esports-discussion

[frosty patrol]

I am going to die

[next mesa]

You see

[hot onyx]

Diya gets mentally boomed after having absolute dogshit unable to defend him

[next mesa]

I can't even talk

[hot onyx]

And retires after one stage

[thin jolt]

don’t you talk about sans like that

[next mesa]

Sans

Diya suffered thru 0-40

Him and fearless mental are unboomable

You're so dumb TBH

[hot onyx]

You have bottom 3 takes in this channel that are based purely out of bias yet I’m the idiot??

[thin jolt]

is the moon cheese

[hot onyx]

Talk about a team that you don’t suck off please Levy

[next mesa]

Somehow gives benefit of the doubt to fucking seicoe but not valiant players, who's the one having bias lmao

You're so stupid it's like another plane

[hot onyx]

Seicoe has performed well

[next mesa]

Um

[hot onyx]

And has a better team around him

[next mesa]

He has performed okay

[hot onyx]

He’s a Skewed pick

[next mesa]

In eu contenders

[hot onyx]

Valiant signed 6 Skewed picks

And is hoping every one of them work

[next mesa]

I really don't care

Nohill picked them

Sans you're just beyond help

I'm so sorry

[bleak lily]

Lmfaoo

[next mesa]

🙏 😔

[thin jolt]

valiant will lose

[north relic]

Sans is dumb but his valiant take is better than yours

[hot onyx]

Damn I can provide an argument and you respond with childish insults and twitter speech

[bleak lily]

He needs help but you think Valiant are good because of Nohill

[thin jolt]

@hot onyx let’s sing the all the teams that can beat valiant song

i’ll start

[balmy wolf]

ok

[thin jolt]

glads

[balmy wolf]

i wanna sing too

[frosty patrol]

Imagine going to a school that randomly selects students to test for COVID

[balmy wolf]

shock

[hot onyx]

Titans

[north relic]

I’ve been picked three times

[hot onyx]

Charge

[thin jolt]

dragons

spark

[north relic]

London

[hot onyx]

Paris

[thin jolt]

shock

[hot onyx]

Outlaws

[frosty patrol]

we have 2,200 kids and I escaped the rng for 5 months

[next mesa]

It's me against the world on valiant

I love it

[thin jolt]

hunters

[next mesa]

I don't see any arguments

From you

Unfortunately

[north relic]

Bro I have 6000

[frosty patrol]

every team in the league but spitfire can beat valiant

[next mesa]

Trying to argue that seicoe is good 🥴

[frosty patrol]

unlucky ig

[hot onyx]

I’ll save us some singing and show you the teams that can actually beat Valiant

[frosty patrol]

I got god tier rng for not getting selected

for 5 months

[thin jolt]

go for it

[next mesa]

Sans

At this point

You're just being disrespectful

[next mesa]

But it's not surprising

For someone like your caliber

Of intellect

[thin jolt]

i’m very intellectual

[bleak lily]

Valiant are the most budget team. So budget that Nohill had to pick up his old friends to have any attempt to win a few games

[hot onyx]

You’re the one calling me an idiot because I don’t trust a coach’s bottom tier pickups yet I’m being disrespectful?

[thin jolt]

yes

[next mesa]

What can I say, you are an idiot

[bleak lily]

So that means if we don’t have faith in Valiant we are stupid

[hot onyx]

Your double standards are actually disgusting Levy

[next mesa]

It's not double standards if all I say are facts

TBH

😌

Anyways

Real smart people such as NTB agrees

Very based takes

[thin jolt]

guys i think there are a few more teams in the sing a long

[hot onyx]

Thoughts on any of the other 18 teams in the league?

That you don’t actively rail

[thin jolt]

that bronze stack

[next mesa]

Which ones

What kind of facts do you want

I provide all

[hot onyx]

Atlanta Boston Chengdu Dallas Florida Houston Hangzhou Guangzhou Glads London NYXL Paris Philadelphia Shock Shanghai Toronto Vancouver Washington

[next mesa]

Jesus

[hot onyx]

Any of those

That aren’t Valiant or Seoul

[next mesa]

Did you just spend one minute of your life typing that

Oh gosh

[hot onyx]

I am on mobile

[next mesa]

Now I feel pressured

[hot onyx]

And I also multitasked with an errand

[next mesa]

They're okay I guess

[north relic]

Atlanta Boston Chengdu Dallas Florida Houston Hangzhou Guangzhou Glads London NYXL Paris Philadelphia Shock Shanghai Toronto Vancouver Washington

[next mesa]

Alright cya

[north relic]

I’m on mobile

Just typed it out

[next mesa]

Atlanta Boston Chengdu Dallas Florida Houston Hangzhou Guangzhou Glads London NYXL Paris Philadelphia Shock Shanghai Toronto Vancouver Washington

[hot onyx]

Yeah but lsd

[next mesa]

Same

[hot onyx]

