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that was not jest

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also you are back

radiant plover
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Yep, had a question about eSports for OW

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omg

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this is really funny actually

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bringing in the mods because you cant go on youtube

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unlucky

radiant plover
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Can anyone tell me the reason behind London Spitfire being with C9, and is there any other team like TSM, EG, etc that have OW teams?

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but

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t1 owns

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philly fusion

pliant pond
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This is a warning to everyone in chat. Use this channel for it's intended purpose. Friends or not, there are others in chat who are not as well acquainted with you so don't be too nuts crazy as not everyone will get it. Be respectful to each other and if you can't do that, take a breather and walk away.

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!!movingon

young fractalBOT
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Moving swiftly onwards

frosty patrol
radiant plover
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T1 the Korean Org?

frosty patrol
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misfits own mayhem

willow tartan
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Yeah bro.

frosty patrol
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immortals kind of own valiant

willow tartan
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c9 IS london, that's just their franchise slot.

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immortals

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should

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get the fuck out

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of esports

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as a whole

willow tartan
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Outlaws is optic

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fuck optic

willow tartan
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Atlanta is faze

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optic

frosty patrol
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nrg is shock

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fuck optic

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optic is garbage

willow tartan
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Dallas is envy

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garbage org

frosty patrol
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gen. g is seoul

willow tartan
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Fusion is partially owned by T1

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mike

willow tartan
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shared w comcast

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are you googling

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rn

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i can tell

frosty patrol
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no

radiant plover
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I am curious why the teams were made to go with this style of naming instead of the org names they use normally. There was an attempt to do this to counter-strike years and years ago when they had them on a satellite TV Channel. Each team participated in like 3-4 games, and were named after a city.

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fr

frosty patrol
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atlanta is cox

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funny name

willow tartan
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It's the American sports franchise system

frosty patrol
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spark is bilibili

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City Name

willow tartan
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thats legit it

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Team Name

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if it wasnt franchised

frosty patrol
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justice is some randomass enterpreneur

willow tartan
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if it wasnt franchised

frosty patrol
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uprising is robert kraft

willow tartan
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look at apex lol

frosty patrol
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levy I never have to google

radiant plover
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For example, LCS is franchised. Lots of League of Legends is franchised, they don't do this.

frosty patrol
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I'm just degenerate

willow tartan
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LCS has promo and relegation

radiant plover
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No they don't.

willow tartan
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???

radiant plover
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Not for several years

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just look at COD

radiant plover
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Its been the same 10 teams

willow tartan
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Is that all of league?

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they just choose to not have the city naming convention

willow tartan
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I thought league t1 scene wasnt franchised

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not that important

willow tartan
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so they kept the names cuz popularity

radiant plover
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No, but several of the ecosystems, such as LEC (EU's LCS) and several others. There are however some that are still not franchised, but riot has pushed for them to go that way for a while.

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Yeah, I can see that. I, as someone who's not been watching much OWL find it easier to recognize these Orgs than the team name changes.

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So if I support C9, I would be a Spitfire fan correct?

willow tartan
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If you support C9 I'll be sorry for you in overwatch

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yes

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however

radiant plover
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Who are the Spitfire rivalries to watch?

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spitfire is dogshit

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fusion

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and

north relic
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paris

willow tartan
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The othe EU team

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yeah

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tf u mean titans

north relic
radiant plover
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That's alright to me. C9 doesn't do great all the time in other games either.

north relic
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BREADBOWL

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Rematch

willow tartan
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^^

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oooo

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good point good point

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spitfire

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according to my humongous brain

frosty patrol
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paris and titans basically

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is the worst team in owl

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this season

frosty patrol
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^

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unlucky

frosty patrol
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not close

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landon is

willow tartan
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nah nah nah

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just not that good

willow tartan
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hadi redemption arc

north relic
radiant plover
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Have they said whether or not OWL will be moving to OW2 when it releases, or will they be seperate if OW2 goes in to the professional competitive scene?

willow tartan
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yes

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its played on the beta

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it will be on ow2

willow tartan
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mhm

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profit is about to win

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the first season of owl

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played on ow2

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trust

radiant plover
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OW2 is 5 v 5 right? What happens to the 6th person?

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trust the process

willow tartan
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not in the game

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lol

willow tartan
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think like cod switching to 4 players

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imo it feels fine

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for now

radiant plover
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I've never played COD

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but the queue times are still fucked

radiant plover
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So each team fired a player for OW2?

willow tartan
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no

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no

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rosters always go through changes

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in the off season

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they just made these changes accordingly

north relic
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Don’t want to spread on player out

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Unless your tank partner is Vulcan

willow tartan
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the other player traditionally played certain heroes, however, since the two player's positions are merged then you need a player able to play each of the champions that they are good at

north relic
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😭😭😭

willow tartan
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it's like specialists

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@frosty patrol

radiant plover
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So did the rosters stay 6 man, but they sub one in or out? Or just drop one person entirely from all the teams, and the one tank now learns all the tanks to play?

