#esports-discussion
1 messages Ā· Page 2607 of 1
meanwhile spark sneak into finals
š
Shy becomes MVP
Spark goated so thatās not unbelievable
you guys will be sorry when China takes the overwatch league by storm
Shanghai?
or do u mean CN players
Shy Pineapple Alphayi big
Can't wait for shd to shit on everyone in apac for another season
shanghai chengdu lock top 2
!!! lets go !!!
chengdu failing to win anything, and seoul choking for no reason
That's believable for APAC yes
I canāt wait for Shanghai to lose to Fusion
No plausible logic
š³
Just that Fusion has never lost an opening game in franchise history
overall
chengdu will be 2nd unless something else happens
No Clestyn no win
lowest this team could possibly be is like 4th
dont care unfortunately
clestyn warming bench in t2
probably 2nd place once again š„¶
they have proper
hunters overall dps line better
wait, Na1st still playing?
jesus is on shock
^^
leave apr1ta > proper kilo/s9mm
jesus = god
^^^^
s9mm
thatās apr1ta

and ameng is god
Crusty/ninek > chengdu coaches
proper > apr1ta
fucking nonbeliever
proper > leave
if they solve their management issues ...
1 proper + 1 bronze player> apr1ta+leave
also i have no confidence in the chengdu "coaches"
no
Leave > Proper >/= Apr1ta
nor do I have any in the organization
shit take
definitely better than apr1ta
Leave sadly just a tracer one trick š¦
apr1ta will die for our sins and leave will holy crusade the entire league
bad take
proper has better hitscan for both
7.4 final blows/death
Danteh > Leave
than both
now thats based
proper = leave on echo as well
Ga9a is Chengdu's only tank though.
true
Damn guess his sombra mccree genji ashe and echo were simply invisible
innovation > proper
Guys what if D.Va is good in OW 2 like she has been in OW 1
what are Chengdu gonna do
you guys are way overrating proper or just sleeping on china
i watch both regions
Proper is great
sign ameng
Going ball
endo f story
if ball isn't hard meta chengdu sadly falls off
!! ameng knows how to play dva
innovation + nohill buff + apac buff + new game buff is unstoppable
ga9a is elite on 3 heroes
Kilo S9mm is not great
š
ga9a is elite on one hero
one hero i think
false
Donāt care loses to FiXa ROTY 2022
false
ga9a moreso
veteran experience
valiant #1
with goated coaching assistance
People unnaturally sleep on GA9A
will be the rivalry
wym
everyone here but memeicus has deep rooted anti-Chinese xenophobia
and sans
sans doesnāt
gaga is like the chinese smurf except remove good winston and add good ball
Like
I hate my own kind š
GA9A off ball was still elite
yes
ga9a is just your usual apac MT player
youāre from China?
Really good at one of ball/winston, decent at the other
im chinese so unfortunately ur wrong + ratio
xenophobia isnāt racism
I agree, I just don't think he's better than Fate
yes
bro
you donāt live in China and werenāt raised there so you can be xenophobic
ethnicity doesnāt matter
how can you assume that?
was born and raised in taiwan
Like we have to completely forget who was good at orisa previously
Because so far she seems to basically be a new hero
ok so you were born and raised in china
nvm
šŗ
flameknight
sorry levy
More than a certain ex Shock main tank could do 
taiwan is not china
you can say that about literally everything in the game
we are choosing to ignore that fact for the sake of this discussion
Iām paid
Not every hero is getting their kit completely changed up
My point is that we can't rate current MTs including orisa for now
We know orisa has gotten a rework
if you want an unironic take. the only thing we know about pros coming into ow2 is their mechanics and game sense.
and yiska leaked some specifics
Very true, Rio is going to rival Fearless next season
lowkey proper probably gonna be so elite at Sojourn
you cannot choose to selectively apply the "oh no we dont know stuff about ow2" to just orisa
Just like the 2020 apac summer Showdown
when it applies to everything about the game
I can though
were you?
