#esports-discussion
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support is not equal you numbskull
Jake is a flex so he'll go into any position needed
tank ga9a is slightly better IMO, but sure you can say piggy is slightly better
All 4 of the Hunters supports š¤
He isnāt a player
dps arenāt even because apr1ta fucking snaps mer1ts neck
Iris is equal to MMonk and Farway diffs Lastro hard on their one tricks
Numbskull
Yes he is
Hunters support better mer1t > jimmy
piggy only can play sig really good
He literally isn't
š¤ nope
dva and zarya not gud
yeah but Danteh is better than BaconJack
Mystary with more shit takes!
:(
Hunters diff outlaws on support, they have an edge on dps, and Iād argue an edge on tank but sure
Piggy dva zarya arenāt good
False
Oh just looked at it he gave up on his flex position a few days ago
calm down lsd, he's still salty about how Piggy diffed his favourite off tank twice
Let it be known
his dva is literally 21st in stats
If given the chance Dink would blow up the giant dam in China and kill hundreds of millions
probably true
he cannot do anything but look down on the Chinese
Actual racism
surely they are worse than Boston
Get it!!!! Because he doesn't support eSports Chinese Overwatch team!!!!! Get it, it's equal to terrorism š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
itās not racism, he properly rates koreans
who are clearly not known for bedshitting
The spark have decent coaches and a good team I think the Spark can pull off at least a winning record
Decent coaches?
Yeah Decent
Not good not bad
just enough to get them to top 3 apac
Spark have amazing players but management will fuck them over again
ga9a >= piggy
apr1ta > mer1t
leave >= pelican
yveltal/farway > lastro
mmonk = ir1s
Yeah if Jjonak doesn't return in time Spark will be 3 if he does return spark will be 4
Spark still 3 with JJoNak on Seoul
False
unless it's a double fs meta
False
Ehh I can see it going either way really
wrong
Dink your opinions have no value
I think Philly is gonna shit the bed this uear
how many APAC matches, korean contenders, and chinese contenders matches have you watched
Philly and Atlanta
no way they have future ROTY FiXa and the god of flex support Aimgod
easily better than Dragons
I can tell that's sarcastic lmao
philly smm doesnāt lie
your life is sarcastic
@gusty rampart
Heh
Most APAC matches of last year, a little bit of Chinese Contenders, not too much Korean Contenders
watch contenders before you say leave apr1ta jinmu isnāt better than mer1t pelican danteh
most apac, followed T1 O2 Talon and CC for kr, and followed BLG and Chaser for cn
apr1ta > mer1t
Debatable
I stanned chasers, followed those 4 for kr, and watched all non-valiant apac matches
Leave = Pelican and Danteh vs Jinmu is dependant on their cheese factors
apr1ta vs mn3 is debatable, but both are a tier above mer1t
If Hunters shit the bed (again) I can't wait to drink your tears
they last shit the bed in season 3
Season 4
oh damn 2 finals appearances and 4 tournament appearances is really shitting the bed
Better then yaki at everything except Tracer
show me Shocks finals appearances Dink
outlaws have shit the bed for all of owl except stage 1 season 1, stage 3 season 2, and the first half of last year
even semi finals are ok
Yaki isnāt a flex support
they were 3rd
2nd place constantly and being knocked out of playoffs relatively easy
Cope
shit the bed into 3rd place
their starting main support decided manga was more important
this team was supposed to be like mid apac
ended up 3rd overall
a whole lot of bed shitting there
Lmao thanks Yveltal for the $5
Hunters suck
Based
that's the equivilant of Viol2t deciding to quit OW for professional Gang Beasts halfway into the playoffs
I think Ive had too many correct takes about chengdu to the point that people become chengdu underraters to counteract it
thereās no argument for chengdu shitting the bed in s4 besides june joust
They probably would've won Kings Row against the Reign if he did that
alright here i was thinking you were a Viol2t simp
gj
JJoNak better
instead you are an enlightened FDGod Twilight enjoyer
Shu better
Based
good take
Forgot fielder
Fielder better
mmonk fielder better
vigilante better
Jjonak better than Viol2t?