You’re both american

[next mesa]

Slow typer

What can I say

[hot onyx]

You have nothing better to do than practise typing competitions

[north relic]

Practice*

[hot onyx]

I’ll practice my moves on your mother

[north relic]

That’s not very nice

[hot onyx]

She’s a nice lady

I’ll make a better stepdad than Uvalo

At least I don’t take 3 years to get some milk

[north relic]

Uvalo has never seen a woman before

As shown by his drawing of what he thinks is one

Also apparently small hands mean better at drawing

[hot onyx]

They also apparently mean better at gaming

[frosty patrol]

small hands = worse in bed

[north relic]

Size doesn’t matter

[frosty patrol]

in an equal skill matchup size does matter

but also

too big is bad

[north relic]

I know my fingers like the back of my own hand

[frosty patrol]

“skilled”

[north relic]

my skill is unmatched

[frosty patrol]

ok guys

look in r/owl discord

#power-rankings

that list is what lsd will frame as mine

[north relic]

Mikes power rankings

[next mesa]

Who tf is in r/OWL

Mmmmm

Whoever did that list

Better than most but

Mmm

[willow tartan]

how the fuck is Paris so high

they're doo doo

[north relic]

The only edge glads have in shanghai is arguably shu

[north relic]

No one asked for your facebook memes

[next mesa]

D:

They are not from paw.exe

Shee

[north relic]

Are you closet furry

[frosty patrol]

ok the area I was supposed to go for COVID testing is sectioned off for AP exams

I’m confused

pepega school

[next mesa]

Mmmmmm

[next mesa]

Which one you taking

All I know is

CSA is tmrw

[frosty patrol]

world microecon macroecon

[north relic]

Is world two years

I’m dumb

[frosty patrol]

no

[gusty rampart]

Mike's unironically isn't too bad

[next mesa]

Haha noob

[frosty patrol]

NOT MINE

[next mesa]

Imagine taking non stem APs

[gusty rampart]

Chengdu a tiny bit too high tbh

[north relic]

Because I’m taking world next year

[frosty patrol]

also

[next mesa]

Couldn't be me

[frosty patrol]

if you agree with it

weirdge

[next mesa]

Oh yeah I forgot

You are like 12 haha

😆

[frosty patrol]

I barely take stem APs

[gusty rampart]

Chengdu is 3rd so I assumed it was yours

[next mesa]

Get gud

[north relic]

12 in HS

Resident genius

[frosty patrol]

no, I’m reasonable and have chengdu 5-7 post apr1ta yveltal departure

[gusty rampart]

Based

[frosty patrol]

micro/macro is stem though

[north relic]

I skipped middle school and went straight to high

[frosty patrol]

it’s technically math

steam is such a stupid term, what does art have in common with science technology engineering or mathematics

[north relic]

Draw penis building

Using state of the art software

[frosty patrol]

also I’m our biggest patiphan hater

by far

I would never have glads 1

[gusty rampart]

It's reasonable

We haven't seen Pati do shit

He's gonna be hard benched bro

[north relic]

Anything that isn’t shanghai one isn’t reasonable

[gusty rampart]

True

[next mesa]

TBH I would take all stem APs except bio if my school offered

I'm that kid at your school

[frosty patrol]

we offer all APs except some languages but you can do all the language ones on your own time and just show up for the exam

[north relic]

Sits alone at lunch and does homework

[next mesa]

No cap my average gonna be 99% next year

[next mesa]

Nah I barely work during lunch

TBH

[frosty patrol]

I’m the kid who’s top 10 in his class but hangs out with stoners

[next mesa]

I watch some csgo with friends

[cedar oasis]

What is this language you guys are speaking

[next mesa]

Or octurdle

[next mesa]

Niceee

[north relic]

English

[next mesa]

Like your grade

Or just your class

[frosty patrol]

grade

but tbh

[next mesa]

Nicee

[frosty patrol]

for all of high school I’m kinda shit

[next mesa]

I'm gonna be #1 in my grade next year

Trust the process

[frosty patrol]

in freshman and sophomore year I had a 3.7 weighted

[next mesa]

U guys are not gonna see me around

[frosty patrol]

but now I’m an S tier student

[next mesa]

Out of 4?