no because its all speculation
Because not every hero in OW2 is going to be completely different
raised and born in China? yeah
apr1ta*
We don't know that.
ok so all of you are bad citizens
We have a decent chance of knowing
why is mike being weird all of the sudden
besides
abt race and shit
yiska iirc doesn't really lie
no cause im not a citizen
there is literally a whole new map type that we know barely anything about
the chinese region
Apr1ta ROTY or -200 social credit
how do you predict a map type you dont even know how its going to play
Guangzhou elite guys!!
if china is so elite
To be fair
how come usa beat them in the WC
huangzhou so elite guys!
it is
There was only like 3 decent CN Contenders teams
NY destory on NY
š„¶
they are jjust not proper level
chasers
But thatās because they were the only teams with good players
all I must say
toronto do good on toronto?
chasers
yes
Chasers BLG and arguably UP
flag gaming elite
2020 flag gaming yes
We finally broke him to use a ripbozo gif
2019 was before peak China even started + during peak NA
itās a lunatic take
worst team apac is valiant or fusion
who would be like
8th na
8th?
or higher

Nah Valiant would be like 10th NA
But this is without the Nohill delusion playing a part in my mentality
valiant has nohill
Why the tuck
valiant easily top 4 apac
Does every human in this server
top 6 na
Rate Titans so low?
titans donāt have nohill
nohill was like the contenders moon to 2020 shanghai/cc
Stop using the delusion of coaching staff for 5 seconds when talking about this below mid shitshow
ā
Innovation is a washed tracer one trick
nohill
Coldest proved exactly why he was benched for MCD with his playtime on Spark
MCD was just better player
What did I say about coaching?
nohill
imagine being benched by a racist š
nohill
xenophobe*
@willow drum mcd isnāt racist
dumbass
imagine being benched by a xenophobe š
oh no im gonna get fucking cancelled !!
Yeah, amateur mistake. I'm a professional who never gets confused when discriminating.
sans you fucking twat
Oooh
show me
tell your nan she would probably be a better bap than you
I don't have book unfortunately
keep em to yourself
Nan > Me > Coldest
At least thereād be a surprise unpredictability factor in there
nan > shu > coldest > you > prov1de*
whats Shanghai, 6th?
You misspelled āprš¤®v1deā
true
Provā¤ļø de better than everyone but the shuseph
And uv
Why isn't DDing in the league yet š¤®
And vigilantee
He is signed just unannounced
It's for the 21st overwatch league team
Paris
the harbin heroine addicts
dding is king
youngjin doom tank dding/diem luffy/coma
Dang imagjne Shanghai with Nohill
I want to make a wager
Better
pride
Profile dominance
And bragging rights
If Valiant are above bottom 3 apac I will change my pfp and server name for a month
To anything (that doesnāt break TOS) of your chose
we really gonna wait a year for payoff
Make it interesting I guess
overall standing?
Each stage Valiant make it above bottom 3 I have my pfp and name changed
OK
but heres the thing doe
Each stage Valiant remain where they belong Levy has his pfp and name changed
Alright username change
Nohill daddy vs Nohill overrated
Profit is Better than Carpe on Ashe
Who isnāt better than Carpe though?
Undead?
Schwi?
Iāll make yours
Levy | Zest tops baby Profit
yeah he tops profit because he wanna be profit
prescribe some glasses
i have
ones without the dark lens that make it easier to see in sunlight
ones that makes you see reality and not illusions
uninformed take made by a casual overwatch league viewer
ow didnt even exist in 2015
well actually
betta november 2015
so i guess you are correct
Apex dead
Then Bobby touched it and put rules then everything died
@imAVRL @PixieOnTheMic #4
It's really annoying to study Talon's matches (Kellan, Chorong, Vigilante) because HeeSang just takes over games and KEEPS POPPING OFF ALL THE TIME.
