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#esports-discussion
willow tartan
@earnest leaf where did u check?
earnest leaf
earnest leaf
only 6 maps though
devout path
I have higher scoped accuracy
earnest leaf
ans played 7 times more maps and maintained that high of a scoped crit acc is the insane part
next mesa
Fits better
willow tartan
higher crit accuracy but not higher kills
ans boosted
carpe greatest widow of 2020
next mesa
Carle was pretty cracked def
worn falcon
Carpe number 1
tropic herald
Atlanta scrim gods I’ve seen this before
frosty patrol
owlel
next mesa
Damn that's crazy
frosty patrol
charge fans did it better
how are you gonna be a charge fan and || not guess a charge player ||
sullen berry
What makes you think that doe
OWLEL 58 1/8
🟩🟩🟩🟩✅
owlel.zusor.io
it finally happened ||picking sp9rk1e first every time has paid off||
mortal cipher
||Mine is usually fleta ||
frosty patrol
Mine is always ga9a
cedar oasis
I think phara is the only hero that was never meta in owl
frosty patrol
I think phara is the only hero that was never meta in owl
soldier?
j silly?
torb? (I don't think the 1 week counts)
bastion? (was only an off-comp to the meta)
hot onyx
Junkrat symm was heavily viable late into s3
That’s when we got the Birdring TP Riptire of 2020
dire phoenix
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hot onyx
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Who plays Overwatch anymore?
This is exclusively a Tekken 7 esports discussion group
dire phoenix
Who plays Overwatch anymore?
if you don't play why you on this server
hot onyx
if you don't play why you on this server
For when Valorant comes on
dire phoenix
.gg/valorant 🤓
hot onyx
Sorry but my passion for camping corners and forgiving rapists will never die
dire phoenix
frosty patrol
daily reminder that the last time we had a chinese contenders championship without apr1ta mvp the COVID vaccine wasn't yet around
apr1ta mmonk were just better
frosty patrol
very good
hot onyx
that's what i like to hear
few months ago there was a contenders showmatch tournament between cn and kr teams
except the kr teams outweighed the cn teams since it was O2 and T1 vs T1W and some other chumps
frosty patrol
netease? where apr1ta didn't play?
it was o2 and talon vs fucking blg and a whomegalul
hot onyx
no not that one where it was goats
not with the recently built rosters with O2 Heesang Spectra and all that
hot onyx
there was one before that with T1
frosty patrol
with dire wolves?
frosty patrol
there was one before that with T1
I'll look
hot onyx
not with Dire Wolves because that one was when MN3 had to be subbed out for fucking Kadalis due to age
hot onyx
ok i'll elaborate further
on the T1 squad
Unique and Krillin were subbed out for Anamo Aimgod
and it was after the NetEase tourney
and definitely after Runaway and EM disbanded
frosty patrol
not the right one
hold on
here
found it
anamo aimgod t1
cursed
@hot onyx
frosty patrol
yes
hot onyx
mike you are legendary
frosty patrol
I watch an unhealthy amount of overwatch
frosty patrol
I can find overwatch matches, so the bitches shall swarm
cedar oasis
What about getting a life
hot onyx
this is as good as life gets
hot onyx
depression comes with and without Overwatch
all you have to do is decide whether you want to be a fountain of knowledge like AVRL
hot onyx
Oh dear T1 got full held and they’re angry
next mesa
just gotta remind myself that it could be a lot worse than FiXa
Be grateful fr fr
vagrant jacinth
this is as good as life gets
Gets better once the season starts
hot onyx
Be grateful fr fr
ikr, one team exchanging Tobi for Anamo is bad enough
trail perch
all you have to do is decide whether you want to be a fountain of knowledge like...
me
I watch every single second of gameplay for ow and val both
i am an absolute nutcase
I have all the spiciest takes because of that tho
you know how some people go insane with too much knowledge
thats me
hot onyx
I watch every single second of gameplay for ow and val both
who played in the NEXUS/NEXT cup of 2020 hosted by the Shanghai Dragons?
trail perch
The one before s4 or during s3?
hot onyx
before s4
trail perch
Seoul, Dallas, Charge, Dragons
Iirc
dallas started shit
then switched to double bubble
and pounded seoul
but then seoul and shanghai were the finals
and shanghai took it in pretty dominant fashion
Am i right?
