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Debatable
What part is debatable
Leejaegon is in his own tier
Sparkle and fleta < kevster
No other lucio ajaxes like him
Leejaegon is the best main support
By a good margin
Over everyone
For now
Vindaim will catch up in one season
obvious
only for his flexibility
if Fastro had a great mercy or if Moth had any sort of brig i'd rather have them imo
Astro is a far worse Brig than jargon
on brig yes
not on mercy or lucio
lucio is a small gap and brig is a small gap
so therefore
ljg >= fastro/skewed
skewed brig otp
isnt bad
Mystary bad take otp
Feedjaegon
Big roster
Hope not
They need to pick a starting lineup and stick to it, too much subbing in and out will hurt them imo
Spark have so many bench riders
not really
everyone has a purpose
even bernar
bernar’s purpose is to stick around in the case of lige mental jail
architect is insane at 3 heroes
pineapple plays lrhs sometimes
Just because they have a purpose doesn’t mean they aren’t bench riders
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Fuck fusion
I don't think that games fair it's a 5v2
yoo they are playing overwatch 4
they quit foo
and for context this was 4 minutes worth
of kd
pretty average'
honestly you did pretty good that match
yeah but for a supposed gold dps player
actually
but if you can consistently get those numbers that would be more impressive
the MMR was totally reset though
can't wait to rng vs the Carpe Profit Fury JJoNak LJG squad
no?...
yes, for qp
you are just categorically incorrect
in everyones first games they got owl players and bronzes
now they get people at their level
colleseo worst map
like, my first 2 games I got owl players
I don’t think MMR was reset tbh
is it cause I went like 1-4 yesterday? maybe
then I didn’t ever again
It’s just really loose
and I got plats
^
my first game i was thrown into North America servers on 250 ping
matchmaking is really loose
???
never played QP
literally every OW2 game you can immediately tell its qp just by the feeling
I don't think I have enough to make it interesting. APAC seems like a copy-paste from last year in standings with maybe the top teams being closer together than last year.
it doesn't feel as loose anymore
which is why the game is not enjoyable
beta woulda been better if there was a comp
In ow1 qp I would generally get the same lobbies for like an hour but this is pretty loose
If you were one of those being critical of the Defiant’s continuous rebuilding efforts this might just be the season you wake up with pie on your face. The team is doing well recently and is the most likely team to make it into the top 5 based on current projections. This franchise has invested serious resources into all parts of its team and has been a pain to deal with for other organisations in bidding wars for talent. While it allegedly missed out on Yaki, it made an irresistible offer to Ch0r0ng, who is seen as a support prodigy and given the strength of Lucio in the current beta build, appears like a wise investment. Tournament participation and top 4 finishes are definitely a possibility given their scrim performances.
Yessir
Defiant top 5
Was fusion or spark better s4
fusion probably
Where they both flopped in play ins
on average fusion because 2 good stages
about the same high
Fusion dropped a map to valiant
yes
apac rule
Chengdu got two though
didnt you remember how badly they got smoked in MM
Cc and SS
I didn’t count MM
Cope
i mean its real
that is fine
Nyxl would have won grand finals if they made play ins
they recharge playoffs energy
Dayum
Chorong was gonna go to seoul
Source: chorong
Unlucky
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it’s me
it's me
Mik yes
Mystary gets rolled
just got ojee on my team now kellan is on enemy team
Start recording
I need kellan footage
Kellan is so bad!!!!
