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pelican isnt a bad sombra lmao
he is not a good sombra
its like whenever shock tries to get someone to play sombra
they just dont have anyone who can do the job
When Shy plays the heroes he’s good at
Like most other players
He’s nuts
Just because he isn’t a Leave level hyperflex doesn’t mean he’s inferior in every shape and form
heesu third
Oh dear lord he’s going to pull that card because Seoul made it further in the playoffs instead of being consistently good all season round
Sombra list for s4:
Assassin
Where Backbone
Misread
Who cares all owl players are good stop debating whos better based on silly arguments
u guys didnt win anything either
Get off your sister
stop being so delusional
There, i solved #esports-discussion
I'll get on your sister
philly fans
thinks they are superior but they are just the 2015 hawks
or the 2021 jazz
Oh no, because I am an ex fan of the Philadelphia Fusion he thinks I’m insulted
But simple facts say that any other non hog based meta would’ve resulted in a Fusion win 2020
Uhhh
Shanghai probably beat fusion in some non hog based meta
It depends
i love the excuses that philly fans make
Also fusion lost to shock at their own game
I’m talking about the loser semis vs Seoul
in a 2 off tank meta as the only team with 2 off tanks they got back to back swept
how embarassing is that honestly
You said fusion win 2020
FUSION WOOO
How on gods earth is that an excuse
we still pound you unfortunately
3-0
you'll never know
Yeah because neither off tank played hog for two years
i see the results in front of me
neither has every other tank in the league
is that really the excuse you're gonna go with
curious
neither has super
look at him
You’re still a Seoul fan so your judgement is clouded
gaming
Watch Poko hog
Super hadn’t played Hog ever really and was the best
Watch Fury hog
So that’s a shit argument
He plays ranked the most 🤡
And tell me that there is an argument for them being equal
Hog meta cucked Paris Mayhem and Charge as well
And Dragons
Ranked and OWL are the same thing
Forcing Stand1 hog
He’s shit tho
Also karq to valiant thoughts?
Dragons had Void and Geguri, where’s the insults for them?
they made it to top 3
they had
very close games
against finalists
what did fusion do
embarassed
pounded to the ground
FunnyAstro mercy + Sado Kings Row flank
- cope
- still couldnt take a map with a super team
Fusions worst meta vs Seoul best meta
cope + seethe
Also it wasn’t a super team at that time because some numbskull behind the scenes decided to put Heesu as the permanent widow during playoffs
And have Carpe as the tracer one trick
Oh yeah Dragons Paris Charge and Mayhem were all dogshit I forgot
My bad!
You’re ignoring the question flat out
What other meta, on an individual level would Seoul best Fusion at in 2020
easily pound
In:
the dps gap is too big
Did your mother drink or smoke when she was pregnant
Because you say that as though Carpe Ivy Heesu EQO wasn’t top 3
The whole conversation is about the past, and you’re acting like Fits Profit is the god of dps after one lucky meta and a season of apac gatekeeping
Show me Countdown Cup 2020
cope
Back up your argument with facts instead of insults you brainless beetle
please dont insult lebron and comparing what he's done to a roadhog playoffs patch
they looked like second best coming into the playoffs
“cope” 🤓
They were second best or fifth best in apac depending on the day of the weak
they were the second best because of gesture hog
Saying seoul was the 2nd best apac team s3 is like saying justice was top 3 in NA
In s3
Dude just talk about a team you don’t have any unrelenting bias towards
Just because you suck off a player during your daily milkings doesn’t make than factually the best
Fabulous take from the Yank Hurricane fan
One of the greats if you will
they werent the second best apac team in s3
they were the second best going into the playoffs
And second best in playins
Justice 3rd NA
Same argument you’re making
Must’ve just been their raw skill that caused that to happen
They would’ve easily rolled Paris Valiant and Mayhem in any other meta
No doubt
justice played very well
they used their strengths
put decay on zarya
respect
its called using your brain
hey hog is good maybe we should try playing hog - never thought of it says fusion coaches
I’m sure Justice would’ve made 3rd NA with Decay on dps instead of zarya
Because their roster is simply that talented
u never know
the results says justice is third
at the end of the day hakeem olajuwon won the championship as the 6th seed
haters gonna hate
The results also say Fusion has a 1st place win
regular season warrior
On liquipedia
Just like every other team
Y’know Levy, for a guy who claims to be smart you are not living up to your reputation
i am unfortunately
:yikes:
So
Seoul fans
Have less tournament wins than Fusion fans
Never thought I’d see the day
i feel so bad for you guys
damn
you guys are down so bad
you consider a play-in win as tourney
sadge
things have gone downhill since alarm
Liquipedia does
😔
nah fuck of
tournament wins 
im not obsessed with first places
im proud of what my team has accomplished
shame
cope
hold the L
"best regular season team" comes in fourth
They got 2nd overall for that too
Can’t even get your information straight
What an unreliable source!
they still lost in the head to head matchups iirc
No because in the head to heads shock won 3-1
Bozo
I can actually feel myself getting stupider trying to reason with you
Didn't know it was possible for you to become stupider
and head to head seoul won against fusion 1-0
It’s like a headache and a massage at the same time
Weird massages you're getting bro
In a fucking luck based meta you snorlax cupping chump
dragons would've won 2020
Afraid that in every matchup Fusion beat Seoul or equalise them
head to head matchup
1-0
2020 Carpe = peak Fits 2020 > bad day Fits 2020
Get your Mickey Mouse meta bullshit out of there
why did he get benched by heesu
who got pounded by fits
on widowmaker
not hog
widowmaker
Because Fusion coaches decide every year “hey let’s make Carpe a tracer one trick, surely it’ll work this time”
cope
Thinking too far ahead vs Shock
get better coaches
You had fucking Changoon
Do not speak a word to me about coaches
I can actually feel the brain cells leaving my head
This must be what twitter users feel
at least my coach thought about using hog properly
first actually
we may have played double bubble during double shield
Your coach abused a luck based meta
Please show me your success in 2021 where there was no such luck based meta
And when you had a near identical roster to 2020
the coaching staff was just good in that period
they made some good reads
doesnt change the fact that he's bad
unfortunately
?
I mean
You admitted yourself
made 1 more hawaii than fusion 
i just said success in the playoffs doesn't mean success next year
Marve1 off sigma is mid
fusion made playoffs though 
because changoon is bad
Gesture is worse than Mano (what)
So in a non hog meta what would Gesture play?
u scapegoat mano
depends what the meta is
actual dumbass over here
Tracer sombra monkey dive with ana brig
That’s not what I was referring to
Let me elaborate
Who would win in that 2020 meta scenario
Or perhaps
i dont live in what-ifs
Double shield double sniper
i live in the present
in the now
no dwindling on the past
thats loser behavior
#sigmagrindset
I’m afraid that’s the incorrect answer
It would appear you are not as knowledgeable as you claim
Sad!
sans more like dumb idiot
Addi more like JJoNak not in Seoul
Please go to twitter where you belong
cant get over something that happened october 2020
Can’t stop spreading intentional misinformation about October 2020 so someone has to counter it
i only speak truths
facts such as seoul pounded fusion to the ground
“Profit ashe is better than Carpe ashe”
another truth by me
If you’re being unironic
Because at this point I’ve lost the ability to differentiate irony
You have the single dumbest takes out of anybody in this entire channel
talking pretty big
Including Ian Uvalo and Kungarna
coming out of the mouth of #1 worst takes in #esports-discussion
while im easily top 3
😌 ✊
At least my takes aren’t fuelled by bias of a team I like
You don’t see me rating Fusion above 5th apac because Carpe got a funny 4K vs Boston in 2018
sans takes are just bad
profit rolled carpe
however!
carpe is better than profit at ashe
mmm
disagree but i respect your opinion

