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Fr
Hugo u gave up already lmaoo dude
still always a shock person, im sticking
Wait is carpe actually the last man standing 
Hahahhaah XD
Same, that's what I was thinking. Thought he'd ride out this season
That’s what they said
I mean yeah, without his leadership I don't think the team is going to be good and I've only been around for a year so I don't have any like. Allegiance lol
Carpe holding flag still
When they resigned him
He was also the captain
I never seen them won a tournament so I don't have the same connection to shock that some of you guys have
is super still playing this season or hes out for good?
Not sure
Best tank in owl history gone sadge
@mortal cipher u like harry Potter or Emma Watson?
they have to take the ow2 from super now right?
He didn’t make it clear but it looks like he’s done
damn
No he's definitely done
Ones fictional ones not so
not playing this season
this was sudden news lol
now they have to find a new tank
guys who is "super"
Some retire for mental and return later or retire and return again
i thought the contracts were locked in already
Gator gonna roll evryone 1v6 charge lmao
oh yeah striker!
You never know
I'm prob going to go for the other California team because I like space
tom brady lel
he was probably big enough that he was able to negotiate for an exit
those who retire from mental don't have streaming careers like super does
And Jjonak is leaving for mental most of them are posters who have been in the league for awhile
Reposting this
Good point
Moments should be captured
Why is shock that high up
if he spends this next year building his brand he'll be bigger than owl tbh lmfao
who knows super will unretire just in time for playoffs
even if the tank isnt that good the dps and supports play a big role in it
Is this pre season 4

it says season 4 at the top lol
I think now the DPS line is going to get relied on mega
I mean is it pre season or mid
That one was just rough
hahahah laugh at the shock fans
Team without super
Hahahahaha XD
Shock fans can’t catch a break it appears
Shock stopped winning, shock lost super. 90% of shock fans gone.
Ggs
hahahahah
Hahahahaha d
Back to normal non bandwagon fans let’s go
Yeah im moving to gladiators
XD
Back to being a 100% neutral owl fan I guess
Shock fans aren’t bandwagon fans Nei more
who cares about the shock not good anymore still rooting for them regardless
I think u can support shock cuz in season 4 shock did great without super
Shock did well with super
Man
come simp for void w me
at shanghai
They're still a good team but losing a tank this late into the season doesn't really give them too many options
no
This is gonna be a major tear for shock
I'm pretty sure glads will get rolled by Atlanta
exactly
u dont want to root for void wtf man
i will probably root for gladiators
i did say that even if shock loses super i would still support them
Just like how jjonak leaving seoul probably hurts then significantly
5v5 is gonna be weird
Yeah
waiting for 4v4 role lock
Watching owl without supporting a team is just waste of time
both of my favorite teams lost a core part of their team before the season started
i dont think jjonak leaving seoul did all that much
not a waste of time
Just root for everyone
tbh

Then
Jjonak still wants to compete.
Not rooting for anyone lets me enjoy the matches without emotional investment into them
Super's gone.
Even if u think it didnt jjonak is still a vet and very established
hahahahahahahha
That prescence will be felt
I mean yea theres smurf right
jjonak was one of my favorite players and i wanted to see his performance on a team that can afford not to build entirely around him
2x champ top 5 all time mt
i wonder if super will still primarily be an ow streamer
Yeah
But jjonka is litterally a zen character
probably not i would assume
But the involvement in owl will be gone and vanished if u do that
he's going to variety most likely
Didn’t Jjonak cause zen to get nerfed
no
Yea dude
he caused zen to not get buffed
Iirc the way he played to get them to fix zen in some aspects
Jjonak played zen like crazy lmao they nerfed him immediately
super prob gonna blow up soon similiar to xqc
I think it had to with his heads hitbox
super gonna be a 10k andy min
Well yes ye has a cult
That's where his stream has been going lately.
depends who he collabs w for how big he gets
I don't know if super can blow up like xqc
he is in texas which is massive for him
2018 mvp was not even a competition
his stream its entertaining enough on his own
as a streamer
blowing up like xqc is a 1 in a million event for a streamer
also true
But jjonak did great
Xqc has been at it for much longer
Super retires. XQC unretires. 
Simp for Seoul, watch 4am matches
oh no
That will be like god move but xqc isn't that good compared to super
Experience the pain of an Apac fan
Bring Back Bumper
script writers is on coke if that happens
It would be funny though.
what is happening to geguri nowadays
Xqc is good anyway doing wot he is now
She’s streaming as well
Sado to shock
Anyone can go pro if they have the competitive drive to do it and the means of playing.
first fem ow player, massive respect
??
Yeah
first female overwatch player geguri
yeah of course
the first one
patient zero if you will
She got accused of aim assist
so can i say women suck at ow or is that sexist
lmao based
I mean do you see any owl female players much
i mean if you look at it statistically, there are more men in Overwatch League than women.
Where is geguri? She kinda just shadow no jutsu
Mr 2L himself
she streams every now and then
im sad now
Yeah
super 
besides from streamers, pretty much non existent
hahahahahaha

