esports-discussion

[cedar oasis]

?

i won 8 games today

some with sans

[north relic]

I will make gm before owl starts

trust

[cedar oasis]

i will make diamond before owl starts

trust

[hot onyx]

Congratulations, you are now platinum dps, you should expect an offer from Dallas any minute now

[cedar oasis]

i replace edison

[north relic]

when are most ppl active

kahoot is required

[cedar oasis]

do it now

or else

im on

no one else matters

[north relic]

no

just you

[cedar oasis]

@hot onyx get on for kahot

[north relic]

two person kahoot?

not optimal tbh

[cedar oasis]

isnt this a good time for all you na nubs?

[north relic]

it is

its 5

but no one is active rn

@hot onyx

[next mesa]

coluge is playing rn?

[hot onyx]

I am watching US Marshals with my nan

Maybe in 30 min

[plush grail]

Why are y'all so fucking shit at planning

I'd join but uvalo legit sent me a dm 3 minutes after I took my sleeping pills

[north relic]

lol

[north relic]

join RIGHT NOW

actually sans

is watching US marshals

[cedar oasis]

fuck you lsd you took too long

im going to sleep now

L

[north relic]

howw is that my fault

fuckiing sans is watching US marshals

[cedar oasis]

ok its sans fault then

[north relic]

ok set plan

4 EST tomorrow

i dont give a shit if you are in a ranked game or watching high school dxd with your nan

[cedar oasis]

high school dxd?

[next mesa]

coluge is playing?

[lofty shale]

iced choked so fucking hard

unfortunate

[next mesa]

he had to pulse

[lofty shale]

he just sorta stood there waiting for his blink and they all looked at him

and he died

@next mesa coluge is playing btw

his name is boogersnot for some reason though

[north relic]

peak comedy

[next mesa]

yea i figured

[lofty shale]

holy fuck

[twilit oriole]

What a map!

[lofty shale]

that was so close

[twilit oriole]

Watching with my sons! Loving it so far!

[lofty shale]

yea it's great

this series is crazy

this is legit better than some owl games lmao

[tropic herald]

To all the Toronto doubters

[lofty shale]

sheeesh

[twilit oriole]

🥶🥶

[lofty shale]

what is hotba's total play time on tracer?

[tropic herald]

6 hours 25 minutes

Says so at the bottom 🙄

[lofty shale]

oh yea my bad

damn!

those stats are clearly uninflated

undeniable

best tracer in the league

[north relic]

i dont see the time

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/ow_Jecse/status/1512912620332158980

Jecse (@ow_Jecse)

gg

Read: https://t.co/rcMIYlGfEd

Twitter · Apr 9, 2022, 9:57 PM

[noble nexus]

I'm not korean so I can't read that

but I'm happy for him

or that sucks for him

[worn falcon]

Jecse retiring

[north relic]

read replies challenge

[noble nexus]

I don't have a twitter account

[noble nexus]

because I like to think I'm a valuable member of society

[worn falcon]

Cap

[noble nexus]

who are you again? lol??

[lofty shale]

jecse retired?

not really that surprising

he was never really that great, always just ok

[north relic]

jecse not to nyxl

sadge

[lofty shale]

even on fuel last year he was easily the weakest member

[north relic]

sanguinar hopium

[lofty shale]

he wasn't terrible though

kinda sad

[north relic]

he is better than the likes of anamo

fixa

but they got teams and he didnt sadge

[earnest leaf]

He was solidly A tier

[lofty shale]

yea he was better than them

i guess relative to other main supports he was pretty good actually

but overall impact as a player not that crazy

no where even close to the top tier main supports

like leejaegon and peak moth

[north relic]

there are like two top tier MS in s4

[lofty shale]

yea exactly

there's just sort of a lack of incredibly impactful main supports, but that's just kinda how that role goes i guess

[cunning patrol]

with that many ms rookies coming in

not that surprising

[lofty shale]

it's more about consistency than high value

and jecse was consistent to be fair

god it'll be crazy if moth doesn't get a team

unless he just isn't looking for one

[north relic]

i mean

isnt leejaegons style

all high value

[lofty shale]

it's not fair to generalize his playstyle

ljg can play selfish or selfless

[worn falcon]

Feedjaegon

[lofty shale]

he defi plays more selfish than other lucios though

but he's also been on an incredible team for two years straight

[cunning patrol]

leejaegod owns ur favorite ms while not trying

[lofty shale]

so he can afford to be more selfish and his team won't collapse under it's own weight

[violet turret]

Every ms shivers in their boots whenever they go against leejaegoat

[tropic herald]

read the first screen only

[worn falcon]

What if they can't read?

[tropic herald]

oh i mean like

i read only the first one

where it split was not the greatest

[north relic]

jecse tragic backstory

bullied relentlessly for "picking his nose" live

[stiff ridge]

when i play wrecking ball it doesnt let me choose its shift ability. its just all red in the bottom right. wont let me use it. anyone know why?

[next mesa]

do you mean piledrive

you need a certain distance

off the ground

to be able to use it

[stiff ridge]

what do you mean? like i have to fly up in the air?

yes pile driver

[tropic herald]

yeah u gotta be in the air

theres a few ways you can do this

[stiff ridge]

ahhhh okay. makes sense but i was so confused

thansk guys

[tropic herald]

one of the ways that i think is helpful is rolling off an edge pressing ctrl and then pressing whatever key makes you come back towards the ledge

[willow tartan]

he is just that good at peeling

of course you dont need to do as much peeling with void on your team but he has the best positioning in the league

[north relic]

who is he talking to?