This kid is crazy good, and to think he just turned 17 just this month...
heesang hopium
s9mm bouta lose his job
too young
to heesang
unless they remove the req for ow2
2023 prob
yes go back to being a shock fan
FUSION BAYBEE WOO
idk I might support Mayhem "only"
since my fav tubers supprt em
hmm
but Fusion is closer to me hmm
or you mean the streamers?
like emongg
although havent seen content creators supporting teams
š¦ league is dead š¦
oh it's like that? damn
FUSION 2022 BAYBEE
idk with so mnay teams ill keep an eye on mayhem š³
nah ur carpe w all those silvers
it was 6 min in
8k dmg good
mystary coping
@balmy wolf explain this clip
The Rein bot is unfair
nice firestrike
proper owns him
however
heesang only 16
bright future ahead
might be proper 2.0
even nicer charge
Wait...
...are we high on the LA Valiant? Stay tuned this week to find out
235
for everyone that's saying "nohill buff" isnt real
@hot onyx \
he's jesus
I thought proper was Jesus
his charge was bad but you choosing to firestrike that bad charge is owrse
his shatter was even worse
crusty > moon > junbuck > nohill > ninek
crusty viol2t mccree echo lucio
Very good NA off tank player
very good mechanics
More than likely better than super on the off tanks, but a downgrade on MTs obviously
but iirc he can play ball decently
Wrong
Junkbunk after that Houston season
Nohill diffs
Way way better
Than super
On the off tanks
Dude
I don't speak on absolutes on players I haven't watched
Iron or like a decent T2 ot would be better
just going off on what I hear
in ranked
ranked meaningless
Nohill gotta prove himself in the big leagues first
Hadi was better than Benbest
that scrimbux rumours
i wish i had someone in my life like nohill
mickey mouse scrims I say
He alwasy was
Ben just had a good team
Around him
While hadi did not
Benbest was never that good he simply had hanbin fdgod fielder and sparkle in a genji meta, both benbest and boombox get Hella overrated because of their teams
Also this team exists apparently
https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Team_Peps
Team Peps is a French Organization created by FƩlix "FƩfƩ" Munch in order to promote French and European talents on Overwatch.
Doesn't have to
If proving yourself in the big leagues first mattered tons of people in owl history wouldn't have a job

I think pine and patiphan aren't owl worthy and were not worthy of owl after 2018

Although it's sick coluge finally got a shot after literally everyone else from the teams he was on made owl
owc team france?
Idk they just got a bunch of French people to make a team
They got 4th in the only tourney they played which was experimental
Fans in France could give you
All the money and free marketing in the world for a home team like Eternal
https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1508619886255390722 either halo is mald everyone made fun of him yesterday or he's baiting
So despite Superās late retirement in this offseason, the Shock have still managed to upgrade at Tank with Coluge! unreal.
i think hes being a troll maybe ?
idk
personally if i were him i wouldnt talk
like sure coluge is good tank
yeah
but more so the delivery of it
I mean if he said something like "coluge is an upgrade if OTs are meta" it would make sense
but it just comes across as baiting
This is the bonus video I mentioned. I was too busy to upload it as planned, but it's here now.
APAC is always so fucking shit. Same thing this year as well
Dragons
The exception
Not the rule
Seoul who were the 2nd best apac team at points last season
Got stomped by ATL with peli on high ping and no practice
Chengdu were good but the meta also favored them
Seoul with anamo gesture
Went 12-4
A better record than shanghai
Lol
Spark was a shit show
And fusion got screwed by visas
We would be 4-12 without profits
It was only 3 good teams
And 1 of those teams got smacked
By a weak version
Of a top na team
Spark would still beat half of NA by solely pocketing shy
Shy can gap ur mom that's for sure
Ok
Is this guys name fr? Provide #1 fan 
People here hate him
So I renamed to that as troll
But prov1de the goat of eu FS
Tho
Here I thought the Shock would be a contender.
