esports-discussion

[earnest leaf]

he is perma ulting

[violet turret]

Nero 76 was betta

[twin bloom]

Best solider is Blase'

[worn falcon]

Jake Soldier

[tawdry hamlet]

Are you forgetting the soldier specialist for s4 Boston??? Chex literally only played soldier to counter Naga pharah for some reason he's clearly the soldier goat

[next mesa]

Did it work

[earnest leaf]

had to carry iris and merit in ranked, sad to say I will have to move houston down in my power rankings 😢

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean Paris lost that game so you tell me

Granted they lost with chex benched again but still

[earnest leaf]

It would be fun to do "what ifs" in owl

like what if someone like chex wasn't on a perma shitter team

would he look good or meh

[next mesa]

What if myunbong didn't go to fucking boston

Because keep in mind he looked better than alarm in contenders

[earnest leaf]

he'd be exposed as an ana otp faster

[next mesa]

No he wouldnt

He'd be alarm level

[earnest leaf]

kappa

[next mesa]

He was legimately better than alarm

[earnest leaf]

in contenders

[tawdry hamlet]

What if rush wasnt the meta in stage one and Florida looked dog shit the entire time instead of inspiring fake trust in them as a contender when everyone was mid besides gnj and yaki

[earnest leaf]

In reality they had an easy play-ins path

also they somehow got omega mental boomed after it

[tawdry hamlet]

They felt so much better than they were and that's honestly it, oge mega boom aside stage one massively inflated expectations much like Philly

[earnest leaf]

like

they had to play toronto, then washington

[tawdry hamlet]

People thought Philly could match Shanghai when in reality they were mid

[earnest leaf]

and the bottom bracket was shock/fuel/houston

[tawdry hamlet]

But stage 1 made expectations high

[earnest leaf]

also I forgot

chengdu 3-2ed seoul twice to go into tourneys

then just had to beat nyxl in the last one

holy fuck I forgot seoul went to the countdown cup

no wonder since they won only 1 map

[willow tartan]

what if blizzard didn't drop massive balance changes before tournament playoffs

[earnest leaf]

s2/3/4 would have had the same winners imo

well 4 didn't have a balance patch

even if they did shd would have won most likely

idk enough on s1 to comment on it

[willow tartan]

mfw 2020 summer showdown

[earnest leaf]

if there was no genji meta shock/shd would have won that tourney

[tawdry hamlet]

Seoul and Washington when they excel in playoffs with road hog meta

😐

[earnest leaf]

simple double standards

mickey mouse genji meta that let mid teams shine for no reason? people loved it

mickey mouse hog meta that let mid teams shine? people hate it

even though the genji meta was hardcore double shield

[willow tartan]

i hate both

no bias... obviously.

just out of principle.

[earnest leaf]

both were cringe

Replace genji with doom in that meta and people would have hated it

[plush grail]

genji requires skill and is fun to watch

hog is legit just

peak, try to hook, and then hide till cooldown

[earnest leaf]

genji in that meta was boring though

all he did was dash through halts and spam right clicks on tanks

then bongo blade with halt

[plush grail]

pretty sure seagull has said this a few times

people prefer dps metas over tank metas

[willow tartan]

hog is a dps

[north relic]

Owlel

[vagrant jacinth]

OWLEL 29

Bungled my second guess lmao

[north relic]

that brings you down on the owlel tier list

[hot onyx]

Technically with the genji meta the competition wasn’t non existent and the (arguably) best teams in each region at that time were all finalists whereas with the playoff hog meta it rendered 2 good teams useless during the playins and 2 great teams that were title contenders to be so bad they didn’t even make finals

Also OWLEL 🦍

[north relic]

||5head me guessed the American dps so I wouldn’t lose the 50/50 on reign||

[plush grail]

stop spoiling me

[north relic]

Dumbass

actual ape

[hot onyx]

||fair logic but when there was also the Spitfire dps and Naga to consider from my POV I wanted to get into the head of the OWLEL maker and guess the most obscure player possible||

[frosty patrol]

owlel

[willow tartan]

dont bunch shanghai in with the fusion

at least we made it close

[hot onyx]

They were both teams that had to adapt to an unfun unlucky hog meta and Shanghai adapted slightly better

[willow tartan]

its not luck. blizzard intentionally did it

0 chance they didnt know what they were doing

[hot onyx]

“Hey Carpe top 3 hitscan of 2020, don’t play that, here’s your tracer script”

[willow tartan]

just that after season 3 the backlash was big enough for them to finally learn their lesson

[hot onyx]

Yeah, and they never patched OW1 again

[willow tartan]

prefer that over bogus patches that ruin the competitive integrity of the esport

[hot onyx]

Depends on the level of bogus

If it’s a meta that’s slightly silly then fine

But hog sigma double sniper

Isn’t fun for anyone involved

[willow tartan]

im sure gesture was having a blast

[frosty patrol]

fusion eternal was as close as possible

or if you mean the hog patch

then yeah shanghai made it close

[hot onyx]

He means the hog patch

Shanghai did make it close

But imagine if both of them didn’t have Stand1 Sado forced on hog

[frosty patrol]

don’t diss the stand1 hog

it was like

10th

probably

justice were the 6th best team in season 3 and 8th in season 4, this is a fact

[hot onyx]

Technically if playoffs are all that matter there’s an argument for them being 5th and 7th

[frosty patrol]

6th because for ties regular season record trumps

[hot onyx]

Depending on how you rate the 2020 NYXL and 2021 Fusion

Oh yeah

[frosty patrol]

wasn’t apac losers bracket finalist 2020 nyxl?

they had a better season

[hot onyx]

Yes

[frosty patrol]

and who else lost round 1 losers 2021, fusion right?

