how can fate beat super in terms of career
#esports-discussion
frosty patrol
fate has def had a better career than super
plush grail
??????
hot onyx
super won 2 championships
saying Super won 2019 is like saying WhoRU and Develop won 2021
frosty patrol
1 year mostly on the bench then pretty mid
plush grail
yeah lets look at super
hot onyx
one year of playing his one trick
next mesa
saying Super won 2019 is like saying WhoRU and Develop won 2021
Goats meta was all him? The fuck you talking about
frosty patrol
one year on the bench 30% of the tme and overall not phenomenal
north relic
Just give super 2 years
hot onyx
Goats meta was all him? The fuck you talking about
I'm talking about the double shield where he was permabenched for Smurf
plush grail
crazy how he had 1 less good year and retired and now suddenly his achievemnts are gone???
north relic
I'm talking about the double shield where he was permabenched for Smurf
Saying super didn’t win 2019 is like saying smurf didn’t win 2020
hot onyx
well y'see there it was shared playtime between the 3 Shock tanks in the finals
2019 was permanently Smurf Choi during finals
frosty patrol
super had one insane year, 30% of an insane year, and 70% of a good year
hot onyx
Leave to defiant
so true
plush grail
what did fate have? some mediocre years and then a year where he joined a already dominating team and wasn't a standout player???
north relic
what did fate have? some mediocre years and then a year where he joined a alread...
Fate not a standout player?
tropic herald
Id imagine for a Chinese player to go to a non Chinese team this late in the off season would be hard but I’d really like to see it happen
north relic
Also those years he was an A tier player not mediocre
plush grail
fuck you lsd
i have given up talking like a normal person
i will just insult you all now
north relic
What?
hot onyx
what did fate have? some mediocre years and then a year where he joined a alread...
an equal record to Super in titles when you consider the playtime factor
north relic
Both of you guys are kinda downplaying super and fate
plush grail
no
im doing the exact opposite
idk why yall are claiming like super was a bench boy for most of his career
hot onyx
Fate has always been a top 5 main tank
plush grail
no
hot onyx
wait no season 2
north relic
im doing the exact opposite
No I’m saying that sans is downplaying super and you are downplaying fate
hot onyx
forgot about that abomination
hot onyx
No I’m saying that sans is downplaying super and you are downplaying fate
no i would never downplay a rein genji two trick
frosty patrol
fate was top 5 when it wasn't 2019
frosty patrol
super was top 1 for a season then a bench boy then split time and probably 5-7th
north relic
no i would never downplay a rein genji two trick
aren’t you arguing that 2019 didn’t count as a championship for super
plush grail
super was top 1 for a season then a bench boy then split time and probably 5-7th
super 5-7th???
hot onyx
stage 2 was his title
plush grail
name 7 players that beat super
hot onyx
but the grand finals belonged to Smurf
purely on a playtime factor
cheering from the sidelines is about as much impact as a fan
cedar oasis
@plush grail vc
frosty patrol
super 5-7th???
in s4
hot onyx
so next argument is gonna be "Shock fans won 2019 with their stellar cheering factor"
plush grail
@hot onyxvc
hot onyx
<@398500839469219850>vc
coming babe
cedar oasis
super has won more then fate
hot onyx
super has won more then fate
super was benched for 2 matches, including a grand finals so taking that out of consideration they are equally matched in titles
hot onyx
saying otherwise is like saying Rapel has more titles than Twilight
because of his titles on the bench
frosty patrol
we're arguing about who had the better career
north relic
saying otherwise is like saying Rapel has more titles than Twilight
Aren’t we talking about careers though
frosty patrol
titles don't matter for better career
worn falcon
The apes then crusty
north relic
saying otherwise is like saying Rapel has more titles than Twilight
Doesn’t twilight have more titles
frosty patrol
sans you're being stupid
twilit oriole
Defiant will beat shock this year
north relic
Possible
twilit oriole
Propha can only carry so much
frosty patrol
titles don't matter for shit, carpe has not had a worse career than doha
doha contributed to a fuel title
north relic
Dps line I favor shock but tank and support is defiant
frosty patrol
carpe has contributed to no titles
frosty patrol
whoru better
obviously
split flume
I have jjonak opinions?
frosty patrol
Super has more titles than fate but fate has had a better career because he was a good contributing player for longer
north relic
Super has more titles than fate but fate has had a better career because he was ...
