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Yep, had a question about eSports for OW
omg
this is really funny actually
bringing in the mods because you cant go on youtube
unlucky
Can anyone tell me the reason behind London Spitfire being with C9, and is there any other team like TSM, EG, etc that have OW teams?
they do not
but
t1 owns
philly fusion
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optic and envy own houston and dallas, respectively
T1 the Korean Org?
misfits own mayhem
Yeah bro.
immortals kind of own valiant
c9 IS london, that's just their franchise slot.
Outlaws is optic
fuck optic
Atlanta is faze
optic
nrg is shock
Dallas is envy
garbage org
gen. g is seoul
Fusion is partially owned by T1
mike
shared w comcast
no
I am curious why the teams were made to go with this style of naming instead of the org names they use normally. There was an attempt to do this to counter-strike years and years ago when they had them on a satellite TV Channel. Each team participated in like 3-4 games, and were named after a city.
fr
its a franchise
It's the American sports franchise system
spark is bilibili
City Name
thats legit it
justice is some randomass enterpreneur
if it wasnt franchised
uprising is robert kraft
look at apex lol
levy I never have to google
For example, LCS is franchised. Lots of League of Legends is franchised, they don't do this.
I'm just degenerate
LCS has promo and relegation
No they don't.
???
Not for several years
just look at COD
Its been the same 10 teams
Is that all of league?
they just choose to not have the city naming convention
I thought league t1 scene wasnt franchised
not that important
I mean my guess is because they originally started without being franchised
so they kept the names cuz popularity
No, but several of the ecosystems, such as LEC (EU's LCS) and several others. There are however some that are still not franchised, but riot has pushed for them to go that way for a while.
Yeah, I can see that. I, as someone who's not been watching much OWL find it easier to recognize these Orgs than the team name changes.
So if I support C9, I would be a Spitfire fan correct?
If you support C9 I'll be sorry for you in overwatch
Who are the Spitfire rivalries to watch?
Titans
paris
tf u mean titans
Titans
That's alright to me. C9 doesn't do great all the time in other games either.
^^
paris and titans basically
^
unlucky
not close
landon is
nah nah nah
just not that good
hadi redemption arc
Yes just like the OGE redemption arc
Have they said whether or not OWL will be moving to OW2 when it releases, or will they be seperate if OW2 goes in to the professional competitive scene?
it will be on ow2
mhm
OW2 is 5 v 5 right? What happens to the 6th person?
trust the process
not in the game
they dont exist
lol
think like cod switching to 4 players
I've never played COD
but the queue times are still fucked
So each team fired a player for OW2?
no
no
rosters always go through changes
in the off season
they just made these changes accordingly
Sure there is only one tank but why limit yourself to only being able to play half the heroes?
Don’t want to spread on player out
Unless your tank partner is Vulcan
the other player traditionally played certain heroes, however, since the two player's positions are merged then you need a player able to play each of the champions that they are good at
😭😭😭
So did the rosters stay 6 man, but they sub one in or out? Or just drop one person entirely from all the teams, and the one tank now learns all the tanks to play?
we dont know what strategy teams are gonna do
download overwatch on my computer
different teams are trying different things
rosters were never only 6 man previously anyway
a lot of subs
extra players
Oh, didn't know that.
crusty what is the org that owns the chengdu hunters since you are a big simp
How many are typically on a team?
plz answer mr mike
huya
Oh dang thats a lot.
