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No he isn't
LIP is better than anyone else in the league period
LIP is the best player in owl besides maybe the void hanbin offtank mafia
And LeeJaeGon being the sole main support to have enormous impact
Dafran, leave, FunnyAstro, Krystal, Colorhex, Apply, Neko, Viol2t, Ripa, SADO, xQc, OGE (for negative speak/account sharing/boosting) Mouff and Dreamkazer for SA/Grooming stuff and extra one, Daemin (SHD coach) was banned for account sharing/Boosting
this is former and present owl players n stuff
proper is not that good
proper is god tbh
he’s not the best player in owl like mr prov1de is implying
fuck we dont know how good he will be
I’m like a week late but does anyone know if the rumour of atl signing caffeine is any true?
who
I only know sugarfree
i may be stupid but who the fuck is caffeine
That’s what I said first he’s a dps player
sugarfree > pelican in his day
This was the tweet
But idk if there’s any truth
That’s not a credible leak source
Agree
Yeah Ik that’s why I’m asking if anyone knows if it’s tru
I don't understand why these people don't have eyes
Nobody is saying proper isn’t insane
but he’s not better than lip
besides in flexibility
mr prov1de did say he was
Accurate representation of what he is
leave and lip are better, proper is 1c for owl dps
can they beat the dragons?
will the shock?
what contenders team is he on
no
yes
no
at least once
yes once
So wrong
Unfortunately
but not in any important games
you think hunters beat dragons?
No eyes
they will win opening week second dragons match of the season
but they will never win in playoffs games
unless we get our meta
your meta is shanghai's meta
hunters in the right meta could
is doom gonna be a tank next season of owl?
it's a joke
so
fleta lip are the most clutch dps duo in the league
on HHT (Hip hop twitter)
2021 they showed up every tournament
there's this one account
apr1ta is fucking clutch too
RapTV which doesn't post rap and sometimes post the wildest shit
so
people made fun of them
by copying the way the type and making fake shit up
and someone made a owl version
so it's just a stupid joke originating on HHT
and caffeine is a T3 dps pretty sure, same team as brandito(?) or zbra
idk
doom one trick dude me forgot
doom one tricks can make it in owl
look at mirror
o shit
mirror tank next season
mayhem gonna come out nowhere and win
Florida dps playing tank, name a more iconic duo
mirror is genuinely a very good doom and zarya though
mirror is anything but a one trick
Idk what happened to that yznsa contenders team
Did they win or something
Still his pharah is super clean
yeha
yeah(
yeah**
great Doom/Echo and good zarya
and brig
I have a crackhead take that in a ball tracer echo/hanzo meta with brig zen
hunters have a shot
Omg in a specific construct of 5 heroes
also
Seoul can win if they re-sign gesture and there's a hog meta
apr1ta leave challenges and can beat lip fleta
Seoul wins when smurf plays rein
that’s different because ball tracer brig zen echo are all good heroes
How do you know what an entire different game would look like
I live in the hunters practice room
I can make an argument that zarya will be busted and it won't be worse than u saying ball will be good
Cuz we have no clue
Sure
Enjoy yourself in aprita's bedroom
who has the better doom between dragons and hunters?
I agree
doom vs doom
But that is due to my hitscan bias
I actually live in yveltals bedroom because he’s too busy reading manga to sleep
mike this is why you are a c tier ed member
Mystary is D
also you didnt bosst a thing
no
wheres my 300?
