Imho
#esports-discussion
twin bloom
cunning patrol
smurf monkay one play
twin bloom
smurf monkay one play
So is moose
cunning patrol
muze had mtd gator on rein
worn falcon
Muze was kinda weak tbh, he had some bright moments
as if he was trying to adapt to the huge gap
twin bloom
Moose is a really good
worn falcon
now is more heavy, since 1 tank
worn falcon
Meanwhile TD have Pogba.
cunning patrol
It was a supporter gap
it wasnt
gator just
old man
could not keep up
to be frank if muze worked on his rein hes #1 mt
twin bloom
to be frank if muze worked on his rein hes #1 mt
Thats Fate
And also moose is only #1 lobby filler
cunning patrol
he isnt
twin bloom
Pls stop sugarcoating it
vagrant jacinth
Wtf cassidy has a semtex now?
worn falcon
based
also
considering we getting more brawly
who gonna be the Lucio players?
Imagine not signing moth yet
But Fastro and Feedjaegon are up there
twin bloom
Moth doesn't have a work ethic
twin bloom
Slime sucks
worn falcon
ur mum
cunning patrol
Moth is washed due to lack of passion
cunning patrol
I can respect that
I find it funny
That gladiators spent that much money on moth
Only for him to be bottom 2 playa, only ahead of mirror
twin bloom
If he starts
cunning patrol
He won’t
twin bloom
Over patigoat
twin bloom
Agree
worn falcon
Ans > patiwashed
twin bloom
Ans > patiwashed
Both are washed
worn falcon
ans the less washed
worn falcon
OW2 deffo gonna be some hard hitscan shit
cunning patrol
He is only good at one hard hs
twin bloom
Agree
twin bloom
Ans was awful last season
Most overrated player in owl
Alongside fleta
But just like
Fleta
He is carryable
By greats like kevster shu reiner
cunning patrol
Widow, Ashe, Casserole
He is
A nobody on Cree
Compared to greats
And is mid tier Ashe playor
Good widow
north relic
https://twitter.com/BadPachimari/status/1517211402532016128
bro wtf does that one shot
worn falcon
bro wtf does that one shot
with discord and some zen balls
worn falcon
homing bang
north relic
homing guaranteed like 120 dmg
cunning patrol
Blizzard need to
north relic
broken
worn falcon
99.9999% of the playerbase
earnest leaf
custa is saying it's decently hard to land on smaller targets
north relic
and write a 20 page essay with a thesis
cunning patrol
Jeff sucjs
cunning patrol
She doesn’t
north relic
she does
next mesa
Stop catering to shitters
agree
game needs to be balanced around highest level of play
cunning patrol
Agree
earnest leaf
game should be balanced 80/20 around pro play and casuals
Most pro changes will be good for the game overall, but sometimes there are things lower down that do need some changes
next mesa
https://twitter.com/BadPachimari/status/1517211402532016128
flashbang is removed
cass will be worse
worn falcon
nah, he still can roll
cunning patrol
we have vindaim the prodigy
he doesnt play frog
cunning patrol
TOBI SUCKED!!!
next mesa
not in 2017 😌
cunning patrol
this guy blocked me to still read my messages 🤣
balmy wolf
pls be nice im scared to talk h-h-h-here...
noble nexus
no one cares
balmy wolf
muted and banned
noble nexus
Sadge
next mesa
shut up bitch
gusty rampart
Quiet
north relic
very toxic!
