esports-discussion

[balmy wolf]

Piggy on Sigma is unbeatable

[willow tartan]

have you considered: void

[twilit oriole]

Okay but what else? Even then I’d take other OTs over him

[next mesa]

josh is like

trying so hard to bait and get attention

its so hilarious

a little sad

but mostly hilarious

[frosty patrol]

void hanbin are the top 2 offtanks and it's not close

[vagrant jacinth]

🤮 takes

[vagrant jacinth]

Yeah lmao. I don't take non-regualars seriously, I just assume it's all bait

[balmy wolf]

Non-regulars 😂😂😂 holy shit that’s how sad you guys are

None of these are baits these are the facts. I don’t need attention from “regulars” lmfao embarrassing

[next mesa]

omg

you're still trying

[tropic herald]

i dont base it off roles, i base it off name

[next mesa]

oh my gosh that's so sad

😔

honestly feel a little bad

[frosty patrol]

based

[balmy wolf]

I feel bad for your personal life levy

[tropic herald]

i also have no idea who the pfp is but im assuming its some footballer so opinion rejected 😹

[frosty patrol]

levy has friends

[balmy wolf]

And the fact you jack off to Profit everyday

[next mesa]

josh dick is still trying 😭

you know i appreciate the effort though

[balmy wolf]

Let get me this straight… you have a shadow pfp and you’re talking trash about Thiago Silva 😂

[last nimbus]

you guys just petty "non-regulars" while the takes you guys make are equally as bad

[frosty patrol]

shadow is cool

smh

[next mesa]

mmmmm

[balmy wolf]

I appreciate that you think you’re actually cool despite thinking Profit is everything

[next mesa]

my takes are S tier

😔 ✊ unfortunately

[tropic herald]

sorry,, the shadow pfp is unironic

[frosty patrol]

Levy is in low A on my personal ED tier list

[balmy wolf]

Lol trying so hard to bait Levy

[next mesa]

master-baiter

telling someone about baiting

well

not really a master

honestly

quite shit at it

but some people dont learn 😠

[frosty patrol]

some girl on a team I used to coach insisted I call her the master-baiter since she would position weirdly to bait tracers onto her and then a brig and tracer would come out of hiding

and bam

female flex support

so good

[next mesa]

god tier strat

truly living up to the crustyjr name

[worn falcon]

Team Chaser is dead

no more chinese tendies

[next mesa]

wtf really

😔

[frosty patrol]

tarocookie jimmy kaneki to cc

[next mesa]

sheeesh

too bad nohill not there anymore

damn thats crazy tho

[worn falcon]

jjonak washed

[next mesa]

that dps line is pretty good

for a contenders

[frosty patrol]

not a real move just would be cool

[cloud latch]

not 4700 jjonak bad

[worn falcon]

myunb0ng > viol2t

[next mesa]

jjonak is so good

ive never been more impressed at another flex support mechanically watching his vods ima be honest

[frosty patrol]

imagine a team cc lineup of 800 xray jimmy tarocookie kaneki m1ka kyo

[next mesa]

thats kinda sexy

2 mts doe

[frosty patrol]

actually a better one would be like

800/xray and ameng + an offtank

chinese offtanks kind of disappeared

unless I'm forgetting someone

riven?

[next mesa]

nohill took the goat

sasin

yes riven is pretty good

also the one from bbg

i mean bilibili

i forgot the name

dva on kings row

i remember

[frosty patrol]

800 ameng riven jimmy tarocookie kaneki m1ka kyo?

don't remember their name

[next mesa]

kodomo

i remembered

[frosty patrol]

kodomo or riven?

I take kodomo

tbh

[hot onyx]

Boston too high

[balmy wolf]

Another baiting take. Wow you actually are the best baiter

[hot onyx]

I take neither and sign DAI

[next mesa]

mmmmm

your baits are getting a little low quality

not like jazzy, mykl, etc that have high quality baits sometimes

[hot onyx]

you should've seen me bait NTB into making him believe that I believe Kevster is a subpar flex dps

shit went on for weeks

I miss disliking that guy

but it's impossible to dislike a Clestyn fan

[worn falcon]

im trying to watch vct, but cant

at least the brits makes it fun

[forest token]

no co-stream 😔

[tropic herald]

drx are insame

[forest token]

wait really

huh

[balmy wolf]

Lets pretend I was baiting, and you are saying it’s really bad. Then isn’t you responding to it also pathetic?

[forest token]

highly highly doubt anyone would actually be willing to pick him up

let's say, hypothetically, for argument's sake

[balmy wolf]

NTB is a king. I didn’t see the debate but I bet he pummeled you

[tropic herald]

sentinels actively trialing him says otherwise 😍

[forest token]

are they actually

[tropic herald]

yah

they looking to drop zombs

[forest token]

do you have a link

that

sounds like cap

unless sinatraa heavily changes how he plays

shahz probably would have to switch things up as well

[tropic herald]

idk where specific tweet is but saw it today something about dropping zombs but sin gonna be flex player still so they swapping other people around idk

[forest token]

is that like

actually a leak

[tropic herald]

ofc sin isnt the only one they are trialing

[forest token]

or is it the twitter fanboy cope

[next mesa]

Hehe it's funny

Also

Yeah sen have been scrimming without zombs I think

[forest token]

like the "move shaz to coach and bring back sinatraa"

[tropic herald]

i saw enough tweets from accounts that werent all sin fanboys that i think its prob legit

[next mesa]

