esports-discussion

[tropic herald]

True

[devout path]

BASED JAZZY

[tropic herald]

semi regular reminder that esports announcement coordinator is a role u can ask for in modmail

[devout path]

Ratio

[north relic]

wtf

[frosty patrol]

hello ED

password acquired

[cloud latch]

hi

[lavish dove]

A

[cedar oasis]

hello there mike you seem new here why dont you introduce yourself and say some facts about yourself

[frosty patrol]

My name is Mike, my favorite flavor of ice cream is mint chocolate chip, and I love apr1ta.

[devout path]

You have bad taste in ice cream

[cunning patrol]

3 Ls in one message

[violet turret]

The last one isnt an L

[last nimbus]

holy shit

owl players cant not touch children

[cunning patrol]

Shut up already 🤦

[violet turret]

Whats wrong with loving Apr1ta

[vagrant jacinth]

Jesus

[vale delta]

whats not wrong

[north relic]

if you ignore the deaths i carried sans

[vale delta]

not even 10kp10

[balmy wolf]

how long does ur arcade take for matching?

[sonic basalt]

Anyone know if there's like a custom spectator overlay that's free and downloadable for if you are casting?

[hot onyx]

it was a mutual carry, my sombra enabled you quite hard

[north relic]

cap

i solo dived

[hot onyx]

solo dive deez nuts

[supple prism]

Depends on the mode but usually 5 min

[hot onyx]

"don't go and get rid of your dick because I like it"

mentally deranged "human"

[tropic herald]

listen man the whole thread has red flags idk which message is worse

[frosty patrol]

It's like when LSD said he carried me in open q

but I mercy pocketed a 4.2 player

[north relic]

worst one was when he flamed dreamkazper and then he did the same thing

[frosty patrol]

so the 4.2 player carried me

not LSD

[tropic herald]

its like

[vale delta]

ok no

[hot onyx]

man is a talented beast

[vale delta]

you dont grt it

his old name was slur

[tropic herald]

hes aware but not enough to not do it

[vale delta]

like literally just slur

so it was slurkazper

it was dreamkazper and his alias combined

[hot onyx]

nothing wrong with liking trans women, but underage trans women

[north relic]

ok

but he still flamed him tbh

[vale delta]

emma hadnt come out at the time

[hot onyx]

oh ok my b

[vale delta]

thats why theres a little censored word in the first tweet

its her deadname

[hot onyx]

thaaat makes sense

what the fuck https://twitter.com/Emmaismental/status/1512491998955122692?s=20&t=6BxY7kLbFRCUgu081P9bFg

Emma (@Emmaismental)

how are you guys still defending him after those screenshots ?_? How delusional are you O.O

Twitter · Apr 8, 2022, 6:06 PM

[north relic]

someone help me make an owl jeopardy

[tropic herald]

there wasnt that many people but some of the quote retweets on some of the tweets r just awful people

[north relic]

prov1de still not dropped...

[tropic herald]

id imagine theres a whole process of stuff

bc hes in na

rn

[north relic]

didnt spark drop mcd

really fast

[tropic herald]

yea they did but tbf stream clip from that day vs discord screenshots on twitter

id imagine theres a little more being hashed out ?

idk

[vale delta]

a lot of spitfire players know emma

some of them were ex teammates with her

shes ex contenders

[tropic herald]

i know

im aware

[north relic]

emma was ex contenders?

[tropic herald]

yea

doggo

was their old ign if u dont remember

[north relic]

neat

[tropic herald]

flex supp iirc

[vale delta]

yes

[tropic herald]

they played for revival, angry titans, uprising acad

[devout path]

Racist chaser and pedo

[vale delta]

not really a chaser

emma hadnt come out yet

[devout path]

Oh

So racist and a pedo

[vale delta]

yh

[devout path]

That’s not much better

[vale delta]

not at all

[twin bloom]

He will be soon

[devout path]

There’s no way London will survive the public if they keep provide

[violet turret]

Soon

[north relic]

valorant player

[worn falcon]

Benbest

[balmy wolf]

mines been taking over 10 mins

[devout path]

Hot af

[hot onyx]

actually just a pedo because "he's changed"

[tropic herald]

need to teach people how to act

[devout path]

He changed from racist to a pedo

[tropic herald]

its crazy that theres been this many exposures and probably plenty more as just skeletons in closests

[devout path]

Redshell got exposed and people literally didn’t even care

[tropic herald]

didnt some level of rebuttal happen idr that situation at all but i dont like redshell either way

[earnest leaf]

yea I remember that not being a very straightforward situation

[hot onyx]

I follow absolutely nothing with Redshell so i am out of the loop

all I know is he is a mexican lucio one trick

[earnest leaf]

I read about it like two years ago so I don't remember really anything

[hot onyx]

hope he gets better 🙏

[vale delta]

he just said it was kinda fucked up that they did it when he had cancer

he beat it and didnt talk about it again

[cunning patrol]

Ratio

[tropic herald]

ok lets take the situation from the top

[devout path]

He is 20

[tropic herald]

if you are a major and you choose to talk to someone who is a minor

and you get sexually explicit

you are in the wrong

[devout path]

Dick pic to a minor

[vale delta]

belgium

?

whos talking about belgium

also age of consent ≠ adult/minor

[tropic herald]

oh yeah srry AoC is a really good metric for everything speaking

shouldve considered that

god if that isnt considered morally wrong in europe the culture is fucked

[vale delta]

pe·do·phile
/ˈpedəˌfīl/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: paedophile; plural noun: paedophiles; noun: pedophile; plural noun: pedophiles
a person who is sexually attracted to children.

to children

-18 is a child

[cunning patrol]

That is disturbing

[devout path]

That’s so disgusting

[earnest leaf]

Generally in America someone above 18 speaking to someone underaged in that manner is heavily looked down upon

[cunning patrol]

This is why Europe is the worst continent on planet earth

[final musk]

dude, it's a class thing... it's morally fucked if you've actually been educated and don't live in the boonies with all the weirdos.