I carry every game you are in
no?
that 5 stack where was the carry?
empathy was getting tank diffed and mike was invisable
sans fed
ping
yaki tried to carry s4 mayhem
boomed tank line though
orisa doesn’t get affected by ping
When are mod apps results announced
and when is sans getting mod so he can create a jack box voice channel
Uvalo were you in Ed jack box before
no i was sleeping because you guys do it at like 1 my time
aren’t you the same time zone as the other eu shitters
Hi
No you don’t
Hi batwoomen perc
But that’s cat woman in your pfp
super better retired hog
you mean jjanu
You mean hogyobin
:(
when are we having our chess match
chess league more dead than ow
"S9mm had to give the CRAZIEST head to Andy Miller to make this happen"
"Call that the American Tornado"
fucking reddit
s9mm probably vouched for him I would assume
But I highly doubt he could alone convince shock to sign coluge
actually idk
I have no clue if players have much or any say in who the team gets
Nobody taking a vouch from s9mm serious 🤣
Considering he's played with coluge, having someone on your team already vouch for someone is always nice
Disagree
It depends on the coach
Sadly glads coaches did not agree
With their players
On dps line
I'd have a hard time believing any glads player wouldn't want fastro/ans
maybe some might not have wanted pati
even reiner I don't see people not wanting
Ans is terrible
this is a scam right
why would it not be
because im low iq
only ignore and report spam
yea
😂
oh ok
thanks for the confirmation
would i get insta muted if i copy pasted the message acting like i got hacked
round 3 of what
what
No
how do you get disabled because you leak your age
It’s not a scam
yea well duh need to know your discord to make you mod
it was a mistake to click on all of the links?
fuck outta here
low IQ
brain diff
real duna number?
actual 12 year old
first you click on a scam link
then you leak your phone number
god you are actually gullible
no wonder you think glads will succeed
imma text you asking for your cars extended warranty
Reinforce saying what the entire Fusion fan base is thinking
I leaked my address, this is child’s play
how did you accidentally dox your address
yeah then thats not stupid that's just you being dumb
mr duna on the other hand
actual 2head
dumb=stupid?
Leaking my address proves that I am not afraid of hackers that try to leak it for me
leaking your address proves that you dont care about anyone else who lives with you
you just called him dumb though
And that I’m not afraid of any of you puny twinks that would make a fragile attempt on my life
ok
sending nuke
I will be visiting your area code using you phone number @balmy wolf
I said I wasn’t scared of any of you
post it again then pls
Fuck it got removed
You removed it
???
I didn’t
im about to break discord TOS and bring a plugin that lets me see deleted messages
why would your address be a banned message
Guess it contains a slur
67
Either that or it got removed for my “safety”
it was the 67
67
ah of course, the slur word 67
67 Hotdale garth
You can’t say that here, that’s pinkist
he lives in a shack
Bro needs an upgrade
I don’t know what the fuck that is but it’s not my house
that's like the average bri ish house
tell me that when you get windows on the side of your home
shit looks like slums
he's in the fucking trenches man
reinforce right
shit's rough out here in the trenches
fake address we have been baited
at least he can afford a fence unlike his neighbours
I don’t see you leaking your address pussy
winston/rein is a very different mindset and playstyle compared to every tank
fake address tho
because I actually am in the trenches
Getting someone to off role and play them will always be worse than a normal MT
pussyhole
same thing with main support
just fucking get one dude its not the end of the world
Order me something funny from Amazon and I’ll send proof of me with it
duna is exceedingly lacking in IQ points
whats your discord password
how do we know you're the real duna? what if your account got hacked and you are the hacker?
ok imma try it
you know his phone number so you can try log in 
Those are the words of someone that doesn’t want the Moderator Recruitment to show me the ropes
yes
This is my house tho
u live in brazil bro?
is that jack not social distancing in the kiddie pool
just two bros chilling in some water
Yeah because Brazil is 20 miles away from me
its a lady
no
I can drive to Brazil
bro is non-specific
If cartel allows me
who is cartel?