Super and Fate were good contributing players for three years
vagrant jacinth
Jesus
worn falcon
Chengdu gonna either sell his owl slot or going full Paris
frosty patrol
super had 1 year then a half year then a .75 year
tropic herald
I’m gonna assume they did something ???
worn falcon
Or just CCP things
frosty patrol
I am accepting that
split flume
cedar oasis
sans be like
worn falcon
Ok, Leave and MMonk to valiant
lunar berry
i think i walked past some pro players yesterday
frosty patrol
isn't fate an owl champion 3 time stage champion and world cup champion or something
frosty patrol
so libero is the best player ever
cedar oasis
so libero is the best player ever
yes
north relic
Sorry but earnings doesn’t mean shit
split flume
Super is a 2 time owl champion 3 time stage champion and a world cup champion
worn falcon
Súper is tifa
frosty patrol
@hot onyx libero is the best player ever
split flume
Súper is tifa
frosty patrol
his money man
tropic herald
Content creation is broken if all you care about is money
frosty patrol
libero has won the crypto league 3 times
north relic
How rich is libero
vagrant jacinth
Libero is too stacked
tropic herald
How rich is libero
He’s claimed to be a millionaire but that’s also in won which isn’t crazy or anything
frosty patrol
the difference between super's 1 extra title and fate's longer period of high contribution is pretty decent
north relic
He’s claimed to be a millionaire but that’s also in won which isn’t crazy or any...
How much is it in won
tropic herald
1000000 won -> 815 dollars
north relic
Super millionaire in usd so he is richer
tropic herald
How much is it in won
Idk
frosty patrol
Libero definitely meant USD
north relic
actually redacted must be pretty rich right
north relic
Xqc most successful owl player?
vagrant jacinth
Libero gonna bail out the hunters
worn falcon
split flume
Xqc most successful owl player?
Obviously
worn falcon
Man, the drip
north relic
Xqc greatest owl player then
split flume
Xqc makes over a million yearly purely from subs and donos
cedar oasis
libero is buying the hunters
no valiant
north relic
Valiant is like two bucks
frosty patrol
Libero is going to buy every single OWL team
tropic herald
Xqc makes over a million yearly purely from subs and donos
Don’t even add sponsors man
frosty patrol
Libero will buy Microsoft and therefore Activison-Blizzard
north relic
How much was blizzard
vagrant jacinth
the good ending
north relic
wasn’t it like 46B or smth
split flume
Acti blizz is like 70b
north relic
Libero has nowhere near
worn falcon
Man doesn’t know what to do with it
Buying more Coke
tropic herald
Jjonak looks so happy on stream rn wtf man
tropic herald
Also obligatory posting this
split flume
Based
worn falcon
Jjonak looks so happy on stream rn wtf man
Geguri on sigma?
tropic herald
Oh shit didn’t even notice that
yeah this channel is not a safe space for sinatraa fans
cunning patrol
Godminsoo owns that nobody
next mesa
Jjonak looks so happy on stream rn wtf man
Does it look like he's in the Seoul facility
next mesa
Godminsoo owns that nobody
TRUE!!
tropic herald
Does it look like he's in the Seoul facility
no
hes in an apartment
he just looks visibly happy
sullen berry
Ngl being under 25 making your money off an OWL salary could afford yourself a home real quick
next mesa
Wowow it's all good Seoul being secretive
sullen berry
When will JJonaK learn he is teasin when he could announce his own return on chengdu hunters
plush grail
paris ooga booga eternal awooga kaan
even worse
the bob was as good as death already lmao
@cedar oasis
north relic
gold
noble nexus
gold
cedar oasis
i am great
plush grail
north relic
Judging by the direction of the wind this was made during infiltration
mortal cipher
Yee
tulip tulip
i think the most to prove atm is coluge for super and aimgod for alarm
if they dont play up to point they will reiceve alot of backlash
north relic
proper for leave
tropic herald
i think coluge is an upgrade to super at the very least on all off tanks
aimgod just unlucky idk
north relic
idk every rookie is a huge question mark for me
tulip tulip
i think coluge is an upgrade to super at the very least on all off tanks
super has a great sigma but his dva was....
tropic herald
ive watched coluge for a while, that man is OP
tulip tulip
lets just say, its as good as his genji
north relic
Idc if super can flex he isn’t playing a better off tank than an owl off tank
tropic herald
ok but ranked is like
vagrant jacinth
I don't want to compare aimgod to alarm but that's just me
worn falcon
Cucumber
tropic herald
not the greatest metric for how good u r in pro play
worn falcon
Yeah, even tsuna looks good in ranked
north relic
not the greatest metric for how good u r in pro play
Flora second best dps under proper
north relic
I think the best tank in the league atm is Marve1
?