[tawdry hamlet]

LOL provide getting nuked in the preseason twice

No shot lmaooo

[trim shadow]

weeks before play

[tawdry hamlet]

Landon and rupal and boombox are all irrelevant imo only Luke or exo are worth considering

[worn falcon]

Moth

[tawdry hamlet]

Also as far as sans being happy he turned out to still be a shit person, I think people who said slurs can change and provide not changing shouldn't set in stone that growth isn't possible

[worn falcon]

Moth to London ez

[worn falcon]

Wdym d*fran is reformed, totally

[willow tartan]

i dont think that was ever in question lol

everyone can change

[next mesa]

dafran looks to be reformed

so far

but the way he's doing it is suspicious

[earnest leaf]

Dafran is always weird

[tawdry hamlet]

@willow tartan I was referring to this since unless you knew him like personally there was no indication he was still racist from 3 years ago and hadn't changed. Since everyone was saying he did from what I saw.

[earnest leaf]

I don't think dafran is ever a bad person

[tawdry hamlet]

Just a reactionary troll lmaoo

[earnest leaf]

I just think he's a dumbfuck instead at those times

[tawdry hamlet]

But if it is Landon over exo or Luke I'll cry

[earnest leaf]

most of the time people in general are just stupid, rather than having actual bad intentions

landon is NA as well right?

[tawdry hamlet]

Yes

He was famous for uhh drama in t2 a couple years ago I think 🤔

I think he was accused of hacking or being boosted or some shit right? Way back

Might be someone else

[willow tartan]

ignore sans he's a dumbass. that's not a genuine opinion anyone holds and he's probably exaggerating

genuinely believing people don't change is equivalent to believing in star signs and birth stones

[tawdry hamlet]

[noble nexus]

I mean people can 100% change but prov1de didn't really show shit about changing

they just did the bare minimum of not being racist anymore

not that it's easy to show change

I just think prov1de being allowed back into the league was kind of premature

[gusty rampart]

It's not really Prov1de didn't change

He did it in his past

[noble nexus]

yeah 3 years is a decent amount of time

[gusty rampart]

Both incidents were around the same time

[noble nexus]

but I personally don't see any change

tbh

[gusty rampart]

Well he groomed a minor

Whether he changes or not is kinda irrelevant at this point

[noble nexus]

100%

but I mean before that is what I mean

even just from the Slur shit

I didn't personally believe there was any change

but it's not easy to show that you're no longer racist

because it's kind of easy to be not be publicly racist

[willow tartan]

what is the definition for grooming? i think i misunderstand

[noble nexus]

it's like

manipulating a minor over a long period of time to then meet them to do nono things

by definition I think

idk I'm not googling "grooming"

[earnest leaf]

This wasn't grooming but still gross as fuck

[noble nexus]

fuck that

yeah I don't really think it's the exact definition of it

[earnest leaf]

Grooming usually entails a much more evil intent with a lot more going on than a weirdo fuck sending a dick pic to a minor

[noble nexus]

however some of those screenshots contain the absolute most disgusting manipulation I've ever seen in my life

Grooming usually means intent to meet in person

I believe

I'm not an expert

[earnest leaf]

that's part of it

[willow tartan]

according to the good ole internet

grooming is maliciously setting up a minor to be receptive to sexual advances

because minor small brain

[noble nexus]

but lowkey I've seen a ton of cc's getting cancelled for shit with minors and I've seen the screenshots of a bunch of incidents like this but this is probably the most vile manipulative shit I've ever seen regarding the sex change and stuff

[willow tartan]

what?

[gusty rampart]

It's not cancellation

It's committing a fucking crime

[noble nexus]

you know what I mean

dumbass

[willow tartan]

is there more context i am missing?

[next mesa]

honestly that was grooming

lowkey

textbook grooming

"ik its weird haha"

[willow tartan]

textbook grooming, they'll never see this one coming.

[next mesa]

when is diem getting signed

[willow tartan]

he is the london spitfire

new flex support

[next mesa]

watching costa

hes underrating diem

diem>ans

[willow tartan]

who is costa?

[next mesa]

custa

whoever what that means

wggrue

that makes no sense

[willow tartan]

what?

custa is stream right now?

[next mesa]

no

shock vs dragons stage 3

rewatch

[twin bloom]

That was switch

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/fei_yaaa/status/1512805218441785347

fei (@fei_yaaa)

Birdring: "I will be quitting all the activities I have done as 'Birdring'. Please forget me and thank you very much."

😭😭😭

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Twitter · Apr 9, 2022, 2:50 PM

birdring retired from being birdring

[next mesa]

yeah i saw

wtf happened

[raw ermine]

I think it just means streaming won't be happening any more

[devout path]

Wow thanks for telling us we didn’t see the first 3 times it was posted!

[raw ermine]

Last time is got posted was fuckin twelve hours ago sorry for not seeing thst

[devout path]

Who asked!