2 tank 3 dps 3 support is the ideal amount
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teams have rosters 6-9 in size rn
yes
In LCS its mostly just 5. Some teams rotate with their minor league (academy team) a lot. So I supposed its a 10 man team, but they have to be able to field 5 men for each league and they can't play in both leagues in the same week.
new minimum is 6
yeah but there are a lot of different playstyles in ow
sometimes the meta calls for two snipers, or two projectile dps
or sometimes the meta calls for something stupid like double off tank
Any bans in OW since the heroes or w/e they are called have grown quite as bit?
there was bans in 2021
not bans like in league
we dunno if they will be on ow2
not pick and ban phase
Ah, yeah I meant pick and ban
certain heroes were banned for a whole tournament
I just think there a lot of heroes now. Maybe could ban 2 a side or something
there's only 33
i mean
i think when it cracks 40
pick n bans have been in owlesports before
u can ban 1 tank 1 sup 2 dps
it was used
in runaway vs lunatic hai showmatch
I suppose it depends on how many of each role there are. Would be pretty nasty to ban out an entire role.
and it was fucking sexy
yes
no bans until we get like 50 heroes imo
lowkey it would
no
it would be way spicier
imo
basically ban x hero until they get nerfed
no because not all teams are good at the same thing
exactly
until you ban sparkle's one trick
No it would just be boring
but fuel expected it already
they are so prepared
for u to ban genji
wait what???
ATL left genji open??
should fuel pick genji??
oh my gosh
sparkle picked genji!
WAIT WHATS THIS
ATL IS RUNNING A FULL COUNTER GENJI COMP
for top level teams probably
DOHA ON WIDOWMAKER?
😱 THEY EXPECTED THIS
YES
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING??
spicy as fuck bro
u guys know that moment
but i think for certain teams bans can make or break them
they didnt ban leblan
leblanc
against faker
i forgot who
was it samsung
leblanc is faker's best champion
and faker picked leblanc
but then samsung fucked him
it was crazy
so spicy
ban sombra against dragons ?
currently in OW there isn't enough variety in how certain heroes work
Banning one hero can essentially cuck an entire playstyle, that's boring imo
ban lucio? no rush this match!
but you also cant play lucio yourself
its your decision
if your team
is good at rush
even if lucio is busted
using sym to close distances in brawl 
you would want to keep lucio open
unbanned*
bans would be kinda sick
i agree with flameknight to an extent that
theres not enough heroes
rn
optimally
but imo
its still doable now
and its definitely
the optimal play
imo
like
endgame wise
say ow stops releasing heroes after 50
i dont watch L 🤮 L
i dont either
the problem though is that it means that teams have to split playtime to practice different comps and shit cause they dont know what the enemy is gonna ban
i only follow faker
so itll be like weekly hero bans all over again
so actually yeah thinking about it it wouldnt work very good
i'd be fine with hero bans so long as there were more alternatives to current heroes
he is washed up?
just taking a whole hero out of play atm does too much
i thought he was doing good
he is not
faker and t1
is fucking
the entire korea region
right from the behind
yeah but isnt that normal
do well in lck choke at worlds
not this dominant
in like 3-4 years
at least
last year was t1's best year in 3-4 years
this year lck
they broke the fuckin record
Honestly
They did about as good as they were expected
Going into worlds
They were expected to be #2 behind damwon
And they lost to the semis very closely to damwon
What's surprising is damwon losing to that Chinese team
damtwo
i don't really understand league but i watch it anyways (like watching football or the olympics) and seeing 2/5ths of the population of china flooding the streets after EDG's victory was very entertaining
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He's also supposed to be shit
Shut up combat frog
Scrimbux have been saying he's actual doodoo
Literally should've gotten Sado instead
Random question but um how I move a tab around my screen? Lol
I forgor 💀
wym
Ok I remember you have to click and hold down on the tab
He dominated in Korean contenders
no
He got second place
So who was first?
02
02 and T1 are usually 1st and 2nd then Talon
Idk how good he is but there some.hype around him
Not the first time nyxl ruined there tanks tho
yeah
By the looks of it wast there more hype around mag then him?
well mag was supposedly the best upcoming tank
Washington justice was just bad not bad but not coach right imo
They just had a rought year
But he did give fearless a run for him money many times if I remember?
