and every other good team has problems
worn falcon
same as shock
frosty patrol
but yeah
white berry
Spark best
balmy wolf
based
frosty patrol
justice are underdogs
cedar oasis
spark number 1 apac team that shits the bed
frosty patrol
they’re considered mid NA but if you buy opener assassin stock you could say justice top 4 NA
frosty patrol
who is the best NA team anyway
fuel
balmy wolf
i see
frosty patrol
but if you ask bowol it’s mayhem
worn falcon
good supports
frosty patrol
psych ward insane
bleak lily
Chorong
willow drum
these rankings are so bad im sorry
i agree!
very unbased!
thoughts on a potential heesang proper kilo dps line for shock next year?
willow drum
tbh better than yours
not high standard
earnest leaf
best power rankings
wild cape
weird shock placement but the rest i fuck with
earnest leaf
I think shock anywhere top 4 na is reasonable
wild cape
i have really low expectations for SF tbh
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pov: you have never watched proper
willow drum
pov: you dont know who proper is
wild cape
when all you can say about how a team is good is one player that’s not very convincing
earnest leaf
They'll have a perma 4 man starting line up with only one position being rotated during the year
I think that will help them tons with synergy and working together as the year goes on
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here's why
earnest leaf
And having everyone in a defined role makes it easier for them to focus on what they need to be good at
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shock will be top 4
earnest leaf
No weird crusty crackpipe shit
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- they have proper on their team
willow drum
lets hear levys based take
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- see #1
earnest leaf
Their dps are really good and everything i've heard about someone makes me rate him highly
willow drum
I think I would take Proper Kilo S9mm over Danteh Mer1t Pelican
I have no faith in a Sigma 1T to play Doomfist.
Shock's Support line is better than Outlaws
Coaching + Synergy Diff
earnest leaf
Sirmajed is also decently hyped, anamo will give them a decent baseline of MS play whenever needed
Kariv is uh
meh
willow drum
plays like I do in valorant
cunning patrol
Majed sucks
willow drum
just afk
kariv might actually b the best support player on mayhem
but ig it might be excusable
twin bloom
Majed sucks
No he doesn't
willow drum
cause supports are weaker as of now
cunning patrol
Imho he is not Best Saudi Arabian player
north relic
what happened to bastion hat
frosty patrol
ksaa best saudi player
frosty patrol
Has he ever played in NA or Korean contenders
NA yes
bobby wasabi
twice in saudi eleagues
frosty patrol
thrice*
he was on 250 ping in NA but still looked good
that said
it's NA contenders
so
translates to mid OWL or lower
(exceptions to that rule are some AT members and then like venom)
willow drum
where do u think o2 blast translates to owl
frosty patrol
depends on the o2 player
proper? s tier
kilo? b tier
finn? a+
vindaim and chiyo? a
everyone is b or higher that made owl
bleak lily
Best player to come from NA was Alarm
frosty patrol
best north american player to come from NA was like
frosty patrol
corey maybe for being a top 3 hard hitscan and then just leaving
frosty patrol
Unless you count space or danteh
had to be in NA contenders
hot onyx
had to be in NA contenders
Easily Dalton
sullen berry
Twitter
frosty patrol
nah bro it was roolf
sullen berry
Channeling sans with this tweet
Since you aren't on Twitter I think it was meant for anyone still supporting Philly this year
hot onyx
Channeling successful
Watching the Fusion fans unload in tears as their average at best roster doesn’t win anything worthwhile for the 5th season is gonna be a bittersweet experience
Bitter because Fusion fans deserve better
Sweet because I seem to be the only human on the planet that rates Belosrea FiXa Aimgod where they belong
And I enjoy it when I am correct
hot onyx
beautiful because valiant will be better than fusion this year
Calm down son, not even Hadi gets diffed by Sasin main tank
But other than that
How do you fit this much delusion and denial into one living organism?