[devout path]

He sent a dick pic

[cunning patrol]

Ur a weirdo

[tropic herald]

bc a 20 year old taking advantage of a 16 year old is morally right

[earnest leaf]

It's also the issue of two people in completely different parts of their lives, one is pursuing their career professionally, the other is barely in highschool

[final musk]

even europe has its West Virginias.

[tropic herald]

holy fallacy alert

[cunning patrol]

Who said that’s fine

[tropic herald]

just say ur wrong

[devout path]

When did any of us say shooting up a school is morally right

[final musk]

whataboutism, are you sure you're not Russian?

[vale delta]

stop changing the subject bro

[final musk]

it's an education thing, man... i keep saying it.. it's like when you say "Trump did X" to a Fox News viewer and they start with "but Biden..."

[vale delta]

a 20 year old dating a “mentally unstable” 16 year old (in her old words) is just morally incorrect

[final musk]

yup.

[devout path]

Not even dating

A Dick pic

[final musk]

Yup.

[vale delta]

it was worse than that

he asked for her nudes

which even under danish law is still child porn

and it probably still is in the uk

[devout path]

It is literally so messed up

[earnest leaf]

and European law doesn't matter there since Discord is an American company

[devout path]

I didn’t see that part

[vale delta]

and it would also be illegal in the uk The Sexual Offences Act of 2000 “prohibits a person in a position of trust from performing sexual acts with someone who cannot consent, which includes minors and ‘very vulnerable people.’” Special needs falls under this. Not only is it morally wrong and disgusting, it is in fact illegal.

?

[devout path]

I like to think I’m above being a pedo

[vale delta]

bro im probably the one that knows about the situation the most im close friends with emma

[final musk]

you're trying to justify a 20 year old fucking a 16 year old kid with special needs....

that is fucked.

[north relic]

who the hell cares if its consensual

[earnest leaf]

The 20 year old should know better not to pursue that person anyways

could the 16 year old have just blocked him and go next? sure, but it's on provide to not be a creepy fuck

[vale delta]

and dont come at me with provide didnt know she was special needs

emma literally told him

[final musk]

it can't be, buddy... what part of "16 year old with special needs" do you not understand?

[devout path]

It shouldn’t be the 16 yo with special needs’ responsibility to be the adult

[vale delta]

also this, its illegal in the uk (where provide is from) its illegal in denmark (where emma is from) and its illegal in the us

[final musk]

does she need to elaborate?

strongly disagree.

[devout path]

Why do you need to know someone’s medical history

[final musk]

right to privacy is more important.

[earnest leaf]

didn't they say they had adhd and autism?

[final musk]

exactly.

[vale delta]

and i quote “I AM AUTISTIC

I HAVE ADHD TOO

😭

I HAVE ASPERGEEEERS

AHAHAH”

[forest token]

why is being special needs relevant again

[final musk]

no man.... i am going guess your house is like at least 1 mile away from the closest other house...

[forest token]

isn't the primary issue the uh

age difference

[final musk]

it should be.

how old are you?

[forest token]

weird thing to tack on but also weird thing to need to have proven

[devout path]

Yes and the fact that being special needs means you literally cannot consent legally

[tardy haven]

20 year old and 16 year old together isn't wrong to you??

Oof your a pedo then bruv

[final musk]

a lot of things can be legal yet still be morally wrong. your argument is trash.

[forest token]

I don't know what is classified as special needs and I don't know why it would be brought up

when the age difference should be enough

[devout path]

Because of this guy

[forest token]

I saw barrier mention it first

not camembeire

[dawn rune]

we aren't defending or debating actions of nasty people

[devout path]

Responding to them

[dawn rune]

thats not what this channel is for

[earnest leaf]

If there's a fundamental disagreement on the age gap, nothing we say is gonna convince you

[dawn rune]

thank you

[vale delta]

you are literally defending provide

?

[devout path]

For committing a crime

[vale delta]

“its not a crime in my country” 🤓

[dawn rune]

lets not get back into it already

[devout path]

Cuz reminder it’s not in ur country

[dawn rune]

right after i said

things will be handled if need be 🙏 i promise

[vale delta]

jules i like you but im not going to let this guy defend a guy that groomed my friend

[tardy haven]

This guy is literally saying pedo shit and I find it to be disgusting and weird

[north relic]

take it to DMS then

[dawn rune]

yes and from a moderator standpoint i can absolutely take action but riling things up in here is not going to solve anything

[final musk]

easy... in modern society, a great deal of growth and maturity is gained by the time you turn 20. that maturity isn't there when you are in the middle of being a teenager (age 16) with a bazillion fucking chemicals making your brain into a disaster. a 20 year old who goes after a 16 year old is effectively being a predator.

