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That happened years ago
Riven is not better than clestyn
It's just your names
You know
Capitalize Flex Support
fixed
Riven didn’t perform at a top tier level with Belosrea as his tank partner
riven is worse than clestyn significantly at everything else
but
zarya
he is so good
Clestyn zarya is also so good
riven's is better
Clestyn everything is so so good
Why didn’t nyxl sign him them
Easily a top 7 off tank if he made it to the league
VISA issue
They probably thought about it but couldn’t because of Korean visas
Vulcan is not very good
Move back to Korea
clestyn to dragons
4th worst off tank in the league best case scenario to be precise
i would if i could tbh
What’s your thoughts on the new orisa changes
Yeah in season 3
This is season 5 where Hotba is above average
that would be assault
Damn it’s bad enough that you’re dating a child, but to dropkick one as well??
no its child abuse
I’m taller than Ian
not hard
Height reveal?
ian is like 4ft
Two inches on a good day
Don’t worry puberty will bless you eventually
14*
I can make owl in three years 😤 😤😤
I can technically make OWL now
But I’d need to rank up, grind T3, potentially move up to T2, grind T2 and somehow make it in the league before more talented players like Clestyn and Sado
im back
but you are offline
would you like to watch some ow2 gameplay since you dont have access to it
you suck
Uvalo don’t act like lsd isn’t better than either of us
im 2x better at half your age
You are 3 years younger than me
we are the same rank
Checkmate and Pelican are the same rank, doesn’t make them remotely equal
you are diamond tho
YZSNA and Fleta are the same rank
yeveltal 
Yveltal probably goes somewhere with more money than sense
I wonder where
Sadly no APAC team needs any of them
And before any of you say NA teams won't pick them up because they're Chinese, it is because the VISA would take too long and China's travel restrictions
^^
Farway probably goes to Spark or Valiant for the pre existing Team CC synergy
Apr1ta to Charge is possible
Because of the ChoiSehWan situation
Valiant and Spark don’t really need another dps
Maybe Outlaws relocate to APAC and sign Sado and Yveltal?
Otherwise I don’t see Yveltal finding a team
Probably goes back to grind T2
anyone know the super vs dallas fuel vod
lol what
get back on ow
wait for my game
And Blase is still the better echo
And doomguy
And junkrat
Imho
Atlanta logo in middle looks so good
Visa would take a year
Also you'd have to factor in communication
A Chinese player would struggle in a NA/KR player environment
Hell all three could end up at guangzhou if the team is desperate to remain competitive
Cr0ng, Eileen, Apr1ta, Yveltal, Molly 😳
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This quality
Is*
Ye would actually give them some hope to not become a farm team
yveltal would be huge actually
also develop could be better than apr1ta on hard hitscans
not very sure
Eileen does not start over Develop
depends on meta
Fr
Man now that i look back on what shock lost(i forgot fuckin choihyobin retired) this season could go very wrong
Eileen doomfist benching Cr0ng perhaps?
They truly need crusty magic
Yes
they lost
Eileen doom
extremely good tankline
Is very good
They lost both of the good tanks
they gained jesus
But df won’t be meta
it kinda cancels out tbh
And then Super decided to retire afterwards
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False underrated
But yes they sacrificed there championship winning team
And potentially better
For basically dps god of the last 3 years in proper
I think the blood ritual worked fellas
Good sacrifice
they did not win s4, if they did
then its a bad trade
but
they have jesus now
- o2blast as an academy team
jesus junior is on their academy team
Can’t wait for the Proper Heesang duo in 2023
this off season has been good for shock
Right and 02blast knowing boss would definitely pump out good players so maybe theyll be fine
basically a leave lip dps duo
well
more like proper pelican
Shame they decided to go for FiNN main support this year
And a slightly weaker echo
I wouldve lost my shit if houston managed to secure proper with pelican
barely
and proper pelican wont be a thing
with no competition
proper heesang will be the best
Assuming that Heesang doesn’t retire from professional Overwatch before he’s eligible
@cedar oasis i can finally play ow2
good for you
Actually crazy to think there used to be a MN3 Heesang duo in Contenders Korea that didn’t even place top 3
overrated
You’re overrated
facts
I am literally going to shower
Ow2 is highly rated monka?
Then make dinner
your laptop isnt waterproof?