Maybe we get a good main tank next year
cunning patrol
they are correct imho
hot onyx
After all Fusion does only get a good main tank once every three years
sullen berry
Based halo of balding ass thoughts about valorant - Sayaplayer having a good run over there https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1521413271693279233?t=BYO-gDyGIfmn-XQSMrTeOQ&s=19
sullen berry
That aside I consider it enjoyable to be able to rate seoul and fusion a lot lower
sullen berry
Last VCT event
next mesa
mmmm
sullen berry
🤔
hot onyx
sullen berry
Could be the name that you're thinking in the back of your mind
next mesa
its insane
sullen berry
Babybay smeagin' - a brand icon after two challengers and one masters event
Berlin Ws from his time on Faze
Could he see himself bringing it back when OW2 PvP officially returns, doubtful
next mesa
nah hes not coming back imo
twin bloom
Even during season 3 when he played for Reign he was average
Nah Lmao
hot onyx
Unless Nohill decides he’s had enough of China, moves Valiant back to NA and signs a bunch of western players that haven’t played professionally in 2 years instead of chinese and korean
hot onyx
He was hard diffing ans
Team diff imo
sullen berry
Yeah and I just find no amount of years playing in the background is worth the abysmal pay he's had despite a stable OWL career to retire on his own terms
hot onyx
Reign got 3-0d that match
Unlucky
frosty patrol
Sweet because I seem to be the only human on the planet that rates Belosrea FiXa...
no I rate them properly too
fixa sucks
aimgod is
sullen berry
Riot and their sponsors is hard cash to give up, but I'd expect his performance to be about the same if he came back in less than 2 years time
hot onyx
People rate Aimgod on the same level as Creatuve
sullen berry
Aimgod doesn't carry as hard, but you can see it when they win a match because of his clutch Ana/Zen plays
hot onyx
In that cursed land known as Fusion discord
sullen berry
But he really do be peaking as often as Contenders Aztac
hot onyx
Aztac is better than Aimgod could ever wish to be?
hot onyx
My guy kept Valentine IM37 Faith and Zebag alive
hot onyx
And got benched for Lastro
frosty patrol
single handedly
hot onyx
aspire masaa aztac
And sHockWave for backup
sullen berry
Aztac really been overrated in my eyes, individually he is great, but pop off material is not the same even before OWL
frosty patrol
my favorite part of the platchat power rankings episode is where they imply admiral is significantly better than masaa
hot onyx
his team was getting dogged
Unlucky meta, any other time Reign diff Shock
Unless you’re deluded enough to believe Striker > Edison
frosty patrol
lol
cunning patrol
okay
frosty patrol
babybay was the bright spot of reign
hot onyx
C tier*
sullen berry
I really do enjoy how they left out two team previews to dog them down at the bottom where they belong
frosty patrol
when he left they had to rely on occasional step-ups from other players
like that one time dogman was the best moira in owl for an hour and a half
then fell off hard the day after
hot onyx
At least I’m making the bait obvious while being creative enough to be worthwhile
hot onyx
I really do enjoy how they left out two team previews to dog them down at the bo...
Ain’t no way they dogged Titans at the bottom
“Yeah guys Masaa was a grand finalist we talked about how he’s underrated, sHockWave and Aspire were some of the best players on their mid teams, False dominated NA Contenders, let’s place them bottom 3 NA”
frosty patrol
they had titans 19
they talked about how masaa was a grand finalist, how aspire and shockwave are a nasty dps duo, and proceeded to say
titans 19 charge 18
twin bloom
Idk how titans are so underrated and mayhem so overrated
frosty patrol
masaa is the GOAT of lucios in the north american region
frosty patrol
Idk how titans are so underrated and mayhem so overrated
did you hear? bowol has mayhem 3rd NA
literal lunacy
plush grail
u all suck
gusty rampart
Performance wise
Florida Mayhem=Paris Eternal 2020
willow tartan
u mean Dallas fuel 2021 = paris eternal 2020?
gusty rampart
I meant in terms of how they'll do
frosty patrol
Performance wise
Florida Mayhem=Paris Eternal 2020
eternal were top 4 overall in 2020
tf you mean mate
you have mayhem top 4 overall
worse than bowol
deluded
gusty rampart
Wait were they?