Remember the time 2018 Fusion coaching decided to roll with Hotba Poko Sado triple tank in the finals?
And flexed Hotba onto zen
i thought hotba was good player
hotba is flex god
Almost as flexible as me
MN3 third best hitscan in apac
I almost got sans to admit in better than shadow burn on genji
mmm between him and shy
Yet Fusion still bottom 3
i can see the argument
i just know
ur list is brain dead
but ur right
on his placement
Don’t you have a main tank and flex support that aren’t in the league to watch vods of right about now?
only because injury
unfortunate
???
Depends where you rate Leave and Apr1ta on hard hitscan
Oh JJoNak and super
apr1ta's hard histcans abilities are very overrated
Investing in the SP9RK1E and SPACE stocks now
Apac hitscans are so good you can be leave and hyper flex but not be top 3 since you don’t focus on it
Come on man, my nan likes Sp9rk1e I don’t want him to retire
Sparpy boy
apac/na are even match at the moment
Apac is more stacked imo
2022 apac will assert dominance
2022 apac has 3 consistently good teams
And 2 teams that have a dark horse chance
But I don’t see Dragons Hunters or Spark giving up one of those slots anytime soon
Sans admit spark has at least a 15% chance of shitting the bed
valiant will be better than fusion
Read Levy simp for Changoon during Mickey mouse meta
- Miro Neko assistants
Worst case Changoon retires and Miro becomes head coach
Not even a bad scenario tbh
Since Miro would likely do the work for him
Like how Unter did all the work for Sephy on Reign
i mean overall head to head
for international tourneys
Is anyone here a doctor?
We do
And now that Fusion have the power of both Chara and Sungmin I’m all the more confident
im afraid nohill clears
Unless the ms diff between Lengsa and FiXa is bigger than Manos death count during the playoffs they lose
Lengsa and Diya deserve better tbh
Good players doomed to a bad team like MN3 and Zest
With nothing more than coach copium to keep them going
exhibit a: team cc
Like that
coach inspiration from dreams
chad
Exhibit dumbshit: picking up Sasin over Clestyn Gargoyle Attack Max F4ZE or DAI
Correct me if any of them are underage
I know Clestyn Gargoyle are eligible
you are pretending as if he is playing overwatch league manager
he cant pick up anyone he wants
I trust nohill to make the right decisions
valiant org reputation destroyed and he is on a budget
when you trust a coach you give him the benefit of the doubt
and he only had like 2 months of off season to get a team together
thank you for being the voice of reason