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i got the key

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but like

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should i really

willow tartan
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download overwatch on my computer

willow tartan
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different teams are trying different things

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a lot of subs

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extra players

radiant plover
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Oh, didn't know that.

willow tartan
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crusty what is the org that owns the chengdu hunters since you are a big simp

radiant plover
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How many are typically on a team?

willow tartan
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plz answer mr mike

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minimum is 7

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some teams go up to like 12+

frosty patrol
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huya

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usually hover around

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9-10

radiant plover
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Oh dang thats a lot.

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yes

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internal scrims

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hero specialists

willow tartan
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2 tank 3 dps 3 support is the ideal amount

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frosty patrol
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teams have rosters 6-9 in size rn

north relic
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isnt it

frosty patrol
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yes

radiant plover
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In LCS its mostly just 5. Some teams rotate with their minor league (academy team) a lot. So I supposed its a 10 man team, but they have to be able to field 5 men for each league and they can't play in both leagues in the same week.

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new minimum is 6

willow tartan
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yeah but there are a lot of different playstyles in ow

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it was 7

willow tartan
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sometimes the meta calls for two snipers, or two projectile dps

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or sometimes the meta calls for something stupid like double off tank

radiant plover
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Any bans in OW since the heroes or w/e they are called have grown quite as bit?

willow tartan
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there was bans in 2021

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not bans like in league

willow tartan
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we dunno if they will be on ow2

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i wish

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i think more heroes will be good

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well no shit

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i meant

willow tartan
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not pick and ban phase

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more heroes so that there can be bans

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no

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i like pick and ban phase

radiant plover
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Ah, yeah I meant pick and ban

willow tartan
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certain heroes were banned for a whole tournament

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as an idea

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pick and ban phase would be super sick

radiant plover
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I just think there a lot of heroes now. Maybe could ban 2 a side or something

frosty patrol
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there's only 33

willow tartan
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i mean

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i think when it cracks 40

willow tartan
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pick n bans have been in owlesports before

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u can ban 1 tank 1 sup 2 dps

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in runaway vs lunatic hai showmatch

radiant plover
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I suppose it depends on how many of each role there are. Would be pretty nasty to ban out an entire role.

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and it was fucking sexy

willow tartan
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yes

earnest leaf
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no bans until we get like 50 heroes imo

willow tartan
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bans but in OWL only

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i think would work

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even right now

earnest leaf
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eh

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bans would hold too much power and just create a boring ban meta

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lowkey it would

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it would be way spicier

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imo

earnest leaf
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basically ban x hero until they get nerfed

willow tartan
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no because not all teams are good at the same thing

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exactly

north relic
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until you ban sparkle's one trick

earnest leaf
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No it would just be boring

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earnest leaf
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It would boil down to what hero is good at the moment

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and then ban them

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they are so prepared

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for u to ban genji

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wait what???

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ATL left genji open??

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should fuel pick genji??

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oh my gosh

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sparkle picked genji!

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WAIT WHATS THIS

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ATL IS RUNNING A FULL COUNTER GENJI COMP

willow tartan
north relic
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DOHA ON WIDOWMAKER?

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😱 THEY EXPECTED THIS

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WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING??

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spicy as fuck bro

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u guys know that moment

willow tartan
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but i think for certain teams bans can make or break them

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they didnt ban leblan

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leblanc

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against faker

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i forgot who

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was it samsung

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leblanc is faker's best champion

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and faker picked leblanc

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but then samsung fucked him

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it was crazy

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so spicy

willow tartan
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ban sombra against dragons ?

earnest leaf
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currently in OW there isn't enough variety in how certain heroes work

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Banning one hero can essentially cuck an entire playstyle, that's boring imo

willow tartan
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i dont think that will ever really be the case

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cuz ow is a fps

earnest leaf
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ban lucio? no rush this match!

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its your decision

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if your team

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is good at rush

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even if lucio is busted

willow tartan
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using sym to close distances in brawl gigachad

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you would want to keep lucio open

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unbanned*

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bans would be kinda sick

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i agree with flameknight to an extent that

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theres not enough heroes

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rn

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optimally

willow tartan
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but

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it would still work

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but imo

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its still doable now

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and its definitely

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the optimal play

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imo

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like

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endgame wise

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say ow stops releasing heroes after 50

north relic
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the problem though is that it means that teams have to split playtime to practice different comps and shit cause they dont know what the enemy is gonna ban

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i only follow faker

willow tartan
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so itll be like weekly hero bans all over again

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i am attracted to god players that are kinda washed up

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profit, jehong, etc

willow tartan
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so actually yeah thinking about it it wouldnt work very good

earnest leaf
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i'd be fine with hero bans so long as there were more alternatives to current heroes

willow tartan
earnest leaf
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just taking a whole hero out of play atm does too much

willow tartan
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i thought he was doing good