[hot onyx]

They wouldn’t have if they had a better main tank over Mano

[frosty patrol]

they were 1 spot higher in overall standings I think, maybe wrong

[hot onyx]

Yes Fusion

[frosty patrol]

so justice 6th 2020 7th or 8th 2021

hunters we don’t talk about 2020

2021 they shit the bed

[hot onyx]

Orange team coming second

I know the feeling

[frosty patrol]

no not that

playoffs

[hot onyx]

Oh yeah playoffs

[frosty patrol]

but yes they were 2021’s 2nd place orange team

2021 countdown cup finals and 2020 summer showdown finals

both bangers ending in orange team Ls

[hot onyx]

Very true

The world would be a more peaceful place if Fusion and Hunters had a title

[frosty patrol]

yes

2nd place orange team solidarity

😔

[willow tartan]

yveltal thrower

[frosty patrol]

in playoffs yes

cdc and ss he was good

[willow tartan]

i am surprised korea fans havent crucify him yet

boycott from league

[frosty patrol]

if they did that they’d have to crucify like half of everyone in 2020

a fuck ton of players got benched for playing too much valorant

and decay was in mald jail

actually half of 2020 fuel would’ve been hung at the gallows

[willow tartan]

how many vod reviews do you guys do everyday?

[north relic]

0

[little tusk]

I wonder what makes profit such a good tracer

imo when it comes to raw aim I think he gets outshined by quite a bunch of other tracers

[frosty patrol]

for chess or ow?

[frosty patrol]

profit is really consistently smart and pretty good mechanically

he’s not a top tracer he’s just very good

not top 3 but still amazing

[little tusk]

who are your top 3 @frosty patrol

[frosty patrol]

i’ll just list players better at tracer

lip leave proper apr1ta kevster decay striker

[north relic]

Striker leave proper kevster yaki top 5

[frosty patrol]

not in order but yeah

[north relic]

Top 3 is too hard

[frosty patrol]

top 3 is probably like

proper leave kevster because I’m holding off on striker for a bit

striker is in reality probably top 3 but I must see if he’s gone washed

[little tusk]

in terms of raw aim decay is prob the best imo

I wont count proper yet cuz he hasnt had his owl debut

[last nimbus]

Decay is a soy

[north relic]

All of the top 5 tracers I’ve listed have nutty mechanics

[willow tartan]

LIP raw mechanics

[cunning patrol]

Lip has the best aim

[little tusk]

ya true lip is prob better

[plush grail]

I watch Paris vods every day while I'm cuddling with sans

[raw ermine]

y'all think they'll do pickems this year?

[north relic]

Probably

[cedar oasis]

Owlel

Ez

[plush grail]

ez

owlel btw

[frosty patrol]

luigi failed, opened it on his phone and got it in 1

[sullen berry]

OWLEL 30 EZ 1/8
🟩🟩🟩🟩✅

[hot onyx]

anybody down for a scrim before my match with dunamis?

[plush grail]

u suck at chess

[hot onyx]

I know but I beat you

[keen plume]

@plush grail wanna play our matches?

[hot onyx]

so that makes me better

https://lichess.org/0PDDnQyj

(scrim)

[willow tartan]

you're 1500?

[hot onyx]

no idea

[willow tartan]

wym

what is your rank

[granite sail]

He haven’t done placement I think

[willow tartan]

o

[keen plume]

ye, "1500?" means that.

[frosty patrol]

? means you’re placing

[willow tartan]

how have sans not odne placement bu thes league

[frosty patrol]

half the league either plays on a different site or has no idea how to play

[hot onyx]

fuck that was a missclick

didn't mean to castle

[keen plume]

k

[balmy wolf]

U played Ian already?

[keen plume]

No. Sadly.

[hot onyx]

fucking horse

just when i thought i had the hang

[keen plume]

😄

[hot onyx]

oh shit i noticed

gg wp

[keen plume]

i moved the rock there to capture the queen and then almost forgot to take.

gg wp

i dont want to talk about that

[hot onyx]

thats rather sour

you still win though

[balmy wolf]

He always wins

[keen plume]

that was a mate in 1 but i moved to the wrong place....

i moved faster than i could think about that

[hot onyx]

i saw it

[keen plume]

gg

[hot onyx]

turn 42 you could've mated with the pawn

to g4

gg

[keen plume]

oh thanks.

computer doesnt show me that as a fault.

thats stupid, it was clearly the best turn, with the pawn

[frosty patrol]

cant wait for all star week

for hand and brain

and bullet

all star week will have a bullet tournament

and a hand and brain one

[hot onyx]

bullet?

[frosty patrol]

you have 1 minute

[hot onyx]

it takes me that long to have 5 turns

[keen plume]

1+0? Ouch, that favors experienced players a lot.

[frosty patrol]

it’s all star week lmao, it’s for fun

[keen plume]

Come on that analyse on lichess doesnt show me missed forcedmates as blunders.