[tropic herald]

https://tiermaker.com/create/overwatch-league-2022-dps-players-90448

i did NOT think

[earnest leaf]

I'd move danteh/nero/carpe all up one tier personally

And ans

[next mesa]

shy above fits

not based

[tropic herald]

seethe

[next mesa]

based tierlist

incoming

[next mesa]

what kind of overwatch are u watching putting alphayi in C

D*

oops

assassin is too high on my list

[worn falcon]

Fits overrated

Fleta overrated

[next mesa]

u guys are just not smart

unfortunately

[worn falcon]

Danteh C

[next mesa]

im based

high C or low B

[worn falcon]

A tier

[next mesa]

lol

[worn falcon]

Ans S tier

[next mesa]

guys danteh is yaki tier

so funny

[earnest leaf]

Yaki s tier tho

[next mesa]

nah

[willow tartan]

didnt you guys do a different list of this like a week ago lol

or was that only flex dps or something i dont remember

[next mesa]

no shot u put choisehwan

below fuckin s9mm

and jinmu

😭

[willow tartan]

we've done this

we've also done separate ones for hitscan and flex

we are out of content

[lost thicket]

BRO

THAT WAS 10 DAYS AGO

[noble nexus]

Zzzzzzzz

You guys fucking suck

[earnest leaf]

tiers aren't ordered within eachother

[noble nexus]

No kizmo

[lost thicket]

Fan Behaviour

[next mesa]

danteh A tier is just so delusional tbh

he's okay on 2 heroes

[lost thicket]

L

[earnest leaf]

And those two heroes is most likely all he'll have to play this year

If He didn't have pelican I would move him to B

[noble nexus]

Didn’t rate kevster echo or genji

Smh

[worn falcon]

I'll out tracers parpe on B

[next mesa]

still wont be top tier in them

unfortunately

[willow tartan]

what's really delusional is eileen's portrait being fucking McCree

[worn falcon]

If was Ashe Carpe it would be A

[willow tartan]

like come on man really

[next mesa]

eileen played too much cree this year

cuz a certain someone was ass

[willow tartan]

cause a certain someone did not want to play the game yes

that doesnt mean you make his portrait mccree

[next mesa]

maybe its based on playtime

[willow tartan]

kai is widow

[next mesa]

in that case

no clue

[willow tartan]

there should be no widow anywhere

[frosty patrol]

sparkr whoru in the same tier as pati?

highway robbery

put some respect on their names

shockwave above heesu jinmu?

shy mn3 b tier?

[earnest leaf]

The tiers aren't ordered within eachother

[frosty patrol]

not ordered within tiers

[split flume]

once the season begins proper will be in holy shit

[devout path]

dont agree with sparkle or proper

doha no

shax with fucking checkmate omegalul

[frosty patrol]

shax is a one trick who isn't even above average on his one trick

he's mediocre on one hero

[split flume]

boston fan detected

opinion disregarded

[devout path]

just valentine fan

fuck boston

mcd signers

[frosty patrol]

this is a troll tier list

[devout path]

ur a troll tierlist

[gusty rampart]

Isn't WhoRU's Genji good?

[willow tartan]

are you rating them overall as players or within their role on their team

[frosty patrol]

as players

shax poopoo

[frosty patrol]

https://twitter.com/ow_Jecse/status/1512912620332158980

Jecse (@ow_Jecse)

gg

Read: https://t.co/rcMIYlGfEd

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Twitter · Apr 9, 2022, 9:57 PM

[willow tartan]

retirement post?

[frosty patrol]

yes

[willow tartan]

It seems like you've been cutting yourself off a lot in the past six years.

gamer lifestyle

[hot onyx]

Seicoe is not F seek help

Profit S 💀

Carpe a whole tier below Decay

[hot onyx]

I’m gonna ignore Zest and go straight to Backbone above Seicoe SparkR sHockWave and Shax

[plush grail]

Your opinions all suck

Legit so dumb

[tawdry hamlet]

There we go

[outer pulsar]

why can't I upload images 😦

[hot onyx]

Danteh Edison Naga above Carpe Decay Doha Zest and Aspire??

Where do I get this dps tier list?

[trail perch]

develop decay zest in b is a travesty

zest and mn3 r both prob S

at least

sparkr above happy is just clown shit

and how do you put s9mm above doha

hydron in C is also a 0 brain take

ppl not talking about how mn3 is literally proper tier

[outer pulsar]

lmao

[trail perch]

have u not watched t1 play like ever?

Those r both like actual generational talents

[plush grail]

Based

Naga is top tier

[trail perch]

younger proper pelican duo

and these actually get to stay together in owl

[hot onyx]

Truthful speaking for once

Shame they were held back by Belosrea Unique and Krillin in T1

[plush grail]

stfu sans

[hot onyx]

And now being held back by Carpe Fury on Fusion

[trail perch]

mystary had zest in B tier...