lost thicket
https://twitter.com/BadPachimari/status/1517211402532016128
allow him to hold it for increased damage and a marker for where it lands but remove the magnetic thingy
just make it stick to walls
n shit
wait
how much dmg does it do
next mesa
dragon these nuts on your face
earnest leaf
apparently when super scrimmed, dva/winston were the worst
and hog was close behind them
north relic
exact opposite of predictions
the start of games the meta is very weird though
s1 junk bastion and hog were played regularly
full lichen
WhoRU is benching Fleta for Genji
north relic
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sullen berry
As the sole tank, it probably means her defensive capabilites aren't good enough to solo
north relic
what does dva specialize in better than other tanks
i would have thought winston would be good though
Orisa looks very fun
twin bloom
or 2021 really
Tobi was ass in 2021
A disgrace that yiska chose him for best MS of ow 1
Over moth
Or LJG
north relic
Do you guys think brenshow got ow2 access
Custa ow2 tierlist
Orisa ball that low
How the fuck is zarya consistently getting placed high
I want to know
cloud latch
I'm assuming it's cause of less shields
vagrant jacinth
Ow2 soldier meta time
twin bloom
#justiceforapply
No way some random 30 viewer streamers are in the alpha
But apply a former pro who streams almost daily for 300 + viewers
Isn't in
earnest leaf
apply not getting in is really weird
also apply is up to 400+ concurrent viewers the last month or so
he's been doing well
full lichen
https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1517288800162045960
SHOTS FIRED MAN DOWN
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earnest leaf
I wonder if we'll find out who got avoided on the alpha now that the NDA is lifted
tropic herald
probably just some of the devs and random timmys that got let in
balmy wolf
Custa ow2 tierlist
how tf is Orisa that low
north relic
she doesnt seem that strong imo
just super fun
how much do i have to pay to get in
also cass grenade seems to do around 125
also soldier seems to have gone from a meme dps to meta
balmy wolf
just super fun
yea i was gonna say actually
just because she's fun doesn't mean she's good lol
worn falcon
Custa ow2 tierlist
glad to see spamzo back to meta
balmy wolf
ie current sombra
worn falcon
but the fuck is doing gengo here
north relic
genji with less cc
north relic
wdym more slow?
worn falcon
well, he can yeet with dash
balmy wolf
so Genji and Zarya are getting their time to shine now?
worn falcon
I mean the CC is swaped to slow
balmy wolf
fuck Genji but more Zarya is nice
earnest leaf
i've heard genji is basically in the same spot
so not awful but not must pick
just decent
zarya was hard meta early on but stuff swapped around, I assume she's still good though
doom also was the best dive tank
worn falcon
with dropping the CC gengo may shine
also because of that thought Ball would be better
north relic
yea im suprised ball is that low
i would assume he is one of the best
also i wonder why doom is so good
he didnt seem that strong to me
earnest leaf
high survivability/high damage/mobility
north relic
his dmg seemed pretty weak to me
next mesa
i've heard genji is basically in the same spot
Genji is good
According to iced owl scrimbucks
But only very recently
Soldier too
tropic herald
zarya was hard meta early on but stuff swapped around, I assume she's still good...
beam ignored armor
worn falcon
Decay zarya time
north relic
I told u guys Hydron said zarya was busted
there isnt any reason
worn falcon
Where is nenne when he is needed rn
next mesa
Unlucky
worn falcon
he is
north relic
I told u guys Hydron said zarya was busted
a few months ago super space talked about how bad zarya was
and she didnt seem to get any major changes to make her seem busted
north relic
how is zarya so good now though
next mesa
She's not anymore
north relic
On that 5v5 workshop life
no they were on the beta from GF
tropic herald
beam ignored armor
@north relic
north relic
<@452631000674205696>
no way beam ignoring armor makes her like C tier tank to busted
next mesa
The bubbles were very broken
tropic herald
no way beam ignoring armor makes her like C tier tank to busted
also she could basically perma bubble reaper (who was meta at the time too)
worn falcon
also this makes me wonder how NA and APAC are doing their scrims
next mesa
Iirc early ow2 meta was zarya reaper
next mesa
also this makes me wonder how NA and APAC are doing their scrims
APAC is hard running sombra and also winston
next mesa
it's ow2 and newsflash, na still can't play sombra
sullen berry
Okay so far it's Tracer Zarya Sojourn, what are the supports that are going to shape the meta, zen/ brig?