[frosty patrol]

well the whole league is for fun

[keen plume]

xD

[hot onyx]

I am the NicoGDH of the all stars then

[north relic]

I’m a bullet god

My brain thinks on a different wavelength

[cedar oasis]

Sans is slow as fuck

He takes 5 min per move

[frosty patrol]

molanran on the allstar team

[hot onyx]

that is a hard exaggeration

[cedar oasis]

You do tho

And somehow still pick the worst possible move

[hot onyx]

its more like 1 minute every 4-5 moves

[cedar oasis]

1 min per move

[keen plume]

its like Sans says, 1 move every 4-5 minutes

[frosty patrol]

I should make a bot that calculates the worst move possible

[hot onyx]

alright Uvalo if im that bad challenge me

[north relic]

Just make uvalo play

[cloud latch]

lol

[cedar oasis]

Lsd I rolled you

[willow tartan]

is brenshow gonna be casting?

[frosty patrol]

We don’t have the budget

maybe when platchat sponsors us

or t-mobile

[north relic]

In scrims you did

I’m currently top NA

Also you didn’t even roll me

[frosty patrol]

strength of schedule

I do have you and I above Levy

[willow tartan]

is there any reason why contenders players wouldnt have access to the pro client when the public beta drops

[frosty patrol]

decided that in a writers meeting earlier

[north relic]

ikr my first match was so easy

I have urumir next

That will determine by true place

[frosty patrol]

2-1

3-0 urumir

[north relic]

Nah

3-2 me

[willow tartan]

whats the point of conferences if everyone plays everyone anyway

[balmy wolf]

Trust me

[north relic]

For region excuse

[balmy wolf]

U will get smoked by urumir

[north relic]

Also you play the other region less

[north relic]

Nah I will make finals unexpectedly like the s4 reign

[balmy wolf]

That was expected tho

[north relic]

No

[willow tartan]

whoever made the format is dumb

[frosty patrol]

@keen plume what was the score of your match vs marbel again

3-0?

[balmy wolf]

Yea

[north relic]

Levy sucks for an IM

[balmy wolf]

I got rolled

[frosty patrol]

ty

[willow tartan]

cant u just give the vods

[north relic]

Yes I need urumir vods

[balmy wolf]

First one was close after that he embarrassed me

[north relic]

I need pictures of Spider-Man

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/take-the-l-loser-dance-gif-15111363

[sullen berry]

OWLEL 29, those of you playing must have finished now right

[keen plume]

Yes

[sullen berry]

Get shrekt on by AVRL who starts with carpe https://www.twitch.tv/avrl/clip/HungryFrozenNarwhalSpicyBoy-XwuAZ2eYZytFT0mO

I must remind you also, this is a spoiler

[north relic]

Owlel is a solved game it’s just luck

no cope

[sullen berry]

I wish I could tell you this was from someone here but it's not, feels bad if you were Hawk or ultraviolet

[north relic]

Use the role box

Challenge very hard

Getting the team first guess should be 4 max if played right

[sullen berry]

masaa is so iconic

no one dare guess that he left Atlanta or something

[north relic]

I can understand the masaa guess

[frosty patrol]

6 max*

you can get mega unlucky

[north relic]

If it’s reign it’s 4 max

[frosty patrol]

yes

[north relic]

Dps wrong

Tank wrong

Lose 50-50 support

Get 4

[frosty patrol]

5 mac

[north relic]

How is it 5 max

[frosty patrol]

not max

mac

5 big mac

[north relic]

I’m not American what’s a Big Mac

[worn falcon]

Jmac

[frosty patrol]

jmac but fat

[north relic]

I’ve decided I’m becoming a doomfist player in ow2

[worn falcon]

https://www.ggrecon.com/articles/sources-overwatch-2-characters-abilities-overwatch-2-alpha/

dont

Become orisa player instead

[north relic]

Orisa jousts

Is the livestream talking about the reworks

[worn falcon]

no livestream yet

[north relic]

Ik

But is that the topic

[worn falcon]

just impressions and goals for the next patch and such

anyone watched the TN Blast?

[next mesa]

who the hell is lucas anderson

[willow tartan]

the guy that astralis signed and then benched

mr bubski

[sullen berry]

Orisa wants to stab everyone, and is happy to take Doom's knockback bonus too

she better come equipped with a double-sided saber looking blade

[next mesa]

fuck

did you guys see the new orisa's abilities

we should've kept gesture fuck

[willow tartan]

fate MVP run

[next mesa]

its a brand new hero

its literally

not orisa

throw out what u know about previous orisa players

[plush grail]

what

is the stream up

[worn falcon]

scroll up you fool

[balmy wolf]

Supercharger is gone

And she can joust

Is all I know

[next mesa]

live stream in about

an hour and 15 minutes

[hot onyx]

Full orisa rework

Thank goodness

[worn falcon]

Smurf about to become best tank

[hot onyx]

If orisa is a completely different hero then Fury could decide to have a good day

[plush grail]

no

he can not

[hot onyx]

I mean he was the better orisa in the 2019 playoffs

Than Gesture

Damn tank looks like it would be so much fun in 6v6

[plush grail]

sounds very unfun to play against

[hot onyx]

Can’t wait for the Carpe sojurn MN3 ashe

[worn falcon]

All the new heroes where like this, then they start to tone down when they have the data.

