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when Plat Chat co stream?
i trust jazzy more sadly
whats that supposed to mean
Let's gooo
Co-stream limited to YouTube and displaying who knows what ads this season
I'm already dipping but I am not going to be awake enough to host NA matches
let's just appropriate kenobi's co-stream as the ED co-stream
we'll stream his stream on OWL viewing
???
ayo
Yeah we can all just congregate there
lol
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Could not agree more
team cc hard underperformed without nohill
they looked like lost ducklings without their dad
Maybe also because 4/6 of their players were replaced by downgrades?
ezhan > diya, aimgod < 1987, woohyal > lige, someone < ga9a
no lie
woohyal has 2 titles
in owl
diya went 0-40
no this year
what
diya>ezhan
lige>woohyal
rest is correct
What no owl does to a motherfucker
Echo aim too crisp
the league is fucked if there is any hitscan/echo meta though when speedily becomes eligible
kai speedily would not "fuck the league" on hitscan echo
it would be damned good
but not be unstoppable
in NA I struggle to think of a hard hitscan/echo duo that would contest speedily/kai
you said the league
Kai is a better hard HS than lip
And speed is better echo than fleta
People will see
Soon
Imho
flora yaki better tbh
lip wins all hitscan duels besides widow
you forgor me
tbh I want to see lip on hard hitscans more
He still plays like 70% sombra for the past two seasons
like he has less than 3 hours on widow over the past two seasons
less than 4 hours on mcree as well
ashe is the only hard hitscan he has a decent amount of time on,
but has more time on sombra in 2021 than ashe playtime over the last two years
Now that Leave apr1ta is likely dead
ATL have best echo tracer duo
Actually
Shock might be better
Depends how you rate s9mm
he isnt
Ok
untrue IMO
gameplay has backed up that statement
also on lip hitscan
I keep seeing that people really like to rate good players super high on heroes they have very little playtime on
when most of those hours
are him dicking ppl who play hard hs at a high level
it is fair to assume
lol
It's fair to assume he's good on them, but it gets hard to properly rate him on them
Like rating lip on widow is kinda hard
you can have a general assumption of where it is
but can't really just solidly place him among other players
widow tier list?
i will never make one of those
Good
Ans #1 then who knows from there
ans would be F tier in mine
shut up nerd
What about just top 5
He forgor the rest
pine washed
something like that i think
mn3 i dont have enough info
Maybe shy?
Jimmy widow
shy happy aspire
all playas i considered
carpe
too
diem but idk how hard hes been grinding in his break
ive seen a few vods and his aim looks good
speaking of diem
Beta is in a week
Nyxl still haven’t announced their sixth player
based
ok
i will tell you right now
it is an off tanker
did i already tell u that
Why would it be na nyxl is all Korean
not the greatest
visa issue
i personally do not know why they went to na
only good one
Apac stacked
it isnt
they never gonna annouce their 6th player
smh
owl twitter acc is posting their rosters
this scream bottom 3 https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1516854796942290946
this one at least top mid
mid team like last year prob
nah, better than last year
toronto #5 north america IMO
It screams a solid top 8 NA
Which is bottom 5 NA
disagree
perhaps
Not outlaws
outlaws under toronto
you'd put toronto above outlaws?
yes
interesting
Replace outlaws with shock
Than its good
oh yea i forgor shock
outlaws
Justice still sad
Now that screams bottom 4 NA
Dallas Glads Atlanta Shock Defiant Outlaws NYXL Justice Titans Mayhem. Thoughts?
Titans above justice
IMO
Outlaws have better mechanical peaks
Disagree
And less deadweight playahs
it j depends on if decay actually wants to play with team
no problems with chorong twilight
and pogba
thoughts on how the top 5 na goes?
Dallas glads shock atlanta toronto in order
i think reign are better than shock
after even more character development
reign are top 3 NA
Shut up
I don't think that the player difference(s) are large enough to make up for Shock's coach gap over atlanta
im 37
sephy has learned from unter
all of the All Stars from 2020, who are still good/relevant:
Jecse, super, NiCOgdh, Nevix, BenBest, SoOn, Mano, Haksal, JJoNak, Ameng, ChoiHyoBin, Hydration, moth, FDGoD and Alarm are all retired/not on a owl team rn,
Viol2t, Shu, Izayaki, Fleta, ANS, Hanbin, Kai, Profits, Myunb0ng, LeeJaeGon, Tobi (Coach), Carpe, Glister, guxue, Void, Fearless, McGravy (Coach) Yaki, FunnyAstro, Crimzo, Agilities, SPACE, Danteh, sHockWave, KariV, Cr0ng are all player/on team
most still are good players
Massive character development
Why was godhand
An all star
Nepotism possibly
Agilities isn't bad imo
this is under the assumption chengdu implodes
but again below seoul for apac it's a toss up
so don't take that part too seriously
Based except valiant third if Chengdu explodes
wrong!!!!!