hot onyx
no it was actually Dragons Valiant Titans and BM Hawk
trail perch
who played in the NEXUS/NEXT cup of 2020 hosted by the Shanghai Dragons?
also i think it was january 2021
trail perch
no it was actually Dragons Valiant Titans and BM Hawk
Ok so got it im right
hot onyx
you were close
trail perch
There was also shanghai masters a bit before then
Which was when the most of the world was truly exposed to SHY
I watch this shit on Billibilli
That website is like a fever dream
hot onyx
"china is a fever dream"
trail perch
No but literally
if you have epilepsy
or cant handle random colors and popups
dont go on billibilli
you will have a seizure
Colonel Sans when i say i have a problem
I mean it
I still remember when fleta played for Lunatic Hai against Miraculous Youngster in the seoul cup
Unless im on crack and fleta just didnt do that
hot onyx
I still remember when Fleta and Shu played on the same team and it was one of the worst teams in Apex/Contenders
trail perch
Fleta didnt play a second of contenders
check ur facts
and theres more than just that
they had a special someone else on that squad
do you remember?
Ok well since im guessing u dont it was CoMa
Imagine having a CoMa shu backline
supporting fleta on dps/hog
How did they not win more
hot onyx
i did know it was CoMa actually
but those were the only ones i remembered
plus Fleta Shu sounds better than Fleta CoMa Shu
next mesa
Yeah
hot onyx
https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1515285768851402759?s=20&t=fM3-U2C_OPd...
Yooo Florida somewhat decent now?
north relic
eh
hot onyx
they could get a meta
with Xzi Hydron dps duo
Someone tank or Mirror doomfist/zarya
double flex support when Majed is in NA
I could see them being above bottom 3
twilit oriole
WHAT
frosty patrol
with Xzi Hydron dps duo
xzi hydron, someone, mirror brig majed zen
is not bottom 3
balmy wolf
why xzi?????? ??
frosty patrol
Xzi desperate enough to go back to NA
maybe floridas got a paycheck for him
vagrant jacinth
Yooo Florida somewhat decent now?
I don't think so. Probably better than before but not enough to save them
hot onyx
xzi hydron, someone, mirror brig majed zen
only in that specific composition
if Adam Checkmate Anamo or Kariv see playtime they are though
frosty patrol
not chadmate
willow tartan
Florida is moving to Korea?
trim shadow
So while i was off commenting mental seppuku
Chengdu potentially collasping and today xzi if he joins florida probably gives them a fighting chance
cunning patrol
is not bottom 3
it is
trail perch
why is Max a better winston than Belosrea?
cause belosrea is shit lmao
north relic
checkmate will pound
Problem is that checkmate and mirror will be competing for the tank position
worn falcon
You guys are forgetting Kariv gonna carry Florida
vagrant jacinth
lip better
True
devout path
@hot onyx hope you choke on a rock
plush grail
<@!398500839469219850> hope you choke on a rock
cock*
frosty patrol
Chadmate off rein yes
off rein and orisa*
frosty patrol
Xzi gonna be on ping till solved issues
xzi has a visa
hot onyx
Damn should've spent that $101,400 on MN3 💀
cunning patrol
mn3 is worth more than that
frosty patrol
go into owl discord
post the seemingly radical take that apr1ta is better than edison and guriyo
get told “funny joke”
willow tartan
there is a owl discord?
frosty patrol
yes
but don’t go there
they think doha is a highly elite dps player
in the same tier as other elite dps players like leave lip sparkle proper etc
willow tartan
sounds like this channel
hot onyx
he is elite on sombra
frosty patrol
yes
hot onyx
everything else he's like low A at best
hot onyx
name a bad reaper player
frosty patrol
im37
hot onyx
oh yeah
willow tartan
i was just assaulted by a light fixture
twilit oriole
go into owl discord
You mean r/owl
vagrant jacinth
ED > any other owl discord
hot onyx
get told “funny joke”
it's like half of OWL viewers don't watch any t2 and just judge new players based on the team they're on
frosty patrol
Layer 1: rate players based on team success or for new players what team they’re on
Layer 2: Platchat opinions
Layer 3: Tactical Crouch opinions
Layer 4: r/competitiveoverwatch
Layer 5: r/owl
Layer 6: owl team discords
Layer 7: Contenders broadcast live chat
Layer 8: ED
8 is the worst degeneracy possible
hot onyx
what about rating Seicoe above bottom 10?