Shahz is playing

Might drop zombs

[forest token]

replacing zombs with sinatraa specifically would be questionable

unless sinatraa heavily reworks his playstyle/agent pool

[tropic herald]

they said if that was the replacement that roles would move

[forest token]

which is possible

[tropic herald]

ofc the only legit thing i think is that zombs getting dropped, sin getting picked up is a maybe

[forest token]

but generally teams don't like reworking roles like that, esp when you're still moving players away from their strengths

[next mesa]

He's been playing a lot of kayo

On stream

Maybe shahz goes to smokes

[forest token]

isn't zombs typically the astra/viper player

[next mesa]

He needs to adapt

[tropic herald]

but also sin saying what he said in his tweet today and not just a lft tweet is a lil sussy as well

not that i think he should be picked up doe

[forest token]

shaz might work for that

[forest token]

not really, concern #1 is about the PR, not finding trials

the question isn't if he can get on a team via skills but if a team will be willing to take the brand risk

[tropic herald]

if that tweet was for pr it wasnt a good one

he just lucky that his general fan base is weird

[forest token]

In that time, I have learned a lot about myself and grown as a person.

[next mesa]

I'm willing to bet plenty of teams would want sinatraa

[forest token]

PR tweet

[balmy wolf]

NTB is a king. I didn’t see the debate but I bet he pummeled you

[forest token]

will the sponsors though

[next mesa]

Yes

He was still on SEN

Sen didn't lose any sponsors

The main concern is cleohs Twitter being banned

[forest token]

he was demoted to content creation

wait what

[next mesa]

So there's really no one to

Say anything anymore

[tropic herald]

if you could remove his skill and put it onto a blank slate of a human people would pick him up

[forest token]

why was her twitter banned

[next mesa]

And we don't know what's going on with the court

[forest token]

easily, dude's swapped roles and games enough to show he'll be able to come back

[next mesa]

Called some susnatraa fanboys to kill themselves, don't blame her

[tropic herald]

iirc it wasnt directly related to the drama but i dont remember all the details

oh wait nevermind

[forest token]

sinatraa fanboys are smth else

[next mesa]

Some of them are just brain damaged

Imo like

We don't know what's going on in court

[tropic herald]

reading some of the replies are just mentally damaging

[next mesa]

Like what's happening

[forest token]

honestly the only group I could somewhat compare to the fujoshi/kpop fangirl crowd

[next mesa]

Always keep neutral stance until more facts

[forest token]

are there even any court proceedings

[tropic herald]

court got dropped iirc bc of numerous factors

[forest token]

figured

[next mesa]

We have no clue if cleoh dropped the case or anything

She said she didnt

[worn falcon]

Nothing wrong with kpop

[next mesa]

But

Then she got banned

[tropic herald]

and ofc to sin fanboys that means hes 100% innocent

[forest token]

much harder to push a criminal case

[next mesa]

He's not innocent

But he's also not guilty as far as I'm concerned it's up to the teams

[forest token]

the fandom on the other hand...

[tropic herald]

like that mental gymnastics of some of them are legit concerning

[next mesa]

Like if he turns out to be guilty obviously gg career dead team rep dead

[forest token]

lmfao the fucking dafran response to riot saying he refused to cooperate with the investigation

actually mentally deficient

[tropic herald]

idr who said the tweet but something like, yeah innocent until guilty but you shouldnt treat them as innocent w allegations like this like idk man

[forest token]

I mean you can just

wait to make a judgement

lol

[worn falcon]

People are easy to bait too

[next mesa]

Agreed

[forest token]

I don't think riot has the grounds to subpoena the full recordings and shit so I don't think the investigation's going any further

[worn falcon]

And then having everyone with their pitchforks up

[tropic herald]

anyways drx domming

[forest token]

only icebox been played so far right?

[tropic herald]

yeah, but it was nips pick and not close

and just watching their play round by round is kinda insane

[forest token]

I don't know how to tell when a team has prepped a specific matchup

I saw a lot of... questionable moments from DRX

so I'm still worried about having to vs. the strong EMEA teams

[tropic herald]

i think drx prepped this bc they r trying to force maps that jonn gonna play reyna on

[forest token]

actually I say that but fnatic got trolled

[tropic herald]

fnatic just unlucky

[forest token]

yeah the reyna pick is... something

[tropic herald]

like cant control the situation

[forest token]

yeah

[tropic herald]

2 subs gg go next

[forest token]

sad we don't get to see them in form

wouldn't be surprised if they still win against zeta division but man

[balmy wolf]

How did Dreamkazper get banned from existence from the community but Sinaatra is being allowed back 😭

[tropic herald]

val community is not the greatest atm

ow community is pretty decent at this stuff

[forest token]

DK got busted for pedo shit, sinatraa was accused of assaulting his of-age gf

both bad but pedo shit tends to elicit stronger reactions

anyway this is still assuming an org will want to pick him up

[tropic herald]

well back to drx bc i really wanna avoid sin stuff but yeah drx just got some insane plays they set up

[balmy wolf]

Dreamkazper texted a girl what 2 or 3 years younger than him?