frosty patrol
yes
frosty patrol
lol
gusty rampart
Well NA was doggy tbh
willow tartan
I think across all owl seasons 2020 is probably the most one sided season (in the sense of how many teams gapped the rest)
beats out 2019 because 2019 had rolelock change + stage 3
well then again 2020 had summer showdown and playoffs wack
Stage 1 was pretty close as well actually both regions
frosty patrol
and playoffs wack was cool
willow tartan
Still wack
willow tartan
I need OWL
frosty patrol
2 days
willow tartan
Every day I go without owl I age 5x as fast
gusty rampart
The whole Hog meta 2020 playoffs was both good and bad
While it did make it more entertaining throwing teams that were okay or bad up to the top i.e. Washington and Seoul but also fucked over teams like Paris and Florida
willow tartan
Washington is not "okay"
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Not to mention they lost to shock dive
willow tartan
Plz do not sugarcoat it
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I mean Philly dive
willow tartan
While it did make it more entertaining throwing teams that were okay or bad up t...
It was bad and bad. The meta was shit on its own and the drastic meta shift meant that the previous stage and partially the season as a whole became meaningless.
north relic
@balmy wolf what happened?
gusty rampart
Someone's mad Shanghai didn't win 2020
willow tartan
Yes I am mad but also it was still shit Shanghai ignored
gusty rampart
Shock honestly deserved to win
willow tartan
map 5 with stand1 btw
willow tartan
It's not that he's bad lol
gusty rampart
He wasn't the worst
willow tartan
Its the fact that Shanghai had to change over to a main tank they haven't played with for 3 stages
gusty rampart
It didn't help LJG threw Oasis
willow tartan
anyways, shock didn't really adapt IMO. their players were just already good lol
gusty rampart
Shock just at the time was kinda better I feel? Void and LIP hadn't reached their full potential
willow tartan
Viol2t zen, ans widow, striker tracer/Hanzo,
gusty rampart
anyways, shock didn't really adapt IMO. their players were just already good lol
I mean playing super kinda felt almost risky, he was benched for most of 2020
gusty rampart
And super fucking dominated
willow tartan
Someone's gotta play the roadhog lol
gusty rampart
Choi honestly probably wouldn't have done bad on Hog
north relic
Someone's gotta play the roadhog lol
isnt adam the off tank though
willow tartan
I mean saying he dominated is a stretch of the word
twin bloom
I mean saying he dominated is a stretch of the word
He did
Gesture got gapped
By him
Despite commen misconception
gusty rampart
Creative and Tobi at their peaks
I don't even remember their off tank tbh LOL
It was Marve1 right?
He played the sig I think
twin bloom
Also crestive ana is better than viogoat
willow tartan
Still got gapped by the fact that viol2t could play zen and they had striker
twin bloom
And ana was the meta
willow tartan
What I'm saying is
gusty rampart
Profit kinda gapped Striker a little on the Hanzo
willow tartan
Gesture hog skill difference between super is not very big
So you can't say dominated
twin bloom
It was big imo
willow tartan
I think in seo v sfs matchup the biggest differences is viol2t and choi
gusty rampart
I need to go back and watch Fusions pathetic final 4 play offs matches
cunning patrol
Shock just at the time was kinda better I feel? Void and LIP hadn't reached thei...