The Mexicans
forgood is hunted by the mexican mafia
😰😓
deserves it w some of the shit he says
we should play town of salem
If I were the mafia I’d want him dead too
The cartel is literally Mexican dumb shit
you're telling me that cartel is spanish for mexican?
wacist
oh so it is
wacist
Someone needs to set a bounty on this kid frfr
We could end world hunger
With him not eating all the food
If I’m not involved in multiple murders under the influence of drugs and the cartel before my teenage years are over did I really live my life?
i am not sure why you would think it is common knowledge that cartel = mexican in the spanish language
They tried to recruit me on GTA
The Columbian Mexican
I’m a certified Muslim right @cunning patrol
Yes
The goat said it himself
isn't columbia in fuckin oregon?
hello bitches
greetings
leak your phone number and address
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Carpe best rookie DPS
Capre for MVP
Inshallah
comparing supervfearlessvmagvfatevmuzevfate on rein 2021
anyone know what pine is up to now?
calling people slurs

i personally do not agree with your ranking Levy
Múze#3
time played super was second highest and wr third highest (behind Fearless and Gator), kills behind mag, fearless and muze, death was third lowest, only fate and fearless died less (even by a small bit) final blows has the third lowest with the only ones worse being fate and gator, solo kills he was the worse (no one got higher then 0.33, that was fearless) assist second worse, gator was worse, total and fate beating him by a 0.5 margin, off assist same thing pretty much, better then gator, Hero dmg better then fate and gator, dmg taken was equal to everyone else (12k) EXCEPT Gator who got 11k, shield dmg better then mag and gator, close to muze, dmg blocked the highest, equal to fate (20k) heals received is the highest out of all of them (8.3k) Obj.kills and time he was the best out of all of them with only mag being close in terms of obj kills, ult earned was a 0.2 better then gator and also least ults used, time per ult was 1:53 with the people being faster being mag, fearless and fate (fate by 1 second) ult hold time was the highest at 2:09
then the rest is hero specifics
Which part
personally i think gator is the best reinhardt now that supertf is out of overwatch league
Stats are shit to look at for MTs
I agree gator #2
most of the time imo
Nice note bro
fr suraj
Gracia
also rein comps last year were centered a lot around your bapt/dps
It's why reign fucked so hard on rush
best bapt in NA, best mei in NA, and a top tier symm with kai
also damn
toronto cucked by visa issues
no Although till june
Reign had the best bapt?
Yes
Didn’t know they signed shu lol
iris was so fucking good
Crazy
I will stand by that Iris was the best Baptiste last season
With how heavily he swayed matches alone
Even more so than shu
Your opinions are simply wrong
You're*
shu was better lol
either you're trolling or need to re-read my post
not one correct statement was made
imo
better mei check?
kai didnt even play sym for them half the time
Nero mei was really good but pelican was a bit better imo
pelican > nero mei
that is a respectable take
I don't think there was a large gap between their meis
But whenever they played eachother pelican imo always put out more value
Which sure, could be attributed to maybe shock playing the comp worse
do you guys think shanghai can match reign on rush
why would they do that
I'd lean towards reign
they used rein zarya on last part of havana to beat reign
therefore
better team
ggwp
on last point where they had to push half of it
reign have edge on mei rein bap
its pretty close but shanghai just go ball and 4-0 anyway
I think even shd didn't want to rush mirror shock in their match
think it was KR where they were getting walked over and had to swap to hard poke double shield to stop shock on rush
How close was kr
All I remember is choi 6k
It was decently close but not that close
iirc they fought for 30 seconds to a minute in ot
then ilios was also close, and hanamura shock got rolled
Hanamura teams took turns on who got rolled
kings row didnt feel close tbh
the entire seasons
i felt like dragons was entirely in control
the entire series was over after lip turned that fight with emp on wells
It was always cool to watch shd in the playoffs at least
They did what shock had done in S3, every single fight was winnable for them
And they could stall forever
honestly that playoffs run was more dominant than shock in s3
BUT
not more dominant than shock in s2
Shock lost once
their run after makes up for it
No I meant how big was s2 playoffs as a whole
Like how many teams did shock run through
they 4-0ed 4 or 5 teams in a row?
