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Told u it wasn’t ow2
nah who did the preds
He said stream and that in scrims and such he wasn’t feeling anything when they won and feeling irritated when they lost
damn
this basically
tabby being an s tier gf right now
god damn
his alerts have a 50 minute delay
super also saying he wouldn't be surprised if proper wins MVP or ROTY
56 min delay
and finn will be top3 by the end of the season
What a hot take
Brave take from mr delisi
Is that what super said lmao?
Yeah
s9mm shock weak link
Damn
Oof
Watch it legally
But it's illeagal
i know
Thats bad
also from the sound of it
seems super might make an appearance on some owl streams occasionally
just search something like "jujutsu kaisen 0 movie online free reddit"
And just find a few websites until you get to one that doesn't make you sing up for some bullshit
not looking hard enough
been looking for the past 40 minutes
there's no shot
i'll paypal you if you find good quality
if I can find a free version of no way home a week after its release you can find a weeb movie
no way home is way more popular
Why is jjonak still there
jjonak gaming while resting
apr1ta
disagree
proper is not enough to carry this team alone when you have the viol2t main support
I think shock
Is a top tier team
My opinion is mosr valid
Trust
viol2t finn is a top tier support line if there's literally anybody else
He's cooming rn
Shocks new player is ||Ellie from Second Wind||
Is marryville getting iron??
Think
Uh huh
Iron isn't joining
Nothing iced tweets about is taken seriously
Shock

Think @next mesa Why would marryville sign iron
I think shock has enough systems and players in place to be capable of competing at the top so long as they don't get a useless tank player
I think losing super is heavy blow
Cuz coluge leaving
Hmm to where??
But having crusty/ninek back with fresh blood can easily lead to a dominant team
iirc on 2019 shock there wasn't really anyone who was a superstar leading up to that year
I think viol2t was hyped coming out of t2?
and sinatraa
and strike on tracer at the time
Architect and choi
Were hyped
Rascal striker as well but they were not contenders
you're telling me proper finn alone makes you peak
Actually rascal
cause
I guess my main point is, crusty + ninek + strong rookies can = top team
viol2t ms
Waz technically on NRG
I'm going to have a stroke if someone mentions MS again
random NA ot + kilo + s9mm + viol2t ms
They can still sign a MS
is not
you chimps
and imo, MS is only a big issue if lucio is HARD meta
or mercy
and viol2t isn't even great on brig
fucking jake was good enough on mercy
that viol2t threw on?
and viol2t brig is good wym
some of the biggest ms throws ever have been on mercy
the correct word is "outclassed"
No his ms is mid because he sits on the fucking floor as lucio and does nothing half the time
I don't even think he played more than 30 minutes on mercy last year
Looking back
barely 10% of his playtime was on MS last season
1:23 on lucio, 0:53 on mercy
brig
he played 3:26 on brig
and that's in the regular season
and shock was still pretty good in the regular season
viol2t's brig gets outclassed by so many players
His brig was plenty fine last season
ljg yveltal nisha vindaim superrich lengsa fastro skewed chiyo ojee ch0r0ng unique are all better at a bare minimum
so 14th best brig
And?
so now shock can never win on brig?
ok gg
Guess since they don't have the best in role players at every role they can't win
I'm telling you a ms who isn't top 12 on his best ms hero by far doesn't inspire confidence
Did you watch any of the games when he played it
or did you just read random reddit threads that flamed viol2t
yes and I'm telling you all of the 13 players above are better at brig
the rookie main supports own viol2t brig
And i'm telling you that isn't a big deal
He isn't playing vs 7 of them for majority of the season
fastro and skewed are on the same team anyways and astro is never playing brig over skewed
Ow isn't a basic game where you can make direct 1 to 1 comparisons on who wins
so let me stack it up for you
random ass tank (coluge solo tank would be like lower middle of the pack probably)
kilo/s9mm (good, not insane whatsoever)
proper (top 3 fdps)
viol2t (shitter ms)
finn (good fs, not top 3 but could be close)
is that a championship roster?