Wow

[frosty patrol]

5 is weighted maximum

[next mesa]

Holy

[frosty patrol]

like 3.1 unweighted

[next mesa]

U were braindead

[frosty patrol]

out of 4

[next mesa]

But it's all good

Now you are genius

[frosty patrol]

I now have a 4.0 unweighted and 4.9 weighted

😎

[next mesa]

Aie

That's pretty good

😎😎

[north relic]

mike is dumb

[next mesa]

Crusty when is your ap stats

My calc is next monday

Ggwp

[frosty patrol]

I didn’t take half of my AP exams

[next mesa]

The FRQs are tripping me up fr

Bruh moment

[frosty patrol]

my parents made me pay out of pocket for exams

had to choose

massive unlucky

[next mesa]

Which ones did u choose

[frosty patrol]

macroecon, microecon, world

3 most interesting

to me

[next mesa]

I'm sorry but econ is not stem however I respect it

[frosty patrol]

Taking lit, physics 2, calc AB next year

only 3 APs because senior moment

[next mesa]

Calc AB is free

IMO

I self studied it

U could do BC

[frosty patrol]

it’s free if you do the work

90% of kids here don’t

[next mesa]

Easily

I started the course in january

Lmao

It's supposed to be september-may

[frosty patrol]

I’m gonna be a lazyass senior with like 4 non-school responsibilities

[cedar oasis]

Aren't you both like 15

[frosty patrol]

so I went for AB

[keen abyss]

if you have any prior experience with calc then calc AB is free

[frosty patrol]

we’re 17

[next mesa]

U don't even need prior experience with calc

I skipped g12 math as well

[cedar oasis]

Dam kids

[next mesa]

Most of precalc

Well no

Some of precalc

[north relic]

How old r u Tyrone

[frosty patrol]

precalc here is harder than AB and as hard as BC

[next mesa]

But I do competition math

So

It balances out

[frosty patrol]

the curriculum for our precalc is so weird

[next mesa]

Precalc is the biggest jump in high school

G10-->G11

For most students

[frosty patrol]

precalc kicked my ass semester 1

it was G10 for me

[next mesa]

Lol

[frosty patrol]

then 2nd semester I got a 98%

[next mesa]

I got my lowest grade in math

In g11

[frosty patrol]

so it’s all good

[next mesa]

With a 97

However

The teacher was hard trolling me

I hate that bitch

[frosty patrol]

first semester precalc I got a C

[next mesa]

U write the square root

Sign

[frosty patrol]

2nd semester bounce back

[next mesa]

Differently

[frosty patrol]

98%

[next mesa]

She takes a point off

Like bro stop tripping

Fuck sakes

If I get her g12

It's gg

[frosty patrol]

tbf

my precalc teacher semester 1 had an incomprehensible accent and 5 dollar wifi

so I could not understand

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/fixa_ow/status/1521118169657933825?s=21

FiXa (@FiXa_ow)

18 years old now !!

Likes

759

Twitter · May 2, 2022, 1:23 PM

ROTY is now 18

Fusion unstoppable

[next mesa]

Sans you are late

To saying happy bday

To your MS

[frosty patrol]

levy

[next mesa]

Fake fan

[hot onyx]

Sorry I’m british

[next mesa]

Damn

[hot onyx]

Timezone delay

[next mesa]

I am sorry for you

[frosty patrol]

what’s your lowest social sciences/history grade

[next mesa]

Your food is so shit

[frosty patrol]

ever

[next mesa]

Like

95

Ever?

Maybe

[frosty patrol]

mine is a B in freshman year English

[next mesa]

92

[frosty patrol]

because I was dumb

[next mesa]

Oh shit

English

Lmao

I got like an 86

In freshman

[frosty patrol]

language is a social science

[next mesa]

So awful

English is like

My Achilles hill

Heel*

Fuck u see

Just proved my point god damn

[hot onyx]

Achilles Hill 💀

Average NA internet user

[next mesa]

Im hoping for a 95 in English next year

If I get that it's winnable

[hot onyx]

I hope you succeed as well Levy

[next mesa]

Thanks

I'm so stressed recently it's kinda insane

[hot onyx]

My mental health couldn’t take it if you failed and spent the rest of your life in ED

[north relic]

Valiant aren’t succeeding

[next mesa]

So i come here and insult sans

As a distress mode

Thanks for being here sans

You dumb bitch

[hot onyx]

sand

[next mesa]

❤️❤️

lsd

The adults r talking

[hot onyx]

Aren’t you 17?

[next mesa]

I'm an alcoholic

It counts

[hot onyx]

I have been drunk a total of once

Am I less of an adult?

[frosty patrol]

For English

when we write something I’m top of my class

when we’re analyzing shit

it’s so cringe

[next mesa]

Mike

U do My English essays

I do ur ap calc homework

We help each other brudda

[frosty patrol]

I want to do my calc hw

I’m going into engineering

[next mesa]

Shut up bitch I don't wanna do my essays

[frosty patrol]

so like

[next mesa]

😭😭😭

[frosty patrol]

kinda important

[next mesa]

Same

[frosty patrol]

I’ll do your essays for free

[next mesa]

Bet

[frosty patrol]

kinda fun

[next mesa]

BET

I'm deadass gonna pay u

When it comes to grades

I'm a sugar daddy fr

No cappa

[frosty patrol]

what am I writing in most of your english classes

[next mesa]

Mmmmm

No clue

[frosty patrol]

narratives, argumentative essays, poetry?