[forest token]

I forget the details

[balmy wolf]

And Sinaatra basically raped his girlfriend and mentally abused her

[forest token]

5 year age difference

16 vs. 21

also iirc DK admitted to it

sinatraa refused to cooperate with the investigation but maintained that the audio clips were out of context

[worn falcon]

anyways, I'm trying to watch vct, still have no idea what is going on

So many bombs

[forest token]

well right now they are still loading up the map

[balmy wolf]

So in 1 year she would’ve been legal and also… that girl wasn’t innocent straight up led him on 😂

[forest token]

two years in the US

what

a

[tropic herald]

r u eu

[forest token]

are you saying

[worn falcon]

🎣

[balmy wolf]

Both are bad don’t get me wrong

[forest token]

y'know what

it's gotta be bait

ur right cuyo

[balmy wolf]

Technically in Texas 17

[tropic herald]

ok talk about vct ignore the bait

[worn falcon]

Anyways, I'm gonna miss the Brits in ow

They made the boring matches fun

And if we have another toilet bowl

[forest token]

co-streams > casting

the league's gotten much better

so hopefully that's not going to happen as much

only on sideshow co-streams will you have a 30 second ligma balls setup

[balmy wolf]

I’m not baiting I’m just saying how did Dreamkazper never comeback but Sinaatra did. Neither should be allowed back

[worn falcon]

We getting an entire month of pure cesspool

Because new maps/hero

And abilities

[tropic herald]

generally yeah, co streams r nice for people who know whats going on to some degree bc they can shittalk more directly

[balmy wolf]

Also how good was Sinaatra at Valorant

[tropic herald]

thats why i like avast co streams is that they can just be a whole lot more blunt

[forest token]

imo they're better in general since the hosts can ignore what's happening to go explain what happened in a round

[worn falcon]

Avast co-stream>

[forest token]

so the interesting things can get highlighted more

[tropic herald]

and its not like the main stream casters r bad or anything its just i like to listen to co stream casting style better

[forest token]

same

[tropic herald]

i also think owl should pull a vct for co streams

they have some level of a contract for it but whatever it is seems to be good

[wide minnow]

there is no proper evidence that sinatraa did all that so its all messed up story

[worn falcon]

I feel those strict rules for owl made it boring, but at least since Mr X is up here with Hex, they have some leniency for cheesy stuff

[forest token]

owl allows co-streams but you can't stream owl or cdl on any other platform than youtube

and any twitch partners can't stream on youtube

that's why sideshow will do platchat couch streams on YT but still streams his own co-streams on twitch

[wide minnow]

sinaatra is not interested in owl hes trying for valorant

[forest token]

this is true

[forest token]

he also refused to provide the full recordings to put the given evidence in context like he said he would

so while it's not provable that he's guilty, I really would not like to be stuck defending the guy

[wide minnow]

https://twitter.com/dafran/status/1394377260828930052

Farmer Dafran (@dafran)

It seems I was right and @Sinatraa was not found guilty of Sexual assault. He will be able to return to pro play soon. Another win for me boys

I called Ellie was a man in Overwatch
I called Cle0h is a crazy egirl

2-0

https://t.co/LtrBdI5Or4

Likes

2263

Retweets

126

Twitter · May 17, 2021, 7:40 PM

[forest token]

oh god

probably the dumbest thing dafran's ever tweeted

fucking christ

[wide minnow]

hahahah xd

[worn falcon]

I have evidence of the recordings
Oops seems I didn't had evidence

[forest token]

that was off the back of sinatraa refusing to cooperate with riot's investigation

[worn falcon]

The legal backpedaling

Anyways

[forest token]

since they couldn't prove his guilt or innocence they just slapped him with a temp ban and moved on

[wide minnow]

sometimes i feel like that girl just played with him and ruined his career

[worn falcon]

So vct

[forest token]

and then dafran pulls up with that fucking tweet

[wide minnow]

hahahah xd

dafran legend lmao

[forest token]

there are definitely cases of that happening, but again sinatraa said he'd provide the full recordings and then didn't

[hot onyx]

oh dear

[forest token]

also boaster is the supertf of valorant

just with less tifa cosplay

[wide minnow]

i think sinaatra doesnt like to do that cuz he thinks about the girl career

girl life matters u know

[forest token]

does everyone in this channel just bait 24/7

[wide minnow]

[balmy wolf]

The moment Sinaatra refused to cooperate

[tropic herald]

boaster big man

[balmy wolf]

He was guilty

Sinaatra has a really good fucking Lawyer

[worn falcon]

Seems you're new to Suraj, welcome

[wide minnow]

yea

[balmy wolf]

OJ Simpson wasn’t found guilty so he must’ve not murdered his wife

[wide minnow]

did he win ?

[forest token]

I have indeed not been in this channel much

[wide minnow]

u like this channel?

[tropic herald]

heres what u need to know about suraj: dafran fan

[forest token]

my bio teacher went on a full rant about how incompetent the prosecution was on that case lmfao

dafan

[wide minnow]

guys do u remember that faze tfue case

[forest token]

oh wait is he actually

[wide minnow]

lmaooo

tfue betrayed faze

now hes rocking and chilling

[balmy wolf]

MJ didn’t molest kids either

Like ffs Dafran 😂 he’s just an idiot but still like the guy

[wide minnow]

https://twitter.com/Tfue/status/1512858789954871307

Tfue (@Tfue)

IRL BOAT STREAMS RESUME https://t.co/9Gyu6Nw4bf

Likes

993

Twitter · Apr 9, 2022, 6:23 PM

[twin bloom]

IDK why people hate dafran just as much as sinatraa

[plush grail]

FUCK DAFRAN

[twin bloom]

Sinatraa obviously way worse

Dafran just had stupid takes

[wide minnow]

dafran is funny trolls and hes amazing human

i dont like sinaatra

[forest token]

because dafran supporting sinatraa through all the controversy

[plush grail]

ur trolling

[wide minnow]

sinaatra isnt funny

[forest token]

seeing it as enabling him

[balmy wolf]

Exactly

Dafran just somehow thinks Sinaatra is innocent

That’s just being stupid

And a delusional friend

[forest token]

when you have a sizeable supporter base proclaiming his innocence has impact

can vct hurry up I wanna catch the start of this game before I gotta go to lab

[tropic herald]

stax desk broke ?