You overrate flexibility so much
tropic herald
Flora second best dps under proper
bro i think proper is actually gonna hit 4.8
tulip tulip
bro i think proper is actually gonna hit 4.8
proper is cracked
vagrant jacinth
I think the best tank in the league atm is Marve1
Lol
tropic herald
he can play eveery tank
real fast r u baiting ?
north relic
he can play every tank but that doesn’t mean he can play them above average or even average
tulip tulip
he can play every tank but that doesn’t mean he can play them above average or e...
he has a great rein, sigma, and dva, his winston is good. hog isnt needed. the only ones im not too sure about is orisa and hammond becoz i havent seen him play it. from my POV
tropic herald
well its like viol2t can play every supp but should be play them all
north relic
he is a great dva
tulip tulip
viol2t can play all tanks and all dps and all supp
north relic
Bait account
tulip tulip
aside from lucio
north relic
You called marvel dva great
tulip tulip
i wouldnt conside him on the level of fury orvoid but his dva is still good
north relic
You called fury void the same level
north relic
Ok what level is fury dva to you
tulip tulip
Ok what level is fury dva to you
i would put him as best dva but he is now washed so like low S tier dva
north relic
That’s the same tier as void isn’t it
tulip tulip
That’s the same tier as void isn’t it
yes
worn falcon
🎣
north relic
I would much rather take a player with a few s tier tanks than a player with an average of like B- on all of them
Like marvel is rated around average currently
How does cutting it down to one tank make him the best tank
tulip tulip
How does cutting it down to one tank make him the best tank
i didnt cut it down to one take
north relic
No I meant since there is one tank
From two
How does that make an average player the best tank in the league
twin bloom
Like marvel is rated around average currently
Marve1 is shit
And has been
For since s3
north relic
Marve1 is shit
Main tank average is shit but he is average
vagrant jacinth
He's average
twin bloom
Gesture is the bettor playah
tulip tulip
gesture is top tier
twin bloom
And he was shit
north relic
real bait acc
tulip tulip
S+ on orisa, rein, dva, hog, lucio, moira, and sigma
tropic herald
vagrant jacinth
Gestures good but what
worn falcon
Sleeper baits
cunning patrol
Shut up fury hater
cloud latch
he's apologizing to cle0
raw ermine
Twitter
wide minnow
he's apologizing to cle0
What did he do to Cleo bro ?
cloud latch
called her a liar when she came out with the sinatraa story
frosty patrol
owlel
wide minnow
called her a liar when she came out with the sinatraa story
Lmaoo
I don't think dafran should apologise here but he did , that shows his greatness and kindness.
wide minnow
U know dafran is big streamer right that Cleo is just small noob streamer lol
frosty patrol
holy fuck suraj
noble nexus
LOL
frosty patrol
that’s too far
noble nexus
you're so fucking dense it's actually funny
I respect it tho
atleast you're openly dumb as fuck
frosty patrol
suraj is not dumb, he’s 5000 iq but just says insensitive stuff sometimes
oblique wren
U know dafran is big streamer right that Cleo is just small noob streamer lol
Being a big streamer doesn't excuse anything that he did
balmy wolf
^
wide minnow
Twitter
This makes more sense right
Idk why people talk about Sinatraa still it's old story ik he wanted to get back to competitive stuff
I don't think he will be allowed
balmy wolf
Idk why people talk about Sinatraa still it's old story ik he wanted to get back...
it's not an old story if he's actively returning bro
forest token
it comes down to whether an org will want to take the brand risk
wide minnow
Sometimes i don't understand why this game companies care about private stuff
@forest token which team u support?
forest token
for what
wide minnow
Owl
forest token
I typically support players not teams
and most of the players I like aren't there anymore 😔
wide minnow
What's the use of watching owl without supporting a team
worn falcon
cope
forest token
yes
worn falcon
imagine if shadowburn returns to ow
oblique wren
Sometimes i don't understand why this game companies care about private stuff
The same way any other jobs will care about things like this?
forest token
freesdb
wide minnow
Why do u care about haksal when u got pelican
forest token
haksal the OG
forest token
I don't think I've seen pelican's genji
last I looked the list of top tier genjis in the league was like
worn falcon
Erster Gengo > Haksal Gengo
wide minnow
U know xqc og player right no one talks about him
forest token
sparkle
tropic herald
I don't think I've seen pelican's genji
he hasnt played it in pro iirc but hes insane at the hero at the very least
forest token
is eqo still in owl?
wide minnow
U know who is og dafran
tropic herald
hes one of those players u want to play genji in a genji meta
tropic herald
is eqo still in owl?
nah
worn falcon
but because Sparple can't flex
forest token
I haven't heard from him in a hot minute
worn falcon
not signed
tropic herald
he was in last season
worn falcon
dropped from philly
forest token
hes one of those players u want to play genji in a genji meta
depends on style too
worn falcon
Now AimGod gotta carry Philly
forest token
some of the genjis during the brief brig/genji double shield meta had me beside myself
tropic herald
depends on style too
considering his other proj heroes playstyle
i think hed be just fine
wide minnow
The same way any other jobs will care about things like this?
