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north relic
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The best main support on his two best heroes

willow tartan
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someone

hot onyx
north relic
hot onyx
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I rate Skewed brig higher

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And Fastro lucio equal

north relic
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Leejaegon is in his own tier

hot onyx
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Feeder tier?

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Frontline lucio on Eichenwalde vs Fuel tier?

devout path
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Sparkle and fleta < kevster

north relic
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No other lucio ajaxes like him

next mesa
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Leejaegon is the best main support

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By a good margin

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Over everyone

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For now

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Vindaim will catch up in one season

willow tartan
hot onyx
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only for his flexibility

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if Fastro had a great mercy or if Moth had any sort of brig i'd rather have them imo

cunning patrol
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Astro is a far worse Brig than jargon

hot onyx
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debatable

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his brig is underrated

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because funny lucio man

frosty patrol
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on brig yes

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not on mercy or lucio

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lucio is a small gap and brig is a small gap

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so therefore

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ljg >= fastro/skewed

vagrant jacinth
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I think so too

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Ljg is better on the lucio/mercy

balmy wolf
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skewed brig otp

frosty patrol
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nah

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his zen isn’t bad

balmy wolf
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isnt bad

frosty patrol
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yes

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didn’t say it’s top tier

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just

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not bad

north relic
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Mystary bad take otp

frosty patrol
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name a good mystary take

worn falcon
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Feedjaegon

frosty patrol
north relic
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Pre bedshitting spark

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Last time you see spark without a frown

vagrant jacinth
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Big roster

trim shadow
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Biggest roster in 5v5

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So naturally a team b team?

vagrant jacinth
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Hope not

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They need to pick a starting lineup and stick to it, too much subbing in and out will hurt them imo

frosty patrol
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they could not a team b team

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unless they picked up thor kyo

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or hyunjae kyo

tidal marsh
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Spark have so many bench riders

frosty patrol
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everyone has a purpose

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even bernar

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bernar’s purpose is to stick around in the case of lige mental jail

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architect is insane at 3 heroes

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pineapple plays lrhs sometimes

north relic
young fractalBOT
plush grail
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Fuck fusion

hot onyx
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"sans hold tab real quick"

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keep in mind

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for context

cloud latch
willow tartan
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yoo they are playing overwatch 4

hot onyx
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and for context this was 4 minutes worth

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of kd

willow tartan
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pretty average'

cloud latch
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honestly you did pretty good that match

hot onyx
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yeah but for a supposed gold dps player

willow tartan
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a gold dps player fighting against other gold players

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thats how matchmaking works

frosty patrol
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actually

cloud latch
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but if you can consistently get those numbers that would be more impressive

frosty patrol
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ow2 has no mmr system or a very limited one

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sans RNG’d into a bronze lobby

willow tartan
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it has the quickplay MMR system

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you are dumb mike

frosty patrol
hot onyx
willow tartan
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no?...

frosty patrol
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yes, for qp

willow tartan
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you are just categorically incorrect

frosty patrol
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in everyones first games they got owl players and bronzes

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now they get people at their level

hot onyx
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shut up colleseo

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my time to shine

cloud latch
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colleseo worst map

willow tartan
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nope

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still eichenwalde

frosty patrol
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like, my first 2 games I got owl players

tropic herald
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I don’t think MMR was reset tbh

cloud latch
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is it cause I went like 1-4 yesterday? maybe

frosty patrol
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then I didn’t ever again

tropic herald
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It’s just really loose

frosty patrol
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and I got plats

willow tartan
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^

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my first game i was thrown into North America servers on 250 ping

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matchmaking is really loose

cloud latch
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before drops the mmr was nuts

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a streamer/pro every other game

frosty patrol
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if MMR was the same then why is matchmaking so loose and weird

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it isn’t in ow1 qp

willow tartan
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???

frosty patrol
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and there’s a ton of players

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in ow2

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rn

willow tartan
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never played QP

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literally every OW2 game you can immediately tell its qp just by the feeling

tropic herald
cloud latch
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it doesn't feel as loose anymore

willow tartan
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which is why the game is not enjoyable

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beta woulda been better if there was a comp

tropic herald
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In ow1 qp I would generally get the same lobbies for like an hour but this is pretty loose

twilit oriole
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If you were one of those being critical of the Defiant’s continuous rebuilding efforts this might just be the season you wake up with pie on your face. The team is doing well recently and is the most likely team to make it into the top 5 based on current projections. This franchise has invested serious resources into all parts of its team and has been a pain to deal with for other organisations in bidding wars for talent. While it allegedly missed out on Yaki, it made an irresistible offer to Ch0r0ng, who is seen as a support prodigy and given the strength of Lucio in the current beta build, appears like a wise investment. Tournament participation and top 4 finishes are definitely a possibility given their scrim performances.