finn better
I donāt think so
ir1s better
Kariv peaked higher
JJoNak at least wasn't the reason NYXL lost maps
Viol2t trolling at the beginning of a map in playoffs lost them the map
peak kariv is the best fs in the league
Mano trolled the whole season
š¤
Yveltal is good at game
hunters have another very good main support in the back though
But trolling playoffs huge no no
BeBe
Doha
bebe canonically gets up at 4 am
like unironically
same with closer
so theyāre ready to sleep by game time
sleep schedule diff
Sleep is for the week
BeBe will go from average to good on Shanghai
@north relic your favorite oq mercy player is going on vacation
I wonāt be around until the 17th
to duo
Gangnamjin just arrived in NY though
oq with gangnamjin?
Yes
we 3 stack when Iām back
I duo with him daily
actually 4 cause mag go dc
They all did I thought
NYXL went from like huge rosters to bare minimum amount of players
yaki was like 7ā7 500 pounds
I live with apr1ta, lsd lives in the nyxl facility, levy lives with fits
try winning a 5v6 as an off tank
Absolute chad
this is all canon
FUCK
What
WHO
Itās in the tweet
Pretty nice
Chara solo carries + still not Sado
unfortunately there is no double main tank meta
They also have jecse sanguinar gargoyle diem xzi
I thought they had Clestyn as well
could've sworn they had Ezhan instead of Diem though
Sans you saw the stats
if you rearrange the letters in the word "Faker" it spells out "Carpe"
Keraf
I saw playtime stats and I saw Mano get diffed by Yakpung
Hotba got diffed by your mother
what the fuck is a vestal?
There fixed it
Sans you are the anti vax version of an ow player
Cant accept the stats
unless my mother was hiding in Lateyoungs skin I don't think she played professionally
Uvalo you are like the flat earth version of an OW player
can't show the stats that back up your "facts"
I saw playtime and
Stop lying
hero percentage
We both saw it sans
Anti vaxxer
if this information is so true show the server
I bet you think God makes clouds huh
fun fact of the day: you are allowed to ask for esports announcement coordinater
your nan is literally kaneki though
can i be an esports announcement coordinator?
who do I have to ask
modmail
although its not guaranteeed
just thought i would note that its an open ish role
Lmao
@hot onyx we secured the bag
Sounds like a useless role
We donāt get announcements
Also since empathy has given us a fun fact of the day Iām expecting one everyday
Fusion stonks slightly up @hot onyx
you bet we did
8 ball is kind today
still not Sado
Sans is
@sly lagoon WTF
crusty is my ambassador
to be fair Empathy slander is based
empathy smells ewww
Shut up
!!8ball should sans get esports announcements coordinator
sadge
!!should sans get esports announcements coordinator
Don't count on it.
anyone know where the nyxl facility is
have you hid in the wrong house again
I fucked up setting up 2fa and now cannot access my main from my phone
anyway
apr1ta high A tier
dumbass
š
low intelligence
I have a friend right next to me saying that Vancouver titans are gonna be top 5 this year can someone help me spell this out to him?
average iq ed user
tell him to define outclassed and use it in a sentence
Thanks
Aspire is good I'll give them that and they have a good support line other than that they suck
More like you have worse takes than half the users
I imagine those two know how to set up 2fa without locking their accounts tho
so they've 1 up'd you really
Itās not that itās
google going
āwe cannot verify this email belongs to youā when I try to reset password
L bozo
Imagine
So true
lsd make a default profile account
hahahahahhahahaha
i also made one before
nah
Can't send images rip
but its deleted
Fuck you
ok buddy
- ratio
are you rank 34 open q
I forgor the login to main š
Just kidding suck my balls
r34 in open q š³
I actually did
L
this isnāt funny
It is
Iām laughing in class
777777777777777
I would mtd dink everyday
False
True
False
True
only one way to find out... š
True
True I guess
and dpsd
I shit on you with widow daily
i am cool
I am a regular if I remember my password
Better remember or you're back to square one
''please be edison and that new hitscan'' -uvalo
no proof
recorded
āplease be hanbin and fielderā -me
Anyone know what the meta is guna be?
no
The answer everyone has is no
Thats jecksay
If someone tells you anything else theyāre either lying or an owl person probably breaking NDA
Well as Aaron Kellerās third cousin
Tracer sojourn monkey lucio mercy is meta
Quote me
If I guess 5 heroes
It will be more impressive when it turns out to be correct
theres another mike?