[balmy wolf]

I haven’t kept up with the Sinatra drama but is it clear he was guilty and just didn’t get convicted or did it just stop after the accusations?

[forest token]

nothing was ever confirmed but he doesn't have a lot to defend himself with

[tropic herald]

legally speaking nothing happened, but just looking at what was laid out for us its hard to say he was innocent

[worn falcon]

https://t.co/zCwC1bxZGX

chatplat

[balmy wolf]

glads gonna flop

[oblique wren]

Did it go to court?

[forest token]

according to random source cle0h dropped the investigation due to the impact it was having on her mental health

https://www.ginx.tv/en/valorant/sinatraa-police-investigation-is-over-his-former-girlfriend-cle0h-reveals

[cedar oasis]

smh

sans and ian suck

[balmy wolf]

^

[cedar oasis]

i was hard carrying them

[balmy wolf]

nice

[cedar oasis]

go away mystary

you smell

[balmy wolf]

sorry

[last nimbus]

have there been any scrim leaks this offseason

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/FLMayhem/status/1513946707175768070

Florida Mayhem (@FLMayhem)

What if we had another fun announcement coming for you guys this week? 👀

Twitter · Apr 12, 2022, 6:26 PM

[next mesa]

Seoul is pounding dragons in scrims

Because lip is high on cocaine

[last nimbus]

fair

[balmy wolf]

lip has insane tracking

proper and lip look like theyre aimbotting

[worn falcon]

moth to mayhem

[plush grail]

u suck uvalo

[cedar oasis]

nope

[plush grail]

ur ass

[cunning patrol]

Disagree I don’t bait

Just give my honest input

[violet turret]

I vouch

[cedar oasis]

ur ass ian

[plush grail]

calling me and sans bad

while u were legit running it down mid

[cedar oasis]

no

[plush grail]

and insulting everyone

[cedar oasis]

i diffed their rein

[plush grail]

u did not

u were so bad the enemy rein stopped bothering with u

[vagrant jacinth]

Avast promoted to Head coach. We've finally got a team run by platchat

[cedar oasis]

nope ian

i beat him so bad

i did more damage then u did

you were dps

[plush grail]

u broke sans

[cedar oasis]

haha yea

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/getreal-verypog-gif-23966319

[frosty patrol]

blg fans sobbing

[cunning patrol]

Thanks

[cedar oasis]

ian u suck

i flank as rien and you type in team chat "rien behind you"

[cunning patrol]

@devout path #marvedisthebestever

[devout path]

so true

[tropic herald]

no

[cunning patrol]

hate more

[plush grail]

Shut up uvalo

Ur damn lucky u live in the UK

Or else me and sans would pull up

[cedar oasis]

???

2 midgets

[next mesa]

💀 💀

[plush grail]

Nah

Me and sans would beat your ass

[hot onyx]

Name your height

[plush grail]

Nah don't even bother asking

He's gonna claim he's like 6'9

[devout path]

na is saved

[willow drum]

so true

[next mesa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgG6pEyBfAs

some pati juice

he is now t500 looking good 😆

[balmy wolf]

That donkey teeth mfer is going to sit the bench

[twin bloom]

He is bettor than ansansniper

[balmy wolf]

If ans is playing like last year

Hopefully, ans will be back to his peak

[earnest leaf]

This narrative around ans is so fucking annoying

No shit a player who comes back into the league with none of their heroes being meta won't look as good

Especially when the team he re-joins also has internal issues

He'll do plenty fine on glads

[noble nexus]

hitscan was pretty shit for the part of the season that he played in

[earnest leaf]

It was basically tracer/fdps for 90% of last year

[next mesa]

all I know is my man is S tier if widow is touched

😎 😎

[noble nexus]

and ashe

and mccree

[earnest leaf]

I remember vs chengdu he went widow and shit on them so hard they had to immediatly change how they played and hard focus ans

[next mesa]

yeah but after he didnt get a ton of value

unfortunate really

[vagrant jacinth]

OWLEL 54

Almost forgot

[next mesa]

@hot onyx agree?

Curious

Screenshot won't send

[north relic]

jjonak to fusion doesnt cover their huge weakness in hitscan

[balmy wolf]

Muze is the most underrated MT

[twin bloom]

He is the most overrated

[balmy wolf]

He’s S tier

[twin bloom]

Part of da little 3 on toronto

Muze hotba finale

[balmy wolf]

Muze will start full time

[next mesa]

Master baiter meets small noob baiter

[hoary crystal]

Hey guys

[north relic]

hey

[cunning patrol]

ans wishes he was s tier on ashe

greats like

lip

shy

fits

mn3

and more beat him out

leave would own him too in all honesty

[north relic]

Ans A at Ashe

4 words that start with A

[cunning patrol]

possibly

potentially

[earnest leaf]

Ans ashe has always been really good

idk why people rate it lower

although I will say about ashe, kilo kinda fucks on her

and mer1t

[cunning patrol]

damn shock fans dont shut up about kilo

this is why dallas fuel will rule na

[earnest leaf]

just been watching his streams and his mechanics on ashe are nasty

[cunning patrol]

unfortunately he cannot compare to other greats coming out of contenders on ashe

like emen3

[sullen berry]

Video spoiler ||he plays overwatch||

Sorry this is the quality comments you're going to get until I finish moving

[earnest leaf]

I should try to catch some mn3 streams

but he always streams at shit hours

[sullen berry]

Aka superior KST

[cunning patrol]

just go on his vods

or on yt he has some vods posted

[next mesa]

mn3>>mer1t>kilo

kr contenders hitscan ranking

not counting proper*

[cunning patrol]