why are you under the assumption viol2t is going to be the dedicated MS
and not playing FS himself/brig
because they just didn't sign sanguinar
they can still sign people
in double fs the outlook is better
I'm gonna stroke out with this
And you're completely forgetting coaching
where shock has one of the best coaches of all time still
Like I said, ow isn't a basic game where you can just do flat 1-10 rankings of teams/players
There are way more things to take into account that impact a team
so you're telling me crusty, proper, and finn will consume the heart of jesus and make this team great
this coaching staff finished 7th last year with a better roster
What I'm saying is that it's possible for the current players on that roster with a decent tank replacement, to be strong next season especially with the coaching they have currently
Also for last year
they still got 4th in playoffs, and the best regular season record
While struggling with large internal issues
they were literally 7th in the regular season lmao
with league points
and if we use playoffs justice were 6th in season 3 so that's just dumb
yes
Ok at this point you're trolling or unable to read anything I say
|| regular season record doesn't matter when the format is league points, shock were a 7th place team ||
if we're using regular season record
shock are even with shanghai
Like I said
you're either trolling or unable to read my messages
so record doesn't matter
When I talk about regular season
I am meaning only the regular season games
the entire reason of the league points was for end of season, playoff seeding
idc about that when looking at the 4 matches per stage
league points more accurately separate teams by power level
The league point ranking is good to seperate teams among their entire performance across the whole season including the tournaments
I am talking about solely the 4 regular season matches per stage
so shock was as good as shanghai
try not to be dense
I am saying, despite their big internal issues, they were still able to output a regular season record that was better than every team
wrong
anti-chinese bias
even with shanghai
who sandbagged
K nvm you're hard trolling at this point
their regular season record was just objectively not better than every team
stop posting false statements
it was not better than shanghai
good trolling man
so you stand by your claim that shock output a better regular season record than every team?
Flame getting baited into an apparently discussion. 
Keep trolling
you're trolling
literally just posted a verifiably false statement
and won't admit it
I never said they were better than shanghai or any other team
all I said is that they had the best regular season record
which they quite literally did
you said "they were still able to output a regular season record that was better than every team"
which is false
they were not better than shanghai
they were 12-4 with the best map score
not better than shanghai
This means their regular season was better then every other team
wrong
But that statement does not mean they are a better team than shanghai
So please again, stop being either a dense chimp, or stop trolling
that statement means you believe 19 is greater than 19
I've got news for your fake news posting ass
now please refrain from posting false information
Super retired?
yes
😔
nah you're actually just hard braindead or trolling
it was literally not
look at what I posted
is 19 greater than 19 because you like one 19
you said "better than every team"
tell me
how is that a better record than shanghai
more map wins
🙂
Better record, but not the better team
Can't simplify it much more
same map differential
NOT A BETTER RECORD
more map wins = better
MORE MAP LOSSES TOO
Shanghai has better win percentage too
POV: The chimps are fighting
breaking news: shock has 0 fans left after super retires
Owlel
owlel
Correction: Shock has 0 fans left after Super retires and their team doesn’t win a title
Oh yeah OWLEL
shut up
Cringe guesses
OWLEL 39
Yeah I don’t know what I was thinking guessing ||a korean dps, followed by Majed and Ojee||
what what this talk about Iron, because he played with S9mm on Redbird Esports?
shock in shambles
I'm just catching up with the news today
frankly I'm surprised not a spare main tank was considered earlier but we will see
iron kilo proper viol2tms finn
does not sound pleasing
besides proper finn obviously
and maybe kilo
According to multiple sources, the the San Francisco Shock did not re-sign Matthew “Super” DeLisi nor Hyo-Bin “Choihyobin” Choi this off season.