i profoundly disagree with your north america rankings
@twilit oriole do you agree with flameknightts rankings
team without a main support or main tank cant be that high
what team
exactly
I think people drastically overrate the requirements of a MS player
and I think a MT player would be really nice, but only if their one of the top dogs, which shock cannot get atm
I never want to see viol2t lucio in my life ever again
so I would take one really mechanically strong OT player vs that and a middling MT
Also viol2t MS gets way too much shit
No it does not
iirc he was only 4-5 map wise on lucio last year
his brig had like a 70% WR too
and his mercy was good enough
And people heavily doubt the ability of a player to just grind out a role, and make too many assumptions on what comps a team will run
you can literally apply that argument but the other way around
Why run lucio when you can just run a nasty af double FS comp
whos to say it would be double flex
whos to say shock is gonna conform to the over-arching meta
there is literally nothing bad about getting a backup MS/MT just IN CASE
0 downside
there are
so teams that do are always going to be more well roundewd
You now need to integrate those players in the off chance they play
there are only downsides if your coaching is dookie
scrim them which takes away scrim time from your main players
shock made three tanks work for two years
yes
Because super/smurf were top 3 in their role the whole time
and choi was top3 as well the whole time
There is no top 3 mt they can get atm
unless super magically un-retires
yes unfortunate circumstance
but doesnt change the fact that there are teams out there with top tier main tanks and off tanks
and that is better than not having them
therefore, those teams should be rated higher
I would feel much better about their roster if they picked up a decent MT/MS (assuming super didnt just retire like a fkn month before the season starts)
yeah which is what i mean
say super retired at the start of the off season
shock def shoulda tried to cop an MT prospect or smthn
then they probably gun for smurf
but then they also wouldnt have gotten coluge
smurf left shock tho
he prolly didnt wanna come back right?
idk if he wanted to fully leave or not
thats really shocking
antlanta below shock ajd glads
and nyxl wayyyy higher
and it will be good
What are these scrimbux and how do I spend them?
idk
Make a pr
Disagree
NYXL way higher
Nyxl potential little 3
Bro never watched a game of Yaki or Flora
Team
You're not the brightest
They cant 2 v 6
Dumbass
Kellan is shit
Thats not a good pickup
Wrong
If I am wrong
NYXL easily better than Titans, Mayhem, Spitfire, Paris, and even Boston
Even boston
Lol
Like thats supoosed to be impressive
Kellan bong are garbage
The OFF tanker
Nyzl is getting
Is also bad
OW2 is more DPS oriented
Or an anglish speaker
Supposedly
Who will look bad
Because language barrier
Titans have better supports and better OT
You're so cringe
And still more people like me
"Yeah I have Atlanta Reign #2 NA 🤓🤓🤓🤓"
Thats a good take
It's an awful one
They either side graded or down graded
And every other team is better
Outlaws is a better candidate for #2 NA
No they didn't
if u think
And speedily on certain champions
ojee is a sidegrade to masaa
Gaps pelican
u r brain dead lmao
FS stayed near the same
MS literal side grade
FDPS was major downgrade
Nero and Speedily are good just not Pelican level
Stop speaking
nero isn't that much of a downgrade
Nero is still pretty good
a major downgrade compared to pelican yes
i think biggest problem with atlanta is their tanks honestly
will they have the flexibility or not in OW2?
And speedily on certain champions is better than pelican
2 champs
Considering some teams have solo tanks
and one is a tank
full english speaking roster outside of venom also imo will help comms a bunch and synergy
When Speedily become going to be scary
samito owl costreams inc 😈 
They will be fine
dont sugarcoat it asshole @twin bloom
Thanks
Speed very good damge playah
IMO atlanta reign have good depth in their damage per second line
Tho
they are best echo tracer team na
actually
the role is just called damage
not damage per second
you fucking imbecile
Damage is v stacked
Why was it always called DPS then
because ppl are dumb
saying the word damage takes less time and has less syllables than saying the word DPS
Ig it’s a simple way of saying it
😌
Good point
dps is infinitely easier to type
Maybe they like 3 words rather than the one word for some reason
both have 3 syllables no?
they both take 0.1 seconds to type
DAMAGE HAS 3 SYLLABLES??
yoo
please say smthn smart bro
yeah guess you're right
still dps is easier to say since all parts of the words are in the front of the mouth as opposed to having to move back for the ending of damage
at least for me
only ppl in an owl server would argue about this
they cant
takes up less space on huds plus it's how most mmos put it so it stuck thanks to that iirc
Or English class
Yeah it’s weird how we say DPS yet the role says damage
guess so, but it's that way with a bunch of things in life, people use terms that are more mainstream and better understood by a general audience
nobody is going to misunderstand you when you say damage instead of dps
Yeah
It’s just a quirky way of saying it because then you have hitscan so I guess it’s a way to differentiate between the different types of damage heroes
because what does it realistically change or affect?