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faker and t1

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is fucking

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the entire korea region

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right from the behind

willow tartan
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yeah but isnt that normal

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in extreme dominate fashion

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no its not

willow tartan
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do well in lck choke at worlds

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not this dominant

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in like 3-4 years

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at least

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last year was t1's best year in 3-4 years

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this year lck

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they broke the fuckin record

willow tartan
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i just check

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anyway

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Honestly

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They did about as good as they were expected

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Going into worlds

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They were expected to be #2 behind damwon

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And they lost to the semis very closely to damwon

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What's surprising is damwon losing to that Chinese team

willow tartan
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damtwo

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i don't really understand league but i watch it anyways (like watching football or the olympics) and seeing 2/5ths of the population of china flooding the streets after EDG's victory was very entertaining

tropic herald
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He back

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ED should five stack and diff the Paris eternal

gusty rampart
north relic
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Shut up combat frog

cunning patrol
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for once hes right

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kellan is not very good

gusty rampart
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Scrimbux have been saying he's actual doodoo

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Literally should've gotten Sado instead

static pond
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Random question but um how I move a tab around my screen? Lol

gusty rampart
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I forgor 💀

static pond
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Ok I remember you have to click and hold down on the tab

bleak lily
cunning patrol
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no

bleak lily
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He got second place

static pond
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So who was first?

bleak lily
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02

mortal cipher
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02 and T1 are usually 1st and 2nd then Talon

static pond
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Idk how good he is but there some.hype around him

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Not the first time nyxl ruined there tanks tho

mortal cipher
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yeah

static pond
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By the looks of it wast there more hype around mag then him?

mortal cipher
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well mag was supposedly the best upcoming tank

gusty rampart
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He was by no means bad

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Just not like the god send to this earth

static pond
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Washington justice was just bad not bad but not coach right imo

mortal cipher
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They just had a rought year

static pond
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But he did give fearless a run for him money many times if I remember?

mortal cipher
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tru

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that one time

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or a few

twin bloom
gusty rampart
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im37 overhated

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He wasn't the problem with Boston

twin bloom
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He was very middling

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And and an awful tracer

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Imo

gusty rampart
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Yeah but most hitscans aren't amazing at Tracer

static pond
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Not amazing but they need to play tracer imo

gusty rampart
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Not really

static pond
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Looks like a lot of hitscan can flex to tracer

gusty rampart
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Goats like diem and ANS never played Tracer

mortal cipher
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they never needed to

static pond
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Diem didn't really live up to the hype on dragons thi

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Thi

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Tho*

gusty rampart
static pond
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Feels like when diem played they had rough matches

gusty rampart
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?????

mortal cipher
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he did in s2 but then fleta and lip came in s3 and were far better than diem

static pond
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Ye

gusty rampart
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Watch any s3 Shanghai match challenge

mortal cipher
gusty rampart
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Diem was dominant

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Carpe is overhated

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He's still a goat imo

static pond
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Wast he played for the widow tho over lip?

mortal cipher
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carpe is last s1 player on the same team

mortal cipher
static pond
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Thought it was widow

mortal cipher
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lip had a better ashe yet they but diem on ashe

static pond
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Ngl

mortal cipher
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it was more ashe but he was better at widow

static pond
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Feels like they should play.lip around that time

mortal cipher
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yeah

static pond
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Diem ist bad just lip more flexible

mortal cipher
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yeah

gusty rampart
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Yeah

static pond
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And works better fleta around that time

mortal cipher
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fleta is just insane

static pond
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Whoru living the happy life rn

mortal cipher
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wait till ow2 where genji is actually good

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whoru unleashed

static pond
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Now we need is haksal back in the league

mortal cipher
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yeah

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ngl i did watch a game of him on seoul and his genji was nasty

static pond
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Whoru?

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Or haksal

mortal cipher
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whoru i believe

static pond
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If I remember whoru and haksal were two of the best og genjis

mortal cipher
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wasnt he known as a top tier genji

static pond
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Back in Apex

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Ya

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His rival was whoru

mortal cipher
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like if you look up shanghai genji theres a picture that pops up in images of the top 5 genjis at the time

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there was agilities as well

static pond
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Nah super was better then him

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On genji

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Lmao I'm kidding

mortal cipher
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lol

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super genji unretired

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super genji

gusty rampart
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Haksal and SP9RK1E are the goats of Genji

mortal cipher
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sp9rk1e now whoru or haksal then

gusty rampart
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Haksal was such a flex god I miss him

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Mf plays Brig better than most MS

static pond
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Wast he like mad good with brig?