[hot onyx]

He also has Speedily above Kevster

And Edison Guriyo above C

[willow tartan]

lads i have lost my appetite for the past two days

on the bright side eating so little means that i can spend more money on stupid shit

[plush grail]

what did u buy

dont tell me ur planning on buying a shd jersey

[willow tartan]

i would need to hope i keep my appetite lost for the rest of the week if i wanna ship something from china bro

that shit expensive af

[plush grail]

jerseys are like 70 euros

how much would shipping be

[willow tartan]

shipping + import tax is like 40% i think

just judging from the last time i tried to import stuff

[plush grail]

merch shipping sucks with every org having to host their own sites

[willow tartan]

if it wasnt and i had to import from the US

itd be cheaper for me to hire an underpaid labourer to make a jersey for me

[plush grail]

just do that yeah

owl should just set up 1 big NA, EU, CN and KR merch shop online

covers every country where owl has teams

[willow tartan]

why set up one for KR and one for CN

[frosty patrol]

yes

[frosty patrol]

shax sucks

[plush grail]

KR because ow is massive there

and CN because they have 3 teams

[willow tartan]

its like making one for US and CAN

they are literally next to each other than u dont really need to make 2 distribution centres

if you mean just front end websites yeah

but supply hubs you would want to spread them out better

[hot onyx]

I don’t care what Carpe simps/haters and Decay simps/haters say, they are both on the same level with different strengths

[plush grail]

just pay some kid to make them for u then

[willow tartan]

blizzard already does that

[hot onyx]

Shax and SparkR singlehandedly carried Spitfire into winning and taking two maps vs Shock

While Backbone isn’t even in the top 3 best dps players to pick up from EU Contenders

[willow tartan]

aaron keller's 3rd nephew is now a full-time employee for ow2 beta testing

[hot onyx]

Grathen Seicoe Yiquids and Lethal all better

[frosty patrol]

shax is below average on his one trick

[plush grail]

still crazy how T2 doesnt get ow2

[frosty patrol]

cannot be good

[plush grail]

but fucking random family members do

[frosty patrol]

same logic as me having venom low

[willow tartan]

its pretty obvious why

little 12 yro micheal doesnt have the ability to leak the whole game to reddit instantly

[frosty patrol]

except venom is above shax because at least he’s probably like 7-10 on his one trick

[willow tartan]

whereas if you gave any T2 player the game that's exactly what is going to happen

sure you could only give access to ow2 for the top contenders teams but that's just straight up uncompetitive

so if you give one t2, you give all t2

[hot onyx]

Shax isn’t great but that doesn’t make sense when you’re putting inferior players above him and other better players

[frosty patrol]

tr33 would leak ow2 on stream or something by accident

[hot onyx]

Reason with why Backbone is better than sHockWave or SparkR

[plush grail]

i will leak ow2

[frosty patrol]

I genuinely rate everyone in c tier besides maybe victoria significantly better than shax

[hot onyx]

And yet with your lack of flexibility argument, you have Profit at S

[plush grail]

lack of bitches

[frosty patrol]

profit is flexible

and above average on every hero he plays

[hot onyx]

Profit is S on a good day at 3 heroes

[frosty patrol]

shax is below average on his one hero

[frosty patrol]

he’s A on enough heroes to make him S

[hot onyx]

His echo and mei is not something I would be comfortable with on my team

Plus the inconsistency factor to take in

[frosty patrol]

Give me 20 minutes

[hot onyx]

He wakes up, decides wether to get out of the good or bad side of the bed

[frosty patrol]

Then I can argue

[hot onyx]

And plays tracer or hanzo at an elite level

Or performs the illios ruins recall incident of 2020

If you can send me a vod or two of good Profit echo or mei my mind is flexible to new information

[willow tartan]

profit echo is really medicore

mediocre

sort of like how danteh tracers

its pretty alright

[hot onyx]

Nah I rate Danteh tracer around mid in NA

Profit echo in apac is bottom 3

I significantly rate Fleta Leave AlphaYi and Zest echo higher

Possibly CSW echo as well if he plays

[frosty patrol]

profit is mediocre on echo and mei

A or S on tracer hanzo

A on genji

• other shit

I have profit rock bottom S so I’d be willing to move him to A

[hot onyx]

If he was consistently good at his good heroes I would have him A as well

But the guy is like Harvey Dent flipping a coin choosing wether to play good vs Dragons or bad vs Charge

Also I don’t rate his genji A

Just because he pulled it out vs Shock on Gibraltar once doesn’t make him an A tier genji

[frosty patrol]

ok fine

profit high A

he’s good at tracer hanzo genji pharah probably ashe

[hot onyx]

He was a serviceable ashe

Ivy was a serviceable ashe

Just because he pulled it out vs a team that had their worst meta when he had his best meta doesn’t make him a good ashe

[frosty patrol]

anyways on the shax point

if you’re like 15th on your best hero

how the hell are you above D

especially as damned near a one trick

@hot onyx

[hot onyx]

Because Backbone on his signature heroes is worse than Shax on his signature heroes

[frosty patrol]

I have shax above backbone?

dude I have backbone in F

[hot onyx]

I’m talking about Levy’s tier list

[frosty patrol]

yeah levy is a big dumb dumb

[hot onyx]

He has Backbone above Shax SparkR and sHockWave

[frosty patrol]

backbone is the 2nd worst dps in the league

patiphan terrorizing the 1 spot

[willow tartan]

shy modcheck

[plush grail]

If u still rate shax and sparkr high ur just coping

A whole year of play

[frosty patrol]

good ian take

[plush grail]

And still shit

[hot onyx]

And Shy, brain stuck to fdps

[plush grail]

Same goes for kevster

Kevster is mid at best

[frosty patrol]

bad ian take

[plush grail]

Stop hyping up random players as top tiers when they're mid as fuck

[hot onyx]

Honestly

Shax was stuck with Hybrid Blasè Molf1g Hadi Kellex and Ripa for half the season

And SparkR still had that same tank support line coming into the league in his rookie debut

[frosty patrol]

shax and sparkr are mediocre or bad

[hot onyx]