Mik checking info on a public channel
Scrimbux aren’t lying this year. The Dallas Fuel are invincible
lol
scrimbux are reliable 🤓
I have no opinion on the matter. I didn’t watch Korean contenders last year
Smart decision
^
But I trust Rush and I have heard he has great skill but played on a horrendous team
if you agreed I would’ve written you off as entirely a troll
I have seen Proper play for a bit now
instead of semi-troll
Hard to say he isn’t favored for ROTY
Kellan roty take was based though
Lol
This is the year i stop believing in scrimbucks
Excepts ATL shock glads and mayhem bucks
And i will exclusively not believe titans
Scrimbucks
They aren't
They have one tank
I'm not
False
This is the year I stop believing in the scrimbux I disagree with
Nah actually he has a point
I will only believe in scrimbucks that i agree with
Didn’t you just say
Brand new game so many new fucking patches
Tank is completely different
Hell it’s still in Beta lmao
someone is a god among men on the tankfist
can confirm I played vs him in beta
I still think Florida is going to be donkey
Fla bucks are the few scrimbucks i believe in
Trust the process
Who is getting twenty if it isn’t London
Valiant
They are getting Chengdu pieces
paris or titans
Imo it’s paris
who'll be the best doom?
Chipsa
Someone is looking like it currently
It will change definitely though
My bet is hanbin
Glads are looking good ngl
They are
Paris surely will be okay
Ngl, could see NYXL falling off hard
Dynasty also looking good
Quit spreading misinformation
yaki solos ldn
Titans are great
Yeah no one will be worse than London in NA
Where do you rank them?
At least 8th Na
Yeah that’s way to high
Paris were 8-8 with a weak schedule
Agree
And they barely upgraded
no joke Outlaws seem to have a decent team
Paris loss most of their games when their squad was trash
The power rankings are easy
They lost to defiant
Twice
With their good roster
Aspire
Easily better than Uprising Spitfire Eternal and Mayhem and have upset potential over Justice or NYXL
Nah
Aspire Heesu and Sado
Lmao
Tf do you mean “nah lmao”
true
You think Titans are worse than Uprising?
if they pick mainsupport they're set
Only team you listed Titans are better than is Spitfire
until playoffs
I don't
titans suck
Yeah Uprising definitely better
And thats what matters
boston better
You lost every inch of credibility with that statement
I believe titans will 3-0 boston
So do I
Striker washed
Valentine bottom 5 even on his niche heroes
Victoria not even a top 5 rookie hitscan
Also do yall know if this Owl season is on OW2.0 or OW1
Punk arguably bottom 1
- Dallas
- Gladiators
- Reign
- Shock
- Toronto
- Outlaws
Top 6 is easy
Compared to others in the league at least
Who’s Titans tank again?
False from AT
Faltose
Yeah exactly
Best playah
Just shut the fuck up then 😂
5th best*
dallas glads sfs outlaws toronto atl
Reiner and Sh4pe better
Has solo tank False but criticizes Punk 😂
Barely behind Sh4peShifter Beast and Wub
False doesn't get gapped by frdwnr
Besides double hitscan Titans are trash
is shock scary this year
Seicoe is the best dps coming out of EU??
Masaa the top 5 mainsupport last season?
From KR
That doesn't matter
Shock is good everywhere except at the heroes Coluge won’t be able to play
i dont know the tank thats why i was asking
Not gonna mention the viol2t lucio
Masaa also has shown massive potential to boom to the streets
why does boston have so many members
Doubt a shit organization like Titans is going to prevent that
Mid is still better than the shitter on Uprising
Agree
Boston has better supports
How many pedophiles has Boston signed again?
Boston are winning OWL
Hard disagree
1
What does that have to do with anything
Honestly Dynasty could win easily
Stop
Mouffin top 2 canadian OT in history who is also not a pedo
Well the season will prove me right
i mean they could its not like its a bad team
You said win easily???
i mean i can see them win
I really hope that was a mistype and not Mouffin/Kazper defence
not like they are the best my bad
If they won the OWL it would be the biggest surprise of the season
Kazper pedo
Mouffin not
Mouffin isn’t
He was cleared
Lol
Gladiators, Dragons, Fuel, and Atlanta just look better
Oh shit was he?
My bad
And if Chengdu didn’t fuck themselves them as well
Glads always have end of season curse tho
They had Dpei
Fuel is scary i agree
Seoul aren’t winning a thing lmao
Yeah Seoul ain’t winning shit
In perfect meta they can be dangerous
Unless there’s a stage the Dragons just throw on purpose
Agree
Never gonna win
I think they will at least travel this year
Shut up
Paris are 19
Paris are bottom 3
Seoul aren’t even top 3 apac??