Yeah prtty much
Not pretty much non-existent, literally non-existent.

lmao
Yeah basically streamer only and a few female every once in a awhile pop up@in contender or something
Which is like only two now
you think your gonna get someone better than the 2x Overwatch League Champion World Cup Champion Stage 2 Champion May Melee Champion Countdown a cup Champion Role Star 2x All Star All Star Winner MVP Candidate MVP Runner Up.
the GOAT win98
i mean ow playerbase its so small already, fem pros are far and few
Yeah
ik super isnt the best dw
there's two still in contenders? i dont remember any existing anymore after aspen stepped away from pro play
i mean super on anything other then reign is mid so
^^^
Aspen is the only other one I meant two counting geguri
geguri was cracked on zarya holy shit
Fr
proof that 80% of shock fans only support because of super. moment he retires people i've never seen before show up
i know right
Yeah
just unfortunate shes on the 0-100 dragons
Honestly
unfortunately void better
It wasn’t0-100 lol
Yeah sadly
sorry 0-200
she didnt want to play in s3 iirc
super is going to the big variety stream in the sky 
else we woudlve not gotten stand1 roadhog
i dont blame her
Yeah hog meta was dog water
i mean to be fair he played ow since he was 17
I was already skeptical on shock going in
I think shock was gonna do fine with their current roster
but losing super hurts a lot
What u mean Atlanta top 2 lol
Do they have a secondary tank
I can't think of a realistic replacement that would fill that void
Semi finals lmao
lets see if 02 blast shock can do it
just promote the o2 squad
sad hes gone but i think he made a smart decision in a hard place to be
I think shock can never win but still there is hope
Yeah
because i was under the assumption super was scrimming ow 2 as well right?
It’s unfortunate but tbh it was the right time to do it going into a new game is the best time to step down
hopefully super decides to irreparably damage relations with the league and leak everything about overwatch 2 and OWL season 5
But if super stops playing ow then it will massive loss for that ow game
he basically said once he started scrims back up he just didn't have the drive to keep going
damn for real?
last season mustve been bad bad
cant blame him tbh
internal wise
tin hat conspiracy time:
from how he talks about s4 there 100% was some not good shit happening
He said he thought he could go one more seasons but realized he couldn’t
super can tell us now what happened
keeping relations is good
why share that shit with the world, it's not gonna change nothin
He may you never know
I never thought shock will lose games against shangai i told here that shock matches looks like fixed game 🎯
based
Lmao
To be fair, Jake has been a menace in the Overwatch 2 beta. Boomed him into retirement on the ladder.
but still hopium from creators/dev secret zoom meeting
Jake playing his signature hero dung slinger
Jakerat is the culprit
Its true tho

Dung slinger lol
im glad he decided to take his own mental and retire, can never fault him for taking care of himself. can only see where shock goes from here
Yeah
alarm :(
Mental is more important
shock sign overwatch 2 hotshot felix "xQc" lengyel as tank for the san francisco shock
monke man
Here comes the jungle
literally farming ow2 release
We're going to have a fissure moment
hopefully
whatever happens, we can all agree overwatch its not battleborn type of dead
Super leaking what OW2 has in store

He did accidentally leak OW2 on his steam on accident once so maybe
xqc did that once lol
he leaked the loading screen and freaked out
Yeah
what did blizzard told him lol?
I mean it’s under a NDA
its simple really
it would be funny if someone accidentally leaked hours of gameplay and the number values on every character and ability
Lol
just a bit funny
a little bit of tomfoolery?
Dev announcement said that the ow2 beta was given out to pros and blizzard devs. XQC is supposedly neither. XQC leaks that he has access to the ow2 beta on stream. No other non-pro streamer as far as I know has done this.
XQC is a signed, unannounced player for an OWL team.