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Yessir

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Defiant top 5

north relic
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Was fusion or spark better s4

tropic herald
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They were both shit

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Except for one stage each

cloud latch
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fusion probably

tropic herald
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Where they both flopped in play ins

frosty patrol
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about the same high

tropic herald
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Fusion dropped a map to valiant

frosty patrol
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yes

willow tartan
north relic
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Chengdu got two though

willow tartan
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didnt you remember how badly they got smoked in MM

north relic
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Cc and SS

tropic herald
north relic
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I didn’t count MM

willow tartan
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CC fake stage

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cause sandbag

north relic
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Cope

willow tartan
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i mean its real

north relic
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Nyxl beat dragons

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Realist stage

willow tartan
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that is fine

north relic
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Nyxl would have won grand finals if they made play ins

willow tartan
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they recharge playoffs energy

tropic herald
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NYXL would’ve won grand finals if they weren’t shit

next mesa
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Chorong was gonna go to seoul

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Source: chorong

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Unlucky

slate siren
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When does OWL start???

tropic herald
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Next Thursday

slate siren
tropic herald
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3:00pm EST

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I wonder if we have a commanded

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!!owlcountdown

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!!owl

north relic
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!!is empathy dumb

vagrant jacinth
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Mods should make one

young fractalBOT
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Ask again later.

sly lagoon
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!!owlstart

young fractalBOT
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<t:1651777200:f>

sly lagoon
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@tropic herald

tropic herald
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TY

sly lagoon
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!!owlstart

young fractalBOT
vagrant jacinth
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Yo

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Best mod

next mesa
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Empathy retired

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Idk who is best mod anymore

frosty patrol
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mik

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easily

north relic
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it’s me

balmy wolf
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it's me

vagrant jacinth
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Mik yes

north relic
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Mystary gets rolled

tropic herald
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just got ojee on my team now kellan is on enemy team

north relic
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I need kellan footage

cunning patrol
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Kellan is so bad!!!!

north relic
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Mik checking info on a public channel

tropic herald
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they got shit on

balmy wolf
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Scrimbux aren’t lying this year. The Dallas Fuel are invincible

north relic
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scrimbux are reliable 🤓

frosty patrol
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josh

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what’s your take on guriyo best rookie dps

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came across that take today

balmy wolf
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I have no opinion on the matter. I didn’t watch Korean contenders last year

north relic
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Smart decision

frosty patrol
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^

balmy wolf
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But I trust Rush and I have heard he has great skill but played on a horrendous team

frosty patrol
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if you agreed I would’ve written you off as entirely a troll

balmy wolf
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I have seen Proper play for a bit now

frosty patrol
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instead of semi-troll

balmy wolf
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Hard to say he isn’t favored for ROTY

north relic
twin bloom
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This is the year i stop believing in scrimbucks

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Excepts ATL shock glads and mayhem bucks

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And i will exclusively not believe titans

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Scrimbucks

balmy wolf
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You’re just upset Bazzo Atlanta is behind Dallas Fuel

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Titans are shit

twin bloom
balmy wolf
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They have one tank

balmy wolf
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False

twin bloom
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Top 2

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Is good

north relic
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This is the year I stop believing in the scrimbux I disagree with

balmy wolf
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Nah actually he has a point

balmy wolf
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Scrimbux right now

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Don’t mean shit

twin bloom
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I will only believe in scrimbucks that i agree with

north relic
balmy wolf
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Brand new game so many new fucking patches

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Tank is completely different

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Hell it’s still in Beta lmao

tropic herald
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someone is a god among men on the tankfist

balmy wolf
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Scrimbux might be relevant for the beginning of stage 1

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And then die

cloud latch
balmy wolf
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I still think Florida is going to be donkey

tropic herald
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ojee god among men on genji

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kellan not a god among men on sigma

twin bloom
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Trust the process

balmy wolf
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London Spitfire will finish last though