Void had
Him and viol2t
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Gesture got gapped on like 1-2 maps in the finals for sure
cunning patrol
Best players of 2020
gusty rampart
Fair but I feel Void was better in 2021
willow tartan
no shit
twin bloom
Gesture got gapped on like 1-2 maps in the finals for sure
He did
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But imo gesture was the more dominant hog throughout the whole thing
twin bloom
Super hog was much better
cunning patrol
Every top analyst knows izayaki lip and ljg were the main improvers of 2021
willow tartan
idk man maybe I remembered it differently to you guys
twin bloom
Just seoul apologists claim otherwize
twin bloom
Every top analyst knows izayaki lip and ljg were the main improvers of 2021
Every top tier analyst already knew lip was the goat
willow tartan
but gesture was a very oppressive roadhog
twin bloom
Well before 2021
gusty rampart
"Gesture was better" 🤓🤓🤓
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And fits gaps
twin bloom
Its just people who were mad lip benched diem
cunning patrol
Every top tier analyst already knew lip was the goat
He was good
twin bloom
Who was majorly washed
gusty rampart
Gesture hasn't been good since 2018 wake up
cunning patrol
But not as good
cunning patrol
Who was majorly washed
Shut your mouth
willow tartan
I never said he was or wasnt better. I just think that you can't say super dominates him on that hero LOL
cunning patrol
Diem owned every time he played
twin bloom
He didn't
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Diem owned every time he played
I agree
willow tartan
Diem went super saiyan during the playoffs idk what you're talking about
cunning patrol
Show me one map
cunning patrol
Diem gapped happy despite
gusty rampart
Diem fucked in play offs
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Lol
twin bloom
Show me one map
Every map he played
gusty rampart
Can we all just accept Fate>Fearless?
twin bloom
Diem gapped happy despite
Shut up
cunning patrol
Uninformed take
twin bloom
Happy is the goat
cunning patrol
Suck
cunning patrol
They aren’t
cunning patrol
Mn30000
cunning patrol
And ansansniper
cunning patrol
Are better aimers than happy
twin bloom
Who say otherwise
twin bloom
And ansansniper
Ans🤣
gusty rampart
Fearless didn't win with the same team Fate had 😹😹
twin bloom
Imagine not being a top tier wrecking wheel
willow tartan
I think Fate being an enabler instead of a carry allowed for a lot more room for izayaki leejaegon and LIP to shine
twin bloom
Happy is a generational talent
Stuck on justass
And had to deal with
Funkjunk
And garga
willow tartan
Because I think those three really did well in 21
next mesa
Fearless didn't win with the same team Fate had 😹😹
Uh
Lip LJG and izayaki all improved a lot tho
Sooo
Hot take
But really not
Fearless stays on shanghai
They still win s4
willow tartan
I mean
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If those 3 players still improve
willow tartan
That doesn't make ball not meta
Shanghai would have to countercomp or force fearless on ball
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That doesn't make ball not meta
It doesn't matter
twin bloom
It does
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They win with dive
twin bloom
Compared to wrecking wheel
willow tartan
I mean dragons could skill gap
twin bloom
Was on a nother level
willow tartan
But would be a lot closer
twin bloom
Fusion did too
Both were bad compared to top NA brawl teams
willow tartan
fym
willow tartan
Stage 1 fusion and dragons on brawl could match up with top NA brawl teams
willow tartan
Nah, I saw for myself the amount of godness that Void has in brawl comps
twin bloom
Look individually shanghai with fearless should be good at brawl
bleak lily
Dragons brawl was not that good
willow tartan
He and the dragons backline are just so coordinated it's unreal
twin bloom
Just no apac teams really play brawl
bleak lily
They abandoned it for a reason
next mesa
Look individually shanghai with fearless should be good at brawl
Agree individually
bleak lily
Fate is also a bad Rein player
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Mechanics not everything
Agree
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Fate is
bleak lily
Fate rein isn't bad
??
twin bloom
Agree
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A smarter player
bleak lily
It’s terrible
bleak lily
It was so bad on the Mayhem he got benched for that one dude
twin bloom
Imho
willow tartan
?????
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Fate rein is not horrible
bleak lily
And then on the Dragons he got hard diffed
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I agree
willow tartan
Didn't watch 2021 confirmed
bleak lily
In fact Fate is overrated
twin bloom
In fact Fate is overrated
He is underated
bleak lily
2020 his rein in Goats was devastating to his team
twin bloom
2020 his rein in Goats was devastating to his team
Kuki lucio
willow tartan
GOATs in 2020?
bleak lily
Then in 2021 he got benched on Rein for Karagan? What was his name?
twin bloom
Fate ia underrated
bleak lily
Who the f was that dude
twin bloom
Imho
twin bloom
Fate and super were the best Main tanks
From the ow 1 era
Yet people still meme em
Very sad
bleak lily
Sorry I’m a year behind
willow tartan
I would like to say Mano makes the list but I can already hear sans screaming into oblivion
twin bloom
I would like to say Mano makes the list but I can already hear sans screaming in...