next mesa
Lucio moira
north relic
honestly winston players should be able to pick up doom
next mesa
Brig is out of it
sullen berry
Brig I hear was busted but moira o3o
worn falcon
And Fastro time
next mesa
Except sometimes when tracer is played
sullen berry
Gotta go molly moira
sullen berry
😬
tropic herald
Okay so far it's Tracer Zarya Sojourn, what are the supports that are going to s...
lucio moira bc survivablity
next mesa
Not game breaking
worn falcon
and rush
although i dont know how you gonna rush with Sigma tho
Zarya/Doomfist i get it
sullen berry
Armor now reduces incoming damage by 33%
sullen berry
And we're not getting of brig armor packs back, a pity it was so busted to have on launch
gusty rampart
I've heard Doom is better Winston which is interesting
tropic herald
doom is pretty wicked
gusty rampart
I can't wait for OWL s5
worn falcon
Sparple benching Fearless
gusty rampart
It starts during school tho lmao
sullen berry
I've heard Doom is better Winston which is interesting
It's like saying Ashe > Cassidy in current OW
Better kit and versatile
worn falcon
Im guessing in SHD is Void time
gusty rampart
True
worn falcon
or Smurf monke in Seoul
tropic herald
whoru starting over void and fate
gusty rampart
I hope SHD still runs Fate tbh
balmy wolf
I've heard Doom is better Winston which is interesting
every tank is becoming a better winston/rein now
worn falcon
Pogba with Toronto
gusty rampart
I can see Hotba actually being great since he's so aggressive
sullen berry
Doom sounds more or less like the DLC expansion hero to Winston without monke's right click Lazer beam and mediocre bubble for soaking Massie damage
next mesa
whoru starting over void and fate
Based
north relic
is doom shield a limited time like sigma eat
worn falcon
Seoul in shambles
earnest leaf
imo we're going to see a few dps player on doom tank when owl starts
sullen berry
Doom's new "shield" increases his defense by 90%
sullen berry
But like genji deflect he's vulnerable from the sides/behind
tropic herald
imo we're going to see a few dps player on doom tank when owl starts
with players like sparkle and whoru and pelican id be surprised otherwise
earnest leaf
like we might see shock roll out with s9mm/proper/kilo all starting
sullen berry
Sp9rk1e on tank 
worn falcon
sad the undefeatable chipsa isnt in owl anymore
gusty rampart
According to Scrimbux Pelican has been playing MT
sullen berry
sad the undefeatable chipsa isnt in owl anymore
gusty rampart
Then again Scrimbux lol
twilit oriole
Then again Scrimbux lol
I’m not relying on that at all this year
worn falcon
man, what a mess gonna be first month of owl
earnest leaf
scrimbux have negative meaning this year
also if it's houston scrimbux it 100% means nothing
tropic herald
i think scrimbux have meaning except the person reporting it always seems to take into account only wins
gusty rampart
Honestly this year could be Houston's year
twin bloom
It wont
gusty rampart
The synergy is just straight up unfair
worn falcon
lolno
tropic herald
unless we see the actual scrims how are we the audience supposed to know what we should take from scrims
twilit oriole
Honestly this year could be Houston's year
Way to many holes
twin bloom
Toronto sadly
worn falcon
paris, london
twin bloom
Top tier
worn falcon
buy toronto stonks rn
worn falcon
i would laugh if Paris run Glister on tank
cunning patrol
atl little 3
earnest leaf
glister tank probably better than daan
twilit oriole
Nero is good playa
twin bloom
Gator good mechanically
tropic herald
Toronto sadly
given the meta i am not surprised
twin bloom
And good rein orisa
cunning patrol
I am just happy s9mm is a startah flex dps on shock
shocks little 3
s9mm
luge
and viol2t ms
sad
earnest leaf
what if viol2t ends up being a god tier lucio
tropic herald
crusty put viol2t on lucio a year early so hed be ready for ow2 
earnest leaf
yea s9mm and proper on genji hanzo works either way
tropic herald
idc what dps lineup is as long as proper plays