[devout path]

Fine whatever

[dawn rune]

if there are concerns i would much rather prefer you to come speak to me in modmail

[plush grail]

from a non mod standpoint Jules smells

[dawn rune]

WHAT !!!

[vale delta]

^^^

[vale delta]

go back to seeing pictures of feet

[dawn rune]

thats from a mod standpoint too tbh

[plush grail]

Get fucked

[final musk]

those were example numbers from the situation, motherfucker, calm your tits.

[vale delta]

Would people still have gotten mad if the people didn't fly the planes into the twin towers but flew them to the actual destination? HM?

[final musk]

bitch you are citing laws as if they define morality

[vale delta]

youre chanigng it to a completely different argument

[final musk]

send me your law degree in a PM

[devout path]

Ok can we drop it and let Jules deal with it

[dawn rune]

zep was being slow

my apolocheese

[final musk]

afk now ❤️

[north relic]

what does zep do

[random magnet]

what is the bot gonna do

[devout path]

Mute

[vale delta]

he jus like u

[dawn rune]

the moderating so he does mutes and warns

[random magnet]

Oh

[dawn rune]

cant rlly do that if its slow/not working

[random magnet]

didnt know it did that

[north relic]

can someone assist me in making an OWL jeopardy

[dawn rune]

we do the commands that lets him do that yea

[random magnet]

make a kahoot

[north relic]

ok fine

[vale delta]

zep doing a jules cosplay

?

[random magnet]

LMAO

[tardy haven]

I mean is he gonna be banned? Because honestly if you scroll up he literally defeats pedo actions and say it himself that he doesn't think it's wrong

[north relic]

how many questions do you think is the best

[hot onyx]

age of consent here in the UK is 16 but legal age of adulthood is 18

[dawn rune]

I'll look into it further

[hot onyx]

old message next topic

[random magnet]

i would do one per OWL team that have relevant/interesting trivia plus maybe a couple general ones

[plush grail]

Sans ur 18 and can legally consent BUT U STILL CAN'T GET ANY BITCHES

[north relic]

one per OWL team?

wdym by that

[random magnet]

Like one question about some trivia for the specific owl team

[hot onyx]

turned 18 5 months ago + nan is better than bitches

bozo

[north relic]

i was thinking more just general questions

[forest token]

overwatch drama/controversy kahoot

[plush grail]

Your nan is pretty cool

[hot onyx]

+5 points for Undead

[random magnet]

that would work too, i dont know enough trivia about OWL to give a suggestion about how long it would be then

[north relic]

ok

im aiming for 20 then

[random magnet]

i was thinking team based like it could start rly easy with SF shock being "how many championships do they have"

and then mix in the general questions based on difficulty

[devout path]

How many map wins does Shanghai have

[north relic]

i wanted it to be hard

since we are all nerds

[devout path]

How many points have been captured since the beginning of owl

[twilit oriole]

Who’s we?

[random magnet]

fair enough

[random magnet]

oh god that would be awful to try and find out

[north relic]

everyone who regularly engages in a conversation in this chat (including you NERD)

[devout path]

How many rounds of control were played in season 2

[twilit oriole]

I only come here for jazzy

[north relic]

simp

[twilit oriole]

@potent trellis

[devout path]

JAZZY GOATED

[hot onyx]

I agree heavily

[twilit oriole]

Your nan aims better than you

[devout path]

What was objectively the best team in season 2

[north relic]

wrong jazzy dumbass

[devout path]

(Answer: titans)

[balmy wolf]

it was shock

[north relic]

they got 4-0'd

by shock

[balmy wolf]

they were always 1 or 2

[devout path]

Playoffs

[twilit oriole]

He’s laurloofan101

[balmy wolf]

even when shock lost they did great

[devout path]

Playoffs patch

[hot onyx]

My nan didn’t make it past the first half of the Overwatch tutorial so that statement is funny yet blatantly untrue and near slanderous

[balmy wolf]

overall best team in s2 was shock

[devout path]

Titans goats

[hot onyx]

Titans didn’t lose to Outlaws

[worn falcon]

best team rn is Defiant

[devout path]

So true sans

[hot onyx]

Plus Titans didn’t have a rapist

[devout path]

So true sans

Wait what

[final musk]

am i nuts to think LA Gladiators will likely be a solid team this season?

[devout path]

No

[balmy wolf]

no?????

[north relic]

bruh free kahoot only allows 1 image forever?

this sucks

[devout path]

Ans kevster space shu fastro goated

[hot onyx]

No, Glads #1 NA

[devout path]

Dallas #1 na

[balmy wolf]

i think dallas is #1 na

[north relic]

yes

[hot onyx]

Ah yes because Guriyo and Edison can match peak Ans 2.0

[devout path]

Ans more like washed

[balmy wolf]

glads probably will be like florida s4

[hot onyx]

And ChiYo can match Fastro and Skewed

[devout path]

Chiyo can match fastro

[final musk]

i mean... ans is probably going to be a bit benched.

[devout path]

Can space match fearless or hanbin

[balmy wolf]

no

[final musk]

space on the buffed dva seemed interesting...

as in...

[balmy wolf]

hanbin hard diffs space

like

not a contest

[final musk]

he was doing some cool shit on the ow2 demo

[hot onyx]

He did in the Summer Showdown knockouts

[worn falcon]

Glads have washed coaching

[final musk]

does NA even have a proper Ball player at this point?