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Wait does shock have a main support?

mortal cipher
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lucio violet

static pond
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Oh God

mortal cipher
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essentially they dont have one so theyre basically gambling on a flex meta but judging by things flex support isnt looking likely

static pond
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They should do a Lucio 1v1 tournament and put violet in it

mortal cipher
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mccree violet

gusty rampart
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Wait

mortal cipher
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isnt UV a flex

gusty rampart
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I forgor UV was a flex

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Got him and Ojee mixed up

mortal cipher
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lol

gusty rampart
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I'm leaving this community

mortal cipher
gusty rampart
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I love how I can remove colors whenever I want

static pond
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I wanna see them put Violet on tank

mortal cipher
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violet ball returns

gusty rampart
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Viol2t OT probably wouldn't be that bad unironically

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Most FS are decent at OT

mortal cipher
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yeah

static pond
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Tbh I think violet gonna go to Ms now

earnest leaf
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He'll just be their lucio player

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he'll still play FS though

static pond
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Against the o2 blast he was put on Lucio while the other fs was put on zen

mortal cipher
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oof

earnest leaf
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I hope to god viol2t's lucio ends up being fine and people lose their shit

mortal cipher
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that would be some fresh air to see a good violet lucio

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just dont put him on dps pls

earnest leaf
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also the viol2t dps narrative was super annoying as well

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he played iirc like 5 maps total on dps

mortal cipher
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they also put glister on tracer when striker was on the bench

earnest leaf
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39 minutes of cree where he went 2-2 map wise, then 6 minutes of echo

static pond
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Ye

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Glister can play tracer but he not amazing

mortal cipher
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danteh was coaching shocks own team he literally said " put striker on tracer :

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"

static pond
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Even when under pressure

earnest leaf
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who knows what shock was trying to do early season

mortal cipher
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danteh shot calling shock

earnest leaf
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with all the shit we've heard too

mortal cipher
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they were trying to let every player play

static pond
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And that cost them

mortal cipher
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yeah you saw the houston match on dorodo was just a steamroll

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it was so bad

earnest leaf
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shock did like 30 things really badly vs houston that series

static pond
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Ye but then karma hit Houston when they went against Washington lol

mortal cipher
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houston just had a problem they could beat the shock but not the teams that mattered

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they were the first team to beat shock twice tho

static pond
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And to be fair Washington got there shit together and outplayed outlaws

mortal cipher
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yeah honestly Washington got lucky but if im honest regardless of how went into playoffs they wouldve gotten swept either way

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imo at least except maybe against the shock

static pond
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Ya I think Philly vs Washington would have been nice to see

mortal cipher
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yeah

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honestly it was a good playoff overall

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i do find it funny how people justifying shock being able to win was that they looked good agains the defiant

static pond
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Lol really?

mortal cipher
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yeah i saw a few

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im not hating defiant but they were in the middle and shock statistically have always beaten the Toronto Defiant

static pond
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Ye

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Defiant being mid till the end

mortal cipher
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they were some shaky times but that was probably simply heesu being a nutcase as always

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defiant and houston are the ones who have never won anything

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hopefully this year Defiant can actually be above the gatekeepers not middle but before you get to the top tier

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i think Defiant has basically become the new Atlanta Reign

static pond
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I think defiant made more money then outlaws tho

mortal cipher
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oof

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houston almost got to go to hawai'i but had to 4-nil curse and had to face dallas twice and every time since

static pond
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Meta wast in there favor also happy needed to play Sombra and tracer

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As Dante couldn't play both

twilit oriole
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I have faith in them this year

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Their backline is just crazy

earnest leaf
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I think their support line is good enough to win them most games vs worse teams

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But once they start going against teams with really good tanks/dps AND supports, they won't be able to keep up

twilit oriole
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The thing I’m not a fan of is finale😔 wish although was there

static pond
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The real question is will defiant keep the same team when the season over?

earnest leaf
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No

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They'll keep twilight and chorong, then sign the scraps of other teams and go mid again

static pond
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Lmao true

earnest leaf
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or if they're smart (if they see little success this season) they blow it up at the front office and find people who are more competent

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in terms of building a winning roster

gusty rampart
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Defiant very mid DPS line

twilit oriole
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Fixer upper your team where it’s weak

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And that’s where they’re weak

static pond
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Apparently there signed on a 3 year contract

twilit oriole
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Not everyone

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I doubt finale is signed on a 3 year contract

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I think it’s the support line heesu and muze

trim shadow
next mesa
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3 year contracts

trim shadow
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They have that much “faith” in them?

earnest leaf
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so the staff is dumb

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besides long contracts for the really good players

mortal cipher
earnest leaf
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iirc a lot of owl contracts are usually 1 year +1 contracts

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or 2+ 1

trim shadow
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Probably the most well rounded roster in NA and looks like they can adapt to anything

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But the last time i said a team was well rounded they were fighting for scraps over last place in apac

static pond
#

Who do y'all think valient is gonna there first win against this season?

earnest leaf
#

charge

mortal cipher
#

or spark

next mesa
#

cuz they are going 24-0 no cappa

mortal cipher
#

lol

static pond
#

I could see it being charge.,philly or sparks

mortal cipher
#

philly is the least likely

static pond
#

Ye

earnest leaf
#

their first match is charge

mortal cipher
#

so charge

static pond
#

But they did give them a round win

mortal cipher
#

valiant gives them a pity point

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Diya redemption time

next mesa
#

ez W

mortal cipher
#

easy peasy Japaneasy

twilit oriole
mortal cipher
#

they count be the team before you get to the top 5/6 teams

trim shadow
#

Choiseiwan is still out with a injury right so all that stands in the way is eileen

mortal cipher
#

valiant get their first win day 1

twilit oriole
#

Wait CSW is out?