yea 4 teams
lost 3-4 to reign, then beat glads/spark/nyxl/titans in that order all 4-0
And they weren't very close 4-0s iirc
No they didn't
Ado, geguri, and their supports were terrible
Fearless and diya
Couldn't 2 v 6
Sadly
Fearless diya were kinda fuckin
Unfortunate
Honestly they could've beaten mayhem
Like in a couple occassions
They lost to mayhem 4-0 stage 3
Shanghai was just so shit comapred to like every team
Lost to taimou MT fuel
As well
They had 2 good players 2 alright players for s1 standards and like 2 masters players
They went to map 5 against them
I forgot how many times
At least once
At some point
Tragic
Yeah the end of stage 4
Actually there was another good player
Logix was good
But his name was Undead aka Undad
Undead was a world class dps who unfortunately was too good at fucking bitches the gaming community couldn’t handle him.
Diya will dominate this upcoming season 🙏🙏
I was thinking
If shd wins again this year, or dominates similar to last season
Wonder if we'll see the players start to leave the team, or more coaches get poached like what happened to shock
It kinda already happened
Like u can argue fearless to Dallas was one
And obv jfeel to hunters
Void will retire
After this season
Imo
return of married man meta?
Shock needed just a bit more, man KR was crazy
turns out when you can't keep your dick in your pant
he cheated on his chick, got her pregnant and had the others have like 2
abortions
and then a kid
and was just
generally a shithead
I thought you were talking about 2021 Dallas and I was about to freak the fuck out
Wrong, super #1
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Ooof
Why js it worded
Like that
idk
probably just their way of saying covid w/o saying covid but idk why they just dont say covid
Never knew fastro and reiner were dps players lol.
Ans and pati are very washed and glads players wanted other options
So sad
Yea I doubt anyone on that team didn't want ans
or was against it
Pati I could see
but ans nah
CHENGDU HELL YEAH
BALL GOATS >>
THE FORCE BALL IN EVERY META
NO BRAIN
JUST B A L L
All that just to lose to dragons
also dpei was asked about the 2022 glads
said that the support line would be the "saving grace of the team"
they are the best yea
Shock sign ameng 
Can't. Ameng is going to fusion.
HIV
OWLEL 41
I've seen people struggle with that one and fail
Owlel
OWLEL
Mike so bad
I just saw this. How was season 2 stage 2 finals not even in the top 4
Greatest series of ow ever played that one
Agree, imagine not guessing in the first 3 guesses
2/3 of the coaches on LAG are Australian and they are both support players
wrong
kdp vs runaway
was easily, easily better
Odd way of spelling “2020 Summer Showdown” or “2019 Stage 1”

Sometimes i get that question I feel like owl is just fixed game this time shock got rolled they played very bad ,super left shock kinda relatable
yes
i think they can beat the 2 teams
coluge viol2t does not inspire hope
viol2t is very good tho
glads dps line is bad yes
viol2t is very good as a flex support
not the starting MS of a supposed contender
shock is gonna get a ms
How can he forget Atlanta bro
Outlaws A
Atlanta suck that's why
No ur so wrong
U know Atlanta got top 2 right
How are they mid they are true competitor to that shangai
they were 5th
if atlanta were 2nd in s4
justice 6th season 3
Any other meta and Atlanta dont make it
Literally any other meta
So you must also think Seoul were 2nd s3
I was talking about this season yea Atlanta did ok in season 3
11th
Why do they pick kr against reign
Last year they weren’t mid
dragons chose kings row to style on them
atlanta has finished 6th, 11th, and 5th
one mid year
chengdu if no yveltal throwing makes it past both shock and atlanta
LA worse brawl sure but they literally dont have to play brawl
shock could have won in the brawl mirror but pelican simply mei diffed hard so them beating shock is acceptable
fuel did not have to play brawl and even if they did they should've beat atlanta
Ok what do you guys count as mid
10th place
8-12 is my mid range
For me it's like 6-12
Mid to me is anywhere that's not top 5 and not bottom 5
How is top 6 mid
Anything below 5th is mid
So was shock mid last year
well if you take a look at previous years the gap between the top teams and the ones immediately below them are gigantic
What place did shock get
so i feel warranted in that classification
Doesn’t matter what place
Do you think they were mid
like there is the S tier teams, the A tier teams, the mid teams and the shit teams.