Little bit of trolling
exactly
wait a minute
they said blizzard partners got it too
oh yeah
Owl returnal
blizzard associates*
Then who is partnered with
Cqc
Xqc works for shock
XQC return HYPIUM

if thats the case then all the big streamers should have access right?
like emongg flats
also halo being smug on twitter lmao
etc
The XQC returnal
xqc is the new director of balance and in the patch notes for every nerf its just gonna say “we nerfed this hero because who the hell thought this was a good idea”
Comeback
xqc gonna become the biggest content creator on the planet opening week
Definitely
if xqc plays ow2 at least for a bit that would be good for the game
He still has more hours on ow than super
but not the beta because if more people sign up i wont get in
I’m so sad super left he was the reason I climbed out of plat playing rein 
time to buy 17 accounts
Goodbye x2 Overwatch League Champion, World Cup Champion Stage 2 Champion, May Melee Champion, Countdown A Cup Champion, Role Star, 2x All Star, All Star Winner, MVP Candidate, MVP runner up, first ballot hall of fame Super TF. 
Lol
theyre shock fans

let them mourn for the day
Yeah
We’ve been suffering for the last year.
Usually the lurkers come out on a major Announcement
you finished 7th
I miss my shock 
that's not suffering
Why did no lurkers come out when they announced BeBe signing?
Can I not be sad that super left? 
the real ones suffering are fl mayhem fans
Because people think Bebe isn’t that good and it’s in Shanghai
All we’ve got left is Viol2t now 
they do good at the start and then crash
shock fans getting viol2t lucio in 2022 
Hehe
Who’s the captain now violet
viol2t playing wrecking ball since he technically is a hitscan
Violet gonna pull a DPS
viol2t junk only
Lol
5v5 but its 5 junks vs 5 other junks
Junks melee is hitscan
in owl
you guys remember the runaway vs lunatic hai exhibition showmatch in 2020?
god that was so good.
I think
they do not have a main support
their tankline is stacked
its not
Supers the literal only tank on the roster
yeah and they can still sign a main tank except for the fact that the league is about to start on 5 weeks
They let smurf go
no MS would be a big issue if lucio was hard meta
yeah and we dont know if it will or wont be
its kinda dumb to just assume double flex will be meta
you need to have that flexibility in case.
Is there even any serviceable tanks in FA right now.
Let’s see who they sign as tank
they could go full korean like I thought they were going to do originally
Unless they sign someone from contenders.
If the Shock can land a good tank they’ll be fine honestly.
stackkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkked
They could do better than before if you think abt it
Super if anything was hurting the team considering he causes them to force Rein
And less of an English barrier.
causes them to speak english*
shock still like 7th overall
yeah but you know what's better than one tank? two tanks
Choi come outta retirement we need you.
they could sign clestyn belosrea
Yeah which probably should’ve been a good idea to have
unfortunately
nyxl has clestyn locked
Sado ???
they sign ameng xray drop s9mm and sign kaneki
i thought we all agreed xqc was getting signed we’ll be fine
spark v2
Ameng is still an FA??
he is the key piece to any championship roster
How??
He said so
looking for a new owl team.
First I have confidence to play all tank heroes well. Secondly, if your team is going to win the championship then I'm going to be the final piece of the puzzle.
Contact: wlkc123@126.com
asian battlenet ID: ameng#4896
3719
321
the GOAT is still available