frosty patrol
what about rating Seicoe above bottom 10?
could be either layer 8 or layer 4
hot onyx
because that's unironic
frosty patrol
either a shit r/competitiveoverwatch take or a gigabrain take
hot onyx
technically, if you rate Falcons decently and look at other dps in the league, it's not that bad of a take
frosty patrol
I just consider EU contenders (and most of NA contenders) the talent clearance section
with obvious exceptions
frosty patrol
dude telling me because bliss is chorong tier opener is good
(bliss is not chorong tier)
frosty patrol
and higher than Valentine
that’s fair
I just think seicoe is from the clearance bin
either he’s the best mcdouble ever or a discount middling at best fdps
This is such a bad list
there is a such thing as too many nohill stocks
also eternal above outlaws justice is actually painful
twin bloom
what about rating Seicoe above bottom 10?
Seicoe is the worst player on titans
twin bloom
And maybe will hold em back
devout path
Valentine is god
twin bloom
Valentine is god
He sucks
twin bloom
You know ur opinion is right when kungarna disagrees
I agree that lip is good
And disagree
That kellex is good
Does that make those statements incorrect?
devout path
No one said either of those things
devout path
If u disagree they’re right
devout path
I will wait for the day someone says kellex is good
frosty patrol
kellex is good
twin bloom
kellex is good
I disagree
devout path
I trust Mike more than you
frosty patrol
frosty patrol
homie rated krillin based on 2020 london
devout path
This one has ojee spelt wrong
twin bloom
That list isn't that bad
Some questionable picks
Like punk A
Marv1 b when he should b F
frosty patrol
Some questionable picks
like fury over void
fury in S, void in A+
coluge in A+
coluge > space cr0ng piggy is weird
twin bloom
fury in S, void in A+
Yeah
twin bloom
coluge > space cr0ng piggy is weird
Thats based
north relic
Why is daan not in c
gusty rampart
Fury is not a S
frosty patrol
yes
cunning patrol
Fury is god
raw ermine
north relic
It’s comical that you have Dallas fifth NA
twin bloom
It’s comical that you have Dallas fifth NA
Agree
They are 4th
Bettor than midlaws
Midlaws run weird comps
And have passive playahs
twin bloom
Outlaws are very mid
north relic
Shd better
twin bloom
Because of funkyjunky
cunning patrol
Shd better
In North America
earnest leaf
So xzi might be going to florida
cedar oasis
vestola A?
willow drum
coluge should be A prob
frosty patrol
oh yeah i forgot that Valentine popped off on torb and soldier that one time
and genji
hot onyx
he did really well vs the Titans
hot onyx
still rather have Teru
hot onyx
yeah but does he lose on viable heroes?
frosty patrol
yeah but does he lose on viable heroes?