If u count proper on pure hs he’s only above mer1t

[earnest leaf]

also from his streams

kilo tracer was surprisingly decent

He didn't look derpy like ans tracer

[next mesa]

agreed agreed

[cunning patrol]

Good levy take

Fairly common nowadays

[balmy wolf]

proper hard diffs merit

[next mesa]

Not by a lot

[cunning patrol]

Proper dicked him on hard hs he does

[bold pelican]

[twilit oriole]

That’s what I’m sayin

[tropic herald]

on god

[twin bloom]

Kilo is a good playah

Bettor than happy

Worse than kai

Tho

[cunning patrol]

happy sucks

[north relic]

Happy B

[twin bloom]

He doesn't

[twin bloom]

He is A

Happy, aspire, kilo,

The big

3 hs

In NA

That are worse than kai

[north relic]

Yes

Flora better than kai

[twin bloom]

No he isn't

Analysts and pro's

Agree with me

[north relic]

I’m both so my opinion counts double

[earnest leaf]

Kai very good

top tier hitscan

[north relic]

hot take!!!

[twin bloom]

Kai is s tier dps playah

In overleague watch

Alongside proper lip kevster leave

[north relic]

Pelican?

[twin bloom]

Him as well

[cunning patrol]

shut up

hes b

for bad

[twin bloom]

Happy had 42 offers

In s4

For a reason

[cunning patrol]

in s4

[north relic]

unfortunately there are only 29 teams

[cunning patrol]

he was off of

a good szn

being boosted by eileen and cr0ng

and shuseph

[twin bloom]

He wasn't boosted

[cunning patrol]

he was

[north relic]

Where you guys rate glister

[twin bloom]

C tier

But due to bias

I put him D

Alongside ansan

Shax

All the overrated playahs

[cloud latch]

B

[north relic]

Overrated doesn’t mean you are blase tier

[cunning patrol]

yeah blase is f

[north relic]

I don’t use f tiers tbh

[cunning patrol]

you are limiting your tierlists

if you do not

[north relic]

I either put f tier players at s+ or lowest D

[twin bloom]

Blase on projectile is C tier imo. He just had to play with hybrid kellex ripa jecksay, rapel, muma, fusions, colurhex, rck and etc

In his career

But by the end of s4

He was probaly f

But he was C in s2 and s3 IMHO

[earnest leaf]

Happy got cucked similar to ans

His best heroes weren't meta

[cloud latch]

was blase the guy that played doom on outlaws?

[earnest leaf]

and outlaws forced him on tracer

[twin bloom]

Happy carried Houston

Stage 1

And his tracer sombra was not that bad

Imho

[earnest leaf]

Issue was they were just mid af

[twin bloom]

If houston just stayed a rush team

[earnest leaf]

But they forced dive

for some reason

[twin bloom]

Putting Jjangu and joobi on one plays

[cunning patrol]

houston

had da potential

to be lower tier version

of reign

[twin bloom]

Agree

But funkyjunky

Kept forcing his team to play high skill comps

[cunning patrol]

agree

imo

da buck overrated

not bad coach

but not on da same level as greats like

moon

rush

nohill

et cetera

[twin bloom]

If they one played rush

They make playoffs

IMHO

[cunning patrol]

agree

[twin bloom]

If you think about hou could have been better than reign(Mid dive and top tier rush) reign dive was very tragic early on

[tawdry hamlet]

Dps tier list from a server I'm in kekw

Fits heesu Carpe and mn3 worse than Glister and Sparkr apparently

[next mesa]

Fits mn3 b tier

I've seen enough

[balmy wolf]

What is up with everyone putting Choisewan in such a fucked up tier

In no world is Whoru better than Choisehwan

[cunning patrol]

Choisehwan is amazing and disturbingly underrated

He is my goat

[limpid estuary]

Is the map pool pinned somewhere, or in a command?

For the first stage of OW2

[tawdry hamlet]

Charge dps line full of solid talent atm which is exciting

[worn falcon]

A bit late, but no. This is the map pool

[limpid estuary]

Thanks

[hot onyx]

In what plausible alternate universe is Decay S9mm Happy Profit and Mer1t higher than MN3 Fits and Carpe?

[wide minnow]

https://mobile.twitter.com/dafran/status/1514106048885501958

Farmer Dafran (@dafran)

THE @PlayOverwatch 2 BETA IS SO CLOSE!!!! 13 DAYS!!!! AND @overwatchleague IN 22 DAYS!!!!!!!!! YEEEES DUUUUDE

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Twitter · Apr 13, 2022, 4:59 AM

LEGEND TALKS

[ebon aurora]

Presumably you can't draw on push so that means there is only 1 possible draw per series now right?

in the same way you (basically) can't draw on escort

except in incredibly rare circumstances

[plush grail]

Paris eternal

[willow tartan]

You can, just like how you can draw on payload maps

Map is divided into different checkpoints with different spawns

So it's like hybrid where you can get stalled out in one

Presumably if you overtime full cap it's one minute timebank

[north relic]

Owlel

[hot onyx]

||Nice 33/33/33 nerd|| OWLEL

[hot onyx]

Backbone above ChoiSehWan Zest and Hydron

I cannot look at anymore because I’ll earn brain damage

[north relic]

Edison guriyo both a

This guy is a Dallas fan surely

[hot onyx]

Either this chump is from the future or they have never watched an OWL match in their lives

[north relic]

Also fits mn3 B

[hot onyx]

Fits MN3 are two tiers below S9mm

[north relic]

S9mm S is a crime

[balmy wolf]

maybe guy just likes na a ton

[north relic]