And still looked pretty good

[frosty patrol]

sparkr being the mediocre one

[hot onyx]

Mediocre I’d say

[willow tartan]

leave is not fdps

[frosty patrol]

shax is bad

[hot onyx]

I’m not gonna rate either of them top ten or anything

But on their signature heroes I don’t see them as bottom tier

[frosty patrol]

shax isn’t a bottom tier tracer, just below average

[hot onyx]

Bottom tier goes to like Checkmate Mirror Backbone and maybe Valentine

[willow tartan]

what are the required heroes for fdps to play nowadays

tracer echo mei

[plush grail]

Doom

[willow tartan]

not doom

[cedar oasis]

Everyone can play doom

[hot onyx]

Echo mei genji pharah and tracer as a bonus

[willow tartan]

when was the last time genji was relevant

[plush grail]

Or just play every hero like naga

[frosty patrol]

not genji

[plush grail]

Naga is such a chad

[willow tartan]

i dont think genji is too much necessary for u to be a good fdps

u dont need a exceptional gfenji for that

[plush grail]

Genji might be busted in ow2

[hot onyx]

2021 Countdown Cup when EQO hard forced it on Anubis vs Spark

[plush grail]

No off tanks to peel for support

[frosty patrol]

if you suddenly need an exceptional genji just 30 day contract ttuba

[willow tartan]

i say

[frosty patrol]

or eqo

[willow tartan]

genji not very necessary

[hot onyx]

TTuba is not exceptional?

[willow tartan]

tracer is more necessary than genji

[plush grail]

Genji fun

[willow tartan]

genji is the bonus

if ur fdps cant play tracer that is a fat L

[frosty patrol]

ttuba is exceptional

[willow tartan]

oh and also sombra

sombra is a good hero to have in ur pocket

[hot onyx]

Yeah but there’s also hitscan tracer players like Carpe Decay Flora

[frosty patrol]

apr1ta mn3*

[willow tartan]

yeah because i think hero like tracer is mandatory for both hitscan and fdps to learn

[hot onyx]

Apr1ta yes

MN3 is good but I didn’t want to put it up there

[willow tartan]

i want to say sombra is also going to be like that

[hot onyx]

But saying that I did put Flora up there so why not

[willow tartan]

oh

hanzo is the one i am forgetting

so tracer/mei/echo/pharah/hanzo + genji

hitscan generally play uhh

ashe cree tracer widow symmetra

[trail perch]

bro zest...

im sorry zest is literally an S tier player

Probably going to shit on most tracers in apac

ngl

Even as a spark fan I rate him above alphayi

Prob above CSW

and above diya/innovation

and honestly

he might honestly be better than profit and fleta

He's that good

[north relic]

owlel

[vagrant jacinth]

OWLEL 52

[plush grail]

FUCK KEVSTE

R

[plush grail]

@north relic join now

[frosty patrol]

zest is not s tier

I rate the man high B

he wasn’t even a top 2 fdps in kr contenders

and there was a sizeable gap between him and proper/heesang

[trail perch]

bro what

r u ok?

[frosty patrol]

zest is in the 3-5 range for apac fdps

[trail perch]

Lmao

[frosty patrol]

not better than fleta or leave

since leave is fdps post apr1ta arrival

if you don’t count leave then 2-4

[next mesa]

Backbone is better

[outer pulsar]

L

[next mesa]

essenzhou acting like his takes are still taken seriously 😭

[trim shadow]

Man ans widow being just s is kinda disrespectful

[frosty patrol]

it’s them overall

not them on that one hero

ans overall being S is an awful take

[trim shadow]

Also what the fuck is a good mei?

All you do is freeze and take heads

It has no skill difference

[frosty patrol]

striker shy S+ and ans S

so braindead

[trim shadow]

Now listen

Jinmu should go up a tier

[frosty patrol]

speedily S

Jinmu S is a braindead take

[trim shadow]

Sometimes jinmu slamming his head into the wall

Yields fantastic results

And when u add leave into the equation…

[frosty patrol]

he’s not an S tier player though

mystary also has shy striker > leave

actually braindead

[trim shadow]

Wait wasnt shy handicaped a little by his team how is s+ a far judgement

Fair*

Is this stats or how they play the hero?

[frosty patrol]

For the last time

it isn't individual heroes

it's overall

[trim shadow]

Yea thats what im asking if this like they are topping the charts in stats or is it consistency depth of pool or just straight mechanics

[frosty patrol]

it's not stats

it's just

how good they are lmao

don't know how else to phrase it

[trim shadow]

Mechanics/consistency then

[frosty patrol]

/gamesense/flexibility

yeah

[trim shadow]

I didnt even see it but in what world is carpe a b tier player?

He hasnt absolutely cliffed like other dps of his generation

[plush grail]

''someone is slacking on dps and it's not mega''

[devout path]

WHOS READY FOR VCT MASTERS REYKJAVIK

[plush grail]

this is owl discussion

fuck off with valorant shit

[devout path]

NO

[vagrant cargo]

Speedily S LMFAOOOO

[frosty patrol]

ikr

weirdo take

[cunning patrol]

??????????

[cunning patrol]

im ready.