they’re even on most viable heroes
hot onyx
that's cool and all but Rascal still brig diffs him
frosty patrol
that's cool and all but Rascal still brig diffs him
rascal doesn’t brig diff ttuba though
hot onyx
i just do not rate Valentine at all
hot onyx
rascal doesn’t brig diff ttuba though
TTuba doesn't brig diff Mirror
cedar oasis
but mirror doesn’t brig diff pelican
he does
cedar oasis
pelican overrated
cedar oasis
speedy better
trail perch
and dallas signs rascal as a support player
to play brig
or bap in double FS
if ch1yo just sucks
frosty patrol
pelican is worse than only a few people on brig
trail perch
IK CH1YO IS INSANE
hot onyx
show me where Pelican can brig diff Neptuno
frosty patrol
show me where Pelican can brig diff Neptuno
he can’t
cedar oasis
pelican is mad overated like all reign players
kind gyro
In no world should they be putting pelican in on brig 💀
frosty patrol
carcar best MS s3
hot onyx
Carcar really went from Alarm to Roolf as a fs partner
frosty patrol
which was just unlucky
he was one of the best main supports
reverse boosted by roolf
frosty patrol
carcar out of retirement
goes to shock
dominates
retires
comes back for one game on the 0-23 s6 spitfire
hot onyx
goes to the mushroom village with Snillo
frosty patrol
makes them win
snillo and carcar descend from the forest upon the league once per year
bringing many 3-0s for the worst team in the league
and finding dead bodies in hotels
cedar oasis
mirror anamo beat them
twin bloom
show me where Pelican can brig diff Neptuno
Pelican was a better brig than masaa
When he played it last year
sullen berry
Pelican was a better wrecking Ball for a one-off showmatch later last ear than many of the bottom teams main tanks
Wonder how Hadi and SparkR will look on NA ping, Closer to all the other players
vagrant cargo
Pelican was a better brig than masaa
Pelican is also the greatest dps in NA in my book
gusty rampart
Wonder how Hadi and SparkR will look on NA ping, Closer to all the other players
They'll look mid as hell
twin bloom
Pelican is also the greatest dps in NA in my book
But proper
vagrant cargo
With viogoat
twin bloom
To a title
vagrant cargo
To all titles*
earnest leaf
vagrant cargo
Baazo do u agree that fraudpe gets demolished by godring in an all time greatest hitscan debate
twin bloom
https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1515411485459165189
Lol
vagrant cargo
https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1515411485459165189
Mid
earnest leaf
is lukemino that fucking bad that even london doesn't want him
twin bloom
Baazo do u agree that fraudpe gets demolished by godring in an all time greatest...
Yeah
@vagrant cargo how would you rank london for the owl next season
vagrant cargo
Uh
twin bloom
Worse than crimzo bostone
vagrant cargo
Bottom 2
twin bloom
Potentially
twin bloom
Boston is ass
twin bloom
Going for marvel instead of coluge or muze is crazy
Well nobody wanted coluge
Even titans
Until shock the goats
Came in
vagrant cargo
That's stupid
Jokes about NA aside I think coluge is deffo the best western tank
Now that super is dead
cunning patrol
reiner and victoria would own north america
north relic
brig becomes heavy meta
!!!!
young fractalBOT
!!
sullen berry
Brig and tracer is all but locked in for the early OW2 meta
sullen berry
Depends on how heavy handed the rework is on her defensive skills
Like the shield she has now is useless to casuals
north relic
imo sombra might be more of a lock than brig
sullen berry
But has been quite essential to her kit along with zen or bap in current OW
Sombra being locked = lip and Eileen ☺
Also fits, jinmu and architect in APAC if they decide to play it off as their own thing
plush grail
Fuck sans
cedar oasis
fuck sans
willow tartan
dva sojrn sombra core
trim shadow
When does owl start again
north relic
oh wait they're a content creator lol
I nearly posted this in <#2847088999727104...
you guys dont announc content creators?
raw ermine
nah
shell onyx
hes actually pretty cool
Does a lot of educational content on yt and twitch
helps people understand how to play meta comps and such
north relic
im down if people join
cunning patrol
ok
nas last hope
appears to not actually be nas last hope
this is very upsetting
to see
hot onyx
im down if people join
It would appear nobody is interested in Jackbocks night
raw ermine
north relic
who?
hot onyx
London McGhee
cunning patrol
london are sooo bad lol
cunning patrol
i believe in
victoria
he will turn that team around
they are just not trying in scrimmages
sullen berry
who?
Did you just whomegalul the team that beat Redbird esports in Overwatch Collegiate
Of course you did 
trim shadow
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3lsJDG2c1zy5ZYCPIMLG1y8KusIYXa6s
Man i felt that 
Brain too big moment
twilit oriole
leaked chorong is a dps player
Something WDG would do🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🫣🫣🫶🫶🫰🫰
balmy wolf
crimzo is not a bad player
tawdry hamlet
Anyone realize that ljg had no competition for best main support last year
He had yveltal when he wanted to try and skewed on brig only
He is better than Jecse on every hero
Crimzo is a mid player who got hyped up because his support duo was a potato with limbs by owl standards and his tanks carried
Any game where the dps diff decided who won, Houston almost always choked tbh
earnest leaf
Houston would have done a bit better if they forced what they were good at
If they just ran rush they would have been better
Happy sym, danteh mei, jjanggu rein joobi lucio
Happy got fucked just like ans did
twas an unlucky meta
Also LJG had no realistic competition since he was just able to play FS a little and was really good at brig
twin bloom
Crimzo is a mid player who got hyped up because his support duo was a potato wit...