I can probably play two matches while dinner is on
No and even if it was I wouldn’t want to bring it to shower because it would waste water
Plans change dumbass and it was two hours ago
sometimes i say that
and then scroll on my phone for 45 minutes
🥴
rally still makes teams immortal
not as immortal as before
but
not as immortal as before
More immortal
because with one less tank that's one less hero committing a lot of damage to kill rallied targets
UK DUO
Both 19
Masters
looking for 3 others to run some 5v5s
seoul could be better than them if jinmu is forced in a meta where he cant play his two tricks
better than sprk though?
(assuming spark do not excrete upon the amttress)
no
Glads roster looks really strong
Gonna be fun to see
oh dear lord lmao
forgot hunters in spanish is cazadores
so when I translated the tweet and saw "Cazadores de Chengdu"
I was stuck for like a good 5 seconds
my ancestors would beat the shit out of me for forgetting spanish
Defiant will beat shock this year for the first time ong
true
just not this tourney since Although is delayed
anyhow how do you feel about chengdu rn, dps is a bit weaker but still, Leave Jinmu is good, MMonk was better then 1987 but not by much, Yveltel was better then Nisha but he was a bit of a bitch
Defiant finally top 5
They’re doing really well in scrims
Top 5 according to Yiska, and Yiska doesn’t like Toronto at all
and and Shanghai were average last season during scrims
Justice were gods
dallas was mid
Your point? Where they scrimming on OW2
A new game
It still shows how good a team can be
No
Scrimbux are memes
but scrims are no way to gauge how good a team is
They should win the SS tourney
stop huffing so much copium
How is that COPUIM
your mid team seems to be good again
Yes
Although baxk+ playing in Toronto
but wait until they actually play
In a week you’ll see smh
lets see
sheeesh
Their backline would just be the best in the league
Next they upgrade their DPS line to the best in the league
Then tanks
And boom
Best team in owl
If Toronto upgrade their roster with the best players in the league they will become the best team in the league? Thank you for such wise insight, forgoodking45.
Shanghai has never beat defiant
🫵‼️
🤣
sorry to tell you this but nyxl are very mid
vulcan made them mid
How can adding a player downgrade
Also stop acting like you can rate teams you don’t even play ow2
respect your elders child
tell me that when you play ow2
They were bottom tier well before
talk to me when u hit puberty
Just not smart individuals put em above good teams
Like ATl
Who was always better
In every position
no
Maybe not
wait
DPS wise
how old is everyone
Mmm
i refuse to be the oldest
fucik
ok
sans and ian are like 18
lsd is like 14
@willow tartan how old are you
i'm pretty sure i have early onset dementia
ow does that to a guy
all zoomers
if i ever went to a doctor and got my brain scanned it'd probably show that a majority of it has stopped working
i am not older then 30 wtf
Stfu grandpa
go back to your newspaper
Isn’t Tyrone like 23
gen z = 1996-2011
gen y = 1981-1996
according to internet
who is tyrone
u
U
cuyo is unironically a boomer
really?
why does whoru look kinda sickly
imagine playing against the dragons lip kills you and gives you the death look
duality of man
The one on Sombra jail vs the one on bench jail
me when uvalo and me when no uvalo
wife, no wife.
I have come to the conclusion
this is the best channel in the server
Good-hearted ribbing (usually)
solid OW discussion
cool people
shut up whomegalul
justice is like my home team
spark is just a fun one to have a 2nd team
...and their colors yes
because we do not support the same team i will be forced to call you names and disagree with every opinion you have
fuck you'll still be nicer than most of the people in OWD
as long as u dont mention my gf ur fine
bitches mean nothing to me brother only teams 🙏
Gen z doesnt run that long 
Matter fact 1999-2005 babys are there own group
Well too bad, you wrong according to the internet.
We dont know what happened after 2009
What, the world ended for you in 2009?,
I became sentient when i turned 9 so yes 
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Tournaments not in southeast asia 
I might beat you, how old are you
Who need a sombra god?
oh boy another tourney where two contenders teams sign up and roll everyone and meet in the finals
Listen one of these days if someone gets the balls to host a tournament in SEA
I will rip through them all
With my extensive intellectual capacities
And ping advantage.