[next mesa]

I hope it's not poetry

[frosty patrol]

I am the god of poetry

[next mesa]

There's a rumor they're removing Shakespeare from the curriculum next year

[frosty patrol]

publishing soon

[next mesa]

So it's kind of a wild card

[next mesa]

I'm counting on u

Bb

[hot onyx]

My nan dabbled in poetry

[next mesa]

Sans I'll pay your nan

[hot onyx]

You could pay her

Good minds think alike

[next mesa]

Some Canadian dollars

[frosty patrol]

I will out-compete your Nan

[next mesa]

Our currency has queen Elizabeth on it it will probably get accepted in the UK

😎😎

[hot onyx]

She is 72, I’d be concerned if you didn’t

[frosty patrol]

My dad versus your nan in an ow 1v1

[hot onyx]

Did your dad make it past the tutorial?

[frosty patrol]

my dad can’t pass the tutorial either no

he got to the target shooting

gave up

[hot onyx]

My nan didn’t even get there

[next mesa]

My dad played overwatch

[hot onyx]

On controller as well

[frosty patrol]

couldn’t figure out how to make helix work

[next mesa]

He played mei for 4 games total

He would slap u guys TBH

[frosty patrol]

battle of our elders

we need a 4th

for a double elim bracket

wait just ian’s gameplay

it’s on the level of sans nan

[hot onyx]

His tracer is

But everything else I’d argue is better than my nan

[frosty patrol]

ian on inverted sens as a free win

in the bracket

[next mesa]

Sheesh

Me inverted sens is a free win

God I can't do inverted sens

[hot onyx]

I can

Star Fox 64 blessed me with inverted sens brain

[frosty patrol]

Hope I can go back to Germany soon

gonna take Marbel and his gf pubbing

[hot onyx]

Come to the UK Mike

[frosty patrol]

in Heidelberg or Trier or smth

[hot onyx]

We have pubs here

[frosty patrol]

can I drink in the UK without a parent’s permission at 17?

if so I’m on my way

[hot onyx]

They’ll charge you £3 for a glass of Coca-Cola but it’s still a pub

[hot onyx]

If you order a meal with the drink yes

[frosty patrol]

I just want to go to a pub, watch man city get rolled and drink 13 wheat beers

I’ll maybe order chicken wings or something

[next mesa]

Sans

Riddle me this

Why is UK food so shit

Is that why u guys invaded india

For the spices

[frosty patrol]

it’s not if you count northern ireland

[next mesa]

England

My uncle lives in london

When I visit him

Holy

[frosty patrol]

english food is shit unless it’s one variety of fish breaded and served with fries

[next mesa]

Why food so bad

Fish and chips is overrated

No cap

The only good thing about it is the tartar sauce

[frosty patrol]

I’ve had good fish and chips

it was in germany

but

[next mesa]

They're fine

[frosty patrol]

still good

[next mesa]

But they're just not like

[hot onyx]

my nan always uses spices in her meals, so that's probably why her food tastes much better than 9/10 restraunts

[next mesa]

Omg

[hot onyx]

also

[frosty patrol]

also had good fish and chips in new york

never had good ones in england

[next mesa]

Lmao

[frosty patrol]

germany has really good food

ireland too

san antonio too

iceland too

nowhere else

besides like

asian countries

asian countries and latin america

but

I listed the only 4 places in the western world with good food

[hot onyx]

italy?

[frosty patrol]

italy too yeah

oh yeah if turkey counts as western that’s also good

besides that

nothing

[worn falcon]

Latin America best food

[frosty patrol]

not really western world

but yes

very good food

so good

[violet turret]

They are literally in the west

[frosty patrol]

lol

western world =/= western hemisphere

is angola part of the western world

[violet turret]

West isnt just usa

[frosty patrol]

or like dr congo

[frosty patrol]

never said that

[next mesa]

Taiwan has the best food in the world

[frosty patrol]

western world is considered to be basically everywhere that was firmly allied with the US in the cold war and isn’t in Africa

[next mesa]

No cap

Not even trolling no bias

[frosty patrol]

or central/southern asia

western world is usually just

north america

parts of the caribbean

europe

new zealand-australia

[hot onyx]

And Iceland/Greenland?

[frosty patrol]

but western hemisphere is obviously different

[violet turret]

Notice how thats part of latin america

[frosty patrol]

europe and north america respectively

[frosty patrol]

eh

parts of mexico maybe, central america no

western world is a term used either

by america to say it’s not communist and therefore the best

[violet turret]

Central america is part of north anerica

[frosty patrol]

or russia to say america is shit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

turquoise is closely related to the west

dark blue is firmly considered The West

The concept of the Western part of the earth has its roots in the theological, methodological and emphatical division between the Western Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches.[8]

not a geographic term

Used to develop national identities, the overarching concept of the West was forged in opposition to ideas such as "Russia", "the East", "the Orient", "Eastern barbarism", "Oriental despotism", or the "Asiatic mode of production".

when someone says the west

or western world

they mean this

not geographically west

In modern usage, Western world sometimes[10] refers to Europe and to areas whose populations have had a large presence of particular European ethnic groups since the 15th century Age of Discovery.