earnest leaf
shock dps line up is easy
proper at all times
s9mm if the second dps is a fdps hero
kilo if hitscan is the 2nd dps
unless sombra is meta, then idk who plays
cunning patrol
woah that is a very insightful take nobody could have put together
earnest leaf
You'd be surprised how many people think s9mm is gonna be the new ta1yo
twin bloom
You'd be surprised how many people think s9mm is gonna be the new ta1yo
Its just redditors
Who are mad
That s9mm complained
About OW 2
tropic herald
he got it and saw reaper was what he was put on
earnest leaf
the first meta was zarya/reaper/sojourn/moira/lucio
I can see why s9mm would be bored
sullen berry
How many OWL teams have been uploading tutorial content on OW2 heroes
earnest leaf
I've only seen titans and spark do it so far
but maybe a couple more have put some out
sullen berry
Maybe we'll get the OWL training video curse
Back when he was on Toronto Defiant, Yakpung did a Winston tutorial, but was doomed on rein duty all season
gusty rampart
He wasn't even good in s2 when that video was made
north relic
He was worse
sullen berry
Yeah, I say it's his curse
Much like the curse of Paris' mediocre debut was the result of "teaching everyone how to play Goats"
Says Kruise
worn falcon
any goat players
worn falcon
i was the brig player
balmy wolf
overwatch 2 looks fun wtf
oooh ur actually excited?
ORISA LOOKS INSANE BRO
I CANT WAIT TO PLAY HER
IDC IF SHE'S BAD
OW2 LOOKS
FUN
i cant wait
contentconteeeeent
willow tartan
i mean all ive seen are highlights so far, is there full games i can watch?
flow of the game seems fun but they are clips so obv bias
worn falcon
Not yet, maybe ml7 clips
next mesa
this news was like 10 months ago
willow tartan
lets gooo
valiant has a tank player
now when is NYXL gonna sign a complete roster
then we can do power rankings
worn falcon
tropic herald
sasin to valiant apparently
Now we have to wait 9 hours for the tweet
earnest leaf
they got the best twitter team
worn falcon
They dropped all their smm
Which I can see it happening to.the pandas
Fucking Chengdu pulling a Valiant 2 weeks before OWL
sullen berry
i mean all ive seen are highlights so far, is there full games i can watch?
Just keep looking, that's what I did
Andy did full Orisa gameplay
PC Gamer did a very chill stream around Monte Carlo, and by that I mean it wasnt enjoyable mechanically to watch
That's what OWL should bring
worn falcon
There was a Reddit post about the streamers and vids
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hot onyx
Fucking Chengdu pulling a Valiant 2 weeks before OWL
All part of Nohills plan
dense atlas
random magnet
willow tartan
Christfer is on london though so Chipsa to london
raw ermine
hot onyx
Mfw when Clestyn Attack Gargoyle Riven DAI and F4ZE are all just as affordable and better
frosty patrol
Mfw when Clestyn Attack Gargoyle Riven DAI and F4ZE are all just as affordable a...
maybe sasin is the best doom in owl or something
hot onyx
Maybe FiXa and Opener are S tier main supports and deserved their spots over Sanguinar
frosty patrol
Maybe FiXa and Opener are S tier main supports and deserved their spots over San...
here’s the thing
I trust valiant coaching much more
than fusion coaching or justice coaching
hot onyx
here's the thing
I do not trust a coach who signs Sasin and Coldest over Clestyn and Kyo
frosty patrol
here’s my theory
- sasin is just woohyal’s project
- nohill signed coldest because he’s going to turn coldest into a god of the sport
2a. kyo underperformed in tryouts (just like rawkus over dogman for 2019 team na)
hot onyx
Valiant holds tryouts?
didn't know they could afford that
I just don't have a lot of confidence in a roster that, on paper, only has two players that aren't below average at best
frosty patrol
innovation is not below average at best
neither is coldest
they’re currently below average yes
but we’ve seen peaks
next mesa
Mfw when Clestyn Attack Gargoyle Riven DAI and F4ZE are all just as affordable a...