Wait sparkr A also

This guy has sparkr above fit mn3

[hot onyx]

Stalk3r above Fits MN3

St3lker is the third best kr contenders dps according to this guy

Below greats like Proper and Mer1t ofc

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1514192853337100291?s=19

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

Sources: Key Chengdu Hunters players exploring options ahead of OWL Season 5

Read more @Dexerto

https://t.co/W0pDemDFAd

Twitter · Apr 13, 2022, 10:44 AM

[north relic]

Leave and the four supports

[raw ermine]

^people mentioned in article who MIGHT leave (speaking of leave):
-Leave
-Creed (coach)
-Yveltal
-Faraway1987
-Nisha
-Mmonk

[north relic]

Chengdu should be fine if they just keep 1 fs 1 ms

Aprita jimnu doesn’t sound that good at all though

[plush grail]

Wtf

Is Chengdu gonna disband?

[north relic]

no?

where can leave go to

leave to spark might make spark #2 apac

(assuming they don’t engage in their annual bed shitting)

[plush grail]

I shit my bed like once a month

[north relic]

We know you miss the toilet by at least two meters

[balmy wolf]

if spark sign creed mmonk and leave they will be cool team

[plush grail]

It's just based

Shit my bed, piss in the sink

[devout path]

Let’s go na

Optic vs xerxia

Let’s go na

[hot onyx]

Spark already has 4 dps

[north relic]

let’s make it five

what teams can leave realistically join

[hot onyx]

Titans

If Hunters can keep Leave MMonk and one ms they should be perfectly fine

[north relic]

Farway is good also

[next mesa]

MMONK

GET YOUR ASS TO SEOUL BABY

[hot onyx]

Farway is great

[next mesa]

COME JOIN YOUR DADDY JJONAK

[hot onyx]

Just not better than MMonk if we’re talking about one of them in the starting lineup

[hot onyx]

So hyped for Seoul to pop off in a triple fs meta

[north relic]

The meta will be double fs :copium:

[plush grail]

both of u shut up

paris will win

[hot onyx]

Paris has Vestola solo tank

[sullen berry]

Leave could be a free agent to Charge, Spark or Shanghai

[north relic]

Shanghai leave

[sullen berry]

[north relic]

sounds fair

[hot onyx]

Leave Lip Fleta

[plush grail]

uvalo rein >>> daan rein

[hot onyx]

Fair

[north relic]

I hope he goes to charge

[next mesa]

Leave is just better fleta doe lowkey

[sullen berry]

Sans genji > OW2 WhoRU Genji

[plush grail]

sans genji?

[sullen berry]

I'm never taking the copium that they sign better players than Cr0ng during the season

[plush grail]

sans only plays tracer and sombra

[hot onyx]

My genji is legendary when it is viable

[north relic]

My genji is legendary and he is not viable

[sullen berry]

Exactly, neither players are viable right now

[plush grail]

ur one of the shittest players i have ever played with

[sullen berry]

We are expected to to see tracer right out the bat

[north relic]

ian js a doom one trick

[hot onyx]

“One of our dps is slacking and it’s not Mega”

[plush grail]

''i hate the fact that...''

[hot onyx]

Out of context #43

[north relic]

“You guys are”

[sullen berry]

Who they pair her up with and shows up during Kickoff tournament is going to be the biggest meta shaper

[plush grail]

''listen uvalo, i know you're...''

[sullen berry]

You guys seem real nice to play with

One i have my desk set I will slam you on high ping with my jacked up internet connection

[hot onyx]

“Monkey is one, but not...”

[plush grail]

its fun until uvalo joins

[sullen berry]

(still on 130 ping)

[plush grail]

when me and sans duo its fun and we have nice conversations

[sullen berry]

"Okay he's actually one guys, what the fuck"

[plush grail]

when uvalo joins we all go fucking gremlin mode

[north relic]

I meant Winston not monkey

[sullen berry]

I'm sure it doesn't hurt to six stack with the boys in the US 🇺🇸 , UK 🇬🇧 , New Zealand 🇳🇿 and the Nether 🇳🇱

[north relic]

I played on 110

Actually not bad

[sullen berry]

Just need someone from China or Japan to complete the national congress

[plush grail]

isn't memeicus from asia

where exactly is he from

[hot onyx]

Shanghai

[sullen berry]

OW is a good game when it comes to connecting everywhere. That's why there's still players on console

[plush grail]

no you fucking dumbass like where he lives

not his favorite team

[sullen berry]

God bless Lily on consolenping

[plush grail]

apes together strong

[sullen berry]

[north relic]

He probably comes from some weird Asian country like kanghaskan

[plush grail]

thats a pokemon you fucking dumbass

[north relic]

no it’s a country

[plush grail]

seek therapy

[north relic]

They made the country into a pokemon?

neat

[willow tartan]

kazakstan

[plush grail]

is that were ur from

[willow tartan]

no

thats central asia

i am south east asia

[plush grail]

where u from

[north relic]

He’s from kangaskhan

[hot onyx]

£10 says Shanghai

[plush grail]

ill do a lot for 10

[willow tartan]

can i bet?

[hot onyx]

You can bet on slots or something

[willow tartan]

slots are boring

[plush grail]

ur underage

u cant bet

[hot onyx]

Insider information makes it unfair slightly

[north relic]

Memeicus has mentioned it before

I think during jackbox night

[willow tartan]

i mean

considering the fact that shanghai is not in south east asia

which ive said a bunch of times i am in the SEA region

[plush grail]

sans give me your addres

[hot onyx]

Not again

[north relic]

He lives in the ocean?