League minimum is 50,700
just like last year
Valiant are not budget this year
I would be willing to bet any of the tanks I named would be willing to take league minimum to be in OWL
they dont pay league minimum
have you been following
like
valiant news for the past year
jesus
🥶
If you have any proof of that for this year then I will believe it
But so far your credibility is non existent
yours is also non-existent
Like every ED user’s romantic partner
at least i have the fact that they dont pay league minimum last year to back it up?
idiot 😔
sad
yeah but do they have a visa ready to go to china?
just look at jfeel
DAI is already in China?
damn why didnt shock sign every best free agent
And has existing synergy with Lengsa
Yes they should have
If they did they would be #1 overall
maybe chengdu didnt want to part ways with him
reminder that hunters do not have a off tank in their roster yet
May I at least elaborate so it doesn’t sound too stupid please
League minimum like I said, $50,700
Midison and Guri-Joke aren’t worth 50p so they won’t have received more than minimum payment
nah
So why would Fuel management not put that $101,400 towards an insane hitscan, instead of two below average ones?
sans it looks like you are wide awake, we should engage in a kahoot
you're trolling if you think optic pays league minimum
that is a good question sans
why didnt the fuel just sign the whole shanghai roster after 2021?
they would have done well
You’re missing the point
MN3 was on the market
i think you're missing the point too
And Fuel didn’t take him
in a bidding war there is only one winner
end of the day the fuel is a company that wants to make money
And Fuel has “endless money”
they just diidnt see bidding for mn3 worth it
you're also trolling if you think fusion would let go of mn3 with only 100k
endless money doesnt matter
so does fusion
who's the more desperate one here
use your brain
a lot of OWL orgs are backed up by big enterprises with infinite money as you would say
Then why the fuck did they sign FiXa over Sanguinar
fusion needs mn3 more than dallas does
that does not mean they are willing to use that infinite money though
what
they already have carpe though
a competent hs
Dallas needs good hitscans tf you mean?
dallas have sparple carrying them on Doom tank
Fusion were doomed before it started if they went ahead with signing Fury and FiXa before the tragedy of November 8th
join kahoot no lie
How long will it take?
fusion is a way shittier team overall than dallas
fusion needs mn3 way more
where is this quiz?
That’s flawed logic
dallas knows they can survive without hitscan to some degree
correct me if am wrong
its the truth
No, fusion needs to renovate carpe's contract for another 3 years
Because Dallas is the team with more championship quality
they get first dibs
that doesn't make them more desperate than fusion
your argument is just
simply bad
lets take an example
cade cunningham on pistons
pistons are dogshit
Let’s not
of course they want to do everything in their power to keep cade
https://discord.gg/h6uh2Vd8 for code
its all they have
I was just proposing Dallas signing a good hitscan player instead of the jokes they signed
levy you should join
they would love an upgrade
but they're not more desperate than the pistons
lsd i have a hackathon i have to attend to
peace!
its literally like 5 min
you have time to argue for seoul
maybe i should do this later
with more people
lol
i have a question that is heavily deep into shanghai lore
specifically void
he did not murder tupac
if we do this rn
you two would know the answers if i were to do it again when actual people join
zzzz
memeicus has a based username
Site isn’t loading
banned in ur country L
Iamnso tired
Dear non existent lord it’s nearly 2 am
i hate how i have to use prio passes for support
Would you like a tip?
what
Go into find a group section
and lose because soloqing is better than stacking
It’s pretty much the same as playing with randos but with guaranteed vc
?
you think there are any 3900 players
using the LFG part
of OW
i have literally never seen anyone use the LFG service in game
Lock dps and as soon as the queue is about to start click change role and queue flex
You earn prio passes by playing dps
ive tried it doesnt work
Que pasa
Worked for me
Oh well
Time to make a futile attempt at sleeping without the server banishing me into exile like Bane in The Dark Knight Rises
the pasta
OWLEL
||Why would you guess Heesu and Finale when they were already answers?||
|| I thought heesu and although had already been answers ||
|| so I was omega confused ||
||then guess Although first||
||It's random every time. It wouldn't make sense if there wasn't repeat answers because then you could just eliminate all the previous answers and keep track of them on a spreadsheet making the game significantly easier||
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Yall suck at geography
Just like me
Lol
Justice sounds mid too but
Ya boy likes the underdogs
you were the one that said philadelphia was the closest to you
didnt question it because i dont know what a philadelphia is
@frosty patrol crusty was that you on thag mikeM account earlier
did ya rly lose access to your acc lol
No way someone told me it
Paris eternal
OWLEL 51
What are those town names or something?
yes
If that account ever becomes active again I’ve lost it again
YES!
NO!
Shocker
Crook’s take on this is awful
He’s a kid so like I’ll excuse it in this case
but come on crook
better takes please
Season starts in what, a month, and my teams down a support
yes
you’re going to trade the worst flex support in owl for another bad one
Is the new one going to be a nonce?
Both shit compared to landon and lukemino
So it’s an upgraded
I swear provide has a hit out on him
the second time hes gatekeeped himself out of owl
Well there goes londons season theyll have to settle on a washed english speaking fa or a fresh rookie to ow
As of this point I’d take anyone
take me
everyone left is a bap specialist lmfao
So thats 3-4 teams collasping (on paper) before the season
na moment
Accused of brushing
Nonce
he’s not a nonce for this one because the ages alone were legal
Might pop down to the recruitment thing and see if I can get in, not any good but at least I’m not grooming a 16 year old
the bad part is it was a special needs school 16 year old and he sent dick pics on the internet to her
I like how convient this is its always before the start of the season
He might still be as was over 18
He’s abusing a girl’s mental handicap for sexual pleasure, not a nonce
16-20 is legal in the UK
No it’s 16-18 iirc
He doesnt live in the us
As far as i know
Probably is in the us right of course to play the season which not gonna happen 
Actually UK is even more fucked up than US states
Once you turn 16 it's not illegal for someone to have sex with you no matter how old they are.
What the fuck
@candid radish
There are stranger countries when it comes to age legality its nothing shocking
Someone dm me the screenshots
Well the brain reaches adulthood or young adulthood at 16-18 and fully develops by 21 which is standard science but with the current generation who the fuck knows what adulthood is since there are still 35 years olds acting like children
Pay taxes= adult
just imagine
20 years old
literally
junior in college
talking to some 10th grader
💀 💀
prov1de's a disgusting waste of talent
Honestly he’s a good player but screwed himself over
Alexa play in the end by linkin park
there's no doubt he's a good player
Ikr
just an awful human being
Prov1de a good player?
I actually believed he changed 
It’s just he shoots himself in the foot by being shite and not learning from his mistakes
he’s a disgusting waste of worst starting flex support owl talent
He sucks compared to most
I was hoping he did
Well theres no one else in contenders not already signed or good enough to sign
Owl players
@agile minnow
Is there a good owl player that hasn’t been signed again
besides maybe mr boombox and kaan
Other than maybe kaan
Yeah
There is litterally no upgrade right now
Unfortunate
Especially a couple weeks before opening day
I’m just a boombox simp
May e they could get a non eu player
If he was exposed the moment he was signed
They could have signed skairipa
Who is slightly worse
its all about convencience johnny
You guys acting like if london had provide they would win anything
rupal, lukemino, or landon for being in NA are my 3 theories
Any good Asian left ???
They would win some games with him
0 without him
I know that’s vague
I wanted to give him a chance as well, now it just looks like we’re all idiots
london is not signing a korean especially since visas
Yeah I mean hypothetically if they were to sign an Asian player
comparing prov1de to the best is difficult because he is one of the best, which is why he is in owl. It's easy to say he's bad compared to others in owl but he still got to the top. It's a huge shame that he was compelled to say and do those horrible things
In ranked
Yeah either eu or Na
lukemino isn’t a bap one trick tbf
but all 3 I listed are bap one tricks on flex support
How compelled
what
You said he was compelled to say
Compelled as in not forced but his character was bad and that’s what compelled him
Who speaks english
Oh I see
There might be some
yeah that's more what I meant when I said that
simple is the best korean fs to pick up right now for london’s purposes
Oh I was confused for a sec sorry
He is underage
it's all good
Speaks English?
but they’re going for one of lukemino rupal exorath landon @twin bloom
IDk
But I would
I thought he was made to say them or someone or something made him oops
Assume so
God damn spitfire are scowering stoke on trent desperately looking for a support player
Fr
hopefully London can bounce back, any player will be better than prov1de as a teammate
Yeah
Even if they aren’t as good it will be better as structure and a team standpoint
idk who vanc r starting rn but maybe london snipe skairipa
Got the environment for them
as a teammate there’s worse ones
as a person no
you know what I mean
prov1de is the worst person, probably an okay teammate
there’s a big difference
Im playing bad guy
london doesnt recover its all up to shax ans sparkrr to work magic
Would you rather have a insane player but shite person or a average player but amazing person to be around
excuse me who is "we"?
Gonna need a sparkle like season out of shax
are they french?
I’d take the better person over the better skill player
latter
Sometimes you have to make deals with the devil