L
Seriously shut the fuck up
Yes they are
Boston #20
Maybe dridro
does paris have anyone good
I like dridro
Dridrio mid
Naga is just KR valantine
Paris is like Glads they choke hard near the end so i doubt they will be better than top 6 ngl
A c tier flex dps
naga > valentine
Like besides Dragons who could possibly be better than Seoul in APAC?
They r winning shampionship
APAC is hot garbage
Actually true
Naga isn’t Korean
They aren’t
Valentine is just shit
Valentine is just really good at Genji
How is vindaim off lucio
Bigger cope than my name LUL
Unlike valantine
naga has played cree, tracer, hanzo, pharah, soldier, genji
Barely above bottom 5 as genji
But he isn't hyperflex
Vindaim brig is top tier
All bottom 5
Diffed by Teru
I meant brig
Most flex dps players have a pocket cree soldier lmao and the rest are just projectile
is it gonna be ana Lucio as Support
Lucio is like 30% mechanics
Most fdps can play hs
also can every NA person here dm me so I can block u all
NA takes are so fucking shit
Shut up
played w rupaul that guy is kinda wicked on the flex supp
Titans are better than Paris you muppet
I will bet on it
Agree
And Ashe occasionally
Sez U you saying Paris is gonna win when we all know theyre gonna choke at the end
Nah ashe is easy
Imho most fdps have decent pocket hs and hs have decent pocket fdps
She isn’t
Yeah when season starts not a single take of yours will be right
His ow2 access
yeah i have to agree Paris > Titans
Paris > Titans
???
Sans is British?
Aren’t you the guy that said Dafran would’ve been one of the best OWL players of all time if he stayed?
At first I thought Titans > Florida doubt it
josh dick is a troll sans
No way paris loses to titan
Absolutely, if he had a professional mentality Dafran would’ve been unstoppable
Dafran was a generational talent
You just don’t like him as a person
Yeah that’s cool trolling
Being a professional is about mentality
if sans had good aim and good mental he could be top tier
You thinking Titans are mid is trolling
What are you talking about
true
That wasn’t comparable
How the fuck is that trolling?
you all hurt my fucking brain
sans has the weakest mental
Same could be said for every human on the planet
Because nothing about them is mid and they haven’t shown shit
thats the joke dumbas
No you’re the joke
I play with you for a week straight is it any wonder
Dafran has incredible aim and tracking
Honestly not a bad take
sans just sucks ngl
Dafran was crazy talented lmfao
Back in the day
Ah yes False the off tank that won multiple titles on AT, sHockWave Aspire and Masaa the grand finalist isn’t mid
dw babe i just came back from vacation i will duo with u
Dafran just couldn’t handle being a professional player
Just boomee many times
Also daco
NA contenders 😂
Forced him into retirement
Oh yeah Daco was sick
Lmao
petition to ban josh dick
They scrimedd and #rolled every owl team
Ever
I am personally
Team sans
I agree, absolute joke but before it got to the stage where a mid tier KR Contenders team immediately gets a 2nd place spot False was great
how was prison?
Wait which one is sans
Damn my bad I’ll alter the tone of text
Sorry wasn’t talking about you
That luigi guy
Oh him
Not true, those are just haters
Don’t worry he’s just like that because nobody believes his sister is actually his girlfriend
Mans got some weird fantasies
Not surprising from a Paris fan…
What is that true
Lmao
Explains everything
yes @plush grail
Strange
Imagine getting your sister to be a pretend girlfriend
Peculiar behavior IMHO
@cedar oasis wait 20 mins and I'll join u in vc
And backpedaling when she admits to her genetic relationship on the mic
Ok that was bad SS
ok babe
But this is best Pr ever
IMO Toronto will end up being better then Glads but not at the start
Exact opposite
Lol
And even then glads worst position
Is also defiants worst position
It isn’t
Glads have hitscan issue
Defiant don’t
idk i feel like they will end up being better in the long run than the glads
Toronto also have small off tanker issue
Shut up
TBH i could just be overrating the Toronto players
but thats just my opinion
I tbought you were calling
What the heck @twin bloom
Agree
What did they want
They didn’t
oh i forgot about the pickems i can do that so i can decide who i think is gonna be better
They wanted greats
They did
Those are greats
My bad
They wanted dove
Dynasty
Idk about that
Tbh
The dove dynasty duo
Always looked pretty mid to me
I'm not gonna lie
Serious?