[willow tartan]

its the best way to balance things

[plush grail]

factual

overwatch new heroes are always busted

[willow tartan]

busted = more people play it = more dataset to balance quicker + it also means that players would have played it and therefore some will continue to stick with it even after nerf

[hot onyx]

Day one echo and brig

[willow tartan]

as opposed to underbuffing something and then it gets never played

and you dont know how to buff it cause nobody play it

and then when you buff it nobody play it anyway

[plush grail]

who cares, i fuck on cree

[hot onyx]

Isn’t sojurn going to render soldier 76 useless?

[cedar oasis]

no

[north relic]

Already is

Also sojourn will play more like cass/Ashe rather than soldier

Imo

[worn falcon]

is a mix tho

[north relic]

Yea

[worn falcon]

Soldier/Ashe

[north relic]

Soldier is mostly off angles sojourn looks more like a cass play style

[willow tartan]

i think sojourn will play like big dick gamer (when diem is playing her because he is getting signed)

[north relic]

kellan orisa god

Trust

[worn falcon]

Sparple new Dallas tank.

[north relic]

Imagine running sparkle tank when you have fearless Hanbin

[hot onyx]

https://youtu.be/hNCOS6Ou36I no they don’t

[twin bloom]

Boston is so overrated

By the community

Lmao

[hot onyx]

Rare good take

[twin bloom]

Just the same core that lost 3-0 to titans

And first team to lose to mayhem in months

[hot onyx]

Half of that same core*

Along side a hitscan that wouldn’t be top 5 in Contenders kr

[twin bloom]

And lost to incredibly mid defiant

3-0

[hot onyx]

A main tank whose only good hero is an off tank

[twin bloom]

And wen't to map 5 vs hybrid spitfire

[hot onyx]

And the (arguably) most toxic korean flex support in the league

Alongside a washed up Striker is a recipe for disaster

Every single player on Boston is the definition of “yeah they’re servicable as long as they’re on a decent team”

And Boston ain’t a decent team

#20

[cedar oasis]

boston better then fusion

[twin bloom]

Fusion just have better dps

And ot

[hot onyx]

And support*

[cedar oasis]

no

[hot onyx]

FiXa off ping > Faith

[cedar oasis]

dps are the same

[twin bloom]

No they aren't

Lol

Mn3 relevant

Hs

[cedar oasis]

carpe and striker both washed

[hot onyx]

You said MN3 and Zest are whomegaluls

[twin bloom]

Carpe is not as washed as striker

[hot onyx]

Carpe is not washed*

Man was at least 8th in hitscan last season

[twin bloom]

Zest and valentine both irrelevant but zest better

[hot onyx]

With Mano the team killer

And EQO sombra

That’s gotta count for something

[hot onyx]

Zest is equal to Although, Valentine is equal to Architect

Also Aimgod has the lack of toxicity bonus

At least I believe he does, unless you count the time he pulled the cutthroat sign after beating Paris in the 2020 playoffs

[cedar oasis]

fusion suck

too bad hotba killed the team

sad

[hot onyx]

They do, but they’re not worse than a bottom 3 team

[cedar oasis]

ok fixa aimgod

[hot onyx]

Pull up Manos ball statistics

[cedar oasis]

fury

[hot onyx]

And see if you’re still calling Hotba the team killer

[cedar oasis]

he is gonna kill toronto

just wait

[hot onyx]

He isn’t gonna get playtime

MuZe too good

Plus Hotba was above average last season

Mano was not

Hotba is only gonna get better

[cedar oasis]

no

he was 11th

not above average

[hot onyx]

And where was Mano statistically?

[cedar oasis]

12th

or 14th

both were trash

[hot onyx]

Pull up the stats?

I wanna see if this is overall or just for each specific tank role

[cedar oasis]

look it up

[hot onyx]

Don’t filter players by tank, worst mistake of my life

Can’t find it, all it’s saying is how often they played as said hero

[willow tartan]

Is the stream waiting room up yet?

[hot onyx]

I wanna see if Manos ball stats are really bottom 5

[willow tartan]

I'll check.

Mano's ball is 8th in final blows/10 (out of 16)
13th in Elims/10
13th in Damage/10
11th in Env kills/10
11th in Solo kills/10
3rd in least deaths/10

Low, but not bottom five.

[cedar oasis]

11th id say

[hot onyx]

out of 16

plus 3rd least deaths per 10 is a lot worse than it sounds

remember mag

[willow tartan]

Sure but if you want to be objective with stats then you need to be consistent.

And if we are being objective with stats, he averages out to be not bottom 5.

[north relic]

Ball is not about stats (doesn’t mean Mano was good)

[willow tartan]

(we are talking about pure stats)

[north relic]

Is the stream in ten min?

[willow tartan]

Yes

[north relic]

Wait is it twitch only

[worn falcon]

so far yes

[plush grail]

legit

if we dont get 1 new hero in this stream

im gonna go insane

[worn falcon]

We don't, the reveal gonna be Sojourn and "soonish" hero for later betas

[willow tartan]

wait what channel is it on?

[plush grail]

https://www.twitch.tv/playoverwatch

twitch

[plush grail]

10k viewers about to be dissapointed

[willow tartan]

wtf stream late

[plush grail]

who the fuck is this

[willow tartan]

that's a fucking statue

[plush grail]

i know dumbass

but still

[willow tartan]

its just a random statue

some italian guy

[plush grail]

let me cope

[willow tartan]

probably fought in the omnic war

[plush grail]

i want new shit

[cedar oasis]

!drops

[plush grail]

vc?