#

Nvm

mortal cipher
#

lol

static pond
#

Lmao

trim shadow
#

Yes dont know when he will return tho

twilit oriole
#

Yeah prolly charge then

trim shadow
#

Either or being a charge fan must not be a good time right now

mortal cipher
#

they got championship Develop and Molly but lets see how they do as a starter roster

trim shadow
#

I remember seeing guangzhou

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And being like oh shit they are scaryt

twilit oriole
#

One week away from opening weekend wow, Time is abouta fly

mortal cipher
#

8 or 7 days left

twilit oriole
#

Well rn 8

#

But in 1 hour

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7

mortal cipher
#

yeah

twilit oriole
#

Who do you for

#

NYXL

#

Or glads

trim shadow
#

Develop only played 1 match for shanghai right?

mortal cipher
#

me???

twilit oriole
#

I have glads

#

Yeah

static pond
#

Glads

twilit oriole
#

Same

mortal cipher
earnest leaf
#

remember when develop was super hyped up coming out of contenders

twilit oriole
mortal cipher
earnest leaf
#

then just never played on dragons outside of a map or two

twilit oriole
#

They seem good

#

But

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After this signing

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And the support line

#

Idk

mortal cipher
earnest leaf
#

nyxl feels like toronto to me in a way

static pond
#

Nyxl is just mayham

earnest leaf
#

but instead of a nasty support line, a nasty dps line

mortal cipher
#

yeah basically

earnest leaf
#

middling tank middling supports

mortal cipher
#

the only good thing nyxl has is dps

trim shadow
#

So technically valiant has another rookie roster even tho lengsa played a couple of games and sasin but they were never starters? Sasin maybe

twilit oriole
#

I don’t have trust in a bottom 10 NA support line

#

Myu was not good

mortal cipher
#

is pickems available to pred yet

twilit oriole
#

Gnj was decent

twilit oriole
mortal cipher
static pond
#

Myu looked good on a bad team

twilit oriole
#

Yo we should do DraftBuff

static pond
#

Which is pretty easy

mortal cipher
#

lol

trim shadow
#

It is proven

#

Myunbong was handicapped by boston

twilit oriole
#

We should host a draft buff

mortal cipher
#

yeah

twilit oriole
#

I think it’s out

static pond
#

Myu has a lot to prove this season

mortal cipher
#

for sure

earnest leaf
#

Myunbong is A tier at ana, then mid on the other FSs

trim shadow
#

Myunbong and gangnamjim are probably the best support line in na…probably but the rest of the team is all over the place Yaki is flight or fight same with flora Tank position is a fat ?

twilit oriole
#

Anyways DraftBuff

#

Wanna host it

twilit oriole
trim shadow
#

probably

#

It really boils down to team synergy

#

And if they will just get handicapped again deadlifting on ana or Moira play

twilit oriole
#

Apparently ans is holding down glads

#

He isn’t performing to well

mortal cipher
#

so who is going to win day one matches

twilit oriole
#

Def glads

#

Who else plays?

trim shadow
#

Right i forgot the missing piece

#

Kuki is leading the charge

twilit oriole
static pond
#

Ya

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So

earnest leaf
#

all i've heard about glads scrimbux is that they're good and pati is doing better than expected

#

haven't heard anything on ans

trim shadow
#

So i think nyxl will be fine

mortal cipher
#

shock v paris and reign v florida aslo play day 1

trim shadow
#

Kuki managed to turn florida around all be it short lived

twilit oriole
mortal cipher
#

its usually 3 games day 1 and on na region

static pond
#

I wanted to see fuel vs shock on day one tbh

trim shadow
mortal cipher
mortal cipher
# twilit oriole Yeah

like we thought reign was gonna struggle but reign look less depenent on one player and look improved compared and shock may fall but they look good with their rookies

twilit oriole
#

Tbf defiant almost made Hawaii over reign, pelican buff was real

mortal cipher
#

yeah

#

that was duley to heesu going insane on hanzo tho

#

heesu was carrying

twilit oriole
#

Imagine if he had actual team mates to help

mortal cipher
#

yeah

#

like this year

twilit oriole
#

Yeah

earnest leaf
#

imagine a universe where shock got pelican/piggy

#

so they would have a dps line of proper/kilo/pelican

mortal cipher
#

proper pelican reunion

trim shadow
#

We already have the o2 element mystic super team at dallas we dont need no more unbalance Kekw

mortal cipher
#

tru

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3 super teams would be too much

trim shadow
#

My fucking god dallas looks good and for the first time i dont feel rage looking at them

mortal cipher
#

you felt rage last year???