[plush grail]

do it pussy

[hot onyx]

Could be a bluff for those that didn’t study geography

[willow tartan]

that is not the first time someone said to me that

in this server

[north relic]

Cambodia

My guess

[plush grail]

i can pinpoint all of your locations

i have u all ttracked

[willow tartan]

i legit told you guys this

[north relic]

Leak my location

[plush grail]

indonesia

based

[north relic]

Damn I thought it was some lesser known Asian country like kangaskhan

[hot onyx]

My condolences

Hope you get better

[willow tartan]

doubtful

[plush grail]

i bet you guys dont know my full nationality

[balmy wolf]

North Korean

[north relic]

No shit

1% monkey

[plush grail]

BRO??

[north relic]

???

[plush grail]

wdym monkey

[north relic]

like how you are an ape

Not uvalos definition of monkey

[sullen berry]

You're in SEA, man

Can we geoguessr where you live

Take any innocuous photo in your city with no giveaways (street signs, faces), we could probably figure it out

[north relic]

leak your address but make it sound like a game

[cedar oasis]

6.2

[plush grail]

stfu

fake

[cedar oasis]

Wtf

[devout path]

6.2” wow ur short

[cedar oasis]

You smell addi

[plush grail]

ur so short uvalo

[cedar oasis]

Stfu ape

[balmy wolf]

which team would be the beat at neo goats right now

[plush grail]

dallas

[balmy wolf]

that isnt dallas or shanghai

[plush grail]

apes together strong

[cedar oasis]

True

Ian duo

I'll play rien

And carry

[plush grail]

we can play

but ur NOT

playing tank

[cedar oasis]

Huh??

Why not

[plush grail]

you suck ASS

[cedar oasis]

My tank is godly

My rien is the best

You trolled my last game

[devout path]

Ratio

[plush grail]

okay lets go

vc rn

SANS JOIN US

LET'S LOSE SOME SR

[hot onyx]

As soon as I come online I will stream a vod review of your rein on Blizzard World

[north relic]

Idk reign

[cedar oasis]

Lmao do it

[hot onyx]

I’d love to but my nan is scheduled a visit from some oxygen folks in the next 20 minutes

[balmy wolf]

owl viewing

weirdchamp

[plush grail]

join us

[cedar oasis]

Apes together strong

[hot onyx]

Apes together take up two roster slots that could be filled by better players

[cedar oasis]

Racism????

Calling us apes wtf sans??

[balmy wolf]

my country is being critisized

i cant belive this

[hot onyx]

Because you’re borderline stupid not black

[cedar oasis]

Sans telling me what colour i am wtf??

[balmy wolf]

stupid is not a colour

[north relic]

Color*

[cedar oasis]

Nope

Colour

[balmy wolf]

i dont speak american

color is not in my vocabularu
y

[north relic]

y is a vowel

[hot onyx]

Average New York citizen

[north relic]

it is a vowel

You refuse to face the facts

[balmy wolf]

y is a vowel

[north relic]

based

[hot onyx]

It is a “vowel depending on wether there are other vowels used in the same word”

[north relic]

Whether*

[balmy wolf]

how do you say why or my without a vowel

[north relic]

or sky

L

[hot onyx]

I have never heard anything more moronic since “Profit is better on ashe than Carpe” and “Aztac is going to flop”

[cedar oasis]

Ian "I'm not a midget I'm mediocre height"

[north relic]

Isn’t he 5’8

[balmy wolf]

wow even im taller

[cedar oasis]

He is 4'2

[hot onyx]

Barely an inch taller than my sister

[north relic]

Bruh I’m like 5’4

[cedar oasis]

Midget

[north relic]

I’m also younger so I will grow :copium:

[plush grail]

short

[north relic]

At least im not a monkey

They are 2’1

[cedar oasis]

Wow based

[balmy wolf]

wow unbased

[sullen berry]

Wait this Isn't OWL

[north relic]

We are talking about who is the best monkey

[sullen berry]

No not you

Them

@willow tartan

[balmy wolf]

yeah waht are those 3 doing

thats not owl

[frosty patrol]

I’m a foot taller than you

lmao

[north relic]

How tall is void

[frosty patrol]

idk

[plush grail]

@cedar oasis where

[cedar oasis]

You smell

I'll be on in an hour

[vagrant jacinth]

OWLEL 55

Damn, chengdu falling apart?

I really hope they don't

[hot onyx]

So do I

My power rankings depend on them being top 3

[north relic]

Mike calling people lunatics for putting Chengdu below top 3

Without leave their dps line is lackluster

[frosty patrol]

wrong

apr1ta jinmu is still above average

[cunning patrol]

Apr1ta is mid

Cope

[frosty patrol]

but apr1ta leave jinmu

is top 2

[north relic]

Nah

Flexibility is going to be a big part

This year has so many stacked dps lines

[plush grail]

tbh at this point the exact opposite of what mike says is correct

[hot onyx]

Not really

Mike said Pr🤮v1de is a terrible human being

[cunning patrol]

Apr1tass wishes he was on the level of greats like

[frosty patrol]

before it was cool

[cunning patrol]

Fits

Lip

Et cetera

[willow tartan]

who is this top 3 we have

[hot onyx]

Very true, join the club

[plush grail]

to be fair

[frosty patrol]

apr1ta is not fits or lip level but he is definitely A tier

[plush grail]

provide is cringe

[cunning patrol]

He sneaks into the lower end of mine unfortunately

[willow tartan]

because i can totally see chengdu making third easy

[cunning patrol]

I have many greats over him

[hot onyx]

I could see the likes of Apr1ta and MN3 equalising and potentially besting Fits

[cunning patrol]

Mn3

[north relic]

If they lose@leave

They won’t be able to imo

[willow tartan]

yeah and what if 2021 atlanta reign lost pelican

as we know right now

they have leave

and they will not lose leave

therefore

[frosty patrol]

apr1ta and mn3 are rookie phenomenon

[hot onyx]

If Chengdu keep Leave and MMonk they’re still 2nd apac

[vagrant jacinth]

Chengdu could

[plush grail]

GLISTER NAGA

[frosty patrol]

second?