So did Im37 valantine aztac and GBS
Yeah but most hitscans aren't amazing at Tracer
Not amazing but they need to play tracer imo
Not really
Looks like a lot of hitscan can flex to tracer
Goats like diem and ANS never played Tracer
they never needed to
Fair
Feels like when diem played they had rough matches
?????
he did in s2 but then fleta and lip came in s3 and were far better than diem
Ye
Watch any s3 Shanghai match challenge
like carpe did for the past needed to
Wast he played for the widow tho over lip?
carpe is last s1 player on the same team
ashe over lip
Thought it was widow
lip had a better ashe yet they but diem on ashe
Ngl
it was more ashe but he was better at widow
Feels like they should play.lip around that time
yeah
Diem ist bad just lip more flexible
yeah
Yeah
And works better fleta around that time
fleta is just insane
Whoru living the happy life rn
Now we need is haksal back in the league
whoru i believe
If I remember whoru and haksal were two of the best og genjis
wasnt he known as a top tier genji
like if you look up shanghai genji theres a picture that pops up in images of the top 5 genjis at the time
there was agilities as well
Haksal and SP9RK1E are the goats of Genji
sp9rk1e now whoru or haksal then
lucio violet
Oh God
essentially they dont have one so theyre basically gambling on a flex meta but judging by things flex support isnt looking likely
They should do a Lucio 1v1 tournament and put violet in it
Wait
isnt UV a flex
lol
I'm leaving this community

I love how I can remove colors whenever I want
I wanna see them put Violet on tank
violet ball returns
yeah
Tbh I think violet gonna go to Ms now
Against the o2 blast he was put on Lucio while the other fs was put on zen
oof
I hope to god viol2t's lucio ends up being fine and people lose their shit
that would be some fresh air to see a good violet lucio
just dont put him on dps pls
also the viol2t dps narrative was super annoying as well
he played iirc like 5 maps total on dps
they also put glister on tracer when striker was on the bench
39 minutes of cree where he went 2-2 map wise, then 6 minutes of echo
Even when under pressure
who knows what shock was trying to do early season
danteh shot calling shock
with all the shit we've heard too
they were trying to let every player play
And that cost them
shock did like 30 things really badly vs houston that series
Ye but then karma hit Houston when they went against Washington lol
houston just had a problem they could beat the shock but not the teams that mattered
they were the first team to beat shock twice tho
And to be fair Washington got there shit together and outplayed outlaws
yeah honestly Washington got lucky but if im honest regardless of how went into playoffs they wouldve gotten swept either way
imo at least except maybe against the shock
Ya I think Philly vs Washington would have been nice to see
yeah
honestly it was a good playoff overall
i do find it funny how people justifying shock being able to win was that they looked good agains the defiant
Lol really?
yeah i saw a few
im not hating defiant but they were in the middle and shock statistically have always beaten the Toronto Defiant
they were some shaky times but that was probably simply heesu being a nutcase as always
defiant and houston are the ones who have never won anything
hopefully this year Defiant can actually be above the gatekeepers not middle but before you get to the top tier
i think Defiant has basically become the new Atlanta Reign
I think defiant made more money then outlaws tho
oof
houston almost got to go to hawai'i but had to 4-nil curse and had to face dallas twice and every time since
Meta wast in there favor also happy needed to play Sombra and tracer
As Dante couldn't play both
Not this year
I have faith in them this year
Their backline is just crazy
I think their support line is good enough to win them most games vs worse teams
But once they start going against teams with really good tanks/dps AND supports, they won't be able to keep up
The thing I’m not a fan of is finale😔 wish although was there
The real question is will defiant keep the same team when the season over?
No
They'll keep twilight and chorong, then sign the scraps of other teams and go mid again
Lmao true
or if they're smart (if they see little success this season) they blow it up at the front office and find people who are more competent
in terms of building a winning roster
Defiant very mid DPS line
No the plan should be is keep this roster, and then drop hotba although finale and go for someone much better and then they have a title contenders team
Fixer upper your team where it’s weak
And that’s where they’re weak
Apparently there signed on a 3 year contract
Not everyone
I doubt finale is signed on a 3 year contract
I think it’s the support line heesu and muze
Honestly if defiant isnt winning games comfortably this year and being competitive with top teams it would be quite disappointing
everyone of them is on like
3 year contracts
They have that much “faith” in them?