Fate and super were good their whole career
willow tartan
All time, Mano is up there
bleak lily
2020 he got benched for Karayan on Rein
willow tartan
Yeah but still though
bleak lily
Mano never had a good coaching staff
twin bloom
Backline
willow tartan
Not many tanks have been good their whole career
twin bloom
Mano never had a good coaching staff
Ninek
willow tartan
S4 visa issues so
twin bloom
Not many tanks have been good their whole career
Fate and super have
Even fearless tbh
He was good on s1 shanghai
bleak lily
Ninek
Ninek when he came in with little time before the season and Ninek didn’t get to show anything last year
willow tartan
Fearless didn't play for 2019 you can't count him
twin bloom
Ninek when he came in with little time before the season and Ninek didn’t get to...
He made a team with 3 ringers
Go 4-0
willow tartan
He also got full held by the valiant
willow tartan
When they were sandbagging yes
willow tartan
He also donked the Seoul dynasty and gave me hope that they might beat shock (because I hate shock)
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In no particular order
willow tartan
And I mean it was close before they threw
which team do you think on average, fusion fans hate the most?
willow tartan
why shock
earnest leaf
for making them their bitches in s3
willow tartan
shock can't count because everyone hates shock
what other fanbase likes the shock fanbase
earnest leaf
probably none
willow tartan
It's always shock primary team and other team secondary supporter, rather than other team primary team and shock a secondary team to support
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I support shock occasionally
And I hope crusty and ninek does not waste propers talents
frosty patrol
shock can't count because everyone hates shock
nyxl
because season 1 rivalry
and jjonak vs alarm
well
that's not hatred
friendly rivalry
moreso
willow tartan
well obviously I don't mean actual hatred
frosty patrol
I have actual hatred towards london
and shock
moreso shock
shock fans are subhuman
frosty patrol
I do not have the capacity for hatred
neither can I
trim shadow
After ruining seasons and hopes 2 seasons in a row?
trim shadow
I despise houston fans for the simple fact they godified Muma and other shennagins
willow tartan
Everyone has their reasons to do shit, I can't blame em.
frosty patrol
I despise houston fans for the simple fact they godified Muma and other shennagi...
I mean
muma in his 2 months of good was pretty good
then he fell off hard
north relic
S3 toilet bowl was his peak
trim shadow
good lord s1 talent level was so…
frosty patrol
hey hey hey
trim shadow
Eh?
willow tartan
power ranking mike asked me to post. make fun of him as you will
frosty patrol
NOT in the same league as those people
twin bloom
Even in s1
frosty patrol
top 3 maintank in his day
trim shadow
power ranking mike asked me to post. make fun of him as you will
Ayo what is that valiant ranking
This is a valiant fan
frosty patrol
power ranking mike asked me to post. make fun of him as you will
not me
frosty patrol
fragi top 3 in his day
trim shadow
fragi probably wouldve had a longer career if a certain dps didnt gatekeep him apperantly
frosty patrol
and by in his day I mean he was the 3rd best maintank on the 2 rosters playing during stage 2 finals that wasn't suspended for boosting
twin bloom
fragi probably wouldve had a longer career if a certain dps didnt gatekeep him a...