Promo attack ???
yes
Ah
dont tell me you dont like attack
Yeah
attack is good
Clestyn deserves better than SF Cock
Clearly Fusion didnt think so
Fusion dropped Sado for Mano, Heesu for sHockWave and FunnyAstro for FiXa so their opinion doesn’t matter
Mano wasn’t bad
Shh. Dont say that around him
Did heesu want to leave
He'll go feral
Did you watch the Fusion matches with a blindfold this season?
Nei I didn’t say he was amazing I just said he wasn’t horrible
u cant blame heesu leaving on fusion
heesu wanted to be the top dog
Yeah
he was never gonna be the top dog on carpe's team
But 70% of the time Fusion played ball
That’s all I was saying was he wasn’t horrible
remember that one time where fusion decided to stare at jinmu pharah for a whole map
Lol
and then shock did the same thing in the quarterfinals
Which map was that
junkertown
Lol
Excluding the bottom 4 team main tanks there is an argument for Mano being one of the worst balls in the league
This year ???
ya
I would’ve taken Daan OGE and Yakpung over Mano unironically
Which hero is known for more
Lol
The issue with the Reign is the coach
not OGE or yakpung
Yes I would
daan maybe
you are actually grieving rn
u cope too much
Is Sephy for real the head coach for the Reign?
Not cope
yes
he's ur scapegoat
mano caused the visa issues
Yakpung was on a bad team with a worse coaching staff
he sabotaged the team
Logic 100
because u cant admit that 1. carpe isnt s tier 2. eqo washed 3. hotba mid
I literally said he was average off ball??
Philly’s issues were the visa’s
Yeah
hotba upper mid*
Hard to judge that roster when it hardly even practiced together
Yeah
we saw glimmers of godba come out every now and then
but he is not at full power yet
2022 will be the year
hotba had good zar
I think the whole Korea thing made it a whole mess
Carpe was 8th in hs, EQO was mid af and bad on sombra I agree but Hotba was not a problem in the slightest
Yeah
Honestly
sHockWave was on the wrong team to prove himself
I think for a team barely together they did prtty well almost beat shock
Yeah
valyn is different
I just keep going back to that Illios map vs Shock in the playoffs
Watching Mano blunder and feed was horrifying
Yeah that was roughy
After Carpe got those opening kills as well
I’ve had those experiences where I do insane plays and Nei one does anything
Horrible sight to see

Should’ve signed Fissure
I’ll agree
The OGE argument is invalid and my anti Mano religion blindsighted me from that
But Yakpung, under a good coaching staff, with team mates better in every single role, would’ve been better than Mano
Why can’t I post pictures
Not regular bozo
sans as a permanent member of the esports discussion security council i would like to ask you to change your name because you keep scaring me into thinking a mod is in this channel
even though empathy is no longer a mod i still suffer from ptsd
Mods don’t exist here I have seen the language people use here
Especially if you insult the average as fuck Profit
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
gonna kms real quick
Correction, the either god tier or average as fuck depending on the day of the week Profit
- Dallas Fuel
- Shock
- Gladiators
- Defiant
- Outlaws
- Uprising
- Justice
- Eternal
- Reign (Unless they get a new coach)
- NYXL
- Titans
- Mayhem
- London Shitfire
cool
I am actually crying a bit jesus fuck
?????
?????
why bring this up N O W ?
i like to kick babies
HAHAAHAHHAAHHAHA
👶 🦶
DAAN > SUPER
daan bad
ur bad
i beat all of u in a 1v1
no
that made me kinda laugh a bit
you are 1v1ing tomorrow arent you?
and you lost?
tomorrow
mf can see the future
its not that hard to predict you losing to empathy
predict some bitches
why bitches
i do not have faith in shock dominating this season
they werent gonna do that in the first place
He sucks
Did she stop being a mod recently
On ball yes
he retired months ago lol
i love balls
Ah i See i does require attention
Is it too much to hope it’s April fools early
s9mm more likely
or put viol2t on tank proper on support (since proper can play anything) and then s9mm and kilo dps line
Violet on ball returns
San Francisco rolled
Sfs becomes London
lack of mt and ms

very unfortunate
The San Francisco Shock vs the Vancouver Titans in 2019 was one of the league best rivalries.
Three years on and only Viol2t and Twilight remain in the league. Madness when you think about the talent both teams had at the time
only the FS
man
Twilight switched Canadian team
Viol2t, Twilight, smurf and Striker
thats 2020 buddy
architect too
Yeah
Yeah
Now he’s on Toronto
imma check
What's funny is that 2019 vancouver players all fell off a collective cliff 
whatever
Sadly
bumper more like bye
Is Super is gone then the Shock are finished
most of them at least on shock are still good, but so many of them are just not playing
Runaway mode like runaway from the league
Yeah twilight was in 2019
None of these discussions matter
The 2022 Dallas Fuel is going to be so good that we will forget these teams
Seominsoo more like seominstayy out of owl 
super gone from owl nothing matters
pain
Nothing matters we’re like 2 months away anyway
I am pretty sure Bumper isn't a real person and was just an Open AI live test of their self-learning OWL player. After the year was done their contract ended.