Wot word is used
I mean In the grand scheme of things it rlly doesn’t change anything it’s just preference
it's like people calling supports healers, that intrinsically changes how people perceive the support role, as healers and primarily healers whereas in reality they are more like damage heroes with healing ability
dude
OWL pickem contest?
this
i mean do they need a sixth dps player?
not damage player?
so your point is?
that different words still change the perception of things even if they are interchangeable
then use the right one as you said
I mean only damage had multiple words because support and tank is rlly straight forward and doesn’t have multiple different types where DPS / Damage have damage hitscan projectile etc
I mean yeah but with those they don’t need another word for
let's just all agree this really doesn't matter and nothing will come off it if people start saying damage or dps so we should leave them alone
ok
Yeah
Www has less syllables than worldwideweb
Someone do a time trial on how long it takes to say dps and damage
consistently bad amirite ahahaa
nobody uses that anymore
for whatever reason
Who is Adam wellborn
I’m to depressed to talk rn
Embiid really did kawhi on us
Speechless
Thoughts on TD being top 5 NA
Despite the little 3
I sadly agree with defiants greatness
Hopefully
Scrimbucks are wrong
In this instance
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Not a single soul cares
Yessir
it's not good but people act like it's the worse thing to ever be
viol2t lucio is not gonna win you championships
and that's the thing shock is gunning for
Neither is fleta tracer
But oh wait
tbf
Yeah but it's like, ok, not good or great but like y'all act like he just sit still on the ground and died all the times
If you need brain surgery bro I’ll pay for it
I don't doubt the best FS can grind out 3 heroes
I mean viogoat
esp when his brig was actually solid
Fleta tracer good
cope
not top tier but def good
He isn't
+1 point for flashy bombs
you did not just compare fleta's tracer to fucking viol2t lucio
Disagree
you don't deserve human rights
He is IMO #4 flex damage player on planet Earth
banger
I disagree
They are comparable
Imho
opinions of second class citizens do not matter
some people don't deserve life
wow
Viol2t lucio gapped the fire lucio
you're the reason why abortion is legal
(I am exaggerating fyi)
Just mald that flata
Is very mid
Ling
Playah
Fleta
Jecksay
Stand 1
Gargoyle
Im37
Fleta is the worst starter on the current best team
Bebe
Are all very mid
every hero he touches is good
Kr playahs
Tracer
you're just wrong
Profit is bettor than fleta
straight up
there's no such thing as a Profit deadlift
Kevster is better
your opinions are god awful
They aren't
you have got to be trolling
there is no way a actual human with a brain things this
Yaki is better
Fleta haters are braindead
They do
this is just trolling
Fleta is literally insane
ignored
I just think he is mid
He ain't mid
over hyped sure maybe
He's better than Leave just putting that out there
You're wrong
He's trolling
Same with players like N2S
don't feed the trolls
someone this brain dead would have already died
long time ago
too stupid to breath air to their brain
breathe
Please be civilized @ everyone
It is sad to see
Players like profit
Get held back by shit teamates
While fleta gets carried by greats
Like Fate
Void
Lip
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he is profit simp
despite profit being #8 flex damage player on planet earth (my take, open to debate)
he said that fleta tracer was comparable to viol2t lucio
negative IQ take
Profit is only behind proper kevster leave
He is #4
pelican
imo fleta is good player but S on hmm 3-4 players
Imho
disregard pelican
hmm
imo profit > kevster however i might be racist
Very sad to see
only on
hanzo and pharah
Lord forgive this poor soul set astray by the devil, thou does not know what he is talking about, may the lord bless his heart
Amen
rest of hereos kevstor marginally better at
imo genji as well
it is also
oen of profits is
wrong IMO
kevstor showed good genji performances on ping in twenty twenty
and dominated many maps on da genj this year
He was on ping and had.players on their way out
As teamates
correct me if I'm wrong but LAG 2021 was one of the few teams who could play goats
ATL could as well
Maybe shock
you are wrong
muze doesnt rein
for whatever reason he just cant bring himself to play rein
idk if coach issue or player issue
let me check
Gator rein, Hawk DVA, Massa Lucio, Ir1s Bap/zen
but uh
who plays brig, or zarya
X
maybe both idk, imo his rein wasn't the worse but def needs more polishing, maybe rose tinted glasses
if Dallas had another tank
they could play goats
Pelican brig very good
Same with edison zarya
Also gator and hawk peaked during goats
shock had super rein, fdgod lucio, viol2t zen/bap/brig and twilight zen/bap, choi dva and I guess smurf could play Zarya, tbh I trust all tanks with smurf
Kevster is probably better at old brig
Than skewed
I'd need evidence to back up
all your claims
rn
though
But that was a long time ago
Peli is one of the other players I'd trust on all roles
Wait NVM
lel
fastro worse than da saa in goats potentially?!