[willow tartan]

depends on meta

[north relic]

The only reason we are talking about cdh rn is because of the rumors

[frosty patrol]

chengdu can be either 2nd or 3rd overall

[hot onyx]

In an off tank meta then Spark slips into second

[north relic]

I’m assuming leave leaves

[willow tartan]

what is the rumor?

[hot onyx]

Leave to Fusion

[willow tartan]

that is a terrible rumor

[north relic]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1514192853337100291?s=19

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

Sources: Key Chengdu Hunters players exploring options ahead of OWL Season 5

Read more @Dexerto

https://t.co/W0pDemDFAd

Likes

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Twitter · Apr 13, 2022, 10:44 AM

[frosty patrol]

what like ameng leave to fusion?

[willow tartan]

so what i'm hearing is chengdu is out of money

[north relic]

Lmao the entire auditorium just got an amber alert at the same time

[vagrant jacinth]

God I hope its not true, I was so looking forward to seeing this roster play

[hot onyx]

Top 3 apac

[cunning patrol]

Leave doesn’t deserve to play with a great like mn3

🤦

[willow tartan]

gaga to valiant

[frosty patrol]

imagine fusion just transform into a roster of ameng riven fury leave mn3 carpe zest yveltal mmonk aimgod

holy stacked

[willow tartan]

you guys this is simply NoHill's plan

[frosty patrol]

ga9a not rumored

[willow tartan]

he breaks up the hunters to cop leave and gaga

[frosty patrol]

it’s leave and every single cdh support

[vagrant jacinth]

Fusion just assimilate chengdu

[willow tartan]

all 27 of them?

[frosty patrol]

Honestly here’s my hot take

nohill is a fucking mastermind

RUI and Jfeel join his coaching staff

Ga9a leave mmonk join his roster

[willow tartan]

my hot take is that its not gonna happen because how the fuck do you "explore options" 3 weeks before the season starts. like the only option is to join one of the chinese teams and all of them except valiant are loaded up

they might not even play in the league at all

[plush grail]

HOT TAKE

i love eating slices of cheese

like just raw cheese

[devout path]

Stfu

[willow tartan]

as opposed to cooked cheese?...

[devout path]

Who asked

[plush grail]

no like people usually eat it on bread or smth

i will just take a slice

and raw it

[devout path]

Who asked

[willow tartan]

anyways

i will await patiently for leave to dragons sigining

[devout path]

Spam this hey to save na 👋

[willow tartan]

nothing can save NA

[cedar oasis]

Dallas can

[devout path]

Na valorant

[cedar oasis]

Ew

Shit game

[willow tartan]

Nothing can save NA in riot games

[plush grail]

i love valorant

[devout path]

@tropic herald

[hot onyx]

Valorant is a lot like Apex

Spend a ton of time wandering around a map setting up for a fight that lasts like 10 seconds

[plush grail]

isnt valorant similar to csgo

[devout path]

It’s similar to Valorant

[plush grail]

stfu

[worn falcon]

Chengdu in shambles

[hot onyx]

Worst case if Hunters lost both fs they could sign Kyo

Which would not be a bad pickup at all

[plush grail]

chengdu is trying to save money

so they're 100% downgrading

unless they find a hidden top tier rookie

[tropic herald]

Save a click: Creed, Leave, Nisha, Yveltal, Mmonk, Farway

[balmy wolf]

Can we still earn OW League Tokens by watching the Twitch streams? I haven't checked into those since a good while so may as well again sometime soon!

[plush grail]

nope

only when they're live

[next mesa]

It's on YouTube now

[balmy wolf]

Oohh, okay!

Gotta link my YouTube to my OW acc then!

[plush grail]

soon we'll be able to get tokens again

[balmy wolf]

Nice nice nice!

[hot onyx]

can't wait to get the last 6 Fusion skins plus the new ones

[plush grail]

fusion skins are so ugly tho

[hot onyx]

then my collection will be complete and I can start supporting my real teams

[balmy wolf]

Ohw shiiiit- Super retired? Man, I'm so out of the loop nowadays. Haven't checked in on the OW stuff since like one or two years.

[next mesa]

He just retired a couple of weeks ago

Very sad

[frosty patrol]

all you need to know about the offseason

[plush grail]

gesture, mano and super are all gone now

[dapper sable]

Guys are the overwatch Cokes still available I managed to get one of every team except titans

[plush grail]

all the og main tankss are gone

[frosty patrol]

fate?

[plush grail]

fate was never relevant before season 4

[frosty patrol]

fate was relevant in s1 and s3

and pre-owl on the anamo kariv team

[plush grail]

he really wasnt

[frosty patrol]

fate was A tier in s1, C tier in s2, A tier in s3, S tier in s4

also super only had one insane year

[plush grail]

recency bias

[frosty patrol]

no

[plush grail]

fate a whomegalul but wins s4, relevant

[frosty patrol]

fate was a very good mt in s1 and s3

[plush grail]

super who won 2 back to back years, aka only 1 good year

[frosty patrol]

fate's career has been better than gesture and super's

idk about mano

[plush grail]

ur baiting

[hot onyx]

all bad

[plush grail]

how can fate have a better career