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That’s one thing Scrimbux won’t get wrong

cloud latch
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and real

north relic
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Who is getting twenty if it isn’t London

twin bloom
north relic
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They are getting Chengdu pieces

cloud latch
north relic
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Imo it’s paris

cloud latch
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who'll be the best doom?

gloomy vector
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Chipsa

north relic
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Someone is looking like it currently

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It will change definitely though

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My bet is hanbin

gloomy vector
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Glads are looking good ngl

north relic
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They are

balmy wolf
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Ngl, could see NYXL falling off hard

gloomy vector
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Dynasty also looking good

hot onyx
cloud latch
hot onyx
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Titans are great

balmy wolf
balmy wolf
hot onyx
balmy wolf
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Yeah that’s way to high

north relic
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Paris were 8-8 with a weak schedule

twin bloom
north relic
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And they barely upgraded

gloomy vector
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no joke Outlaws seem to have a decent team

balmy wolf
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Paris loss most of their games when their squad was trash

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The power rankings are easy

twin bloom
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Twice

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With their good roster

balmy wolf
hot onyx
balmy wolf
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Nah

hot onyx
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Aspire Heesu and Sado

balmy wolf
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Lmao

hot onyx
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Tf do you mean “nah lmao”

cloud latch
twin bloom
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Paris also got ass blasted by justice

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In rush mirror

hot onyx
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You think Titans are worse than Uprising?

cloud latch
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if they pick mainsupport they're set

balmy wolf
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Only team you listed Titans are better than is Spitfire

cloud latch
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until playoffs

twin bloom
cedar oasis
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titans suck

balmy wolf
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Yeah Uprising definitely better

twin bloom
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And thats what matters

cedar oasis
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boston better

hot onyx
twin bloom
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I believe titans will 3-0 boston

hot onyx
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Striker washed

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Valentine bottom 5 even on his niche heroes

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Victoria not even a top 5 rookie hitscan

gloomy vector
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Also do yall know if this Owl season is on OW2.0 or OW1

hot onyx
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Punk arguably bottom 1

balmy wolf
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  1. Dallas
  2. Gladiators
  3. Reign
  4. Shock
  5. Toronto
  6. Outlaws
    Top 6 is easy
hot onyx
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Compared to others in the league at least

balmy wolf
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Who’s Titans tank again?

hot onyx
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False from AT

twin bloom
balmy wolf
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Yeah exactly

twin bloom
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Best playah

balmy wolf
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Just shut the fuck up then 😂

twin bloom
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Not named coluge

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So 2nd best ever

hot onyx
cloud latch
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dallas glads sfs outlaws toronto atl

hot onyx
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Reiner and Sh4pe better

tropic herald
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now im in samito game

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wtf man

balmy wolf
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Has solo tank False but criticizes Punk 😂

hot onyx
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Barely behind Sh4peShifter Beast and Wub

twin bloom
balmy wolf
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Besides double hitscan Titans are trash

gloomy vector
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is shock scary this year

hot onyx
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Seicoe is the best dps coming out of EU??

twin bloom
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Proper

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Best player

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Ever

hot onyx
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Masaa the top 5 mainsupport last season?

twin bloom
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From KR

twin bloom
balmy wolf
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Shock is good everywhere except at the heroes Coluge won’t be able to play

twin bloom
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All the MS's kinda sucked

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Last year

gloomy vector
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i dont know the tank thats why i was asking

balmy wolf
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That’s because two of the best ones barely played

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Moth and Astro

twin bloom
balmy wolf
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Oh yeah

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No Lucio lmao

hot onyx
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Masaa still played really well on Reign

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Proved himself

balmy wolf
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Masaa also has shown massive potential to boom to the streets

twin bloom
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Masaa is mid

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Imo

gloomy vector
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why does boston have so many members

balmy wolf
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Doubt a shit organization like Titans is going to prevent that

hot onyx
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Mid is still better than the shitter on Uprising

twin bloom
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Agree

balmy wolf
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Boston has better supports

hot onyx
cunning patrol
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Boston are winning OWL

hot onyx
balmy wolf
gloomy vector
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Honestly Dynasty could win easily

balmy wolf
twin bloom
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Mouffin top 2 canadian OT in history who is also not a pedo

balmy wolf
gloomy vector
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i mean they could its not like its a bad team

balmy wolf
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You said win easily???