He forgor his main password
haha what a dumbass
fucking idiot
i read the title im pretty sure its bait
it's fairly obvious that it's satire
yeah but it somehow sounds like something someone here would unironically say
lets not pretend that you're intelligent
ex professional supertf
???
haha okay bro
please
sure
stop arguing
go suck off your gf weirdo
????
I'm sorry I upset the idiot and now he's lashing out :(
Uprising gonna be worse than Spitfire
disagree
but better take than charge 20th
Boston gonna have a repeat of 2 years ago
they could be better than Paris if Paris end up being shit (they made no upgrades except glister)
I think they will be nearing bottom honestly
For me it all depends on glister
Toronto uprising Vancouver all made neat upgrades
So who exactly would they be better than other than Florida and London?
If Glister does good lower to central mid if Glister is falling off third worse team
Yeah something like that
Depends on how well Vancouver does as well that's the one I'm least confident in of the three
Florida I think could do really good if the pieces fit
Vancouver is gonna shit the bed
And I mean it
Besides Aspire and a good support line Vancouver has nothing
glister naga kaan, 3 mid pieces
Tbh for me Charge 20th spitfire 19 and Paris is gonna be somewhere from 18th-12th
charge is not a 20th team
I completely disagree with charge below london
charge will not he 20
I could see that and switch them
charge I have 14-18
Charge are probably gonna beat the fusion and maybe one of their spark games and one of their Valiant games
fusion valiant charge and potentially a bed shitting spark could all be 7 apac
True
they could all be 7 APAC and still be better than bottom na
Ngl I think Spark are gonna be either 3rd or 4th in Apac it all depends on Jjonak
Jjonak. The player on Seoul Dynasty? The player that's on break from competitive play?
Ah of course, he's the singular hinge holding back the spark
Yeah
Jjonak if he comes back will lead the Dynasty to 3rd if he doesn't come back on time Spark take 3rd
Seoul have one tank spark have three
I would rather take sparks tank line
And the dps arenāt far apart
Boston is not bottom two
Shut up
This guy only forms opinions off scrimmages and random na contender nobodies š¤¦āāļø
ok riddle me this howcome lukemino not in owl, or is he ?
Not true
Because he is mid
And abused broken heroes
He is a choker
i feel like for some teams he would be a pretty solid choice but maybe i look at him with rose tinted glasses
yea thats what i was thinking, not in him over kariv but even he coudlve been signed over anamo even
and i feel like for teams like shock or houston they couldve tried for him bc i feel like he fills a hole in supp those teams have
Not really he isn't a better FS than anyone on shock or houston
And his MS isn't that amazing.
Mayhem should have signed him over kariv tho IMO
āļø @PELICAN_OW
āļø @MER1T_ow
āļø @danteh
š”ļø @Piggy__OW
š @Lastro_OW
š @ow_Ir1s
No MT or MS
Is Houston finalized?
Welp
#OutlawsNation, here is your official Houston Outlaws roster for #OWL2022!
It's time to #AnteUp.
yes
I think they arenāt top 5 Na tbh then
They made horrible choices
Unless the meta goddess shines her beam on them
houston finalized is weird
you know, with a slogan "All In" you'd think they would have been a good GOATS team
bc based off my assumptions of the game the holes they left are holes that dont matter
or good Rush/Rein
I'm gonna be honest
They have gaping holes
They were last szn
How are you gonna run Rein/monkey/ball comps with a player whoās only good on sigma
no mt sadly
if we're this far in to teams scrimming ow2, and they haven't found the need to sign a MT or MS, there probably is a reason
bc im assuming OT is meta all season and that the only "main supp" being played is like brig which i think flex players are more than suited for
You just don't run them
This is the team who kept Jake as coach and player
idk why people don't get this
Theyāre assumptions are bad
Jake is a good coach
i think its fair for a team like houston if main tank is ever meta to just run off tank
Everybody agrees
They have better info into how ow2 goes than us
like i hate that more teams didnt do this in ow1
So just because scrims are indicating something you donāt need a ms or mt for the entire season?
just play the comps u r good at
if ur utter dogshit on the meta play something else
Your gonna run without a MT and MS on a whole new game for a whole ass season?