wrong
i trust nohill more than you
hot onyx
that's like giving the benefit of the doubt to Kariv because of his peaks in 2018
frosty patrol
my only gripe is sasin over riven
next mesa
2. nohill signed coldest because he’s going to turn coldest into a god of the sp...
true
frosty patrol
riven top 3
hot onyx
y'all underestimate Clestyn
hot onyx
just because he has been stuck with JMAC and Belosrea for most of his career doesn't mean he isn't god tier
next mesa
when you think someone is a good coach you give them the benefit of the doubt
hot onyx
yeah i can give the benefit of the doubt to a washed tracer otp that isn't even a top 10 dps in all of contenders, a mid off tank from 2019 that hasn't played pro for two years, and a flex support that has been benched by mid players and performed on a subpar level when given playtime at an owl level
to be 4th apac
Becky carry ez
🙏
next mesa
4th easily
next mesa
yeah i can give the benefit of the doubt to a washed tracer otp that isn't even ...
i trust nohill
hot onyx
easily?
next mesa
easily
hot onyx
Levy
next mesa
better than fusion
frosty patrol
bro you know what astounds me
hot onyx
your brain is damaged
next mesa
nah
frosty patrol
people who have Shax above D tier
hot onyx
respectfully
next mesa
i trust nohill
which means trusting his pickups
decision making
its nohill
s tier coach
frosty patrol
how can you be B or A tier as someone who isn’t even top 12 on their one trick
hot onyx
how can you be B or A tier as someone who isn’t even top 12 on their one trick
I just have him low C tier
frosty patrol
I just have him low C tier
that’s fair but he should be in D
hot onyx
he isn't a bad player for the role that he fills
frosty patrol
he’s literally not top 12 on the one hero he can play
hot onyx
plus he got shafted by shitfire last year
frosty patrol
change my mind
hot onyx
change my mind
i think they win 2 if they're lucky
next mesa
no one shits on crusty for getting sam
hot onyx
they got close vs Mayhem but idk how reliable Diya and Fearless are gonna be with these randoms from contenders
hot onyx
i don't trust
his crust
S9mm getting playtime won't be good for Shock
just permastart Proper Kilo and hope for the best
full lichen
just permastart Proper Kilo and hope for the best
But then who can speak English with Coluge?
hot onyx
teach Coluge korean
raw ermine
@hot onyx can you not spell Clestyn?
hot onyx
<@398500839469219850> can you not spell Clestyn?
thought adding "clestyn 
" looked disrespectful
so i decided to put the bronze emote instead
next mesa
s9mm is only a little worse than kilo
dps tier wise
chill chill
proper will permastart anyway
raw ermine
so i decided to put the bronze emote instead
so much nicer
next mesa
top 3 dps player
next mesa
But then who can speak English with Coluge?
shock comms in english
always
even if they are full korean
in the lineup
full lichen
Huh
next mesa
crusty makes an effort to make the team comm in english
you can see in their exhibition game vs o2
gusty rampart
Agree but it's not gonna be top tier
full lichen
KariV and Anamo are Crusty approved
So it may not be too 3 but it will be up in top 7
gusty rampart
Crusty kinda overrated a little
What the fuck was Shock s4
Viol2t Lucio?
No FDGod Brig?