And it now just describes racial demographics

it’s a cringe term yes

but when it’s used

the western hemisphere is not the meaning

it’s just

white people land for the most part

[tropic herald]

Yeah

Idk

It’s all based on context

[plush grail]

Paris will beat shock

Naga > proper

[worn falcon]

cope

[frosty patrol]

no no ian is right

naga genji lowkey > proper genji

or s9mm genji

genji meta paris stocks

also

viol2t lucio

shock are beatable in this meta

for sure

[cedar oasis]

Shock are like 6th or 7th overall

They suck

[frank copper]

man..

[frosty patrol]

hi new user

[frank copper]

hi

[frosty patrol]

does ian have a girlfriend

this is a test

[frank copper]

what

[frosty patrol]

yes or no

[frank copper]

no

[frosty patrol]

good

[tropic herald]

Passed

[frosty patrol]

based user

[tropic herald]

+100 social credit

[frank copper]

nice

i like it here

[north relic]

Levy acting like he is double my age when he is just two years older

[north relic]

are shock fans based

[balmy wolf]

w h a t

[north relic]

answer it

[balmy wolf]

im one myself

[north relic]

would you consider yourself based

[balmy wolf]

I don’t even know what that means

[north relic]

go back to the books come back when you are prepared

[balmy wolf]

???

[next mesa]

No

[balmy wolf]

like read the a tactic plan-book?

[next mesa]

15 is basically 10

TBH

[balmy wolf]

[next mesa]

I wish I was 15 again

Sadge

[north relic]

First year is trivial

Can’t wait for life to turn into hard difficulty next year

[frosty patrol]

15 is basically 13

[next mesa]

A lot of things I would do differently

[frosty patrol]

14 is 11

for me

[next mesa]

If I was still 15

[frosty patrol]

from 15-17 I matured like double

[next mesa]

Relationships do that

[north relic]

I matured at a young age

[next mesa]

TBH

[north relic]

I don’t tell people to kys in qp games

(Mike)

[frosty patrol]

chucky deserved it

[next mesa]

He's just gaming

[north relic]

It wasn’t chucky

[next mesa]

No judgement

[north relic]

Just some random dude

[frosty patrol]

other people also deserved it

[north relic]

That played an in optimal hero

how does English work for you guys

also I can’t wait to dominate pubs and get scouted by nyxl to be their new tank player

[frosty patrol]

I’ve never told a good person to kill themselves

[north relic]

Chucky was a nice guy

[hot onyx]

Viol2t moment

[north relic]

we should fine mike

-4K

[hot onyx]

we should fine him 3K and make him pay 2K to charity

and suspend him for 4 matches

and ban him from twitch streaming for 6 months

[tropic herald]

Any1 made a pickems group

?

[next mesa]

https://youtu.be/_ZPw7gRc-VU

I need this shit sheeeeesh

[hot onyx]

i can make one if need be

wait wdym by pickems group?

[tropic herald]

Like what happened last year

W/ pickems

If you do it just post here w password and get a mod to pin it

[hot onyx]

ok

why can't i just get you to pin it empathy?

oh wait

https://tenor.com/view/demoted-discord-mod-discord-moderator-chat-mod-gif-22622277

thats why

i'll get a current mod like Mik to pin it instead

"private leaderboards coming soon"

[sly lagoon]

If yoi have good actual stuff ill pin it

[tropic herald]

It will be when they let it out

[frosty patrol]

why hasn’t everyone in ed been banned yet

4,500 breaches of the off-topic rule

[sly lagoon]

Because I don't see you guys having friendly discussions as friends hurting the server in anyway

More of it can be more welcoming, as long as you still discuss ed majority of the time

@frosty patrol cant expect same pwople to talk years n yeard only about esports

And you all mainly follow the rules well and dont cause problems

[frosty patrol]

we are the most tight knit channel

[sly lagoon]

I still haven't got my taxes

[worn falcon]

wtf doesnt put the tier break

done

[twilit oriole]

Based

[cloud latch]

how is boston above houston

[plush grail]

I do not

[north relic]

“Friendly”

I don’t understand this Philly top 3 apac stuff tbh

[balmy wolf]

my rankings

[worn falcon]

predictions

[north relic]

What is this defiant placement

[balmy wolf]

id

[worn falcon]

defiant under outluls

[balmy wolf]

idk

[worn falcon]

flipcoin

[north relic]

I’d give mayhem a map and titans beating Boston

[balmy wolf]

2-3 for every game besides shock games and shock games shock win 3-0

[frosty patrol]

I pay tribute by serving as your messenger

[frosty patrol]

no shot you have boston 6

and philly 3?