Memeicus aren’t you the only person with a functioning brain that plays Overwatch in SEA?
just spam avrl until he sets one up
AVRL doesn't live in SEA
he's close enough
nobody mentions your girlfriend
how can you mention something that does not exist
same
yes
if you have a gf just don’t talk about them or ignore bullying and keep talking about it
Yea I have 3 gfs but don’t mention them since I’m nice
do they all smoke weed with you?
They all smoke NYXL hopium with him
It's not coming home again because of the tanks again
Nice pfp
Thank u
Just make a splinter bruh
???
If you want certain emotes just make your own server lol
how that got to do with splinters
You pay for Nitro may as well use it
Splinter servers are alternate servers that usually link to a server you're in
Never heard of that ngl
You just create a server 4head
yeah but how do i make it a splinter?
then why did you say i could link it to this server
I give up.
Usually it becomes that because the members of consist of people from the server
Why don’t you give up on your other shittier arguments
hi
i have 20 girlfriends
would anyone want to play overwatch 2!!
uh
maybe after i roll my friend in 1v1.lol
but maybe not
Thats 19 more than me
yeah
it is
i know that already
How do u manage that tho
how does amount of girlfriends relate to amount of fingers
you see the joke is that each "girlfriend" is a finger, (part of hand), so by stating that I only have ten, I posit that perhaps mystary may be counting his toes as well
if OW2 doom was in OW1 would he be a MT or a OT
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yveltal the thrower
That team had bigger issues than yveltal missing scrims to read Manga imo. Lack of a backup dps and an off tank and switching out supports every other game doesn't help on top of only playing ball 
but you have to admit they coulda placed better
They reminded me of a more consistent version of s4 Philly. They didn't lose as many games they easily could win but they would randomly shit the bed to a team like Seoul any day of the week
A lot like s4 gladiators too, hot rookie supports with a top 5 veteran main support and tank and god flex, lackluster placing 
i am not
I waited all this time for ow2 but man I wish they did one more ow1 send-off with all these hyped prospects pls
I just wanna see proper wreck owl in ow1 once pls

this is a true statement
u got 20 fingers?
no
w
i thought we had an agreement
and imo, they made orisa fun to play, but even worse to play vs compared to her in ow1
@earnest leaf rate the winton play
cucked L
then got kicked because he was on autopilot re-doing teams
ngl that lobby was incredibly unbalanced
most of them are
i went like 40-4 and all my deaths were from emoting in spawn
soldier high key busted rn
i also think supports deaths have been greatly exaggerated
ana is actually really fucking strong rn
they're fine
ana/lucio/moira are all top tier
bapt is still pretty strong, zen is underrated
brig/mercy probably the lowest but are still solid
the only supp who is shit i think is zen but also ive only played him a little
discord orb is still nutty
tbh all the main supports are fine at the very least
i think brig is still busted on dive maps
Toronto top 4 NA for sure
NTB chatting hours
Yes
hotba is my goat
MuZe is the 🐐 no 🧢
Jjonak the goat
i wouldnt normally rate hotba but like i think ow2 is his time to shine
I mean
Logicaly soeaking there's no way that this squad is going to be mid
Heesu and hotba are A tier MuZe Ch0r0ng and Twilight are S tier
Although is a wildcard and finale just sux
chorong and twilight are the only truly top tier parts of the team
Heesu rides quiet all season long outside of a couple pop off games, muze got deadlifted all last year and hotba is mid
their dps and tanks I just don't trust enough to keep up with any top 5 team
it'll be a test to see how hard twilight and chorong can carry basically
The muze take is so braindead
nah I even double checked and watched back vods of him
His ball Winston and orisa were rlly important
For glads
He's just not that flashy
It was basically kevster/birdring killing 4 then muze coming in to help cleanup the last of the team
But u don't get top 2 stats on a inconsistent team that doesn't focus on enabling the MT
If ur getting carried
Like that's not how it works
Also that's not possible w no space created and u know it
Most of the entry frags were almost always set up by MuZe on ball or orisa
It is absolutely possible with the caliber of dps that kevster and birdring were
Ans did that to every team in NA for an entire season
Leave did it to apac for a whole season as well
Ans was heavily played around
And leave had a good team as well
Yet neither killed 4 solo every fight
If u reduce anything in OWL to a single person then u don't get how it's played lol
Muze is a good complimentary player, he'll fit in and do his job, but he won't hard gap the other tank or carry