Which other job care about personal stuff?
hot onyx
remember when Hydration MTD'd Fate?
wide minnow
Name any job except this gaming eSports
forest token
remember when houston just didn't have a mt player
oblique wren
Which other job care about personal stuff?
Any good or high end job which will literally do background checks on you
or even something as simple as working within the education/medical sector
wide minnow
Let's assume Elon Musk job
Will u be able to take his company he got many cases going on right now
oblique wren
I don't know what structure his businesses run on
If they're run by shareholders, then if it gets big enough, he could get overturned by them
forest token
well ig he's got a point, we already saw how it went for bobby kotick
oblique wren
if it's not, then it would depend on how investors would react
oblique wren
well ig he's got a point, we already saw how it went for bobby kotick
It's still no justification of brushing it under a rug
or even trying to minimise the situation because the alleged victim has a smaller platform
hot onyx
i swear i didn't mean it vct
wide minnow
Literally few years ago Elon and his wife got divorced many allegations on Elon still it's going on nothing has happened to him lol
oblique wren
Literally few years ago Elon and his wife got divorced many allegations on Elon ...
ok, but why are you comparing Elon Musk to Sinatraa in the first place when Elon has a lot more layers to his job which determine the stability of his career?
Sinatraa's way of getting money is having an audience and being marketable
noble nexus
ah yes Elon Musk and Sinatraa
basically the same person if you ask me
my favourite thing was when Sinatraa launched a rocket
wide minnow
It's not about comparison here mate human vs human comparison can be done
hot onyx
slave ownership and rape isn't that different when you look closely
oblique wren
Having allegations of sexual abuse and misconduct when you are MEANT to be marketable is obviously going to call for actions from the organisation and platforms you work on
forest token
will sponsors want to have their name tied to sinatraa's
oblique wren
It's not about comparison here mate human vs human comparison can be done
But you asked the question of why don't other jobs sanction that kind of behaviour
forest token
that is the question
oblique wren
and I'm explaining to you why
forest token
because if they don't, he will not get picked up
noble nexus
Elon Musk's career isn't built on his public image the same way Sinatraa's is
oblique wren
the nature of the two jobs means that Elon has more control over his career
noble nexus
if Sinatraa has a tainted public image it's reasonable for a company to not want to hire or sign him
oblique wren
and making the comparison is silly
worn falcon
Elon dipped with controlling twitter smh
forest token
the interesting thing for me is that his post implied he already had trials lined up
wide minnow
Guys i like to end this discussion now cuz food is very important nowadays
oblique wren
But his position or career don't excuse his actions either
hot onyx
Elon could just retire and donate 3/4 of his networth to charity and still live happily
forest token
which is extremely interesting if true
wide minnow
Everyone should enjoy food and sleep well now
noble nexus
no thanks
hot onyx
it's 6:40 pm
noble nexus
it's 6:42PM
wide minnow
U know earth is flat right
noble nexus
yea
wide minnow
Go to bed
noble nexus
no one asked
wide minnow
What u mean no one asked ?
unique root
i don’t think that this is the best kind of esports discussion to have btw so it’d be appreciated to move on from the specific topic
wide minnow
U started this discussion
noble nexus
I don't think I did
hot onyx
i don’t think that this is the best kind of esports discussion to have btw so it...
Boston Uprising 20th
noble nexus
Boston Uprising 20th
Philly 21st
wide minnow
If u guys agree that earth is flat then whatever i say here is always true
hot onyx
Philly 21st
Books For Fun 19th
noble nexus
it's not a big deal
wide minnow
It is actually
wide minnow
Yea that makes sense
noble nexus
Books For Fun 19th
Your mother 1st
hot onyx
Your mother 1st
Glads 2nd
balmy wolf
!!movingon
young fractalBOT
Moving swiftly onwards
wide minnow
I'll post a tier list now u
noble nexus
clearly not because that's not how you spell "right"
hot onyx
I'll post a tier list now u
oh boy Suraj ow takes
worn falcon
oh boy
noble nexus
wowie
hot onyx
right before my shower
worn falcon
so Chengdu going full paris or sell his spot.
wide minnow
Best logo Atlanta
worn falcon
and 0 social media like valiant
hot onyx
since my power rankings rate them top 3
worn falcon
what if we snatch mmonk to philly?
hot onyx
well I like to be right, sue me
hot onyx
what if we snatch mmonk to philly?