2 mediocre hitscan players
I love the sweet bittersweet feeling of being correct
Yeah it’s a weird choice
Shax mediocre? U might be right but i am offended 
Sometimes it bites you
shax is not even top 10 on his one trick
Shax gonna need to go back to Shax Valient type Shax
hell, probably not top 15
OG Pr🤮v1de hater
The funny thing is Valient might do better than London now
did it before it was cool
same
Serious question but why are you happy he ended up still being a shit person
I started the kungarnamykl is racist campaign over it
we’re 75% joking
It was already in the air if he was still the same he was a few years ago
74%*
74.26%*
Thing that made shax valiant so good was yes him but also a certain three sylaball man
because people like that simply do not change and it proves my point correct that he was still a shit person and a negative influence for Spitfire and OWL as a whole
Yeah Shax and Kai
mcgravy?
Packing10 probably
It was ksp
WE SHOULD ENGAGE IN A KAHOOT
Well theres ksp and ksf 
Aka Kai
But yea kai
so true
I’ll make an owl kahoot
I MADE ONE YESTERDAY
what kind of questions
let me finish stacking shit in Superliminal and I'll be right in
but not easy
ok
I zont have a laptop anymore 
JOIN KAHOOT
give me a moment
Maybe
L
in a game rn
Same
people are leaving because yall are so slow
i would've kahooted if i had the chance
wheres the kahoot my games over
I’m doing it later since I had to go
L
London redemption arc
Hopefully the police r gonna be involved
Wot did he actually do