I still think they can, theyāre stacked with young talent. But cucumber isnāt the answer at tank.
Really isn't any other option
ameng is a washed ball otp
Shangai
Round 2 2019 will always be the best game of OWL ever
That's true
s2 stage 1/2 finals were both insane
Hmm
Houston vs Boston s3 should have gotten an honorable mention
^^
stage 2 finals overrated
outclassed by most other great games
I can see why that match was voted, the comp Shanghai ran was so unusual at the time compared to everyone else running GOATs
personally, I'd have gone for Seoul v Shanghai reverse sweep
that was an incredible match
Owlel
Quit copying my guesses
which one, the reverse sweep or GOATS v triple DPS
both are great but i was commenting on how the apac may melee final is one of my favorite matches
youngjin deserved role star, change my mind
I did it first
sideshow and bren were just losing their shit whole series long
I actually had shanghai fusion over shanghai fuel
which shanghai fusion game?
shock bottom 10
not bottom 10
but overrated
coluge kilo proper viol2t finn
isnāt amazing besides proper finn
viol2t is very worrying
ms
Did you?
I did it yesterday
So what is today?
lsd whats your opinion the do
yes
Define ādoā
Do you ever shut up
The ten minutes it took you to respond I did
i was doing a covid test
You donāt go outside stop lying
goblin
He went by the name āCucumberā on AT
no idea
Remember when AT got taken to map 7 by BH?
no
What do you remember?
u jomped
sh2pe/reiner played ball for that team
iirc
OWLEL 40
OWLEL 40 1/8
š©š©š©š©ā
š
owlel.zusor.io
I know Reiner played ball but I wondered if Coluge did any of that business sometimes like Molf1g
When does OWL start again š
may 5th
play on ps4
smurf said my name this day is blessed
stop simping for smurf
simp for good players
with good personality
smurf only has the latter
birdring on the other hand

i can't tell you if you're joking or not
Smurf better than gaga
no
simply incorrect
ga9a trades a slightly worse monkey for an insane ball
much better at ball
brainlet
smartest Chengdu fan
Smurf diffs ga9a on Monkey, ga9a hard gaps smurf on Ball
Also, can somebody who follows tier 2 or contendies or whatever tell me about SFS' new tank?
Who dis coluge guy
your opinion doesn't matter
13 other starters
thinks smurf gaps ga9a by a wide margin on any hero
???????????????
atleast I'm quoting you correctly to make you sound dumb
I literally said gaga has a better ball and probably a better rein
Unfortunately crustyjr here is having some brainlet takes
Lets call it quits and say they are equally as good
yes but thatās not what I meant by any hero
I mean ga9a is not gapped by smurf by a substantial margin on any hero
you are so so so dumb
ga9a leave and mmonk and sometimes yveltal carried chengdu to 3rd last year
now no more 8th place offtanks and apr1ta instead of jinmu
chengdu fucks
the entire league made improvements
this team upgraded more than other top teams though
I disagree
glads downgraded
paris š
technically
fuel only upgraded on ms
glister > onigod
Jinmu is the goat
shock downgraded to fucking coluge
only "upgrade"
upgraded to proper kilo s9mm too
proper kilo s9mm is worse than leave apr1ta jinmu
proper fucks yes
but not enough
proper isnt better than leave
aprita is better than s9mm
paris is an upgrade
comparing hs to a fdps
I think itās nuanced and complicated
jinmu is outright better at some heroes
s9mm at others
call it even
its just very hard to compare rookie players to experienced owl players
contenders is very different to owl
like muze was so hyped up last year
and he played mid most season
muze was very good
only 2nd half he was good
first half he was 'consistent' but not even close to any other top mt
It's not if you just use ur fuckin eyes
muze play reinhardt challenge (very difficult)
existence of british hurricane disproves this
who thought they were gonna be worse than paris
? They looked bad during their final moments in EU contenders
Even if most people thought they were gonna be better than Paris
No one thought they were gonna be a good team
London were supposed to be mid at their very best
you can make guesses, but especially given we are moving to a completely different game you can't really say that a rookie will be good or not.