[devout path]

preds time

[trail perch]

drx

kri

[cunning patrol]

ok full honest take

[trail perch]

kru*

and optic

[cunning patrol]

have no watched either team

[devout path]

Zeta division kru optic

[trail perch]

r all winning today

[cunning patrol]

in this first game

[trail perch]

No shot

zeta got blacklisted

for being that bad in scrims

[devout path]

wait what

[trail perch]

Yeah

[devout path]

???

[cunning patrol]

sandbag

[trail perch]

Other teams refused to scrim them

[cunning patrol]

they will pull it back!

[trail perch]

cause they were that bad

[devout path]

LOL

[trail perch]

Nah DRX is insane

top 5 team at the event imo

[cunning patrol]

yeah agree

[devout path]

notice how no one said TL

[trail perch]

yeah cause kru

[devout path]

informed chat

[trail perch]

Kru diff

Phoenix diff

[devout path]

i dont like TL

[trail perch]

I want to see keznit pull it out

[cunning patrol]

liquid have l1nk playing every agent possible

its disturbing

[trail perch]

liquid plays every agent possible

they pull out literally everyone

[cedar oasis]

Shut up weirdos

[cunning patrol]

🤓

[devout path]

@tropic herald preds now

im predding emp preds is drx kru optic

[cunning patrol]

agree

[north relic]

Based

[cedar oasis]

Valorant is shit

[north relic]

Based x2

[devout path]

cope

cope that valorant esports is more alive than owl

[cedar oasis]

Valorant still shit

And you smell

So L

[north relic]

bad game

[trim shadow]

Valorant has its moments

Thats all ill say

[devout path]

vct time

[trim shadow]

And then im violently reminded this is a riot game

[north relic]

Flora > proper

https://twitter.com/FloraOw02/status/1512916572142247937?s=20&t=55ontES_X8XjdHVRnYD7hg

NYXL Flora (@FloraOw02)

rank 1 ez zz

Likes

494

Twitter · Apr 9, 2022, 10:13 PM

[cunning patrol]

no

[cedar oasis]

Lame

[plush grail]

uvalo

sans misses u

[cedar oasis]

Talk to me when flora hits 5k then I'll agree he is better then proper and lip

[devout path]

omegalul

[cedar oasis]

Based

Tell him to get some bitches

[next mesa]

the guard slaps

[plush grail]

says u

[cedar oasis]

L

[cunning patrol]

they dont

[next mesa]

the guard vs drx finals

loud gonna shit the bed

optic ceiling too low

fnatic no braveaf

no fpx

tl is garbage

[devout path]

fnatic dont have brave?

wtf

[trail perch]

Or derke for tmrw

He'll be back later on

brave was like pro russia or smth

So they suspended him

[devout path]

wtf

[trail perch]

Yeah fnatic got vry unlucky

[forest token]

I thought he was russian

which means current world sanctions apply

all the russian quake players were dropped from qpl because bethesda/id/MS couldn't actually pay them due to financial sanctions

[willow tartan]

haha that's dumb

[north relic]

im so sad

silksong has been canceled

[forest token]

not much riot can do about it unfortunately

[tropic herald]

List matches

[devout path]

DRX vs zeta division, TL vs KRU, OPTIC vs xia

Idk who the last team is

[willow tartan]

Boomb4l and Perfecto play for Na'Vi in ESL pro league

[forest token]

are they still attending LAN?

[willow tartan]

yeah

[north relic]

@cedar oasis @hot onyx @plush grail kahoot?

[forest token]

weird

where is it

[tropic herald]

DRX KRU OPTIC

[willow tartan]

Germany

[forest token]

even weirder

the fuck kinda pull does ESL have

[willow tartan]

csgo diff

[next mesa]

xerxia?

ex x-10

no pati

sushiboys still there doe 😎

[hot onyx]

when

[north relic]

when uvalo and ian respond

[hot onyx]

ok

[cedar oasis]

L

[north relic]

join owl viewing party for kahoot?

@hot onyx CANCEL QUEUE

KAHOOT

[tropic herald]

@devout path Preds ?

[devout path]

DRX KRU OPTIC

[tropic herald]

based

[next mesa]

isn't icebox a very strong map for zeta

[north relic]

join kahoot

@cedar oasis do i start

YOU GUYS FUCKING SUCK

10/16

is first

ok

time to make another one

with easier questions

since you guys are dumb

cope

@cedar oasis llet me boost

[hot onyx]

I don't need easier

how was i supposed to know about the statistical questions

[north relic]

common sense

[hot onyx]

common sense told me that the MVP would have at least one statistical achievement

[tropic herald]

@devout path drx n optic winning groups

[finite sedge]

copium

drx is going to destroy japan and then do nothing against any of the not catastrophic teams and everyone is gonna cope about how "they got unlucky" and shouldve placed higher for the third tournament in a row

[tropic herald]

Haven’t watched BR play at all but unless NiP is some insane team this is DRXs group to lose

[devout path]

Maybe

Depends on how fnatic is

[cunning patrol]

Man

This is sad to watch

[next mesa]

Nip is baf

They play Reyna

[cedar oasis]

fuck you all ill be back in 10 min i gotta do something

[plush grail]

ping me when ur ready

[cedar oasis]

@plush grail smelly boi

get back on

[plush grail]