[hot onyx]

But I agree there is a tank difference

[worn falcon]

Invest stonks on Defiant

[hot onyx]

But that’s all

[hot onyx]

Boy do I have news for you about that “Dpei” guy

[balmy wolf]

its a dps diff

[devout path]

Flex dps diff

[balmy wolf]

if pati isnt good

dps diff

[devout path]

Patiphan gets rolled by sparkle

[hot onyx]

Pat I won’t be good

[devout path]

Or doha

[hot onyx]

But Kevster

[devout path]

Wait for tracer echo meta

Glads r gonna suck ass in that

[hot onyx]

That’s the thing

Dallas are heavily meta dependant

[earnest leaf]

Glads wouldn't force tracer echo unless they felt ans was competent enough at tracer

[hot onyx]

As soon as Sp9rk1e or Doha ride that bench they’re done

[final musk]

that would likely make Dva the choice tank...

[earnest leaf]

Since you want kevster on tracer 10/10 with that dps line

[devout path]

Hanbin

[worn falcon]

who gonna play Tracer?

Kevster?

[hot onyx]

Name like 3 hitscans Edison or Guriyo could be better than

[worn falcon]

And echo?

Ans?

Pati?

[final musk]

sure, but still not going to an obvious loss

[devout path]

Pati has to play echo is kevster on tracer

[balmy wolf]

nyxl could probably beat glads

[devout path]

Hanbin is literally better than space on dva

[balmy wolf]

and shock could too

[hot onyx]

Agree

But the difference isn’t that large

[devout path]

The best part ab Dallas is they reworked orisa so fearless is even with the rest of the mts on orisa

[hot onyx]

Top 2 dva vs top 5 dva

Oh the misery of having a top 5 dva

[devout path]

Only top 5

[cunning patrol]

Badiators

[hot onyx]

Also Reiner can play ball and orisa better than Fearless

[devout path]

The biggest diff is literally kevster and shu

[worn falcon]

Smurf gonna beat everyone as Orisa player

or Gator

ew

[devout path]

Orisa is getting reworked so no and ball idk I haven’t seen Reiner play in a minute

But fearless ball actually good

[hot onyx]

Different region and show me who asked

[vale delta]

reiner has been playing doom in ranked

[plush grail]

Ur dumb

[devout path]

You literally have one good player

Please stfu

[vale delta]

9/10 games ive had him on my game have been him on doom

[worn falcon]

Glister?

[hot onyx]

2*

Glister Kaan

[devout path]

1

Kaan feeds

Dridro > kaan

[hot onyx]

So does Viol2t and he gets regarded as the goat of fs

[devout path]

Actually Jjonak the goat

[hot onyx]

Despite being a B tier ana

Actually Alarm the goat

[devout path]

Actually true

:(

Alarm :(

[hot onyx]

JJoNak the season 1-2 goat

Alarm season 3-4

[devout path]

Alarm season 3-4

[hot onyx]

Aimgod season 5-8

[devout path]

LOL

It’s actually gonna be bebe

[cunning patrol]

It will be vig

The goat

[devout path]

Actually gonna be creative

[worn falcon]

No, AimGod is the new goat support

[vale delta]

its definitely NOT provide

[worn falcon]

Carrying MN3

[devout path]

who?

[earnest leaf]

Gonna be finn

[north relic]

gangnamjin>>>

[worn falcon]

Tobi again

Coach player tobi

[north relic]

im putting too much effort in this kahoot

[next mesa]

hey hey

someone

give me

a million dollar app idea

right here right now right this instance

[north relic]

An app where there is free voice, video, and text chat that's used by tens of millions of people ages 13+ to talk and hang out with their communities and friends. People would use this app daily to talk about many things, ranging from art projects and family trips to homework and mental health support.

[next mesa]

so discord

alright keep them coming

[north relic]

potato

[twilit oriole]

Fr

[earnest leaf]

defiant mid

all they got going is a good support line

not enough to carry a team of mid

[hot onyx]

Above average off tank, top 5 main tank and heavily stacked dps duo when Finale is benched

What’s not to like?

[plush grail]

Above average off tank who

Hotba???

Above average???

[earnest leaf]

I wouldn't put muze top 5

[vagrant jacinth]

Lol

[hot onyx]

8th last season is above average

[earnest leaf]

Not when it's a single tank now

[hot onyx]

And with the retirements of Lateyoung and Choihyobin he is higher

[plush grail]

Because his team finished 8th does not mean hotba is 8th

Choi retired??

[earnest leaf]

and even for MT only I wouldn't put him top 5

[plush grail]

Didn't he join Dallas????

Wtf

[hot onyx]

They finished 7th actually

[plush grail]

I'm gonna finish first

[hot onyx]

And Mano finished 8th

[earnest leaf]

they went 9/7 with a 31-31 map record

pretty mid to me

[hot onyx]

Show me where I’m rating that feeding fuck 8th

[plush grail]

Sans shut up

I used to be a nyxl fan

I know how much Mano hotba sucks

[hot onyx]

Fury finished 7-8th

Doesn’t mean I rate him top 10

[plush grail]

Paris eternal #1

[hot onyx]

He was on the same level as Crong and Kalios last season

Literal truth and no coping

[north relic]

i have finished the kakoot

16 questions

[hot onyx]

If I was coping I’d say Fury is an upgrade the same way Marbel is coping about Reign downgrading 4/5 roles

[north relic]

kahoot now or some time tomorrow

[twilit oriole]