gloomy vector
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i mean i can see them win

hot onyx
# twin bloom 1

I really hope that was a mistype and not Mouffin/Kazper defence

gloomy vector
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not like they are the best my bad

balmy wolf
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If they won the OWL it would be the biggest surprise of the season

twin bloom
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Mouffin not

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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He was cleared

cunning patrol
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Lol

balmy wolf
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Gladiators, Dragons, Fuel, and Atlanta just look better

hot onyx
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Oh shit was he?

twin bloom
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Yeah

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Lmao

hot onyx
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My bad

balmy wolf
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And if Chengdu didn’t fuck themselves them as well

gloomy vector
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Glads always have end of season curse tho

balmy wolf
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They had Dpei

gloomy vector
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Fuel is scary i agree

cunning patrol
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Seoul aren’t winning a thing lmao

balmy wolf
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Yeah Seoul ain’t winning shit

cunning patrol
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In perfect meta they can be dangerous

balmy wolf
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Unless there’s a stage the Dragons just throw on purpose

twin bloom
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Seoul will be same

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As last year

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Good in apc

cunning patrol
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Agree

twin bloom
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Never gonna win

balmy wolf
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I think they will at least travel this year

plush grail
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fuck u all

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paris will win

cunning patrol
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Shut up

north relic
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Paris are 19

cunning patrol
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Paris are bottom 3

hot onyx
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Seoul aren’t even top 3 apac??

north relic
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L

balmy wolf
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Seriously shut the fuck up

twin bloom
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Kaan and vestola

balmy wolf
hot onyx
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Boston #20

twin bloom
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Maybe dridro

gloomy vector
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does paris have anyone good

north relic
twin bloom
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Kaan dridro vestola

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Naga

balmy wolf
twin bloom
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On certain

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One plays

cunning patrol
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Stop your naga hate @twin bloom

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He is a great

twin bloom
gloomy vector
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Paris is like Glads they choke hard near the end so i doubt they will be better than top 6 ngl

twin bloom
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A c tier flex dps

plush grail
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naga > valentine

balmy wolf
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Like besides Dragons who could possibly be better than Seoul in APAC?

next mesa
balmy wolf
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APAC is hot garbage

hot onyx
cunning patrol
twin bloom
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Mah bad

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Mistype

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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Meant to say EU

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Valantine

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So worse

next mesa
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Jjonak will come back mid season

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🙏🙏

plush grail
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also valentine is just projectile isnt he

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naga is hypeflex

twin bloom
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He can play tracer

hot onyx
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Valentine is just shit

balmy wolf
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Valentine is just really good at Genji

north relic
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How is vindaim off lucio

gloomy vector
twin bloom
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Unlike valantine

plush grail
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naga has played cree, tracer, hanzo, pharah, soldier, genji

hot onyx
twin bloom
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But he isn't hyperflex

next mesa
hot onyx
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Diffed by Teru

north relic
next mesa
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Mercy okay

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Question mark is Lucio

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But he's cracked mechanically should be fine

twin bloom
gloomy vector
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is it gonna be ana Lucio as Support

north relic
cunning patrol
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Most fdps can play hs

plush grail
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also can every NA person here dm me so I can block u all

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NA takes are so fucking shit

cunning patrol
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Shut up

twin bloom
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The only HS flex dps.struggle on

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Is widow

tropic herald
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played w rupaul that guy is kinda wicked on the flex supp

hot onyx
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I will bet on it

twin bloom
cunning patrol
gloomy vector
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Sez U you saying Paris is gonna win when we all know theyre gonna choke at the end

twin bloom
cunning patrol
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Imho most fdps have decent pocket hs and hs have decent pocket fdps

cunning patrol
plush grail
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sans

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what are u betting?

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your sad british soul??

balmy wolf
north relic
gloomy vector
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yeah i have to agree Paris > Titans

balmy wolf
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Paris > Titans

north relic
cunning patrol
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Sans is British?

hot onyx
balmy wolf
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At first I thought Titans > Florida doubt it

plush grail
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josh dick is a troll sans

gloomy vector
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No way paris loses to titan

balmy wolf
plush grail
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dumb shhit take

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''if he had'' NAH shut the fuck up

cunning patrol
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Dafran was a generational talent

balmy wolf
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You just don’t like him as a person

plush grail
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''if i had god tier aim and mental i could be top tier''