The houston tanks never carried
earnest leaf
So that plus being on the best team makes you look super good
twin bloom
I'm gonna get flamed
But joobi lucio was better than fdgod lucio
At least when they played
Each other
Stage 1
Fdgod was trying to solve world hunger
Last szn
tawdry hamlet
That Houston roster looking back was pretty weak player wise
Mid dps line, low support line, mid tanks
Inflated by a shitty comp
twin bloom
That Houston roster looking back was pretty weak player wise
Danteh, happy, piggy, and crimzo were good
At least compared to other players
Maybe not crimzo
But danteh happy and piggy were always gonna be good
twin bloom
And joobi jjangu were good on their one plays
tawdry hamlet
happy had one pop off performance and was just normal the rest of the season and silly when he played tracer
Better than bqb and other na hitscans sure
But I didn't think he was that special
twin bloom
Happy is a good HS
But
Outlaws played weird comps
And had passive players
It was sad to see
earnest leaf
they forced dive with like two good dive players at best
tawdry hamlet
Outlaws played weird comps
S3 playoffs pharah hydration comps 
Best comp of all time
tawdry hamlet
they forced dive with like two good dive players at best
Then brought in dreamer who was known for his rein more than his monkey to try and force it more
next mesa
Why did they play
tawdry hamlet
twin bloom
Just weird comp choices
next mesa
Dreamer
next mesa
Tbh shanghai
earnest leaf
apparently jjanggu's english sucked
twin bloom
In a lucio moira meta
earnest leaf
so dreamer played over him, at least that's all I have heard
tawdry hamlet
Jake Mercy goated 
literally a ranked gm mercy
twin bloom
Dreamer
Jjangu ball is ass
I remember early scrimbucks
People thought
Jjangu was gonna be worst MT
In owl
Because his ball
Was so bad
earnest leaf
might be a hot take, but you could take any owl player, make them grind mercy for a few weeks and they could play her in owl and do fine
twin bloom
might be a hot take, but you could take any owl player, make them grind mercy fo...
Dhak
tawdry hamlet
Remember people thought Dallas had a chance because they won the first tourney before teams figured out anything and just forced rein
twin bloom
Altering
tawdry hamlet
And then Shanghai beat them every time after that
earnest leaf
old owl pros weren't that good tbf
also dallas was one fight of 4-0ing shd in the second tourney
then the lost and got rolled by ball
the series was over the moment fearless tilt swapped hog on fucking eich
twin bloom
Outlaws are gonna be mid next season
Despite upgrading
In every position
Other than happy to mer1t
Sadly
tawdry hamlet
What shocks me is Shanghai coaching, when they tried that soldier comp and got dumpstered, they adjusted and changed and won whereas Glads under dpei or Chengdu would have just said ok run that same comp !
twin bloom
And its because they play weird comps
That make no sense
The funky junky
Special
I still can not believe
tawdry hamlet
Tbh is it just me or do na coaches just make really really questionable comp changes mid game all the time
earnest leaf
What shocks me is Shanghai coaching, when they tried that soldier comp and got d...
Could also be player mindset being more confident in swapping comps mid match to adapt
tawdry hamlet
Like apac runs some dumb comps but na will like pull out a roadhog sym junkrat comp while 1-1 on match point
next mesa
Might even be a bit more consistent
twin bloom
Mer1t is a good happy replacement
He is a downgrade
next mesa
Although he hit his peaks already
twilit oriole
Glads are shit
twin bloom
His tracer isn't even that bad
earnest leaf
Happy would have given the same issues ans has on glads outside of his hanzo being better
twilit oriole
Still better than defiant
Okay but they’re still shit
tawdry hamlet
Glads could've had the goat im37 or Jerry 😤
next mesa
Ans will be good on widow metas
tawdry hamlet
Unironically tho Edison could've been a cool pickup for them
earnest leaf
legit all glads need is one tank to not flop, and one of ans/pati to play competently
and they'll do fine
their support line is S tier and kevster fucks
twin bloom
Happy and aspire were the best pickups glads could have had to replace birdring
Other than proper
tawdry hamlet
Heesu would've been cool
twilit oriole
Reiner- downgrade on every hero besides rein
Space-goated OT
Ans- washed asf
Patipahan-shit
Kevster-goat
Skewed-brig is S, rest is mid
Shu- goated FS
Fastro-okay MS, nothing special
twin bloom
Reiner- downgrade on every hero besides rein
Space-goated OT
Ans- washed asf
Pat...