as i said before. the only thing we know about any pro player headed into overwatch 2 is their mechanics and ability to adapt
funniest take I heard pre season 4, āmuze could be a top 2 reinā
Proper is top 1 at both
Must be weird for Twilight
He's on a team that doesn't hate Korean players and communicates with the fans about what's happening
so what youāre telling me is
na1st 60 day contract
nah if it was dragons they would have announced it ages ago
unless diem still negotiating his 8 figure contract
yes
actually
theyāre waiting to announce diem until may 5
when he rolls out on sojourn and claps cheeks
theyre not gonna announce him he's just gonna rock up on match day against fusion
yes
Or although plays on 200 ping
he gets announced when the dragons publish starting lineup in the preshow
all this time diem has been secretly refining his mechanics
sojourn god
super gave him his copy of ow2
diem whoru bebe bench lip fleta izayaki
dragons form a b roster that takes valiantās team spot
b roster vs a roster grand finals
He's been on shock for like more than a year
Nah no way they gotta play finale
For a stage
Lol
U posted allready lmao ur like flash mate
fuck, just when I thought Defiant were gonna have a good season
Yeah
justice krillin
what if there is no issues with Although and Finale's family paid the Defiant org to say that so that he could get playtime?
Maybe they sign a player on a 30 day contract
They didnāt even mention playing finale they said weāre looking at All options and stay tuned
š
hmm yes I am so excited to see Kaneki back in the league
youngjin is available
Xzi Heesu double hitscan?
xz only korea team
Show me the western representation on Defiant
which is literally only two teams. the fusion and dynasty are the only teams based in korea
dunno what he was thinking trollge
Xzi is staying in Korea
imagine thinking you are gonna replace fits or mn3carpe
If Toronto cared they wouldāve moved to apac
well presumably he wanted to be a starter
a player of his calibre should be
but i guess that is not a necessary
if NYXL stayed in east region that would've been perfect
higher peak than Flora for cree widow
then put Flora in for ashe sombra and tracer
Yall think outlaws will sign a main support
I think they should
Or jake on brig again š„“
prolly not even gonna be Jake brig
likely that Lastro fills that main support hole when its needed
Moth would be ideal but hes not gonna play another season
Jake brig 
I highly doubt he will be signed
i still feel not having a ms as a backup is stupid
stop being cheap
yeah but its diem though
League minimum is 6?
Philly has 5 too right
no
Wait nvm
Carpe MN3 Zest Fury Aimgod
Forgot about mn3
yeah that's 5
fixa
haha
š
Sans: You can't leave vc (now that i'm here)
Watch me
alrighty
will do
Who could they sign lol
If they want that player to make stage 1 he haz to be NA
And toronto full KR
Just pick up Libero
with his crypto money he can pay himself into president of the US and issue himself a visa
Lmao
Owl teams and travel issues
Just make teleports ez
I DID
@hot onyx that game is too big brain for you
i love me some shawarma
wtf if a shorma?
No I came to bully Sans

its food
what happened to #staff-furry-rp
who do you think is the worst (person wise) explayer in owl
worst as a person in what metric
sinatraa/dafran probably
people like that
yeah but in what metric though
if not counting people who legit did illegal stuff
people have different definitions for what makes someone an asshole
probably dafran
I guess Illegal stuff
confirmed
or just shitty stuff
idk
base it on your own metric
for me, what makes someone an asshole is if they do something that harms other people without benefiting significantly off of
because to me, throwing someone under the bus to save your skin is better than doing it just because you dont like that guy
That's uhh.. interesting take, I can see it
what they do
sado boosted
Sado boosted accounts
that's not bad just annoying kekw
literally broke south korean law but because of blizzfraud entertainment they allowed him to keep a career
2 years jail
you also get marked for life as a bad apple
You can't accidentally boost. Boosting is intentionally malicious so it is definitely a crime.