Deal with it

They are better

Top 4NA

[earnest leaf]

the highest I would put them is 6th

[twilit oriole]

Behind who

[earnest leaf]

shock/glads/outlaws/reign/fuel

[twilit oriole]

Not reign or outlaws, reign are gonna flop cuz they don’t have any good coaching, and outlaws are shit besides pelican lol

They didn’t even bother going for a MT or MS

What is piggy can do

[earnest leaf]

reign beats them at dps/tank easily

[north relic]

ah yes piggy iris danteh merit is shit

[earnest leaf]

support I would probably lean towards defiant

[twilit oriole]

Fs

[earnest leaf]

Outlaws have the better dps and a pretty close support line, piggy is a question though so we'll have to see there

[north relic]

defiant hard gapes outlaws support line

[twilit oriole]

Piggy- sigma OTP
Mer1t-good
Lastro-okay
Iris- good
Danteh- not good

[north relic]

i prefer outlaws dps by a long shot

[earnest leaf]

nah not a hard gap

iris is pretty fucking nutty

[twilit oriole]

Lmao okay

[north relic]

i take twilight over

[twilit oriole]

Twilight and chr0n0g wipe them

[earnest leaf]

lastro if he goes back to his s3 form will be plenty

[north relic]

and chorong is rlly good

[north relic]

piggy- not sigma otp
merit- good
lastro- ok
iris- great
danteh- good

[twilit oriole]

Toronto have one of the best support lines in the league, houston aren’t even close

[north relic]

toronto are fucked if it isnt traditonal MS FS is the only concern

[twilit oriole]

What else was piggy amazing at

[north relic]

piggy zarya and dva

are good

[twilit oriole]

It was avg

Sometimes below par

[earnest leaf]

Issue with his dva is just that his sig was super good

so it made his dva look bad, even when it was above average

[north relic]

also piggy is known for his zarya isnt he

[twilit oriole]

Bro what

[north relic]

before OWL

[north relic]

shock that high still

[twilit oriole]

Seek Allah

[earnest leaf]

cmon boston isn't that bad

striker will do a miracle

reign over seoul

don't tell levy

[north relic]

i think that justice titans isnt a tier break

3rd tier are all interchangable tbh

[twilit oriole]

You need Allah more than him

[north relic]

my tier list is best

[cunning patrol]

People still think spark are good

[vagrant jacinth]

Valiant and shock too low I think

[cunning patrol]

This is why I hate reinforce

[willow tartan]

ah yes reinforce the hangzhou spark team owner

[cunning patrol]

He has more faith in them than the owner does

[willow tartan]

i mean spark is gonna do just fine

like a good team that doesnt make any tournaments

thats my impression

sort of like shock/seoul in 2021

[tropic herald]

https://www.twitch.tv/saudieleagues

[hot onyx]

Based Titans > Fusion enjoyer

[hot onyx]

Incorrect sadly as Spark are top 3 apac

[willow tartan]

yes and there are 2 tournament slots

[tropic herald]

the things i personally value for a team being good line up pretty well with the shocks current roster

[hot onyx]

Actually for mid season there are 4 apac slots and 6 NA slots

[tropic herald]

they are the implode team in na this year

[willow tartan]

is it the same for the playoffs?

kinda cringe if the midseason tournament is a bigger tournament than the playoffs

[hot onyx]

No idea

[willow tartan]

imagine if one team won midseason and another won playoffs

who is actually the champion

sounds terrible to deal with

[hot onyx]

Well y’see

According to Shock and Seoul fans

Playoffs are all that matter

So playoff winner is champion

[willow tartan]

yeah but midseason is the exact same as playoffs

right?

[hot onyx]

Whatever you do, do not quote me on this

Yes

But I will have to look up the formatting again to be sure

[willow tartan]

I dont think they revealed playoffs format

but assuming its same as last year then its literally smaller than midseason

we already know its 2 from NA and 1 from APAC for last chance quals in countdown cup

[north relic]

reign is in a fair place

glads should be a little higher

[twin bloom]

Atlanta is better than glads

And ATL is top 2

In NA

Region

Glads would be

If they

Had good dps

Yes

Only him

No he isn't

Sadly

Shock ATL my top 2

Cause propah

And Ojay UV

Goats

This is Mah Updated Pr

[cunning patrol]

This is the problem with people who are biased to North America

[white berry]

yo why the FUCK is valiant not at the bottom deepest darkest pits of ranking hell

put it in its place

[twin bloom]

People

Who think

Coaches

Can work miracles

[willow tartan]

they can

[cunning patrol]

Nohill is good

But valiant team

Just sucks

[tropic herald]

[cunning patrol]

Inno sucks

[willow tartan]

if coaches aren't important then explain to me the hangzhou situation when they changed coaches like 3 times in one year

[cunning patrol]

Coldest sucks

Sasin sucks

[twin bloom]

Innovation is KR shax

[cunning patrol]

Agree

[twin bloom]

Very washed

Tracer

One play

[cunning patrol]

Agree but he has other heroes in da pool

Becky C tier at best

[twin bloom]

So did shax at one point

[cunning patrol]

Unfortunately

[twin bloom]

Before londone

Ruined him

[cunning patrol]

Yeah

Sad

[twin bloom]

Also I only put glads top 3

Cause heavy bias

Their dps

[cunning patrol]

Suck

[twin bloom]