they bumped him down to hard ai overwatch bot
the people still playing are Striker, Architect, Viol2t, smurf and Twilight,
twilight still lives
from 2019 Shock V Titans
all of them played for shock at one point, gaining a champion or two in total
I like how all of them are big names and then just architect
He hasn't been a big name in like 3 years
he's played more than twilight in the last 3 years
im genuinely interested what they will replace super with
Violet the selfish support
s9mm
his rein be nutty 😩 🥶
who will be the face of owl?
might fall to someone like carpe/sparkle/fearless/fleta/space/danteh
I can def see it being space
None of them have a big streamer presence
there will be no new face
for a little bit at least
maybe one of them will pop off with OW2 streams
I’d say whoever is the most known or longest lasting player
Whoever has been there the longest or the most noticeable presence
people with personailty
Well maybe if we get live events this year
and some of the players do some memey shit
supers still gonna play overwatch you know
Yeah definitely
yeah but he isnt in OWL so he cant be the face of OWL
who knows
wym who knows
He could be a caster
he fuckin retired
you dont have to be playing matches to be involved in a scene
He said this isn’t the last of owl for me
super does not have the required vocal articulation to cast
i simply cannot believe it
he still can make appearanecs
Yeah that’s wot he said he’ll still be involved
maybe he be on the desk or something
Yeah maybe
How come
OWL is big for OW2. You can't have someone with no experience cast
Good point
Especially when people like LEGDAY are available
Why would you get super in when we don't even know if bren and sideshow aren't confirmed to be back yet
"WHOEVER SAID LIGHTING DOESN'T STRIKE TWICE HAS NEVER MET THE SAN FRANSCISO SHOCK THE 2020 OVERWATCH LEAGUE CHAMPION"
PAIN
They’re still doing Overwatch league but not casting
whoever said lightning doesn't strike twice doesn't know what a lightning rod is
Lol
big mistake
nah
Depends
Plat chat costreams will pop off
Yeah
Egg will curse NA
Sparkle or Space
as much as i enjoy Bren and sideshows val commentatin, i'll miss them on owl
they wont 'cast' co streams on plat chat
guys i have a question
So who’s left that’s been on the sane team since day one
carpe
Carpe
Is that it
with his 27 year contract
Yes
Besides Gator and Hawk
if you're all gonna come into this channel don't leave after today
Jjonak and super were the others that were on the same team since season 1
i was here the whole time
Once you come in you can’t leave
Super just retired jjonak went to Seoul
Shanghai Dragons general manager Yang "Van" Van has been on the team since day 0
not you
jjonak, super and carpe were all on their respective team from season 1-4