[willow tartan]

!drops !drops !drops !drops

[cedar oasis]

ow2 free?

[twilit oriole]

40 seconds

20 secs

[cedar oasis]

5 sec

[willow tartan]

[twilit oriole]

10 seconds

[next mesa]

0 seconds

[cedar oasis]

-10sec

[plush grail]

this is pre-recorded right

[cedar oasis]

no?

[willow tartan]

geoff aaron and jon in the same room

[plush grail]

it probably is

[north relic]

its jspec

ive missed him

[willow tartan]

he needs to fix his specs

[north relic]

he just did

[twilit oriole]

Can someone TLDR the stream later

[plush grail]

tldr im a chad

[north relic]

orisa has a javelin

[cedar oasis]

i hate the chat

"stare" wtf is that

[willow tartan]

imagine reading twitch chat

[north relic]

they just speaking and staring at us without saying anything

[willow tartan]

fullscreen option

[north relic]

i dont use fullscreen so i switch to discord faster

[willow tartan]

second monitor

[north relic]

31k viewers

i dont use twitch much is that good

[willow tartan]

ow averages like 15k views lol

as a whole category

[plush grail]

31k is like half xqc views

[north relic]

how much % is super

[worn falcon]

tldr paris goes down

[willow tartan]

super is like 5k

[plush grail]

4'11*

[willow tartan]

3-5 i think

depends

[north relic]

im ngl rn they are background noise but its fine

[next mesa]

its good

[willow tartan]

look at aaron's setup lol

no sound dampening

[lost thicket]

SHD is probably still the same or maybe slightly worse lmao, two less experienced coaches, one new coach and eh Flex support to warm the bed with WhoRU

[plush grail]

might be rude but i legit do not give a single fuck about this talking, show me some new shit

[next mesa]

xqc is twitch's biggest streamer

half of that is pretty good

[cedar oasis]

agreed

[lost thicket]

Even if they shit the bed and OW2 is not friendly to Fate/Void as solo tanks the worse I could see them is top 5

[willow tartan]

i like hearing insight on how the development team functions

helps put things into perspective

[lost thicket]

Same

[north relic]

bro its like 5 minutes of talking

[lost thicket]

Very nice

[plush grail]

i do not care, i am a caveman i just want shoot things

[next mesa]

dont be too impatient

[hot onyx]

guns weren't invented in caveman times

[lost thicket]

You listen to gunna

[hot onyx]

numbskull

[willow tartan]

unga bunga bang bang

[plush grail]

PLEASE SHOW ME NEW STUFF STOP TLAKING

[willow tartan]

so why is soe here again

i feel like she has nothing to do with this

[plush grail]

to ask questions

[north relic]

she is asking the questions

[lost thicket]

Me, all the time

[gusty rampart]

Because Overwatch League feedback is coming I think

[north relic]

probably the narrator during footage also

[plush grail]

its more easy if they do a interview, a presentation type thing would go horrible

[gusty rampart]

And she also has a huge place in the Overwatch community

[willow tartan]

they should do a QnA with twitch donos

[gusty rampart]

You're dumb

[willow tartan]

it would be funny

and content

[gusty rampart]

It would

But awful idea

[north relic]

"coming soon" and "i cannot tell you" are the only 2 responses

[willow tartan]

what are the questions?

[north relic]

i forgor

[gusty rampart]

They would have to read a million "borpaCum"s out loud

[plush grail]

legit just say ''we're gonna communicate more, we're improving the team'' AND SHUT UP

[gusty rampart]

They need to shut the fuck up VERY soon

[willow tartan]

"overwatch dev team should communicate more"

shut the fuck up
overwatch community

[plush grail]

saying ''we have a good team'' does not convince a caveman like me

[north relic]

you guys are so fucking stupid you cant listen for 10 minutes of talking no wonder why you can only read picture books

[earnest leaf]

so it is live

[willow tartan]

it literally said at the start

[plush grail]

i read picture books with some text

[willow tartan]

LIVESTREAM

[cedar oasis]

i have a headache and i can not be bothered to keep listining

[willow tartan]

plastered in big text

[plush grail]

uvalo i will tldr it for u

[cedar oasis]

thanks babe

[willow tartan]

see now

says it right on the tin

[plush grail]

tldr not relevant talking

[north relic]

jspec needs new glasses

they keep getting tilted

[willow tartan]

maybe his face is tilted

[plush grail]

mans has fucking airpods

what a chad

[north relic]

aaron and soe arent even wearing headphones

[willow tartan]

Aaron has Nvidia Broadcast so its fine

[plush grail]

man reinforce and jimmy look weird

[gusty rampart]

Shut up Aaron

Announce battle pass

NOW

[north relic]

sadge

[next mesa]

speakers

[north relic]

yea

i just realized xqc has double viewers

and the topic is LoL

[earnest leaf]

yes

[lost thicket]

Geoff is a actual clown

[willow tartan]

xqc can stream literally anything and get 60k viewers

[earnest leaf]

xqc has 70k+ viewers on anything he does

he could unironically say nothing and paint a wall and get 100k viewers

[willow tartan]

it would be more notable than usual

[north relic]

are they talking about player jake?