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mental gymnastics mf

balmy wolf
plush grail
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if sans had good aim and good mental he could be top tier

balmy wolf
cunning patrol
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What are you talking about

balmy wolf
hot onyx
plush grail
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you all hurt my fucking brain

cedar oasis
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sans has the weakest mental

hot onyx
balmy wolf
plush grail
balmy wolf
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No you’re the joke

hot onyx
plush grail
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im joking about his shit take

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''IF I WAS GOOD I WOULD BE GOOD''

balmy wolf
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Dafran has incredible aim and tracking

cedar oasis
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sans just sucks ngl

twin bloom
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Dafran maybe dumb

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But he was a god playah

cunning patrol
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Dafran was crazy talented lmfao

twin bloom
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Back in the day

hot onyx
plush grail
balmy wolf
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Dafran just couldn’t handle being a professional player

cunning patrol
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Just boomee many times

twin bloom
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Forced him into retirement

balmy wolf
twin bloom
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Lmao

plush grail
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petition to ban josh dick

balmy wolf
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But you’re right

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Sans sounds like you are a bit butt hurt

twin bloom
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Ever

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I am personally

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Team sans

hot onyx
# balmy wolf NA contenders 😂

I agree, absolute joke but before it got to the stage where a mid tier KR Contenders team immediately gets a 2nd place spot False was great

cedar oasis
balmy wolf
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Wait which one is sans

twin bloom
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But josh dick has some arguments

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That are good

hot onyx
next mesa
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Josh dick is

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A known troll

balmy wolf
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That luigi guy

hot onyx
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Oh him

balmy wolf
hot onyx
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Don’t worry he’s just like that because nobody believes his sister is actually his girlfriend

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Mans got some weird fantasies

cunning patrol
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Not surprising from a Paris fan…

balmy wolf
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Not surprised

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Paris fan

balmy wolf
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Explains everything

hot onyx
twin bloom
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Strange

hot onyx
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Imagine getting your sister to be a pretend girlfriend

cunning patrol
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Peculiar behavior IMHO

plush grail
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@cedar oasis wait 20 mins and I'll join u in vc

hot onyx
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And backpedaling when she admits to her genetic relationship on the mic

twin bloom
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Ok that was bad SS

twin bloom
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But this is best Pr ever

cunning patrol
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Disagree

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Morhem cannot best nyxl

twin bloom
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Yiska is biased

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Relevant playahs

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Believe in titans midness

gloomy vector
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IMO Toronto will end up being better then Glads but not at the start

twin bloom
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Lol

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And even then glads worst position

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Is also defiants worst position

cunning patrol
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Glads have hitscan issue

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Defiant don’t

twin bloom
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Issue

gloomy vector
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idk i feel like they will end up being better in the long run than the glads

cunning patrol
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Toronto also have small off tanker issue

twin bloom
cunning patrol
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They do

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Hotba is bad

gloomy vector
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TBH i could just be overrating the Toronto players

twin bloom
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Oh wait

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My bad

gloomy vector
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but thats just my opinion

twin bloom
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I tbought you were calling

cunning patrol
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What the heck @twin bloom

twin bloom
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Space worse

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Than hotba

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Lmao

cunning patrol
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Imho if glads took player request serious

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#1 na

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??!!

twin bloom
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Agree

next mesa
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What did they want

twin bloom
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Hybrid

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Dannedd

cunning patrol
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They didn’t

gloomy vector
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oh i forgot about the pickems i can do that so i can decide who i think is gonna be better

cunning patrol
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They wanted greats

twin bloom
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They did

twin bloom
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My bad

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They wanted dove

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Dynasty

cunning patrol
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Dove on Ashe

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Could take on top ashes

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In overleague

next mesa
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Idk about that

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Tbh

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The dove dynasty duo

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Always looked pretty mid to me

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I'm not gonna lie

cunning patrol
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Dynasty held

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Dove back

gloomy vector
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overall yes but not at start'

balmy wolf
twin bloom
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Dynasty most overrated NA contenders player

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In history

twin bloom
cunning patrol
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If Guriyo plays well

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Fuel can contend with da hai

twin bloom
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Which is very sad

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Imo

gloomy vector
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Now the real question who is gonna be the worst team this year

twin bloom
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London

cloud latch
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london

twin bloom
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Unless bap tracer hanzo lucio

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All become meta

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Their tanks gonna suck no matter what

cunning patrol
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Poko is really bad

gloomy vector
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what about east London for west

cunning patrol
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IDK why people believe he is good

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Valiant

twin bloom
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His whole career

cunning patrol
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He was

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Decent s1

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Bad s2

twin bloom
#

He was boosted

#

S3

cunning patrol
#

Agree

#

Fury was far better

twin bloom
#

Put frdwnr on s3 fusion no difference in results from poko

#

Imho

cunning patrol
#

Tbh poko not top 2 eu off tanker

twin bloom
#

Vestola alex ksaa better

#

Molf1g at peak also better

cunning patrol
#

Agree

#

You put poko on s4 London instead of molf

#

They never take a map

hot onyx
#

Damn what’s with the Poko slander?