I'm not greedy, I'll take Farway or Kyo
plush grail
fuck sans
hot onyx
average undertale fan
worn falcon
not doing peace run
hot onyx
still waiting on that list @wide minnow
plush grail
Average gf haver
hot onyx
average gf pretender
plush grail
She was joking
frosty patrol
also <@935697457675923486> when do we film the podcast?
on vacation
I am back the 17th
but I am tired that day
I'll set shit up the 18th
we film 23rd and 24th
hot onyx
She was joking
Cope
hot onyx
we film 23rd and 24th
Sounds good
tawdry hamlet
Yeah lip or fleta are too good to be compared to Klay 
smh
hot onyx
Leave to Dallas and give them a competent hs?
cedar oasis
edison shits on carpe
next mesa
edison shits on carpe
No
tawdry hamlet
Carpe and Decay overrated
Fits better at hard hitscan
And Sombra 
They only have tracer on him
But no fr I love carpe but he's falling a little behind the other top tier hitscans now
Is sad
frosty patrol
decay has tracer reaper projectile symm and hanzo on fits
he's a more flexible player than carpe and fits but worse than fits
tawdry hamlet
I mean some people regard Carpe as a flex dps too even tho his off hitscan picks are dog water
Carpe genji 
frosty patrol
decay is actually decent at genji doom
next mesa
Fits better at hard hitscan <a:gifBarbScream:487251042002665483>
This is a common fact
Carpe is good he's just not top tier
He's also not worse than midison though lol
north relic
decay has tracer reaper projectile symm and hanzo on fits
Decay symm dies first every fight
frosty patrol
not every fight
decay's symm either dies first or kills 6
high risk high reward bumper symm
better than fits and carpe symm
north relic
trying to make feeding sound good
if you die first as much as decay does you don’t deserve to be called a good sym
I would rather have a guy not die first and get medium value than run it down mid with a 30% chance of killing six
frosty patrol
he's better than fits and carpe at symm
realistically it was the fact that all of washington's brawl comp was just
supreme telling everyone to int
mag fury decay assassin closer bebe all became inters in the supreme brawl
cedar oasis
assassin was just shit
frosty patrol
not at mei
cedar oasis
still a team
devout path
Never making it to masters
cedar oasis
still a big L
devout path
Never gonna be relevant
north relic
Addi what’s your favorite team
north relic
Sinatraa to secret confirmed
forest token
im still worried guard are gonna cool off soon
north relic
you seem to have great luck having your favorite team picking up players you hate
devout path
Team secret is in the Philippines
forest token
super happy saya's popping off again
forest token
western teams not screwing over korean import challenge, extremely difficult
north relic
Saya hard carries the team on lan
On Ian?
forest token
he's one of the only players I've seen split his preaim between two angles and still be able to win it
vct has a lan going on
north relic
Oh you meant Lan
forest token
Local Area Network
north relic
earnest leaf
proper at 4761
The Finn Proper duo terrorizing Na ranked
cunning patrol
shutupppppppppppppppppppppp about muze u monkey!!!!
vagrant jacinth
https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1514332606258724871
👀
raw ermine
earnest leaf
Muze is basically sado 2.0
Decent player propped up by an insane support line and team
gusty rampart
Sado is better tho
gusty rampart
This is so interesting
https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1514192853337100291?t=4Phf7DRuXS-75Tjg6Mu5tA&s=19
twilit oriole
Muze is basically sado 2.0
Muze is much better than Sado what
Both you and the other mykl ass don’t have any say in tor
Opinions are irrelevant
twin bloom
Both you and the other mykl ass don’t have any say in tor
Toronto are so bad
Its funny
earnest leaf
Muze can play winston/orisa well with a decent ball
twin bloom
They have a glads tier budget
twilit oriole
Opinion is not counted
earnest leaf
Sado can cover rein/winston/orisa pretty well
twin bloom
And sign shit mid rosters
earnest leaf
they spent all their budget on twilight rip
twin bloom
Their overpaying muze
twilit oriole
Bro you need a brain transplant I’ve never met a person stupider than Pokemanpat
lost thicket
god damn Sojourn 
twilit oriole
Well now I have
twilit oriole
Toronto will be 8th in NA
4th
twin bloom
Disagree
twilit oriole
It doesn’t matter your delusional
earnest leaf
I will make a bet
lost thicket
god himself would need to be playing though
earnest leaf
If Toronto finishes the season at or above 4th place in NA
I will buy a muze jersey
twin bloom
False MT>moose MT
earnest leaf
straight up
twilit oriole
Titans bettor in every position but support
Your such a dumbass it’s unreal
Go suck some other teams off
twin bloom
Your such a dumbass it’s unreal
You don't understand ow at a high level
lost thicket
both of you people need to shut the fuck up, both of your opinion is assssss
twin bloom
It is so sad
twilit oriole
You don't understand ow at a high level
Your saying titans>tor, rethink life
twin bloom
That chorong has to play with finale
twilit oriole
I can pay for surgery if you want
twilit oriole
MUZE although heesu ch0r0ng twilight are better than almost all of NA besides a few
twin bloom
MUZE although heesu ch0r0ng twilight are better than almost all of NA besides a ...