Never FDGod Twilight?
next mesa
KariV and Anamo are Crusty approved
are they though
full lichen
are they though
Actually yes Crusty has said they are a good backline
next mesa
where
next mesa
oh you mean owwc
full lichen
oh you mean owwc
Yeah
hot onyx
ah yes Kariv and Anamo the top 7 support line
full lichen
I thought it was 2020 and before
next mesa
and anamo
hot onyx
they performed so well last year
next mesa
was somehow not washed 2 years ago
not THAT washed
2019 his last good season
not to mention
full lichen
Anamo is still good
hot onyx
he is a bottom 3 ms
that's generous
full lichen
Who would you rate over him?
full lichen
Would you rate Slime over Anamo?
next mesa
is slime in the league?
full lichen
I forgot if he retired or is free agent
If he's a free agent he's probably on NYXL rn
next mesa
?? why would nyxl sign slime
full lichen
?? why would nyxl sign slime
They have Kuki Gangnamjin and Yaki so why not?
vagrant jacinth
Slimes retired iirc
next mesa
because slime retired
hot onyx
i would personally rate Anamo above
next mesa
and why would they sign one of the worst players of their line up
next mesa
i would personally rate Anamo above
i take fixa over him
hot onyx
i take fixa over him
me too unironically
uhhh
fuck who do i rate anamo abaove?
Opener?
devout path
Kellex
next mesa
i trust a rookie more than an ms that peaked 4 years ago
hot onyx
the guy that was bottom tier in contenders kr and barely 3rd in contenders au
full lichen
i trust a rookie more than an ms that peaked 4 years ago
Tom Brady had one of his best years ever in 2021 so Anamo could come back
next mesa
admiral is way better
devout path
Who’s London ms
hot onyx
whom i also rate higher than Anamo
next mesa
Tom Brady had one of his best years ever in 2021 so Anamo could come back
tom brady didnt fall off for 3 years
hot onyx
Who’s London ms
read
hot onyx
former british hurricane main support Admiral is Londons new ms
next mesa
admiral is good player
full lichen
tom brady didnt fall off for 3 years
He didn't fall off but he didn't have his best years either he had a good year a few mediocre years then came back
devout path
I think everyone on London is bad players except sparkr and shax
hot onyx
Poko???
vagrant jacinth
Poko too imo
full lichen
I think everyone on London is bad players except sparkr and shax
FACTS
north relic
hadi??
hot onyx
Backbone??
devout path
Pokomegalul
north relic
poko had a better season than valentine in s4
devout path
Backbone??
Who
devout path
poko had a better season than valentine in s4
No valentine goated
vagrant jacinth
I just want dubs this season
devout path
Valentine will be mvp
hot onyx
I take Hotba over him
Hotba is good??
devout path
When he gets on good team
hot onyx
Valentine wasn't even the best player on his team
devout path
Valentine so good and hot and cool
hot onyx
I take Teru over Valentine
next mesa
He didn't fall off but he didn't have his best years either he had a good year a...
comparaison makes no sense because anamo has never been the best at his role
devout path
This is why ur dumb
hot onyx
no it's not
devout path
It is
hot onyx
I am not clouded by the bias of a torb soldier two trick being above average
devout path
Valentine echo top 5
hot onyx
footage of top 5 gameplay?
devout path
Go watch valentine
hot onyx
alright i will one moment
next mesa
Number 1 tracer all time is Kevster
no
hot onyx
Go watch valentine
ngl he don't look so good https://youtu.be/mUzkm_WkcCs
next mesa
also no
devout path
ngl he don't look so good https://youtu.be/mUzkm_WkcCs
Ratio
hot onyx
Ratio
counter ratio https://youtu.be/vbW3ytbcsMU
full lichen
The Mayhem are my favorite team but even I admit the Mayhem shouldn't have won that game
hot onyx
yeah they should
better on an individual level on 5/6 roles at worst
and coaching level as well
hot onyx
Lori benches GBS for Punk instead of putting in the work to refine his talents
hot onyx
neither is Punk
devout path
shax is awful
Ur literally dumb
cedar oasis
Ur all apes
hot onyx
man was better than the bottom 4 off tanks in the league and that's about it
next mesa
neither is Punk
better than gbs
hot onyx
I watched like 12 Boston games because i was high on the WGS hope
cedar oasis
Punk over hotba any day
devout path
Punk was rlly solid
hot onyx
id take punk over hotba
seek medical help
hot onyx
he was bad according to y'all
cedar oasis
Get some help
hot onyx
Stats say no sans
show these stats to ED then
cedar oasis
You are crazy sans
devout path
I think hotba was fine but punk was rlly good
cedar oasis
Take your meds
devout path
I take punk over poko
hot onyx
Take your meds
vagrant jacinth
Hotba is just ok
hot onyx
Hotba stepped in, expected to be bottom 5 as a temp replacement for one stage for visa issues and performed like 8th best during the end of the season
after majority of visa issues were no more
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Sans literally saw the stats but forgets them
im sorry when?