it rlly would they look good and it looks like the best team Defiant have had from recent memory and twilight is a starter now
Probably the most well rounded roster in NA and looks like they can adapt to anything
But the last time i said a team was well rounded they were fighting for scraps over last place in apac
Who do y'all think valient is gonna there first win against this season?
charge
or spark
whoever they play first
cuz they are going 24-0 no cappa
lol
I could see it being charge.,philly or sparks
philly is the least likely
Ye
their first match is charge
so charge
But they did give them a round win
ez W
easy peasy Japaneasy
That’s what I’m sayin like lowkey they have pretty much all the spots covered, even if not at the highest level, they still have everything covered more than almost every other NA team
they count be the team before you get to the top 5/6 teams
Definitely charge
Choiseiwan is still out with a injury right so all that stands in the way is eileen
valiant get their first win day 1
lol
Lmao
Yes dont know when he will return tho
Yeah prolly charge then
Either or being a charge fan must not be a good time right now
they got championship Develop and Molly but lets see how they do as a starter roster
One week away from opening weekend wow, Time is abouta fly
8 or 7 days left
yeah
Develop only played 1 match for shanghai right?
me???
Glads
Same
for wot
remember when develop was super hyped up coming out of contenders
Opening day
same with molly
then just never played on dragons outside of a map or two
NYXL are just idk
They seem good
But
After this signing
And the support line
Idk
oh Glads since they did so good and NYXL cleaned house and not quite sure rn
nyxl feels like toronto to me in a way
Nyxl is just mayham
but instead of a nasty support line, a nasty dps line
yeah basically
middling tank middling supports
the only good thing nyxl has is dps
So technically valiant has another rookie roster even tho lengsa played a couple of games and sasin but they were never starters? Sasin maybe
is pickems available to pred yet
Gnj was decent
I think
ight bet
Myu looked good on a bad team
Yo we should do DraftBuff
Which is pretty easy
lol
We should host a draft buff
yeah
I think it’s out
Myu has a lot to prove this season
for sure
Myunbong is A tier at ana, then mid on the other FSs
Myunbong and gangnamjim are probably the best support line in na…probably but the rest of the team is all over the place Yaki is flight or fight same with flora Tank position is a fat ?
Tell me the first part is satire
probably
It really boils down to team synergy
And if they will just get handicapped again deadlifting on ana or Moira play
so who is going to win day one matches
Kuki is leading NYXL
all i've heard about glads scrimbux is that they're good and pati is doing better than expected
haven't heard anything on ans
So i think nyxl will be fine
shock v paris and reign v florida aslo play day 1
Kuki managed to turn florida around all be it short lived
Glads Shock reign
its usually 3 games day 1 and on na region
I wanted to see fuel vs shock on day one tbh
Well he has probably been out of pro play for a while
same paris is good but proper and reign are stacked
Yeah
like we thought reign was gonna struggle but reign look less depenent on one player and look improved compared and shock may fall but they look good with their rookies
Tbf defiant almost made Hawaii over reign, pelican buff was real
Imagine if he had actual team mates to help
Yeah
imagine a universe where shock got pelican/piggy
so they would have a dps line of proper/kilo/pelican
proper pelican reunion
We already have the o2 element mystic super team at dallas we dont need no more unbalance 
My fucking god dallas looks good and for the first time i dont feel rage looking at them
you felt rage last year???