#

Anyone would think he murdered your family and ate your mother

cunning patrol
#

Those accusations are believable because he is French

hot onyx
#

He’s one of the good ones

cedar oasis
#

lies

#

there are no good french

hot onyx
#

That just sounds like xenophobia to me

next mesa
hot onyx
#

Not only is Poko still very mechanically skilled

#

But he brings this air of positivity that untilts any team he plays with

#

Like McGravy

#

Even when he wasn’t playing Fusion players said that Poko behind the scenes was such a key feature to keeping spirits high and staying motivated

#

And now that Lodndon ditched the racist nonce, his positive effect is unstoppable

twin bloom
#

Reason he got so much hype

#

He wasn't that good of a player

hot onyx
#

Yeah but we don’t know how many players on Spitfire would’ve been comfortable playing with a “former” racist

twin bloom
#

With him

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Lol

hot onyx
#

Dang my view of Europe as a whole has gone down the shitter then

twin bloom
#

The reason i hyped him up is cause all his teamates

#

Acting like he was the 2nd coming of christ

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When he was just a mid eu fs

#

Lol

hot onyx
#

KDG hyped up Michelle

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Doesn’t mean I hyped him up

twin bloom
#

I fell for the hype and learned my lesson

#

Skairipa

#

Better

hot onyx
#

That’s fair

twin bloom
#

But not exorath

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Lol

#

Exorath kinda bad

hot onyx
#

I fell for the hype of 2021 Spark

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Thinking Architect wouldn’t be washed and LiGe would actually play

#

Also Exorath won contenders with a weaker team than Pr🤮v1des on paper

twin bloom
#

He also played against AT which was an infinitely better team than anything in eu lmao

hot onyx
#

Yeah AT did have Reiner and Aspire at that time

#

My bad

vagrant jacinth
#

@hot onyx yes, i think people are underrating poko

twin bloom
#

But he also had gig

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And karrots

hot onyx
#

Didn’t he have S9mm Lukemino and Iced at one point?

vagrant jacinth
#

Mechanically skilled and just brings all round good vibes

twin bloom
#

Coluge as well

hot onyx
#

Damn how’d they not win?

twin bloom
#

Cause AT

hot onyx
#

It’s almost as if he underperformed

twin bloom
#

Look he isn't a good person but he wasn't the reason darkmode got 2nd

#

Instead of 1st

#

Lol

hot onyx
#

Yeah

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Reiner just carried

twin bloom
#

AT was just on another level

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In Na

#

And had way more synergy

hot onyx
#

Still not top 2 in KR though

twin bloom
#

Disagree

#

Better than talon

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Imo

hot onyx
#

On an individual level it’s debatable

#

Aspire vs Develop I’ll give

#

But Heesang is on another level to Speedily at least off echo

#

Even on echo he’d be equal

#

Reiner better than Kellan

twin bloom
hot onyx
#

Attack vs False is up for debate but I’d give slight edge to False

#

But supports are easily in favour of Talon

#

No doubt in my mind that CH0R0NG Vigilante diff OJEE UV

twilit oriole
#

Toronto top 5 NA!!! I called it‼️🫵

hot onyx
twin bloom
#

In my mind

#

Personally

hot onyx
#

Best case OJEE is equal on lucio

#

But CH0R0NG is on another level

#

As brig

#

And Vig is just outright better than UV on everything

twin bloom
#

Disagree

tropic herald
north relic
#

Who is haker

noble nexus
#

no one knows

#

that's why it's blank

tropic herald
#

Sombra otp

plush grail
#

@hot onyxwanna join us

willow tartan
#

you telling me even OWL dont know?

cunning patrol
#

On the zenny

plush grail
#

@north relic join us

#

rn

balmy wolf
plush grail
#

join vc

north relic
north relic
vagrant jacinth
#

What's the latest on the chengdu downsizing?