Idk weren't shock like 5th overall
6th overall
behind reign (made more hawaiis) glads (made more hawaiis) chengdu (made more hawaiis) fuel (made more hawaiis) and shanghai (definitely made more hawaiis)
shock hawaii count (0)
they have exactly the same record as the seoul dynasty
except seoul made 1 more hawaii than them
so they are better team
Facts
6
Shock was mid
seoul shock were mid in s4 - uvalo
on my definition mid starts at outlaws and ends at paris
Anything below 5th is mid sadly
i mean technically they were mid because there were 12 teams in the west
so 6 is middle of the pack
Maybey I can say anything below 6th is mid
i choose to ignore that fact because funny
But I like 5 more
FUSION 2022 BAYBEEE
So cope
MAYBE MAYHEMMM
A yes fusion and mayhem 2 bad teams
I think Paris Eternal were a pretty mid team in 2021. I dunno why though...
Ok shock fan
Based
yez
Nyxl upset in sojourn meta
anyways
florida did too
im angry about eqo being released
Yaki and friends
1-3: good
4-7: outside looking in
8-12: mid
13-16: p a i n
17-20: shitters
1-3 good?
yes
Mike you are an idiot
1-3 are elite 4-7 are good
Shanghai were only good s4
no, only elite team was british hurricane
the only teams that dropped maps against the valiant was fusion and chengdu
Uvalo dropped to d- with his 6th place mid take
1-5 top tier 5-12 mid
Sadly lsd the council has rejected your request to move uvalo down to d- tier
GUYS THIS IS SHY
HANGZHOU SPARK PLAYERS BACK AT IT AGAIN THIS TIME WITH CATGIRL COSPLAY
I move for a vote of no confidence in chancellor uvalo's leadership.
Yay or nay to impeaching uvalo @willow tartan
do neither of you know what a vote of no confidence is
Nope
This is functionally a vote of no confidence
I am of able body and mind
We’re impeaching uvalo on the grounds that he is unable to serve office due to his evil mind choosing to exploit power for personal gain in ed tier rankings
Sus chat
I have not exploited anything
When the Esports is ESUSORTS
You need to vote if you want to change the tier list
I have not changed it
Sorry no reporters allowed
:(
You claimed my rating has moved to d- with no prior vote, and denied a motion to move you to d- with an overreach of executive power
I am the mayor I hold the power to move people on the tier if you have a problem get a majority of ed council members to vote and I will change it
I can only move people a sub tier
Vote to make uvalo a peasant
I propose radical legislation. Remove the position of mayor from ED council and institute true democratic principles based on message count.
I am the mayor
Not yet.
If you gain 10 votes sure mike
If there’s enough opposition I’ll rework the bill
I propose radical legislation. Remove the position of mayor from ED council and institute true democratic principles based on one person, one vote.
Mr. Uvalo, who "elected" you exactly?
Himself
That is right, you hold no power.
The people
Uvalo.
The people? That's funny.
We do not acknowledge your authority.
That's mr uvalo to you
I don’t remember electing uvalo
You have none.
We held an election
No we didn’t
I see through your lies, fiend.
Such a way with words you have, you are clearly not fit for rulership.
I do not want power.
I want power for the people.
Mike will make religion mandatory
I hereby challenge you to a duel to the death, Uvalo. I shall right your wrongs.
I officially endorse the abolition of a mayoral role.
💕😜bungee🍬gum🤩🤪has🥵the💯📏properties🏫🍭of😻both✌rubber⭐and💧gum🍬✨
If you do not accept, then you shall be trampled over.
We stopped doing duels a long time ago
I am done reasoning with vile men.