overall yes but not at start'
Fuel at one, rankings have merit
Pure scrimmage ranking
He was not even top 5 flex dps in NA
Which is very sad
Imo
Now the real question who is gonna be the worst team this year
London
london
Unless bap tracer hanzo lucio
All become meta
Their tanks gonna suck no matter what
Poko is really bad
what about east London for west
Had greats as teamates
His whole career
Tbh poko not top 2 eu off tanker
Damn what’s with the Poko slander?
Anyone would think he murdered your family and ate your mother
Those accusations are believable because he is French
He’s one of the good ones
That just sounds like xenophobia to me
Agree agree
Not only is Poko still very mechanically skilled
But he brings this air of positivity that untilts any team he plays with
Like McGravy
Even when he wasn’t playing Fusion players said that Poko behind the scenes was such a key feature to keeping spirits high and staying motivated
And now that Lodndon ditched the racist nonce, his positive effect is unstoppable
Prov1de bad person but he was apparently a good teamate
Reason he got so much hype
He wasn't that good of a player
Yeah but we don’t know how many players on Spitfire would’ve been comfortable playing with a “former” racist
Most if not all were friends
With him
Lol
Dang my view of Europe as a whole has gone down the shitter then
The reason i hyped him up is cause all his teamates
Acting like he was the 2nd coming of christ
When he was just a mid eu fs
Lol
That’s fair
I fell for the hype of 2021 Spark
Thinking Architect wouldn’t be washed and LiGe would actually play
Also Exorath won contenders with a weaker team than Pr🤮v1des on paper
He also played against AT which was an infinitely better team than anything in eu lmao
@hot onyx yes, i think people are underrating poko
He lost to AT when aspire was his teamate
But he also had gig
And karrots
Didn’t he have S9mm Lukemino and Iced at one point?
Mechanically skilled and just brings all round good vibes
Damn how’d they not win?
Cause AT
It’s almost as if he underperformed
Look he isn't a good person but he wasn't the reason darkmode got 2nd
Instead of 1st
Lol
Still not top 2 in KR though
On an individual level it’s debatable
Aspire vs Develop I’ll give
But Heesang is on another level to Speedily at least off echo
Even on echo he’d be equal
Reiner better than Kellan
Its not equal imho
Attack vs False is up for debate but I’d give slight edge to False
But supports are easily in favour of Talon
No doubt in my mind that CH0R0NG Vigilante diff OJEE UV
Toronto top 5 NA!!! I called it‼️🫵
Yeah obviously??
Their is doubt
In my mind
Personally
Best case OJEE is equal on lucio
But CH0R0NG is on another level
As brig
And Vig is just outright better than UV on everything
Disagree
Who is haker
Sombra otp
@hot onyxwanna join us
you telling me even OWL dont know?
He isn’t
On the zenny
what about me?
join vc
I’ll be home In like 40 min
What u guys doin
What's the latest on the chengdu downsizing?
.
on...?