tropic herald
hot onyx
lost thicket
#

Jae Won Lee and Jae Gon Lee

#

on the same team

#

with the same first letters for their name

hot onyx
cedar oasis
vagrant jacinth
#

Is that their team then? I thought they were looking to shift a couple players

north relic
cedar oasis
north relic
#

and ill be right there

frosty patrol
#

lge huya before that

#

he was the best sombra in china in 2019

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plays nothing else

#

hence the name

north relic
#

china 2019

#

irrelevant

frosty patrol
#

was on fantasy for a month at the end of 2019

#

aka a team in cn that got DQed from OD

#

did nothing

next mesa
#

If nohill chose him

#

He's an instant top 5 player

cunning patrol
#

shut up

next mesa
#

:D

#

hey bitches!

lost thicket
#

holy fucking shit

#

this is the new most punchable face

#

I have seen

hot onyx
next mesa
#

agree

hot onyx
#

Because Nohill chose him!

next mesa
#

nohill is jesus

hot onyx
#

Levy

#

Nohill or Rush

next mesa
#

nohill

#

is better

hot onyx
#

Fucking hell

next mesa
#

than rush moon crusty combined

#

and ninek

#

combined

#

just him

#

dancing naked

#

with a doomfist pillow

#

🥵

hot onyx
#

Isn’t he a sombra specialist?

#

On liquipedia

next mesa
#

innovation?

frosty patrol
#

you're looking for

#

"one trick"

next mesa
#

hell yeah

#

haker plays hacker

hot onyx
frosty patrol
#

and haker played brig and doom for like two maps each

#

no difference

lost thicket
#

Haker one tricks Sombra into contenders championship and then retires

#

just cause he can

next mesa
#

haker is the missing PIECE

frosty patrol
#

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hot onyx
#

yess

#

5th dps

next mesa
#

dude

frosty patrol
#

digging up haker vods for y'all

next mesa
#

hehehe

#

nohill

#

is really just

#

getting the whole gang back to gether

#

its GREAT

hot onyx
#

Sign Farway instead at least

#

5x better than Coldest could wish to be and adds flexibility for double fs

frosty patrol
#

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next mesa
#

i trust in the coldest

north relic
#

i get to play ow2 now

#

without the EU shitters

frosty patrol
#

any other vods needed?

#

I got 2

lost thicket
next mesa
#

no cap

frosty patrol
#

@hot onyx @next mesa do you guys need more vods

hot onyx
north relic
frosty patrol
#

of haker

#

or can I go

hot onyx
# north relic sure

Shit I didn’t think you’d say yes I’m actually busy watching hit UK sitcom “Not Going Out” with my nan

north relic
#

@balmy wolf post tag

#

mine is purple#12257

#

idk

lost thicket
#

huevon

next mesa
#

i dont need haker vods

#

because i know nohill has watched them and approved

hot onyx
next mesa
#

i sleep in peace

north relic
#

aka uvalo ian

cedar oasis
#

fuck you

hot onyx
#

Aw hell yes I’m Purple approved

cedar oasis
#

na shitter

hot onyx
#

I will carry this honour to the day I get buried

north relic
hot onyx
#

And I’m going to ask for cremation when my ass is fallen so the honour will be carried forever

north relic
hot onyx
#

Give me half hour max and if I’m not on by then frogor me

sly lagoon
# north relic sure

hopefully sans gameplay in ow2 isn't consistant with his gameplay in superliminal tracerkek

north relic
#

the ow2 death sound effect sounds like my doorbell

#

im gettign baited

raw ermine
#

who do y'all have for Boston v glads?

north relic
#

r u trolling

next mesa
#

xcm

#

is in strong contention for me

#

as best mod

#

after empathy's retirement

raw ermine
#

nah
both seem rlly good
ANS, Shu, Skewed, Space and Pati vs Striker, Valentine, Victoria, etc

next mesa
#

u do be trolling

#

sheeesh

#

kevster slaps

#

support line

#

huge gap

#

tank line

#

huge gap

#

striker victoria is good doe

#

woops

#

almost said valentine there

#

valentine is kinda garbage

raw ermine
#

see?
both are good

#

Its tough for me

next mesa
#

dude

raw ermine
#

Boston has MCD as well

next mesa
#

stop trolling

#

um

#

but

#

shu

#

shits on

raw ermine
#

not

raw ermine
#

both are top tier

next mesa
#

um

#

no

#

they are not

#

even remotely

#

comparable

#

(?)

noble nexus
#

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

#

that is the dumbest shit I've ever seen

raw ermine
#

jeez calm down

north relic
#

glads fan defensive stance

raw ermine
#

Striker Valentine Victoria is just a really good DPS line

next mesa
#

um

#

dont include valentine in there

#

and even then

north relic
#

guys fusion or chengdu???