Rewatch their qualifier game vs Atlanta for summer showdown
and I dislike that going into 5v5 where the tank needs to have strong carry potential
Or him vs Atlanta in cc cup
He dicked the shit out of gator
Even on his worst MT rein
Or how he gapped ga9a in cc finals
You've told me to watch back his vods before and it only proved me right
He's a great MT he's just not a fissure, fearless typa MT
not doing it again lmao
Yet u claimed bs
He'll do fine, he just won't carry, and tanks imo need to do that to some degree this season
Tell me what matches did u watch
He doesn't need to carry when the whole point was to.enable the dps
Can't remember off the top of my head the teams since it was like 6 months ago
He can carry, he did it loads of times on WGS
See
U tryna tell me u can't even remember teams
Yea i'm not gonna remember specific vods I watched half a year ago
I can remember how he did, and not be able to remember the specific names
If u can't even remember the TEAMS then why should I take ur argument abt the vods serious
cap
But even then my point stands
He never had to carry because that wasn't his job
NTB
He had a few maps where he did
Because I don't religiously scan through muze's vods doesn't mean I can't make a conclusion on how I rate him
Because u didn't watch them
I did
U didn't
Remember when you hounded me on his mechanics
and told me to watch the vods
I did
and it proved me right
I don't remember random ass details to events that happened half a year ago
That's not a random ass detail
That's one of the most important parts lmfao
What comp they played what the goal of their plan was etc matters too
If u just binge watched some vods and came to the conclusion he isn't killing 4 every fight=he's bad then idk what to tell u
No my point is that he's a complimentary player
He isn't gonna throw your games, nor will he carry them
he'll hop in the lobby, do ok and sign off for the day
He's literally leading the stat for eliminations
elims are a useless stat
congrats you rolled through a moira as ball and tracer killed her 10 seconds later
He doesn't have to carry
He enables the dps while barely taking any ressourves
From space or the backline
Enabling shu so he can put out more damage which lead them to control the pace of the game most of the time
He's gonna have to carry a lot more this season
he doesn't have a top 5 dps line anymore
He's shown on WGS that he can
idgaf about contenders from two years ago
Also heesu fucks and although won't be bad
Why would he just unlearn how to do it
When he had Tydolla and now has KDG
Makes 0 sense 😭😭
He's also leading the assist stat btw
to be proven right
Proving my point again
Idgaf about stats
Corny
Stats w context matter
I can go make so many bs conclusions based off raw stats
U can't say shit that is factualy wrong
Also the stat isn't raw
It's put into context because u claimed bird and Kevin did all the work
And he just rolled in afterwards
Yet the stats literally prove that that's not true
Idk
Seems more like ur coping
That w the fact that u can't even name TEAMS that he played
Is kinda.funny
I doubt u actually watched the vods because then u wouldn't talk nonsense like that
Yes because I can't remember a small detail from over half a year ago I don't know what i'm talking about
mb lemme go binge every muze vod on the internet to have a proper opinion
cope harder
anyways
outlaws easily better
nah I just dislike when people say really stupid shit and go "nuh uh" to anything I say
cope
getting proven wrong= stupid shit :^)
Ur only argument after i showed objective statements that debunked what u said was "cope"
All you said was he was leading in assists and elims
I said he's an enabling MT that was not resource depending and set up bird and kevster for a shitload of their kills
Boston #1
Which is proven by stats
LOSER
Idk if ur reading comprehension is as bad as ur takes or even worse tbh
what the fuck
they said the rollout for drops will still take a while
keep coping bud
😭
I took it
you bitch!
Make sure ur connected to twitch on the battlenet website too
"Keep coping bud"-🤓🤓🤓🥶
cope
I’m always right
Once you checked it worked
anyone wanna play
yeah like when u said this
I GUESS
I told you to check
bottom 3 moment for you
It worked
That was real
I was right
@vagrant cargo those jimmy scrimbux
Jimmy the goat
Also he was better than diem because diem fucking died
Custa says jimmy the goat cuz jimmy the goat
I blame Nero
He sold me all the Jimmy stocks
fck
cuz he's an inflexible hitscan that hasn't played consistently in a while
He isn't inflexible
from ur mouth
or he didn't look for teams
He's just washed
ntb
Lolz
I love diem
levy coping thinking it's s2 still and diem is a top hs
agree!
health diff
unlucky
unfortunate
A collapsed lung is a career ender sadly
ntb
Yes
is jjonak coming back or what
heck you...