Sources believe their is the high possibility that both players are planning to retire this off season
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shock signed super to shit on halo
knowing full well he’d leave
they have a backup plan
in the form of bumper and jjanu
I don't think Bumper will be joining
Wasn't he like super uncooperative to work with
you do realize bumper was an offtank and main support until tizi left runaway right
actually bumper mercy is cracked
cant yeah
it was all during contenders KR
but he’s only ever played on runaway
why would you do your lord and savior ameng dirty not signing him to San Francisco Shock
gigachad
Shock is not an ameng caliber team
he salvages chengdu’s season
in their darkest hour
and brings them to the title with his offtank play
Someone came in here yesterday saying
dallas is better than chengdu and on par with shanghai
went on to say edison is better than apr1ta (jesus, ameng is god)
I mean that's what you call a surface read
even on paper chengdu > dallas
apr1ta
ga9a
leave
mmonk
all legends of the game
If you could see that the second half of their comparisons then we're either talking clown show, thinks NA > APAC, or both
yep
chengdu is better than dallas in everything but tank
only barely better on support though
chengdu diffs dallas dps
so hard
i have seen ''battle of texas'' like 3 times
Closer to Las Vegas, a part of lower LA
but it never clciked in my brain that dallas is in texas
also why the fuck does texas have 2 owl teams
texas and europe have the same amount of teams
still weird how a team like fnatic has 0 interest in owl
As someone outside of the US, that still seems pretty weird but I get its a sports thing
Still weird how Team Liquid or Samsung were responsible with their money and never touched anything above contenders
Any Samsung Morning Stars EU enjoyers
werent there rumors that owl spots prices dropped massively over time
s1 they were like 20+ million
but some later teams like charge paid like 5/10 mil
Doubt
S1 were at a discount early fare of 20M
By comparison I think China got it extremely cheap
But I don't have the number at 3am to tell you you're wrong
i just want a more local team
maybe when ow2 drops and we go to 30 or 32 teams
i would legit love that
if they just lower the cost of a owl spot massively
more teams
APAC enjoyers are the master race
When China got good at tank aka never, most were what some might see as dps tryhard or dps centric region
guxue was the first good cn tank
it was the leave diya shy and sky region previously
besides lateyoung
Like I would have make an obvious exception for Guxue or Lateyoung
Ameng was an unknown back then, Elsa too
guxue lateyoung were the good ones yeah
jiqiren was considered second best chinese mt
omegalul
EU tanks stereotypical superior through goats
china is cracked at support now
daan is still in owl, super is not
Of all the benched China/Chinese Taipei talent (ATing KEK)
Taiwan*
At least Jiqiren had a positive winrate
kenobi become the best mongolian owl player
I think to qualify as Mongolian I have to throat sing as good as them
owl karaoke when
Depends if you're still doing that chess tournament
im not
I will not sing at 8am
u will
nah sans cant sing
no point in karaoke if you're going in expecting people to sing well
I have prepped drinks for this week
wrong
why
I have bugger all free time and I'm moving
under 18
he’s in proper/haksal/leave jail
🥴
me: mentions a minor
paris fan: 🥴
what
who
daanformvp
this offseason been silly
i feel like s9mm gonna be permabenched when they sign a korean tank
Sources: The Los Angeles Valiant are to release DPS player Zou “MYKaylee”Zijie prior to the start of the season.
Multiple factors including scrim performance and behaviour have lead to this decision.
uh oh...
Do the valiant even have MyKaylee signed? Lol
I thought he was on charge and Val only had Diya and Becky
innovation diya becky
Excuse me?
I’m paid
innovation diya becky
And kaylee isn’t on charge
but yeah dumb halo
or troll halo
I don’t think mykaylee is SMT
wait I’m thinking of snt
Valiant had MyKaylee signed?
That’s true I cannot sing
I tried giving my nan access to Overwatch to play and she couldn’t get past the tutorial
honestly I think ed should scrim
Still an improvement over Uvalo
me and lsd tankline
levity sans dps
empathy memeicus support
we roll in 3k scrims ez
Nonono put me on support 
No.
Alright I’ll heal as soldier
yes
sans dps 
“One of our dps is slacking and it’s not Mega”
smh without me?