It isn't
twilit oriole
This team wipes titans
twin bloom
M*ze is a bottom 1
twilit oriole
You don’t have a place to talk
twilit oriole
Everyone in the world can have an opinion but you
You need to be shut off from socializing
twilit oriole
You need to be put into a mental asylum where you keep telling yourself your own stuff
Your takes are so bad
It’s unreal
twin bloom
Toronto are so bad
twilit oriole
I really am astonished
twin bloom
You don't underatand
twilit oriole
You don’t really
twilit oriole
In your dreams
twilit oriole
Someone send this to r/OW
twin bloom
Its funny how
Defiant will get tracer gapped
Tank gapp3d
Support gapp3d
Hs gapped
And flex dps gapped
By ATL
Really funny
lost thicket
both of you are insane and delusional
twin bloom
I leak your IP as a bet
I live in a private island
lost thicket
defiant will get rolled by atl and toronto will be better then titans most likely
twin bloom
With many important relevant people
lost thicket
mental illness
hot onyx
defiant will get rolled by atl and toronto will be better then titans most likel...
Depends wether they run Finale or Although
lost thicket
Depends wether they run Finale or Although
either way they will not beat Atlanta unless Heesu and Twilight become god
worn falcon
not investing in Defiant smh
next mesa
Honestly muze isn't much worse than gator
Hawk>hotba doe
I just don't rate gator that highly
worn falcon
stacked
if they didnt gave Aspire
Muze is a sidegrade to Sado
Tier S ana player
Pogba
Heesu carrying
not sure about Finale and Although
worn falcon
the gap isnt big as like ...comparing him with Smurf, Fearless or Fate.
between sado and muze i would say is small, practically a sidegrade.
next mesa
Ehhhhh
frosty patrol
the gap isnt big as like ...comparing him with Smurf, Fearless or Fate.
mentioning smurf but not ga9a?
- fearless fate better than the competition
- ga9a is even with smurf
deep sedge
Do y’all like the Overwatch commentators?
frosty patrol
smurf is worse than fate substantially on ball, about even on orisa, and marginally better on monkey
frosty patrol
who was the second best monkey s4
Mag?
When Justice were good the mag monkey was a big reason why
especially early
(when justice were bad, it was the mag ball)
assassinmelon
earnest leaf
Smurf monkey top 2
frosty patrol
Smurf monkey top 2
mag better
frosty patrol
ga9a smurf fate mag close
cunning patrol
Smurf wishes he was as good as muze and that’s facts
earnest leaf
Fearless/Smurf/Mag/Ga9a/Fate is how I would put winston top 5
lost thicket
Good players: Twilight, CH0R0NG, Heesu,
Ok players: MuZe, ALTHOUGH, Finale,
Bad: HOTBA
frosty patrol
fearless mag smurf ga9a fate is mine
frosty patrol
Good players: Twilight, CH0R0NG, Heesu,
Ok players: MuZe, ALTHOUGH, Finale,
B...
swap hotba and finale
finale is bad
lost thicket
stilll gets rolled ez by atlanta
cunning patrol
Ga9a top 5 monkay is an incorrect take
lost thicket
swap hotba and finale
I don't think finale is bad, but hotba is still shit
frosty patrol
he's a mid ball and shit everything else
don't think he breaks into the top balls in the league
at all
cunning patrol
Yeah all 2 of them
Owl players suck at ball
He makes my top 5
Actually that’s not true
lost thicket
Nero and Speddily clear of ALTHOUGH and Finale, Kai > Heesu, Venom probably better then them aswell, Ojee > CH0R0NG thought might be close Twilight clears > UltraViolet, Gator better then MuZe and Hawk shits on HOTBA
frosty patrol
when itsal striker all tracer finishes 3rd owl?
frosty patrol
Nero and Speddily clear of ALTHOUGH and Finale, Kai > Heesu, Venom probably bett...