2021 was his redemption arc
Carpe only one to stay to season 5
Indeed
watch carpe make an official announcement to 'seal the deal'
Yep
Pls don’t
y'all are forgetting about flow3r
they should make a movie abt it
Also yay so good
he was playing on liberos account s1-3 and feath5rs account s4
now he's on yaki's account
feather was below average in s4
I mean it’s a tru game story they made a history video on owl channel
Ooh
yes
flow3r had a down year
unfortunately
Super 😔
Rip
I was debating between making my bio this or "Two time Overwatch League Champion, Stage 2 Champion, World Cup Champion, May Melee Champion, Countdown Cup Champion, Role Star, All-Star, MVP Runner-Up, Genji God, Michael Jordan of Overwatch, Millionaire Streamer, Greatest of All Time.
super." but the second one is too long, Liscord
i have a good bio for you
holy shit optic is just gaming
someone hacked into saya's PC
Please no
so guys
best rein in league currently?
lmao jjonak carpe super retire
well jjonak didnt retire
No one will ever be better then super feelsbittersweetman
its gator
Oh the video doesn’t embed
Wow
gator or fearless imo
3rdplaceless wishes he was on the same level as the goat gator on rein
Makes brad and sideshow not castin hurt even more
damn just woke up and everyone talking about the GOAT NA MT retirin and im jus sittin here like im still playin bruh 💀
426
Wake up babe new Reiner tweet
so who is the new poster boy for the OWL?
leave
leave is more popular than all of them combined
Yeah
Danteh
Inb4 super goes to valorant
he would never
Yeah I know that but more thinking NA face
Nah LOL
dude went from tf2 soldier to reinhardt
I don’t think I’ve seen him play Val since the initial hype
Who do we think Shock signs?
brad
Danteh, SPACE or Sparkle
Leave
all are talented and have some streaming stuff, they just need to grind it more and have the team present them better
Not danteh that's for sure
no idea sadge
guy can get 10k+ on twitch, all he needs is to be a alcoholic
is iron ot?
They’ll sign flats
who plata
so funny
hopefully coluge doesn't drag down the team with potential toxicity
I want him to get signed badly man
wait actually
How long u been in a coma for
double shield
launch sig
Anyways
no
shock will probably still be competitive
coluge is good if he does get signed
maybe they get an igl main support? who knows
its nrg we're talking about
They would have to sign an absolute bottom feeder tank to push themselves out of contention for the top
^^
Just the main issue is losing a consistent player that gave you performances that kept you on par with top teams
So trying to find someone similar to that will be next to impossible imo with the current pool to pick from
but I think you can find a really mechanically nutty tank to come in and be servicable
We also have to take into account the new tank will be able to grow and learn with crusty/ninek coaching them, so they could elevate a player
Gargoyle is a good player to sign
a proven Tank and MS (MOTH MAN) or something
I am betting shock signs super as streamer like how glads did birdring
actually...wouldn't be too bad
It's the opposite
The won't be too anymore
They won't be top anymore*
Without super
Oops
I'm back
So i was saying
They won't be top anymore unless they sign an absolute banger tank
If they settle with anything less than "wow"
Won't be contenders anymore
They were already kinda iffy
they werent contenders in the first place for me
How is yay so good
no ot or ms 0 faith
yes but from a mechanics standpoint a dva player will always play dva better than a rein player
It's ct cided
So depending on who they pickup not to worried about them
its also kinda needed because it's pretty rare for one player to be able to play 8 heroes to a high ability
He’s been banging the entire series
Defiant are underrated tbh
The guard was lagging
Guard r winning 2-1
guys i beat mystary is a orisa 1v1
this series has proven that na map pools are fine until u gotta do a finals series
Ab to be 2-2
Ur ct sided
Gg
Ur head is CT sided
Ur mother was ct sided in bed last night
That's right she fainted because of how bad in bed u are
ur momma died on ct side last night
Who asked?
her last moments were her screaming my name and a wet slapping noise
you
is envy out of valorant?
Not sure wasn’t he tank player for Shanghai
Rebrand to optic
yeah just checked
he's on a japanese team
FENNEL
Is that for sure
no
Or speculation
I didn’t
but i'd hope that more interest in the game post OW2 post microsoft acquisition = more owl teams
Didn’t think so
It would be nice to get more teams especially from eu and Apac maybe some na ( not as much since that’s the majority of the teams )
yes
i would like to see a german, russian, indian (probably wont happen because no viewership) and a south east asia team
Aussie team when
does anyone know where the nyxl hq is
imma break in and find the sixth player myself
cringe!
the japanese jugs
Lol
they r lagging
fns has birthday week buff
cant do anything
he'll be back to being a liability in iceland
WHAT THE FUCK DID I WAKE UP TO
optic abt to win
MF SUPER IS GONE
SEXY
eco frags
dont ever say that about the goat pujan
uninformed take
its a known fact
wtf
overwatch hitscan aim diff
SAYA
that is sadness
saya is jesus
why does fns not just wait for his stun
guy just walks out and isnt even looking in the right place
maybe midvy was right...
The Guard is winning the entire fucking thing
end of shock honestly
wrong
they have proper
however this is a significant blow
however they have proper
u can give proper 4 other bronze players
always winnable
End of Seoul honestly
Proper already has 4 bronze players on shock
Cause purple > violet
super live for not even 10 mins 7k viewers lmao