seoul will make playoffs
Jjonak the goat
jjonak will come back
Seoul good
ez shampionship
Because profit is benched
Seoul only good with Jjonak
keep my wifes name
is stalker playing
out your fucking mouth
Except when they put stalk3r on doom
Jjonak > stalker
Ik nothing abt apac scrimms
Those NYXL frauds took him
And now he's stuck with Vulcan
When he could have been w the best tank oat
MuZe
tbf vulcan isn't ever gonna play
Yeah cause he's shit
unless kellan was that tragic in scrims
he was
I could maybe get on in a bit
I will be playing ow2 all day tomorrow
addi duo with me
someone the goat
get carried
gunba scouting op
me when mayhem beat defiant opening week
shut cuyo and forgood up
Ever since that 14 year old contenders manager threw a tantrum because I said their region is doodoo
I hope punk flops this szn
hes actually rlly good
Yeal
some1 being held back by his team
he seems to be a super type player
sad !!
really good outside of games and in
#hottake someone > magazine
idk what hes like in scrims but having watched his gameplay hes pretty mechanically wicked
he is a great
No you smell
who wants Th3Jok3r duo
U know who also has good mechanucs
But is now stuck with the worst flex supp in NA
Itsal
which flex supp
theres like 3 of them
Crimzo
it's always funny seeing people's takes on crimzo
people either think he's dogshit or a top tier FS
he is dogshit and white
Bett
coldest sucks bestie
Great take
nohill is never wrong
Crimzos ego is so absurdly high tho
I'm surprised
irony the goat is why farway is going to hangzhou
and it was after
Charon didn't get picked up
inb4 decay knocks crimzo out of playoffs for a third year in a row
Nah this is crazy
farway gzc
That graph?
Americans are dented
The plot
hes canadian
America is a continent
Hawk
Reiner is a bum
fuck you ntb reiner is insane
i'd say reiner tbh
he has benched space in all honesty
give
Bro has glasses
Nah
fym nah
Vuol2t does it in a sexy mysterious villain way, reiner looks like he yells slurs and crys himself to sleep
It's a big difference
Smell doesn’t transfer over the internet
LSD
disagree reiner has a top tier haircut as well
would u like to play some overwatch
and has a top tier twitter page
I’m going home rn
anyone who thinks reiner is funny needs fo touch grass
disagree he is a fairly funny person
m bad mixed u up w jack
thats upsetting to hear
Sorry bout that
all good
unlucky
levy i fear
spark might actually be #3 apac
sans may have been correct
cheng
they got off pretty good
apr1ta never was gonna be that helpful cuz leave plays like every hero better than him except wid
@next mesa add me whenever
r u guys on 1 or 2
2
join
Th3Jok3r#11267
sent
They shouldn't reiner is a very funny person
SORRY UGYS
cringe!
CRINGE !!!
Th3Jok3r is getting angry
You don't want to know what happens when Th3Jok3r gets angry
imho
WITH THAT FAKE ASS LOOKING HAIR
nohill needs a tox screen
im #1 wintion world
Is his hair fake?
Now he got silly ahh hair
Remind me someone that had a mullet
Guxue
I don't think he did
Jjonak or aimgod?
JJoNak
How do u say this
Hacker?
Hayker?
Either or Its chineese jesus
With the parting of the red sea he will single-handedly take valiant to a championship
goated hair
holy shit its asian xqc
I don't he shown it a lot it was mid season and we saw it through a pic nyxl posted it
It was last season I don't think jkonah had it for long tho
I’m hoping and praying fs because Lengsa is great and Coldest is dog
whom?
Coolio
Oh dear lord Roston said in an interview that he wanted to go for more of a “quality over quantity approach going into this season” 💀
How do you sign a downgrade to Mano and say you want to sign quality?
“I see a lot of potential for FiXa as a long term prospect for Fusion”
5th apac*
despite losing Apr1ta, Hunters are still 2nd apac
Who third and fourth?
Ngl I forgot about them.lol
London vs titans opinion?
Creative?
Titans 3-0
Have you watching jjonak and such? They been doing like custom's with owl players on ow2 might be a good way to see what the meta might be
i know that lucio is supposed to be heavily viable which hurts to see when Fusion replaced Fastro with FiXa
I hear that a lot too from jjonak custom's I see genji quite a bit
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