That is a bad mentality imo
Youāre
Piggy can learn Mt
We just came off a season where a team placed 2nd in the end by just forcing what they're players are good at
And MS ez role
ok well its not perfect, but if u got like idk fearless n the meta is DS just suck it up n play monkey
Idk why it's a wild idea other teams might follow suit
i get u may not win the cup
Heās not even gonna be close to the mid MTs this szn
but u get so much further otherwise
Heās only good on sigma
Sungmin balls
Disagree
Their heroes were like 5/6 meta
yes I am a turtle
Other than monkey which was still good
i think piggy is very mechanically and mentally capable to play main tank
Yes or you can pick up a main tank
who š
No
super (copium)
Sado is so fucking mediocre
He became washed
Literally better than piggy mt
man only looked good when he had literally a top 3 support line behind him
Like oge
why would piggy play MT unless it's hard meta
are you people this dense
Why would they force heroes they suck at
why wouldnāt you pick up a mt at all
I don't fucking know I'm not a coach for outlaws
Could easily be that piggy has shown good flexibility on MTs if they ever ran them in scrims, and/or his OT was really strong
who even are main tanks in tendies that fit the pool for houston on shock
hasnt the role been sucked dry
The only MT you're getting at this point is some mid tier shit
like they arent gonna get anyone good so its prob not worth it
They can sign GIG
Best MT ever
In the NA
Region
i havent been watching him, has he gotten better in tendies ?
No
LOL
Is a joke
ok just making sure
800 XRAY Ameng and Sado are literally the only competent main tanks left
idk anything about him since he hasnt been on upper NA teams when i watched but i was open to someone who watched him telling me his skillset
And 3 of them are chinese
fissure
So idk their English/Korean skills
And GiG has synergy with s9mm luge on shock and lastro on outlaws! Perfect pickup
im gonnna be honest even if there wasnt language barriers or vias issues i dont think houston should sign them
Unless you want to take a heavy punt on Changssik
No
piggy MT is unironically probably better
Emphasis on heavy punt
Unironically would take gig over changsik lol
Changsik looked lost
On rein
And his Ball got gapped by
tbf ping and one of if not the worst supp line
Heās betta than reinah
Haday
but still not good
This is bait
Because jazzay
Knows I think reinah
Good
cool
Yall can't pretend to be him any more
anyways
I have evah seen
i only follow him in the offseason anyways
Wow
Reiner best AT player by a margin
Untrue
Agree
He is bettor than hydron
Overrated and untested
Reiner faces the ultimate test by defeating the goat Itsal on multiple occasions
2 occasions...
Itsal was signed very late to UA
3 occasions*
It was way more than 2
Unless I am mistaken
It was like 5
It was like 10
If you count
it was dank before itsal
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i didnt watch that
im only talking in contendies
I enjoyed watching SMC take Redbirds to their limits
was itsal on the roster then?
cause iirc itsal only was signed for the last tournament
cause they had dank before then
they had dank and qoq for a bit
then itsal and qoq
People make fun of NA main tanks for being rein one tricks but the irony is Reiner is the most flexible western tank in the league
Agree
Actually they had Dank and Adam for a bit
Itsal joined for the last 2
Funny that when Adam got replaced by a washed up ex Spark player Uprising Academy were top 2
It also helped that odyssey lost their best players and Darkmode disbanded
who
Yeah but 2 ATās
ok esports discussion lets do some rapid fire ratings for players, im just gonna drop the name of them and u guys reply asap so we can see what people think about the players w/o any bias, you guys like this?
He does not have much competition
Forget about Wasabi being shafted with K1ng and Majed
Then neither did the rest of them
They had super
Saying Reiner is the most flexible western tank is not a big compliment
Daan can play wrecking wheel
But he isn't good
is there anyone else
Gator
oh yeah him
cloudy
in owl
no
no
so yeah reiner probably my pick out of those if i had to
same
top eu players to go to the league?