Reiner isn't a downgrade on ball
Idk
Ar worst a sidegrade
Only a downgrade on monkey
earnest leaf
Reiner might unironically be an upgrade over muze on everything except winston
tawdry hamlet
Fastro is like top 5 minimum on every support
twin bloom
And orisa
tawdry hamlet
earnest leaf
He'll probably be a better doom tank and with new orisa since his mechanics are better
twilit oriole
Only a downgrade on monkey
Monkey Orisa ball downgrade
twin bloom
Anyway
twin bloom
Monkey Orisa ball downgrade
At worst case his ball is slightly worse
twilit oriole
Ball idk, sidegrade?
twin bloom
But i don't think it will be
tawdry hamlet
Is lastro overrated 🤔
twilit oriole
Is lastro overrated 🤔
Yes
twin bloom
Ball is his best hero
twilit oriole
Very
tawdry hamlet
Yay
twilit oriole
Bro was ass last year
twilit oriole
He’s mid
earnest leaf
honestly might have been the terrible midness of toronto
twilit oriole
Lastro suxked
tawdry hamlet
I can't believe logix didn't find a team grrr he just barely lost a duel to the best owl tracer rn Dalton so he's nuts
twilit oriole
He was not good
twin bloom
And na1st
twilit oriole
On anything
earnest leaf
I think lastro can turn things around
twin bloom
I can't believe logix didn't find a team grrr he just barely lost a duel to the ...
Dalton gapped kevster
twilit oriole
I think lastro can turn things around
He can’t
twin bloom
Before they joined owl
tawdry hamlet
If teru wasn't on a shit team and didn't have like 2 big blades people would call him bottom 2 flex dps
twin bloom
Dalton had to deadlift roolf and shredlock
tawdry hamlet
twin bloom
To a title
twin bloom
If teru wasn't on a shit team and didn't have like 2 big blades people would cal...
Agree
twilit oriole
Don’t diss Weru
tawdry hamlet
He had two blade highlights and a blizzard and people were like omg a player on vancouver who looks kind of like an owl player he's really good !!!
tawdry hamlet
Myunbong syndrome without the myunbong skill which is already an average bar
twin bloom
Thats why titans ran linkzr mei against boston
tawdry hamlet
twin bloom
And barely lost
tawdry hamlet
Literally if Boston signed any contenders dps out there instead of im37 they'd have been eons better
earnest leaf
Wonder how they would have done if soon got to NA
and he could play tracer for them
tawdry hamlet
Soon in s3 was like top 10 tracers still somehow so
Could've been fun
I loved Soon as a player
cunning patrol
Reiner- downgrade on every hero besides rein
Space-goated OT
Ans- washed asf
Pat...
fastro is far better than okay
u r clueless i think...
twilit oriole
fastro is far better than okay
Okay
cunning patrol
shut up idiot
twilit oriole
Smd
tawdry hamlet
You know my brain has always read that as shaking my dick
Even knowing the meaning it refuses to correlate
gusty rampart
Mayhem constantly has these weird ass signings
Remember when they were gonna go full NA
earnest leaf
that was only super early on
gusty rampart
Yeah
earnest leaf
when they were probably gunning for AT
gusty rampart
But it went from that to fairly mixed
To mostly Korean players
It's just interesting
Because KariV, Anamo, and Xzi have all been considered "fallen off"
earnest leaf
not xzi
kariv was also just while sirmajed can't play?