[worn falcon]

no bias here

[frosty patrol]

fury simp behavior

[worn falcon]

no

Carpe simp behavior

[frosty patrol]

the 3rd best dps on fusion

[worn falcon]

3rd best in owl

[frosty patrol]

nah

low A tier

or high B

[worn falcon]

lolno

[bleak lily]

Boston??

Boston have 3 tanks and still look like the worst in the league at that position

[frosty patrol]

not the worst

just

not good

at all

by any stretch

valiant have the worst tankline but nohill boosting services

[worn falcon]

https://youtu.be/zZNhIecNrDU

based avast

https://twitter.com/sean_mmills/status/1521527203888087040

Sean Miller (@sean_mmills)

I know we said no hero pools for 2022... but this time is different! Turns out Wrecking Ball's powers are a bit too strong for OWL servers too, so we'll be disabling him for this weekend, but should get our furry friend in by next week 🐹

Twitter · May 3, 2022, 4:28 PM

ball players in shambles

fortunately there arent many ball players in NA

[willow drum]

based

[willow drum]

based

[willow drum]

also based

[north relic]

Sideshow looks so old

[worn falcon]

Ageing thanks to Valorant

[frosty patrol]

he’s a married man

[worn falcon]

Valorant making him to work the wrinkles on his brain.

[north relic]

Custa is engaged also isn’t he

Looks younger

[frosty patrol]

once the wedding happens

you age up

automatically

[bleak lily]

Valiant getting hard overrated

[frosty patrol]

I mean

they have the father son and the holy ghost as a coaching staff

[bleak lily]

All he has done is coach well in contenders and he’s expected to actually win games with that budget? He just chose his friends

[frosty patrol]

dude

go to church

[bleak lily]

Valiant will have the worst record in the league

[frosty patrol]

london

london has 0 players above average on their role

valiant has 2 and better coaching

[willow drum]

Avast as "stabilizing force" 💀

[bleak lily]

London will play against more teams that they could beat on a bad day

Who is the Valiant beating?

[frosty patrol]

anyone but shanghai they could beat on any given day

[bleak lily]

No they can’t

[frosty patrol]

they’re not a whole tier worse than everyone in their conference like london is

[bleak lily]

But they are

Every APAC roster dumpsters the Valiany

[frosty patrol]

I mean

eh

nohill

this team has the 2nd best or best coaching staff in apac

boosting their roster

and every NA roster dumpsters london

[bleak lily]

Nohill isn’t so good he can make this roster of trash beat actual OWL rosters

[frosty patrol]

besides maybe boston or smth

[frosty patrol]

his roster isn’t trash

it’s just not great

[willow drum]

a master chef can make good food out of bad ingredients

[frosty patrol]

diya lengsa are great pieces

[bleak lily]

Spitfire’s roster is good enough to compete with Titans, Mayhem, Boston out of meta

[frosty patrol]

and innovation coldest have potential

[frosty patrol]

not titans lmfao

[bleak lily]

Diya hasn’t played in the league consistently since the 0-40 dragons

[frosty patrol]

titans dumpster on every role but tank

[bleak lily]

Coldest was a bench player on the Spark

[frosty patrol]

he was arguably the best player in contenders at the end of 2020

[bleak lily]

Innovation? How is he good

[frosty patrol]

coldest looked very good in contenders, hence “potential”

[hot onyx]

London have ChrisTfer and their average player ratio is higher than Valiant

[frosty patrol]

disagree

backbone admiral landon shax sparkr hadi poko

[bleak lily]

So Valiant have Diya… while Spark have Shy, Fusion MN3 and Carpe, Charge have Choi, Seoul Fits, and Dragons Lip

[frosty patrol]

0 average players

[willow drum]

reinforce dumb take with titans as worst in league aiyah wtf

[tropic herald]

Valiant are last in the way that someone has to be last every season not in the way that valiant were last season

[bleak lily]

Diya is completely overshadowed when every APAC team has a top level HS

[frosty patrol]

choisehwan is out for a while to start the season, fits is inconsistent, dragons are unbeatable

[frosty patrol]

^

valiant go like 8-16 or something, maybe better

london go like

4-20

[tropic herald]

Valiant will win games but they won’t have a positive record against any team if I had to guess

[bleak lily]

Fits is way better than Diya

[frosty patrol]

fits on a bad day is not

[bleak lily]

Valiant winning eight GAMES???

[frosty patrol]

on any given day diya could diff him or he could be way better than diya

[frosty patrol]

yes

I give them like

2 against guangzhou

[bleak lily]

NoHill and Valiant are officially the two most overrated things in the OWL

[frosty patrol]

2 against hangzhou

[bleak lily]

They will never beat the Spark unless the Spark implode

[frosty patrol]

1 against every other team but shanghai

so actually 7

[frosty patrol]

spark are going to have bad days/bad metas

imo

and also

valiant is better than charge until choisehwan shows up

since he’s having issues getting to china due to illness, china’s restrictions, etc

lav have more good pieces in their starting lineup than london could ever hope to have

like

london has poko and shax as their “bright spots”?

neither are good

poko is pretty close to league average

I’ll give you that

best player on the team

better than sasin

but like

poko sparkr backbone admiral landon

ew

[cedar oasis]

who are you?