[willow tartan]

coach player caster jake

[lost thicket]

Some of you people are actual monkeys

I swear

[willow tartan]

slow to catch on i see

[north relic]

bro wtf

his little brother has the alpha

[willow tartan]

[twilit oriole]

Anything important said yet?

[north relic]

his little brother has the alpha

[willow tartan]

jake is good at OW2

[north relic]

here a screenshot for an easy tldr

if you watch the stream you get the beta

[willow tartan]

flattering image

[plush grail]

[north relic]

where his teeth

[willow tartan]

L console

[north relic]

L console players

[plush grail]

HAHAHAH

IMAGINE WAITING 2 YEARS FOR OW2

[willow tartan]

get rolled

[plush grail]

ONLY TO BE EXCLUDED FROM THE FUCKING BETA

OW CONSOLE PLAYERS IN SHAMBLES

[willow tartan]

the 2 people that play on console

darn i am so heartbroken that i cant play ow2 on my nintendo switch

[plush grail]

legit just 10 minutes of talking about the closed alpha we're not allowed to play or see

what is this

[plush grail]

''we pushed a big patch today''

who fucking cares

[willow tartan]

i do

[north relic]

cope

[worn falcon]

I do care about the info

[willow tartan]

ian just has 3 brain cell

[worn falcon]

thats generous for Ian

[north relic]

they are talking about how supports are easy kills

[trail perch]

I care

.

[north relic]

brig meta for another 6 years

[willow tartan]

1 for overwatch, 1 for paris and 1 for girlfriend

[trail perch]

YESSSSSS

[plush grail]

based

[trail perch]

I WANT MORE BRIG

[willow tartan]

moira/lucio

[trail perch]

Brig unironically is the best character for overwatch ppl just dont want to admit it

[worn falcon]

Skewed dominating

[willow tartan]

except brig has no bash

[trail perch]

Because she is the perfect balance of skill and brain

[willow tartan]

i mean no cc

[frosty patrol]

skill is brain

[trail perch]

Aim for whipshot

[frosty patrol]

wdym

[trail perch]

No i mean like mechanics

[frosty patrol]

aim is brain too

[north relic]

i mean yea but its not fun to play or againist

[worn falcon]

Essenza alive

[trail perch]

I love playing brig

Yep im back

Ive been dead for a bit

but im alive

[willow tartan]

go back to your cave mr. "washington will make finals"

[trail perch]

and i dont even have regular anymore

[frosty patrol]

your brain sends signals to your neurons to aim

[trail perch]

THIS YEAR FS!!!

[frosty patrol]

brain = aim

[trail perch]

Btich fuck off

i dont even know who u are

[worn falcon]

no wash this time

[willow tartan]

dont even imply that you are saying that washington will make grand finals this year

just dont

leave

[worn falcon]

but Toronto

[willow tartan]

never return

[worn falcon]

Toronto for finals

[frosty patrol]

this is what happens when you take a break and miss by far the best new user of 2022

[trail perch]

No i swear they actually might this time guys

[north relic]

nyxl london make grand finals

[trail perch]

decay is really good

[frosty patrol]

very little competition but still

[frosty patrol]

vigilante better

[trail perch]

again who the fuck are you

i cant even roast you

cause idk who you are

[frosty patrol]

likewise

[trail perch]

someone give me a roast

[north relic]

they support justice

[willow tartan]

he thought EU contenders stood for European Union contenders

[north relic]

make fun of that

[frosty patrol]

hunters are my first team

make fun of that

[trail perch]

Oh hell nah this person is sick

Insane

Love them

[frosty patrol]

hunters and justice fan

[trail perch]

Im not even going to roast you

[frosty patrol]

I’m getting tickets to the watch parties

[trail perch]

those are gigachad takes

Anyone who will mindlessly support justice

Is someone i like

[willow tartan]

WIDE WINSTON

[north relic]

decay is overrated

[frosty patrol]

I have supported justice since season 2 stage 2

[trail perch]

pffffff

ok nvm

ur just masocistic

lmao

[frosty patrol]

yes

[north relic]

decay is overrated

[trail perch]

stop.

stop.

my brain cant handle ur shitty takes

[willow tartan]

decay isnt bad there's just many many more dps better than him

[trail perch]

lies

rn

name 10

dps players

better than decay

[worn falcon]

Ans

[trail perch]

Nope

[worn falcon]

Sparple

[trail perch]

try again next time

[worn falcon]

Edison

Kevster

[trail perch]

eww

lies

[worn falcon]

Onigod

[trail perch]

@plush grail ???

[worn falcon]

Mr. Logix

[trail perch]

cuyo i thought u were smart

[frosty patrol]

no

[frosty patrol]

no

[willow tartan]

leave kevster lip yaki fleta pelican proper mn3 shy carpe

[frosty patrol]

no

[trail perch]

literally no

not carpe

[earnest leaf]

leave/fleta/lip/pelican/ans/striker/kevster/profit/fits/yaki

[trail perch]

not mn3

not fits

not ans

[frosty patrol]

not carpe or fleta

[trail perch]

prob not fleta

[willow tartan]

wym decay plays like 2 heroes good

[earnest leaf]

You want a spicy take

[frosty patrol]

not fits or ans either

[trail perch]

Crusty jr is megabrain

I like this guy

[earnest leaf]

Decay is equal to carpe on every hero but tracer where decay is a bit better

[trail perch]

genji hanzo?