Will prevent them from being

[cunning patrol]

Fuel are better

[twin bloom]

Above top 5

Imo

Top 6

At best

As of now

[cunning patrol]

Ok personally

I believe Patiphan is a talented playa

But I do not think

[twin bloom]

he is already bettor than ansan

[cunning patrol]

He will be closed to good enough

[cunning patrol]

Yeah

[twin bloom]

Glads sadly

May be gatekeeper

Team

[cunning patrol]

Very upsetting they

Sign so many superstars

Astro

Shu

Unter

Kevsta

But still

[twin bloom]

A Tank

Playah

As well

[earnest leaf]

Based power rankings

[cunning patrol]

Reinah

Is good too

[twin bloom]

Agree

[cunning patrol]

It is sad that

They didn’t sign good hs playor

If they signed

Mn3

They would be #1

Easy

[cunning patrol]

Not bad in my opinion

Except Boston

Slightly lower

[earnest leaf]

I think if ans is able to flex to at least stuff like reaper/symm/hanzo/sombra glads will be ok

[willow tartan]

i think early on reign will be better but glads will get warmed up in the latter half of the year

[next mesa]

Exchange Spark and valiant and that's pretty based 😌

[willow tartan]

outlaws has jake mercy so that is a big question mark

[cunning patrol]

Untrue

Valiant suck

[earnest leaf]

imo outside of top 3, apac is kinda up for grabs

[willow tartan]

yes

it is

[earnest leaf]

I'm not too knowledgeable on who they all got, so take below chengdu with a grain of salt

[willow tartan]

below chengdu is fair

seoul/chengdu/shanghai are the teams that are on paper better

[north relic]

ii put chengdu above seoul

[willow tartan]

i would too

[north relic]

also valiant 4th apac

[cunning patrol]

Is wrong

[north relic]

is ludicrous levy

[cunning patrol]

They suck

[next mesa]

trust

[willow tartan]

they are gonna be 4th because levy made a bet with sans about it

[north relic]

sans win a bet challenge

[balmy wolf]

i feel like outlaws is always too high up

the only thing thats good about them is their dps line

piggy is really good at sig

but thats all

[tropic herald]

when speedily is of age reign r gonna be scary

[willow tartan]

he's not gonna be of age until the playoffs

[north relic]

iris and piggy are both solid good pieces

[willow tartan]

ive just discredited any chance of speedily getting major playtime

[twin bloom]

Thats false info

He plays mid stage 3

[willow tartan]

stage 3 is in august???

[twin bloom]

MiD STAGE 3

Not beginning of stage 3

[next mesa]

he will never

[twin bloom]

He plays 3 games in stage 3

And every game stage 4

[willow tartan]

well

stage 4 is qualifiers anyway and theyre probs already qual'd to playoffs

if they arent at that point then atlanta is already down in the dumps

[tropic herald]

im gonna be so sad if the kid is washed when he comes of age, theres no reason to believe that will happen but if it does man

[willow tartan]

idk i mean speedily is a nice addition

but i feel like it wont really matter in the big picture for atlanta

if they were doing good they'll do better, but if they were doing bad it's not gonna stop the bleeding

[hot onyx]

Did your mother snort coke when she was pregnant

[tropic herald]

any kr contenders cultists able to tell me their thoughts about guriyo

[hot onyx]

Not even a top 5 hitscan in kr tendies

[twin bloom]

KR logix

[next mesa]

mid

[twin bloom]

AKA not a good playah

[willow tartan]

going to be benched by sparkle doha anyway

[hot onyx]

Man got hard diffed by MN3 one time

[twin bloom]

He is bettor than dogha

Sadly

[willow tartan]

nah

[twin bloom]

Sp9rkle edison

[willow tartan]

dallas coaches are gonna stick with sparkle doha

[twin bloom]

Will be the duo

[hot onyx]

A lot of people got diffed by MN3 but Guriyo vs MN3 wasn’t even remotely close

[tropic herald]

do "aimcheck hitscans in hawaii" ha

[willow tartan]

what?

[tropic herald]

i swear that man would aimcheck whichever hitscan he was facing in hawaii

as echo

[hot onyx]

Funny how Fuel management watched T1 vs TDI and said to Rush “hey this kid looks pretty good” so Rush agreed thinking they were referring to MN3

[willow tartan]

oh

doha

[tropic herald]

and just get obliterated

[willow tartan]

i thought you were saying do aimchecks

[hot onyx]

I’m just saying Doha was consistently on a top 3 team with Jecse by his side

Only so much carrying 4 players can do

5 players however are capable

[tropic herald]

ok so

basically

hanbin is worth like 50 jecses

so

yeah

[hot onyx]

That’s generous

[willow tartan]

how many jecse's is a funnyastro?