Yes without you
Duel showering is overrated and actually consumes more water than it saves
When the participants are too busy having sexual intercourse it is true
Also you said duel showering not duo showering
Which makes me think you guys are jousting in the shower
Slippery brawl
Fuck off
My tank is great
73 percent win rate on sigma
It's hard to play rien on 200 ping
Also Dallas beats the hunters
I was doing fine
no you suck
No u
Nope
you saw my 360 trick shot pulse into a backflip 3k that got ruined by lamp
dumpass
dumpy ass
i legit have to talk a different language when i talk to u
u speak english at home
and u still sound like a dumbass
🌞
🦈
“Paris aren’t bottom 3”
uvalo u dont speak
Every 3rd word doesnt make any sense
I got a shit one
just get a blue snowball
The one that broke was like 50 and it lasted 3 months
bruh why
there won't be a face of ow like super
someone on dallas maybe
Sparkle
probably Space or Sparkle
sparkle would be cool
jack
apr1ta
apr1ta
apr1ta
uvalo
What do you want moe
please refrain from using the lord's name in vain
Now that I think about it I blame Mike for bieng invisible when we were playing
Your name is jack?
nah
what is it then
i know uvalos irl name
no one asked
I know Ian’s irl name
a lot of people do
Ian you suck
okay orisa
Ian threw our 5 stack
i know mystarys irl name
what 5 stack
most i have done with ed was a 4 stack
We 5 stacked yesterday and you threw
i wanna join a 5 stack
i was not there yesterday i was at work lmao
rent free in lsd's head
You joined vc for a few seconds
And brought the morale down significantly
Empathy got diffed so did sans
just to call u all virgins and leave
I was not talking
Are you all on crack or something
I also could not hear anyone
🥵
🚦
Lsd was hard coping because of a bap
No I wasn’t
Ok soft coping
you soft coped my pulse bomb too
Ian you are the number one ranked 5k sr mental barrier
What does that mean
dude Im so glad saya is popping tf off in valorant
How comes these random people keep coming in our group chat
idk who’s trolling and inviting them
Sans threw on bap
so hard
but you threw too
How did I throw on orisa
you were rio
No
did nothing
wow ping on orisa
orisa sounds not affected by ping
I placed a shield
140 ping + miscommunication
you can see in front of you
To see if your team would be in front
Yeah and I thought everyone else wouldn’t be far behind
2x your sr + ratio
Plus I had my laptop on battery saver
nice mic
Lsd you suck
no
Sans you did feed tho
lsd is the most talented player in here tf you mean he sucks?
Half your age 2x your sr
Not saying a lot since you both suck and I was on ping but still
i need a good mic so u can call sans a cunt
Half my age?
I’m 9
I'm not 18
shit
Wierdo
Fuck you got me there
I play with you guys obviously I'm not gonna have high sr
EU plat is NA silver
stfu LSD
cope
Na gold is EU bronze
And get hard carried
stfu UVALO
who wants to play
Fortnite on ping sucks
I'll carry you ian dont worry
You say that as if it’s hard to shoot children
I can’t aim
Sans you are one of those children
I am 18 years of age
didn’t they remove building recently
who would want to play with you bronze dps
I am forced to play tank with sans and ian
lsd and I have a good duo
“My dps may be bronze but im better individually it’s my team”
but i am 100% sure im better then most gold dps players
I still have a 73 win rate with sig
second we add anyone else but levity we lose
yes
exactly
hard cope
Mike you were invisible on tank
my dps is good
Just not better than me at the pugs 
I never played tank?
i popped off
that was empathy
he pooped off
Junkertown
oh junkertown I was on tank
You played tank
yeah but that’s a shitty map
i got most of the picks on my team
You popped into our backline without cooldown and died within 2 seconds
if I can’t lock rein I can’t do anything
surely
what hero was i
Reaper
you also fed my widow on tracer
How do you expect me to carry on tank as orisa if mike and empathy as my ot
Itch
Shut up
im going to eat a apple soon
My phone doesnt wanna autocorrect
all cause of you guys
at least you understand
mystary got 5-1d in an orisa 1v1
How do you get that bad
I DONT PLAY ORISA
Cope
wait y'all 1v1d orisa only?? 💀
you were the one who picked orisa and the car game
You didn’t win once
Cope
Cope incoming
like legit
Hard cope
i forgot how to get into the car
Cope levels are extreme
Too much cope
“I suddenly forgot how to play after you started winning”
Rude
i legit forgot
not even lying
That's the worst thing anyone has said to me
cope
We should report mystary
NO
He is rude
Omg that's so bad
nononoonononononono
the toxicity... 😔
he also said he will drink spit after I rolled him in a rein 1v1
WHEN DID I SAY TAMHAMMT
Ed is for nice people not rude people
ikr these people so toxic
We should tell hugo mystary has been bullying people
i apologized
Uvalo
Would you forgive a murderer if he apologized??