and for double FS if needed
Anamo idk, he's probably mid or so
gusty rampart
not xzi
You can't really tell me hasn't fallen off
He's joining the motherfucking Florida Mayhem
Biggest desperate move
earnest leaf
yea because he cucked himself by sticking to apac only
gusty rampart
Like I love the guy but that kinda shows something
earnest leaf
when those teams already had players
tawdry hamlet
Kariv is washed and bad, anamo was and is always mid, and xzi hasn't played a game in a year and is now picking up a contract in a stacked league
earnest leaf
and waited so long to open up to NA teams
tawdry hamlet
Have some faith
gusty rampart
Xzi cucked himself yeah
tawdry hamlet
I'm just saying Xzi was like top 4 in s3 hitscans he wasn't like a Shockwave looks really good and is mid he was genuinely like really fucking good lmao
gusty rampart
Yeah without a doubt
He's good but it's been a year
He could be like ANS s4
Good but not prime
tawdry hamlet
S4 ans in stage one would've been a lot better
Imo
In a happy hanzo role
Assuming shock didn't have a stroke and a breakdown
Like they did chemistry wise
keen briar
Who’s the worst team
earnest leaf
london
keen briar
Who u go for
worn falcon
Toronto stonks going up
gusty rampart
My main problem with Charge is they did atrocious last year and didn't really make too many changes
London did a few which don't change much but might cop them a few wins
frosty patrol
they did though?
gusty rampart
It's just I feel better about teams like Valiant than Charge
frosty patrol
they have straight upgrades at backline and hitscan and don't have to play rio anymore
gusty rampart
Idk it could be Chengdu if everything goes catastrophic
gusty rampart
they have straight upgrades at backline and hitscan and don't have to play rio a...
Fair
Rio kinda doggy
And replacing KariV Mandu was probably for the best
cloud latch
if charge and london fac3d eachother who would win I think charge would 3-0 10 times over
gusty rampart
It just feels like other teams gonna be better
frosty patrol
if all of the rumored players leave and chengdu signs riven m1ka kyo instead, they're still not bottom 4
earnest leaf
I honestly want chengdu to collapse
gusty rampart
I honestly want chengdu to collapse
Based
earnest leaf
so I can watch leave maybe get on a team where he'll win something
willow tartan
haha no
gusty rampart
Meh take
willow tartan
unless you mean on the bench of the dragons farming a ring
frosty patrol
he can't win something on the 3rd best team in the league?
earnest leaf
They failed to do so last year with weaker competition
gusty rampart
Dragons signing Leave would be a literal sign of dominance
earnest leaf
all they did was add a decent dps to compliment leave
frosty patrol
They failed to do so last year with weaker competition
apr1ta and ga9a solo tank
gusty rampart
And cut
willow tartan
i suppose he would've done better in the NA region
gusty rampart
Cut Lateyoung and like Jimmy
frosty patrol
apr1ta is a banger pickup
earnest leaf
i'm not too sold on ga9a solo tank
willow tartan
i mean i'm not sold on any tank solo tankin g
frosty patrol
apr1ta leave jinmu is unironically a top dps line in owl
willow tartan
teams that are banking on solo tanks are just dumb
earnest leaf
I'm sure he'll do fine but I don't think he'll be able to step up if an OT meta comes
gusty rampart
Shock, Seoul, Outlaws, Valiant all fumbling
frosty patrol
a riven pickup would be huge
earnest leaf
I think solo tank is high risk high reward
gusty rampart
I feel like Smurf could definitely do it
If there was one player who could do it'd be Choihyobin
willow tartan
I think solo tank is high risk high reward
there is literally no reason to not sign a second tank.
gusty rampart
there is literally no reason to not sign a second tank.
Budget and lack of options.
earnest leaf
When your only options are mid tier or worse players there is a reason to not sign them
willow tartan
you get two different players who can try their hand at solo tanking so higher chance that one of them transcends into god level tank player
frosty patrol
If there was one player who could do it'd be Choihyobin
not choi
willow tartan
and if not then you can swap other player
gusty rampart
Awful take
willow tartan
there is literally zero reason not to get a second tank player as a backup at least
gusty rampart
Ameng ball one trick
gusty rampart
I've heard Lucio is a must pick at the moment
I've also heard Outlaws have been dominating
willow tartan
jake lucio?