trim shadow
#

Well heres the story and that goes before last season

static pond
#

Fearless on hog was rage

trim shadow
#

To sum it up

earnest leaf
#

with how tanks are looking I think dallas will do really well

mortal cipher
#

shanghai making dallas change their entire comp

trim shadow
#

Bad decisions playing below there level

#

And then sparkle happened

earnest leaf
#

hyper aggressiveness feels rewarded over passiveness a lot more now

trim shadow
#

Generally suprised me to see the curse end

earnest leaf
#

Dallas front office did it right

trim shadow
#

Now I celebrate them

mortal cipher
#

well those who burn blue burn brightest

earnest leaf
#

blow it up, re-do the coaches, find someone who knows what they're doing and let them have roster control

trim shadow
#

I take even greater pride we cockblocked dallas out of a grand finals apperance

mortal cipher
#

maybe houston can have their curse broken

static pond
#

And buy optic

trim shadow
#

Just to get…

#

Run over by a super team

mortal cipher
#

i might lets be honest nei one was gonna beat Shanghai

earnest leaf
#

at the end of the season yea

#

meta was too perfect for them

mortal cipher
#

people were over saying shock couldve

trim shadow
#

I mean yea shanghai were ridiculously good it was basically sealed they were taking gf

mortal cipher
#

yeah

trim shadow
#

I dont even think dallas couldve cause they were still one dimensional they were just rlly fuckin good at the comp they played

#

But shanghai were just peak overwatch

static pond
#

People were meming the dragons for picking shock lol

mortal cipher
#

people were over there saying shock and dallas wouldve made it close yet the games the played against shanghai before the grand finals werent even close

mortal cipher
#

we all said rip shock fans

trim shadow
#

Shanghai 3-1 dallas
Shanghai 3-0 shock
Lmao

mortal cipher
#

peoples minds - Dallas or Shock wouldve made it close

#

the score says difference

#

the only lost two maps

trim shadow
#

Now that i look back at the brack chengdu bowing out to shock really makes me depressed

static pond
#

The shock vs dragons was personal lol

earnest leaf
#

choi made leave and jinmu his bitch for half the series

#

was great

mortal cipher
#

it was thought of from moon since last grand finals

static pond
#

Apparently crusty was moon student

mortal cipher
#

even better

#

its funny they day they rolled them on hanamura i did the exact some thing in a game the same day

static pond
#

They sent a message to na and a message to his student lol

trim shadow
#

I just remembered we almost made overwatch history with having 3 winless teams until the scrip writers said one team has to win

mortal cipher
#

it was a 3-nil statement

#

wot if they ended in a draw

static pond
#

Moon would force owl to run that shit back lol

trim shadow
#

They shouldve allowed the 3 winless teams come on script writers pepehappy

#

Cause this year there is definitely no winless teams

mortal cipher
#

but valiant was the worst winless team in history

sullen berry
static pond
#

Idk I mean London

sullen berry
#

Nah fr real, can they

trim shadow
#

If valiant goes 2 years winless can we just disband them

sullen berry
mortal cipher
static pond
#

Are they streaming?

sullen berry
#

That's a Seoul Dynasty 2 roster if I've ever seen one

trim shadow
sullen berry
#

Only for the nostalgia, nothing more

mortal cipher
static pond
trim shadow
#

There was absolutely no hope from valiant

mortal cipher
trim shadow
#

It was a tier 3 team

mortal cipher
#

they just caused philly to not make a tourney

trim shadow
#

Apperantly valiant only took 2 maps last year

mortal cipher
#

its funny for the london game a comment perfectly summarizes it " the winners look defeated and the losers look promising "