Ian what u want
Paris
你⚾⚾
⭐❌❄️
u suck
^
I'd prob lose to lsd too
calm down you both suck their happy
I*
i dont think anyone believes that
he said I sucked a few minutes ago
become active on your ig
what
I follow you
u dont
Sources: The Los Angeles Valiant are to release DPS player Zou “MYKaylee”Zijie prior to the start of the season.
Multiple factors including scrim performance and behaviour have lead to this decision.
408
mykaylee competing with lige for the "not wanting to play" title
technically doable since the titans/runaway went on like a 30 game streak and the regular season is 24 games long
however, it's just so far beyond the realm of possibility that i can say that it won't happen with nigh absolute certainty.
titans streak was 19
then kariv said no
no because before that they won like 2 seasons in a row of contenders korea
talking about owl
well that's not what i was talking about
ok
its 2v 1
But something about sparkle
sparkle over kevster or peli alone
makes me believe
sparkle only better at genji doom, rest of his advantage is marginal and kevster better tracer echo
pelican better echo mei
sparkle better tracer
doha sparkle beat peli kevster any day
actually high
doha better then peli
s3 had so many good rookies
actually trolling now
stfu please
Name 5
just please stop
and edison is s tier
Though not announced yet they have got Sasin under contract atm
whomegalul
no
edison wasn't
rookie player edison
:(
also didn't mention Ivy
criminal
CHA RUE
or sparple
or hanbin
and feilder
Or yaki
or yaki
best rookies was alarm ans lip xzi crong
or lsd's mother
don't forget the goat Illicit
No
what
bqb is good but hs is extremely stacked
Actually trolling
bqb was rookie in s4
no
and fleta was rookie s3
i think the best rookie is haksal
sparkle is one of the most overrated players in owl
people think he’s an mvp level fdps
he is
he’s just not lmao
on his heroes he is
on genji and doom yes
sparkle is only S tier on genji doom
Too bad this game requires flexibility
but those are meme heroes
rest he is sillied by other S tier fdps
he is s tier
duh
give me profit too
once again, obvious
fleta worst starter on shanghai still great
both have significantly deeper hero pools
broken team
Fleta s tier?
fleta a
Fleta is S
no lie
everyone else on shanghai but fleta is S
Stop trying to be different lol
oh fate might be A
No
greatest pharah alive
I don’t think fleta is S
Fate best mt imo
Cuz ur dumb
S tier for me on fdps is just proper pelican
proper is hitscan
Fleta is barely worse than pelican
no profit? or fleta
shut up mike
if proper is hitscan I’ll move fleta to S
you are actually dumb mike
you bandwagon
how am I bandwagon
at what
apr1ta > proper
Overwatch
that is not specific
worst take i've ever heard
that's like rating flex supports and main tanks in the same category
even the bqb was rookie s4 take was better
Leave doesn’t exist
proper doesnt exist
mike is acting real big for a side character
Where is yaki
and yaki
where is libero
Where is ivy haksal
leave proper lip all hitscans with good flex
striker can flex
He hasn’t played any non hs other than hanzo I think
forgot shy
shy is the 4th
and pharah s2 or 3
Flora
FLORA
rookie of the week flora?
shy blows flora out of the water
No
yes
Rank gwangboong hs
shy ehco is like top 5
S tier he beat lip
I did
Ok
Feather echo won
I will give list
EZ