hot onyx
name who was above him if he was 12th
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8TH BEST OFF TANK= MID
hot onyx
8th best out of 24 = above average*
devout path
if hotba 8th best punk at least 7th
hot onyx
ah yes the real off tank rankings
Void Hanbin Space Hawk Lateyoung ChoiHyoBin Punk Hotba
hot onyx
Toyou was literally a slot filler
devout path
jjonak top 2 all time
hot onyx
tf you mean?
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Toyou was literally a slot filler
?? he played most games what are you on about
hot onyx
man was invisible except a couple games on zarya
devout path
hot onyx
tell me u dont watch apac without telling me u dont watch apac
tell me you allow your favourite team to cloud your judgement without telling me you allow your favourite team to cloud your judgement
hot onyx
interesting
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fusion is your favourite team so you blame mano
frosty patrol
toyou dva was occasionally cracked silly
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and only mano
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tbh
hot onyx
and only mano
and EQO sombra
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the only hero hotba is better than toyou at is zarya
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he wasn’t consistently top 6 but goddamn toyou was a nut sometimes
hot onyx
and Hotba when he gravs nothing vs NYXL final fight vs Numbani
frosty patrol
the only hero hotba is better than toyou at is zarya
and tracer
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and tracer
fine
hot onyx
and tracer
and winston
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ill give hotba the tracer
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and orisa
hot onyx
and hog
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have u seen toyou's orisa
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and doom
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nasty as fuck sheeeesh
hot onyx
and zen
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and mercy
hot onyx
and pharah
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hotba is a nut off offtank
compared to other offtanks
toyou was good
seoul’s problems were mt and support
hot onyx
Hotba was like Fusion's 3rd-4th best player though
frosty patrol
toyou was not a weak spot, he was the only non-dps starter to consistently put out performances
hot onyx
so was toyou?
yes but Toyou didn't have Mano and yet Hotba made it to playoffs
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lol
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mano is better than gesture
frosty patrol
yes but Toyou didn't have Mano and yet Hotba made it to playoffs
fusion had infinity better supports and gesture was even with mano
hot onyx
mano is better than gesture
off ball and orisa yes
hot onyx
and considering ball was hard meta since SS i'd take Gesture
Gesture is mad inconsistent
but at least there's those glimmers of hope
frosty patrol
gesture marve1 is even with mano
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gesture is worse than mano on ball
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than Mano under Changoon
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the cope is unreal
like just get some eyes
gesture was atrocious
he locked hog and just fed for like 30 minutes
hot onyx
the fact that Mano was "equal" to Gesture on ball with a huge coaching buff speaks volumes
frosty patrol
mano = gesture marve1
hotba < toyou
carpe < fits
rascal eqo < profit
fastro/tobi >> anamo
alarm >>>> creative
hot onyx
???? now you're discrediting players because of coaching staff
Hotba leveled up under NineK and Mano fell off
you're the one making Nohill arguments but i can't make NineK debates?
hypocrite
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ok and? benbest also leveled up under ninek and nosmite was garbage
lol you're using ninek as an argument for why mano is bad??
hot onyx
no
hot onyx
I'm using the argument that Mano was so bad he couldn't play well under a good coach
read the words
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the fact that Mano was "equal" to Gesture on ball with a huge coaching buff spea...
no, here you're saying mano is not equal to gesture on ball because the coaching staff behind him
read your own words
hot onyx
no, here you're saying mano is not equal to gesture on ball because the coaching...