mortal cipher
static pond
trim shadow
#

That chengdu was kinda funky almost like chengdu was warming up

mortal cipher
#

the philly one was just painful they just needed to 3-nil them

static pond
#

Then they won grand finals and looked bored

mortal cipher
#

i mean it was kinda given after june joust who was winning

static pond
mortal cipher
static pond
mortal cipher
#

like usually apac games the rarely have any emotion after

mortal cipher
static pond
#

Carpe was fucking piss lmao

mortal cipher
#

does a little trolling

#

carpe got revenge off profit tho

static pond
#

He diff him on hitscan to lmao

mortal cipher
#

well fleta is meta and also is a hitscan menace

static pond
#

People forget fleta can play hitscan

young fractalBOT
mortal cipher
#

yeah since you now see him on Echo Pharah tracer

static pond
#

Ye then we saw lip on tracer in playoffs

mortal cipher
#

that was a suprise to see

static pond
#

Didn't even know he could play tracer

mortal cipher
#

i dont think anyone did

#

he was also known for his hitscan as well

static pond
#

Ye then he diff Kai on widow

mortal cipher
#

yeah lol he just brought out widow just to diff kai

static pond
#

Then that Ashe against shock

mortal cipher
#

yeah

static pond
#

Tbh I honestly think lip has the best tracking

mortal cipher
#

but kai sniping violet was insane

static pond
#

Then fits after

mortal cipher
#

lips sombra is busted

static pond
#

He disrespected doha when he said he had trouble with fits

#

Sombra

mortal cipher
#

lips like nei ones talking smack about second best sombra

static pond
#

Ye considering that imo fits is better then Doha now

#

On Sombra

mortal cipher
#

yeah

#

fits was the best in s3

static pond
#

What about assassin at his peak?

mortal cipher
#

umm

static pond
#

He diff Dante on Sombra

mortal cipher
#

but he also memped

static pond
#

True

mortal cipher
#

like assassin had some of the worse memps

#

" nice memp "

static pond
#

Fr

#

Then he emp decay

mortal cipher
#

lol

static pond
#

Lmao

mortal cipher
#

lmbao

static pond
trim shadow
#

Im gonna miss those two in the castin booth

mortal cipher
#

i remember someone said " defiant were so confuse and nice they paused the game "

trim shadow
#

Kekw Ngl i do not remember this

mortal cipher
#

bren and sideshow will still be around

trim shadow
#

I fully understand why people think assassin is bad

mortal cipher
static pond
#

On plat chat

mortal cipher
#

maybe the worst

trim shadow
#

Ye but they will be more on plat chat then actually on brodcast

mortal cipher
#

yeah but we have some good casters

static pond
#

There doing masters rn I think

trim shadow
#

Whats the casting line up this year? I know uber is back so he will probably be hard carrying

gusty rampart
#

Uber and MrX

mortal cipher
#

some contenders promos

static pond
#

I wonder if sideshow and bren will do lol

trim shadow
#

Lemonkiwi is finally in owl

mortal cipher
#

they casted the valorant tourney

mortal cipher
trim shadow
#

But i dont think we have any big personality color casters

static pond
#

Ye

#

Masters

mortal cipher
#

well see

trim shadow
#

!pullupthetweet

#

Off the back i think the best castinf will probably be done by x/uber legday and jaws

#

Everything else will be mathematical Nonsense

mortal cipher
#

yeah

static pond
#

On reddit there was so much praise in the Valorant community when sideshow and bren cast masters they wanted more lol

mortal cipher
#

thats good

#

theyre one of the most known casters

#

Anyone would

static pond
#

I can not find the tweet where they were doing a skit about how sideshow broke the desk because the broadcast was messing up he looked mad funny

trim shadow
mortal cipher
#

Yeah

vagrant jacinth
#

Yeah, they're incredible

next mesa
static pond
mortal cipher
#

Yeah

#

Love to see it

static pond
#

I can not find the tweet of sideshow wearing a construction helmet in masters

#

It was funny

mortal cipher
#

lol

#

Reminds me of the owl perks commercial

past edge
#

anyone cop me the new val bundle 💀

static pond
surreal loom
#

What is the current meta comp in OW2

next mesa
#

how about u buy me it

#

and then ill give you my account

past edge
#

that’s why i ask ):

hot onyx
#

oh sheeet ow2 download doing mad numbers already

#

who will be my duo in 4 1/2 hours?

#

yoo it

#

ready

#

i want to play but i cannot alas

#

curse you personal hygiene

sullen berry
#

I will soon after I'm done with my banquet

#

Already spent last night speedrunning through the bare minimum badly

#

Time to get good if you can tolerate the lag (there are OCE/APAC servers)

#

Gonna scour my old account for a few custom game codes

twilit oriole
#

7 days

#

Almost there

#

I fr need this week to fly by fast asf

hot onyx
willow tartan
#

I can't wait to watch the Shanghai Dragons in seven days Clueless

frosty patrol
#

same, chengdu play soon

#

right?

plush grail
#

Eat my ass

frosty patrol
#

I have leave in my game

#

ez

#

we won

#

I fanboyed

willow tartan
#

i didnt know you played on cn servers

frosty patrol
#

it's 6 am

#

i get put on any servers

#

had 230 ms

hot onyx
#

Excited for the future where the internet has one big server and we see EU contenders players against a chinese all stars team with Shy Leave GA9A Superrich and MMonk

young fractalBOT
north relic
#

You can’t go an entire season without facing another team in the same region

#

Is this how sans views overwatch?

static pond
#

?

plush grail
hot onyx
# static pond ?