Carpe likes playing with good players
Sadly
trim shadow
Fragi’s rein was probably the best back then and i will die on this hill
willow tartan
U guys r forgetting roshan
north relic
power ranking mike asked me to post. make fun of him as you will
Is this levy
willow tartan
Can't be levy, spark are far too low
frosty patrol
no
it's
american toast, the valiant loving US patriot
which is an
interesting combination
frosty patrol
no
willow tartan
You can't post power rankings yet, wait until valiant completes their roster by signing apr1ta farway and clestyn
willow tartan
Nohills strategy is to sign enough players so that each DPS can one trick a hero
Massively boosting their individual skill on one hero
therefore making meh talent better
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lmao first try
north relic
Mike rankings
north relic
lmao first try
I got glads
gusty rampart
I got Justice
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about to move them above spark
based
frosty patrol
Mike rankings
(they're actually my rankings this time)
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Mike rankings
his is a good ranking imo
north relic
His is almost the same as mine
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north relic
Except nyxl is higher for me
north relic
Do you take gator hawk or space Reiner
trim shadow
Mike rankings
Hangzhou is a little high but solid
frosty patrol
Do you take gator hawk or space Reiner
space reiner but offtank is equal
how is hangzhou high
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Do you take gator hawk or space Reiner
i take speedily nero venom kai over kevster ans pati
frosty patrol
at 9th
willow tartan
Do you take gator hawk or space Reiner
can i take hawk reiner
north relic
i take speedily nero venom kai over kevster ans pati
Support line tank line probably better imo
willow tartan
actuyally nvm ists 5v5
north relic
fastro > ojee
shu > UV
reign dps diff
space =< hawk
reiner >= gator
north relic
https://preds.slmn.io/pr/owl2020?share=b_WzUsMTQsIkItQSIsOSwxNiwxLDIsMTgsIkItQiI...
this u?
frosty patrol
no way you have spitfire above spark and valiant
trim shadow
I need to see them play everytime u read hangzhou on paper they sound spectacular but find the most magnificent ways to eat shit
frosty patrol
spark is good
valiant has players that aren't complete shit and has nohill
diya and lengsa > anything london has to offer
also
willow drum
lmao first try
i got that 2 lol
frosty patrol
charge below london
trim shadow
Spitfire isnt above spark they are just separate cause they are the one team i have to see play and i dont wanna rank cause i dont wanna hype them up or rank them down?
frosty patrol
you have half of APAC as the bottom 3 teams in the league and all are below london
you cannot get more xenophobic
north relic
Ill throw that out
boston overrated imo
willow drum
you cannot get more xenophobic
based as hell
trim shadow
They are the perfrct even record team
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trim shadow
They show up play fantastic and next game they play like shit
willow drum
??? boston does not deserve 2 be high
frosty patrol
he has spark valiant charge as his bottom 3 teams 🤦♂️
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based predictions
trim shadow
So effectively they are the mid table gatekeeper
willow drum
Seoul high
trim shadow
he has spark valiant charge as his bottom 3 teams 🤦♂️
I keep telling u hangzhou isnt ranked 
frosty patrol
even then
valiant charge below spitfire
UNFORGIVABLE
VALIANT AND CHARGE HAVE SOME DECENT PLAYERS
NAME LONDONS TALENT
willow drum
with ur mom
she has a horrible opinion on drugs sadly
trim shadow
The thing is sparkr backbone just has more “taste” then trusting eileen to be elite and diya to carry a. Subpar valiant team
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The thing is sparkr backbone just has more “taste” then trusting eileen to be el...
wow
you are so wrong
first of all
frosty patrol
backbone is the worst fdps in the league
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choisehwan
frosty patrol
sparkr is not even above average
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is literally A tier
willow drum
"taste" ??
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he clears backbone
trim shadow
chois injured last i heard
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agree
frosty patrol
easily
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becky would clear him
trim shadow
Plus london is basically the same team they were in contenders
willow drum
backbone can clear proper!! backbone is best DPS in league!! trust the london stocks!!
frosty patrol
the london spitfire have
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Plus london is basically the same team they were in contenders
which was shit
trim shadow
They wont be title fighting but they have “something”
willow drum
They wont be title fighting but they have “something”
no they dont
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They wont be title fighting but they have “something”
what is this argument
trim shadow
Valiant? Diya…A support or two
willow drum
nohill exists ??
who coaches london lmao
i could coach london better than current coach
willow drum
san's nan could coach london better than head coach rn
frosty patrol
hadi (bottom 5 maintank) poko (below average but okay offtank) sparkr and shax (overrated C and D tier hitscans, respectively) backbone (bottom 1 fdps) admiral (bottom 3 main support) landon (bottom 1 flex support)
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diya completely negates london's only decent player in sparkr
trim shadow
Heres the difference Hangzhou has a good roster but bad management..Nohill has key pieces who wins? The team overwhelming with talent or the coach dragging a dead corspe up the hill
frosty patrol
spark have an insanely loaded roster
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Heres the difference Hangzhou has a good roster but bad management..Nohill has k...