[bleak lily]

Charge is better than Valiant on every position

[north relic]

Coaching doesn’t make a poo poo doo doo roster good

[frosty patrol]

lengsa diya > unique develop

besides that I agree

but coaching diff

[worn falcon]

plat crusty diff >>

[hot onyx]

other than the supports i see no issue

Poko >> Sasin

Hadi >>>> Sasin main tank

[frosty patrol]

yes

on tank spitfire diff

maybe on doom sasin diffs

but overall spitfire tank gap

on dps

honestly valiant win

on support

[hot onyx]

SparkR Shax > Ezhan Innovation Becky

[frosty patrol]

valiant win

[frosty patrol]

diya > sparkr

[hot onyx]

Diya > Backbone

essentially

[frosty patrol]

honestly

becky/innovation/haker > backbone

[hot onyx]

it goes

Diya > Spitfire dps > rest of Valiant dps

honestly

[frosty patrol]

nah

[hot onyx]

Becky maybe

why am i saying maybe

[frosty patrol]

diya > sparkr/shax
becky innovation haker as a rotation >>> backbone

[hot onyx]

of course they are

it's backbone

the worst fdps in the league

[frosty patrol]

lengsa >>> admiral

coldest > landon

spitfire tank gap

everything else

valiant win

[hot onyx]

yeah but Spitfire also coaching gap

ChrisTFer >

[frosty patrol]

nah

nohill > christfer

sans has an incredibly rare case of the christfer delusion

[worn falcon]

The philly bias

[hot onyx]

ChrisTFer delusion >>> Nohill delusion

[frosty patrol]

nah

nohill delusion is more grounded in reality

also

woohyal delusion > spilo delusion

[hot onyx]

true true

Nohill didn't sign Pr🤮v1de i'll give him that

[frosty patrol]

if joemeister or boombox went to spitfire instead of landon sans would have them top 5

[hot onyx]

untrue

i'd only have them above Paris

[frosty patrol]

what about if they replaced backbone with eqo and landon with joemeister AND boombox

[hot onyx]

isn't Joemeister main support?

[frosty patrol]

kind of

[hot onyx]

hyperflex support like Lukemino?

[frosty patrol]

he plays lucio

but

only other support he plays is ana

so like

lucio ana 2tp

[hot onyx]

i swear i saw JM playing mercy

during the world cup

for Team Canada

[frosty patrol]

maybe

but mercy was a fs back then

[hot onyx]

ah yes my favourite flex supports, Ark and Neptuno

[frosty patrol]

yes

ark and custa are flex supports

who got forced onto lucio later

like unironically

custa ark aren’t MS

neptuno is just a mercy otp

[lost thicket]

make the best team only using NA players and the same thing only using APAC players

[frosty patrol]

NA: fearless hanbin proper doha kai funnyastro fielder shu

APAC: Ga9a Void Lip Leave Fleta Leejaegon Izayaki Mmonk

[hot onyx]

Doha

[lost thicket]

Dallas Core with Proper, Xzi, Chiyo Viol2t, Skewed, and Shu

[frosty patrol]

doha is a hole filler

for sombra mei

I built the dps line around proper

I restricted myself to 2-3-3

[lost thicket]

the last three fill in double fs and brig, proper is another dps and also could be their doom tank player

[hot onyx]

alright make it interesting

do it again but with only one player per team

[lost thicket]

Fearless/Hanbin great, so no one needs to be another tank sides Proper for Doomfist maybe

[lost thicket]

bet

[frosty patrol]

1 player per team:

[hot onyx]

apac: MN3 Leave Smurf Cr0ng Lengsa Izayaki

wait no

forgot to put Shy in the middle there

[frosty patrol]

NA: Someone Hanbin Proper Pelican Kai Chorong Shu Vigilante

[willow drum]

Kellan Space Proper Xzi Pelican Shu Chorong UV

[frosty patrol]

APAC: I’ll steal a korean from NA

to make it 2-3-3

[cedar oasis]

ga9a over fate

mike wtf

[hot onyx]

NA: Proper Pelican Hawk Fearless FunnyAstro Twilight

[lost thicket]

NA Proper (Shock) Sparkle (Dallas) Kai (ATL) Kellen (NYXL) Kalios (Justice) FunnyAstro (Gladiators) Lastro (Outlaws) Twilight (Defiant)

APAC Shy (HZS) Leave (CDH) Fleta (SHD) smurf (SEO) Fury (PDH) Molly (GZC) Lengsa (LAV)

[frosty patrol]

Smurf Cr0ng Leave Lip Shy Lengsa Shu Aimgod

cheated a bit with the 1 NA korean to make it 2-3-3

[frosty patrol]

ngl

I think mine is just a better team

[lost thicket]

Yours is good but mine is better sadly

[frosty patrol]

I have the better dps tanks and supports

[north relic]

Imagine using glads for ans and not their supports

[bleak lily]

Who is the best hitscan in NA?