ch0r0ng > ojee, twilight vs uv is close actually
gator muze is also close
cunning patrol
Atlanta are better than Toronto
frosty patrol
hawk > hotba
lost thicket
ch0r0ng > ojee, twilight vs uv is close actually
wrong, like usual
frosty patrol
ch0r0ng is a fucking nutcase
lost thicket
usual
cunning patrol
He’s right chorong is better than ojee
cunning patrol
U have it right
cunning patrol
Usual is the right word
lost thicket
oh god
god fucking damn it
I know it's correct
but it looks WRONG
it looks too accurate to how it sounds
english is meant to be fucking stupid, and have a weird letter so it trips you up
it's tooooo fucking normal, toooo fucking right
cunning patrol
Ok back to the topic at hand
Atlanta better than Toronto
At all positions
Except backline
In my personal opinion
lost thicket
ms might be close but fs not really, I'd take Ojee over CH0R0NG but eh
cunning patrol
They also have more depth in their damage per second line
frosty patrol
toronto is better on ms and that's a fact and fs is kind of tough
cunning patrol
Godr0ng owns every ms ever except leejaegoat
lost thicket
I could see CH0R0NG being better
frosty patrol
ch0r0ng is a god of the main support role
lost thicket
but Ojee safer bet
frosty patrol
ojee is not top 5
frosty patrol
but Ojee safer bet
"an NA contenders MS is the safer bet than someone who dominated KR contenders"
western bias
at peak
lost thicket
YESSIR
but seriously
Ojee/UV seems like a safer choice then CH0RONG/Twilight imo, since Ojee also plays bap and all the MS
cunning patrol
So does chorong
frosty patrol
so does chorong
lost thicket
so does chorong
frosty patrol
you need to watch chorong dullahan
cunning patrol
Not enough people have western bias nowadays
frosty patrol
you're not enlightened
lost thicket
you need to watch chorong dullahan
send me more vods of him then
cunning patrol
All I’ll say 🤦
frosty patrol
stop thinking NA contenders competition and KR contenders competition are the same
ch0r0ng was great with his MS competition being vindaim chiyo sanguinar etc
whereas ojee's competition was fucking fixa
lost thicket
CrustyJr you're opinion is awful and irrelevant
next mesa
smurf is worse than fate substantially on ball, about even on orisa, and margina...
Substantially better on monkey*
next mesa
Also chorong is better than ojee but only by a small margin
frosty patrol
vindaim fastro ljg yveltal chorong all better than ojee
lost thicket
smurf is worse than fate substantially on ball, about even on orisa, and margina...
worse ball, better orisa and monke
frosty patrol
and uv vs twilight is actually pretty close
cunning patrol
vindaim fastro ljg yveltal chorong all better than ojee
Vindaim 🤦🤦🤦🤦
lost thicket
vindaim fastro ljg yveltal chorong all better than ojee
Fastro
is
EU(?)
Fastro means FunnyAstro right
?????
frosty patrol
"they're EU so they're worse than ojee"
cunning patrol
This guy said Vindaim but not Chiyo don’t let him get away with that 🤣🤣
cunning patrol
Fastro means FunnyAstro right
Yes
frosty patrol
ok fine chiyo
lost thicket
"they're EU so they're worse than ojee"
No but you're putting Fastro with Asian MS like
cunning patrol
#ojeeontop
frosty patrol
No but you're putting Fastro with Asian MS like
I'm listing better owl main supports than ojee?
lost thicket
vindaim fastro ljg yveltal chorong all better than ojee
Vindaim, LFG, Yveltal, CH0R0NG are all Asia
and then
frosty patrol
uv is the banger of the atlanta backline
lost thicket
Fastro is just there
frosty patrol
ojee is like 5th
cunning patrol
Uv good player
frosty patrol
but still great
cunning patrol
In the middle of my a tier 👍✅
frosty patrol
A tier backline is what Atlanta has
cunning patrol
A tier backline is what Atlanta has
It is high A tier
frosty patrol
yes
cunning patrol
Barely worse than greats of the game
Like shuseph skewed fastro
Izayaki leejaegone
Twilight and da r0ng
frosty patrol
worse than shd glads and maybe fuel cdh defiant
cunning patrol
Possibly minki park and Finn
lost thicket
where do y'all think TRD and ATL will be overall
frosty patrol
toronto and atlanta are both in the running for 2nd NA but more likely 3-6
frosty patrol
I have them 3rd
frosty patrol
behind the los angeles gladiators, but glads have the worst player in the league
so idfk
worn falcon
Good players: Twilight, CH0R0NG, Heesu,
Ok players: MuZe, ALTHOUGH, Finale,
B...
Don't diss my boy Pogba
cunning patrol
Fuck all of them
Fr 🤦
lost thicket
Don't diss my boy Pogba
SHITBA
cunning patrol
Who is producing this vct game and why does it suck!
lost thicket
toronto and atlanta are both in the running for 2nd NA but more likely 3-6
NA ATL 3rd or 2nd, and TRD probably 5th-7th
imo
worn falcon
Toronto about to steal Ratlanta spot
devout path
Who is producing this vct game and why does it suck!