that's fair
but JAILTIME?
wild
Yeah. Why should it be treated any differently?
different cultures
anyways, Undead for just shitty behavior and probably Dreamkampzer/Mouf for SA/Grooming
It hurts the experience of everyone playing the game and by extension, the company publishing those games
like people complain about throwers in competitive games right and some even quit because of it
it isn't real, it's pixels on a screen, at best it should be a small fine
that hurts the publisher of course
because it's real money
im pretty sure u have to agree to a TOS when u make ur ow account
account sharing is legit just breaking the rules you agreed you would follow
so they can punish u
boosting is a commercial move to directly profit off of a game studio's IP at their expense
Just like selling cheats
I refuse to believe you people are real tbh
simply refuse, do not acknowledge that you "people" are real, you must be british
it's not even a cultural thing dude, dont you remember when ubisoft sued that one guy who was selling R6 cheats?
It's a legit issue
Fuck, Dota 2 has resorted to banning all smurfs permanently and a vac ban is worse than jailtime
banning people like sure
that's fine
and good
JAIL TIME FOR STUPID VIDYA IS DUMB ES FUCK THO
People were making money at expenses of the studio, then becomes a bussiness and very rampant
Banning them doesn't do shit when the money they make from it is more than enough buy new accounts and keep it going
Ban doesnt work, they buy acc and go
even IP bans are easily avoidable
and MAC bans
R6 cheat distributors have hundreds of thousands of dollars from selling cheats
You can make a tiny bussiness with 5 of your friends then grown up enough to make it
so yeah
Easy fix bring ow price up to 100
jail time
wild
In the past five years, Dailiantong claims to have completed 30 million orders, which it assigned to more than 500,000 boosters. Between March 1 and 19 of this year, the top four Tmall stores that offer MMR boosting for āLeague of Legendsā sold more than RMB 6.7 million worth of boosting services.
The price of MMR boosting in China varies according to platforms but is a bargain compared to what gamers would pay in countries such as the US. An MMR boost for āLeague of Legendsāāfrom the lowest division to the highestācosts $1,315 on Proboosting.net on non-China servers, whereas an equivalent boost on Dailianmao is RMB 1,953 (around $290).
uvalo owes me 300$
dam thats a shame
nope Undead also kinda illegal shit
$1,740,000,000 yearly
accurate or not its still a lot of money, enough that people want to bother to set up such elaborate and costly operations for it
DIEM OWL Former Shanghai Dragons' Pro Ashe in Ranked! March 2022 (vs. Carpe)
Please leave a like and subscribe if you can, it will really help me to promote this channel š
Original Source From Twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/diem_ow_pop
Personally I believe diem is the best aimer ever
And Jesus
diem greatest widowmaker period
Collegiate Overwatch Power Rankings. Top 16 made playoffs
who here likes team CC/02 Blast and can they tell me about Spectra
like opinions of him lmao
No if isn't lol
yes it is
leave apr1ta beats proper kilo or proper s9mm
assuming all contenders players involved live up to their performance in their tendies region
it is, S9mm is not as good as leave Jinmu or Apr1ta, Kilo plays different roll then Jinmu, Proper has potential to be better Apr1ta and Jinmu but not leave
HUH?
and assuming all current ow players (leave) keep playing to the same level
leave apr1ta better than proper/kilo/s9mm
oh also out of boredom here are all (former or present) owl players that were banned once
Itās not that propers not amazing
proper is just like a korean leave who plays in contenders and apr1ta is the best chinese rookie
yeah and leave was the only reason chengdu made any headway
so can multiple other owl dps
like lip leave
fleta on seoul dynasty
Proper is lip and leave combined

Severe cap
yes