both teams clears london
willow drum
Heres the difference Hangzhou has a good roster but bad management..Nohill has k...
yes but london has bad roster with bad management ??
frosty patrol
and changoon has never led an implosion
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with their fucking feet
tidal marsh
hadi (bottom 5 maintank) poko (below average but okay offtank) sparkr and shax (...
london top 5:)
willow drum
london top 5:)
and proper wont be roty
tidal marsh
LONDON SPITFIRE TO WIN THE LEAGUE
trim shadow
yes but london has bad roster with bad management ??
Either or all three teams are either Unknown where the stand (hangzhou)
Below average or shit ( valiant London)
frosty patrol
their statement is not
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Either or all three teams are either Unknown where the stand (hangzhou)
Below av...
valiant is
so much better than london
unfortunately
willow drum
their statement is not
thats true, my analogy was quite bad
frosty patrol
valiant is a 13th place team
willow drum
Either or all three teams are either Unknown where the stand (hangzhou)
Below av...
London is like beyond dog
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sasin will be good doom god
willow drum
Proper can 1v5 London's whole roster
frosty patrol
london could not move above 20th if hangzhou shed half their starters
willow drum
crusty could clear all of london and hes plat
trim shadow
Sparkr? C tier?
frosty patrol
clears london
trim shadow
C+
frosty patrol
Sparkr? C tier?
yes
willow drum
lip can beat anyone on london w/o a mouse and on 2 frames
cunning patrol
sparkr is lower than c imho
trim shadow
?? No one sparkr is what young and on a shit roster with shit coaching ofc the contenders sparkr is long dead cause he isnt being used to his best potential
frosty patrol
so therefore sparkr is S tier
trim shadow
And he definitely wont get there with how glorious london has fell to the trashbin
frosty patrol
good take
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?? No one sparkr is what young and on a shit roster with shit coaching ofc the c...
thanks for saying he's on a shit roster
because he is
willow drum
glorious london has fallen to the trashbin a long time ago
trim shadow
Thats why london is lower
frosty patrol
sparkr is lower than c imho
sparkr D+ or C-
trim shadow
But at least london is a team
frosty patrol
shax D or lower
willow drum
But at least london is a team
no.
they are missing a player
they are effectively 4v5ing all owl teams with shit players
frosty patrol
poko sparkr backbone admiral landon
trim shadow
Valiant is both mixed and having to start from scratch..and valiant has to play seoul Shanghai chengdu and newyork every other week
frosty patrol
is so bad
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Valiant is both mixed and having to start from scratch..and valiant has to play ...
new tor
york
is in NA
frosty patrol
sasin diya innovation lengsa coldest clears
frosty patrol
emphasis on the backline
willow drum
he only watched london in 2018 iswear
frosty patrol
Rusha's takes are informed by profit spitfire
trim shadow
Philly my brain just autocorrected new york to Apac
I wasnt even a fan of london in s1
I barely remember s1 london
willow drum
how horrendous of a take is it if i have shock > seoul
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that doesnt change that valiant clears london
frosty patrol
valiant (and everyone in apac) can beat anyone in apac on a given day except maybe shanghai
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how horrendous of a take is it if i have shock > seoul
as a seoul fan
its not a horrendous take
frosty patrol
london is a free win
trim shadow
The team that was wildly inconsistent and then had a fist fight with each other before the first round of playoffs and then went on to win grand finals
frosty patrol
for many teams
willow drum
its not a horrendous take
I cant get behind tobi hc im sorry
willow drum
for many teams
inb4 shock goes 3-2 against london lmaoo
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finn clears creative but vindaim clears viol2t MS
frosty patrol
finn clears creative but vindaim clears viol2t MS
truthful statement
willow drum
i think if OTs are better than i would have coluge instead imo
willow drum
proper>profit
true, based, real