I thought you chose fastro over moth
Fastro got cucked so hard in s2 by boston of all times
Decided that alamao and kellex were better
Than waiting out a 10 game suspension
Lmao
ttuba brig, closer lucio and bebe zen, Decay zarya, mag rein and fury dva
though probably pretty close to bottom
So sad what huk did to the goat
Of UK
MS
But ultimately it was better for fastro to be cucked by boston
Lol
Titans fucking hate boston
I don't think they have lost a match to them
their only win in 2021
aswell
it was a 3-0
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later maybe
Is there an Overwatch 2 discord? Or one for scrims?
scrim what exactly with whom
Scirm Overwatch 2 with other teams?
Still no email as to my applicability to the beta
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WTF
How the fuck am I supposed to watch both of them at the same time
so the embargo ends in 100m then i take it and we will get OW2 content?
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Content??
shy
bro just wait
we’re not at the becky sojourn tutorial yet
or the patiphan one
Aspire
Shut up
Deleted?
I like both aspire and shy so I think I will watch both videos 
they posted a diagram of alpha decay
beta is in 5 days
etc
so this is weird
very weird
It’s just gonna be a video of Decay and Mag stealing someone’s lunch money
True alphas
the entire justice roster on the street pull up on a homeless man beat him and steal his change
Hahaha
opener is going to go unhinged and open up his skull
justice arrested for murder
in the 2nd degree
justice is served
carpe to spark ??????
BLIZZARD PLEASE LET ME IN BETA
is that dream i had of Overwatch 2 not yet existing true?
why blizzard should let me into the beta: summer starts the same day as the beta for me
5 days
why blizzard should let me into the beta: im very nice and the only tank player in NA
why blizzard should let me into the beta: I am capable of playing mercy AND lucio
holy shit the music was blasting mid comp game
this countdown
i turned off discord
is so
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Tracer has a new pulse bomb voice line
it's a small feature
but it's cool asf
that icon in the bottom left is ugly af
Feed me more sojourn clips
Spex > pelican
i dont like this
are we legit only getting new maps
and doom orisa rework
and sojourn
in owl
we get shanghai dragons 2nd championship
i really hope they're keeping a new hero secret
they actually fucking jebaited us
claiming owl would be on ow2
but it's just sojourn, 5v5 and a few hero reworks
I think you forgot the biggest and best change that makes the game much much different
no 2cp
i enjoy anubis and hanamura
Oddly, me too
Hate lunar
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no way thats the real chiyo
same pfp as real one
based castle crashers music
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if you remake reinhardt from scratch, this would be the result
It could be worse, look at FIFA Esports
man watching some of the doom gameplay for ow2
Good doom players might actually be put in on tank in owl for him
if he's meta
it seems bunker is less prevalent, which is good news for everyone
My August stonks are gonna skyrocket during OW2 https://fxtwitter.com/August_NZ/status/1517190576973565961
Orisa looks really good too ngl
fifa gets a new game yearly
I genuinely can't wait to try orisa
samito said whoru was nuts at him
WHORU MY GOAT
🐐
whoru finally gotta get playtime
sparple getting played over Fearless/Hanbin
Only to get diffed by whoru
sad chipsa retired
whoru is lucky chipsa hasn't been signed
man would stomp the OWL
WHERE
yeah whoru is a doom playa
False is a bettor doom tank
mid team for 5 years https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1517218432613240834
Agree
Profit is god tho
Fropit is overrated
4/5 players of our starting 5 is good
Sp9rk1e on tank
Fits is alright mid table dps
that would be iconic
Imho
SHUT UP
FITS GOAT
not defiant smh
seoul sits defiant
this is sadly not true
scrimbucks in ur head
roster analysts agree with me
70/30 for Defiant.
smurf sits muze
our dps gaps your cheeks
yes
he doesnt
he very does
dps gap is definitely apparent with although visa issues I will not lie
even without there’s a sizeable gap
kdg is overrated
nohill better
yes theyre dumb
ik
kdg didnt know how to play hog
they have mayhem 7th
avrl is intelligent
he isnt
he says smart takes such as jjonak on seoul is dragon buster
yiska has nyxl 12th na

he is wrong
sad
and best philly era
s1 they placed higher
also they had so much talent on the roster it would be criminal if they weren't that good
doesnt matter