gusty rampart
Then again Scrim Bucks lmao
frosty patrol
Ameng ball one trick
ameng is a one trick is ignoring the really obscure chinese tournament where ameng dva carried guxue to a title
frosty patrol
I've heard Lucio is a must pick at the moment
where did you hear that?
fuel leak was obviously fake
gusty rampart
Plat Chat won't stfu about it
frosty patrol
oh platchat
frosty patrol
platchat doesn't know jackshit
frosty patrol
yes but what I'm saying
willow tartan
as an blizzard employee
frosty patrol
most coaches probably have not figured it out
earnest leaf
A lot of people who have a bit of inside information like to take the little they know and exaggerate it's importance
frosty patrol
so why would mrx
willow tartan
i mean
maybe its just so obviously busted that its not hard to figure out
but then again itll get nerfed when beta rolls out anyway lol
and then again when league starts
willow tartan
what if
teams go double flex because they knew MS was gonna be super powerful
so therefore blizzard nerfs them during the playtests before the league starts
and therefore double flex is relevant on league begin
unmatched intellect
earnest leaf
I think teams are finding out FS are capable of filling the shoes of MS players for the most part
Like how 99% of FS are better than MS players on brig already
willow tartan
i am going to doubt that statement
because we havent seen most FS play brig
and the ones that do only play brig because the coaches know those players can play brig so its sample bias
earnest leaf
iirc coaches have just said it's a mechanics diff
since you unironically need to have good mechanics on brig in owl
frosty patrol
yeah a lot of main supports got mechanics
ljg is probably a cracked tracer or something
willow tartan
everyone in OWL has good mechanics
willow tartan
dva player mechanics man
willow tartan
If I met a girl with hanbin level mechanics I am running out the door because that's a serial killer
frosty patrol
owlel
gusty rampart
My dumbass clicked it lmao
frosty patrol
devout path
Valentine is god
next mesa
In contenders
Yes
Like unironically
He looked good
But it's sad that the only moment he looked good in OWL was when he diffed hotba on that one map lmao
twin bloom
Imagine how awkward london coms are right now lmao
Their still scrimming with provide until they find a replacement
Which is just funny to me
earnest leaf
tbf, are they just supposed to stop scrimming until they find a replacement?
Although I guess they have 3 options, scrim with provide until they find a replacement, cycle through ringers in the meantime, or stop scrimming altogether
alright more and more shit on chengdu imploding
Over/under chengdu dropping half their roster by like april 25th
frosty patrol
under
earnest leaf
If it is all true they would have to do it soon
Feel bad for the players since some might get cucked for roster spots since everyone is done with theirs
vagrant jacinth
Chengdu were supposed to pop this season, not fall to pieces 😢
frosty patrol
they haven’t fallen to pieces yet
vagrant jacinth
OWLEL 59
frosty patrol
halo’s leaks are 50% bullshit this off-season
vagrant jacinth
Rumours aren't sounding good though
vagrant jacinth
What other fuckups did he have? I thought he had a good record this off-season?
frosty patrol
he had a good record up until recently
he said woohyal was a player for months
then doubled back to sasin valiant
he said gargoyle nyxl iirc
there was this
vagrant jacinth
Oh
hot onyx
"according to multiple sources the Los Angeles Valiant think a 4th dps is a better choice than a second tank"
cedar oasis
Dps players are cheap
hot onyx
yes but these tank players that aren't in the league would likely be fine with minimum wage if it's their only chance
north relic
im actually so good
cedar oasis
Lsd you smell
willow tartan
"according to multiple sources the Los Angeles Valiant think a 4th dps is a bett...
quad dps comp wins games
hot onyx
@frosty patrol rewatched contenders china finals and I'm a believer
hot onyx
quad dps comp wins games
can't wait for symm to be a support again and to watch Diya Innovation Becky Sasin and Ezhan pop off
north relic
not fixa?
hot onyx
yeah he played for T1
not a rookie
now, time for a FiXa watchparty
come on down to the viewing party to view your ROTY frontrunner
hot onyx
bad rankings
devout path
wow real s1mple
@cedar oasis ??? they picked up poko idiot
you said poko over hotba
it was double bubble meta
it was primarily double bubble
in grands
hot onyx
@devout path
devout path
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hot onyx
Striker washed
devout path
literally not even bottom 3 team r u ok
hot onyx
addi