Not suprised he was known for doing that when he was kicked from on Valiant back in the day

weeping rn
:(
I can’t believe it

Noooo

I'll never forget you birdring you legend
🦀 provide is gone! 🦀

Now we await new player
I mean he’s the only support I can think of
the only support you can think of?
boombox exorath lukemino rupal landon don’t exist?!
https://twitter.com/fei_yaaa/status/1512805218441785347 ? whats going on
Boombox boombox boombox
realistically they sign Exorath
unless they don't care about being all EU and sign Lukemino
prolly lukemino if he's in NA
Maybe

🗑️

Boombox Poko ChrisTFer reunion
can't wait for London to be like Funi except good
Rem?
Why does provide? talk like a 15 year old
You are insulting 15 year olds
i do not talk like that
I don’t think 15 year olds say “i want you to show my bulge uwu”
Trust me i talked like then when i was 15 and hairless 
we dont
So you go up to random strangers and ask them if they want to see your bulge?
Theese young kids kicks back in rocking chair you simply use uwu we walked in cringe and wore it with pride 
This chick emma really apologised to backbone and hadi for ruining there season
not like the season was gonna go well anyway with how stacked NA is
cuz shes friends with them
yea like sparkr is the one most fucked over since hes still riding that undefeated contenders hype wave
Sparkr made it kinda look promising
pogba the god
That'd be hype
Lukemino most likely. Not enough time to get someone a Visa
Hype straight from Winnie the Pooh himself
hotba tracer isn’t a meme
he’s actually a dps player
same with sasin sombra
Not with Hotba in the league
swap sean miller with tf2
no
The one relevant one two win
Philly about to beat SHD
Philly get second place after we roll everyone and nyxl beat them in a 1v1
the hunters and dragons have too much pride to team up so we are safe
same with glads and shock
Texans sleeper
dallas beat outlaws into submission
Invest on Canucks teams like Defiant
nyxl and philly would not team up
i think best districts are 4 5 and 8
11 is stacked
Provide gone
Boosted by me