The joke is that there is a training bot on the crosshair but it appears invisible, this is a reference to my lack of mechanical skill and how I appear to shoot invisible targets

#

It is also a reference to Ian’s girlfriend being an invisible target

north relic
plush grail
#

Mald more

hot onyx
plush grail
#

She's real

willow tartan
#

can confirm, saw her last night.

static pond
#

lmao

north relic
#

In the walls

plush grail
#

I hate u all

willow tartan
#

I mean you kinda brought this upon yourself bro

plush grail
#

How

#

Legit I once told u all I have a gf

#

And u all started denying it

raw ermine
#

finally
opening OW2

north relic
#

I have the best javelin accuracy in the NA region

willow tartan
#

you bring it up every damn chance you get

#

like a toddler who's just been given a new toy

frosty patrol
#

I literally just followed leave around in backlines

#

unbeatable strat

north relic
#

Leave isn’t NA

frosty patrol
#

wait if my melee final blows were on CN servers

#

they don't count for NA

#

do they

#

fuck

north relic
#

L

#

There are tons of better main supports in China

frosty patrol
#

yes

#

nisha better

#

sadly

#

yveltal too

#

haoyoqian

#

lengsa

#

thor

hot onyx
#

The goat Hyunjae

frosty patrol
#

hyunjae is korean

hot onyx
#

Oh

#

Zad

frosty patrol
#

haoyoqian is the 3rd best chinese ms

#

behind yveltal nisha

#

actually

#

lengsa 3

#

haoyoqian 4

hot onyx
#

You absolute numpty

#

Superrich is much better than Haoyoqian

frosty patrol
#

who

willow tartan
#

Superrich???

hot onyx
#

He goes by the name Superich now

willow tartan
#

The MS on the legendary team cc roster

#

you dont remember?

frosty patrol
#

haoyoqian is better

willow tartan
#

more like whoyoqian

frosty patrol
#

haoyoqian is superich

hot onyx
#

Downgrade

willow tartan
#

yeah, fat downgradfe

frosty patrol
#

seawave > shy

#

winter > shy

frosty patrol
hot onyx
#

45% if we count Kodomo

frosty patrol
#

starting lineup

#

also that’d be 3/7

#

that’s not 45%

hot onyx
#

I failed maths

frosty patrol
#

it’s 42.8

mortal cipher
next mesa
#

Superich is better than lengsa

#

I'm sorry

#

Just be like that

north relic
#

Superich overrated

#

Fastro better

hot onyx
#

Fastro is the best main support in the league?

north relic
#

Leejaegon

twilit oriole
#

Ch0r0ng will take it

willow tartan
#

Fastro best eu MS

next mesa
#

Leejaegon is better than chorong

willow tartan
#

duh?

cunning patrol
#

Fastro sux

willow tartan
#

why are you pointing out the obvious

next mesa
#

Superich

#

Might be #2

#

MS

#

After chorong

#

Even #1 IMO hard to judge

twilit oriole
#

By a little ch0r0n0g is not to far behind LJG

next mesa
#

Nah

twilit oriole
#

He has da potential

next mesa
#

He's pretty far

twilit oriole
#

Nah

next mesa
#

Every MS right now is far from leejaegon

twilit oriole
#

He’s pretty close

next mesa
#

Nop

twilit oriole
#

Nah

#

Trust

#

Chr0n0g is da goat

next mesa
#

He's good

#

Just not ljg level

#

Sorry

twilit oriole
#

I’ll say Ljg is S+

#

And he is S

#

He’s the best ms coming into the league since ljg

willow tartan
#

being top contenders prospect doesnt mean he'll be top in OWL

cloud latch
#

that's some high praise

willow tartan
#

idk what you guys dont understand

twilit oriole
next mesa
#

LJG is just better by a decent margin

#

Lel

devout path
#

What team is chorong on again

willow tartan
#

toronto

devout path
#

Sorry I don’t remember forgettable players

twilit oriole
#

How tf is he forgettable

cloud latch
#

^

willow tartan
#

cuz treeko has more dementia than ian

static pond
#

Charge?

devout path
#

No

twilit oriole
#

Bro thought he did something by saying that💀

devout path
#

She

cloud latch
#

chorong is like one of the best prospects coming into the league lol

twilit oriole
#

Bro thought she did something by saying that💀

next mesa
#

He is

#

LJG is just

willow tartan
#

best prospect doesnt mean they will immediately be the best player

#

that's just stupid

next mesa
#

The best main support right now by a good margin

willow tartan
#

like saying proper will win MVP 100%.

#

he will probably be a candidate sure

twilit oriole
#

He prolly will

willow tartan
#

but you cant say he will win it

devout path
#

Jjonak will win mvp

next mesa
#

Proper will not win 100%

#

But he will be a top 3 dps

twilit oriole
#

It’s gonna be tuff to win against finale

next mesa
#

It's like

twilit oriole
#

🫵🤭

next mesa
#

Oh no

#

Lip didn't win mvp

#

Doesnt mean he isn't top 3

frosty patrol
#

proper is a top 5 dps bare minimum

twilit oriole
#

Lip is mid id take colourhex over him any day