You are a barbarian
Only one of us will see the break of day tonight.
Accept the duel coward
I have not sanctioned anyone
Memeicus#1310
Come if you dare.
Yet you want violence
A duel on 300 ping
That is not a duel
Why are you and lsd against me being the mayor
You both are in a tier
Uvalo has committed the crime of throwing ED stack games. So has Sans.
Punish these two.
Mike has committed the crime of falsely accusing a ed member of a crime
I did not throw
The evidence was there
It appears as though the coward has not chosen to back his words with actions. No problem.
Sans however did feed so we need to look into that
Empathy got hog diffed
Memeicus you should stop with the violence
Stop acting like a savage
We have democracy
We need an investigation into Uvalo, Sans, and Empathy.
The second lsd and I stopped queuing with you we went on an insane win streak together in notably higher elos.
This is my defense.
If you are that unhappy with me bieng the mayor then next election vote for someone else
When I stopped playing with you guys me and ian went on a win streak in the same elo
On support
I do think we need to sanction sans for his feeding
Eu vs na servers
Okay yeah, investigate Sans and Empathy.
If we resort to violence what's to stop it hapening again
Violence is an endless cycle
Dont start the cycle
It will not be an endless cycle when you are dead.
The violence will cause silence, and all will be resolved.
Enough talk. I have wasted too many words on your corruption. Fight me or die.
Choose to die with dignity or without it, I care not.
I refuse
As you wish, "my lord"
just refuse to adknolege him as a mayor
shut the fuck
one single match does not speak for my support capabilities as a whole
if it did then people wouldn't be referring to LJG as the best main support in the league after Oasis vs Shock Winner Finals 2020
Unlike ljg you don’t have good showings as support
at least I'm better than Pr🤮v1de
same
Feedjaegon
Cuyo make a good take when
Never
I always have good takes
like...?
Unlike you, bunch of biased supporters
GUYS THIS IS SHY
HANGZHOU SPARK PLAYERS BACK AT IT AGAIN THIS TIME WITH CATGIRL COSPLAY
238
awooga
i think im gay
🥵
based
There is not a rule against seducing other players to win
Return of the kiss-a-homie meta
Sans throwing comp on 4K
it’s because you are European
All I'm saying is name a better na hitscan then kai
In the na region or an actual na hitscan
Na hitscan
that doesn’t help
From na
me
Lsd you get hard countered by a bap
Who doesn’t
He does
Name a na main support better then astro
moth
astro is better tho
Ok if you are defending eu with roles
Name a better eu tank duo than gator hawk
Or a better flex support than uv
Moth vs fastro is debate able
There has only been like 3 eu tank duos the past 2 years
Just do it individually then
Name a better eu MT than super and a better eu OT than hawk or space
Benbest
troll
Benbest was a top 4 orisa
Wow what a good orisa player
L
Arguing benbest over super is just stupid
Rien otp vs orisa otp
who has been more important over the years
Now we going of importants?
Idk like 1-2 years
Like all time who has been more important
Rien has more years on orisa tho
So L + ratio
Your just mad na has no top tier tracer players
No I’m not
So counter L
I exist
No you don't
I’m not upset about NA having no top tier tracer players though
Cope
Overall I think NA has more good players in the league than EU
Let's just forget about it and bully the Australians
best widow ever
Not really
how is that a hot take
yaki also overrated
Wrong
danteh tracer better then yaki?
Probably better than kevster but not yaki
nyxl mid?
Danteh A tier tracer
uvalo with bad take #93736
lsd coping
Yaki top 5 tracer
no
Easy
Profit
Lip
Fleta
Decay
Striker
Leave
If carpe becomes dedicated tracer player probably him
Ok lip I might agree with but he has too low playtime
Kevster better
So far it’s just leave striker I agree with
not carpe
Kevster yaki are close
kevster yes
carpe outclassed
fleta
So wrong
No he's a grinder he can grind back