Just has scuffed
i think gator is pretty strong at rein n orisa but i think reiner has the more valuable pool
Monkey
kraandop almost made owl
western mts cant play monkey lol
Dank xan
He is irrelevant
even then it wasnt like super monkey was groudnbreaking
Monkey one play if Iām not mistaken
just passable at min
It was good
But smurf bettor
yeah no it was fine, good whatever compliment u choose but it wasnt like hes in the convo for goat of the hero
ya know
Jkaru been on relevant teams
dank has been on many owl teams academy teams
guangzhou charge and the boston uprising
they are pretty good
disagree
he took then from 1-3
only 4th at best
and we all know how sephy coaches
im just saying
this roster looks worse than their s3 roster
Nah
Gator Hawk Kai Nero Ojee UV is still a very good lineup
With gator hawk at the time????
say sike rn
the question is how much Sephy brings down the Reign
because this roster is definitely good
what?
I would argue they are even with NYXL, Toronto, Houston, Shock
Better than Justice slightly, and I'm a Justice fan
Gator Hawk Kai Nero Ojee UV is better than Mag Kalios Decay Assassin Opener Vigilante
The Opener Assassin factor
its 5v5...
and assassin is very good
now that they have actual coaching
i pretend that the countdown cup never happened
Assassin is like 7th or 8th on flex dps or the worst sombra player
His sombra is top 5...
I said or
But he is an insane sombra
like one of the best
in playins
in the summer showdown
Yes
they steamrolled glads and paris
I agree
huh
Beating paris is not a good point
huh
btw
i wont even argue this because atlanta is oging to be very bad
that team went 4-8 against actual teams
Ur literally hyping nyxl
nobody is hyping up reign
They suck
atlanta will be top 5 easily
4th-8th NA is not hyping up reign
now does nyxl suck
I can see 3-4 teams above them
in what world
I can't see anymore past that
Thatās all they have
No heās not
kellan is not good lol
yes he is...
have you seen him actually play
yes
I watched talon
ojee/uv is probably better than gnj/myunbong too
easily
Easily
no we're just not braindead
Man levy is spitting today
Kellan is the second best rookie maintank but he is not good
what happened to u
at all
u used to have decent takes š
Lmao
myungbong is good...
Scarlet
Levy is a smart man
who is this
just false
crustyjr
just not true
boston was just a shit show
Uv is comparable to gnj too
agreed
Ok stop huffing paint
their support line is way more rounded
they have venom top 3 tracer na
THAT DOESNT MEAN SHIT
Lmao
top three tracer NA
Heās 5th or 4th
versus decay
i only say danteh bad
ill take fourth
kevster
theres 2 people above him
pati
proper and kevster
yes i did
LMAOOO
bro
Iām gone
you're fucking braindead
pati that cant 1v1 a masters
and your saying that venom is top 3
Kevster ans carrying
U said pati bru
venom is #4
Pati can stay washed
yes pati
Stop talking
in NA
nah yall are on some other shit
how can someone be so brain damaged
just wait for the season
Patiphan is the worst player in the Overwatch League.
i dont understand š
just wait for the season
Youāre not real lmfao
nah
actually
coldest
not a real person
Scarlet used to be respected
Heās not even the worst fs
not really
or like hadi
Coldest is MILES better than patiphan
he just had some ok takes sometimes
no shot
no shot
Hadi is better pretty significantly
no shot
𤔠clown moment
What is even that title
not to mention
i have watched every single second of coldest
What am I reading bru
nero kai
i am literally a spark fan
good af
That explains it
gator shatters bout to get blocked
Coldest is not 3800 on dps
ow2 is a different game
um dont care didnt ask + ratio
and pati was playing valorant for the last year and a half
Literally fucking flameknightt is more qualified to be on the glads than pati
give him more time
Wait heās actually
Decent at ow
Couldnāt tell
pati is one of the most talented people to ever touch video games in general
4.3 when he played
He can totally be insane in ow2
š
u couldnt tell with his bad takes
no shot
i dont blame u
Yeah
He literally is what
Unironically
Scarlet
What are your thoughts on apr1ta?
pati was a great valorant player
GOOD TAKE
second coming of leave
he's just bad for owl standards right now
I watch every second of contenders in almost every region besides EU
damn
imagine doing that
and AU
You cant even say that these takes r shitty until the season starts