@cedar oasis

viewparty

[frosty patrol]

nyxl mano hotba tankline in s4

nyxl carpe

gzc leave

[north relic]

uvalo takes a fat L

@plush grail send the clip

[cedar oasis]

he got me killed

[cedar oasis]

they stoped shooting you

[hot onyx]

good stats

[lost thicket]

what hero is shy the best of

or at least top tier on

[earnest leaf]

landon doing the deadlift of a century this map

jfc

[next mesa]

widow

ashe

cree

maybe echo

[earnest leaf]

when I fully watch apac this year shy better be a god

because I swear he was talked about for one stage and then never talked about again

[next mesa]

he's an S tier hitscan

below fits, lip

[north relic]

flora

[trail perch]

ashe

cassidy

tracer

echo

[devout path]

There is NO FUCKING WAY

Liquid actually won that

What

The

Fuck

[cedar oasis]

shit game

[frosty patrol]

he's not a top tier tracer

[trail perch]

Yes he is

watch the vods

look at his gameplay

just watch his tracer POV

[frosty patrol]

there's a lot of better tracers

lip fleta profit apr1ta leave proper kevster venom yaki decay striker at a bare minimum

[next mesa]

his tracer is okay

if you watch his povs

no pound energy

[lost thicket]

I need to refresh decay tracers again

[frosty patrol]

yes, shy tracer is decent

definitely not top tier

[plush grail]

''bye kitten'' - @cedar oasis 2022

[cedar oasis]

?

proof?

[plush grail]

in my mind forever

[next mesa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-pj4Va9Qc

[lost thicket]

if NYXL stayed in APAC who'd you rank them

where'd

[gusty rampart]

Like 4th

Thank God they didn't stay

[next mesa]

fifth or sixth

depending on valiant and spark

[gusty rampart]

Who's above?

[next mesa]

nyxl is just kinda overrated

[gusty rampart]

Nah

Yaki Flora fucks

[next mesa]

its also the only part of their roster that's remotely good

kellan is ok

gnj and bong is so bad

[gusty rampart]

Gargoyle will be picked up

Mark. My. Words.

[twin bloom]

A medicore OT

Wow

[next mesa]

so 3/6 of the roster that went like 4-12

[gusty rampart]

Better than some teams

[next mesa]

doesnt inspire confidence

anyways

sasin and nohill clears

[cunning patrol]

wrong!

#carpeisthegoat

[hot onyx]

Odd way to spell “FiXa”

[hot onyx]

Didn’t they go 6-10 or 5-11?

[balmy wolf]

In double flex support it’s the best itl

[twin bloom]

Viol2t finn

Alot bettorer

Imo

[balmy wolf]

No

Bazzo is that you mfer

[next mesa]

lol

ur so funny tbh

[balmy wolf]

It is the best itl double flex support lineup

[twin bloom]

Who iz that

[next mesa]

yes

[willow drum]

Sheesh clean

[balmy wolf]

You Atlanta Reign stan

[cunning patrol]

I disagree

@devout path modcheck

[devout path]

?

[cunning patrol]

are u watching

[devout path]

yes

optic r bad on icebox all good

[cunning patrol]

the north american region needs me to save it

from the looks of it

[devout path]

yay op diffs surf

[cunning patrol]

#victorisgod

tweet it

massive kj diff i fear

[deft glacier]

Do you know when other live streams are gonna happen ?

[next mesa]

the guard

NA's last hope

[tropic herald]

foxz

[cunning patrol]

I blame tenz for na’s shortcomings this tournament 🤦🤦🤦

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/itsPatiphan/status/1513280295717335043?s=20&t=2hjRo4u5pnrxtrLQ1dOaiA

Patiphan (@itsPatiphan)

Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is a mental health condition that's triggered by a terrifying event

Likes

1130

Retweets

156

Twitter · Apr 10, 2022, 10:18 PM

[devout path]

god

na sucks

[cunning patrol]

how do 3 ppl die to one spray 🤦

[lost thicket]

banger

I have no interest in Valorant but

from what I know

NA VAL is getting their shit kicked in

I want to eat 🍽 outrageous😮 amounts of raw 🤤 fish 🐟 tonight 🌙 just the rawer the better 💦 🎣 and I want to be surrounded 🧑🤝🧑 by boys 👨❤️💋👨 or men 💪 preferably men 😍🤩****

[twin bloom]

NA val washed the moment apac starts taking da game seriously

So sad

[north relic]

asian gene diff

[sullen berry]

More like "will work for less than noodles diff"

[willow tartan]

thriving eSports scene diff*

children try to go pro in America? good luck. children try to go pro in Korea? prestigious institution

what is the minimum age to compete in champions?

like 16?

[devout path]

Probs

[wide minnow]

https://mobile.twitter.com/dafran/status/1513217770015838210

Farmer Dafran (@dafran)

I DONT KNOW MAN. I LOVE AND WANT TO PLAY OVERWATCH BUT ITS LITERALLY DEAD GAME IN THE MORNING AND I AM MORNING PERSON. FUCKKKKK. I WILL TRY TO STREAM LATER AGAIN BUT ITS SO HARD FOR ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY IS OW THE ONLY GAME I ENJOY

Likes

1091

Twitter · Apr 10, 2022, 6:10 PM

This is so true

Just facts

[willow tartan]

pov you have an addiction

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/Apply/status/1513252506544992259

Apply (@Apply)

@FLMayhem do u ever shut up

Twitter · Apr 10, 2022, 8:28 PM

[lost thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkehOMi_BZo 7:44

superior intellect

also support t2 in the crowd

god I love how crusty talks

[earnest leaf]

s2 GF was such an anti-climatic end to the shock/titans rivalry

they were even in the regular season vs eachother, even in stage finals

then shock just 4-0s

[devout path]