[hot onyx]

At least 30

Can I ask

Would anyone have faith in Fuel during a double hs meta

Where Edison Guriyo are fielded

[willow tartan]

i have some faith

[hot onyx]

Wrong

[twin bloom]

Dallas has an infinite budget

Why sign

A budget HS

And a mid HS

[hot onyx]

Two budget hs*

[willow tartan]

because the coaches see something in him

[hot onyx]

Calling Edison mid implies he is better than at least 7 hitscan players in the league

[willow tartan]

anyways what i am saying is even if the meta doesn't favor dallas i feel like they will still do alright

they wont be the best team

but they'll still be up there

[hot onyx]

They’d still be top 5

[willow tartan]

like summer showdown

[twin bloom]

Edison still has potential dude had to play flex dps cause erster sucked s3

And got benched

By kai

HS

[hot onyx]

You could have MyKaylee Krystal and still be top 5 during double hs meta and still be carried by Hanbin Fearless ChiYo Fielder

[hot onyx]

Ok in NA name hitscans that are worse than Edison

Because every single apac hitscan is better

[willow tartan]

viol2t

[hot onyx]

Viol2t is fdps

[willow tartan]

he played cree

[hot onyx]

Did you not watch his echo

[twin bloom]

He is bettor than ans glister shax

For sure

[willow tartan]

whos the HS for toronto?

[twin bloom]

You can debate he is better than heesu

Aspire

[hot onyx]

Heesu

[twin bloom]

Sparkr

Hydron

[hot onyx]

No the fuck you cannot

[hot onyx]

No

[hot onyx]

Equal at best case scenario

[twin bloom]

I thought you thought he was shit

Lol

[hot onyx]

I never said he was shit

I said he was overrated

Big difference

[twin bloom]

MAh bad

[hot onyx]

Like saying Fits rated as a top 3 hitscan is overrated

Doesn’t mean I think he’s a bad player

Or rating Viol2t in top 5 last season is overrating him

Doesn’t mean I think he’s bad

[north relic]

KAHOOT WHEN

[hot onyx]

Just that he’s rated unnecessarily high

[hot onyx]

It is midnight and I don’t want to fall asleep halfway through hooting

[north relic]

"i need to sleep at 10 so i can wake up at 6"

its only like 15 questions

[hot onyx]

Nan complications

Plus I wake up at 7 now

New routine

[north relic]

you told me 6

[hot onyx]

I did

Until I was told afterwards that I didn’t need to be awake until 7

[north relic]

guys i got the best player NA with me

[hot onyx]

Take zen off him

[willow tartan]

he is the mother of plats

[north relic]

i went brig since im such a nice person

[willow tartan]

did you ask him when he's getting signed to london spitfire

[hot onyx]

Ask his thoughts on the Toronto Defiant

Actually no do Memeicus question

It’s funnier because of inappropriate timing

[hot onyx]

Better than Shax off tracer and better than Ans if he plays like last year

But Ans has Face Smash and Unter

[next mesa]

he is

#2

also

how is edison

worse than ans

by any chance

[hot onyx]

Oh goodie another Levy tangent

[hot onyx]

He isn’t

[next mesa]

sometimes i forget you're not smart

my bad

[willow tartan]

o valiant

adjusting my power ranking

[hot onyx]

Intellect is subjective yet yours possesses more objective delusion

[north relic]

levy valiant #4 take makes sense now

[willow tartan]

he has information

[plush grail]

Ur all losers

[next mesa]

u guys dont know what i know

[hot onyx]

You’re awake at 1:15AM

[next mesa]

i dont blame u

[hot onyx]

Levy

[next mesa]

sans

[hot onyx]

We know that you rate teams higher based on your subjective preference

[next mesa]

unfortunately just not the sharpest tool in the shed

[hot onyx]

It’s not a secret

[next mesa]

my takes and rating are purely objective

fact: fits is #2 hitscan

fact: valiant will be good

[hot onyx]

Fact: Fits is an excellent hitscan when he decides to be consistent

Held back by Profit though

[next mesa]

fact: he is, you dont watch his games unfortunately

[hot onyx]

I watched him dominate Mano twice

And I also watched them get dps diffed by Carpe EQO

twice

[willow tartan]

i hope that chengdu/seoul play up to the dragons next year so we can get some epic competition

[hot onyx]

Inconsistency

Actually that’s a lie

Carpe Rascal once

[next mesa]

when

never

[cunning patrol]

fits has never once been the problem

also fits >

[hot onyx]

Agree

[cunning patrol]

anyone but lip

[next mesa]

thank u jazzy for being the voice of reason

[next mesa]

someone smart

sans look at jazzy

[willow tartan]

on what

[hot onyx]

Disagree

[willow tartan]

sombra?

sure

[next mesa]

look at yourself

[willow tartan]

widowmaker? no

[next mesa]

:yikes:

widowmaker fits is better than lip

[cunning patrol]

the only players even close to fits

[hot onyx]

Shy

[cunning patrol]

na

[hot onyx]

Better

[cunning patrol]

lol

[next mesa]

shy isnt even that close to fits

[cunning patrol]

at no heroes

is that true

shy was abysmal on sombra

[north relic]

im getting close

[cunning patrol]

his hanzo sucked

[north relic]

to GM

[cunning patrol]

fits is the better cree

ashe is arguable

widow is fits

[willow tartan]

lip better ashe

he gamed hard

[hot onyx]

Shy had Architect

[cunning patrol]

nobodys talking about lip

[hot onyx]

At least Profit had good days

[willow tartan]

what you mean

[cunning patrol]

dont care his sombra sucked on an individual level

[hot onyx]

Show me a good Architect match in 201

[willow tartan]

you were saying he is 2nd best behind LIP

[cunning patrol]

like i love how u use the argument

[willow tartan]

and i say that depends on what hero

[cunning patrol]

for teams

for shy

but not flora

[twin bloom]

Not impressive

[cunning patrol]

its so delusional lmao

[hot onyx]

Still got taken to 5 maps

[cunning patrol]

dawg got reverse swept lmfao

dudes hanzo got

DICKED

by eileen (the goat)

his tracer underperformed multiple times

[hot onyx]

Carpe hanzo was bad

Doesn’t make him a bad player

Your point?