Well heres the story and that goes before last season
Fearless on hog was rage
To sum it up
with how tanks are looking I think dallas will do really well
shanghai making dallas change their entire comp
hyper aggressiveness feels rewarded over passiveness a lot more now
Generally suprised me to see the curse end
Dallas front office did it right
Now I celebrate them
well those who burn blue burn brightest
blow it up, re-do the coaches, find someone who knows what they're doing and let them have roster control
I take even greater pride we cockblocked dallas out of a grand finals apperance
maybe houston can have their curse broken
And buy optic
i might lets be honest nei one was gonna beat Shanghai
people were over saying shock couldve
I mean yea shanghai were ridiculously good it was basically sealed they were taking gf
yeah
I dont even think dallas couldve cause they were still one dimensional they were just rlly fuckin good at the comp they played
But shanghai were just peak overwatch
People were meming the dragons for picking shock lol
people were over there saying shock and dallas wouldve made it close yet the games the played against shanghai before the grand finals werent even close
ikr and we were in here saying its been fun
we all said rip shock fans
Shanghai 3-1 dallas
Shanghai 3-0 shock
Lmao
peoples minds - Dallas or Shock wouldve made it close
the score says difference
the only lost two maps
Now that i look back at the brack chengdu bowing out to shock really makes me depressed
The shock vs dragons was personal lol
it was thought of from moon since last grand finals
Apparently crusty was moon student
even better
its funny they day they rolled them on hanamura i did the exact some thing in a game the same day
They sent a message to na and a message to his student lol
I just remembered we almost made overwatch history with having 3 winless teams until the scrip writers said one team has to win
Moon would force owl to run that shit back lol

They shouldve allowed the 3 winless teams come on script writers 
Cause this year there is definitely no winless teams
but valiant was the worst winless team in history
Idk I mean London
Nah fr real, can they
If valiant goes 2 years winless can we just disband them
almost beat the shock
Are they streaming?
That's a Seoul Dynasty 2 roster if I've ever seen one
Seoul dynasty????
Only for the nostalgia, nothing more
diya aint having two winless seasons
Shock fans were in shambles
Probably worser then s1 shanghai considering they had rays of lights but were terribly coached and had 0 synergy
There was absolutely no hope from valiant
and london looked happy
It was a tier 3 team
shanghai took map 5 bangers tho
they just caused philly to not make a tourney
Apperantly valiant only took 2 maps last year
its funny for the london game a comment perfectly summarizes it " the winners look defeated and the losers look promising "
chungdu and philly
Wouldn't you be happy if your gm team almost beat the shock
That chengdu was kinda funky almost like chengdu was warming up
i mean who wouldnt be happy about beating the two time champs
the philly one was just painful they just needed to 3-nil them
Not dragons they looked bored lol
Then they won grand finals and looked bored
i mean if you are clearly the best i think you are more focused
i mean it was kinda given after june joust who was winning
I was thinking that to
apac are more focused than na
Fleta looked more happy when he beat carpe in the 1v1 that one time
like usually apac games the rarely have any emotion after
lol fleta just wants to diff a goat
Carpe was fucking piss lmao
He diff him on hitscan to lmao
well fleta is meta and also is a hitscan menace
People forget fleta can play hitscan
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yeah since you now see him on Echo Pharah tracer
Ye then we saw lip on tracer in playoffs
that was a suprise to see
Didn't even know he could play tracer
Ye then he diff Kai on widow
yeah lol he just brought out widow just to diff kai
Then that Ashe against shock
yeah
Tbh I honestly think lip has the best tracking
but kai sniping violet was insane
Then fits after
lips sombra is busted
lips like nei ones talking smack about second best sombra
What about assassin at his peak?
He diff Dante on Sombra
but he also memped
True
lol
Lmao
lmbao
Typical assassin M.E.M.P.
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Im gonna miss those two in the castin booth
i remember someone said " defiant were so confuse and nice they paused the game "
Ngl i do not remember this
bren and sideshow will still be around
I fully understand why people think assassin is bad
it was one of the worst memp
On plat chat
maybe the worst
Ye but they will be more on plat chat then actually on brodcast
yeah but we have some good casters
There doing masters rn I think
Whats the casting line up this year? I know uber is back so he will probably be hard carrying
Uber and MrX
some contenders promos
I wonder if sideshow and bren will do lol
Lemonkiwi is finally in owl
they casted the valorant tourney

But i dont think we have any big personality color casters
well see
!pullupthetweet
Off the back i think the best castinf will probably be done by x/uber legday and jaws
Everything else will be mathematical Nonsense
yeah
On reddit there was so much praise in the Valorant community when sideshow and bren cast masters they wanted more lol
I can not find the tweet where they were doing a skit about how sideshow broke the desk because the broadcast was messing up he looked mad funny
Cause they are legit s tier casters as they have great synergy and they are informative and funny
Yeah
Yeah, they're incredible
Ye happy to see Valorant talking about them a lot
I can not find the tweet of sideshow wearing a construction helmet in masters
It was funny
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What is the current meta comp in OW2
no
how about u buy me it
and then ill give you my account
winning easily, Profit isn't on his best hero ashe
oh sheeet ow2 download doing mad numbers already
who will be my duo in 4 1/2 hours?