decay better

[worn falcon]

Decay is like carpe except he feeds

[trail perch]

reaper decay better

[earnest leaf]

when has decay even played genji

[trail perch]

often

[next mesa]

fits is better than decay

[trail perch]

literally often

[willow tartan]

doom is a tnak con firmd

[north relic]

doom tank confirmed

[frosty patrol]

carpe is not at decay’s level

[next mesa]

on every hero except tracer

[frosty patrol]

carpe is low a

[trail perch]

levy go back to lunatic hai jail

[frosty patrol]

decay is mid-high a

[trail perch]

Nah decay is low S

[worn falcon]

right, carpe is much better than decay

[next mesa]

decay is nowhere near low S

he's A at best

[earnest leaf]

Decay is a tracer player with a decent hero pool that got incredibly overrated because he shit on shit teams in s3

[next mesa]

decay is an overrated shitter

[earnest leaf]

No one cares he rolled houston on widow

[trail perch]

no fuck off

[earnest leaf]

or beat mid tier teams in a mickey mouse meta on an off role

[frosty patrol]

decay is high A, not S

be realistic

[north relic]

bro is sparkle actually gonna play tank

[willow tartan]

no

[frosty patrol]

S is saved for apr1ta leave and vigilante

[trail perch]

Low S is literally the same as high A

[willow tartan]

just bc the hero is a tank

doesnt mean sparkle has the tank brain

to do it

[trail perch]

its like A- vs B+

[north relic]

sparkle is the best doomfist though

[willow tartan]

LIP will be better doomtank

watch

[worn falcon]

sparple > fearless

[north relic]

fearless or hanbin dont have the doomfist brain either

[frosty patrol]

sparkle doom zarya orisa 3tp

[willow tartan]

no because there is no doomfist brain

because CC is out of the game remember

its a complete different hero

[next mesa]

A- is much better than B+

also

[frosty patrol]

wrong

stuns are

[next mesa]

decay isnt even high A

[trail perch]

canada cringe

[frosty patrol]

not cc

[worn falcon]

smurf about becoming best orisa

[next mesa]

he's low A at best

[willow tartan]

you know whjat i mean

doomfist wont be the same

[next mesa]

decay so overrated theres like 10 hitscans better than him

[frosty patrol]

we have seen sparkle tank before

in s3 he fucked on zarya one time

[frosty patrol]

wrong

[trail perch]

"As many of them to the tank role"

MORE DPS TO TANK

[next mesa]

you're wrong

unfortunately

[trail perch]

MY THEORY WAS RIGHT

ABOUT FDPS PLAYERS

PLAYING TANK

[willow tartan]

haha yeah no

if the fdps players play tank then who plays the fdps you fucking mongrel

[trail perch]

THE OTHER DPS PLAYERS

[frosty patrol]

dps better than decay: lip, yaki, profit, leave, apr1ta, proper, mn3, kevster, sparkle, pelican, striker

[trail perch]

Just wait till we see s9mm roll out on Dva

[willow tartan]

most teams have two hitscans and one flex

[frosty patrol]

decay is the 12th best dps in owl

[earnest leaf]

please don't let dps players on tank in owl

[trail perch]

yeah just run double hitscan KekW

[earnest leaf]

outside of zarya

[north relic]

you forgor flora

[trail perch]

Goats go BRRRRRRRRRRR

[frosty patrol]

decay > flora

[willow tartan]

whoru tank incoming

he will win a ring

[north relic]

flora > decay

[trail perch]

*another ring

[frosty patrol]

just like apr1ta > profit

whoru is heavily decorated

[next mesa]

first of all, that's wrong, but let's assume your dumb take is right, 12th best dps doesnt make him high A

[trail perch]

wait wait wait

[willow tartan]

WhoRU is the North Korean general of Overwatch pros

[trail perch]

Who has more dubs

WhoRU

or Hooreg?

[next mesa]

whoru probably

[frosty patrol]

it makes him high A at his position, 5th best hitscan

[next mesa]

he's not the fifth best hitscan

[frosty patrol]

4th or 5th

yes he is

[willow tartan]

whoru by far

[trail perch]

you sure?

[next mesa]

shy, fits, lip, proper, mn3

[trail perch]

Hooreg has an owl title

2 contenders

[willow tartan]

2 apex seasons, 2 contenders seasons, 2 stage titles and a championship

[trail perch]

stage 1

[next mesa]

casually named 5 better than decay

easily better than decay btw

[trail perch]

and an apex title

[next mesa]

because decay is fuckin overrated

[frosty patrol]

proper I didn’t count and also it’s lip leave mn3 striker

[worn falcon]

WhoRu flexing the bench for other season

[north relic]

better hitscan are shy lip mn3 aprita leave

[worn falcon]

and championship

[frosty patrol]

decay > shy and fits

[north relic]

ok add aprita instead then

[willow tartan]

hes gonna get a second championship to complete his 2-2-2-2

just gotta cop world cup

[frosty patrol]

ok 6th

forgot apr1ta for a second

[north relic]

massive L

[frosty patrol]

so like low-mid A

[frosty patrol]

yes

[worn falcon]

Lip > Leave > Onigod > Decay

[willow tartan]

humongous L

[next mesa]

wrong

fits easily better

shy easily better

shy is better than apr1ta at hard hitsan

hitscan

btw

if you disagree you're just stupid sorry

[frosty patrol]

hard hitscan dead role

is what I’m basing this on

[willow tartan]

i think we should all settle our arguments here via torb 1v1

[next mesa]

okay so? talking about hard hitscan you idiot

holy

[north relic]

ok can you go online rn?