[cunning patrol]

na its just another hero

fits is much better at

lmao

[chrome bane]

pine solos

[next mesa]

fits better

[cunning patrol]

fits ashe is prolly the 2nd best in the world behind lip

[next mesa]

would've been this season

[cunning patrol]

mn3 is arguable

[next mesa]

if we had jjonak

[north relic]

Very impressive

[hot onyx]

Once again overrating a player that either matches Lip or matches Eileen

[next mesa]

we dont have jjonak so no

[willow tartan]

chengdu has apr1ta

[next mesa]

agree

[cunning patrol]

shy is literally just worse lmao

like theres no other way to put it

his hanzo is worse by a lot

his sombra is worse by a lot

his cree is worse

[hot onyx]

Then you don’t watch him

[cunning patrol]

his ashe is close

i do

[hot onyx]

Man is a nutcase

[willow tartan]

man what about birdring or kai

[cunning patrol]

nobody said he wasnt good lmao

[willow tartan]

come on

put some respect

[hot onyx]

You simply choose not to see it due to personal bias towards Fits

[cunning patrol]

you have not provided one argument

except "team diff"

lol!

[next mesa]

fits has anamo and gesture on his team

[cunning patrol]

at least he could match eileen

[next mesa]

at least spark has guxue

[cunning patrol]

and not get

fucking rolled

🤣

#eileenontop

[chrome bane]

cyx better

[hot onyx]

Shy had Architect Bernar IDK and MCD/Coldest

[cunning patrol]

he doesnt break top 3 hog player on the north american ladder

💯

[next mesa]

ok and? you're not doing yourself any favor

idk>bernar

[hot onyx]

Heavy mismanagement, coaching staff musical chairs and 4/6 players on your team being bottom 3 apac does that to a mf

[next mesa]

idk>anamo*

[cunning patrol]

notice how

eileen dealt with all of those

🤣

[next mesa]

toyou only slightly better than bernar

[cunning patrol]

and still dicked him

[next mesa]

mcd is better than creative

[hot onyx]

Anamo sucks but no

[cunning patrol]

like literally fits is just better

[next mesa]

anamo is bottom 3 ms in the league easily worse than idk

[cunning patrol]

bru has shown insane widow peaks

[hot onyx]

Won by the skin of his teeth in a 5 map special

[cunning patrol]

his ashe has popped in multiple games

[hot onyx]

Funny

[cunning patrol]

again

team game

[next mesa]

fits best widow peak

[cunning patrol]

lmao

[hot onyx]

How you say Eileen dicked Shy

[cunning patrol]

fits also consistently forced cree

[hot onyx]

Once

But ignore the times he rifled Flora

[cunning patrol]

cuz he did

[hot onyx]

Twice

[cunning patrol]

he didnt

lol

[hot onyx]

Alright bud

[next mesa]

fits just better

sans you're a fits hater just because

you have a personal agenda

stop being subjective

[hot onyx]

Just because y’all dislike chinese talent doesn’t mean you gotta take it out on me

[cunning patrol]

LMFAO

ur a weirdo

[next mesa]

just accept it

ur really trying to play the chinese race card to a chinese

[cunning patrol]

this guy couldnt prove one point

[next mesa]

weirdchamp

[hot onyx]

I’ll accept it when I see it

Accept that

[cunning patrol]

and just says chinese

[next mesa]

u cant see it

ur fucking blind

[hot onyx]

Can’t prove shit against brain damage

[cunning patrol]

thats so ironic

considering u have the worst takes in this discord

[hot onyx]

My takes aren’t even bottom 3

[cunning patrol]

they are

[willow tartan]

man we have a lot of people with worst takes

[hot onyx]

Uvalo whomegaluled MN3

[cunning patrol]

uvalo is a dirty casual

u put effort into ur takes

just to spout braindead shit

[willow tartan]

worst take is still mike thinking EU contenders stands for European Union contenders. nothing can beat that.

[hot onyx]

Just because I have an opinion doesn’t make it right

[north relic]

competitive esports discussion user

[hot onyx]

But yours is so much worse

[cunning patrol]

Lol!

[hot onyx]

Fits fans are worse than Carpe fans ever were holy moly

[cunning patrol]

cope 🤣

[hot onyx]

Provide an argument instead of laughing emotes

[cunning patrol]

bro

ur argument

was pulling the chinese card

LMAO

[hot onyx]

My argument

[willow tartan]

shy was mismanaged by the hangzhou coaches

[hot onyx]

Was that Shy took Fits to 5 maps with an inferior team and coaching staff

[cunning patrol]

still lost

L

[willow tartan]

and will continue to be mismanaged into 2022

[hot onyx]

And you claim he got dunked

Which he did not

[cunning patrol]

did u watch his sombra lmao

massive sombra gap

massive hanzo gap

widow gap

ashe is debatable

cree gap

[willow tartan]

fits second best sombra for two years

[hot onyx]

“Hey bro did you watch Pelican sombra that guy was dogshit”

[willow tartan]

yeah honestly

[cunning patrol]

what

[willow tartan]

sparkle echo/tracer diffed

pelican tracer/sombra diffed

[twilit oriole]

Heesu🚬🔥>>>>