#

fusion have a really good dps line

raw ermine
#

ffs you don't need to chastise me
I remember Valentine being good last year
y'all don't need to be this rude over it

noble nexus
#

Valentine is pretty good

#

tbh

#

it's just that there isn't a single boston player that's comparable to their glads counterpart

next mesa
#

striker

#

on

#

one hero

#

victoria hitscan

noble nexus
#

ohhh actually yeah

#

forgot he exists

next mesa
#

could compete

#

with ans

#

on anything that's not widow

#

IMO

noble nexus
#

only if ans is shit

next mesa
#

no no

#

victoria is a

#

stronger hitscan overall

noble nexus
#

wrong

next mesa
#

but ans has better widow

cunning patrol
#

Victoria is the goat

frosty patrol
#

reiner >> marve1/itsal
space >>> punk
ans/pati = striker/victoria
kevster >>>> valentine
fastro/skewed >>> faith
shu >> mcd/crimzo

north relic
#

nah

#

striker victoria >>> ans pati

frosty patrol
#

boston’s strongest role is equal to glads weakest role

frosty patrol
tropic herald
#

Don’t care someone clears

frosty patrol
#

ans hard hs better

#

striker everything else better

next mesa
tropic herald
next mesa
#

yes

tropic herald
next mesa
#

because she sat on my face

#

and she's too thicc

north relic
#

marbel caught slacking

frosty patrol
north relic
#

mayhem can win

tropic herald
#

Mayhem clears

frosty patrol
#

someone >> marve1/itsal
adam < punk
xzi/hydron >= striker/victoria
checkmate = valentine
anamo < faith
majed/kariv = mcd/crimzo

#

so

#

if they don’t play adam they win

#

someone clears

young fractalBOT
next mesa
#

at this point

#

im about 2 block zeppelin fr

frosty patrol
#

anamo

#

is kinda

#

cringe

next mesa
#

faith clears

#

anamo

#

no cap

worn falcon
#

Yes cap

#

The heck you guys smoking

north relic
#

you call leejaegon feedjaegon

#

also faith is a lot better than anamo

cunning patrol
worn falcon
#

embarrassed?

#

LMFAO

hot onyx
north relic
#

ok sans boston isnt bottom tier

#

but they arent top tier either

#

we call teams like this "mid"

hot onyx
#

they are so much worse than mid

north relic
#

no

hot onyx
#

Mid is like

cunning patrol
hot onyx
#

NYXL

#

Charge

worn falcon
#

nah

hot onyx
#

Fusion even if we’re being daring

#

Boston has bad players and bad coaching

north relic
#

nyxl top tier 😤

hot onyx
#

At least with Valiant you have the delusion of Nohill dragging Coldest Sasin and Innovation above bottom 5

#

But Lori is an embarrassment

#

I’ve seen better results from Changoon

balmy wolf
#

Boston is still better than Titans on every position

hot onyx
#

Nah stop the cap

balmy wolf
#

It’s true

#

Besides snipers I guess

hot onyx
#

No shot you think Valentine is remotely close to sHockWave or Aspife

hot onyx
#

Or even Victoria

balmy wolf
#

Valentine is a good player he will be much better when he’s playing his picks

#

His Genji is very explosive

hot onyx
#

The contenders NA hitscan worse than every contenders kr and cn hitscan that was picked up

balmy wolf
#

They have Striker

#

He destroys Shockwave and Aspire

hot onyx
#

Oh yeah the washed up shell of Striker

balmy wolf
#

Titans support line is also garbage

#

And their coaching

hot onyx
#

He’s definitely still got it for pro ow

balmy wolf
#

And their org

hot onyx
#

Boston coaching is non existent

balmy wolf
#

Striker hasn’t been confirmed washed

hot onyx
#

Titans at least has raw talent

balmy wolf
#

Titans have two good players

hot onyx
#

Masaa was literally top 5 last season??

balmy wolf
#

Shockwave didn’t even fucking play last year