no i said Mano is equal to Gesture on ball with a much better coaching staff
and if they had equal coaches he would get mtd'd
cedar oasis
Sans is coping so hard
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lol you're trying to think of every reason to shit on mano to make your team's shortcomings look better
guys mano was so bad we had a good coaching staff man if we had gesture we would've done better look at what gesture did with changoon
hot onyx
no i actually watch the vods
cedar oasis
How is s4 philly's coaching good? They put eqo on sombra and killed rascal
hot onyx
How is s4 philly's coaching good? They put eqo on sombra and killed rascal
look at what happened when they put Carpe or sHockWave on sombra
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just put rascal on sombra
frosty patrol
just put tobi on sombra
hot onyx
and there was certainly a reason why Rascal didn't get signed until 2 months before the season
frosty patrol
Mano was like 5th or 6th season 3
fate benbest sado smurf fearless were better so yeah 6th
north relic
just put hotba on sombra
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fate benbest sado smurf fearless were better so yeah 6th
maybe super?
cedar oasis
Sans is coping so hard
frosty patrol
7th if you count super but super playtime where
hot onyx
if Rascal went to tryouts on Justice and Defiant and got rejected for Assassin and Na1st what does that say?
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if
cedar oasis
If
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if
hot onyx
he confirmed it on stream
cedar oasis
Fusion fan coping
hot onyx
before being signed to fuson
hot onyx
Sans literally just said fury is still good
im sorry when?
"I take Libero hitscan over sHockWave hitscan"
-Tyrone "Uvalo" Simmons
cedar oasis
Libero widow is good
Sans is fucking mental
"Libero didnt have a good widow against lip he just denied lip sight lines"
plush grail
Fuck sans
frosty patrol
look in ow serious
cloud latch
who's list is that
north relic
who's list is that
Aggregated
So like you combine multiple lists
And it’s an average
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A lot of the not fun heroes are at the bottom
frosty patrol
soldier has mobility and self sufficiency on angles
vagrant jacinth
Yeah, I think people were saying that the devs did quite a few patches
north relic
My mechanics are shit guess I’m two tricking doom rein
vagrant jacinth
I'm sure there was another patch that came out soon after all the footage we've seen
Reins good that's all I need
hot onyx
time to continue two tricking tracer and sombra
frosty patrol
the warriors about to sweep nuggets
not a sweep
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Americans
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levy is not american
cedar oasis
Wierdos
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NAians
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not a sweep
we are already 3-0
frosty patrol
and he enjoys the 2014 spurs so he gets a pass
frosty patrol
we are already 3-0
4-1
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nah
the only way we 4-1 is if we just wanna win at home
but they can use those extra days to rest
next round is probably grizzilies
although we gonna shit on them as well tbh
2 teams im scared of
- mildly suns
- bucks
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I think nyxl can beat them
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the only way we 4-1 is if we just wanna win at home
warriors are known to gentleman’s sweep
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warriors are favourites rn lowkey
lowkey lowkey
nuggets are a weak team
however the new death lineup looks very sexy
booker injured 2-3 weeks
but should be back
they're gonna get past pelicans prob in 6
frosty patrol
warriors are known to gentleman’s sweep
they did this like 4 times back when they were dominant
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were they ever up 3-0 though
cedar oasis
Sans makes eggs in a microwave
cedar oasis
Lsd you are 12 stop talking
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LOL
frosty patrol
lsd is not 12
north relic
Swap the numbers
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that’s in June
he’s inviting all of us to his rise of skywalker themed birthday party
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I’ll make it for season 10
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Yea
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😏💅
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Give me recommendations
tropic herald
I liked Haikyuu a lot Bc it was very easy to turn off brain and watch
Didn’t have to think very hard about what was happening
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what's your genre
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I’m fine with anything
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AoT if you want to be braindead and sit through action, just know there’s an F tier main character
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Other thanhentai
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haikyuu is very good
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I watched haikyuu already
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its top 3 sports anime