Jae Won Lee and Jae Gon Lee
on the same team
with the same first letters for their name
Becky support 
comp for ow1
Is that their team then? I thought they were looking to shift a couple players
I’m more of an ow2 player
shut up nerd
fantasy gaming sombra player
lge huya before that
he was the best sombra in china in 2019
plays nothing else
hence the name
was on fantasy for a month at the end of 2019
aka a team in cn that got DQed from OD
did nothing
shut up
holy fucking shit
this is the new most punchable face
I have seen
Yes because Innovation is among Fleta Leave Pelican Sp9rk1e Proper and Kevster
agree
Because Nohill chose him!
nohill is jesus
Fucking hell
than rush moon crusty combined
and ninek
combined
just him
dancing naked
with a doomfist pillow
🥵
innovation?
calling haker a sombra specialist is like calling venom a tracer specialist or chipsa a doom specialist
you're looking for
"one trick"
ChipSa plays genji and Venom plays McCass
Haker one tricks Sombra into contenders championship and then retires
just cause he can
haker is the missing PIECE
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Becky best second fs no cap
no cap
@hot onyx @next mesa do you guys need more vods
Hey lsd wanna duo?
sure
Shit I didn’t think you’d say yes I’m actually busy watching hit UK sitcom “Not Going Out” with my nan
why would u ask
@balmy wolf post tag
mine is purple#12257
idk
sans join us
we have marbel
Because you said you finally got away from the EU shitters and despite brexit I’m somehow still EU
i sleep in peace
the shitters of EU
aka uvalo ian
fuck you
Aw hell yes I’m Purple approved
na shitter
I will carry this honour to the day I get buried
real way is to get on overwatch two
And I’m going to ask for cremation when my ass is fallen so the honour will be carried forever
real way is to get on overwatch two
Sitcom with nan
Give me half hour max and if I’m not on by then frogor me
hopefully sans gameplay in ow2 isn't consistant with his gameplay in superliminal 
who do y'all have for Boston v glads?
r u trolling
nah
both seem rlly good
ANS, Shu, Skewed, Space and Pati vs Striker, Valentine, Victoria, etc
u do be trolling
sheeesh
kevster slaps
support line
huge gap
tank line
huge gap
striker victoria is good doe
woops
almost said valentine there
valentine is kinda garbage
dude
Boston has MCD as well
not
both are top tier
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
that is the dumbest shit I've ever seen
jeez calm down
glads fan defensive stance
Striker Valentine Victoria is just a really good DPS line
ffs you don't need to chastise me
I remember Valentine being good last year
y'all don't need to be this rude over it
Valentine is pretty good
tbh
it's just that there isn't a single boston player that's comparable to their glads counterpart
only if ans is shit
wrong
but ans has better widow
Victoria is the goat
let me give you a comparison
reiner >> marve1/itsal
space >>> punk
ans/pati = striker/victoria
kevster >>>> valentine
fastro/skewed >>> faith
shu >> mcd/crimzo
boston’s strongest role is equal to glads weakest role
disagree because
Don’t care someone clears
ur mom clears
Clears your life
yes
marbel caught slacking
mayhem vs boston
mayhem can win
Mayhem clears
someone >> marve1/itsal
adam < punk
xzi/hydron >= striker/victoria
checkmate = valentine
anamo < faith
majed/kariv = mcd/crimzo
so
if they don’t play adam they win
someone clears
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Anamo > Faith
You should be embarrassed you said this
Dan what did you ingest?
ok sans boston isnt bottom tier
but they arent top tier either
we call teams like this "mid"
they are so much worse than mid
no
Mid is like
Yes
nah
nyxl top tier 😤
At least with Valiant you have the delusion of Nohill dragging Coldest Sasin and Innovation above bottom 5
But Lori is an embarrassment
I’ve seen better results from Changoon
Boston is still better than Titans on every position
Nah stop the cap
No shot you think Valentine is remotely close to sHockWave or Aspife
Or even Victoria
Valentine is a good player he will be much better when he’s playing his picks
His Genji is very explosive
The contenders NA hitscan worse than every contenders kr and cn hitscan that was picked up
Oh yeah the washed up shell of Striker
He’s definitely still got it for pro ow
And their org
Boston coaching is non existent
Striker hasn’t been confirmed washed
Titans at least has raw talent
Titans have two good players
4 good players and 2 risks
Masaa was literally top 5 last season??
Shockwave didn’t even fucking play last year