Me I am
frosty patrol
not 7th, some random team will shit the bed more than toronto
cunning patrol
Shut up Atlanta hater
frosty patrol
no I'm just too enlightened to vigilante
the undisputed carry of the washington justice
frosty patrol
not FS, HS, or MT
Mag >= Muze
Kalios >= Hotba
Decay > Heesu
Assassin who fucking knows versus although finale
ch0r0ng >>>> opener
vigilante > twilight
worn falcon
the only upgrade would be mag, happy
cunning patrol
not FS, HS, or MT
Wrong wrong wrong
cunning patrol
Mag >= Muze
Kalios >= Hotba
Decay > Heesu
Assassin who fucking knows versus alth...
How
Ok ot
I did not consider
cunning patrol
Vigilante isn’t better than twilight
Vig is a good playa
With potential
But he is not better than a great
Like twilight
frosty patrol
vigilante is better than twilight overwatch off ana
not saying twilight is bad off ana
frosty patrol
if his ana was as good as his other heroes only twilight would still be a top 10 fs
twin bloom
Mid tankline
twin bloom
In contendor
frosty patrol
vigilante
frosty patrol
talon's tanks got carried by the heesang chorong vigilante core to almost beating o2
lost thicket
Outlaws should sponsor Raufeon
gusty rampart
Semi-Accurate reporter
https://twitter.com/FridaysBrig528/status/1514362620924600334?t=scymPEDBl_OfguyOI2wnQA&s=19
If Chengdu drops Leave that'll be funny as fuck
earnest leaf
Wonder where leave would go to if he was dropped
since unironically every team would benefit having him
I would assume another chinese team
twin bloom
Semi-Accurate reporter
https://twitter.com/FridaysBrig528/status/151436262092460...
Bro who is that nobody
gusty rampart
Wonder where leave would go to if he was dropped
Charge or Valiant imo
earnest leaf
yea
gusty rampart
Maybe Shanghai will for the ultimate power move
earnest leaf
If shanghai got leave I would bet $1000 they win the season
gusty rampart
If they did he'd prolly be benched
earnest leaf
leave would perma start over fleta
also looking at that guy's acc he's pretty wishy washy
Predicted some blatant things and has multiple predictions that were wrong or nothing on them still
twin bloom
Semi-Accurate reporter
https://twitter.com/FridaysBrig528/status/151436262092460...
The only "leak" he got correct is speedily to reign and he leaked that when NA players and reign social media were hinting at him
Lol
And anyone with a few braincells knew apr1ta would get promoted
gusty rampart
The only "leak" he got correct is speedily to reign and he leaked that when NA ...
The other leaks he's made haven't been fulfilled yet but seem believable
lost thicket
The only "leak" he got correct is speedily to reign and he leaked that when NA ...
and Aprita
earnest leaf
people were saying aprita to chengdu for a year
lost thicket
twin bloom
and Aprita
"And anyone with a few braincells knew apr1ta would get promoted"
lost thicket
Moth one is believable, Gargoyle to NYXL not so much, Ezhan is a miss
earnest leaf
everything has pointed to shock not signing moth still
lost thicket
TTuba, Jerry and Stand1 struggling makes sense I guess
earnest leaf
Unless they randomly grab him in a few weeks right before owl
lost thicket
but you can legit just say insert not active on twitter kinda mid APAC player isn't that good
actually
earnest leaf
Yea not hard to guess players who struggled in owl weren't doing well in trials vs better players
twin bloom
Dudes guessing lol
But he may have some sources
By crawling discord servers
And searching the depths of the earth
For a leak
lost thicket
Unless they randomly grab him in a few weeks right before owl
super out moth in copium
worn falcon
Wonder where leave would go to if he was dropped
gotta be apac team, unless they have speedrun visa for na
twin bloom
Way to gain leaks
Agree
tropic herald
yah it seems like they may have a source but this is like the only thing they have said that could prove their trustworthiness
lost thicket
Shanghai get Leave
tropic herald
all their other leaks have been like very safe guesses
worn falcon
but i wouldnt mind snatching MMonk for Philly
lost thicket
so Fleta sits next to WhoRU
worn falcon
and still champion
next mesa
Semi-Accurate reporter
https://twitter.com/FridaysBrig528/status/151436262092460...
Literally leave the most important drop tho??? How's that exaggerating so fuckin dumb
sullen berry
gusty rampart
Literally leave the most important drop tho??? How's that exaggerating so fuckin...
Originally 5 were potentially gonna be released
sullen berry
Fantasy OWL in style this year
willow tartan
time to roll all of u