So sad 2-2-2 happened

[earnest leaf]

if there was no 2-2-2 shock was probably gonna win that season still

[devout path]

Like obviously it’s a good thing that 2-2-2 happened but I would’ve liked if it happened after the end of the season

[earnest leaf]

yea that late into the season was really weird

[devout path]

It would’ve been a much more competitive GF

And maybe a shock v titans stage 3 finals

[lost thicket]

sure but it was still such a good gf

one of my favorites (non bias omegalul)

[devout path]

I haven’t liked any of the grand finals

They’re all anticlimactic

[earnest leaf]

s4 finals would have been better if the meta wasn't so heavily in favor of shd

[devout path]

If stage 1 finals 2019 was grand finals that would easily be the best game of all time (already is but even more so)

[devout path]

Would’ve been a better finals if any team other than Atlanta made it

[lost thicket]

oh uh, out of boredom here are a team of season MVP v Play off MVP

RSMVP: JJoNak, sinatraa, Fleta and Leave

POMVP: Profit, ChoiHyoBin, Striker and LIP

[devout path]

Dallas glads Chengdu would’ve been good gf to play against shanghai

[earnest leaf]

would have just been a 4-0 regardless unless some team figured something out

maybe dallas or glads could take a map

shock maaaybe

[lost thicket]

we were robbed of Dallas v SHD GF

[devout path]

Chengdu could’ve

[lost thicket]

3 of these are retired sadge

[devout path]

Just unfortunate the na teams decided to match Atlanta in brawl mirrors

[lost thicket]

also 3 were on Shock, 2 on Dragons

[lost thicket]

Yeah

Atlanta was so fucking good I loved it

though Dallas deserved that GF

[earnest leaf]

atlanta's rush/double shield was too strong for the other teams to force dive

[devout path]

We deserved an actual gf with the two best teams of the season playing at top level

[earnest leaf]

really only chengdu/shd could counter atl's rush

[willow tartan]

Chengdu should've been over Atlanta and Shock

But yveltal throw

[earnest leaf]

tbf

choi was doing some nasty shit to chengdu that series

[willow tartan]

yveltal literal throw

[earnest leaf]

he singlehandedly countered leave/jinmu for two maps

[tropic herald]

glads underperformed

so much

[twin bloom]

Glads lost to Their comps and they didn't mirror

[twin bloom]

Shock were just as much as rush one tricks as ATL were

[earnest leaf]

tbf they almost took ilios off shd on dive

[lost thicket]

no way a ms would change the course of that game lmao

[earnest leaf]

but shock mostly was a rush team yea

[twin bloom]

And fuel couldn't beat ATL's ball dive they wouldn't beat shanghai on it

[twin bloom]

That wasn't dive that was 6 man a form of rush

[balmy wolf]

Who cares about last season bar the first mid season tournament

[twin bloom]

Best Meta was stage 2 meta

[balmy wolf]

Atlanta Reign, NYXL, Defiant, Boston Uprising, and Justice. Rank these teams coming into next season

[twin bloom]

But fuel abused low skill comps over honest high skill orisa sigma ashe echo bap mercy

Sadly

[balmy wolf]

Orisa Sigma is a shit comp

[twin bloom]

It is the most

High skill comp

In OWL

[balmy wolf]

Anyways bazzo hurry up and rank those teams

[twin bloom]

ATL, defiant,justice, nyxl,boston

Justice overtake defiant

Once vigilantee

Turns of age

Imo

[tawdry hamlet]

But bro Yaki is the best tracer in the world and flora is insane bro

[twin bloom]

Yaki echo worst ever

Imho

And kellan worst MT

[tawdry hamlet]

Amusing when Striker retired everyone was like instantly Yaki is new best tracer but then like Lip and Fleta both set a new bar 😤

[twin bloom]

Out of the KR

Contender

Region

[twin bloom]

Kevin and leave bettor than all those guys

[tawdry hamlet]

My tracer list honestly goes
Lip
Leave
Kevster
Fleta
Profit
(New contenders prospects idk where to put yet)
Carpe and the rest

[twin bloom]

Lip has like 2 hours on tracer

I don't think he should be ranked above leaf

And kevin

[tawdry hamlet]

So does pelican but those two hours made me very horny in the metaphorical sense for his game play

But yeah obviously lmao

I just like lip

[balmy wolf]

Justice have the same issues as last year and doesn’t Vigilantee miss 9 games?

[tawdry hamlet]

Happy is weird his hero pool bad

[twin bloom]

They get a good FS eventually and happy is a massive upgrade

From jerry

And having to perma run

Assasin

Who sucks

They just start happy decay

And do good hopefully

[tawdry hamlet]

I still cannot believe glads dps line

Why they do that

Literally handicap themselves for nothing

Was Jerry better than im37

[twin bloom]

Im37 was worse

[tawdry hamlet]

True

[balmy wolf]

I don’t really think Assassin sucks

[tawdry hamlet]

Im37 the kariv of dps

[balmy wolf]

I think Justice’s clear issue was shit coordination, shit game plan, and no fucking style

And shit supports on an individual level bar Bebe’s ana

[twin bloom]

Justice wasn't bad last season when their were no hero pools