yoo it
ready
i want to play but i cannot alas
curse you personal hygiene
I will soon after I'm done with my banquet
Already spent last night speedrunning through the bare minimum badly
Time to get good if you can tolerate the lag (there are OCE/APAC servers)
Gonna scour my old account for a few custom game codes
Me too, can’t wait to watch my favourite team LA Gladiators dominate NYXL
I can't wait to watch the Shanghai Dragons in seven days 
Eat my ass
i didnt know you played on cn servers
Excited for the future where the internet has one big server and we see EU contenders players against a chinese all stars team with Shy Leave GA9A Superrich and MMonk
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BREADBOWL existed
You can’t go an entire season without facing another team in the same region
Is this how sans views overwatch?
?
Opinions on Belarus being signed to Philly?
The joke is that there is a training bot on the crosshair but it appears invisible, this is a reference to my lack of mechanical skill and how I appear to shoot invisible targets
It is also a reference to Ian’s girlfriend being an invisible target
No the ui is tilted because your are permanently tilted
Mald more
I went on a winstreak with Levi a couple days ago then proceeded to go on a losing streak with Uvalo
She's real
can confirm, saw her last night.
lmao
In the walls
I hate u all
I mean you kinda brought this upon yourself bro
finally
opening OW2
I have the best javelin accuracy in the NA region
"once"
you bring it up every damn chance you get
like a toddler who's just been given a new toy
I have the best melee final blows/10 on lucio in the NA region
I literally just followed leave around in backlines
unbeatable strat
Leave isn’t NA
wait if my melee final blows were on CN servers
they don't count for NA
do they
fuck
The goat Hyunjae
hyunjae is korean
haoyoqian is the 3rd best chinese ms
behind yveltal nisha
actually
lengsa 3
haoyoqian 4
who
Superrich???
He goes by the name Superich now
haoyoqian is better
more like whoyoqian
Downgrade
yeah, fat downgradfe
blg was like 50% korean
45% if we count Kodomo
I failed maths
it’s 42.8
Noice
Fastro is the best main support in the league?
Leejaegon
Ch0r0ng will take it
Fastro best eu MS
Leejaegon is better than chorong
duh?
Fastro sux
why are you pointing out the obvious
By a little ch0r0n0g is not to far behind LJG
Nah
He has da potential
He's pretty far
Nah
Every MS right now is far from leejaegon
He’s pretty close
Nop
I’ll say Ljg is S+
And he is S
He’s the best ms coming into the league since ljg
being top contenders prospect doesnt mean he'll be top in OWL
that's some high praise
idk what you guys dont understand
Logic is flawed
He will be top of OWL
LJG is just better by a decent margin
Lel
What team is chorong on again
toronto
Sorry I don’t remember forgettable players
How tf is he forgettable
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cuz treeko has more dementia than ian
Charge?
No
Bro thought he did something by saying that💀
She
chorong is like one of the best prospects coming into the league lol
Bro thought she did something by saying that💀
best prospect doesnt mean they will immediately be the best player
that's just stupid
The best main support right now by a good margin
He prolly will
but you cant say he will win it
Jjonak will win mvp
It’s gonna be tuff to win against finale
It's like
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proper is a top 5 dps bare minimum
Lip is mid id take colourhex over him any day