[lost thicket]

Disagree

[lost thicket]

a flexscan, a flex and a hitscan,

thought better for it to be more well rounded

though Fastro better then dridro

[north relic]

Hitscan pick Kai and get fastro

[lost thicket]

oh shit yeah

forgot Kai

[frosty patrol]

you literally saw mine

before making yours

“forgot kai”

[lost thicket]

I was never

I mean never

looking at chat

while making my list

I have the liquipedia open

and I'm scanning through the team

I just

forgot Kai was on ATL

[north relic]

Chorong shu or fastro twilight

[lost thicket]

Lastro or Ir1s

Ir1s kinda bap 1 trick

but lastro does what twilight does but worse

[north relic]

iris is straight up better

[frosty patrol]

^

[balmy wolf]

bet

yaki proper xzi shu ch0r0ng iris kalios fearless

ez

[hot onyx]

Lastro over Iris????

[balmy wolf]

is my team good

[hot onyx]

Iris is better than Lastro on an individual level on every hero?

[worn falcon]

ur team sleeps

[lost thicket]

I value flex ability Lastro is Great on Zen and Ana while Ir1s was just great on bap

imo

[balmy wolf]

is that good

[hot onyx]

It’s pretty good but I’ve seen better

[balmy wolf]

:(

[worn falcon]

you went just hard hitscan

no flex player

[balmy wolf]

???

yaki

[worn falcon]

not the best flex

[balmy wolf]

hes still rlly good

and we have proper

[hot onyx]

Probably better to have Pelican

[hot onyx]

Lastro wasn’t even average as zen last szn

[cunning patrol]

he was

[hot onyx]

Barely

[cunning patrol]

his ana wasnt good tho idk where thats coming from

[frosty patrol]

mystary’s team has no flexibility issues

neither does mine

[hot onyx]

Or mine

Tell me where there’s flexibility issues in Pelican Proper

[frosty patrol]

dullahan has the worst support line out of us

lengsa molly

I did a little bit of cheating

[balmy wolf]

ok fine

[frosty patrol]

with lengsa shu aimgod

[hot onyx]

Lengsa is kind of an insta lock tbh

[balmy wolf]

i replace yaki with pelican

and remove iris

[hot onyx]

For the apac fantasy

[balmy wolf]

iris gets replaced with

uhhhh

[hot onyx]

Because the rest of Valiant is outright useless

[balmy wolf]

uv

actually n9

not uv

m*d

[hot onyx]

MCD is not better than UV

[balmy wolf]

oh

ok

[hot onyx]

And I’m a UV denier

[balmy wolf]

uv then

[lost thicket]

I limited myself bruh

[balmy wolf]

i wanted full kr roster :(

[lost thicket]

I tried my fucking best with 1 player from each team APAC only

[frosty patrol]

you could say diya if like 4 insane APAC hitscans didn’t exist

[hot onyx]

Nothing is stopping you from selecting GNJ

[balmy wolf]

oh yea

gimmie gnj for uv

and now

a good roster

[hot onyx]

MN3 Lip Leave Shy Fits clears

Diya

[balmy wolf]

peli proper xzi
fearless kalios
gnj ch0r0ng shu

ezpz

[frosty patrol]

honestly

[lost thicket]

ngl kinda hard

[frosty patrol]

someone hanbin > fearless kalios

[lost thicket]

No lmao

[balmy wolf]

not removing kalios

[lost thicket]

Someone is good

[balmy wolf]

or xzi

[lost thicket]

but not better then fearless

but MT player = Chad

[frosty patrol]

fearless is not as much better than someone as hanbin is better than kalios

[cunning patrol]

i agree

[frosty patrol]

imo

[cunning patrol]

someone is a goat

kalios is not

also handpain > fraudless

[balmy wolf]

who do i get cuz i dont have xzi anymore

[hot onyx]

Kalios is good??

[frosty patrol]

yes but

the difference is bigger

between hanbin kalios

than fearless someone

[hot onyx]

Kalios is higher on his role than Someone

[frosty patrol]

yes but I don’t rate fearless as high as hanbin

[hot onyx]

Hanbin Fearless are like the best tanks in the league

Unless they’re Shanghai or Glads tanks they’re not coming close

[balmy wolf]

glads doesnt stand a chance to dallas tankline

[hot onyx]

Well I do and I don’t rate Someone as a top 10 main tank

But I do rate Kalios top 10 off tank

[frosty patrol]

I rate someone as a top 10 maintank

probably 6-8

so that’s where we differ

someone is the carry of florida

along with xzi