[frosty patrol]

we’re talking about hitscan

[next mesa]

yeye

[willow tartan]

so what you're saying is decay is a good dps if half of the dps turn out to be useless

[next mesa]

hitscan

[frosty patrol]

I never said hard hitscan

decay is not a top 6 hard hitscan

I agree

[next mesa]

hard hitscan is 90% of hitscan heroes

you brainlet

[frosty patrol]

yes

[willow tartan]

if hes not a top 6 hitscan and not a top 6 tracer what is he then

[next mesa]

omegalol

he's overrated

[frosty patrol]

soldier tracer reaper symm etc

[willow tartan]

fuck it decay is a decent sym player

there you go

[next mesa]

u ignore hard hitscans but choose to put sym in

hypocrite much?

[worn falcon]

who is big brain sym player?

[frosty patrol]

decay symm reaper tracer informed this decision

[frosty patrol]

sym is a hitscan

[north relic]

april 26 beta is out

easy

[next mesa]

so are actual hard hitscans

[digital cloud]

This place has plummeted down hill

[willow tartan]

EZ clap

[next mesa]

whats ur argument here

???

[frosty patrol]

4/7 hitscans aren’t hard hitscan

[next mesa]

"lets just ignore cree ashe widow"

[willow tartan]

levy

[next mesa]

"but lets emphasize on sym"

🤡 🤡

[willow tartan]

he's just saying that decay is good on sym reaper

that's all

[frosty patrol]

I’m just counting hitscans and noticing 4 of them aren’t hard hitscan

[north relic]

decent livestream

[frosty patrol]

out of 7

[willow tartan]

so what we got out of that is

[next mesa]

the best symm last year was also sparkle

[willow tartan]

nah

[frosty patrol]

decay was up there tbh

[north relic]

i love how people are screaming about how much of a waste of time this was and that it was useless

[willow tartan]

decay has better raw mechanics than sparkle on the sym

[north relic]

but any communication is great

[next mesa]

sparkle is smarter than decay will ever be

tbh

[willow tartan]

decay was smart enough to stop playing overwatch for a season so that's more brains than sparkle has ever shown

[frosty patrol]

decay is in mental jail, he’s a top 8 dps if he sees a therapist

[gusty rampart]

Decay is ass

[north relic]

sparkles brain is fuckign massive like how tf do you force doom in owl and make it actually work

[next mesa]

he's 900 iq

[last nimbus]

crazy

april 26th

[worn falcon]

sparple gonna bench Fearless/Hanbin

[next mesa]

fr fr

that'd be so fun tbh

[frosty patrol]

if the justice mandate decay get therapy he’s really really really good

[worn falcon]

Doha, Guriyo and Edison on DPS

[willow tartan]

by being better than the rest of the competition its that simple

[next mesa]

he's also really really overrated now

[willow tartan]

dallas fuel was just far ahead of NA at that point

[next mesa]

😄

[north relic]

he is better because of his omega IQ

[willow tartan]

also did it work

[north relic]

on doom

[willow tartan]

when they lost to atlanta

in the playoffs

[next mesa]

he didnt play doom

should've tbh

would've fucked them up

[willow tartan]

you're right lets blame doha instead

[next mesa]

would've fucked shanghai up

[willow tartan]

sparkle so good dps

[next mesa]

until whoru pulls up

they just have a doom 1v1

for map 7

poggers

[cedar oasis]

whoru sucks

L

[willow tartan]

dont disrespect the overwatch GOAT

[twin bloom]

That sounds terrible

[digital cloud]

Doom as a tank is dumb

[frosty patrol]

whoru is a top 5 flex dps in some metas

tbh

[digital cloud]

His identity makes the most sense as a dps

[willow tartan]

i mean he is a big strong man that likes to punch things

we already have a big strong man that likes to swing hammer at things

and big strong woman that likes to beam things

[next mesa]

role had to be changed because his identity was cc

[digital cloud]

It isn’t a matter of size, it is that he is a punch murder guy

[willow tartan]

or since tanks are keeping cc

[digital cloud]

No tank has anywhere near his burst potential barring maybe hog, and we all know hog is shit

[willow tartan]

woah when did they add this to match report

[next mesa]

ur assuming that his kits will be the same

when it probably wont

[willow tartan]

legit have never seen that before

[next mesa]

seoul easy reverse sweeps baby

[digital cloud]

I am sure it won’t be, which is why I think it is a bad idea

His core design is already iconic

[next mesa]

its also bad for 5v5

[willow tartan]

sad theres no stat showing which team has been reverse swept the most

[digital cloud]

5v5 is already bad, no reason to care about that little detail

Hell, people still have faith in blizzard to make solo hog work for 5v5

[willow tartan]

apparently the shanghai dragons have the most 3-0 match wins total in OWL

[next mesa]

not surprised

[digital cloud]

Not like the community has hated blizzard’s slapdash attempts to balance the game up to this point

Mei as a tank makes some sense, though

Just fiddle with her damage and health some

[next mesa]

forget everything u know about 6v6 and most heroes

especially tanks

[willow tartan]

theres only ever been one 8 map game in OWL